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So the Touhou 13.5 demo is out, any opinions so far? I'm downloading the demo myself.

>> No.10299808

How is this danmaku?

>> No.10299815

>>10299799
>any opinions so far?

Please.

>> No.10299823

>>10299808
It's a Gaiden game, kind of like 8.5, 10.5 or 12.5

>> No.10299836

>>10299799
Due to my expectations from playing their previous fighting games, I hated the demo.

I can't see the final release changing my opinion either. I'll probably play it for the story once a translation is out, which won't be for a long time.

Hopefully by then I'll forget how much I hated the game.

It's simply the worst "fighting" game I've ever played.

>> No.10299840

>>10299799
legs legs legs legs legs legs legs

>> No.10299881

>>10299836
As someone who plays little else but fighting games i kinda agree, I knew this game was for fanservice and a bit of fun but it feels really inferior to every other fighting touhou so far. Pretty bad considering i didn't think much of the others either.

>> No.10299884

>>10299799
Well I've finished downloading the demo, and to say the truth, I don't know what the fuck am I doing. They took the dashing button so now I'll probably go back to a pad, and apparently, all the moves can be put on any button (a la God Hand).

Holy shit, I REALLY don't know what the fuck am I doing, and it doesn't help I'm trying to play it in a toaster ;_;

>> No.10299896

I can't because I get an error screen every time I try to open it.

The error is ''0xc000007b''.

>> No.10299899

It's great.

Tourneyfags can go choke on a bag of dicks, if you play games for fun you'll like it.

>> No.10299910

>>10299799
Can't wait for this to come out. It looks gorgeous.

>> No.10299917

The only thing that bothers me are the "wings" the fairies have. I hope they fix them.

I'm just glad this game is a bit closer to the games, and not the ususal fighter formula. Looking warmly until it is released.

>> No.10299929

>>10299899
Yeah.

You only use tourneyfag in a derogatory manner because you're bad at video games. That's not their problem, and they have "fun" playing the way they do. It doesn't affect anyone else, so keep your mouth shut.

Also the game is not fun. It's about as fun as Street Fighter x Tekken, fucking time outs everywhere. Have fun floating around doing nothing interesting.

>> No.10299921

It's cute and fun but controls feel terribly unresponsive. The flying gimmick is pretty annoying too. The camera does a good job of keeping both players in focus though, considering how you can fly almost all over the place. Marisa is awesome, too.

>> No.10299927

Please condense your 13.5 threads.

>> No.10299940

>>10299929
So much autism in your post.

>> No.10299948

It's pretty and I wont mind playing it. What I'm looking forward to is seeing the rest of the characters more so than actually playing though.

>> No.10299954
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10299954

Not bad, and I would have preferred to get a STG, but at least this way unpopular characters may be able to get some love if they become playable.

I wish they revealed the final roster at least.

>>10299799

>> No.10299970

>>10299929
>Also the game is not fun

My opinion is a fact and I'm a spergmaster

>> No.10299987

Is sakuya playable? Thisll be the death of touhou for me if she is not.

>> No.10299993

>>10299987
I don't see why she would be.

>> No.10299998

I would have prefered a PoFV kind of game instead of a fighting one

>> No.10300023

>>10299970
Well I didn't expect your to admit that about yourself, but wow.

>> No.10300030

>>10299929
I'm using tourneyfag in a derogatory manner because tourneyfags are people like you.

>> No.10300035

>>10300023
He forgot the quote the phrase, referencing you.

>> No.10300041

>>10299998
Don't worry, there'll be one soon, probably after this game or the next.

>> No.10300049

>>10299987
Do you even pay any attention to characters' actual wishes and motivation? Do you really want your waifu to be beaten senseless for something she doesn't even give a footjob about that badly?

Mokou is my favorite character but you don't see me demanding her to appear. And I outright don't want some of my other favorites to appear like Reisen simply because they'd have no place in a religion war.

