/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Do you prefer to be called a weeaboo or an otaku? What do you consider yourself to be?

[Anonymous No.]

Kill yourself out of /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327778
Why? I'm just curious. The board is called "otaku culture."

[Anonymous No.]

I'm just a guy who likes Japanese porn games.

[Anonymous No.]

ultimately labels with little or no meaning especially outside the cultural context they originated.

or at least that's regarding otaku, the weeaboo thing is something insecure newfags came up with to berate their predecessors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327804
I agree with the weeaboo part. It really means nothing. What would you consider yourself if not an otaku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327810
a guy who likes asians things

[Anonymous No.]

i'm a underground japanese sbuculture conoisseur

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care about labels. Maybe I am. Maybe I'm not. I'd say that I'm just observing.

[Anonymous No.]

I call myself a wapanese/weeaboo in a tongue-in-cheek way. I guess you can say it gets old, but whatever. It's not like I make a habit of discussing it.

[Anonymous No.]

neither

[Anonymous No.]

No identification with anything. Pure soul. Real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327929
this guy gets it more than any of you will

[Anonymous No.]

I'm just cute~

[Anonymous No.]

I liked 4chan more when weeaboos were given shit the minute they even posted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327938
you're saying that on /jp/, I don't even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327938
I got tired of that after a while it just makes the atmosphere of threads stressful.

[Anonymous No.]

I prefer the term transethnic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327938
Too many people here detest the West for that.

[Anonymous No.]

i hate how weeaboo and otaku have became so interchangeable.

an otaku is an otaku, and a weeaboo is a western otaku who thinks he's japanese and has taken his otakuism way too far.

there's a big difference.

[Anonymous No.]

LOLZ OTABOO LOLLILOL"!1@34rqc

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327948
Weeaboos were originally those shiteating retards that went to conventions and cosplayed and such. The type of idiots you see making anime related videos on youtube.

>>10327940
Well yeah of course, the hating weeaboos thing predates /jp/ by a long shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327943
HAHAHAHA that's brilliant!

but how do you know you fit in better over there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327954
Check your privilege you cisethnic scum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327948
Ha, whatever you say.

[Anonymous No.]

Only japanese can be "otaku".

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327960
It's just a word. Next thing you'll be telling me is that only Japanese can be kirei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327960
Only English-speaking people can be jugglers. Jugglers is an English word and so only applies to English-speaking people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327964
Otaku explicitly refers to a Japanese person though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327962
but i'm genuinely interested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327965
I doubt that. Do all Japanese nouns only apply to Japanese things? Does the Japanese word for chair only apply to Japanese chairs?

That would be very strange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327965
You should lurk more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327973
Go away Sean.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm an inheritor of the Samurai spirit！

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327972
>>10327970
"The otaku" is a mass noun referring to japanese (most males) with an obsessive habit in anime/manga/other recreational hobbies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327969
How does a transgendered person know they fit into their true gender?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327981
whichever is more convenient

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327981
yes i'm essentially asking that too i guess.

but with the Japanese thing i mean surely you'd have to be over there for a long time before you could tell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327980
>"The otaku"

Japanese people use the word "the"?

This is news to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327984
This is terminal level autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327985
Typical answer from a privileged cisgendered, cisethnic neurotypical.

[Anonymous No.]

NEET is an acronym imported to Japan from Britain.

There are no Japanese NEETs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327960
And only Japanese can be "hikikomori".

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327993
Because the Japanese word for NEET is Hikikomori

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328001
>The Japanese Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare defines hikikomori as people who refuse to leave their house and, thus, isolate themselves from society in their homes for a period exceeding six months

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327993
What about salarymen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327994
That's correct.

Non-Japanese : NEET
Japanese : hikikomori

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327996
You can be a hikki and work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327992
you're being a pain in the butt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328004
So you can't work at home now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328000
That's totally off, though. The two terms have completely different definitions. What would you call a non-Japanese person who doesn't leave his room, then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327991
My counselor said I had very light autism, so nope.

You argument is stupid. Accept it and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328011
>What would you call a non-Japanese person who doesn't leave his room, then?
NEET

[Anonymous No.]

