No koishi thread? lets fix that!

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Anonymous Thu Jan 3 08:59:54 2013 No.10308980 [Reply] [Original]

No koishi thread? lets fix that!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 09:12:54 2013 No.10309012 File: 107 KB, 600x600, a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Excellent

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 09:15:09 2013 No.10309023 File: 306 KB, 600x700, 1338511543064.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What a lovely girl.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 09:28:24 2013 No.10309076 File: 405 KB, 654x800, 16960368.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Koishi-samaaaaaa~❤

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 09:42:10 2013 No.10309131 What is psychological term for over-subconsciousness(?) and lack of will & emotion?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 09:44:24 2013 No.10309134 File: 201 KB, 603x550, 1352188106669.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] One of my favorite Touhous.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 09:56:39 2013 No.10309170 >>10309131 autism

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 10:10:54 2013 No.10309228 Koishi literally has no personality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 10:12:09 2013 No.10309232 File: 114 KB, 592x828, 7773650.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10309228 But she has nice legs.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 10:23:39 2013 No.10309261
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>>10309228
Koishi is the prime example of touhou with better fanon personality than canon one.
LIEBE Koishi (especially after fusion with Yukari, fucking greatest idea ever) > tragic girl searching her path in life (At Chirei, Pure Jade Anthocyanin etc) > eromame's pervy Koishi > any other fanon personality >>> canon mindless animal without any emotions

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 10:31:24 2013 No.10309272 Best hat I want her hat I love it so much

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 10:31:39 2013 No.10309273 >>10309261 She is not a mindless animal. She just in state of nirvana. No will or desire. A buddhist monk wetdream they worked hard and long to strife it yet never archive it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 10:32:39 2013 No.10309277 File: 157 KB, 800x800, 2009-12-09-222193.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love her! Too bad I'll have to hide this thread to avoid seeing liebe koishi or lewd Koishi pictures

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 10:34:09 2013 No.10309283 >>10309261 Fuck you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 10:34:10 2013 No.10309280 >>10309228 She has some personality, especially after SA, when she began to open up to Marisa. She also obviously is cheerful and happy, so I'd consider that her personality even though it may not be on a completely conscious level.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 10:39:09 2013 No.10309289 >>10309261 Get blasted shitnerd, canon Koishi is not a mindless animal Koishi will never come to play with you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 10:45:24 2013 No.10309305 File: 56 KB, 474x349, koishi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ignorance is bliss. Having no mind to worry about must be nice. I wanna know how it feels

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 10:55:54 2013 No.10309332
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>>10309289
Denial. She was described as such in SoPM.
And I wouldn't like to play with her anyway. In SA she threatened to kill Reimu (or Marisa? I don't remember) and put her head above the gate of Palace of the Earth Spirits. I don't like playing with insane butcherer (by the way this makes Koishi's personality in KKHTA pretty close to canon. I don't get why some people like >>10309277 are so afraid of LIEBE pictures).
>>10309305
Ignorance is despicable

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 11:01:54 2013 No.10309354

>>10309332
> I don't get why some people like >>10309277 are so afraid of LIEBE pictures
Because they are a prime example of fanon taking a single hint for a trait and blowing it out of proportion like sadist Yuuka and slut Sanae.
It's fucking stupid and not nearly close to canon

She was described as having no conscious mind in SOPM, that's all.
That doesn't means she is crazy.
That doesn't means she is violent.
That doesn't means that she can unconsciously be a nice person since she can obviously talk and even take care of pets

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 11:04:09 2013 No.10309361 >>10309332 >Denial. She was described as such in SoPM. Nope. You are distoring what was there so it can fit your preconceptions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 11:04:39 2013 No.10309360 >>10309354 >That doesn't means that she can unconsciously Meant to say "That doesn't means she can't". Pictures of lewd or LIEBE Koishi make me angry to the point where I want to punch my screen and rip out your beating heart

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 11:17:09 2013 No.10309403 File: 622 KB, 669x664, 1356823078482.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All of you calm yo tits, remember, Koishi is love

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 11:17:09 2013 No.10309404 File: 472 KB, 850x700, img.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wonder if she'll become playable in the upcoming game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 11:34:30 2013 No.10309477 >>10309403 I can't see it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 11:38:24 2013 No.10309495 File: 128 KB, 599x598, 1322535671658.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I thought the idea was that she doesn't act too weird, but there's no real thought processes inside her head, and that's what makes her disturbing.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 11:54:24 2013 No.10309556 File: 99 KB, 400x400, dda12c1f89d11313f8e7746f96d0f84fdf97b175.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10309495 You really expect fanon to have thoughts beyond "SHE SAID SHE WANTS TO KILL REIMU!THAT MUST MEAN SHE'S A SADISTIC INSANE MURDERER!" ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 11:57:39 2013 No.10309565 >>10309556 Secondaries are literally autistic, then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:00:09 2013 No.10309573 KOOOOOOOOISHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:01:09 2013 No.10309578 File: 1.10 MB, 1000x1000, a3e380209b98060baa8e20a977a7f1de.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Koi is the best shi

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:07:25 2013 No.10309592 Sometimes I like to set up scenarios in my head and watch them play out, and the other day I saw Koishi in one of these. Not that she was a highlight or an afterthought, just that after it had begun, I suppose, she just kind of walked by.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:13:55 2013 No.10309611
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>>10309354
>Because they are a prime example of fanon taking a single hint for a trait and blowing it out of proportion
As I said before, it's still better than almost no personality at all in canon. I cannot enjoy cute art of cute girl if there is nothing behind this character.
>That doesn't means she is crazy.
I didn't say she is crazy. In fact if you watched KKHTA, you would know that Koishi is not crazy there as well. The idea is a lot deeper than 'lol insane Koishi murdering everyone'. I strongly recommend to watch all the translated episodes. Author of KKHTA actually loves Koishi so much more than you do. Through Yukari he gives back Koishi her heart, she regains some of her feelings, she starts to feel bad about cruel things she had done before. The story is far from finished, but you will be ale to see the path of lessons author is preparing for Koishi. KKHTA has so much more potential and actual developemnt than canonical one sentence in her profile about 'meeting a special person'.
>That doesn't means she is violent.
>That doesn't means that she can't unconsciously be a nice person since she can obviously talk and even take care of pets
Beheading someone is not something a nice person does. She CAN be violent. And that is canon. Not because she is crazy, but because she has no mind to understand what's good and what's bad. Have you ever heard about violence among children? Canon Koishi is just like kids from the Lord of the Flies.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:14:25 2013 No.10309612

>>10309611
(cont'd)
And she indeed has little to no conscious mind. Pets? We have never seen them. And we don't know how exactly does Koishi cares about them. 'Kamisama, onegai, install lasors into my dog' is not display of great love. In fact it's the opposite. It's a stupid children fad that will more likely hurt the pet. It's canon that Koishi cannot feel love. I wonder if all Koishi's pets were presented to her by her sister and it's Satori who actually feeds and cares about them.
Also you forgot the argument that 'mindless people can't create spellcards'. If Byakuren and Miko had 6-7 spellcards five minutes after they had woke up then anyone can create them. Besides maybe she had created them before she closed her eye.
>>10309556
You are not different. 'I would disregard that dialogue because I believe my fav 2hu is a good girl and cannot kill people ;_;'.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:14:55 2013 No.10309615 >>10309578 Koishi is oishii