>> No.10300054

>>10299998
ZUN isn't the one that makes the fighting games.

>> No.10300059

>>10300041
>>10299998

Unlikely any time soon because of this game. Probably one more main regular game will be released before a Phantasmagoria one.

Hoping for it too.

>> No.10300071

>>10300035
And I was referencing how he has an opinion that the game is fun, and that I'm wrong in thinking the game isn't fun.

I told him the game isn't fun, and he's telling me the game is fun.

Two people trying to say their opinions are right.

That's what I'm fucking referencing. Do you get it now?

>> No.10300073

>>10300023
Sorry, my bad.

"My opinion is a fact and I'm a spergmaster" Anonymous poster #10299970, fighting gamer extraordinaire and Lord of Autism, 1/1/13

>> No.10300080

>>10300030
I'm hardly a "tourneyfag". I just know that this is the weakest excuse for a fighting game ever.

>> No.10300081

>>10300071
Please calm your autism.

Not that I care about it.

>> No.10300093

>>10300073
Oh look, he's doing the exact same thing he's trying to make fun of in my post!

"OH NO I CAN'T BE WRONG, HE HAS TO BE WRONG" - You.

>> No.10300097

>>10300081
You do care, else you wouldn't post about it.

Also "autism"? Bitch please. I'm normal.

>> No.10300113

>>10300093
Nope, sorry buddy, you have no idea what you are talking about.

>> No.10300114

>>10300097
You seem pretty assfrustated, i'm not either of the guys you're talking to, I just wanted to tell you that're you honestly getting a bit flustered.
As expected of normals to take things to seriously, even on the internet.

>> No.10300115

>>10300097
I don't give a fuck about what you are, assburger.

Just wanted to help you understand that thing.

>> No.10300121
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>>10300113
>>10300114
>>10300115
>>10299929
>>10299970
>>10300023
>>10300030
>>10300035
>>10300071
>>10300073
>>10300080
>>10300081
>>10300093
>>10300097

Take it easy bros. This is /jp/ - We take it easy.

Also stop derailing the thread already.

>> No.10300122

>>10300049
They could just not participate in the plot, like in hisoutensoku.

>> No.10300136

Even if the game was a serious fighter, it would never be able to generate a half-decent competitive scene.
So the issue is ultimately irrelevant.

>> No.10300153

I had no idea what I was doing and my total "competitive" experience with this game involves rushing towards the enemy and spamming, except I win because I can execute combos 50% of the time and the computer doesn't.

I hope it's able to satisfy the tourneyfags, though.

>> No.10300169

I think it's fun.

>> No.10300195

>>10300169
oh no you don't

>> No.10300221

Reimu stole Yukari's teleport trick and the number of danmaku you shoot has been drastically decreased from the last fighter

>> No.10300243

>>10300221
>Reimu stole Yukari's teleport trick
How new to touhou are you.

>> No.10300246

I enjoyed it, It's really different than Soku and the others. I don't think it's as good as a fighting game, but it's fun and enjoyable. I haven't really played it too much though. Still waiting on full roster.

>> No.10300255
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10300255

Well the fighting game is probably going to be like the rest except with the shit dial cranked up because of constant flying. Now we can spam projectiles and fly for a second I thought this was a description for a Garry's mod server not a fighting game but what do you expect from touhou fighting games.

>> No.10300283

>>10300243
I meant Yukari's mechanic where she could move from one side of the screen to the other in the fighters

>> No.10300313

>>10300255
I want to fight you in-game for posting that image.

>> No.10300359

>>10300283
She actually did this in IN first.

>> No.10300374

>>10300283
Somehow I can tell you only play the fighters.

>> No.10300377

>>10300313
Thisishoweasytopissofftouhoufantards.jpg

>> No.10300414

>>10300359
Nope, SA

>> No.10300418

>>10300377
Go board to your board faggot

>> No.10300422

>>10300359
I think you mean SA, and that was Reimu with Yukari.