NEETs leave their rooms all the time. Just look at the amount of cocksucking in the last NEET thread. It's fine to use hikikomori to refer to some Westerners, >>10328004's post does not leave any doubt about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328014
Wrong. That's just a person who isn't employed, in education, or training. So for all you know, a NEET could be a person that goes out with his friends every single day. A NEET could be a rich person who travels around the world all his life buying mansions in different places. Those types are much different from a person who is also absent from employment/education/training, but shuts himself in his room. You can't have both under the same label.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328032
>>10328029
It's like you have no idea what context is and how words evolve and change.

Is it a symptom of autism or something to take everything so literal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328044
Not all NEETs are Hikkis and not all Hikkis are NEETs. You can't use the terms interchangeably depending on ethnicity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328044

>Is it a symptom of autism or something to take everything so literal?

Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really dig labels much, because I'm an individual and I'm tired of people stereotyping or judging me. I'm a diagnosed otherkin(animal born in a human body) so I know a thing or two about discrimination.

Unfortunately Obama has been completely silent regarding hate crime legislation for others like me, so my situation still sucks massive balls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328054
I know your pain as a fellow genderqueer, transethnic, otherkin dragon-fox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328044
Why the hell is hikikomori Japanese only? There are studies that use the word to refer to inhabitants of other countries. Primarily Korea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328054

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328054
Is this some kind of reverse trolling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328079
Check your privilege cisspecies scum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328054
>Otherkin largely identify as mythical creatures,[4] with others identifying as creatures from fantasy or popular culture. Examples include: angels, demons, dragons, elves, fairies, sprites, aliens,[5][6][7] and cartoon characters.[8] A lot of otherkin believe in the existence of a multitude of parallel/alternative universes, which would explain the existence and the possibility to relate to fantastical beings and even fictional characters.
>this exists

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328120
Transethnic is a real thing too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328128
Maybe this is a good thing, it will make the mentally ill trannies realize the logical extension of their deluded beliefs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328063
Because it is a culture-specific syndrome. There may be a person with similar symptoms in another country, but they have not experienced the cultural causes that exist in Japan, and similarly there is no large group of people with such symptoms in other countries like there is in Japan. I'd be interested in the numbers regarding Korea, but I assume that the problem is nowhere near as widespread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328147
That doesn't mean foreign hikikomori don't exist. It just means there aren't very many of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328147
>syndrome

are oh eff el

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328151
It is a syndrome. Fuck off, idiot.

>>10328156
Yes it does. Two diseases can cause someone to cough and have a headache but it doesn't mean they are suffering from the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328162
You're a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328011
A shut-in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328162
>It is a syndrome. Fuck off, idiot.

Not wanting to go outside isn't a fucking syndrome you special snowflake cuntrag. Why does everyone in this generation have to assign some kind of mental illness to their decisions that they don't want to take responsibility for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328128
Transgender is a problem with hormones and development of the fetus.

Otherkin doesn't seem to have any physical basis since they most likely have no blood connection to the animals they claim to be (Not to mention that none of them would be willing to try and physically transition) it serms more like something spiritual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328029
Do you mean literal cocksucking? Link?

[Anonymous No.]

Not wanting to go outside and not wanting to interact with people are not syndromes. Why do threads started with /a/ content always attract the most idiotic people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328174
Deluded tranny detected. What if a man without hormone or development issues claims he's a woman? Would he not be a truTranny?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328162
And Japanese hikikomori who socially withdraw for reasons other than most of their counterparts no longer hikikomori, then? Are they suffering from a related but similar illness?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328145
Not really since it's barely even the same type of situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328174
Privileged tranny, I don't have any hormone issues but I know I'm a girl inside.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328173
Oh you're one of those people. Gotcha.

>>10328178
Yes.

>>10328168
Great argument there.

>>10328184
Hikikomori is not just "Oh well I don't want to go outside anymore. Ho hum." You don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328173
It's a syndrome when a disproportional number of people make the same bad decisions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328194
>Oh you're one of those people. Gotcha.

