/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Not even 10 mins and this game is already 10x better then little busters. Why do people say the common route and girl routes are bad when its already better then little busters by a mile? I mean the common route and girls routes in little busters wasn't even fun, it was just boring. Also any news when the full patch with be out? the bgm is freaking epic also.

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>>10305939
Was it because people where expecting a master piece beyond every vn? So it was rated on a different level then little busters?

[Anonymous No.]

Anybody reading it or should i wait for the full patch? Is the common route/girls routes edited in a final edited state, or is he going to recheck them?

[Anonymous No.]

Are you reading a VN in English?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10305974
Ixrec our lord and savior translated it.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the name of this game?
I searched for Rewrite October 4th (Monday) but I found no results i think.

[Anonymous No.]

Also no retarded baseball mini games every freaking day and no retarded battles that i have to either sit through or repeated skip through for every route. the gps on the phone is really cool. And since each girl is written by different writers its a breath of fresh air each time. who wrote tera and moon?

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>>10305997

>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.]

You know, it really is sad that Key will never make anything remotely as significant as Clannad again.

At least Maeda realized that and gave up as a writer, but I wonder how long the rest of Key will continue churning out the mediocre titles like they did ever since.

I guess as long as people will continue buying them...

Sad.

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>>10305998
Uh, you could completely turn both of those things off if you didn't like them for some bizarre reason.

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>>10306021

Sounds like you're projecting your defeatist attitude. This is likely why you ended up on /jp/.

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>>10306021
rewrite seems better then little busters and its a different game from clannad and the others, and has different writers so it cant really be called a key game. but did all the writers work on tera and moon or just one of them? what writers worked on this again? I know it was r07 and the cross channel guy but who else?

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>>10306021
I agree, same with Nitro+ and Type-Moon

rip the visual novel industry

[Anonymous No.]

>>10306039
They proven time and time again that they don't really know how to make something great but are instead throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.

I'm not even saying the newer stuff is bad, it's just overwhelmingly disappointing.

You read it and the only feeling you're left is a sense of "that's it?".

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>>10305939
The best parts of Rewrite are generally considered to be the Moon and the Terra routes. The common route is worse than that of any other mainline Key title, same with the majority of the character routes. Kotori's route for example, is a steaming pile of shit. Sasuga Romeo.
So no, it isn't, better than LB. You must be a disgusting English only peasant. Oh wait, you are.

>>10305998
The map on the phone is completely bullshit, has no use, has no entertainment value, isn't a game, and you can't even turn the damn thing off. At least, with LB, if you had some kind of brain damage preventing you from enjoying the baseball or fighting minigames, you could turn them off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10306080
lb was fucking boring and had boring girls, it hasn't been 5 mins an rewrite is more fun already. And the phone is just a simple way to add some small text in, its not a big deal. Also whats so wrong with Kotori's route?

[Anonymous No.]

>10 mins in
This game is terrible, and you'll find out how soon enough. There were a few chuckles to be had, but those were few and far between.

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>>10306106
Lb was boring the first 5 seconds, there is just nothing that made me into it. It was so average and boring it wasn't even funny. At least the girls are fun in this game and not so plain. you have a good best friend too, better then all the guy best friend in lb. Also riki is shit.

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>>10306103
So you have ADHD then I take it?
And if you've only played for 5 minutes how can you know what the girls are like? They don't all appear within 5 minutes.

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>>10306117
I'm saying in the first 5 seconds i was bored, i was bored for the whole route i played. And i picked the only girl i liked. At least this game has something a lot more too it then just boring character routes, which 90% of lb was.

[Anonymous No.]

Explain why the common route and some f the character routes are bad in rewrite, when its just more fun then lb. Do they just become bad over time in certain routes?

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>>10306144
You've played Rewrite for 5 minutes you say... How can you say you like the girls in Rewrite better when there is only like 1 girl that appears within the first 5 minutes?

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>>10306151
Because i read reviews and they all have interesting personalities instead of plainness like lb. Everything about lb felt plain,slow,and boring. the main character was boring and so where all the girls. I had no interest in them. they where like watered down versions of old key girls. rewrite at least has different writers so it should be a lot different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10306080
>>10305974
'im a fken elitiset faget dat lieks to get fuged by his FATher evryday in my anus' - you
get out homolords

If you want to find excuses why did you waste hours of your life for learning some outdated language, go somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

Key died when Maeda stopped writing

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>>10306194
Like anything he ever did was because he was a good writer and not by chance.

I think the joke that was Angel Beats proven this once and for all.

Maeda just needs to stick to music.

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>>10305974
Fuck off to 2ch, retard.
http://toro.2ch.net/gal/

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>>10306198
Angel Beats would have been a lot better if it had been a VN.

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>>10306071
I think you're expecting too much before starting.

You know, all artists, be it musicians, painters or writers, have to deal with the living hell that is getting motivation. Because it's a creative process, you can't expect to get the same good results all the time, unlike other activities that rely solely on skill like for example riding a bike.

Just because an artist got a good idea once, it doesn't mean that all the ideas following it are going to be as good or better. The same happens in music, books and pretty much everything.

[Anonymous No.]

Little Busters had a lot of problems, but Rin2/Refrain made up for them IMO.

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>>10306251
10% of a game doesn't make up lost time. rewrite is proving to be better at least for me. since LB and rewrite are on completely different scales, just because you give a good rating to an alright game, doesn't mean its the same for a game like rewrite.

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>>10306198

Clannad was too potent and too well realized to be cast off as a fluke especially since he contributed the vast majority of product outside of the art.

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>>10306374
Clannad wasn't particularly well-realized though. A lot of it is unnecessary or redundant and it could be at least one-third shorter and achieve the same or greater emotional effect.

