When did /jp/ realize AKB48 members were extremely ugly?

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Anonymous Thu Feb 28 22:44:41 2013 No.10550120 [DELETED]

When did /jp/ realize AKB48 members were extremely ugly?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 22:51:10 2013 No.10550145 just now thx opie

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 22:57:10 2013 No.10550167 Mayuyu is extremely cute enough to save the whole group (but I noticed AKB has so many fat girls why are they idols?)

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 22:59:55 2013 No.10550177 >>10550120 When you compare them to the girls in Girls Generation (SNSD), the girls in AKB are Fugly x2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYP_3QEb5Yk

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:00:40 2013 No.10550183 File: 1.61 MB, 3000x2211, 1344141473236.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10550177 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYP_3QEb5Yk

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:01:26 2013 No.10550186 i rike tomomi itano but she's retiring from the group then i will rike no one in akb

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:02:40 2013 No.10550194 >>10550183 Looks like there are 3 of them cloned 3 times each.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:05:40 2013 No.10550207 File: 2.92 MB, 405x372, oie_0_0_0_0_0_275148V5C11ueI.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there girl in AKB hotter than any girl in Girls Generation (SNSD)? Easy Mode : Hyoyeon Hard Mode : Yoona or Taeeon Gif related

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:06:10 2013 No.10550211 >>10550207 LOL @ the short little trolls standing next to the literal goddesses

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:07:55 2013 No.10550220 File: 71 KB, 520x292, girls-generation-towering-heights-over-japanese.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10550207

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:15:11 2013 No.10550255 >>10550220 This is why snsd is so successful compared vs Japanese groups. Tall, not pedo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:15:27 2013 No.10550257 >>10550207 How short are they? Yuri probably about 5'4-5'6 and they are still way shorter than her fuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:17:40 2013 No.10550267 >>10550255 In Korea people consider SNSD a pedo baiting group and their fanbase is mostly little girls, old men, and otaku (I didn't even know Koreans used this word until recently)

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:23:10 2013 No.10550295 >>10550267 I mean successful in the west. And besides that, you're making things up. They are completely mainstream in Korea, equivalent of US pop singers.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:28:41 2013 No.10550325
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>>10550267
>a pedo baiting group

Stop trying to make Girls Generation (SNSD) into the Korean AKB48 when it isnt even close.

1) SNSD = Wholesome family friendly girls that are omnipresent in all aspects of the Korean entertainment industry.

2) AKB48 = Only appeals to otaku and wota. The entire Japanese entertainment industry are ashamed of their 'success'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBxW22JLUmg

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:28:56 2013 No.10550328 >>10550207 >>10550220 When that happened I actually looked up their heights, SNSD is like 3cm taller than AKB senbatsu. Takamina and Yuko being in front just thows it all off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:32:11 2013 No.10550346 >>10550325 AKB48 is listened to by everyday people in Japan. Just not as much by the west outside of weeaboo culture. (Too pedo) They have a very large TV presence. Not as big as SNSD but they're still quite popular with regular folks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:34:41 2013 No.10550363 >>10550325 Im not trying to say that im just saying what people on forums say Taeyeon even got mad at someone for calling Sone otaku.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:36:25 2013 No.10550373 most oriental girls are ugly

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:38:41 2013 No.10550382 >>10550373 Oriental is not a word for people anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:39:55 2013 No.10550388 >>10550382 that's the term my grandma taught me

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:40:10 2013 No.10550390
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>>10550346
Korea celebrates Girls Generation/SNSD's 'success'. Here is Seohyun - one of the members of Girls Generation - with Ban-Ki Moon (Secretary General of the UN)

SNSD regularly gets appointed by the government of Korea as tourism ambassadors and Korea used SNSD in the tourism advertisements/brochures.

Although AKB48 is the #1 music act in Japan as measured by sales, nothing like that happens with them.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:44:10 2013 No.10550400

>>10550390
That's a function of South Korea's putting a huge focus on promoting its media internationally. Sure, SNSD is wildly more popular than AKB worldwide, but AKB shows up on more domestic TV. Japan does have that half-assed Cool Japan movement, but it's really not comparable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:46:25 2013 No.10550406 >>10550400 >Cool Japan I wish they would focus more on fashion or music instead of otaku culture.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 23:54:10 2013 No.10550419

>>10550400
If AKB48 was a family-friendly music act, you dont think Japan would use them and promote them? But they arent and AKB48 sells sex. I have absolutely no problem with this but that is their image.

And that is why the Japanese are wary of them. I didnt see the same apprehension when girl groups like Morning Musume were popular.

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 00:15:26 2013 No.10550477

>>10550419
SNSD is no less sex centric than AKB48. It's just that AKB48 looks like little girls and dress in a way that gives pedo impressions in the west. Look at >>10550220 even, White dominated clothing (maidenly) vs Black (sluts that the American dog wants to fuck). Can be seen in their videos even more. It's kind of like, that's why they can send them around, it's acceptable by our standards, kinda like Marilyn Monroe and JFK. We think grown sluts are cool in the West.