That wasn't a rebuttal. Not wanting to go outside because you find the internet life more satisfying is not a syndrome, it's a choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328194
There are hikkikomori that are in the position they are in simply because they are lazy and do not wish to work. Therefore you can not say that all hikkikomori have a syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328184
How is this "/a/ content?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328199
>>10328205
Honestly I think it's impossible to talk about hikikomori on /jp/ because 1. confuse it with NEET for some indeterminable reason, and 2. want to think that it's just some voluntary, "Hey I like being inside more so I'm going to say in" kind of things. I'm just going to stop posting in this thread. I mean there is plenty of information available about what hikikomori is. Read something outside of /jp/ about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328213
>Hikikomori (ひきこもり or 引き籠もり Hikikomori?, literally "pulling inward, being confined", i.e., "acute social withdrawal") is a Japanese term to refer to the phenomenon of reclusive adolescents or young adults who withdraw from social life, often seeking extreme degrees of isolation and confinement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328199
There is more to being a hikikomori than agoraphobia.

[Anonymous No.]

If I have had sex before but became a hikkimori later in life and haven't left my house in the past year does that make me a normalfag? I have been a hikki for about 3 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328218
See, told you there was more to it than agoraphobia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328194
>Yes.
So what would you call someone who shut himself in for atypical reasons in Japan? The word itself just means "withdrawal." If Japan were to borrow the word "shut-in" from English, nobody would argue that "shut-in" is a distinctly Western phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328213
agoraphobics are a subset of hikikomoris.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328172
Too vague. If you call somebody a shut-in, it could just mean that they avoid social situations as much as possible. They could still be a person who functions in society.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328217
I'm not confusing NEET with hikikomori. You are just trying to pretend that it's a mental illness when it's not, withdrawing from society is a choice. One I made myself.

Honestly, it just sounds like you're looking for something to blame for your choices that you have come to regret.

[Anonymous No.]

If any of you asked a Japanese hikikomori, "Do you want to be like this?" I bet you think they would answer, "Yes." You people are beyond deluded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328229
The vast majority of acute shut-ins aren't people who could function well in society. You may be an exception, but you're very, very far from typical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328223
Looks like we'll have to call in /jp/'s most qualified experts on the subject for this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328223
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328223
Get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328223
I don't know but I'm in the same boat just change 3 to 5 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328186
>>10328192
Autogynephilia is the term you guys are looking for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328245
>>10328243
>>10328242
I live with my parents, don't have a job or go to schoool. I spend all day watching anime, playing touhou. Just because I have had sex years ago automatically makes me a normalfag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328226
I wouldn't say so. I knew an agoraphobic, which would imply that some of them have social lives, unlike hikkis. She would be too afraid to go outside whenever she had an attack, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328245
pls no bully

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328256
>Just because I have had sex years ago automatically makes me a normalfag?

Turbovirgins are really, really insecure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328256
You're talking to idiots who think a hikikomori is just someone who is too lazy to work so they stay in (>>10328205). Stop trying to get their "approval."

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328196
>It's a syndrome when a disproportional number of people make the same bad decisions.
No, it's just a facet of human nature. Just like gun violence and murder doesn't mean there is suddenly an epidemic of sociopathy in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, I can't handle this concentration of retards.

I'm out of here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328247
Four Types of Autogynephilia

Blanchard distinguishes four types of autogynephilia (AGP): Transvestic – being aroused by the act or the fantasy of wearing women’s clothes

Behavioural - being aroused by the act or the fantasy of doing stereotypical female things, e.g. knitting, or having one’s hair’s done

Physiological - being aroused by the fantasy of menstruating or being pregnant

Anatomical - being aroused by the act or the fantasy of actually having breasts and a vagina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328256
Why do we care whether or not you're labeled a normal-fag by people here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328256
Yes, you are unclean. You probably have a bastard child who is starving now, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328251
Shut the fuck up you dumb piece of shit. One more word out of your mouth, one more fucking word, and I will do something really nasty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328257
>doesn't mean there is suddenly an epidemic of sociopathy in the world

You could have fooled me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328256
Don't worry. I had sex when I was 18 with a 15 year old, I even joined the military too. Now I live with my younger sister and live off my veteran's disability checks to live. My days consist of browsing /jp/, watching anime, playing jap games and fapping to lolis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328260
They find a life inside more pleasurable and rewarding than the outside word. It's a pretty logical choice, not a syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328267
Only Western "hikikmori" think of their situations that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328264
Bring it on nerd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328262
I was just curious. I feel really uncomfortable whenever I'm around people now, especially large groups.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328267
And that's not what hikikomori is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328279
That's IT.