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:15:10 2013 No.10309621 >>10309611 taslate it weboos

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:15:55 2013 No.10309619 >>10309612 I don't know about you, but I would like my dog a HELL of a lot more if he had lasers and could fly, especially if he was also big enough to ride on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:17:10 2013 No.10309628 >>10309621 http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/692841

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:33:55 2013 No.10309671 File: 458 KB, 1000x750, 2bdefdf5f156b38f783fbdfb029ada38.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Koishi is only good in combination with her sister. Without her she is... Wait. Who was I talking about, again?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:34:40 2013 No.10309679 >>10309671 Silly Anonymous, Koishi is the best SA.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:37:25 2013 No.10309689 File: 497 KB, 600x900, 27164816.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10309679 Who?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:38:10 2013 No.10309691 >>10309689 You know I am right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:39:55 2013 No.10309699 File: 854 KB, 1000x814, c03bce9cc0b8cb96e5a8b503d1c58073.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10309671 It's nice seeing Koishi with Orin and Okuu too! They're a happy family. Happy families are best when together.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:40:25 2013 No.10309701 File: 120 KB, 615x800, fe28c84c0d9b35a11218a04cf842ebce.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10309691 I don't know who you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:41:40 2013 No.10309708 >>10309671 That Koishi face looks familiar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:41:55 2013 No.10309710 Not liking all the Komeiji family members almost equally? You sadden me /jp/.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:43:10 2013 No.10309714
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>>10309611
>Through Yukari he gives back Koishi her heart,
Why is that a good thing?
She is alot happier this way.
Running away isn't shameful, she wanted to be happy and run away from something she didn't want in the first place
>Pets? We have never seen them. And we don't know how exactly does Koishi cares about them.
It's right there in her profile
> wonder if all Koishi's pets were presented to her by her sister and it's Satori who actually feeds and cares about them.
Read her profile and you'll notice that it obviously isn't like that since taking care of her pets gave her a bit of a purpose and enabled her to open up again
>Beheading someone is not something a nice person does
When did she do that?
She just talked about it which is really nothing special in Gensokyo where everyone always says "I'm gonna eat you" before a danmaku duel in a sportmanship way.
She can be as violent as every other youkai if you provoke her.
>You are not different. 'I would disregard that dialogue because I believe my fav 2hu is a good girl and cannot kill people ;_;'.
If there were serious hints that she was more violent or murderous than the rest of Gensokyo I'd accept it.
But there aren't
She simply wanders around with not much on her mind and "minds" her own business.
She never has shown any acts of aggression beyond that danmaku duel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:43:40 2013 No.10309718 >>10309710 I could not even pretend to hold such a belief.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:44:10 2013 No.10309721 >>10309710 What is there to like about Satori?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:47:25 2013 No.10309732 >>10309721 A lot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:47:40 2013 No.10309733 >>10309732 Name one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:48:25 2013 No.10309735 >>10309733 She loves and is kind to animals.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:50:10 2013 No.10309741 >>10309735 What if I do not like animals?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:50:25 2013 No.10309742 >>10309735 Lame as fuck. That's something most do as well. What else?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:51:55 2013 No.10309747 >>10309742 I named a perfectly valid good trait of her as you requested. But since you are so adamant about hating her I see no point in continuing this discussion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:53:00 2013 No.10309760 >>10309747 So that's all there is, I see. Seems she lacks reasons for being liked. Very well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:53:25 2013 No.10309754 >>10309742 She is a true /jp/sie. She is a shut-in because she knows how harsh the rest of the world is. One of us!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:54:45 2013 No.10309763 >>10309754 Pretty sure she goes out to parties with the her pets, no? Flan or Koishi would be a better representative.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:54:45 2013 No.10309765 File: 715 KB, 1349x1049, 27555833.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Koishi is funny to hang out with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 12:57:45 2013 No.10309778 >>10309760 More like you are simply blind to her appeal and only are going to refute every point I make about her, like you already have.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:00:30 2013 No.10309791 >>10309778 Wrong. I'm more than willing to hear reasons. It's just that yours was poor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:21:10 2013 No.10309881 >>10309714 Verbal aggression is still aggression.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:21:10 2013 No.10309882 File: 432 KB, 768x1100, 01e20c33b7b598f2c3f064a0cd75730e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Satori is a monster. She deserves do die.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:23:10 2013 No.10309885 >>10309882 You're just afraid that she'll find out your secrets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:23:40 2013 No.10309887 >>10309881 Then why is Cirno never portrayed as a insane monster who goes around and kills people by freezing them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:24:56 2013 No.10309893 File: 196 KB, 1355x1200, ec39da17619e6feb28f5ca81c9f38c2f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10309885 She will be mortified if she reads my mind. I, on the other hand, don't care. I'm used to my mind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:25:56 2013 No.10309896 >>10309887 Then why is not a single youkai portrayed hunting and eating humans (mostly outsiders) even if we know for sure that happens a lot in Genoskyo?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:26:41 2013 No.10309900 >>10309887 She already freezes frogs. Everybody knows she is a murderer already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:27:11 2013 No.10309902 >>10309896 Because main characters need to be sympathetic, or else people will stop being attracted to them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:27:56 2013 No.10309905 >>10309896 Because they are just outsiders, they aren't worth anything. They are basicly just kettle

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:36:41 2013 No.10309936

>>10309791
Satori is very polite and well mannered unlike all other touhous who first attack and then say 'hi'. She even offered Reimu tea first time she met her. How many other examples of hospitality in Gensokyo do you know?
She loves her pets (as >>10309735 already said) and truly cares about her sister.
She is hated by the world, but at the same time she does not hate anyone. Satori deserves a lot of hugs.
Using current spellcard rules she is canonically the strongest danmaku fighter in Gensokyo. Check this out:
>*The first party to use all of their spell cards must admit defeat.
Satori has almost unlimited amount of spellcards since she can use any of them that her enemy remember (typical scenario in SA), her enemy saw, but already forgot (Aya scenario in DS), or Satori saw at least once (Hatate scenario in DS).
Classy as fuck music theme.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:36:56 2013 No.10309937 >>10309905 That's not true. Outsiders are well valued in Gensokyo, for the new knowledge and stuff they bring to the table.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:38:41 2013 No.10309944

>>10309937
Maybe to fellow humans, but to youkai they are nothing more than meat.
Also there isn't much knowledge left you can bring into Gensokyo unless you are some sort of scientist.
Gensokyo is actually quite knowledgeable about the outside world and soccer started getting popular there

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:41:26 2013 No.10309956 File: 1.33 MB, 1240x1753, 26995570.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10309936 >Satori deserves a lot of hugs. What makes you think she'd want a hug from someone such as you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:44:11 2013 No.10309968 >>10309956 He could force it on her. Maybe he will pt her somewhere and do his best to take care of her until she falls in love with him or something. I wonder if that would work on a mindreader.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:45:41 2013 No.10309970 >>10309765 What is she doing?