If it was a flawlessly executed story from start to finish it might have suggested some greater talent, but it simply is not. It's just that the good parts happen to outnumber the bad parts and in the end come together to form the whole that's bigger than the sum of them.

But it isn't by some meticulous intelligent design, it's by a stroke of luck, or else it would be possible to at least come close to replicating it, instead of blindly shooting in the dark further and further from its greatness as later works show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10306426
but kanon and air more so, was better then clannad.
clannads not even as good as those two, which made key popular in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

I like Kotori a lot, is her route really that bad? why is it bad? also the mc is really cool. cant wait for akanes route, hows her route?

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>>10306692
Kotori's route is pretty bad since you really have no idea what's going on there, especially if you read it first. But it's not nowhere near as bad as Chihaya's route, that's easily the worst in game.
In my opinion, routes go Lucia>Akane>Kotori=Shizuru>>Chihaya.

[Anonymous No.]

Where do i download it?

[Anonymous No.]

What the actual fuck is going on in this thread?

Is everyone posting ironically? There's no way people type like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307212

And yet, you're contributing to it. funny.

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>>10307212
It's just Milf Autist samefagging.

[Anonymous No.]

This is why i knew rewrite would be 100x better then LB shit, the girls are fucking out there. she was playing a fps in the dark on her gaming labtop. Now that im pretty far i can say that the main character, best friend,girls,story,and music is on a whole other level than the boring media core lb shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Even though i hate shooters, this is pretty funny. I can tell she and Lucia are gonna be fun. but i still like Kotori even though her route might be bad a bit.

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>>10306219
I don't know how to feel about Angel Beats. The good parts were really nice, but there were so many boring parts too.

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[Anonymous No.]

Oh man,

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307336
Welcome to Key.

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>>10307373
I didn't feel that way about the others though, I think Angel Beats was just shittier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307334
>Make girls unrealistically cater to the NEET crowd and generic archetypes
>Better than LB girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>10306070
And Leaf.

jk they always blew

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307382
I don't know, that's how I felt about every Key work except Planetarian (which simply wasn't long enough to get boring). I still like their stuff, but you sure have to sit through a lot of bullshit to get to the good bits. Air was probably the worst in that regard, at least for me. Clannad was the least, because it felt more coherent and purposeful than the others, but it still dragged in a number of places.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10305998
>And since each girl is written by different writers its a breath of fresh air each time. who wrote tera and moon?
>>>10306166
>Everything about lb felt plain,slow,and boring. the main character was boring and so where all the girls. I had no interest in them. they where like watered down versions of old key girls. rewrite at least has different writers so it should be a lot different.

You're beyond retarded. LB had 4 different writers (Maeda, Tonokawa, Shirokiri, Kashida) while Rewrite had 3 ; one of them being Tonokawa who did a job just as terrible as what he wrote for LB. Also, the fact that both of those games had several writers created many inconsistencies throughout their stories, which were not present in previous Key titles. If anything, I liked those games solely for the parts Maeda and Romeo were responsible for. Ryukishi07 also did a rather good job with Lucia (although uninspired "Saikano all over again", it was entertaining and decently well executed) but he wrote only one route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307394
yeah but they aren't generic at all, LB were the super stereotypical plain generic boring ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307394
>wanting to read about boring realistic average girls
I could read about those in a book.
but they weren't realistic in lb, they were just so average and plain that they seemed realistic.

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>>10307408
I have to agree. The parts of LB written by Maeda were what made the game good. Kashida's route sucked, Shirokiri was okay but not great. Tonokawa's work was utter shit except for Sasami's route, which was decent. You get to Maeda's stuff and it's so much better written it's not even funny.

[Anonymous No.]

Im really enjoying rewrite,
I would go even as far to say that rewrite is the next clannad or at least on the same level as it. maybe even more so in the tera and moon routes, which will be quite the read i hear. clannad was good for its comedy and characters but the drama sometimes got a bit too much. I dont think rewrite is going for drama, maybe action and adventure which i know tera and moon has.

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>>10307423
LB heroines were just as "average and plain" as the girls in Clannad, probably even less. So Clannad was "boring shit" too ? Oh, and let me guess, you think Sword Art Online is the "best thing evar".

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307464
Sword Art Online was pretty boring, like sleep inducting most of the time. Im more of a accel world kind of guy.

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>>10307485

[Anonymous No.]

Sigh...average post quality in this thread is abysmal. People, remember that opinions are opinions, they are subjective, and what you may like about X may be what another person hates about X. This does not mean they have 'no taste' or 'bad taste', it just means they like different things.

Now, some information useful to this thread:

I can say with certainty that Kanon, Clannad, Little Busters and Rewrite all had multiple writers. Air likely also had multiple writers, but I can't confirm. I have no idea about Planetarian's writer(s).
Jun Maeda wrote for Kanon, Air, Clannad and Little Busters. (Not Rewrite.)
Tonokawa wrote for Little Busters and Rewrite.
Ryukishi07 and Romeo only wrote for Rewrite (for Key; they obviously have non-Key works).

As far as I know, the route writers in Rewrite:
Chihaya: Tonokawa
Kotori: Romeo
Lucia: Ryukishi07
Shizuru: Tonokawa
Akane: Romeo
Moon: Romeo (not sure about this one)
Terra: Romeo (not sure about this one)

In Japan, Kanon was originally released to huge acclaim, and put Key on the map as a notable VN developer. Air and Clannad were similarly very positively received, and they both remain 'kamige' to the Japanese VN community. Though I'm not sure about the specifics, from what I've heard Little Busters was successful in Japan, but not to the extent of Key's previous three major works. Rewrite was successful for a VN, but as far as I know it wasn't as successful as Key's other major works. (It was still successful enough for them to release a fandisk, like with Clannad and Little Busters.) Again, no idea about Planetarian - I never hear anything from Japan about that game.

