NEET Retirement plan

[Anonymous No.]

>Work as software development engineer
>Earn $100,000 annually
How many years would I have to work and how much would I need to save before I could just become a fully self sufficient NEET, and never have to be bothered with people again?
Anyone else dream of this?

[Anonymous No.]

You have to actually get said job first

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297428
I have said job..

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297430
Then you'd actually be able to work out the maths.

[Anonymous No.]

If you live alone, and can cook for yourself, you will reduce your living costs to nearly nothing.

The question is what luxuries do you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>Work as software development engineer
>Earn $100,000 from one project
>Never get a project for the next 5 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297433
I'm not sure what cost of living in Japan would be, wondering how low you could cut those costs down while still living a relatively comfortable life (running water, internet, electricity, etc)

Sorry I wasn't more specific, anon

[Anonymous No.]

isn't that just a "retirement plan"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297436
>Salaried employee

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297438
Why would you want to live in Japan? There's much better options.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297445
A warped childhood dream that's stuck with me. Really anywhere that I could cut off everyone from my current life would work I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to school for EE and I've honestly lost all passion for it (in my 4th out of 5 years and I'm getting more lazy). I just want a cushy job with good pay after graduation. I plan to live as cheaply as I do now (hobo-level spending) so I can have a NEET retirement plan.
What's the least effort per money earned in a field related to EE? I'm thinking a power job? I know they've got great job stability

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297450
Going for masters degree or something?

[Anonymous No.]

If you're so rich how about sparing a few bucks for a truNEET

In return they can bestow upon you a jewel of their wisdom.

[Anonymous No.]

($10,000 / year) x (30 years) = $300,000.

$300,000 / ($100,000 / year) = 3 years.

You could work for three years and live my life for the next thirty years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297457
TruNEET advice
Rule 1) don't give away your money to people on the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

the hardest part is finding a job
also, if you're living alone
get a 1 room studio apartment or maybe just a bedroom/kitchen/bathroom setup for cheap (fairly good deal, even in cities)

then biggest issue after that is medical insurance if you're in US or Japan

internet and utilities aren't actually too much, maybe 300 a month tops

If you bike to work or take public transport that's also quite a big saving

then taxes is also a big thing, adds up to at least 600 per month in the US

you could probably easily live off it for 3 years at least though

but it's safer to just keep looking for jobs the whole time

it would be best if that one guy who said he worked half year as electrician then spent other half doing nothing were around, he sounds like hes good at planning finances

there's also the issue of supporting your hobbies creators instead of pirating
(games, books, anime, other shows, movies, are good ones to have and then support a game if a smaller company or author makes something that you like)

but it would probably better to just invest it at a bank or stock and make more off of it and keep working while young

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297458

The world is unfair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297458
If I could live on $0 for 3 years, then I would be willing to save 100% of my income per year. But if I could do that, then id just start living my 0 cost lifestyle right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297459
you forgot maintenance costs

You also forgot two big things:
predictable unpredictasble events, such as your computer suddenly dying on you, you suddenly falling ill, etc.
unpredictable unpredictable: if an earthquake strikes nearby, or the ground gets contaminated, if thunder strikes your house, etc

If you're not prepared for those to a minor degree, any plan is a failure before it even begins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297459
This is all great advice, my concern is this: say I save enough to live comfortable for a few years without a job in Japan (is that even possible, or would you be deported?) Now say I need to find a job. How likely is it that I could find another employer in Japan that would be on par with my current working quality of life? Are there many large high paying software development firms in Japan? Do they hire white foreigners?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297462
I've been a career student for the past 9 years. Expecting decent returns for my hard work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297474
Doing what?

[Anonymous No.]

Live in a small apartment, minimize your expenses, get it down to a healthy and convenient food palette that you can live with indefinitely, and cut out all expenses that aren't involved in the maintenance of your computer and internet.

There are tokyo apartments that are as cheap as $300 a month because they're atrociously tiny and inconvenient with like a ten minute walk to the nearest train station and no parking. But you get everything you need to live in the internet and leave meatspace behind.

Get your expenses down to $600 a month maintaining a selfbuilt computer and bike, and you can retire for 50 years on about 4 years of your stated wage. Assuming $92k savings per year. You should also work on immigrating to a country with universal healthcare first, though, so plan for working at least 10 years to get through the process of earning citizenship in another country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297462
Just work in software. It's insane how much we get paid for what we do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297475
Going to Uni. There was a period of two years in between that I was NEET. I changed my major twice after investing significant amounts of time in them. I failed out of one major and that cost me another two years. Then the other major cost me a year. That's five years total that I haven't been progressing.

