Well /jp/, I've decided after uni I'm moving to glorious nippon. But I need advice on things like where the least flood-exposed places are, and how moving and integrating to japanese society works. Anybody who's gone through the process willing to give any advice?

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Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:02:34 2013 No.10520020 [Reply] [Original]

Well /jp/, I've decided after uni I'm moving to glorious nippon. But I need advice on things like where the least flood-exposed places are, and how moving and integrating to japanese society works.

Anybody who's gone through the process willing to give any advice?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:06:04 2013 No.10520031 Kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:07:04 2013 No.10520038 >>10520031 >>10520035 Why? I'd rather start anew where nobody knows me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:07:49 2013 No.10520035 >>10520020 Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:08:50 2013 No.10520041 >>10520031 Beat me to it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:13:34 2013 No.10520064 kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:15:35 2013 No.10520071 File: 56 KB, 339x298, please kill yourself.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:16:04 2013 No.10520075 >>10520041 >>10520071 >>10520064 That's not helping. Why is it obviously such a bad idea?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:18:49 2013 No.10520081 >>10520020 > Anybody who's gone through the process willing to give any advice? You could start by not being a fucking pedophile.

Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:19:49 2013 No.10520085

Resident gaijin here.

As long as you can speak Japanese, you'll be fine. Don't talk on trains, don't be a loud asshole, just take it easy.

Also, finding as job teaching English is easy as fuck, as long as you look in the right places. There is an English school every few blocks in most cities.

But be prepared: Everything is expensive here. My friend lives in a room that is the size of a small car for 30000 Yen a month. Cigarettes are just over 400 Yen. But the train will be your biggest income killer. Try to find a job that pays for your transportation.

Best of luck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:20:50 2013 No.10520088 Not OP here, but why do you all get so annoyed about people mentioning ever even thinking about moving to Japan? It's ridiculous

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:21:50 2013 No.10520091 this shits going on youtube

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:22:05 2013 No.10520097 >>10520081 What's wrong with liking kids? >>10520085 Should I take the JLPT, does it help with anything? Or is it more just personal achievement? Also, how much does an average English teacher make?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:29:19 2013 No.10520105 >>10520097 What level is your Japanese at right now? And it is more of a personal achievement thing, but saying that it would definitely strengthen your resume

Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:29:34 2013 No.10520106

>>10520097
I wouldn't know the first thing about JLPT. I literally came here last month to get away from America. But, my housemate says that it can help you get interviews at places that usually wouldn't give you a second look. It's worth taking, I'd say.

And me? I make about 1400 Yen a class. That's on the low end. The school I work at changes pay depending on the class, so sometimes it's more. I'd say it'd be worth it to get two jobs, if you wanted to work as an English teacher. It's barely enough to cover for myself. I'll get another one once I have settled in.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:31:49 2013 No.10520114 >>10520105 I can understand basic Japanese, and I'd say I know about 300 kanji.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:32:20 2013 No.10520117 File: 113 KB, 1280x720, aucgax8h.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10520097 > What's wrong with liking kids? It's morally wrong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:33:05 2013 No.10520119 >>10520117 It's not like I'm actually going to bone one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:33:50 2013 No.10520121 Ignore the threadshitters. Do you know Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:34:05 2013 No.10520123 >>10520121 >Ignore the threadshitters. Says the threadshitter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:35:04 2013 No.10520127 >>10520119 How can you be so sure? Loli might only be a gateway drug. It's only a matter of time. Stop while you still can.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:37:49 2013 No.10520129 >>10520121 Yeah, I can read it to a degree and I've been learning for about an hour a day for the past 5 months. Also, robotics at Uni will be 2/3 years, so I've got time. >>10520127 I hate kids, that's why. They're loud, annoying, and pretty shitty.

Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:42:34 2013 No.10520142

>>10520106
>1400 Yen a class.

haha oh wow. GABA? get an ALT job. I get 250,000 a month, paid travel, end of contract bonus and full holiday pay. 12x50 minute classes a week.

charge 4,000 an hour for privates as well which brings in another 100,000 a month and my weekends are free. 55,000 a month 1DLK in namba. I save about 80,000 a month.

don't work for less than 200,000 a month OP. paying 1,400 is just taking advantage of people who will put up with anything to live in japan. even if they quit after a year (80% do) there is always another sucker to take over.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:42:49 2013 No.10520144 >>10520020 lol why the fuck do you want to move there weeb

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:47:04 2013 No.10520155 >>10520142 GABA? ALT? Please explain. >>10520144 I think you just explained it. No, I'm going to try and involved in robotics. Ther have the game on lock over there. http://waa.ai/0Hh is a good example.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:50:05 2013 No.10520162 >>10520155 GABA is the bottom of the barrel rip off company that pays fuck all for private teachers (eikaiwa) ALT is assistant language teacher in a high school. better money, easier work, much more fun.