>> No.10300427

>>10300422
>>10300414
Wow, you two actually are retarded, try Reimu's boss battle in IN.

>> No.10300445

>>10300427
He meant that as a mechanic that the player can use.

>> No.10300462

>>10300049
The point was to play my waifu to beat other people senseless. And two, a religion war will have an effect on everyone in gensokyo.

>> No.10300526 [DELETED] 

>>10300418
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF WHAT DID YOU FUCKING CALL ME?
A FAGGOT?
DO YOU FUCKING KN OW WHAT FAGGOT EVEN MEANS? IT MEANS A HOMOSEXUAL. A FUCKING QUEER. A WHOOPSY. A PRANCING LALA FRUITY BOY. YOU COME HERE, AND CALL ME FUCKING THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY GIGABYTES OF PORNOGRAPHY FEATURING ONLY FUCKING !!!FEMALES!! I HAVE? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY TIMES A DAY I MASTURBATE TO THIS COLLECTION, HOW MANY HOURS I SPEND EXPANDING IT? NO, NO YOU FUCKING DON'T, YOU JUST COME IN HERE AND MAKE A FUCKING JUDGEMENT ON ME LIKE YOu"RE SOME KIND OF JUDGER OF FAGS WHEN I STILL SMELL OF THE SEMEN FROM JACKING IT TO THE PUSSY OF A FUCKING FEMALE THIS BOARD ISN"T FUCKING /GAY/ ALRIGHT IT'S /JP/, NEWSFLASH, JAPAN HAS SEX TOO, OTHERWISE JAPAN WOULD NOT EXIST AS A FUCKING COUNTRY WITH PEOPLE IN YOU PREJUDICED PIECE OF SHIT

WHIPE THAT SMILE OFF YOUR FUCKING FACE. I BET I HAVE AT LEAST TEN TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PICTURES OF VAGINA YOU DO, FAGGOT FAG FAG FRUITY WHOOPSY DOO-DOO LAA LAA SCOUT BOY GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

>> No.10300537

>>10300526
At least you are kind enough to sage ;)

>> No.10300548

>>10300537

But you don't, making you worse than him.

>> No.10300546
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10300546

This game is shit, i hate it.
Just fanservice shit, just check this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Baazgkh2KLM

>> No.10300760

I looks great but I'm not sure if I like the increased focus on CQC in lieu of danmaku.

>> No.10300878

Shinto: Reimu, Sanae, maybe Suwako, unlikely Kanako

Buddhism: Ichirin, Byakuren, Shou

Taoism: Miko, Futo, probably Seiga (with Yoshika as assistance)

Others: Marisa, probably Aya, maybe Suika, maybe Keine (though I don't think it'll happen), and 2 extra characters because why not.

Total: 10-14 (10 to 12 more likely)

For some odd reason I think Koishi may have chance to become playable.
Others: Marisa

>> No.10300881

I hope for playable Kasen.

>> No.10300884

>>10300878
Oh, and 1 or 2 new characters.

>> No.10300896

>>10300878
Ignore the "others: Marisa" in the end.

>> No.10300913

Reimu's
Lewd
Thighs

>> No.10300921

>>10300913
Dat win pose. When did Reimu get so sassy?

>> No.10300930

legs

>> No.10300949

People who say this game is terrible more than likely have no idea what they were doing in the game.

>Timeouts everywhere

Point proven. If you're that bad that you can't beat your opponent before time runs out, then of course you're not going to have fun.

I've played the game for three hours straight. It was a blast, and I loved it. It was a unique fighting game that rivals many out there.

Or you can just be one of those people who have no fun with anything and hate it solely because you want to stay faithful to the other fighting games / you wanted an STG game.

However, this is, of course, my opinion, and others have the right to their opinion. To whom I would say "I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong."

>> No.10300981

Does this game have any of the traditional fighting game tactics or does it provide any new tactics? Mix ups, cross ups, high-risk-high-reward moves, etc.