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:46:11 2013 No.10309974
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>>10309968
If all you thought about was how much you love her, all the time, it might instil the idea into her head through sheer repetition. Something like (actual) hypnosis and psychological suggestion. You would need to focus on the repetition very strongly though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:48:11 2013 No.10309982 >>10309974 Unfortunately, I do not find her charming enough for such things, but I wish him fair fortune in his endeavors.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:50:11 2013 No.10309986 File: 260 KB, 800x640, b886db3032f73be25faaa556f4e3f2ee.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whee

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:51:26 2013 No.10309989 >>10309944 >Maybe to fellow humans, but to youkai they are nothing more than meat. I don't believe it. Youkai are people too; they vary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:52:41 2013 No.10309992 File: 43 KB, 327x365, 12553841544331.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10309968 >>10309974 >>10309982 Brainwashing Satori is definitely not ok. No, not even if it's for the sake of love.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:53:11 2013 No.10309996 >>10309989 Why should anyone care about outside world humans? There are too many of them anyways and most of them are cruel

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:53:56 2013 No.10310003 >>10309992 But if he feels honest affection for her, he should be allowed to do right by that as he can.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:56:11 2013 No.10310008 >>10309996 Are you calling me cruel? I'll rip your head off, man.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:56:41 2013 No.10310010
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>>10309974
>>10309982
All I want is happiness for Satori. My love is not strong enough to kill myself and get into Gensokyo.
And I would bless her wedding if she found strong independent youkai/human who loves her very much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:57:56 2013 No.10310016 File: 124 KB, 850x663, 1269379128709.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310003 No. Even if you love her, that doesn't give you the right to play with and enslave her as you please.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:58:26 2013 No.10310020 File: 97 KB, 623x500, 16369696.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310010 Why does none of those pillows say "No"? Are you trying to say she has no choice?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:58:41 2013 No.10310022 >>10310010 If you really wanted her to be happy, you would do your best to ensure her happiness yourself. >>10310016 But we just covered it would require a goodly amount of effort and considerable, honest intention.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:59:11 2013 No.10310027 File: 332 KB, 779x580, satori one more time....jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310020 They're her pillows. She doesn't have the "No" pillows out because...well, I think you can figure it out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 13:59:26 2013 No.10310023 File: 843 KB, 1000x1016, 25429433_p6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310016 Why should I need such a right? Not having it won't stop me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:01:11 2013 No.10310029 File: 756 KB, 951x1206, 22448223.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310027 Because she knows it's inevitable?

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:03:11 2013 No.10310036
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>>10310020
>>10310027
Actually those pillows says YES on one side and NO on the other. This way you can use only one set of pillows instead of two. Convenient, isn't it?

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:03:26 2013 No.10310037
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>>10310022
That doesn't matter. The mind is a sacred thing; playing with the minds of others is a terrible thing to do. Effort and honesty don't excuse it.

Look at >>10310023's picture. This is what it means to brainwash someone. Maybe whatever you have in mind wouldn't appear so messy, but under all the flowery intentions, it would still be the same.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:05:42 2013 No.10310047

>>10310037
Right, the mind is a sacred thing, and playing with the minds of others is an honest affair to be undertaken only by people most certain of their goal, a pure thing that needs no excuse save to reach that goal. Whether of abuse or affection, it is indeed a serious, and satisfying, matter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:05:57 2013 No.10310048 File: 489 KB, 800x706, cat satori isn't very good at seduction.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310029 Because she loves the guy she's showing them too and wants to sleep with him. It's certainly not you. >>10310036 Oh. Right. Duh.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:08:27 2013 No.10310054
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>>10310047
It is a serious, satisfying, completely deplorable, utterly evil matter. Whether of abuse or affection, it is one of the worst things you can do to a person.
How can you not understand this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:09:12 2013 No.10310056 >>10310027 It's time to read those liebe books again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:09:27 2013 No.10310057 >>10310054 Because if I am attempting to abuse her, if I hate her, I do not care, and if I am attempting to convey affection, if I find her charming, then it is a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:09:42 2013 No.10310060 File: 418 KB, 800x600, d4ef86a603fcc23c1424777697f06d36.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310054 You do realise that is exactly what Satori's power entails, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:11:12 2013 No.10310065 File: 168 KB, 392x600, 1ebf7a6a59daa5a06e788c052b29a4fc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310060 Satori's power is reading minds, not breaking them to her will. Big difference.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:11:57 2013 No.10310068 >>10310065 She can bring out your biggest traumas. That's pretty brainwashy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:11:57 2013 No.10310070 File: 639 KB, 800x1131, 1323660137022.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310057 What?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:12:12 2013 No.10310072 File: 79 KB, 700x1001, 11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck your satori discussion. Have more Koishi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:13:12 2013 No.10310079 >>10310070 >Whether of abuse or affection, it is one of the worst things you can do to a person. If it is abuse, I do not care, and if it is affection, then it is a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:13:42 2013 No.10310082 File: 1.38 MB, 1400x1477, b92d045649b225c26941e53e9855c919.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310072 Away with you. And take your stinky Koishi with you!

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:13:42 2013 No.10310084
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>>10310068
Sorta. She makes you remember danmaku, then throws it at you. As far as we know, she doesn't make you, say, experience your parent's death again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:13:57 2013 No.10310085 File: 456 KB, 1000x708, 1337007222039.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310072 If you were Koishis pet she'd want you to be nice and a good boy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:15:42 2013 No.10310096 File: 1.92 MB, 1624x1180, 1322480799758.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Komeji household with guests

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:16:42 2013 No.10310101 File: 1.24 MB, 1157x1355, Koishi137.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:16:57 2013 No.10310102 File: 333 KB, 858x1200, 12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310082 >stinky How hypocritical. >>10310085 Probably, but what are you implying

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:16:57 2013 No.10310103

>>10310079
Not caring doesn't make it excusable. You will be stopped.
Affection doesn't make it excusable either. You're talking about totally changing her mind, turning her into someone else while overwriting the old. That's essentially the same as killing her. If you really loved her, you wouldn't even consider eliminating her from the world.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:18:42 2013 No.10310114 File: 215 KB, 600x510, 1274702174582.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All this talk of making her older sister go crazy upsets Koishi. Take it from her, it's really scary to lose your mind!

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:20:13 2013 No.10310122

>>10310103
>You will be stopped.
Then clearly, I did it poorly.

>you wouldn't even consider eliminating her
I never did. Just making her accept us. We will be happy after that, forever.

>>10310114
But that's why Koishi is so very fitting a sight to see; she ran away from her troubles, as do we all. Besides, I already said that I, unfortunately, did not find Satori charming enough and the other guy claimed he would not do so, though I do not believe him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:22:27 2013 No.10310133 File: 234 KB, 945x1949, 1328575686306.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310102 You are a bad boy

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:22:27 2013 No.10310134
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>>10310122
"We" implies inclusion of Satori. This would not be true, as she would be lost, a new mind at the wheel of her body.
We don't need that kind of eternal "happiness."

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:23:42 2013 No.10310137 File: 224 KB, 850x850, 1338317016492.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310122 But she ran to far. So far she doesn't know the way back anymore. No good!

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:24:27 2013 No.10310142

>>10310134
Nonsense. Why would I try to remove the subject if I find her compelling enough to go out on such a limb? No, just to help her understand how happy we will be.