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>>10307606
>and they both remain 'kamige' to the Japanese VN community

Does Japan not have hipsters or something? Must be nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307462
Look at this ruseman.

[Anonymous No.]

My opinions regarding Key's works and how they compare:

Being an 'English-only peasant' and having only started reading VNs in 2008, I only started reading Kanon well after having played later VNs. Though I understand its historic perspective, comparing it to later games makes Kanon feel kind of average. (I played 2.5 routes: Mai, Nayuki and half of Makoto.)

I haven't played Air since its translation project is cursed and it will never be translated.

I regard Clannad as one of the best VNs I've ever played. I thoroughly enjoyed its atmosphere, its slice-of-life comedy and its drama. I was constantly entertained with the exception of two parts, most of Kyou route and the start of After Story: the former for breaking character's personalities in a horrible manner and the latter just felt boring to me. (I played the entire game including baseball route.)

I always found Planetarian to be a tad overrated. It's a nice short story, but it wasn't as entertaining as Key's other works, the story was too predictable and the emotional ending just didn't evoke much emotion for me (part of it was the disconnect between how emotional the situation really is and how emotional the game makes the situation seem - it was just a random robot you've known for a day. What also played a major part was that it was about a robot (digital data using an artificial humanoid body) whose body was destroyed - the essence of the character (the data) could easily still be retrieved even from the 'corpse', and was in fact turned into a backup at the end of that scene).

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307704
(continued)

I loved Little Buster's common route and its characters, but the character routes that I played were horrible, far below anything else by Key I've read. Rin1 was actually good aside from the abrupt ending, Kurugaya route was amusing but slightly too boring for what I expected from Key, Komari route was utterly predictable and its drama didn't do anything for me, and I simply dropped Haruka route from its very first day due to how blatantly they disregarded the personalities of all characters involved (more so than even in the other character routes). I heard Kud's route has the same problem, and Mio is to this day the only Key character I've found simply uninteresting. (Kyousuke, Masato and Kengo are legendary tier when it comes to friend characters, though.) I only played common route (+all minigames every time) and the listed routes; I was never able to play Refrain due to just being unable to trudge through the character routes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307606
Planetarian was written by Suzumoto.
Air had two main writers, Maeda and Ishikawa, plus 4 assistants.

So yeah, every Key game save for Planetarian had at least 2 different writers. But for some reason Rewrite was the only one whose inconsistency bothered me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307713
You really should read Refrain. It's obviously the best part of LB and I personally liked it more than Clannad's AS. Sure, the heroines routes are awful, but only Rin's is related to what happens in Refrain so you can skip all the others.
Also, Haruka is the only route from the original LB that I somewhat liked. It wasn't anything more than average, but miles apart from the failures that the other routes were.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm currently reading Rewrite, and I'm thoroughly enjoying it so far, though it definitely isn't for everyone.

Its common route feels like a combination of Clannad and Little Busters' common routes; it has a lot of atmosphere like in Clannad, but has a lot of stuff actually happening like in Little Busters. Its atmosphere never reaches Clannad's and its events aren't as interesting as Little Buster's, but I'm still enjoying it as much as LB's common route (which I liked a bit less than Clannad's common route).

So far I've played Chihaya's and Lucia's routes, which are very different and very un-Key-like. I enjoyed both of them (Lucia significantly more than Chihaya's, but Chihaya's also felt great), though likely most people will strongly dislike some aspects I loved about it; Chihaya's route is full of shounen action manga-type bullshit with fighting monsters with superpowers, I MUST PROTECT X AND CANNOT GIVE UP, 'power of determination' asspulls and the like. Lucia has this to a lesser extent and more of an actual plot, but it also has the shounen stuff and the plot itself is also cheesy at times. In general, the story is often unreasonable and full of cliches - but it's done in the kind of way that the people who love that kind of stuff will also love the story ('cheesy in a good way', if I had to put it in one sentence). If you don't, you'll probably hate it. I also want to note that the start of Lucia route (mainly the common route part) was terrible with the excessive melodrama (characters responding in overly hostile ways and the like), and that Ryukishi07 is apparently the kind of writer who completely butchers the personalities of all characters not originally written by him; the quality of the rest of the route makes up for these flaws, though.

My ranking of Key games:

Clannad > [Rewrite (tentative)] > Kanon > Little Busters (its common route was still great despite the rest of the game) > Planetarian

[Anonymous No.]

>from what I've heard Little Busters was successful in Japan, but not to the extent of Key's previous three major works.
Not really. Little Busters is Key's second best selling title, and it was voted by Key fans as the second best VN Key has made after Clannad.

As for Rewrite, it sold fine sure, but still not that great compared to other Key titles. It was the 11th best selling game for 2011 on getchu. Meanwhile Little Busters was 1st in 2007, and LB!EX was 3rd in 2008.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307805
I was talking about a combination of ratings and sales. By the time of LB, Key already had a very significant fanbase and thus even a title that wasn't as well-received as Kanon and Air would outsell those two. The poll result is surprising, though - Kanon doesn't really stand the test of time so it makes sense for it to be lower, but what happened that LB got a higher place than Air?

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>>10307787
I never read unlockable routes of a VN without reading the required routes to unlock them first. (I also never CTRL through anything other than plotless H-scenes.) It just feels like skipping several chapters in a book; even if there is no direct plot connection, it still cuts out context (that the creator decided was necessary for the full experience) and any less obvious other effects those routes may have had (such as giving the reader expectations as to what to expect from the rest of the story), it does not give you the full experience and you can't accurately judge any part of it (same reason why I never watch VN anime adaptations before reading the VN), and it just feels completely disrespectful to the author, to read his work outside of the context it was meant to be in.