Hopefully things are more streamlined for me from now on.

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>>10297477
I'm still learning the language, I expect that to take me another year. Do I need to be fluent before starting the 10 year citizenship process? And doesn't acquiring citizenship require moving to the country and living there for some extended period of time?

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>>10297485
Oh I thought you were doing a higher degree than a bachelors. I suppose if you meet the right people while you're there and have the motivation to land a job once you're out, it'll turn out for you, but if that isn't the case then welcome massive debts.

[Anonymous No.]

First of all, you have to think about how you're going to be able to stay in Japan.
You'll probably get a working visa, which means you'll have to get some kind of job, something more than part-time convenience store kind of thing. Correct me if I am wrong.

Moneywise, it depends how much you save annually. Say you earn 100k
taxes cut it to 70k(?)
annual rent cost: 10k(?)
food/living: 5k
unexpected bills/emergencies: 5k
You could save approx 50k a year, maybe more like 30-50k

If you end up saving like this for 10 years, I'm sure you'll be living fine with 300-500k in your account for a long while. Still need to make smart investments as you go to keep it alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297485
Use your wisdom from attending the university for that long to get involved in university organizations, events, or council. Getting a degree is kind of a bare minimum when it comes to landing a job. Employers won't care if all you have to show is grades and a diploma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297493
I used a lot of broad assumptions there, based off of my own living expenses.

Also you want to have money in japan not for living costs, but the outrageous prices for otaku goods.
Gotta have plenty to create your shelves of figurines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297488

You'll have to get a working visa, which in practice will require you be very fluent in the language. Then you'll work towards citizenship.

The process will take about 10 years, like I said, but you'll probably be able to do it if you really set your mind to it, since you have in-demand credentials.

It sucks trying to get out of America. Most of us are stuck here for life. Go and be free, that the rest of us may live vicariously through you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297494
I know this. I'll probably end up NEET for the rest of my life after I graduate. It's a pessimistic view, but still a possibility.Grad school would seem like nothing considering the time I spent in undergrad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297506
What majors did you switch from and end up getting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297456
yeah, planning on it

[Anonymous No.]

Japan needs to create a NEET exchange program.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297511
Environmental Management -> Biochemistry -> Biology

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297506
I was going to go to grad school myself, because my biochem degree is worthless, but when I realized you really have to want it to get your masters. Can't just sit around get by like your undergrad, actually have to have passion for the subject.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297514
Looks like you moved in the right direction with respect to usefulness of degree.

[Anonymous No.]

>unrealistic weebs think they will move to japan

every january 1st

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297515
Oops was trying to say that when I realized how much you have to want it, it really put me off even bothering.

[Anonymous No.]

>neet retirement

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297517

You're being cranky again, grandpa. If you can pull $100k, you can move out of the country.

Only poor people and NEETs are stuck.

[Anonymous No.]

Reimu, being a shrine maiden of considerable power I would guess she possesses

some intrinsic purity in regards to most things, likely that her anus is clean

and lacks of hair judging from the rest of the body.

Marisa, a tough case, she's known for taking baths while reading though I can't

remember this source specifically. However if one assumes Marisa has a diet that

consists primarily of mushrooms then she has very good fiber intake which would

make sure her poops and subsequent wipes are in the lighter side. So relatively

clean I would guess. Ass hair presence however is a mystery. If one considers

her rivalry with Reimu then Marisa might have a habit of shaving her body just

to keep up, but verifying this is impossible.

Rumia, somewhat similar to a roaming hungry beast, she most likely eats a lot

and she can't see very well due to her ever present darkness that only goes away

on red moons. Most likely never wipes or not well enough due to not being able

to see in the dark. Entire butt most likely covered in fecal matter.

Daiyousei and Cirno, being fairies which lack most biological needs they

probably need not ever poop or sweat nor have any of the more disgusting

biological functions of a regular human body. So it is very likely they have

neat and tidy anuses.

Hong Meiling, stands outside of a gate most of the day so she only has the

opportunity to poop and wash in the mornings or night. If she does both daily

then it would be wisest to poop first and take a bath afterwards. Assuming most

days it isn't very hot due to the heat mitigating nature of the Misty Lake and

that Meiling sleeps most of the time, she quite possibly won't get very hot or

sweaty as well. So most of the time it is likely she has a clean anus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297521
So a good portion of the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297522

At least 90%. But if OP is being honest, he won't have much trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

Koakuma, a minor demon, the fecal specifics of demonic beings are not that known

I would fathom. Finding information on this is also rather difficult as any

attempts at investigating just brings up the shit demon from Dogma. However

demons aren't very known for decent anything so there's a decent chance that

Koakuma isn't very decent at the wiping thing, however her summoner, Patchouli,

probably made her start doing it once she summoned her and bound her to her

service. How well she does it now depends on how long she's been in service now

and has been acclimated to more proper habits. So anus cleanliness is a function

of how long she's been in Patchouli's service.