>>10310137
And it is an enviable position in ways. I always wanted to go to Nowhere.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:26:12 2013 No.10310152 File: 551 KB, 800x600, 13.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310133 :(

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:26:27 2013 No.10310153 File: 245 KB, 550x647, 19792b153e8d9ffdecae322eb84a4d32.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310142 No, you don't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:27:42 2013 No.10310165 >>10310153 Nonsense. I believe it was a childhood dream of mine. One of the only such things I can remember.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:28:42 2013 No.10310171 File: 454 KB, 648x906, my koishi can't be this cute.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:29:42 2013 No.10310175 File: 441 KB, 648x906, my koishi still can't be this cute.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:30:27 2013 No.10310183
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>>10310142
You sound really creepy. Stop that.
And running away from all troubles and duties is bad. How can you feel the happiness if you can't feel the sadness?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:30:57 2013 No.10310186 File: 452 KB, 648x906, ok, maybe my koishi can be this cute.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:31:42 2013 No.10310190 File: 381 KB, 648x906, my koishi can be this cute.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:32:13 2013 No.10310197 >>10310183 I do not understand the problem. And I suppose that it can present some problems, but not all difficulties can lead to sufficient, or even any, returns.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:33:12 2013 No.10310202 File: 484 KB, 1277x958, f0abc12479dd95c685c9dfb52f8098f7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310142 Then do it the old fashioned way, without raping her brain.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:33:12 2013 No.10310203
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>>10310137
Name me one good reason why she would one to go back to being hated by everyone and having to hear the hate in her head.
I don't think you know what that would mean.
Imagine walking down a street and you think to yourself "I hope people aren't looking at me for being looking weird."
Don't try to deny it, I know it has happened before.
Now imagine you could hear what everyone really thinks about you.
Imagine you could hear stuff like
"There is that goddamn mindreader, I hope she dies" from every single person on a daily basis

In my opinion Koishi did the right thing for her

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:35:12 2013 No.10310218
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>>10310203
>Name me one good reason why she would one to go back to being hated by everyone and having to hear the hate in her head.
To become a great villain.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:36:12 2013 No.10310222 >>10310202 Yes, one would hope she responds before more drastic measures are taken, but plans must be made and, sometimes, actions taken. I can hardly be faulted for fun things made necessity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:39:57 2013 No.10310232 File: 979 KB, 1361x1100, 37749eac94077fdef5cb1250e533af6b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310222 You make plans like that and she'll know and take offense. It's one or the other.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:41:12 2013 No.10310237 File: 1.69 MB, 2119x3044, 08.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:41:12 2013 No.10310238 >>10310232 If a mind reader is afraid of passing fancies, then perhaps it would already be a neessity, no?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:41:42 2013 No.10310240 >>10310232 Just imagine it. The moment he enters the same room as her she'd know it all and the only word she would say would be "attack" before he gets slaughtered by her pets

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:41:58 2013 No.10310241
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>>10310203
She lost her damn mind. the Koishi you see, or don't see, walk around aimlessly can hardly be called Koishi at all.
She doesn't hear the hate anymore? Cool, but at such a heavy cost, is it worth it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:41:58 2013 No.10310242 >>10310237 wats dis nigga doin

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:42:12 2013 No.10310244

>>10309936
>Using current spellcard rules she is canonically the strongest danmaku fighter in Gensokyo. Check this out:
>>*The first party to use all of their spell cards must admit defeat.
>Satori has almost unlimited amount of spellcards since she can use any of them that her enemy remember (typical scenario in SA), her enemy saw, but already forgot (Aya scenario in DS), or Satori saw at least once (Hatate scenario in DS).

You, sir, are misinformed. Both parties must agree on the number of spellcards they use before the duel. Having an unlimited amount of spellcards doesn't make you stronger in danmaku fight when you are only allowed to use 3.

Also, Koishi said that her sister is bad at fighting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:42:42 2013 No.10310246 File: 193 KB, 640x800, 1634556bb69f1bd80d56e58fea690eb3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310240 >the only word she would say would be "attack" before he gets slaughtered by her pets As expected of a monster.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:42:57 2013 No.10310247 >>10310238 This doesn't sound like any passing fancy to me.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:43:57 2013 No.10310250
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>>10310241
Yes, because she is still a person.
A different person, but far away from a zombie.
I don't understand how people can conclude this if they played the game and read all the canon material about her

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:44:12 2013 No.10310252 File: 156 KB, 850x637, 1271449869201.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310246 Hey, hey, defending yourself is fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:44:42 2013 No.10310255 >>10310247 >>10310252 I presented an opportunity; you applied it. Decry me not for my whims and fancies, if you please, until I choose to take action on them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:45:12 2013 No.10310257 File: 511 KB, 1406x1000, 1272849827090.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310250 >A different person Exactly! So what happened to the original Koishi, huh?

>>	Tom !wE..2CDIWc Thu Jan 3 14:47:12 2013 No.10310263 File: 104 KB, 700x813, 1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] last remote is really cute.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:47:12 2013 No.10310264
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>>10310252
Defending yourself? From what? A thought? That might even turn out some sort of misunderstanding? Or something never realized?

Death by "slaughter" hardly seems a fair retribution for merely a thought.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:47:28 2013 No.10310267
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>>10310255
...point taken.
Satori is not an idiot, though. If you walk into her house with a mind filled with plans to lock her up and break her mind to yours, you can't really blame her for taking action, eh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:47:57 2013 No.10310270 File: 401 KB, 1023x723, 1337004071685.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310257 She changed into the new Koishi. Did you never change in your whole life?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:48:42 2013 No.10310276 >>10310267 To be fair, I have repeatedly stated this is merely a scenario to be molded as you need it, and that I had no interest in Satori one way or another. >>10310257 She got her wish.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:48:57 2013 No.10310279 >>10310264 Just posting to say that I love Satori's butt.

>>	Tom !wE..2CDIWc Thu Jan 3 14:48:57 2013 No.10310280 File: 159 KB, 500x707, 78.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:50:27 2013 No.10310287

>>10310264
She knows pretty damn well just how serious you are with your thoughts.
Who knows maybe she will be as merciful as in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOoztCYFYW4

And actually will try to give you a chance.
But why bother giving you a chance if she sees that it is hopeless?

>>	Tom !wE..2CDIWc Thu Jan 3 14:50:42 2013 No.10310290 File: 129 KB, 600x528, takatora.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:51:57 2013 No.10310297 File: 112 KB, 700x787, 53242d69ba1e05e7637a349c501f75ab.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like to think Satori can tell the difference between a harmless fantasy and malicious plan someone actually intends to act on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:51:57 2013 No.10310298 File: 122 KB, 500x652, Okuupout2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310246 Who's a monster?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:52:57 2013 No.10310302 >>10310297 Think about it this way, though. Maybe one day, when you are desperate to win her over, this conversation will just pop up in your head. It would give you a window of opportunity to act.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:53:12 2013 No.10310304
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>>10310244
>Both parties must agree on the number of spellcards they use before the duel
Still don't see the problem here. It's not stated anywhere that both parties must use the same amount of spellcards. All EX bosses have like 10 spellcards while Reimu uses only one (press X). So basically all Satori should do is to say that she will use (insert any number greater than 100) spellcards. If Reimu doesn't agree with this condition, she can go fuck herself. Satori will be only glad to avoid another pointless fight.
>Also, Koishi said that her sister is bad at fighting.
Quantity beats quality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:54:27 2013 No.10310308 >>10310304 What about Reimu's "Fuck You" spellcard? She has at least one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:54:57 2013 No.10310311 File: 51 KB, 650x610, IMG_0004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why do you have to post lewd pictures? I hate lewd pictures. And all of you aswell!

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:55:27 2013 No.10310317
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>>10310270
I've changed, but see, I kept control of my body and ability to THINK. Koishi didn't, and that's bad.