Japan has a strong as fuck economy anyway. They don't give two shits about promoting their entertainment industry outside the country. They also have a very different culture from Korea when it comes to business and tourism, and are more isolationist in both. For instance, their cell phone industries kept the phones closed off from the rest of the world for years (which has actually left them behind...) vs Samsung taking over the industry from Korea. Or half their video game developers refusing to develop for Xbox, dogmatically supporting Sony. Cool Japan is an afterthought from the mind of some bureaucrat that isn't getting support from anyone major.

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 00:31:55 2013 No.10550529
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>>10550477
>SNSD is no less sex centric than AKB48.
I dont know how if you watched any of SNSD's Music Videos and AKB48;s MV, anybody can make this statement. It simply isnt true.

>(sluts that the American dog wants to fuck)
Ignoring the fact that Girls Generation/SNSD is extremely popular in Japan and Asia. Girls Generation was #7 in Japan for all music artists in music sales in Japan according to Oricon (see chart) with $46 Million in 2012. Of course AKB48 was #1.

>They don't give two shits about promoting their entertainment industry
This is true.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 00:36:25 2013 No.10550542 >AKB48 not family friendly >forgetting they made a song for Disney for a family movie

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 00:51:26 2013 No.10550580
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>>10550477
Girls Generation debuted in Japan in 2010 and they have carried their popularity in Korea over to Japan.

In fact SNSD are having their 2nd Japanese Tour right now with over 20 concert dates and close to 250k to 300k people attending

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Japan_Arena_Tour

Pic from their recent concert at the Saitama Super Arena (with over 25k people) and the vid below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTndUZ8Rot0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 00:55:55 2013 No.10550591 >>10550183 It's kind of amazing to think that each one of those girls has a unique vagina.

Sakura !RAILgUnr8s Fri Mar 1 01:05:10 2013 No.10550620

Do people actually think SNSD is popular in Japan, or is it just koreans that think that? They already peaked and plummeted in Japan. Their sales show that.

First Album released in Japan (2011): 871k units
Second Album released in Japan (2012): 186k units

1st Single: 150k
2nd Single: 205k
3rd Single: 174k
4th Single: 136k
5th Single: 85k
6th Single: 39k

Nobody in Japan gives a shit about SNSD any more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:06:26 2013 No.10550623 >>10550591 it's only a matter of time until they start getting plastic surgery for that too

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:14:40 2013 No.10550646 /3dpd/ when

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:16:55 2013 No.10550649

>>10550419
Japan has countless family-friendly acts that also aren't promoted by the government, but we've been over why that is.

But even if they wanted to it wouldn't matter. What's the point of "an idol you can meet" if you'll never see one of her theater performances? What's the point of having an oshimen if you don't even speak Japanese? It would be a colossal waste of time and money for Tokyo to promote AKB48 abroad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:22:10 2013 No.10550656 Does america have something like >>10550183 or AKB48?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:24:40 2013 No.10550657 >>10550656 >>>/usa/

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:26:40 2013 No.10550661 >>10550656 we used to. asia is always 10 years behind USA when it comes to entertainment

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:34:25 2013 No.10550675
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>>10550620
How isnt SNSD popular in Japan? Or nobody gives a shit about them when :

Girls Generation Revenue (Oricon)
=========
2011) #5 ranking with $56 Million in music sales
2012) #7 ranking with $46 Million in music sales

2 Concert Tours in Japan with this current one being their biggest one with 20 concert dates which if they sold out all venues, they would have close to 300k people attending.

Their 5th single was a remake (Oh!) and their 6th single (Flower Power) was released 1 week before their 2nd album was released. There was no reason for fans to buy a $18 single when a $30 album which included the Flower Power single was going to be on the album.

Not that I am disagreeing with you that interest in kpop is slowing tremendous in Japan (because it is) but just putting some context to the #'s you posted.

>>	Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU Fri Mar 1 01:35:25 2013 No.10550677 File: 283 KB, 500x373, acchan_sasshi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When did shitbutt threads like this not get deleted immediately?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:37:56 2013 No.10550681 >>10550677 Or >>10549472

>>	Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU Fri Mar 1 01:43:56 2013 No.10550697 >>10550681 Yeah, this makes DICK sense, too. I got banned for talking about SNSD in an idol thread a couple months back. Not gonna say it was unjust because I know the official stance on Korean product here, but come on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:44:40 2013 No.10550699 >>10550697 Times charge.

Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU Fri Mar 1 01:49:55 2013 No.10550720

>>10550699
You know, up until >>10549472, I would have been happy to have Korean music allowed in the idol threads, but now I understand why we can't make exceptions.

Because then threads about shitty groups like JYJ who NO ONE on /jp/ give a shit about are created by people who are willfully ignorant of board culture.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:53:55 2013 No.10550731 >>10550720 /mu/ has been designated the official K-pop dumping ground, they'll find their way there eventually.

Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU Fri Mar 1 02:00:41 2013 No.10550739

>>10550731
Yeah, but those threads don't last on /mu/, and really, as long as they're IDOL units, I think they should be considered otaku culture.