Patchouli, if one assumes she skips out on eating then it's also likely she

doesn't poop that much either. Patchouli also has mentions of waterproofing

books and reading them in the bath as well so it's known she bathes. Thinking

about it, Marisa most likely gets her bath reading books from Patchouli. Skinny

anemic Patchouli would most likely have a clean anus, but she probably wouldn't

put any effort towards shaving it so there's a good chance of it being hairy.

Sakuya, she has all the time in the world and she uses it. Her personal hygiene

is most likely perfect befitting her status as a perfect maid. She probably even

shaves her anus using her own knives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297524

Aw, kawaisota.

He's spamming things he doesn't like to enforce his preferences. I remember when I still impotently raged against the behavior of others.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

You're not a NEET if you're "retired"

Go be normal and stupid elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

Remilia, a vampire which has a diet consisting mostly of blood and cake, blood

contains many elements that can't go through the urinary tract and no fiber,

cake also lacks fiber. Remilia most likely has very thin waterish poops similar

to diarrhea. Waterish diarrhea however is also one of the easiest poops to clean

after. There's also a chance that Sakuya helps wipe Remilia however even Remilia

would have too much pride for that, but considering the fact that Sakuya can

freeze time, Sakuya might just wipe and shave Remilia's anus for the hell of it.

Flandre, has the same diet as Remilia so the same applies, however she spends

her time entirely in the basement. Does it have a bathroom down there and does

she know how to wipe? If they lock her up there and the only time Sakuya comes

down is to bring food then there's a good chance Flandre is self reliant for

hygienical matters. However Flandre has the advantage of being able to duplicate

herself. This could possibly result in a situation where she splits into four

and stands around in a circle where each Flandre wipes another Flandre's butt,

even shave possibly. Anus cleanliness depends on Flandre's concerns on the

matter personally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297528
>>10297524
>>10297529
>>10297532

Just report, stop embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

Letty Whiterock, something one would have to factor in considerably is the fact

she manages to hibernate throughout seasons spring through fall and only awakens

in the summer. This would mean she would have the metabolic abilities of a bear

and be able to develop a fetal plug for the entirety she is sleeping. She would

however have to poop this fetal plug out every winter once she wakes up. I can

imagine Cirno visiting every time Letty wakes up while Letty is having her

yearly super shit. might be why she finds Cirno annoying. I imagine Letty would

have bodily functions and abilities similar to that of a black bear. During the

period before hibernation, bears stop eating for those few days and lose

activity until they eventually decide to start hibernating. Bears are pretty

amazing for being able to stay in a period of doing absolutely nothing for so

long without dying. Letty even more so for doing it about 3 times as long. So

during a good portion of the year Letty is perfectly free of most of the

biological functions the body performs normally. So during non winter seasons

her anus is probably pretty clean from lack of pooping and sweating as she

sleeps if she washes up well before entering hibernation. However we don't know

how well she washes up during winter. I searched up bear hygiene habits, but

could not find anything regarding them so I am at a loss for Letty's hygienic

habits. For anus hairiness, hair growth is faster in summer and slower in

winter, since Letty is entirely inactive during every season but winter, her

anus hair most likely grows unchecked so it's probably quite hairy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297503
You were pretty accurate, but I don't save nearly that much. Too much spending on otaku shit. Ill have to cut that out and get serious about saving. Maybe try to start a dry run of how I expect to live if I were to move.

[Anonymous No.]

Nazrin, a rat youkai, I ended up reading some rat dietary information pages for

this. Apparently most rats are lactose intolerant and cheese gives them runny

stool. They are also incapable of burping or vomiting. If one assumes Nazrin

favors cheese then there's a good chance it gives her the runs a lot. This makes

it so she probably has to go to the bathroom more than normal. Doing more

research and rat cleaning habits and it turns out they're very habitual

groomers. Apparently in groups if a rat doesn't groom itself properly, other

rats will pin that rat down and do the grooming themselves. Apparently this high

importance on grooming is a show of dominance and since Nazrin appears to be the

leader of her rats one should assume she places high importance on the act

herself. She shows herself as a responsible person as well even being more

professional than her superior, Shou. Anus cleanliness is probably fairly high

despite the fact she probably gets the runs more often than not due to a like

for cheese.