I don't buy old Koishi turning into new Koishi. New Koishi is all instincts, subconscious, and vague passing whims. Someone acting completely subconsciously is a tough concept to grasp, but...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:56:12 2013 No.10310326 File: 1.96 MB, 1445x2000, aad89fbaf46267b0b7576c56035423e6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310302 Right, but she'd know if I actually would or not.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:57:12 2013 No.10310332
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>>10310317
She regained some of her conscious through opening her eye right?
She now has refound the value of meeting interesting people and opening up to them.
So she must have some kind of free will again.
If she wanted to go back she would work towards doing so, but she doesn't so she must be happier now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:57:57 2013 No.10310329 File: 413 KB, 700x700, 9ee7c6ee834815f0e591c523ffa42da0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310311 But... I like you, anonymous.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:58:27 2013 No.10310335 >>10310326 So you can not afford to waste time dicking around and making total preperations. You have to act fast and go for the gold. I believe in you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:58:42 2013 No.10310338 >>10310304 >If Reimu doesn't agree with this condition, she can go fuck herself. If they can't reach an agreement, then I guess they'll have to do things the old fashioned way, huh? Against Reimu, that is DEFINITELY something most youkai don't want.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:58:42 2013 No.10310339 >>10310329 If you would like me you wouldn't emotionally hurt me by posting such horrid pictures!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 14:59:42 2013 No.10310343 File: 314 KB, 800x930, b72261f3dafef51d75f26501433f3301.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310339 What horrid pictures? I only post nice pictures.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:00:12 2013 No.10310353

>>10310332
Yeah. That, on the other hand, is good. Is it enough free will to act on? Is there enough Koishi there? Does that make sense? I don't know...but it's progress.
Sorry. I so often forget how much Koishi's situation improved immediately after it was introduced.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:00:42 2013 No.10310350 File: 467 KB, 1056x1504, 007 (6).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:00:57 2013 No.10310351 File: 6 KB, 153x109, orinfriend.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310343 Good, we are friends then

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:01:27 2013 No.10310356 File: 664 KB, 946x1000, 32094028.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:02:12 2013 No.10310358 File: 236 KB, 525x700, b5713a3684e3b056b811d3e35ec55cc6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310335 That's not what I meant.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:02:12 2013 No.10310359 >>10310350 Is there more of that Okuu where that came from?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:02:12 2013 No.10310369 File: 167 KB, 556x498, Okuusparkle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310351

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:03:27 2013 No.10310371 File: 985 KB, 900x1259, DANGER! DANGER!.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No! Nooo! Bad Koishi! Bad! Raping your sister is bad! STOP!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:04:57 2013 No.10310377 File: 419 KB, 1000x989, 3582a8eb19a8e40b66ffae811c4ed32b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:05:42 2013 No.10310380 >>10310308 Then Satori has "Recollection Fuck You, too!" >>10310338 'I can't defeat her in fair fight, so I will beat his physically'. Way to go Reimu. That's why you are the worst playable character.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:05:57 2013 No.10310382
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>>10310353
I think people overrate that whole "she has no mind" thing.
Nobody knows how it really is like to have no mind so why do people insist that it is a bad thing?
According to scientists animals have no minds either and yet they can show affection and give you the feeling of being loved.

Knowledge is overrated.Minds are overrated.
I'd be alot happier if I wouldn't have to think about how bad humanity is all the time

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:06:12 2013 No.10310387 File: 100 KB, 850x637, 130782185589.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310382 You'd sacrifice your sentience and thought so easily?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:06:27 2013 No.10310385 >>10310358 It is okay, Anonymous. I have faith in your ability to carry through and accordingly wish you well. Do us all proud, Anonymous.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:07:12 2013 No.10310388 >>10310359 A little bit. It's a strange story.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:07:57 2013 No.10310392 File: 784 KB, 800x1066, 14880801.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310371 >DANGER! DANGER!.jpg ☢CAUTION!!☢CAUTION!!☢

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:08:12 2013 No.10310393 File: 358 KB, 768x1024, 1290971139939.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310387 Why not? What good has it ever been for me?

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:09:12 2013 No.10310398
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>>10310385
Hey. I'm not going to do anything to Satori she wouldn't want.
And I'm talking about THIS Satori, you, not any brainwashed shadow of her former self.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:09:27 2013 No.10310399 File: 183 KB, 1000x1000, 30190504.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310371 お姉ちゃんペロペロ

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:10:12 2013 No.10310404 File: 275 KB, 800x800, oh goodness.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310371

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:10:27 2013 No.10310405 >>10310398 Stop with this brainwashing murdering nonsense. Nobody is suggesting anything of the sort.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:12:12 2013 No.10310414

>>10310393
I don't know how to answer that to you. I will say that if you did what Koishi did, in your last moments of conscious thought, you would realize what a horrible mistake you've made.
It's like how people jumping off buildings always change their mind as soon as their feet leave the roof. You don't realize what you've lost until it's gone or too late.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:12:42 2013 No.10310419 File: 93 KB, 800x800, satori doesn't have enough hair for a ponytail.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310405 Coulda fooled me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:13:57 2013 No.10310426 >>10310419 No, and if you reread the thread, you would clearly see a suggestion for a simple explanation in a calm environment wherein both could relax and discuss the subject worry-free.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:15:12 2013 No.10310434

>>10310414
And why is that?
What exactly would I lose?
Everytime I hear people say that having a conscious mind is such a great thing I have the feeling that they can't really give any reasons for this believe.
It just seems that everyone has been brainwashed into thinking that freewill and humanity is such a great thing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:15:42 2013 No.10310437 File: 30 KB, 500x500, eb8027808f0b9e13e9b263dfdf1ea839.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310426 Hmmmm. That's not what I read.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:17:27 2013 No.10310441

>>10310437
Yes, I know what you read. You told me several times, in fact. How evil, vile, descipicable it was, I was, how it was murder, brainwashing, all manner of unpleasantness. All it is is a simple understanding, helping two parties come to terms with a possibly difficult subject.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:19:57 2013 No.10310449 File: 562 KB, 1045x1500, P009.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:22:27 2013 No.10310462 File: 900 KB, 1600x1200, e941f595a00f82faa8d81b14eecc37a8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310441 But the way you put it, one party was doing all the influencing, and the other party didn't have a choice but to take.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:22:42 2013 No.10310463 File: 748 KB, 1070x1503, how_to_spend_your_summer_underground_07.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310449

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:23:42 2013 No.10310465 >>10310462 So you admit my suggestion has merit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:24:57 2013 No.10310469 File: 408 KB, 896x896, da06e7dda7696cb5d2d3cbf2f1484126.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310465 What? No. What?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:25:27 2013 No.10310470 >>10310469 Are you really sliding back now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:27:12 2013 No.10310475 File: 297 KB, 555x776, 127413571052.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310470 No, really, you lost me a bit here. How was I admitting your suggestion has merit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:27:12 2013 No.10310483 >>10310338 implying Reimu is physically strong

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:29:12 2013 No.10310487

>>10310475
Maybe I was reading too much into your post, but it seemed to me that you were asking for clarificiation as you had begun to doubt the nature of this argument. So, as I said, "All it is is a simple understanding, helping two parties come to terms with a possibly difficult subject."

