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10369902 No.10369902 [Reply] [Original]

is it really important to know all of the 2000 odd primary kanji?

because I'm at like the 800th one wondering if I really need to know the kanji for magnet.

also has having an encyclopedic knowledge of kanji ever helped your eroge experience at all?

>> No.10369917

>>10369902
Just learn it. Seriously.

>> No.10369921

>>10369917
okay.

>> No.10369922

You've made it this far why stop now?

>> No.10369931

Impressive OP.

I've learned just over 500 and I already feel like I have a ton of kanji in my mind, but then I try to read almost any sentence in any game or online and I only see the very basics like 見 or 生

I guess this is just the way it will be until I build the huge encyclopedia in my mind.

>> No.10369934

>>10369931
And by that I meant the basics mixed in with some random high level kanji that I've never seen before

>> No.10369939

>>10369931
It's probably what it will be like until you just go force yourself to read something.

>> No.10369940 [DELETED] 

>>10369902
2000 is a small amount. You won't even be able to read complex Vns without >4000 kanji. And you had better be learning vocab with your kanji or you're doing it wrong.

>> No.10369941 [DELETED] 

>>10369934
Learn vocab and grammar now, do it.

>> No.10369947

>>10369931
for me actually reading things helped a lot.

nothing particularly complicated though, and sometimes with furigana just because fuck it.

>> No.10369957

Neah, you don't need all of them. Specifically, you probably don't need 丙

Every other one you should learn though.

>> No.10369962

>>10369941
I'm slowly working my way through Genki because tae kim was too brief for me I just ended up frustrated

I'm about 1/3 through the book or a bit closer to halfway through and I'm starting to get a small grasp of some sentences, but I really need to go back through what Ive already read to review because a lot of the time I'm finding that I am not totally familiar with the concepts when i come across them in reading random stuff.

I think I am just a slow learner and have trouble completely focusing on reading and learning the textbooks
>>10369947
I'm playing through a few 3DS games, but sadly none of the ones I'm playing have furigana so I either dont get the grammar of the sentence, or end up spending a ton of time looking up the kanji by radicals to understand what they are saying.

I did download baldr sky to try to do that, because a texthooker or whatever the other program is for assisted VN reading seems like it would make things a lot more beginner friendly and useful as a learning tool (the screenshot I showed had the different particles and words highlighted with different colors)

>> No.10369964

>>10369957
>丙
Oh thank god! Now we're down to a mere 1999 odd!

>> No.10369974 [DELETED] 

>>10369957
>丙
Yeah you do need that. If you read any VN with military in it that will probably pop up.

>> No.10369975

>>10369962
Play fortune summoners. It has furigana for everything but the most basic words.

>> No.10369979

>>10369974
And yet another joke ruined by an autist trying to show off his leet japanese skills.

>> No.10369983

>>10369962
the screenshot i saw*
>>10369975
Do you know if the original game has problems running on dual monitors?

I played the localized one and it has a horrible problem with dual monitors that makes it lag to the point of being unplayable after a few minutes.

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10369984

>>10369979
JIDF pls leave

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>>10369902

First thing's first: The first thing I thought of when I opened OP's pic was: Damn, can almost see Marisa's panties...

Anyways, OP, clearly the people that posted in this thread so far are faggots and never set foot in Japan.

I spent a couple of years in Japan and by the end of the first year knew the 2000 jouyou kanji, but after another year or 2 there I realized that you probably only see around the first 500 kanji the most and yeah, about 800-900 being perfectly fine for 99% of reading anything including Japanese newspapers.

Most of even jouyou kanji is kind of pointless since it is never used nowdays.

Now having said all that, another thing I learned after learning the first 500-800 was that when you get that far, most of the kanji after that is just kanji made up combinations of the more simple kanji, so it is really easy to learn after you got as far as you did.

However, as stated, even if you learn beyond that you will probably never read the actual kanjis even in Japan.

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