And if the earlier parts are so bad as to hinder progress towards the 'actually good' parts of the game, then that's just a flaw of the game.

(Similarly, I've never read MLA because of how terrible Extra is.)

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>>10307824
>I was talking about a combination of ratings and sales.
Well, in both cases LB is higher aside from Clannad so...
>but what happened that LB got a higher place than Air?
I'm not sure what you mean. Air isn't really considered to be better by the fanbase. Even on EGS LB!EX is ranked slightly higher.

[Anonymous No.]

Hmm.

I feel like the main problem with Little Busters is that they basically recycled the characters that they have been using for forever. And not just reusing the archetypes, but reusing relationships, dynamics, themes, everything.

Plus, the protagonist of Little Busters was a bit of a blob for 90% of the story. Clannad probably had the best protagonist. Rewrite's is alright.

Still, I think that Little Busters takes place during a time where Key is repeating themselves. Adding new writers and changing the focus of the story from a personal to cosmic level was a good idea, since at least it did a few new things.

The common route of Little Busters was really annoying, particularly as they added scenes to it, making it harder to skip. Plus baseball mini-game was god-awful. Mappie is tolerable.

Plus, the Yoshino segment karaoke is probably the best gag Key has done in a long time.

Still, either I am getting older or Key's composition is just becoming more irrelevant and more out of touch with modern audiences. I think the characters from Little Buster are so disconnected from what any possible real person could be like that suspending disbelief becomes nearly impossible.

Compared to the characters from Grisaia, they just don't really feel worth spending time on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307869
>And if the earlier parts are so bad as to hinder progress towards the 'actually good' parts of the game, then that's just a flaw of the game.
Then I guess Rewrite is super flawed in that regard, considering the only truly good part of the game is after everything else.

>>10307905
>I feel like the main problem with Little Busters is that they basically recycled the characters that they have been using for forever.
Er what? The main heroine in the first three main Key games = sick/dying heroine. Ayu is a ghost girl thing who is in the hospital, Misuzu is dying and dies at the end, Nagisa is frail/sickly and dies. Rin is way different that the others. She is anti-social, unlike the others, she is physically strong, unlike the others, and she plays a tsukkomi role, unlike the others.

The protagonist as well. You may not like Riki, but he is still different than the same kopipe sarcastic protags of Kanon, Air, and Clannad.

And I don't recall there being main characters like Sasami, Kengo, Kyousuke, etc in the other titles so what the hell are you talking about?

>Plus baseball mini-game was god-awful. Mappie is tolerable.
You can turn off the baseball. And at least the things the characters said during it were funny, and it made sense considering the story. You can't turn off Mappie. Even for subsequent playthroughs when you are clicking the same dumb shit on the little map for no reason other than just because they wanted that in the game.

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>>10307869
I do agree with you, but that's disrespectful to the author only if he wrote the whole thing. Maeda did the common route, Rin's route and Refrain, which are exactly what you should read. Everything else is disconnected, and even totally out of place as far as Mio and Kud are concerned. Those two not only didn't provide any context for Maeda's parts, but they ignored and destroyed it.
Among all the character routes, the only thing that was linked to Refrain is the end of Kurugaya's route. However, it only takes from Refrain and doesn't give anything to it. As in, you can't understand Kurugaya's endings without having read Refrain, but reading Kurugaya's route doesn't provide insight on Refrain.

[Anonymous No.]

>Reading LB without Refrain

Whats the point?

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>>10307905
>The common route of Little Busters was really annoying, particularly as they added scenes to it, making it harder to skip.
I actually loved how new stuff kept being added, it gave you some extra common route so you still have some common route left to read (other than some short character-specific parts) even after more than 2 playthroughs. Especially Kengo's complete change from one common route to the next was great, it really added to the experience.

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>>10307938
You have a point with the protagonists (who instead just feel sort of generic, but different from before).

However, we have the recycled twin character set, the recycled childish characters, swirly eyes, etc, that sort of stuff.

It just feels like they are filling out a template when they make these girls.

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>>10307938
LB was just fucking boring, get over it. rewrite is just miles better and more fun.

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>>10307938
>Then I guess Rewrite is super flawed in that regard, considering the only truly good part of the game is after everything else.
yeah but reading rewrite is actually fun, unlike LB which feels like a chore.

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>>10308212
You just have fucking terrible taste, get over it.

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>>10308212
Maybe you're a pleb.

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>>10308228
>>10308231
Its not just me that agrees, tons of people said the same thing in this thread with one guy raging. While rewrite has inserting girls, a non boring mc and is just plain fun to read, lB is just a snooze fest. The mc was the biggest problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>comparing VNs when you don't even read it in its supposed raw form
lel

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>>10308048
>recycled twin character set
Being a twin isn't a character type.
>recycled childish characters
What does that even mean? I'm pretty sure just about all VNs have "childish" characters. And there are heroines that are not childish, Kurugaya for example. Besides, Rewrite has childish characters too. They are, after all, children you know.
>swirly eyes
????????????
>>10308240
>tons of people
I see an autistic dude that read the VN for 5 minutes and acts like it's the greatest Key title ever, but ok.

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>>10305939
>ｇａｍｅ
Ｔｈｉｓ 「動態動詞」 ｍｙ 「抽象名詞」.

Ｉ’ｍ　ｑｕｏｔｉｎｇ　ＯＰ．

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307350
>>10307353
>>10307356
As an ArmA II addict, I fell in love with her immediately.