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:30:57 2013 No.10310504 >>10310483 You can't beat Reimu's balls.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:33:27 2013 No.10310518

>>10310487
I think I still understand the argument. I was saying that it wasn't just "helping two parties come to terms, " because one party held all the power and decided what terms would be reached themselves. That's wrong; both parties should be equal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:34:12 2013 No.10310522 >>10310483 Reimu can easily tear those fragile external veins connected to Satori's 3rd eye and watch her die to blood loss.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:34:42 2013 No.10310524 >>10310518 I never said that one party held all the power, beyond what one party would normally hold due to strategic timing and choice of location that influences any conversation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:34:57 2013 No.10310527 File: 94 KB, 780x620, 1271450322480.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310522 That's a horrible thought.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:36:12 2013 No.10310536 >>10310524 >strategic timing and choice of location Care to elaborate?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:37:12 2013 No.10310541 >>10310522 Satori could just mindfuck her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:37:57 2013 No.10310544 File: 1.59 MB, 1000x1412, eccab4649f4a03b234c83478ea66a0dc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310536 I read that as "lactation" and had a bunch of strange, but indeed very pleasant thoughts.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:38:13 2013 No.10310547

>>10310536
Telling somebody you love them may not be the best idea when they walk in on their husband brutally butchered in a pile of blood and gore. Telling somebody you love them shortly after an aggressive break-up, however, may work better. Similarly, a graveyard is generally an ominous location, but somewhere of heavy sentimental value might prove a beneficial gesture.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:39:57 2013 No.10310552 >>10310547 No, not that. I get all that. I meant when and where and how you had in mind for this scenario?

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:41:57 2013 No.10310559

>>10310552
It depends on a lot of things. If you are concerned that others might have some rather negative input, then locations they do not frequent are ideal, but if another group might generally respond well to the idea, you should probably time the discussion so that they would be nearby and thus able to overhear and interject.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:43:12 2013 No.10310563 If Koishi has no barrier or restraint, what happens when she has lewd thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:43:12 2013 No.10310571 >>10310568 I have not the faintest idea what you are talking about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:43:42 2013 No.10310568 >>10310559 ...you're good at this, you know. Making statements that can so easily be interpreted in unwholesome ways.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:44:12 2013 No.10310573 File: 395 KB, 1127x1600, 721597e9ee82df8b15d9683fad077388[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310544 >lactation I hope this image is considered SFW. (as always translation is available on danbooru)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:44:12 2013 No.10310576 >>10310574 Then we are agreed?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:44:42 2013 No.10310574 >>10310571 Oh, stop.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:46:12 2013 No.10310582 File: 133 KB, 600x511, 1342428675785.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310563 She acts on them. See >>10310371

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:46:57 2013 No.10310588 >>10310576 On what, precisely? Your doublespeak or the convincing/brainwashing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:48:27 2013 No.10310599 >>10310588 On my suggestion that such a discussion must be carried out in an appropriate and well-prepared manner.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:48:57 2013 No.10310601 File: 202 KB, 1600x1200, 25557793.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310573 I am almost sure this author has a milking/lactation fetish but doesn't want to display it too much. http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/443951 Link is NSFW.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:49:42 2013 No.10310609 >>10310599 To an extent. That, at least, I can agree with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:50:12 2013 No.10310615 >>10310609 Then we are agreed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:51:57 2013 No.10310622 >>10310615 Sorta. I don't trust how far you seem willing to go.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:52:27 2013 No.10310624 >>10310622 I am only willing to do what is required. Would you condemn me for my ability to answer necessity?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 15:53:42 2013 No.10310627 Do you think the old Koishi is trapped inside her own head, powerless to influence what her body does but forced to watch, hidden from the sight of her sister's powers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:04:27 2013 No.10310658 magnum koishi where

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:04:42 2013 No.10310659 >>10310624 If it means harming Satori, the current Satori, or otherwise doing things that she doesn't want...then yes, I would. It's fine and expected to pursue the woman you love, but there are lines not meant to be crossed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:05:27 2013 No.10310661 >>10310659 So you would agree with me insofar as you do not violate her free will.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:08:12 2013 No.10310671
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>>10310627
I had that idea a while back. It's a really scary, grim thought.
Imagine Koishi, the "real" Koishi, trapped in a tiny room, with a small window in front of her, showing her what her body is doing. Imagine her pounding on the walls, clawing at the floor, screaming and wailing for help so loud that only she can hear it. For years and years and years.
Chilling. And also almost certainly not true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:09:57 2013 No.10310681 >>10310671 No way ZUN would go that far and introduce actual character development into the series.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:10:27 2013 No.10310683 >>10310661 That sounds fine. So long as Satori remains herself. Although...Sophie's Choice comes to mind.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:12:12 2013 No.10310690

>>10310683
You have agreed with me, then. And remember, there are many avenues to the desired goal without infringing on the free will of the subject, and for that matter, the phrase "strategic timing" did not actually enter discussion until >>10310524.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:12:27 2013 No.10310689 File: 236 KB, 515x728, 72cb36e5ed6d6a73ccb0b85cee522c65.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310659 Fuck that. If there is a line damn right I'll cross it. Who the hell do you think I am?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:13:42 2013 No.10310692 >>10310582 Koishi makes a good rapist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:17:27 2013 No.10310707 File: 904 KB, 1350x1450, 53d4b12b60be8579dd2bec3a17e198de.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310692 Satori disagrees.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:18:27 2013 No.10310712 >>10310690 Aaaargh god damn it I trust you so little it hurts. What are you saying now?

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:20:42 2013 No.10310722

>>10310712
I am saying that we agreed all options were open so long as the did not infringe upon the concept of "free will" as it applies to the subject. This means, however, that you are still free to strip outside influences, and as >>10310524 was a completely irrelevant post, you are free to construct the illusion of choice, which does not violate the contract as the relative status of "free will" did not have to be maintained. With the illusion of choice, you have the illusion of free will, not the dissolution of it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:24:57 2013 No.10310734 >>10310707 Being raped by Koishi should be a fantasy by anyone, she's a cute girl with no barrier or self-restraint. If she wants to "feel good" she'd jump on the nearest person.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:25:27 2013 No.10310735 >>10310722 Yeah, I knew it. Forget what I said. I can't agree with anything you say if you're going to worm and squirm your words around like that. "The relative status of 'free will' did not have to be maintained." You're a real piece of work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:26:42 2013 No.10310737 >>10310735 If you back out of the agreement now you will concede the point and as such acknowledge that all methods to obtain the subject are entirely justified and within reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:26:42 2013 No.10310738 File: 1.72 MB, 4092x2893, 1307278477974.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310734 >Satori disagrees.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:27:27 2013 No.10310743 File: 349 KB, 1024x768, 01e5e03f468ea8e7868b6c4971925f42.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310712 Out of curiosity, are you the guy from the Tenshi thread yesterday?

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:31:12 2013 No.10310765

>>10310737
This isn't a court or senate floor. This is two guys chattering away on the internet. We're not signing contracts and swearing oaths on this; you already know full well what's actually acceptable and what's not, though you won't admit it. Again, don't be stupid.

