Life is suffering. The cause of suffering is desire. To free yourself from suffering, control your desires. To control your desires, follow the eightfold path.

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Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:48:43 2013 No.10548644 [Reply] [Original]

Life is suffering.

The cause of suffering is desire.

To free yourself from suffering, control your desires.

To control your desires, follow the eightfold path.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:49:13 2013 No.10548647 I want to have sex with Namu-san.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:50:12 2013 No.10548656 >>10548653 But OP's pic isn't Kanako.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:50:13 2013 No.10548653 >>10548644 worst and most evil hag

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:50:57 2013 No.10548655 >>10548653 Lies and slander

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:52:57 2013 No.10548665 >>10548644 you can follow the eight inches of muh dik

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:53:27 2013 No.10548666 File: 889 KB, 1424x1000, 1346488096035.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The Noble Eightfold Path Right view Right intention Right speech Right action Right livelihood Right effort Right mindfulness Right concentration

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:54:42 2013 No.10548668 I need help with that

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:55:12 2013 No.10548669 >>10548666 Seriously? I thought you were supposed to shave your head and become a wandering beggar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:57:13 2013 No.10548673 File: 346 KB, 600x777, 19270139_p2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The Five Precepts as taught by Gautama Buddha Do not kill. Do not steal. Do not engage in improper sexual conduct Do not make false statements. Do not drink alcohol.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:57:58 2013 No.10548675 >>10548673 >Do not engage in improper sexual conduct I quit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:58:57 2013 No.10548677 >>10548673 >Do not drink alcohol. Fuck that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:01:42 2013 No.10548684 I already do though

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:02:12 2013 No.10548685 File: 868 KB, 1392x2000, 5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10548677 I think hijiri's the only one who actually listens to that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:02:42 2013 No.10548688 File: 260 KB, 730x810, 1349452609804.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] "At all times I think to myself: How can I cause living beings to gain entry into the unsurpassed way and quickly acquire the body of a Buddha?"

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:03:12 2013 No.10548690 >>10548685 What happens next?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:04:12 2013 No.10548694 >>10548673 >Do not drink alcohol. This is way too hard, sorry Byakuren

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:05:14 2013 No.10548696 life = suffering suffering = desire desire = 0 => life = 0 Why would you want to make your life worthless? At least with suffering it has some meaning to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:05:58 2013 No.10548699 >>10548688 What does sex with Buddha feel like?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:06:42 2013 No.10548700 >>10548690 http://g.e-hentai.org/g/522259/accda0732b

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:08:58 2013 No.10548703 >>10548666 That isn't what eightfold means. Plus 'mindfulness' and 'concentration' are pretty much synonymous, as are 'action' and 'effort'. Not to mention the fact that 'mindfulness' covers 'view' and 'intention' anyway...

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:12:12 2013 No.10548711 >>10548675 Do not engage in improper sexual conduct doesn't mean don't engage in sexual contact

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:14:58 2013 No.10548718
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>>10548696
The idea isn't to remove your desires, but to control them, into more... desirable? desires.

It's still absurd, though, as not all suffering stems from desire, and life isn't only suffering.
Y'all need to work on your philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:14:58 2013 No.10548719 >>10548711 Can I have sex with Namu-san then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:17:57 2013 No.10548726 File: 1.53 MB, 2214x3175, 1316502444915.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] But this lady here says she'll listen to ALL my desires and even teach me how to be immortal. Why should I give up on enjoying life?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:18:42 2013 No.10548728 >>10548726 Can I have sex with Miko then?

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:18:57 2013 No.10548731

>>10548673
>Do not drink alcohol
This one seems a bit specific.

Out of all the drugs in existence, both naturally occurring and synthesised, or even those created by the human body, why ethanol specifically?