*grabs your balls*

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328274
I'm not entirely sure what constitutes a normalfag, myself.

What exactly is a normalfag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328278
A decision to stay inside and withdraw from society isn't Japan specific, weeb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328283
Anyone who pursues social interaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328282
That's a foam mattress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328285
That has nothing at all to do with what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328295
THANKS FOR THE TIP I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAD FIGURED THAT ONE OUT YET

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328287
That's too broad, this is technically social interaction. It's anyone who has had sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328283

You don't need to understand

Btw this thread is full of retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328291
>Hikikomori (ひきこもり or 引き籠もり Hikikomori?, literally "pulling inward, being confined", i.e., "acute social withdrawal") is a Japanese term to refer to the phenomenon of reclusive adolescents or young adults who withdraw from social life, often seeking extreme degrees of isolation and confinement.

Hikikomori are youth who withdraw from society and isolate themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328298
That also has nothing at all to do with what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328299

my pleasure

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328287
Everyone on this board is doing that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328294
That is retarded. If you have sex as a teenager then shut yourself in your room watching anime and posting on /jp/ for the next 3 years after that you aren't very "normal."

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328303
please go normie

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328302
/jp/ is an entire house of normalfags. Most Japanese hikikomori don't even use the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328303
It's normal for people to have very lazy lives when they just got out of high school. They'll get jobs eventually, that doesn't just their normality. They fact that they had sex proves how aggressive they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328306
I'm glad we agree that hikikomori are youths who choose to withdraw from society, and that it is not a syndrome. Go ahead and provide concrete evidence to the contrary or your response is invalid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328210
Look at OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328303
You will never be pure again. You will be a normal forever until you die, no matter what you do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328283

A derogatory term used to insult the antithesis of most internet dwellers. Normalfags are typically people who enjoy mainstream things and live typical, ignorant, mundane lives. Some of the most common normalfag traits are ignorance to internet culture and underground media such as less well known music, anime, or video games. Additionally, they often and vehemently reject obscure sub-cultures, fetishes, life styles, and anything they simply do not understand and like. Lastly, normalfags are known to have or desire a normal social life. There are four primary uses for the word. The first is to insult a persons ignorance while simultaneously calling them out on their shallow and banal personality. The second is to insult the pathetic appearance of a person who complains that they want but do not have a normal lifestyle. The third is for the most part a petty stab at a person for having a social life and/or girlfriend. Lastly, the first and third example can overlap if the alleged normalfag is trolling or generally being an ass by flaunting their social life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328316
I said that only Western "hikikomori" think that way. You have yet to disagree. I'm glad we were able to come to this conclusion together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328316
Please provide any research at all that states that hikikomori is not a syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328315
*adjust

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328317

/a/ would shoot this down and the mod would delete no problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328298
You're really misunderstanding him.

Maybe technically a person might just decide to not go outside. But this is not a typical reason that a Japanese hikikomori withdraws. Their withdrawal is a result of the Japanese culture they live in.

Still, I don't think that it's impossible for other countries to have hikikomori whose reasons for withdrawl are the same as a Japanese hikikomori's reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328323
That's not how burden of proof works, you are making the claim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328331
Cultural pressure causes them to make the conscious choice to become a hikikomori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328317
The OP has the word "otaku" in it. Thus, it is /jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328327
There's objective medical evidence that lack of a social life is physically harmful.


Calling NEET lifestyle unhealthy is objective medical fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328331
>Their withdrawal is a result of the Japanese culture they live in.

