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Donations pour in for homeless man who returned diamond ring

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/22/us/missouri-diamond-ring-returned/index.html

Well-wishers from around the world are opening their wallets to a homeless man who returned a diamond engagement ring to its rightful owner, after she accidentally dropped it in his donation cup.

>> No.10534604

Surprising behavior for an African. I guess some have learned to imitate human behavior.

>> No.10534612

>"What I actually feel like is, 'what has the world come to when a person who returns something that doesn't belong to him and all this happens?'" Harris said.

>> No.10534613

Wait wait, let me get this right. We're supposed to have sympathy and send money to this guy for doing the right thing?

>> No.10534615

It's funny because Arc is black.

>> No.10534616
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>be a diamond otaku
>find jp last week
>too shy to make threads
>refresh 2500 times a day for diamond otaku thread
>give up after a few days because forgot i had to take shits and started to smell it
>wake up today
>"hmm... maybe just one more refresh..."
>go on jp
>see this thread

Finally I can feel...

>> No.10534626

>>10534599
>"I like it, but I don't think I deserve it," he said.

>"What I actually feel like is, 'what has the world come to when a person who returns something that doesn't belong to him and all this happens?'" Harris said.

On one hand I have a ton of respect for him for talking like that, on the other hand he's getting $95,000 for doing a simple good deed that anyone with a conscience would have done. I suppose the last part isn't his fault.

>> No.10534619

>>10534613
This just in, white people are stupid.

>> No.10534623

Am I the only one happy for him?

>> No.10534637

>>10534626
I always noticed that homeless people are either insane or wise from all the experience. I guess going through your life like that will either break you or make you realize what life is all about. And then break you.

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>> No.10534642
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>be a homeless otaku
>find jp last week
>too shy to make threads
>refresh 2500 times a day for homeless otaku thread
>give up after a few days because forgot i had to take shits and started to smell it
>wake up today
>"hmm... maybe just one more refresh..."
>go on jp
>see this thread

Finally I can feel...

>> No.10534646

>>10534637
That isn't wisdom, though, it's common sense. What kind of world are we living in that you wouldn't expect the average person to have enough moral worth to return something like an engagement ring? It's a heartwarming act, certainly, but it's not worth press coverage, or $95,000. It's what should be expected of all people.

>> No.10534649

I would have stolen that as HELL

>> No.10534667

>>10534646
I don't think you'd be saying that quite as fast if you had been homeless.

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>>10534646
>moral

Do people still believe in these kinds of things? All morality is arbitrary, meant to keep the population under control.

>> No.10534682

>>10534646
>What kind of world are we living in

The world where homeless people beg on the streets.

>> No.10534678

>>10534646
It is expected, everyone knows that. It takes a different kind of person to actually follow those morals, especially these days.

>> No.10534679

>>10534646
>http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/22/us/missouri-diamond-ring-returned/index.html

You try returning a diamond ring when you live on the fucking streets.

If it was just a normal guy who found, it'd be expected, but a homeless guy?

>> No.10534686

>>10534669
Morality is arbitrary, yes, but if all men lived morally, the world would be a better place for most everyone.

Don't you want to think someone would help you in your time of need? Don't you think you should help others in their time of need, if you can reasonably do so?

>> No.10534691

>>10534669
Morality is not arbitrary. Ethics is relative, but certain things are definitely ethically wrong, such as killing another person or stealing from another person with selfish motives.

>> No.10534714

>>10534623
No. I'm happy for him. I hope he lives a good life.

>> No.10534737

>>10534623
95k is a decent amount, but what the fuck is he going to spend it on, a flat screen and stereo, and maybe a new iphone so he can video chat with his friends? How the hell is he going to walk around with all that money and not get stabbed, unless he has it in a bank account. But then they'll just wait for him to withdraw money to jump him.

>> No.10534747

>>10534737
I don't know, maybe he'll put it in a fucking bank account, get a place to live, and invest the rest?

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>>10534686
Define morality.

>>10534691
>Morality is not arbitrary.

Tell me, objectively, what the moral way to act is. For example, if you think that people should be kind to each other, prove that your reasoning isn't arbitrary without resorting to fallacies.

>> No.10534775

>>10534737
He could pay rent with that money.

>> No.10534776

>>10534747
You can't get a house for 95k, and most rental agreements require you to have a job, at least where I live. He might be able to rent with just a bank statement however. But I don't know about investing. There won't be much left to invest afterwards, not if you want fast returns like he would need. He has to get a job eventually and until then he has to live off of that.