Ethanol is also commonly found in most fruits such as apples. Does that mean it is considered taboo to consume those too?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:20:12 2013 No.10548733 >>10548728 No you can't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:20:13 2013 No.10548735 File: 247 KB, 997x977, 1315323887994.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10548728 FUCK YEAH YOU CAN. And after that we can go snow boarding with Futo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:20:42 2013 No.10548737 >>10548731 I think it can be interpreted to mean that one should have any of things in such quantities that they impair one's ability to reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:20:58 2013 No.10548738 >>10548733 >>10548735 Well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:22:42 2013 No.10548744 >>10548728 Mikos are celibate, so no, you can't have sex with a miko unless you marry one after they retire.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:22:57 2013 No.10548745 >>10548728 Miko's not that lewd. >>10548719 If you can get into a relationship with her, then I don't see why not.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:23:12 2013 No.10548746

That is true OP, I have heard the quote "desire is the root of all suffering". If you had no care, not even for your own pain. Would you feel much misery at all? Sadly were just human, physical pain can destroy us. You can enter states of that purity through meditation though or in tastes of it through psychedelics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:23:12 2013 No.10548747 >>10548744 I can wait!

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:25:27 2013 No.10548752
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>>10548644

your Buddhist Nirvana is nothing but a desire for death! I embrace life, and all the suffering that comes with it, because life is also filled with beauty and love.
Grow up buddhists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:26:12 2013 No.10548756 >>10548728 Stop trying to sexualize Miko, /jp/. I'm warning you, i won't hesitate to kill you if i must. I've killed people before.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:29:12 2013 No.10548760 File: 749 KB, 891x563, 1355305169898.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10548752 >Tells us to grow up >Post implies hedonism Ha.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:29:57 2013 No.10548761 >>10548644 But that's wrong. Everybody knows that life is just a simulated criminal reform program. I hope you are behaving yourselves /jp/, because when you wake up from the simulation, you might not get a second chance.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:32:12 2013 No.10548764

>>10548746
>"desire is the root of all suffering"
Who are you quoting?

In all seriousness, though, that straight up isn't true. If someone were to, I dunno, punch you in the gut right now, that'd be suffering for you - or if not for you, for most people - but not because of any desire of your own, simply because you just got punched in the gut and that's a painful experience.

Not only that, having no desires at all could in itself lead to misery, as it would cause intense boredom and stagnation.

Thirdly, pain can't destroy a person on its own, as it is psychological and does no lethal damage in and of itself.

Apathy isn't a virtue. Not caring about things just makes your life empty and lonely.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:32:42 2013 No.10548765 File: 152 KB, 700x1303, a0e57417d4bccd93f2970b3b9bf454d4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Whats with all this Theravada bullshit? Its Mahayana time!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:32:42 2013 No.10548766 File: 66 KB, 800x1163, saint-oniisan-1163093.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What if there were a manga about Jesus and Buddha being roommates?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:33:12 2013 No.10548771 >>10548765 2lewd Ichirin is a nun, don't sexualize her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:33:57 2013 No.10548770 >>10548765 Can I have sex with her?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:34:42 2013 No.10548773 >>10548770 No, nuns are also celibate, like mikos.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:36:57 2013 No.10548780 >>10548771 Oh, that's Ichirin? Didn't recognize her in that outfit. I want to have sex with her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:36:57 2013 No.10548781 File: 72 KB, 569x626, 1307432972509.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10548771 The Forbidden Fruit is that much more delicious!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:39:57 2013 No.10548786 >>10548781 It's disrespectful to fetishize those who have devoted themselves to celibacy for their religious beliefs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:41:12 2013 No.10548793 >>10548673 I love how it says make false statements instead of lie. It really puts the concepts of bullshit and ignorant speech into an antique perspective.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:46:27 2013 No.10548810

>>10548760

no philosophy other than hedonism makes sense. everyone lives by hedonism, everyone is only seeking to maximize their pleasure in the long run. hedonism doesn't only mean party 24/7 do drugs all the time.
our entire political and economic systems are based on the very premise that people try to maximize pleasure, benefits, happiness, good things in general for them.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:46:42 2013 No.10548812
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>>10548786
But I believe in the Supreme Balance. If they remove themselves from sexuality, I must make them even lewder than normal for equilibrium to be maintained!