No, it's the result of their addiction to their recreational hobbies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327771

I consider myself a hobbyist. If exclusively all I did was watch/read anime, read manga, play jrpg's and visual novels, and work, the I'd consider myself legitimately an otaku. Though I use the word as more of a shortcut word in conversation with acquaintances if they even have knowledge of what an otaku even is:

-"describe yourself, anon?"
-"I'm an otaku skating metalhead that likes science, nature and DnD, in recovery from drug addiction"
-"whats an otaku? and did you say addiction?"
-
A.)"<detailed explaination>"
B.)"nevermind"
C.)"I have a lot of hobbies"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328349

I bet you meet a lot of edgy people that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328345
If everyone was healthy, the healthcare industry would not be making any money. Your argument means nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328343
When interviews, very few suggest that they at any point consciously made a decision to become a hikikomori. Every day they may make a decision not to go outside (just as they may also make a decision not to kill themselves,) but many of them didn't decide at a given point that they should withdraw from society, and then withdraw. It is more as if it is something that happened to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328338
Multiple research papers referring to hikimokori as a "syndrome"

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,11&q=hikikomori+syndrome

Please provide any research at all that says hikikomori is not a syndrome. I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328348
Please provide any research at all which comes to that conclusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328349

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328348
There are plenty of hikikomori out there who aren't particularly obsessed with anything.

[Anonymous No.]

GUYS! Stop arguing.

This will clarify everything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RooegHMXFg

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328363
What the fuck is wrong with you? They made a decision not to leave the house and stay inside because it's nicer on the internet. You are making it out to be this super unique sort of thing, when it's not.

Hikikomori simply realize that an imaginary world is much better than the real one could ever be. Now, they could have some other mental disorders that caused them to think that way, but social isolation itself is not a syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get a girl to suck my dick? I want to see what it's like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328395
Ask your mom to suck it for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328386
>They made a decision not to leave the house and stay inside because it's nicer on the internet.
When hikikomori are asked about why they do what they do, few speak of it as a conscious decision they made. They tend to speak of it more as if it were something that happened to them.

>You are making it out to be this super unique sort of thing, when it's not.
I have yet to describe it as "super unique." Please stop putting words in my mouth.

>Now, they could have some other mental disorders that caused them to think that way, but social isolation itself is not a syndrome.
They almost always do, which is why people speak of it as a syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328395

Quit being a turbo nerd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328395
Suck your own

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328386
It sounds like you're ignoring actual evidence and research so that you can feel like your own decisions are shared with Japanese hikikomori, when in fact they are not. Your view of hikikomori is factually incorrect, and both Japanese hikikomori and researchers would both tell you so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328412
>When hikikomori are asked about why they do what they do, few speak of it as a conscious decision they made. They tend to speak of it more as if it were something that happened to them.

That's because most of the time it wasn't a sudden "Hey, I think I'll be come a fucking shut-in!", it was more of a gradual "The outside world is hell, I don't want to go out, I'll stay inside today.". Then fast forward a couple years of weighing the pros and cons, and they are a full-on hikikomori.

>I have yet to describe it as "super unique." Please stop putting words in my mouth.

Stop describing them as if they are a sort of mythical creature and I won't.

>They almost always do, which is why people speak of it as a syndrome.

If they have other mental disorders that cause them to isolate themselves, then those specific disorder can be looked at as a potential cause. That doesn't mean that the effects of said disorders are a syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328417
It sounds like you've failed to provide concrete factual evidence that proves the existence of this syndrome. All you have posted are random articles that say "hey, a group of people are doing a certain thing, it's almost like they have a syndrome."

There is no psychological basis nor concrete testing that leads to the conclusion that this syndrome exists.

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone here is an otaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328430
>most of the time it wasn't a sudden "Hey, I think I'll be come a fucking shut-in!", it was more of a gradual "The outside world is hell, I don't want to go out, I'll stay inside today.". Then fast forward a couple years of weighing the pros and cons, and they are a full-on hikikomori.

this sounds like me

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328430
>That's because most of the time it wasn't a sudden "Hey, I think I'll be come a fucking shut-in!", it was more of a gradual "The outside world is hell, I don't want to go out, I'll stay inside today." Then fast forward a couple years of weighing the pros and cons, and they are a full-on hikikomori.
I doubt very many of them actually weigh the pros and cons. Or if they do, they stack up a whole bunch on the "don't be a shut-in" side (parental disappointment, no money, unsustainable, lonely) and almost none on the "be a shut-in" side and then stay inside anyway.


>Stop describing them as if they are a sort of mythical creature and I won't.
I haven't done this. Please stop making shit up.