Anonymous Fri Feb 22 09:52:20 2013 No.10520167

>>10520142

Nah, Treebell. I do know about GABA though. I'd complain, but the thing is I am only here until July. I need a way to kill time, mostly. Japan gets boring after the first few WOW IT'S SO DIFFERENT SHIT.

But if you had any advice on how not to get fucked over, it'd be really welcome. All my co-workers know they're getting ripped off. Housemate says that the President and CEO aren't exactly being peachy keen and clean, if you know what I mean.

>mfw I'm Hafu so it isn't even that different for me

Anonymous Fri Feb 22 10:02:49 2013 No.10520192

>>10520167
>advice on how not to get fucked over

erm, don't accept shit jobs?

even I am getting ripped off. my contract ends next month and I am applying for direct hires so no agency can take 2m a year from the real salary for doing nothing much. 5-5.5m a year with holiday pay is standard ALT salary. most companies keep your holiday pay and give you nothing.

sage Anonymous Fri Feb 22 10:08:34 2013 No.10520203

>>10520192

I will look around. Would they need me to stay here longer than I plan on staying here?

The company I work for gave me a nice deal of letting me stay in a 45000 Yen room for 20000. I just hate how they won't let me use Japanese in my classes. If a kid doesn't understand something, how the fuck are they going to find out if I use English? My company just wants retarded gaijin who don't know the first thing about Japan. Pisses me off.

ALT isn't like that, is it? I just want a chance to practice my Japanese too. I need to study just as much as these poor children. ;-;

Anonymous Fri Feb 22 10:15:38 2013 No.10520222

>>10520203
>I just want a chance to practice my Japanese

you're an english teacher. as soon as I let on that I can speak japanese the kids start talking to me in japanese. when I lie and feign ignorance they have to try and speak english. that's why I am there. to teach, not to practise japanese.

when I learned french and german at school the entire class was in those languages. too much japspeak is why they are shit at english.

if you are leaving in july you have no chance really. leaving in the middle of a school year is a pain. you can lie I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 10:20:54 2013 No.10520239 reported for being a webo

Anonymous Fri Feb 22 10:22:24 2013 No.10520241

>>10520222
I'll keep that in mind. I think I'll just stick with these shit jobs for now and try and find a good job when I come back some day. I didn't realize I was hurting their education, so I'll refrain from 日本語 as much as is necessary.

Any tips for meeting people, by the way? I don't mean to be needy, but I have no friends and I'm so bored all the time.

pls respond

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 10:26:08 2013 No.10520251 >>10520241 >>10520241 turn off your computer and go out drinking/ good things will happen. plenty of international party type things happen where you can meet jap chicks who want to meet foreigners.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 22 10:30:23 2013 No.10520264 >>10520251 Thank you very much for your advice! I'll do that! I wish you the best! Good luck!

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>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 12:37:07 2013 No.10525707 bump! :) u mad? take a swing brah I'll knock you down

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 12:49:06 2013 No.10525751 >>10520251 >turn off your computer >go out >party >jap chicks holy shit how do people like this even find /jp/

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 12:52:21 2013 No.10525763 >>10520097 Get JLPT N1. Anything below is useless. You'll need it to apply for things like government scholarships for grad school or real jobs (English teaching is temporary migrant work - not a career).

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 12:56:51 2013 No.10525782 an hero please or go out and get laid with some jap chicks

Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:00:22 2013 No.10525795

English teaching is the -wrong- way to go if you actually want to live in Japan in the long term. Don't even go near it.

1. Get a real degree (not liberal arts bullshit)
2. Get JLPT N1, this is the bare minimum
3. Avoid other foreigners, 99% of them are terrible role models for you. Don't take any of their advice or listen their opinions. The vast majority can't read Japanese, at most of the time they're baby-talk level conversational. Just talk to the locals yourself and form your own opinion once you develop your Japanese skills.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:01:21 2013 No.10525802 >>10525795 This. It's amazing that the Japanese still have a good impression of westerners considering the high proportion of trash here.

Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:01:22 2013 No.10525803
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>>10520085
Well, another dreamer here.

I wish to open a german restaurant in japan in 5 or 6 years.
Most people say it could work out due the japs are crazy after the german culture. Money wouldn't be the problem for 6-10 months.

Problem is, I don't know much about the japanese bureaucracy.
Also I'm afraid that the restaurant will fail hard and I end up back in Naziland after my money runs out.