Also they are hot!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:50:13 2013 No.10548823 how can you move towards enlightenment when the desire to achieve enlightenment would only lead to suffering

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:53:12 2013 No.10548832 >>10548810 my philosophy is - reality is objective; there is only one "truth" - be rightful in all things - be the person who you are and do what you have to do - seek out utopia and the Nietzschean Ubermensch seems to make sense to me

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>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:57:27 2013 No.10548841 >>10548810 >everyone is only seeking to maximize their pleasure in the long run This may surprise you, but not everyone is a psychopath.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:59:12 2013 No.10548848

>>10548832
Those aren't philosophies of motivation, though. Indeed, other than the first, those aren't even philosophy, and are more along the lines of personal aims as opposed to universal truths.
Further, what, under your ideas, determines rightness? What about the concept of the utopia? Those aren't the basis of a morality. Hedonism is.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:03:28 2013 No.10548871

>>10548848
How is "be rightful" not a moral command? Granted, taken along with the next command it is immediately complex to the point of practical subjectivity; but it's still along the same lines as "Do not make false statements" and "Right mindfulness". The real difference is that, instead of giving a certain axis of morality, it simply states that such a thing exists; that's what the Nietzschean Ubermensch represents.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:05:57 2013 No.10548882 File: 672 KB, 761x1000, 1343410313944.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thankfully, the label "improper" is extremely vague. Loli/shota & oral sex are perfectly fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:09:12 2013 No.10548898 >>10548882 Oral sex is my favorite sex.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:12:12 2013 No.10548913

>>10548871
Though "be rightful" is a moral command (which I don't think I ever said it wasn't), there is nothing in that list to define the rightness. Things like right and wrong are meaningless unless one has a means to define them, which is sorely lacking. "Right mindfulness" falls under the same category; the rightness is subjective. Contesting an ethical philosophical stance with a list which contains no ethical philosophies doesn't work as an argument against the first idea, in this case hedonism being the only logical philosophy; without the defining of a moral stance the concept of rightfulness becomes meaningless.
The idea of not making a "false statement" is objective (assuming we agree that truth and reality are themselves objective), and so that line is in a different category to the other two.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:14:12 2013 No.10548923 >>10548882 So improper sex would be vaginal with adults?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:14:42 2013 No.10548920 File: 98 KB, 400x500, 1351273846979.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10548898 This guy knows what's up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:16:28 2013 No.10548928 >>10548882 There's probably some kind of Buddhist canon law that goes into the specifics, like with Catholicism.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:16:42 2013 No.10548930

>>10548913
>there is nothing in that list to define the rightness.
It's right there at the end, that's what the Nietzschean Ubermensch represents. It's one of the core concepts of his philosophy of the post-scarcity world; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Cbermensch#.C3.9Cbermensch_as_a_goal

The rest of your post has rightfulness being undefined as a given, so I can't respond.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:18:42 2013 No.10548940 >>10548923 Improper vaginal sex could lead to pregnancy, and anal sex could be too gross/messy and it can hurt. I only listed my favourites, not everything that might be allowed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:19:12 2013 No.10548947 >>10548945 >The real difference is that, instead of giving a certain axis of morality, it simply states that such a thing exists; that's what the Nietzschean Ubermensch represents.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:19:27 2013 No.10548945 >>10548871 Just saying "be rightful" doesn't mean anything. What determines rightfulness to you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:20:57 2013 No.10548951 I liked this thread better when it was about having sex with girls.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:29:27 2013 No.10548978

>>10548930
>Zarathustra presents the Übermensch as the creator of new values
>they must be motivated by a love of this world and of life
Love of life is a very broad and vague concept. It gives some obvious morals, such as that killing is wrong, but when it comes to the finer points it isn't clear at all. Is it better to prolong life as long as possible, at the cost of quality of life? Is having life at all the optimal state of any being? That stance, while nice to say, doesn't stand up to examination. To create a moral system, one needs more focus and clarity than "life is great, yaaaay".

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:31:27 2013 No.10548990

>>10548978
To add to this, as I feel it is rather disconnected from my previous arguments; as "love of the world and of life" doesn't work as a practical ethical standpoint, again, the idea of rightness falls into meaninglessness, thereby again causing that list of ideas to be sorely lacking in moral definition.