Without anything like that, I don't see how the game could be fun.

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10300986

you'll have fun with Unzan OP.

>> No.10300999

>>10300981
The game's popularity system is all about high risk movement. The more risks you take, the more popularity you will gain, but only if your risky moves work. Let's say, for instance, you charge in and land a sick combo on the opponent. That's good popularity. However, if you charge in and get hit yourself like a blind idiot, you'll lose popularity, fast.

Also, the game doesn't have "low" attacks. Instead, the game has the ability to 'jump' down. The middle point of the screen acts as the 'land', and you can jump up and down, and control where your opponent goes with your attacks.

>> No.10301001

>>10300981
8 directional movement. You can "jump" downwards, and to accommodate for this, there are attacks that aim at downward angles. Thus, this changes up the classic mix of groundgame+antiair uppercuts, ect.

And your Last Word is kinda like Instant kill in that if you miss, you are rather screwed but are very powerful, so that's certainly high-risk. At the same time, there are comeback mechanisms that help you out.

>> No.10301021

>>10300999
I hadn't noticed you can lose/gain "popularity" just by moving. Retreating sure costs a damn lot.

>> No.10301024

>>10301021
Yeah, the entire game is high-risk rewards/misfortune.

>> No.10301048

>>10300986
Can somebody give her me movelist with inputs? I had a combo down yesterday (A string into Flurry into Ring Toss) But now the flurry punch input isnt working for me, I guess I had it wrong.

>> No.10301106

>>10301048
Her movelist inputs are the same as everyone else's. C(C on Keyboard)/Z(D on Keyboard)+Any cardinal direction.

You are able to customize which move goes to which button input. It's not set in stone, nor do you have to spam hadouken motion.

With Ichirin, you're probably using the default set up (the purple diamond after choosing the character), so it would be C+Up.

To customize it however you'd like, go to profile, and select the first option, then select the profile you would like to customize her for. Go all the way down to the third character and select the first option (which equals the purple diamond). There you could see the movelists and which buttons they are on, and you can customize them however you'd like.

Go to http://wiki.rei.mu/shinkirou:ichirin for more information on the character.

>> No.10301119

>>10299954
Does Ichirin wear pantsu

>> No.10301132

>>10301119
She wears clouds.

>> No.10301154

>>10301106
>http://wiki.rei.mu/shinkirou:ichirin
many thanks man!

>> No.10301162

>>10301154
No problem. I've written most of the combos you see there, so if you have any questions, I'll be here all night.

>> No.10301219

>>10299954
>>10299954
Ichirin looks muscular.

>> No.10301222

In general, I hate this game. As someone who plays fighting games quite a bit I find it disappointing in every way. The movement is dumb, lack of 8 way airdashing or hyper jump cancelling makes it feel sluggish as hell when throwing out bullets since it's really slow to move out of them and what you can do afterwards is grossly limited. Just like hisouten, too, the amount of space you have to move places on the screen is huge. That, combined with the slow cancelling, makes throwing bullets to lock people down feel like pulling teeth, it takes forever to get anywhere. So you spend 90% of the match floating around throwing pretty little lights at eachother and nothing's really happening. I really don't expect the final version of the game to change this much.

I understand the game's not particularly made for "hardcore" fighting game players, but I don't understand why we can't just have another Immaterial and Missing Power. That's still Touhou and it's a good game, and I figure everyone that doesn't care about fighting games is fine with it as long as it's touhou anyways.

It's a shame cause I really think Ichirin's kind of cool. Would love to play as her in a game that's better than this, and I'm sure the rest of the full cast will make me think that even more.... It's depressing.

>> No.10301231

>>10301222
Thank you.

>> No.10301250

>>10301222
I have to disagree with you. The game has many, -many- cancels, and if you don't know what you're doing, you will easily be punished by those who do.

