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Why are Japs so much better than Westerners when it comes to fan works?

Are we too lazy or do we simply lack the skills to create anything memorable?

>> No.10352339

/jp/ - International

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>> No.10352365

>>10352338

Because IP laws. In the US, I've certainly never heard of someone taking someone else's characters and settings, creating stuff with it, and selling it for money without needing to at least pay royalties.

In Japan, however, people are allowed to profit from Touhou without needing to give any money to ZUN.

>> No.10352369

They're better at the technical aspects of almost every art form. Naturally adept at visual art, music, etc... It's just the creative side of things that they seem to struggle with.

This is all, of course, an enormous generalization.

>> No.10352367

Look at the fucking gaming community and you'll see that they are extremely competent at it. At least some of them. Some fan movies are in a whole other level compared to some touhou shit out there. Although the iM@S MAD community is fucking impressive.

>> No.10352379

i wish i had some of the talent that some artist on pivix have

>> No.10352385

Because the moment you try and sell a fanbook, the law will come down on your head like a ton of bricks.

>> No.10352403

"westerners" doesn't exist

>> No.10353850

the west is infatuated with talking animals

>> No.10353863

Eastern - Let's get together and share our creations!

Western - ORIGINAL CHARACTER ORIGINAL VIDEO DO NOT STEAL *WATERMARKS* FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>> No.10353866 [DELETED] 

Most fan works, Japanese or western, is shit.

>> No.10353893

We have talent, it just doesn't do fan works because they are normals.

>> No.10354718

Japan creates an insane amount of fanwork mainly because they CAN, not because they are magically more talanted or what have you. They are not bound by extreme copyright laws and rabbid, foaming at the mouth rights holders. Disney isn't too fond of fanwork, lets just say and getting sued for even non-commercial drawing if quite the turn off. This is bad, because creating something original is MUCH harder than it seems and it's a lot easier to create fanart of existing IPs and franchises. Being actually free to draw, mix existing compositions etc... eases the burden of creativity on eastern artists, thus they have incentive to create something. Western artists are stuck with the notion that anything unoriginal is automatically bad, and even punishable. Thus, are forced into absolute originality, which is much harder than fanwork. Another problem is the culture of artist communities. Examples. Eastern: fanart of my wok? Awesome! Thank you! Western: omigod I didn't give you specific authority to use my work I'm gonna complain to bla bla bla... (though it's gotten much MUCH better now then it was a few years ago)
So there's your answer. Being free to create, they do create, and practice, and get better and create more.

>> No.10354765

>Why are Japs so much better than Westerners when it comes to fan works?

Because you're weeaboo shit

>Are we too lazy or do we simply lack the skills to create anything memorable?

You're just projecting.

>> No.10354772

Because west is fucking insane about copyrights.

>> No.10354775

If only ZUN!bar was here...

>> No.10354779

>>10354775
That reminds me. Zun himself is very lax with copyright and that has gotten his franchise almost Disney level status. And it's a one man company.

>> No.10354780

Fan works from DA and drawfag generals are on par with the Japanese imho.

>> No.10354789

>>10354779
>almost Disney level status
Now that's one big overstatement.

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>>10352338

Let me guess, you also believe Asians are the only ones who can get cosplay right.

>> No.10354809

Japanese doujins/games look good, but they read just as badly as every other DA fanfic that the west thows out. If it isn't some romance angst that borders on obsessive creepiness without real yandereness, it's some tired overused plot like age regression or mind switching.

>> No.10354813

>>10354779
He wont be so lax for long, he's been licensing out Touhou characters to Squeenix. It's only a matter of time before we see Touhou: 3rd Distorted Sight Only for the 3DS, published by Squarenix

>> No.10354833

NO. It is because of copyright law THERE.
They can't put up photo/image/graphics of the works, but drawn art are okay.

Haven't you noticed that fansites there are usually devoid of any official image?

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both East and West can create satisfying fan content. Look at TES modding for example.

>> No.10354875

>>10354813
Bro, please don't say scary things like that. The mere thought makes sick.

>> No.10354892

>>10354779
Speaking of copyright, has that one guy who trademarked/copyrighted/something Touhou done anything with it yet? Or has anything at all happened?

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