I will do no such thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:32:27 2013 No.10310768 File: 395 KB, 707x1000, 2707ffab5417d41f5c62bf43e535663e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310743 Probably. Which one?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:32:57 2013 No.10310773 >>10310743 You'll also find him ruining kasen, sanae, and aya threads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:32:57 2013 No.10310774 >>10310765 In that case, by all means, run away after excluded the exact situation the argument sprung up around. Really. I will not think that much worse of you for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:33:27 2013 No.10310775 File: 312 KB, 626x887, e7faf9786fa0c7fdc57e76724fc17f46.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310768 Well, probably that one, since I'm the other.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:38:42 2013 No.10310810 >>10310773 Ouch, dude. What'd I do wrong? >>10310775 Oh. Then yeah. Christ, how many times have we done this? >>10310774 Think you tripped a bit there. What?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:40:13 2013 No.10310818 >>10310810 I meant that he successfully lead the argument to a conclusion that the situation around which it arose was inappropriate, and then decided he was cheated and tried to run away.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:42:27 2013 No.10310831
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>>10310810
Well I dunno since right now you're cheating on me with someone else. Cause I'm not really taking part in this discussion. I'd love to mindbreak Satori, but I'm doing something else at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:42:42 2013 No.10310835 >>10310818 >he Uh. >conclusion that the situation around which it arose was inappropriate This is where you lost me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:44:27 2013 No.10310838 >>10310835 See >>10309968. This is on what the argument was about, and was roughly excluded by the end of it the argument.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:44:57 2013 No.10310840 File: 14 KB, 209x164, koishi gasp!.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310831 Oh! Oh. Really? Shit. If that's true...damn it, I've been had good this time. >I'd love to mindbreak Satori Argh! You actually said it!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:46:57 2013 No.10310847 File: 832 KB, 781x921, 9f264837b09ec12158238b3602f76402.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310840 Come on, dude. Who wouldn't? The irony would be sweet as peaches.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:48:42 2013 No.10310855

>>10310838
Excluded? Oh, nononono, that post has been at the forefront of my mind the whole time. If you're pting her somewhere you can care for her, by force, that's violating her free will. We were agreeing, briefly, that her free will wouldn't be violated, so...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:49:12 2013 No.10310857 >>10310855 Yes, forbidden. That was what I said.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:50:27 2013 No.10310860 File: 149 KB, 832x1024, 1278472340992.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310847 >peaches Ha! I think most people would agree that the irony wouldn't be worth sudden lack of Satori. Also Koishi would be sad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:51:57 2013 No.10310864 >>10310857 Yes, yes. But then you went on about how one could change what free will is or influence it and whatnot. No good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:53:12 2013 No.10310867 File: 75 KB, 479x337, 1279746833977.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310864 >how one could change what free will is or influence it and whatnot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:54:12 2013 No.10310870 >>10310864 I did not violate the terms of agreement when detailing the terms of agreement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:54:42 2013 No.10310873 >>10310867 God damn it, it's YOU! I fucking knew it!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:56:42 2013 No.10310881 >>10310873 Who's who?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:58:12 2013 No.10310884 File: 399 KB, 560x800, 14143515.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310873 Just don't noise it about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 16:59:12 2013 No.10310887 >>10310870 You'd make an excellent bureaucrat. What, do we need a definition of free will now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:00:57 2013 No.10310894 File: 216 KB, 900x643, you monster.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310884 Oh, I'll keep quiet. For now, maybe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:01:57 2013 No.10310898 File: 29 KB, 126x126, 1288697464647.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >276 posts Whoops.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:04:12 2013 No.10310915 >>10310887 If you would provide one, that may or may not help to continue the seperation of the specified instance from the grounds deemed to be within reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:04:42 2013 No.10310912 File: 363 KB, 750x750, 26fac9bc181494cc4efe2dde9ca3d96d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310894 Good boy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:07:57 2013 No.10310924 File: 164 KB, 850x708, 1334031516640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310898 In just 8 hours at that. Nice to see that people still love Koishi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:09:12 2013 No.10310931 File: 41 KB, 374x270, 134030543518.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310924 >Nice to see that people still love Koishi. Y-y-yeah...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:09:12 2013 No.10310932 >>10310924 Totally they didn't just fill the thread up with pointless argumentation and semantics, no?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:11:57 2013 No.10310947 File: 88 KB, 629x717, fb84bb30f030356841a1bf3cbef5a318.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10310932 Again. I really gotta stop doing this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:12:57 2013 No.10310955 >>10310931 >>10310932 Still, a lot of it was discussion about Koishi, was it not? Some Touhou's dont get any discussion at all. You're lucky.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:14:42 2013 No.10310968 >>10310932 >>10310955 I think we can agree, though, that Koishi is the best SA.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:16:27 2013 No.10310980 >>10310968 Close to the best character in all of Touhou you mean.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:16:43 2013 No.10310984 >>10310980 One of my personal favorites, yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:16:57 2013 No.10310989 >>10310915 For fucks sake. Why bother? You'll just twist it whichever way you want. Free will is free will; the ability to think and decide for yourself, without heavy outside influence and restraint.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:18:12 2013 No.10310997 >>10310955 No. It's mostly argument over weather or not it's ok to mind break Satori or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:20:27 2013 No.10311014 >>10310989 I think I have left enough room in this argument that I do not need the definition to favor me. >>10310997 On my side, there was very little discussion about the weather, and the subject was mostly an unspecified/any girl.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:21:27 2013 No.10311018 >>10310997 Well, at least it brought attention to her thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:23:12 2013 No.10311037 >>10311014 Maybe in your mind. Clever wordplay and doublespeak isn't making you any more in the right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:24:12 2013 No.10311046 >>10311037 On the contrary, I managed not only to assert my argument, but gain agreement from the opposing party.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:25:27 2013 No.10311052 >>10311046 Which said party immediately retracted!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:26:27 2013 No.10311056 >>10311052 Thereby defaulting to my victory. Your assertions that I would argue for a cause I cannot support, however, are most unwelcome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:28:45 2013 No.10311066 >+ 295 posts and 145 image replies omitted. Click here to view. sugoi

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:29:16 2013 No.10311071 >>10311056 >Thereby defaulting to my victory Oh, bullshit, how does that work?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:30:02 2013 No.10311078 >>10311071 You relented to my agreement, and then withdrew and fled the argument. If that is not a victory, then I do not know what is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:33:07 2013 No.10311104 >>10311078 Fled? You took my tenuous, temporary agreement and ran away with it, shouting "Nope, nope, I win!" when I tried to continue. That's a victory in the sense that taking the ball and going hope after gaining a lead is a victory.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:36:27 2013 No.10311120 >>10311104 Your arguments upon me declaring this were "You're a real piece of work" and "I shall do no such thing." You did not specify any further. I took this as a sign that you were either unwilling or unable.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:41:15 2013 No.10311145

>>10311120
That is a good point.
HOWEVER, I still assert that heavy influence and forced change on another mind is wrong by default. I might fall for your verbal traps, but that doesn't actually change my thoughts on the matter.
I remain unconvinced of your point. Can you still call that a victory?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:43:30 2013 No.10311154 >>10311145 If you will insist that proving your affections to the subject is in some fashion malicious or incorrect, then yes, I will be forced to accept what ground I have gained.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:46:38 2013 No.10311167 >>10311154 And that's not what I'm insisting. You KNOW that's not what I'm insisting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:48:28 2013 No.10311170 >>10311167 I disagree. That is the heart of the matter, more or less. You find manners I find charming to be distasteful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:50:34 2013 No.10311185 File: 1.88 MB, 1600x1200, 31928987.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Y'all niggas need to chill and post more well-endowed Satori.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:55:14 2013 No.10311225

>>10311170
No. I think I've made it clear that I'm not apposed to proving your love for another. However, what you have been suggesting is FORCING her to accept your feelings. If that is the "manners" you are referring too, then distasteful doesn't begin to describe my contempt for them.