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>>10308476
thumbs up if you only bought arma 2 for dayz

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>>10308478
I've played that mod once in my life and it was boring as shit. Arma+ACE is so much fun I don't really see why anyone would want to play an inferior mod.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10308476
Association of Medieval Martial Arts? oh . . . you're talking about some video game.

Damn.

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>>10308482
if you weren't as much of a beta faggot not having friends it would be a lot more fun

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>>10308514
What did you just say to me?

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>>10308514
But it's the other way around. I thought you were joking.

DayZ is played alone, players kill each other for food instead of helping each other. No objectives, no communication.

Vanilla Arma2 and ACE must be played with a team as you play in military squads, against the AI or another human team. They get to know each other and struggle together to complete their respective objective.

You should try it. Well but still, I guess Akane was playing some CoD shit or something.

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>>10308566
>DayZ is played alone, players kill each other for food instead of helping each other.

More like it's meant to be played alone, but no one does it. Everyone teams up and creates pacts just to go around and gang up on people that play alone.

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>>10308575
Poor little hikkikomori got bullied irl AND in video games

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>>10308575
Probably, but from what I've heard is that that happened only the beginning, now everyone kills each other and that everyone cheats. I wouldn't know because I never got killed and had to do nothing else but to crawl around escaping from zombies ad infinitum. Not very fun.

Also you're pretty retarded if you bought Arma 2 just to play a mod, especially now that they're going to release a standalone version (that was a great decision; no more rude DayZ kids in our servers).

[Anonymous No.]

I doubt Rewrite will be any good, but that won't stop me from reading it. Pretty much all the routes in Little Busters turned to shit once they got serious, the only ones that was actually decent were Refrain and Kurugaya's. Rewrite seems more action fantasy, which if that sword girl's route is anything to go by in Kanon, means that Rewrite will be horrible.

[Anonymous No.]

Rewrite is only good in its common route.

the girls route are terrible and the true route sucks ass.

And I'm someone who played this game for like 3 weeks nonstop when it got released in 2011 using some tl tools along as I was not that fluent in Japanese.
I really cried for all the effort I wasted on this crap game.

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>>10310112
That post was clearly ironic though. And was only typed out for the sole purpose of shitting the thread up.

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>>10310123
Lucia route is written by 07th Ryuushiki and lemme tell you that IT IS UTTER CRAP, literally the worst route.

But at least we have the fandisk and it a bit more good than the original game storywise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310123
what does Kanon have to with Rewrite? They have basically no writers in common, are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310123
Not even the same writer retard.
>>10310147
> tl tools
yeah, you dont even count.
>>10310160
you have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310147
>>10310158
Oh dear, I'm just Rewrite to pass the time until Majikoi is done anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310158

>>OP
>the bgm is freaking epic also.

You mean IMPROVING the thread right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310163
>>10310170
Samefag much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310147
You cant even read fucking japanese and you are rated a vn based off a fucking tl tool? you couldn't understand 99% of the vn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310170
>Not even the same writer retard.

Why do some people even care about who the writer is? Everything loses its touch when it's rewritten to English anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310196
You can't even write English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310191
Nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310206
Well you are still fucking retarded.
I dont even know why you would ruin a vn with reading complete random shit from a tl tool. Why do you even think you actually read the vn, when you didn't at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310196
Maybe he just used it to look up certain compounds? Using TL tools doesn't necessarily mean that you only use ATLAS and Google Translate to read it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310217
He said he couldn't read japanese at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310205
I don't know, read again the original quoted post with that knowledge and maybe you'll find out why what he said is stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310216
I'm not even >>10310196.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310223
>some
That wasn't directed towards you.

[Anonymous No.]

Rewrite is better than little busters, thats all anybody needs too know if they want to read it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310226
>some
That wasn't directed towards you.

[Anonymous No.]

Does she have a route? how is it?
Is it the oppai route ixrec has in his translation data?

[Anonymous No.]

Why Ixrec even puts down so much work for the translation scene is beyond me. He really must love people or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310253
Anybody? just want to know if she has a route, doesn't matter if you think its bad or not. When can you do her route if so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310268
>14:44
>14:47
Calm down dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310170
>> tl tools
>yeah, you dont even count.
>>10310196

oops I didn't mean things like Atlas tl or other similar crap.

I used tl tools to look for the kanjis that I didn't know about and the like.
If anything I can honestly say that I did understand 99% of the game.

I talked about that only and only because I wanted to talk about my disappointment. It took much more time to read it while using tools.

But whatever if you don't wanna believe it so be it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310281
It's milf autist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310284
Looking up constantly things disrupts the reading flow a lot. Things you might have thought boring might be actually way shorter for people who just read naturally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310284
No matter what using tl tools, you still don't count. And i think you just had way too much hype. A lot of people are playing it and liking it a lot knowing its not something omega good and new. Its a lot of fun and im only in the common route. since it gets even better in the other half in the game im sure im not gonna be dispointed. Also all the girls and characters are really fun, thats what counts for me, unlike how the girls in LB where kinda more down to earth and less out there, so was the mc who was a typical shy boring japanese.For an mc it was really boring, at least for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310281
Well please, does she have a route? yes or no.
And if she does, do you date her? yes or no.
thats all, thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310324
please /jp/.. just a yes or no..

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310306
sure I suffered from that a lot too but what I'm saying it that the scenario was pretty bad and it definitely didn't worth my effort.
>>10310316
Yeah I had pretty big expectations for it as the trial version was really funny and I enjoyed it very much. (I played it using the same tl tools.)
but well you can pretty much decide for yourself I guess.
Also I think Japan too didn't like it very much.
>>10310324
>>10310381

nope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310383
>Also I think Japan too didn't like it very much.

