/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Not really sure if this is the right board, but I need to learn Japanese fluently in one year. How do I do it?

[Anonymous No.]

Suck a lot of Japanese cocks, and you'll pick it up intuitively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271466
SUGOI OH CHIN CHIN

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271466
Jesus Christ, please go back to /b/. Don't you have anything better to do?

[Anonymous No.]

1. Grind Hiragana and Katakana
2. Grind all jouyou kanji (meaning only) i.e 水 - water
3. Grind through all of Tae Kim, basic - advanced grammar
4. Grind all of the vocab off the Japanese CorePlus Deck(25000 words approx.)

enjoy ur VNs

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271474
You can start with mine

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271466
made me lol
>>10271477
Tae Kim? is it some sort of like learning method?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271486
Grammar guide. The Japanese CorePlus Deck can be DLed off Anki.

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>>10271461
If you need to go that far to impress a girl, she's not worth your time. And if you need to bullshit your way into a girl's pants, you're the kind of human being that doesn't deserve help.

[Anonymous No.]

a year for actual fluency is impossible

[Anonymous No.]

You won't be 'fluent' in three years, let alone one

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>>10271474
I'm not her. But certainly you don't have much better things to do than her. Regardless of where she comes from. Actually I'm spilling way too much of my own emotion into this post. But I was just concerned of what we spend our time upon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271496
>>10271501
I'll make it happen.
>>10271497
LOL FUCK NO. Dad moving to Japan for a year or two for work, I want to go study a year abroad.

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>>10271504

What the fuck are you talking about?

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>>10271509

'i'll make it happen'. lol

delusional line of thinking

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271501
Stop projecting, I got fluent in 2days, nerd.

[Anonymous No.]

Study for 6+ hours a day.
When you're not actively studying, whatever you do should be completely in Japanese. Watch unsubbed Japanese television, listen to Japanese radio, read Japanese literature, just make sure you read and hear as little English as possible for the entire year.
If you do that, at the end of the year you might be fluent. I don't really know, I've never done it. That seems like the only way you'll have a chance at getting fluent that fast though.

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>>10271513
I've got a lot of spare time.

[Anonymous No.]

The problem is your focusing on the things in life that don't really matter. When I was a kid I had hopes and dreams. We all did. But over time, the daily grind gets in the way and you miss the things that really matter, even though they are right in front of you, staring you in the face. I think the next time you should ask yourself "Am I on the right track here?". I don't mean to be rude but people like you I really pity. So maybe you could use the few brain cells you have and take advantage of the knowledge I have given you now. Good luck.

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>>10271477

I've been doing this for about a year, at least 2-3 hours a day, and I'm nowhere near fluent. I can read manga without having to look up too many words (depending on subject) but it's not fluency, and since I don't really practice speaking at all my ability to 'think' in Japanese is pretty much nonexistent, i.e. it's very hard for me to create sentences easily, etc. Also you pretty much have to grind listening to native speakers (via anime, whatever - without subs) for many thousands of hours in order to gain listening comprehension. Although saying that I have no interest in anime so I've never watched it except for that purpose, maybe people who previously watched a lot of anime already have the inherent brain structure for slowing down Japanese to be comprehensible.

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>>10271526

do you have the ability to time travel, too? if so, you're golden for fluency in one year. if not, it won't happen

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>>10271529
Disinfo.

[Anonymous No.]

Fluency in a year is impossible, let alone 3 or 4 years.

The ability to read VNs in a year is possible though.
Keep in mind that this is probably in the 3-5 hours a day count, if not more.

RTK/Kanjidamage all kanji - approx. 1 month
Grammar - approx. 1 month(only really need to learn conjugations and the various uses of particles)
Vocab - approx. 10 months(20000 words, more than enough for VNs)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271509

Spend every waking hour of every day for the next year learning, reading, writing, speaking and listening to Japanese. Just try to get as much experience with the language as you possible can. Read through every Japanese site you can find.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271529
lol what?
Learning a new language is wrong nowadays?>>10271535
ya, don't worry about it

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>>10271531

I haven't spent a day of my life learning sinful gook bullshit but I can hear every word in anime pretty distinctly.

Not in Japanese television or other things, though. They talk with more clarity in anime.

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>>10271538

You do NOT need 20,000 words to read VNs.