Proving your affections is not the heart of the matter here; manipulating the subject until she has no choice but to accept them is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 17:58:19 2013 No.10311236 File: 378 KB, 1165x787, daad4bc5fcb729efa309a4c7d67aaa43.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10311185 Boob Satori still confuses me. Satori, with breasts. LARGE breasts. How can this be?

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:00:53 2013 No.10311246

>>10311225
As I said, the initial scenario is a worst-case-scenario type. It would be better if the subject was more willing to return your affections. Given that, one might try a lighter method, such as ingratiating oneself with the other, moving more into their schedule and trying to get them more involved with you. Probably begin removing external influences when they become problematic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:06:33 2013 No.10311275 File: 1.00 MB, 2145x3029, 293227112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10311236 The magic of canon.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:07:49 2013 No.10311282

>>10311246
And as I said, it should not even be a worst-case-scenario. It must not be done, and if you truly loved and cared for someone, you would not be willing to hurt them so.
That being the first suggestion puts all your subsequent proposals into question. Surely you can see "probably begin removing external influences when they become problematic" can sound very malicious indeed when this entire discussion was started with talk of hypnosis and brainwashing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:08:35 2013 No.10311288 >>10311282 There was no hypnosis or brainwashing anyway. It was all simple, honest affections.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:15:46 2013 No.10311315 File: 1.39 MB, 240x252, 1353153097014.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10311300 Forget the tits, look at that fucking ASS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:16:47 2013 No.10311317 >>10311288 Come now. That is what we've been discussing from the very beginning. You've made it clear that you're willing to go to those lengths, and that love for the subject made it acceptable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:18:20 2013 No.10311320 >>10311317 Of course it is acceptable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:22:07 2013 No.10311334 >>10311320 No, it is not. You're bending another to your will, removing ability to have a say on the matter by raping their mind until their say is favorable to you. It's mental slavery.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:24:07 2013 No.10311339 >>10311334 We both know that is not true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:25:07 2013 No.10311343 >>10311339 Oh? Do we?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:25:07 2013 No.10311344 >>10311334 >It's mental slavery. So?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:26:13 2013 No.10311348 >>10311343 Of course. I said happy earlier. People like to rely on others anyway, and I am fine being the sole support for another person.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:30:21 2013 No.10311365

Even though this thread passed bump limit long ago i'm still reading you, guys.
>>10311334
You are right.
>>10311320
And you have some serious issues. If this discussion was posted on some normalfag forum I would call police immediately, because you are potential rapist and serial killer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:30:37 2013 No.10311368 >>10311348 Happy what? You've said it plenty; be more specific. Yes, people like to rely on others, but only those of their own choosing. I doubt prisoners like relying on their captors for food.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:36:39 2013 No.10311401 >>10311344 What do you mean "so?" Treating someone as an object is wrong, especially someone you're supposed to love.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:37:10 2013 No.10311402

>>10311368
I do not want to be thought of as a captor, not at all. That was why I said something along similar lines was a last resort, only after traditional methods have failed. And it would be easy enough to be a crutch when you cut away all other lines, of course; something entirely within reason given ample time or opportunity, which of course, will be available.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:45:27 2013 No.10311433

>>10311402
>I do not want to be thought of as a captor
I bet. By cutting away all other lines for as long as it takes, however, what are if not one?

That you're willing to try traditional methods of wooing her at first is to your credit, but that is overshadowed that you would consider this at all; you're considering her love for you a given inevitability, regardless of what she says. If you're not going to care about what she wants unless its what you want her to want, you might as well date a sex doll.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:46:44 2013 No.10311440 >>10311433 But if I did not care, why would go so far out of my way to demonstrate that I did?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:48:32 2013 No.10311450 >>10311440 What do you mean?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:49:03 2013 No.10311454 >>10311450 Just as I said. If I did not care, why would I bother interacting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:49:33 2013 No.10311456 >>10311401 Why? Oh and FYI, I don't love Satori.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:55:27 2013 No.10311470

>>10311454
I didn't mean it in that sense. You care about her wants, but want them to include a certain set of wants, and will change her until they do.

>>10311456
Are you serious? You can't see what's wrong with taking away another person's freedom, even their ability to think for themselves?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:57:29 2013 No.10311477 >>10311470 It is not about changing them, but about involving myself in them, you understand? I admit that I have some preferences, but odds are if I find her to be so charming that she already hits a goodly number of them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:58:02 2013 No.10311484 >>10311470 Satori is a youkai though, not a person.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 18:58:46 2013 No.10311482 >>10311470 No? Please explain.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 19:01:03 2013 No.10311493 >>10311477 Misused words. Sorry. Changing someone's desires and imposing a new set of desires, greater than their others, on them are close enough concepts that the differences is most semantics, though.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 19:04:03 2013 No.10311495

>>10311493
I still disagree with your objections, but I am unsure what exactly you are objecting to. I have tried to state my desires as clearly as possible, but still you reject. The idea is not about removing her, or changing her, but about taking her. Something that captures my mind so intently is something I must have.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 19:08:41 2013 No.10311506

>>10311482
By enslaving someone, you removing their rights as a person. You reduce them to a mere object, that has no say whatsoever in what happens in their life. If you don't see anything wrong with that, I'm not sure what to tell you.

>>10311484
Never let me see you say that again. Youkai are as much people as you and me. They think, they feel, they want, they reason. They are people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 19:11:01 2013 No.10311519 >>10311495 In taking her in a way that forces her to want you, you are changing her! She decided she didn't want you, and you cut her off from all other things but yourself until she does, eliminating her own thoughts from the equation!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 19:11:31 2013 No.10311517 >>10311506 Youkai aren't people. If they were people, they'd be people, but they're youkai. There's a clear distinction. Why do you think we call them youkai and not people?

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 19:16:54 2013 No.10311538

>>10310382
Animals don't feel love, it is a human feeling.
Attachment is what animal feels if they get used to the fact that being near you is beneficial .

>According to scientists animals have no minds either and yet they can show affection and give you the feeling of being loved.

Bullshit, read before posting.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 19:17:24 2013 No.10311541

>>10311519
Outsiders are a distraction. Removing them is a boon, to the both of us. Of course her thoughts would matter; I would give them all serious consideration and thought. I would not be forcing her; I would be helping her to realize it, hastening the process.

Anonymous Thu Jan 3 19:40:00 2013 No.10311632

>>10311517
We call them youkai to differentiate them from humans, not from people. They're not human, but still people. It's not a very hard concept to grasp.

>>10311541
You'd give them serious consideration and thought, but you'd decide which ones she gets to act on. She wants to be with her friends? They're a distraction, away they go. She doesn't want to be with you? Well, we can't have that.

>I would be helping her to realize it,
Oh, no, don't go stupid on me. I can talk about your points, but don't go go all "she thinks this, she just doesn't know it yet." That logic is flawed from the start.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 19:46:08 2013 No.10311654 >>10311632 >It's not a very hard concept to grasp. I find it quite hard. Monkeys think, reason, want and all that stuff, and so do dolphins, and yet I've never seen anyone call them people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 3 19:49:26 2013 No.10311665 >>10311654 Sad but true. Humans are dicks. Most Youkai are quite a bit smarter than monkeys or dolphins, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 4 03:03:27 2013 No.10313368 wow, my thread got the max image limit... never thought that was going to happen

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 4 09:19:05 2013 No.10314411 Biggest thread on /jp/ congrats

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