[Anonymous No.]

Kogasa, an umbrella youkai, yeah, I can't really figure out the pooping habits

of an umbrella so all I have to go on is Kogasa's personality and the fact her

umbrella is based off eggplants. Eggplants are high in fiber content, but just

because it's her umbrella color doesn't mean Kogasa eats it all the time

however. Might even creep her out possibly. So we have no real idea about her

diet. However if we consider the fact she's an item that goes without an owner

we can possibly assume she does not receive maintenance or cleaning. Meaning her

anus is relatively unkempt. She also likes surprising people and farting can be

a very surprising act. However she's not very good at surprising people so she

may not know this. Overall anus is probably uncleaned and unshaven. If somebody

takes good care of the umbrella portion though then the human portion might

change to reflect that. So if you're of the belief that Sanae has taken Kogasa

as her own umbrella and takes proper care of it then there's a good chance

Kogasa's anus is clean now. Battered too, if you're also of the belief Sanae is

a sadist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297536

It's not really a dry run though. It's permanent. It's like a diet. It's not a temporary state of affairs. It's a permanent lifestyle change to ensure that you can hack it indefinitely.

[Anonymous No.]

>2014
>BEING A NEET

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297541

truNEET4lyfe.

[Anonymous No.]

>She also likes surprising people and farting can be a very surprising act
I laughed. I never noticed this before

[Anonymous No.]

Is it so shocking to believe that some people like to minimize their human interaction as much as possible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297550
yes

[Anonymous No.]

Ichirin, pretty damn human in appearance and ability it looks like really, I

also can't understand her connection to her legend that well either other than

being a messenger who uses clouds. Her ability is use of Unzan so I take that as

meaning she just uses Unzan for a lot of shit. Including cleaning her shit quite

possibly. Since Unzan is a cloud with amorphous form that means he can get every

last bit and even function as an enema quite possibly. Ichirin's anus is quite

clean if she's willing to use Unzan for that purpose.

Unzan, he is a cloud, he doesn't even have an anus.

Murasa, the ghost of a drowned ship captain. As a ghost she probably gets a free

pass to this pooping thing, however for this analysis we will assume she does so

anyways. Murasa likes scooping water and flinging it so if she were to poop,

there is a good chance of her splashing water onto her anus like a bidet. Anus

is likely higher than average in cleanliness if she does poop. However she might

do this anyways even without pooping so spotless anus if she doesn't poop.

[Anonymous No.]

Shou, a tiger youkai that worships Bishamonten, a difficult analysis, but it

seems tigers groom well and poop in water when they get the chance. Her worship

of Bishamonten provides no insight into her pooping habits sadly. If we were to

assume Nazrin as the dominant one in their relationship, there is a good chance

Nazrin would clean Shou by force if Shou slacks on such matters. Reading up

Shou's backstory however it seems after Byakuren was sealed that Shou maintained

a facade as a human for a very long time as a disciple of Bishamonten. That

means she's used to the way of human pooping and cleaning. However taking into

account her loss of her most prized and important possession she's also

considered clumsy and forgetful, but that's what Nazrin is there for. So she

likely keeps good care of her anus and in the event she forgets, Nazrin does so

for her.

Byakuren, a Bhuddist monk, there's really not much to theorize. One would assume

normal human pooping habits and cleaning with the regularity and discipline of a

monk. Since she was one to keep up pretenses there's a chance she didn't even

fart in public and avoided rude behavior in general.

Nue, the poop of the Nue is unknown. Her anus is as well. It could appear

positively spotless to some and absolutely disgusting to others. One might not

even realize Nue's poop is poop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297514
I don't know, other than med school/dental/nursing or teacher, I wouldn't know what to do with a biology degree.
What can you do with a biology degree?

[Anonymous No.]

Chen, a nekomata in shikigami service. Chen hates water, but is a cat. Cats are

normally clean enough to poop where it's better for them to poop like

litterboxes so she probably goes to the toilet. However, she hates water, not

only as a cat, but as a shikigami as well. This means she probably showers or

bathes not all that much. Wiping works well enough to get rid of the shit on

your anus, but not even the most thorough of wiping will make sure to get rid of

all the shit on your anus after a poop. It takes water and soap to make sure

that not a trace of shit remains. Chen's anus is probably wiped regularly after

poops, but still not all that clean due to the fact Chen rarely bathes or

showers. Not only her anus will not be that clean, but her entire body as

well. Unless Ran makes sure Chen washes up then Chen's probably very smelly.