>平均値
>77

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310425
Why would you anything but 2ch for Japanese opinion on anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310160
What the fuck, Lucia route is known as the best route not just here but from reviews too, with akane right behind her, are you trolling just for fun? What the fuck is wrong with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310442
Terra and Akane are considered the best routes.
Well I don't how the west side think but that's how it was in Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310425
For a "supposedly" highly regarded Key game, you never hear its name around much though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310435
Why would anybody use a chan for reviews.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310435
The hell are you talking about? This is EGS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310445
Most reviews i saw said Lucia>akane
moon and tera are of course better.
but since im already really liking this better than LB and about the same as clannad (its more fun than clannad though than drama and pointless rambling though) its already a successes in my eyes. dont see how you can say this is not better than average vns or even not in the top vns when im having fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310425
For chaos head

中央値 78
平均値 76
データ数 687
標準偏差 12
最高点 100
最低点 10
giveupした人 19(2%)
積んでる人 77(9%)
面白くなってきた時間中央値 3時間
プレイ時間中央値 20時間

these are the scores. And we know whey they really think of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310467
>Most reviews i saw said Lucia>akane
sauce pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310473
google
>>10310471
Wait, didn't they really like chaos head? why would they not like it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310471
>>10310446
It's not like it's some kind of kamige. Those rate well over 85~, It's pretty average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310467
>Most reviews i saw said Lucia>akane
The reviews you read were probably just by R07 fanboys who did the game just for him.
From what I remember of the threads in 2ch Akane's route was easily the most appreciated.
There is also a reason she won the character poll so heavily.

[Anonymous No.]

There are some obvious crossboarders around here...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310484
Inst cross channel a kamige? I thought it was fucking shit and rewrites better then that.
>>10310491
Either way i like akane just as much as Lucia, they both have the best character routes so no complaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310505
Cross Channel is a masterpiece, you mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310484
Root Double x360

ブランド
イエティ
発売日
2012-06-14
ジャンル
SFサスペンスADV
中央値
85
標準偏差
8
データ数
44

pc ver
中央値 84
平均値 81
データ数 63
標準偏差 17
最高点 100
最低点 0
giveupした人 0(0%)
積んでる人 10(13%)
プレイ時間中央値 30時間

And any of you played and see how crappy it was? there you have EGS for being a reference to game quality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310507
Its really not.
>repeating shitty scenes making 50% of the vn
>shit ass mc
>boring ass fuck glasses girl talking over and over
>mc treating the pink haired girl and stalker like shit when they were the only decent ones.
>random magic eyes plot

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310525
It's not crappy, it's just pretty different if you expect something like Ever17 and shits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310531
No need to greentext your shit, english only faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310525
What, root double is fucking really good.
Its gundam aces favorite vn.
Its obvious its just you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310525
You have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310525
You must be trolling or retarded, everybody knows root double is a masterpiece. gundamace doesn't lie. he rated it the highest and ever 17 is his super favorite. hell he rated remember 11 like a 9, it is a lot better then ever 17 in my opinion though. cant wait for it and I/0. I cant understand people like you, of course that vn has a 85, it actually has fucking plot unlike shit moege. its on a different level,like all the infinity vns.

[Anonymous No.]

japanese users aren't bound by translation projects and obscure patches you have to download on the internet, there's bound to be a lot more casual players who are fine with entry level shit rather than people who know the medium or have taste
for better or worse, you're doing the equivalent of taking vndb averages at face value
comparing average scores might be relevant when it's about popularity, not quality, and then again you have to keep in mind the userbase that votes

tl;dr stop chucking average scores like they mean anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310531
Well, most of Rewrite (common route, Kotori, Akane, Moon and Terra) was done by the writer of Cross Channel, Tanaka Romeo. You really should stop reading Rewrite then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310575
>lot more casual players who are fine with entry level shit rather than people who know the medium or have taste
I dont think you understand that japanese have to buy these vns, which cost tons of money. these is no casual players for vns. Also just because your casual, doesn't mean you can shit through boring and bad shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310595
Its planned out though by everyone at key, he doesn't have all the power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310575
EGS score was posted to answer the question "did Japan like Rewrite?". It had nothing to do with the quality of the game. Stop getting butthurt over nothing at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310597
>Also just because your casual, doesn't mean you can shit through boring and bad shit.
Oh yes, it does. Television is the best example of that. Also, "casuals" often share their game copies between friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310632
yeah but the person who bought the game is not a casual, first of all people who buy vns wont have a lot of friends in japan i thought. And since hes sharing all his vns with his friends,the friends aren't casuals any more. you just cant be a casual and read vns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310575
And there are also people like me that know Japanese, and with 90% of the time I agree with these scores, as long as the ratings are balanced on a fair amount of people.

It also depends on how you define "good" whether it's an overuse of abstract kanji and jukugo and or good char development/comedy/2deep4u psycho-babble is for you to decide.

>>10310597
>I dont think you understand that japanese have to buy these vns, which cost tons of money.

There's always Share, PD and Torrents you know. And there's a vast amount of pirates in Japan, maybe not comparable to that of the western piracy scene, but still, noticable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310649
I hear japanese don't pirate because dishonor, plus the government is always watching and cracks down hard in japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310534
>>10310538
>>10310543
>>10310555
even though it sold like shit on x360 and got transported to pc in just like 2 months and still kept selling like shit and you guys think it's good?
I played it as well and it was really bad. Especially the high schooler protag was annoying as fuck and the game lacked any good charming heroine.
Even that vice-captain girl got worse as the story progressed.