>If they have other mental disorders that cause them to isolate themselves, then those specific disorder can be looked at as a potential cause. People generally refer to the mental disorder and the phenomenon interchangeably simply because they almost always occur together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328361

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328430
>That's because most of the time it wasn't a sudden "Hey, I think I'll be come a fucking shut-in!", it was more of a gradual "The outside world is hell, I don't want to go out, I'll stay inside today." Then fast forward a couple years of weighing the pros and cons, and they are a full-on hikikomori.
I doubt very many of them actually weigh the pros and cons. Or if they do, they stack up a whole bunch on the "don't be a shut-in" side (parental disappointment, no money, unsustainable, lonely) and almost none on the "be a shut-in" side and then stay inside anyway.

Yes, you can say that they decided to be hikikomori because they made a series of decisions that ended up that way, but it's like saying that people simply decide to become crack addicts. They may decide to go down to the dealer every week, but putting it that simply is highly misleading.

>Stop describing them as if they are a sort of mythical creature and I won't.
I haven't done this. Please stop making shit up.

>If they have other mental disorders that cause them to isolate themselves, then those specific disorder can be looked at as a potential cause.
People generally refer to the mental disorder and the phenomenon interchangeably simply because they almost always occur together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328445
I provided a link to multiple research papers that you can read here: >>10328357

Still awaiting a response from the "anti-syndrome" faction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328452
Otaku purity test: http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~belgin/otaku.html

How otaku is /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328453
>I doubt

That's a nice opinion.

>they stack up a whole bunch on the "don't be a shut-in" side (parental disappointment, no money, unsustainable, lonely) and almost none on the "be a shut-in" side and then stay inside anyway.

If they didn't perceive a life in isolation to be better than one inside, whether consciously or subconsciously, they wouldn't be isolated. Go read up on hikikomori, most aren't super desperate to be normalfags. They do it because it's what they enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

Would a Japanophile or shut-in be a probable title?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328474
It would probably be better to find a test that wasn't written more than a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328470
>That's a nice opinion.
I don't have access to the inside of their heads while they are doing so, so of course, I can only speculate, as can you.

>If they didn't perceive a life in isolation to be better than one inside, whether consciously or subconsciously, they wouldn't be isolated.
They may do so subconsciously but disagree consciously. Or the other way around. So?

>Go read up on hikikomori, most aren't super desperate to be normalfags. They do it because it's what they enjoy.
Please suggest me some reading, as almost everything I've read suggests the contrary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328483
>Please suggest me some reading, as almost everything I've read suggests the contrary.

He's full of shit and has ignored the actual research I have provided. He hasn't read anything on the subject.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328481
a single quality episode of any anime is over a gig.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328483
>>10328485
please don't respond to yourself, it's the sign of a serious syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328487
Provided it's encoded competently it's close but not quite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328487
That was my point. The test page says it was written in 1997.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328490
I'm sorry. I have multiple personality disorder. It's a real problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328487
Most are 200-300 MB for DVD quality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328512
DVD a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328515
Anything higher than DVD isn't worth the bandwidth for the minute quality increase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328515
Even BD's aren't more more than 600 MB per episode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328530
Depends on the encoding. I have some that are over 2 gb per episode.

[Anonymous No.]

Otaku is to be enthusiast about something. Please do not misuse language of Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328541
That's some horrible encoding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328549
Get a load of this, weeb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328541
Did they like encode every frame as a bitmap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328529
It sucks that people don't seed lots of DVD stuff on Animebytes. Everyone gets Bluray.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328549
I'm a dick otaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328561
Use Tokyo Toshokan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328553
>>10328563
Allegedly Italian BDs are higher quality. I really don't care, data is cheap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328570
>meguca

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328562
That's very interesting. Do you suck dicks or just collect them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328570
In the time it took for you to download that one episode, you could have the entire series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328570
Is that subbed? If so, please kill yourself out of /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328579
It should only take 2.5 seconds to download that unless you have really shitty internet.