>> No.10534788

>>10534770
The moral way to act is whatever results in the best results for everyone involved.

For example, take a case where you have five people needing organ transplants and a perfectly healthy person who is a match to all five people. The morally correct thing to do would be to euthanize him and use his organs to save the five people.

>> No.10534794

>>10534788
That's an ethical thing, not moral.

>> No.10534805

>>10534776
Obviously he has to get a job. I don't think he'll have a problem with that, with the press he's getting.

Then he can continue to invest the money in a 401(k) and a Roth IRA every month while living on the money he's earning.

>> No.10534808

>>10534788
>The moral way to act is whatever results in the best results for everyone involved.

Prove it. I'll wait.

>> No.10534824

>>10534808
I can't prove anything if you aren't presenting a counter-argument. If you're measuring 'goodness of results' in terms of well being, then the action that results in the most overall well being will be the correct one.

>> No.10534832

>>10534788

Utilitarianism is silly and fallacious.

>> No.10534835

>>10534824
You said that the moral way to act is whatever results in the best results for everyone. Prove your statement. Utilitarianism is just one theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem

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>>10534832

>> No.10534846

SURE IS OTAKU CULTURE IN HERE

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>> No.10534934

Oh man. OH MAN. Whata fuck. I can't stop laugh.

>> No.10534944

>>10534917
I wanted to post del, but Cirno is there so I'll pass.

>> No.10534954

>>10534846
This thread is for morality otaku. If you don't like it, then leave.

>> No.10534968

>>10534613
Rewarding good behavior reinforces said behavior.

>> No.10534974

>>10534691
>certain things are definitely ethically wrong, such as killing another person

what if that person is about to push the button on a bomb in a major city?

>> No.10534981

>>10534974

Please don't blow up bombs in major cities!

>> No.10534987

>>10534974
I'm not a deontologist. Kill that fucker.

>> No.10534985

>>10534974
Depends on what city. If it's anywhere in America, I let him live.

>> No.10534990

>>10534981
Don't worry, I would be the one killing him.

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>> No.10534996

>>10534985
no it's in jappon

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>> No.10535017

>>10535004
what the fug does that even mean

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>> No.10535049

>>10535035
>>10535039
i still don't understand what is wrong with uphill gardening

>> No.10535075

>>10535049

This is why you don't have friends, Anonymous.

>> No.10535139

>>10534805
Roth is limited to $5k a year and you don't really get any returns til you retire. you also have to keep putting in $5k or it doesn't amount to much

>> No.10535155 [DELETED] 

http://www.giveforward.com/billyray

The donations so far have netted him more money than he would have gotten from selling the ring.

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>> No.10535335

>>10535159
That's me.

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>"I like it, but I don't think I deserve it," he said.

I know what that feels like.

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>> No.10535367

DELEBE NOW
JANIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>> No.10535377

Greedy people are the ones that reproduce the most and that's why the world is so shitty.

If we had a eugenics programs to cull out undesirable personality traits and behavior stuff like this would be commonplace.

>> No.10535383

>>10535377
Stay envious, pleb. There's nothing wrong with greed, also known as doing things in your self-interest.

>> No.10535386

>>10535377
>Greedy people are the ones that reproduce the most and that's why the world is so shitty.

Actually the poorest and least educated people produce the most, look at Africa. The richer you get the less kids you have.

>> No.10535388

>>10535139
Yeah, the point of the Roth is to save money for when you can't work anymore.

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>> No.10535395

>>10535394
Me too

>> No.10535392

>>10535390
Reporting in

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>> No.10535400

>>10535397
Me again.

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>> No.10535411

>>10535377
I've given up. F5 'til death. Everyone seems to love life and disagree with me, so who am I to ruin things. If people start thinking that I'm a drain and better off dead, be my guest and come execute me.

>> No.10535420

>>10535377
People reproduce more when their lives are unstable.

Look at Africa, as >>10535386 pointed out, and also ghettos or booming 3rd world countries (China, India).

>> No.10535421

>>10535411
Are you really so greedy and lazy that you want someone else to ruin their life because you aren't man enough to kill yourself?

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>> No.10535425

>>10535386
>>10535420

Alright then, I'll modify my idea to include only niggers and kikes.

How much would the world improve afterward?

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