well you guys can like whatever you want to though it's not my concern.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310660
Its really just you, it sold like shit because it was on xbox,
Also it has no sex. It had nothing to do with the game.
the same thing happened to all infinity games even though they had amazing plot. its why they went bankrupt for gods sake. your just retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310597
>these is no casual players for vns
which is why a lot of egs accounts have less than 10-20 games on it, or mostly vote average choose-your-girl moege, because there's no casual eroge players
right
>>10310649
>And there are also people like me that know Japanese, and with 90% of the time I agree with these scores,
so? you agreeing with them or not is pretty irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310674
>so? you agreeing with them or not is pretty irrelevant

It is relevant, as that's my opinion on the statement you posted earlier.
>stop chucking average scores like they mean anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310670
stop deluding yourself.

it sold like shit because it was bad.

even the shitty psp VNs are able to sell as much or more than the total sum RD managed to sold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310660
Also the characters are realistic in plot related games, they are not meant for waifu bullshit. your not supposed to look for charming uggu heroines in infinity games. All the characters in infinity games are older and more with reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310697
you are deluding yourself, you are the only one hear with that opinion. even all of japan agrees it was good. it got a 85.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310702
here*
You just have shit taste and dont like games with actual plot instead of girl character routes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10307382

Cry some moar you beta faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310702
>>10310704
oh well, ok then I will leave you alone.

enjoy yourself.

>>10310698
But Tsugumi of Ever17 was not an uguu type heroine right? I was referring to that kinda girl in my comment. A capable girl/heroine who can pull the scenario together all the way to the end.

[Anonymous No.]

how could anybody hate this vn.
All the interactions and girls are great. best vn ive read in a while. Also shes actually gurring here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310805
Also unlike clannad, there is no random pointless rambling on and countless boring parts like in LB, its nonstop crazy fun.

[Anonymous No.]

So is there any news on when tera and moon are coming? im still on the common route, will the full patch be out in maybe a couple of days? how long did it take you guys to do all the character routes?

[Anonymous No.]

I like to imagine that every /jp/er is like Akane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10310845
She really is like a /jp/er. I can she why shes the best girl, All the girls are fun though and the voice actors are amazing , i always want too re listen to the noises they make.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10311367
She has money, beauty, charisma and power. How is she even remotely close to the ugly, unemployed wimps that populate this board?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm having serious problems installing this. No matter what I try the autorun won't start. Running a few weeks old Win7 installation with enough computing power to supply a whole NASA.

So fucking odd because it worked just fine with my previous computer.

[Anonymous No.]

Also to the people who say the mc is like every other key mc is very wrong. hes actually a lot more complex than that. he seems to have a dark side to him and a lot of his fooling around and being all mr. goofy is a sham. its most likely an influence of the writer from cross channel who wrote a mc like that in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10311549
Hahaha, no. Koutarou is nothing like Taichi. Both may put up cheerful facades, but they do it for totally different reasons and have almost opposite personalities.
I do agree that Koutarou is very different from the protagonists in previous Key games (like Riki was), but don't compare him to fucking Taichi, please. I'm pretty sure you haven't read neither Rewrite nor Cross Channel in their entirety anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10311549
Hahaha, no. Koutarou is nothing like Taichi. Both may put up cheerful facades, but they do it for totally different reasons and have almost opposite personalities.
I do agree that Koutarou is very different from the protagonists in previous Key games (as Riki was), but don't compare him to fucking Taichi, please. I'm pretty sure you haven't read Rewrite nor Cross Channel in their entirety anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, guys. Discussion is done with arguments. 'You are a faggot' is not a valid argument. And using 'beta' as an insult on a place like /jp/ is just...

>>10310698
>All the characters in infinity games are older and more with reality.
I'm not quite sure how you managed to arrive at this conclusion. It's true that infinity-related games often also have older, more mature characters, but it goes both ways; Kurumi, Coco and Yuni were all practically really young (even if the former two are of the 'really 18 years old' variant), and they are far from realistic.

>>10310595
Cross Channel and Rewrite are entirely different stories. I very much disliked Cross Channel, but I'm loving Rewrite. I also loved the anime adaptation of Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita, also by Romeo (though I haven't read the novels they're based on).

>>10311549
Most of all, though I've only read two routes so far, Kotarou seems inconsistent. It feels like all three writers have completely different views on who Kotarou really is, personality-wise.

>>10311479
This is an obvious one, but is your locale for non-Unicode compatible programs set to Japanese? At least provide some information about what exactly goes wrong (installer program doesn't start, error (post screenshot) during installation, files not being installed or corrupted, etc), otherwise not even the people willing to help you can help you.

[GundamAce No.]

>>10310538
>>10305939

I will have to ask that you please stop repeating my opinion like it's the law or something. It's true that I love Root Double and it's one of my favorite VNs, but let's face it- I'm just one person. I would put more stock in a number other people's opinions than my own. I mean, I rated Never7 a 9/10, while the majority rated it a 7/10. I'm not going to lie- I'm not what you'd call an unbiased person, so my views are easily influenced. Just because I've been translating the rest of the Infinity-esque games doesn't mean my name should be used as if I were a god or something.

My point is, I wouldn't put extreme stock in my own opinions over a larger number of other people, and that I'm not what you'd call the most reliable opinion out there. That said, they're still my opinions and I still stick by them, but I don't like them being treated as if they're above everyone else's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10312529
yeah but it got a 85 anyway, its just one shittaste person, while everyone else agrees its good. So you not wrong.Also hows the translation going on I/0? How longer do you think it will take? also is the new translator still doing 12riven?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10311479
Installer didn't work for me either, so I just copied the files from ISO and pasted them on my computer. Worked fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10312529
Also any reason why it taking long to get far with you and blick, who was pretty fast with steins gate?

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe this thread, are you people serious? Do you write like this all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10311910
>This is an obvious one, but is your locale for non-Unicode compatible programs set to Japanese?
Yes. I tried those other things too, like switching locale itself and even system language (of course, tried all those together). But none of these helped.
The problem is that the autorun just does NOTHING. No error messages, just a few seconds of hourglass and then a surrender.