Also, sorry for forgetting to sage so much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 17:39:57 2013 No.10549013 Rape that bitch

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 20:20:35 2013 No.10549635 >>10548644 How can I free myself from desire if I'm confronted with a babe as bodacious as you? Alas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 17:25:41 2013 No.10552452 I feel like jepi fairly buddhist, and tends to embrace a fair about of the buddhist ideas whether they like it or not. Almost always buddhist threads are long and quite involved, and a lot of people contribute.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 17:30:41 2013 No.10552470 >>10552452 >Almost always buddhist threads are long and quite involved, and a lot of people contribute. >>10548951

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 19:47:17 2013 No.10553031 >>10548699 akward

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 19:52:33 2013 No.10553056 >>10553031 First time awkward or "having sex with your mom" awkward?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 19:57:03 2013 No.10553077 >>10553056 I don't think anyone here is qualified to make that sort of judgement with any sort of conviction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 20:21:18 2013 No.10553177 >>10553056 >>10553077 If someone is into type of guys like Buddha ... nevermind.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 20:23:18 2013 No.10553187 >>10548673 Whatever, I'm converting to Christianity instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 20:24:03 2013 No.10553194 File: 16 KB, 213x219, Wayavatar.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >not walking the path of the Avatar

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 20:31:31 2013 No.10553224 File: 102 KB, 390x597, jean-paul-sartre.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10548644 >>10548726 >>10548752 >>10548810 >>10548832 >>10548930 What the fuck am I reading. >>10548990 My nigga.

Anonymous Sat Mar 2 09:29:53 2013 No.10555562

Why the fuck are you people discussing things like "morality" in a topic about spiritual development? The latter is about evolving as an individual, the former is about devolving.

Oh right, how could I forget. Religion isn't about spiritual development. It's a tool to control people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 21:16:17 2013 No.10558667 >>10548673 Alcohol yes but not cigarettes? Fuck that. >>10548737 NO, it's Forbidden. Don't twist words anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 21:28:17 2013 No.10558713 >>10548812 Holy shit, I want to be dominated by Byakuren.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 2 21:33:18 2013 No.10558726 File: 41 KB, 399x408, Yin-Yang.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] buddhism a bit of a shit

>>	Freezing !BASARADtDc Sat Mar 2 21:43:07 2013 No.10558767 >>10555562 >Religion isn't about spiritual development. It's a tool to control people. eedgy/10

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 18:20:35 2013 No.10562634 >>10558767 Miko's actions reflect that actually.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 18:26:36 2013 No.10562653 >>10562634 Miko didn't try to control anyone though religion, Byakuren pls stop.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 18:27:35 2013 No.10562659 >>10562653 She tried to control a whole country.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 18:31:35 2013 No.10562669 >>10562659 >control She was ruler, she had to practice buddhism publicly or else the populace wouldn't support her anymore. If anything, she was the one being controlled, having to practice taoism in secret.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 18:32:36 2013 No.10562673 >>10558767 real talk tho it has been that since the first religion

Anonymous Sun Mar 3 18:47:23 2013 No.10562732
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wait what the fuck did time just repeat itself
am i in the past
is it groundhog's day
what is happening
why are some of these posts the same
did i hit past 88mph

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 18:59:20 2013 No.10562777 File: 270 KB, 739x734, 1361915570031.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I could take psychedelics drugs or meditate and get pretty much the same effect. One's easier than the other

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 19:00:06 2013 No.10562784 >>10558767 But he's right

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 19:41:50 2013 No.10562899 File: 151 KB, 680x780, 1359787726647.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Would /jp/ worship Nurgle or Slaanesh?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 20:20:20 2013 No.10563070 >>10562899 Nurgle. Slaanesh has some horrible downside where you can't enjoy anything after a while right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 20:24:50 2013 No.10563092 >>10563070 It's more you need to do more hardcore things to maintain your high.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 20:25:35 2013 No.10563099 >>10562777 Still trying to figure this picture out. So shes in the back seat, with vag on the back of the front seat? Why?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 20:26:20 2013 No.10563105 >>10563099 I don't think you're supposed to think about it, man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 20:28:36 2013 No.10563118 >>10562899 /tg/ pls go

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 20:28:51 2013 No.10563119 >>10562899 Nurgle. /jp/ is all about stagnation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 3 20:36:50 2013 No.10563164 File: 523 KB, 1014x665, r63 primarchs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wich primarch wuld u fugg?

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