[Anonymous No.]

any good 10 bit encode is over 1GB per episode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328591
>eating shit multiple times and never learning from your mistakes

Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328580
I'm sure most of /jp/ doesn't speak Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328579
I've already watched madoka twice. I downloaded it to watch a third time and I wanted to have the best quality imaginable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328595
I really fucking like madoka dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328591
Why do you delete it after you've watched it? That's like throwing out a DVD after you've watched it once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328590
if you can't even at least understand a kid's book you must kill yourself out of /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328581
Usually you only get 1 MB per second max on torrents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328597
No I had the eps when it was airing, then standard bds and recently I replaced them with these.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328608
No one cares weeb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328597]
Old habits from when I didn't have a terabyte hard drive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328581
South Koreans have the fastest internet in the world.

The average south korean would take over 10 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328621
koreans are pig dogs

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328605
That blows, I get around 2 MB/s and I have "shitty" internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328621

Not to mention, they are fucking fast when gaming. I've seen them play a Starcraft match, it was like they are smashing the keyboard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328635
Fascinating/

[Anonymous No.]

More than 10 years ago, I proudly called myself an otaku, but I've since come to realize how stupid that is. I guess you could say I've grown up.
If I had no other interests, and devoted nearly every waking moment to something otaku-like, then maybe I'd be comfortable with the title, but I can't say I have no other interests. Calling myself otaku is simply fraudulent.
I really need to shake off the vestiges of those years and come to grips with reality. I'm sick of having the word otaku in my email address and having people address me personally as an otaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328630
My maximum speed is supposedly 50 megabits per second. That's 6 megabytes, right? They only time I ever got close to that is if I was using direct download.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328648

Did you actually use an email address containing the word "otaku" for personal correspondence?

[Anonymous No.]

I call myself a truNEET.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328648
Who the fuck refers to you as an otaku "personally?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328725
Me mum does m8ty I tell you wot.

[Anonymous No.]

I took a shit in a corner of my room only because I always wanted to. NEET-O

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327937
you're just autistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328758
I've always wondered, how many people here actually take the whole "truNEET I piss in bottles and live in a dumpster and normal people are disgusting" thing seriously?

If it's a joke, it's a pretty convincing one, /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328810
I piss in a jug but I dump it out and rinse it every two days or when it starts to smell. I think this is pretty normal though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328861


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[Anonymous No.]

>>10328861
what's the reasoning behind that?
just laziness? why not go to the bathroom and not have to go through the trouble of rinsing the jug out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328810
I piss in bottles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328861
watta fuk man

[Anonymous No.]

>>1032888
It started because I hated going out of my room and hearing the voices of people visiting (mainly my mother), but now nobody really visits anymore so it's mostly laziness now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328894
I piss in bottles and coke cans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328950

The problem with coke cans is that, in my experience at least, I could fill up two of them in one go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328958
The problem for me is that it's hard to piss in the smaller hole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328861
And I say normal because it's basically a chamber pot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamber_pot

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327771
I consider myself to be a self employed man in his 30s who enjoys anime and visual novels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328487
>Coalgirls

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327771
In my OPPINION, those two labels are basically the same. However, ONE tend to actually have some actual knowledge/experience of what they are talking about. Sadly they place themselves on an high pedistal above others as a result.

I have no preference to what people call me, its just my interests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327771
I don't Identify as anything.

My hobby is reading manga, watching anime and playing a few games. Why should I feel the need to label myself because of it?

It annoys the fuck out of me to hear people I know call me or themselves "Otaku."

[Anonymous No.]

>>10333940

sounds like ur a bit of a fuckin otaku to me mate. go back to watching your anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327771
fucking crossboarders

[Anonymous No.]

>>10333981
Stop spamming your meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327771
A loli.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, "weeaboo" used to be a funny joke on /b/ until it became spammed to death and a "meme," now its use is a pretty sure sign that whoever you're dealing with is a 'tard.

And "otaku" in the west was always a misuse.

So is "neither" a choice?

I'm a fan, not a stereotype held by retards, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.]

I call myself an otaku. Specifically I'm an anime,video game and idol otaku. I could use nerd or geek but my hobby is predominantly Japanese and "Otaku" has a nice ring to it.

I'm okay with the stigma and I hope it sticks because that means I don't have to deal with normalfags invading my hobbies and shit like Big Bang Theory.