I'd suggest you play it more and find out everything there is to offer in the game before coming to a conclusion. If you did, I apologize, but I think this game is better than the past fighters. At least, it has the potential to be.

>> No.10301275

At least it doesn't have retarded gimmicks like weather. ANYTHING, but weather. And you gotta admit, the sprites were a huge improvement.

>> No.10301279

>>10301222
I wonder what happens when your character gets a blue aura around herself.

>> No.10301292

>>10301275
No, you/I do not.
Ichirin's sprites are good just for being so unexpected, but Reimu and Marisa look dull, unlike just about everything in SWR/Hisou.

>> No.10301291

Now I can say I liked Ichirin before she was cool

>> No.10301309

>>10301292
Yeah, unlike those painfully simple sprites that looked generic and lame in SWR/Hisou, I agree.

>> No.10301319

>>10301309
If you think SWR/Hisou sprites were generic, I just have no idea what to say to you.

>> No.10301343 [DELETED] 

>>10301309
They do. They're too simple. They're extremely 2-Dimensional. They're flat as a board. They lack depth. Some of them have awkward palettes.

They're just shit compared to HM's sprites, which are full of life and color.

>> No.10301347

>>10301222
If anything, I can't believe spellcard declaration made a comeback from IaMP.

I simply cannot understand the appeal of declaring you're about to do a super move. Some supers are hard enough to use effectively as they are without flamboyantly telegraphing them.

But anyways, Touhou fighters tend to be different and need time to adapt. I was pretty aghast at lack of throws when I first started playing them, but after spending a ton of time with soku and then playing Guilty Gear X other fighters suddenly felt super sluggish because I couldn't dash through projectiles, and it had become my instinct to do so.

Right now the changes are grating on your fighting game instincts. Try it some more and experiment. Maybe you'll just never like it, but sometimes it becomes more enjoyable once you adapt to the system.

>> No.10301364

>>10301319
They do. They're too simple. They're extremely 2-Dimensional. They're flat as a board. They lack depth. Some of them have awkward palettes.

They're just shit compared to HM's sprites, which are full of life and color. They also lack motion. Most of the time I'm sitting there looking at how dull and lifeless SWR/Hisou's sprites are just because they have minimal movement.

>> No.10301398

Crashes for me when I try to open.

>> No.10301416

>>10301347
It actually makes it pretty cool. During any one round, after you pull of a spell cardl, you cannot use that same special again until the next round. I believe this gives a sense of difficulty, as you cannot just spam the same spell card over and over again to get results. You have to think about when you declare them, then set it up so that they actually hit, and then wonder how you're going to attack them again after that same spell card is now gone until the next round.

>> No.10301541

I'm having a blast messing around with the new movement and spellcards. It's also nice to see a new character in the fighters. However, I can see high level matches getting silly with a damage/popularity mixup instead of a high/low mixup. Also, having no netplay for the demo is disappointing. Either way, I can't wait to mess around with the full version.

>> No.10301594

>>10301222
>I understand the game's not particularly made for "hardcore" fighting game players, but I don't understand why we can't just have another Immaterial and Missing Power. That's still Touhou and it's a good game

I feel like Tasofro main goal is making a fighting game that totally unique and matches more with "flying girls" theme. IaMP only had air dashes, SWR added 8 way flight, and now Tasofro pretty much says "Fuck the ground" and has you fight in mid air the whole match.

I'm guessing that incorporating flight into a fighting game is far more important for them than trying to build upon a previous formula. Otherwise, we would have just seen expansions to IaMP with a few extra characters and spellcars.

>> No.10301668

Does the demo have online?

>> No.10301675

>>10301668
No.

>> No.10301752

>>10301119
maebari

>> No.10303662

Goddamn it's slow. Fuck my laptop. Is there a way to increase the FPS?

>> No.10303723

>>10303662
Get a mac™.

>> No.10303736

>>10303723
Some folks are not independently wealthy.

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