What does /jp/ think ? Kill myself or follow my dreams ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:02:51 2013 No.10525809 >>10525803 get that weeb mentality out of you and you'll be fine

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:02:51 2013 No.10525810 >>10525803 >german restaurant what kind of dishes would you serve?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:03:21 2013 No.10525811 >>10525803 if you know japanese and have experience running a restaurant then go for it

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:04:51 2013 No.10525817 >>10525810 Hamburgers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:05:06 2013 No.10525822 >>10525803 This would depend on your experience of running restaurants and your knowledge of the Japanese food service sector, and whether you have a reasonably large amount of cash lying about to start one.

Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:06:06 2013 No.10525828

>>10525811
My parents have two restaurants in my hometown, worked part time there. Not real expierence HOW to, but the basic is there. Also I've got some time left before I plan to actually move there.

>>10525810
Typical german or austrian stuff.
Schnitzel, Schweinshaxe, Maultaschen.
Also a lot of deserts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:06:36 2013 No.10525826 >>10525817 Oh my bad bro I thought you said German not murrifat piece of SHIT motherfucker! Fucking kill yourself RIGHT NOW!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:16:51 2013 No.10525866 >>10525795 I actually wonder why so many foreigners who don't even bother learn the language or manners complain about the country.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:22:36 2013 No.10525891 >>10520085 >Cigarettes are just over 400 Yen That's not very expensive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:30:06 2013 No.10525944 >>10525891 It is if he means per cigarette.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:31:52 2013 No.10525948 >>10525944 it's not. It's per package. cigarettes are really cheap for some reason.

Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:33:21 2013 No.10525950

>>10525866
Westerners always complain when people come to their countries and don't learn the local language (hell they even complain about educated foreigners), but they're actually the worst when it comes to learning the language and integrating into the culture of new places.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:34:21 2013 No.10525956 Well OP, you should know why japanese otaku don't leave their houses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:40:06 2013 No.10525977 >>10525948 because the entire country smokes

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 13:54:52 2013 No.10526030 >>10525977 No they don't. I don't know anyone who smokes here, because I don't hang out with morons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 14:07:37 2013 No.10526077 >>10520129 Then why are you aspiring to become an English teacher?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 15:39:24 2013 No.10526647 File: 20 KB, 250x250, 1295734098382.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10520031 >>10520035 When in Rome...

Anonymous Sat Feb 23 15:50:09 2013 No.10526754

>>10525803
>>10525828

Opening a restaurant anywhere is literally the most guaranteed way to lose money in the world. No sort of business has a worse chance to survive for even a year.
You're going to want to get some restaurant management experience, at the very least.

Both of my parents were bankers, and you wouldn't believe some of the things they told me, but one of them is that startup loans for restaurants are pretty much guaranteed to default within the first year. Most banks won't even glance at anything to do with a restaurant unless it's been successful for over a year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 17:22:43 2013 No.10527253 >>10526754 >you wouldn't believe some of the things they told me I'd be pretty interested to hear a few bullet points

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 18:18:58 2013 No.10527532 >>10526030 What part of Japan are you in? If I ever visit, I'd prefer to go to a non-diseased part of the country.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 18:25:58 2013 No.10527576 You guys make me so jealous. I wish I had money to go to college and get my life sorted out so I could go and play at their arcades, but I'm way too poor to do anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 18:52:28 2013 No.10527704 >>10520117 >It's morally wrong. Prove it.

Anonymous Sat Feb 23 18:53:58 2013 No.10527710

>>10525950
Actually not all of them there was this nice black girl teaching english a few years back and she always tried her best at school and even stopped bullying when normal teachers didn't care but she told everyone she was lonely and was scared to make friends so she stayed inside and drank under her kotatsu (She said her Kotatsu is the thing she wanted to bring back home most).

Sadly her account got hacked and the videos couldn't be recovered and her newer vids were about teaching in Europe so I didnt care.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 18:55:13 2013 No.10527717 Wrong board for this shit thread, kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 18:56:43 2013 No.10527723 ｄｏｎ’ｔ　ｃｏｍｅｈｅｒｅ　ｐｌｅａｓｅ

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 18:58:13 2013 No.10527733 >>10527532 Gensokyo

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 19:00:43 2013 No.10527739 >>10520129 You should only be looking to be an ELT as a stop-gap. You shouldn't even be planning to do it before you've finished your degree. It's more of an "oh shit, I need something to do" type of job

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 19:06:28 2013 No.10527767 >>10525828 >>10525803 >>10527253 Good luck getting a VISA without a degree.

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