Also Shizuha is slowly becoming my favorite Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10334195
Buttdevastated weeaboo detected.
Ching chong go nibble on your pocky.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't I just call myself an animefag? On 4chan at least. I guess "fag" is another one of those words that's losing its meaning.

[Anonymous No.]

There is no appropriate term we all agree on.

[Anonymous No.]

At least I'm a nerd. I hope that word hasn't changed its meaning lately, I haven't paid attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10334315
It's cool to be a nerd now.
Isn't that peachy? You're cool now. WE'RE cool now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10334315
I have some bad news for you.

Nerd/geek now means you wear lens-less hipster glasses, watch Big-bang Theory and spend your time going to college parties (It's nerdy because it's college).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10334315
when will reclusive behaviour become trendy?

or I guess nobody would even notice anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10334333
When the next gen of consoles consoles come out.

Video games are already popular and considered a "non-lame" thing to do these days. Now that everything want's to be a part of Fagbook, it's only a matter of time before consoles join in on this shit.
Soon you'll be hearing people say "I stayed home this weekend to play games. I'm so reclusive~"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10334330
>>10334347
epic images

[Anonymous No.]

>>10334333
when u sugged ur moms dig shitnerg

[Anonymous No.]

Epic crossboarder pandering, janiturd.

[Anonymous No.]

Neither, though otaku is preferred as that is at least more accurate.

Captcha: continues eatquote

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328966
Get a funnel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327785
Because your thread is shit, and if you don't know the major difference between otaku and weaboo, you should lurk the fuck more instead of shitting up /jp/ with your shit thread.

Also, this is /jp/ we don't care what society label is hip and cool. We don't talk to people who cares about those thing, we just enjoy cute little girls. We don't care wether you call us otaku or weaboo, as long as you don't talk to us and stay the fuck away. We don't like you, we don't care for you.

Also weeaboo is a term made up to describe 13 year old with a narto headband that wishes he was born japanese, has undergone procedure to legaly changes his name to "Kenichi" and wears maid clothes irl because "that's how they dress up in japan" and spends his day making AMV with dir en gray and linking park as bgm.

But if you used the fucking google instead of making your shit thread, you would have realised all of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10334548
>We don't care wether you call us otaku or weaboo

You are so wrong.

Also, calm down buddy. You are trying too hard!

[Anonymous No.]

Dunno, don't care

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a 4chan level otaku. I don't talk with you chumps in anime club, I don't read your "anime magazine" with new releases I saw two years ago. I don't need to go to a club full of fat smelly people to watch Full Metal Alchemist all over again. I've got fuckin' live feed torrents of the newest animes you haven't even hear of, and figures from said anime being shipped to my house so I can masturbate on them. Go read your "yowie" on fanfiction.net, I'm downloading loli dojinshi and reading the fucking raws.
You keep wearing your naruto headbands and shit, socializing with your weeaboo friends. I'll be walking by, Anonymous. You'll never know that the master of anime had passed you by, because I suppress my power level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327771
casual fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>10334771
Weeaboo like that still exist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10327981

they don't. you can't suddenly "become" a female just because you would like to

born a man = man
born a woman = woman
FOREVER. NO CHANGES.

born intersex = monster, crime against nature

[Anonymous No.]

>>10335923
born intersex = mutant, possible new evolutionary step. evolution works through mutations within repetition.

you don't know how to nature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10334548
>weeaboo is a term made up to describe...

No it's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10335923
>you can't suddenly "become" a female just because you would like to

But you can. Well, not suddenly, but the further the medicine progresses, the easier it will get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10335943

You're still a man forever. Being a woman isn't just cutting your dick off or wearing a dress. It's not an outfit you just put on because you need more attention.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm neither weeb nor otaku, i'm just a guy who happens to like japanese stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10328595
Whoa, awesome abuse of the quoting function! Now i know that you're not of this place, and are an arrogant ret/a/rd, thanks!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10336130
get out, tryhard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10336130
Most obnoxious post of the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10336130
Good intent, poor execution.
Keep trying my friend

[Anonymous No.]

> weeaboo
But I'm not white
> otaku
If only people know what is the origin of this word.
> What do you consider yourself to be?
Geek, maybe inclining towards nerdy.