Alice, a magician who resides in the Forest of Magic. Alice most likely holds

herself up to standards based on her peers. Patchouli shouldn't be too hard to

be more clean than as Patchouli is perfectly fine smelling of patchouli. However

if Marisa holds herself to standards of being as clean as Reimu at least then

Alice will most likely be at those standards as well to not fall behind Marisa

in terms of cleanliness. It'd be pretty shameful to lose out to a human in both

magic and hygiene so as long as Marisa keeps herself clean then Alice will

likely keep herself clean as well. However even if Marisa were a filthy girl,

Alice would probably clean well anyways to not be grouped in with that "magic

hobo who lives in the forest". So Alice would probably have a clean anus. If

Alice likes the smooth form of her dolls' bodies, there's also a good chance she

shaves down there as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297554

You realize the thread would probably die if you'd shut up, right?

Let the impotent rage go, and embrace the post-rage crash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297558
Work at a fast food place

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297562
Meaningful work and rage don't necessarily have very much to do with each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297521
>2013
>living in america at all
You should have made a reroll, n00b.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297570

DM wasn't allowing mulligans the day I rolled my toon. Don't bully.

[Ruby !!iPJbBu5S79g No.]

Spend about 40k a year on basic needs and save 60k a year in various stocks that have an average dividend of 2-3% per year. After about 20 years, just quit and live off the dividends alone. By then you should own your own house anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

The sheer volume of poop copypasta is impressive. Well done, shitposter!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297576
He's not the shitposter we deserve

[Anonymous No.]

The Prismrivers, poltergeist musicians. As ghosts, they get a free pass on

this. And honestly, I know so little about them relevant to this subject I

couldn't make an analysis even if I tried.

Youmu, half-ghost swordsman. Her human half is most definitely biological to

some degree. So her pooping and cleaning habits should be somewhat

normal. However, her ghost half can make things more interesting. It has been

shown to be able to function as a spectral duplicate of herself. This means that

Youmu's ghost half is somewhat amorphous and able to take on other shapes. It

would be able to help her wipe in its duplicate form, but in amorphous forms in

general it would be capable of doing anything Unzan can do. Which can include

anal scraping and enemas. Thinking about it, another possibility would be

swallowing it and then letting it clean your intestines as it goes through your

body. I should've thought about the possibilities more when I was still on

Ichirin. Thinking about it, unlike Unzan, Myon wouldn't even need to be

swallowed as it's a ghost and can simply go spectral through Youmu's body. This

can be incredibly helpful if Youmu's suffering some constipation and needs help

pushing it out. Depending on Youmu's use of her ghost half, her anus and

intestines in general can be very clean. Also if Youmu enjoys her work as a

gardener there's a good chance she trims away whatever hair grows down below.

Yuyuko, a hungry ghost, eating so much that if she did poop then there would be

no toilet that could possibly survive. The food she eats seems to go into the

void however. As a ghost she eats needlessly. So wasteful. Good chance she

doesn't poop at all. However if she does then her anus is most likely wrecked

from her number 2 sessions.

[Anonymous No.]

Ran, a fox youkai and a shikigami. Specifically a kitsune meaning she has 9

tails. This is the crux of the matter. This would make sitting on a toilet near

impossible the normal way. Meaning she would have to sit in reverse on

toilets. As a shikigami, she would also be averse to washing with water as

well. Wiping would also be pretty difficult as her tails in the way. This would

make cleaning up nightmarish for Ran. As well as expensive considering all the

tail fur she would need to wash. Thinking about it, she would possibly be even

less hygienic than Chen. Unwiped anus, tail closest to ass somewhat stained,

doesn't bathe or shower. Thinking about it logically, she would be quite

filthy. Especially her anus. And even if hair didn't grow on her anus, it would

still most likely be covered in fallen off tail fur most of the time.

Yukari, gap youkai that controls boundaries. Taking her powers to the logical

extreme, she would be able to simply gap out her shit into the void. However,

assuming she likes the act of squeezing through gaps, she might shit for the

hell of it just to feel her shit squezing out her anus and asscheeks. For

wiping, she could manipulate the boundary of clean and not clean or the boundary

between shit and her asscheeks. There's a lot of ways she could do it

really. Her entire physical form is modifiable by this power if you word it to

use the word boundary. Yukari's anus would be as clean and smooth as she wills

it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297587

Good job, thread was idle for four minutes before you revived it.

You're terrible at this.

[Anonymous No.]

The janitor couldn't delete the thread before he banned me for spamming/flooding. Bravo!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10297590,1
Did you really expect to get away with it?