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Anonymous Thu Feb 28 10:54:09 2013 No.10547913 [Reply] [Original]

How are the rest of non-crossboard, non- confucker, users of /jp/ coping with Yume Nikki being sold out? I was going to give Kiki the benefit of the doubt, assuming he was pressured by corporations into selling out his IP, but given that it started with phone straps, and the low amount of advertisement, it seems only likely that it's all his willing.

Goodbye Yume Nikki.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 10:55:55 2013 No.10547914 >>10547913 >>10543796

>>	Purple Thu Feb 28 10:59:38 2013 No.10547918 File: 96 KB, 1065x596, Ym.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I laughed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 11:00:23 2013 No.10547924 Yume Nikki got old years ago; most of the people that are interested in it now are gross and dumb. Just ignore them, it's not worth the trouble.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 11:02:08 2013 No.10547929 >>10547924 This. Those where good times but its time to move on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 11:45:38 2013 No.10548009 The Tomizawa Hitoshi's manga is going to be great.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 11:54:08 2013 No.10548026

Fuck hipster, fuck elistism, it was something /jp/ had, and other small groups or singular people that weren't totally connected with /jp/. It was something that wasn't shitted up by other boards or people. When something's pure it can prosper and those who've partaken in it can feel connected, in a bond sort of way. Sounds pretty faggy, but YN meant a lot to me and even the people at Uboachan, it seemed. IAfter YN finishing, it was one of the best things ever experienced, and so I ended up checking that place out (found out about YN from /jp/ years ago). After I checked out IRC for questions about getting it to work I noticed everyone there was batshit crazy. But they didn't fag the whole thing up by spreading it to normals. And there was some nice content created there. The worst thing really was the conscum meetups, but whatever.

Anyways I just thing creating something this unqiue and loved, should be kept sacred as ZUN has done by not trying to profit off of his stuff more than only to cover the costs of setting conventions up or whatever. I don't know maybe it's just me. But an anime for example would be the worst for YN, and for touhou too, and ZUN knows that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 11:55:53 2013 No.10548028 >>10547929 >where Move on to school, you've got some learning to do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 11:56:23 2013 No.10548030 Stop being a hipster and instantly disliking something you once enjoyed because it's grew in popularity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 11:57:23 2013 No.10548032 >>10548030 No fuck you, you don't get what things like this do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 11:58:08 2013 No.10548034 >>10548030 You might as well be asking all /jp/ers to stop shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 11:59:23 2013 No.10548035 >>10548026 ZUN has already written and published three novels, nigga. And that's not counting all those other books. The Touhou merchandise is all over Japan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:01:08 2013 No.10548038 >>10548026 You have missed some of the Touhou manga http://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=2028

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:01:25 2013 No.10548039 >>10548034 Yes, that too. I don't even think there's a difference at this point. No-one can be that much of a hipster and do it seriously.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:02:38 2013 No.10548043 >>10548035 >>10548038 Let's not forget all those Touhous licensed to commercial games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:02:38 2013 No.10548044 >>10548039 Nothing is sacred in /jp/ anymore (´; ω ;`)

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:10:55 2013 No.10548052

>>10548026
This is how I felt about Cave Story. I was happy pixel was making money and stuff, but it went from this cute underground thing that spread among a few weeaboo websites, to just another Steam indie game created largely by Americans.

I don't know. It's not like these games weren't popular in their prime, because they were, but they lose their humility. They go from a strong cult following to just another franchise that's out there.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:16:57 2013 No.10548069

>>10548039
>No-one can be that much of a hipster and do it seriously.
It is a serious thing. In the physical world a certain work may just be something to be watched or enjoyed or played alone, but what's more important is the way people perceive it. And many people think of something like Touhou Project as being more than a collection of media - they think of such things as being connected to a community. And they're not entirely wrong.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:26:52 2013 No.10548086

>>10548069
I kinda see what you mean, but I don't think Touhou is that good of an example. Touhou community has a lot of elements you need to ignore to enjoy it. All communities do, but for Touhou it is particularly true. When it comes to coping with popularity, Touhou fans should have lots and lots of experience.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:58:35 2013 No.10548167 >>10548026 fuck off

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 13:21:37 2013 No.10548231 >buying it

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 14:50:57 2013 No.10548464

>>10548052

I know how you feel. Mainstream popularity has the potential to ruin everything.

Speaking of Cave Story, Nicalis the company that made Cave Story 3D is/was working on porting Yatagarasu (the fighting game) to 3DS for some retarded reason. I have no idea why they didn't just localize the PC version.

Fucking idiots.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:23:43 2013 No.10548561 File: 7 KB, 152x251, 1337396376242s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10548086 >When it comes to coping with popularity, Touhou fans should have lots and lots of experience You really think Touhou is popular?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:24:28 2013 No.10548562 >>10548561 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:25:43 2013 No.10548565 >>10548562 Well you're wrong. Ask the average normie on the street what touhou is. Hell ask your average forum goer and you'll get the same response.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:27:29 2013 No.10548569 >>10548565 Very loud and extremely obnoxious minority then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:27:42 2013 No.10548571 >>10548565 We're obviously talking about a different type of mainstream here, rather than mainstream on a global scale. We're talking about mainstream within its genre.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:29:12 2013 No.10548575 >>10548561 I'm getting reaaaaally sick of that old fucker's face.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:30:12 2013 No.10548579 File: 19 KB, 300x430, 1357933539501 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10548569 This is right on the money. >>10548575 pic related

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:31:57 2013 No.10548585 /jp/ - The Cutting Edge of Hipsterism

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:57:43 2013 No.10548674 Corn fucker? What? I'm a chicken fucker.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:11:57 2013 No.10548710 >>10548674 >not being a chicken sexer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_sexer

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 02:34:40 2013 No.10550805 >>10548565 So only things that are known of by over 50% of the Japanese population are popular? So if something only had 10 million fans, it's not popular?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 02:35:10 2013 No.10550809 >>10548464 >I know how you feel. Mainstream popularity has the potential to ruin everything. I don't understand how other people's opinions matter. Can't you enjoy something without going on message boards to be bothered by its fans?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 02:37:40 2013 No.10550814 >>10548575 I honestly would wager that only a minority of people on 4chan know who that guy is and keep posting his pictures for some reason.

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 03:30:00 2013 No.10550913

>>10548585
I wouldn't call it that. It's not like I think I'm better than people because of my interests. The problem is that I don't like seeing something I care about getting misappropriated. It's the same feeling I have against people who liked Yume Nikki simply because it was obscure instead of enjoying it for what it is. It's the same reason I don't like people who brag about using drugs, or people who regurgitate Touhou memes without having played a single game. I don't like tourists. I don't like insincerity.

When the substance becomes conflated with image, I feel the thing I care about is ignored or undermined. Unfortunately, mainstream exposure inevitably invites this. If I was a true hipster, I wouldn't have liked YN in the first place; it would be easy to drop and forget. The problem is that I DO like it and would hate to see people bastardize it by reducing it to fandom/memes/image/etc.

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