K-pop doesn't cater to the otaku as much as their Japanese counterparts, though, so that's probably where the distinction is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 02:31:44 2013 No.10550797 >>10550675 who cares about them

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 02:34:10 2013 No.10550802 >>10550797 >who cares about them the Japanese people buying their albums/singles and going to their concerts

Sakura !RAILgUnr8s Fri Mar 1 02:36:40 2013 No.10550812

>>10550675
>How isn't SNSD popular in Japan
The sales speak for themselves dude.

>There was no reason for fans to buy a $18 single when a $30 album which included the Flower Power single was going to be on the album.
But it's not like the album sold well either. 186k for their second album when their first was 871k. That is a sales decline of like 460%. If that isn't plummeting popularity I don't know what is. You can spin it however you want. They've already reached their peak and have been declining every release.

>2 Concert Tours in Japan with this current one being their biggest one with 20 concert dates which if they sold out all venues, they would have close to 300k people attending.
Why do you think they are doing this tour? To try to make up some of that loss obviously. And considering a lot of those venues have capacities of like, 5~10k seats, I should hope they sell out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 02:36:40 2013 No.10550813 >>10550802 yeah sure, no one cares about them, corean dog

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 02:43:40 2013 No.10550827 File: 47 KB, 600x561, tumblr_m75odyowTH1r8k6qzo1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10550120 Other than Yuko and Mayu I completely agree. HTK48 has a lot more cuter girls

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 02:48:25 2013 No.10550844 Japan has a broader spectrum of crap to draw on Korea has... K-pop

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 03:00:40 2013 No.10550860

>>10550812
>The sales speak for themselves dude.
Being #5 and #7 in total sales for all music artists in 2011 and 2012 isnt popular?

>186k for their second album when their first was 871k.
That 871k album has charted for 1.8 years (released May 2011) now and also includes a repackage album which included 'Time Machine'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Machine_(Girls%27_Generation_song)
Before the repackage album, the sales of their 1st Japanese album was at around 500k. Again not disagreeing that the sales of their 2nd album will come in much lower but just giving some context to your comparisons.

>Why do you think they are doing this tour?
To make money. I dont know what 'loss' you are talking about.

>And considering a lot of those venues have capacities of like, 5~10k seats
And some venues have capacities of over 25k like the Saitama Super Arena. Still doesnt change that if all the venues sellout for those 20 concerts would equal close to 300,000 people.

Here is my problem with you - you said SNSD isnt popular in Japan even with the sale numbers showing them in the TOP 10 in sales in Japan for the last 2 years. You can say SNSD's popularity is declining but to say they were never popular or arent popular is just stupidity.

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 03:03:10 2013 No.10550868 [DELETED]

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>>10550120
>When did /jp/ realize AKB48 members were extremely ugly?

As a contrast : Why is Girls Generation so beautiful but the girls in AKB48 dont match that standard?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pA_Tou-DPI

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 03:08:40 2013 No.10550880 >>10550868 Plastic surgery

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 03:11:40 2013 No.10550884 [DELETED]

>>10550880
Please don't bully SNSD have been watched from when they 10-12 and people would notice the change (Though Jessica's past photo does get posted a lot it's just her without makeup) I actually think if AKB got rid of the fat girls and learned how to doll up they would be just as pretty.

Sakura !RAILgUnr8s Fri Mar 1 03:19:05 2013 No.10550884,1 [INTERNAL]

>>10550860
>Being #5 and #7 in total sales for all music artists in 2011 and 2012 isnt popular?
It isn't really relevant when we are talking about current popularity.
Saying they were #5 in 2011? Great. All that means is they were relatively popularity in 2011.
#7 in 2012? That's mostly thanks to the first half of 2012, because their first album was still selling. If you want to use sales numbers to determine popularity, then use their most recent releases, and you see the obvious trend.
What number do you think they will be at for this year? Significantly lower than 2012 going by their recent numbers.

>That 871k album has charted for 1.8 years (released May 2011)
Cool. It still sold 4x in its first month what their latest album did in its first month. I don't need any "context" to know their latest album sold awfully. If the latest AKB release sold 4x less than the previous one, people would be declaring AKB dead. I don't see why SNSD would be any different.

>And some venues have capacities of over 25k like the Saitama Super Arena.
You mean only that venue.

>Still doesnt change that if all the venues sellout for those 20 concerts would equal close to 300,000 people.
Not really. That assumes they are using the max capacity of each venue. For example a venue could have 10k seats, but they could only sell 5k tickets to say it was "sold out". Their first tour, which had 14 venues, sold had a total of 140,000 people. That was when they were more popular too. You honestly think that with 6 more venues they will jump to 300k?

>you said SNSD isnt popular in Japan even with the sale numbers showing them in the TOP 10 in sales in Japan for the last 2 years.
I'm saying they aren't popular now. At least not nearly as popular as stinky koreans seem to try to make them out to be. I see them say "oh SNSD bigger than AKB nida!" or talk about how they are taking Japan by storm, or are the number one group, etc etc etc.

Also Moot for the love of fucking god please fix noko+sage. I can't take it easy like this.

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