It doesn't leave many options to try either.

>>10312566
Trying this next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10312566
Thanks a ton! Worked beautifully.

[Anonymous No.]

Rewrite tera and moon patch when? whats taking ixrec so long?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10315487
> whats taking ixrec so long?
Translators aren't your slaves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10315487
please contain your milfautism

[Anonymous No.]

sage for kusoge

[Anonymous No.]

>>10315591
sage for kusogaki

[Anonymous No.]

>>10315591
>>10315599
BUMP!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10305947
>>10305939
You couldn't even hide your samefagging in the first two posts. How new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10306128
>Kyōsuke wa kaettekita so!
BOOOOOOORING.

Also, why has nobody noted his "then u"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10306274
>10% of a game
Hahahahahahaha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10315718
>>10315735
LB has nothing rewrite. Ive been enjoying rewrite for the whole time ive been reading it, while i had to stop all the time to take a break from the boring that is LB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10315873
whoops

[Anonymous No.]

I really like this mc, he understands healthy is better then disgusting model shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10315755
You should take a break and read a good book or two instead because your English is still fucking atrocious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10315947
Who actually tries on a image board? I just use one hand too type and post it without caring.

[Anonymous No.]

SHITPOST NOW!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10316114
Just out of curiosity, where are you from?
Smells like slav from 4ch.so/vn/

[Anonymous No.]

>>10316178
full blown American brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10315487
I think most people haven't even finished the partial yet. He's definitely releasing Moon and Terra before I finish the character routes, anyhow. His speed is much, much better than most translators so I don't really understand what you're complaining about.

[Anonymous No.]

so should i read rewrite or little busters damnit? I want to cry like clannad without being another clannad

[Anonymous No.]

>>10316777
Rewrite, little busters is meh. rewrite is a lot of fun, has better character and girls, the mc is a really cool dude. while little buster is kinda plain in all areas, its your average key game or worse i guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10316777
Little Busters is a significantly worse Clannad. Rewrite is nothing like Clannad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10316777
If you want to cry then LB is the way to go.

[Anonymous No.]

Little Bustahs is better...

[Anonymous No.]

Rewrite is great, second only to Clannad. There, I said it.

[Anonymous No.]

KitaEri is amazing in Rewrite. Fuck the haters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10318302
I don't think anyone said otherwise dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10318314
It's /jp/. I know someone, somewhere on this board will hold an opinion that conflicts with mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10318274
I agree with this. I don't understand why people don't like the common route and the heroine routes.
Akane > Lucia = Sizuru > Kotori > Chihaya
And even Chihaya's route was great, just poorly paced. Sizuru's route has one of the best endings to a route I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10318364
>>10318274
Good taste, i also have no idea how or why they hated this game the common route every one said was bad was amazingly fun and all the girls are super fun. I really dont get it at all. did everyone who read this game in japanese not like fun? its just nonstop too, no boring pauses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10318639
It's just hipsters I think. I wish I was Japanese, not because I'm a weeaboo piece of shit, but because you can discuss this shit without the elitism and hipsterism that you get in English communities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10318644
What makes you think that there aren't Japanese hipsters too? The exact same shit happens on Japanese boards. Many Japanese comment on translated 4chan threads on blogs things like "Oh god it's the same shit as here"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10318644
>I wish I was Japanese
sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>10318668
The high praise Key gets from Japan seems in direct contrast to what goes on here, simply because Key is popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10318644
yeah but what i dont get is LB was complete boring shit and all the girls were super plain, stereotypical key characters,and bad routes while rewrite is completely different and fun with a lot of interesting characters, yet lb wasn't talked about in a bad manner at all. It really weird and funny how things really turned out with rewrite. Its like the people who read it couldn't read japanese at all or they where just really boring people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10318754
Die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10318705
there are plenty of people who dislike Key and in some cases behave like the worst trolls you see around here. Hell, 2ch has "anti" threads specifically for people who want to shitsling some anime or game or whatever. Japanese internet isn't magically different, you know?
The "high praise from Japan" you're talking about is basically the equivalent of saying "the high praise Katawa Shoujo gets from the USA" or something. Cognitive dissonance ahoy

[Anonymous No.]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.]

Hmm...a question about the common route: In one scene, you see something at night and decide to chase it, and you get the choice to use your power on your legs, your eyes or not at all. What consequences does this choice have? I'm currently at the 'chased by dogs' scene again, and regardless of whether I reinforce my legs that day or not, Kotarou says his jumping limit is 185cm and he falls off. Does that choice have any consequences whatsoever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10323947
As far as I'm aware, there are no consequences. I think it's just to remind the reader his power exists and also help us understand it better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10323991
I should also note that Rewrite is full of choices like this, which provide the reader with an illusion of choice rather than actual choice. It's quite poor on the choice front, with some of the heroine ends being entirely linear. Not that I have a problem with linearity, I just have a problem with half assing choices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10323991
Ah, so there's no negative consequences for it anywhere either, like getting a bad end in some route due to using your power too much if you used it every single time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10324026
Nope. All bad ends happen quickly enough then revert you back to the previous choice.

[Anonymous No.]

I bet his nipples collaborate with the wind, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10323947
There are two noticeable things when over using kotarou's power, first one being when Chihaya tries to get that excalibur-sword out in that shop and second one when kotarou tries to crush a rock with his hand, depending on what you choose, he will have the strenght to crush it. If you didn't strenghten kotarou at all he will just fail miserably.
There's also this bad end during chihaya's route, which gives you a glimpse of what happens when you try to rewrite kotarou too much.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it even conceivable to pick anything but the third choice?