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>>10271543

You probably just think you can, I doubt you can repeat syllable for syllable what they say except when they're just yelling some lone word like "baka" or whatever the fuck they yell. I don't really watch anime much though so I dunno.

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>>10271542
Did you know that what you are talking about is limited by your false sense of reality?

Maybe if you studied just a little bit harder while in school you wouldn't be blinded by these fallacies that have cast a cloud over your judgment. I once knew a guy like you who had everything he could ever want but in the end it meant nothing, because he never knew his true place in the grand scheme of things.

I'm not trying to tell you how to live your life but, honestly buddy I think it's time you stepped down off of your high horse and looked life square in the eyes

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>>10271550
If you want to read Muramasa or Dies Irae you might have to. But 5000-10k is probably enough. Moege is easily readable at around 4500.

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>>10271561
Speech in VNs and games is just as easy to understand. It's all about exposure.

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>>10271561
then tell me, what do I have to lose by trying?
seems like you never got anywhere because you never tried.
Take a "risk".

[Anonymous No.]

Ask the weeboo fairy and she'll grant you the powers of language

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>>10271573
can only assume three things about you.
- You're doing this because you're socially retarded and believe this is how you communicate with people/help people and mean no harm

- you do this on purpose because you're a passive aggressive fuck and every time you get frustrated with your own problems, whatever they may be you come here and go all eloquent on me just to rile me up and watch me rage to feel better about yourself or feel smart and important like.

- You do this because you're some kind of an obsessive fuck who is bothered by how some guy halfway across the world lives and what bothers you even more is that this guy, disabled, fat, stupid and all that is generally happy with his life without being super ambitious about it all.

If it's the 1st one, you're wasting your time, if it's the other two, get more therapy, you fucking need it

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>>10271566
>>10271573
Your responding to copypasta.

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>>10271538

IMO 20k words in a year is really not feasible, perhaps my memory just sucks but the most I can retain in a day is probably something like 50-60 words through grinding with Anki, and that takes a really long time to solidify in the mind, since I have to repeat the words a lot of times and go over them again throughout the day/next days. I'm talking about being able to recall several meanings/recall how to write it, based on seeing both the English meaning(s) and the word itself, it might be easier if you simplify that. Obviously 50-60 words/day does add up to over 20k but I don't think there really is enough time in a year for that + listening to a lot of Japanese, reading a lot of native Japanese, learning kanji, grammar, etc.

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>>10271580
I'm probably smarter than you. In 7th grade, I took an SAT test without preparing for it at all, it was spur-of-the-moment, I knew about it about an hour ahead of time and didn't do any research or anything. I scored higher on it than the average person using it to apply for college in my area.

An IQ test has shown me to be in the 99.9th percentile for IQ. This is the highest result the test I was given reaches; anything further and they'd consider it to be within the margin of error for that test.

My mother's boyfriend of 8 years is an aerospace engineer who graduated Virginia Tech. At the age of 15, I understand physics better than him, and I owe very little of it to him, as he would rarely give me a decent explanation of anything, just tell me that my ideas were wrong and become aggravated with me for not quite understanding thermodynamics. He's not particularly successful as an engineer, but I've met lots of other engineers who aren't as good as me at physics, so I'm guessing that's not just a result of him being bad at it.

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>>10271592
Here's a sad fact: I'm going to a better university than you ever could hope to go to, I'm making more money now in a crappy winter internship than you will make salaried, and the probability is extremely high that my IQ is significantly higher than yours.

[Anonymous No.]

too bad OP, perhaps you should have picked Elvish as a Major Skill

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>>10271587
well think of it, how many of those 20k words do you use daily?

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>>10271580
Stop raging, No one gives a fuck.
Not even the fuck fairy

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>>10271594
Really? Because I'm also pretty good at engineering. I don't have a degree, and other than physics I don't have a better understanding of any aspect of engineering than any actual engineer, but I have lots of ingenuity for inventing new things. For example, I independently invented regenerative brakes before finding out what they were, and I was only seven or eight years old when I started inventing wireless electricity solutions (my first idea being to use a powerful infrared laser to transmit energy; admittedly not the best plan).

I have independently thought of basically every branch of philosophy I've come across. Every question of existentialism which I've seen discussed in SMBC, Penny arcade, xkcd or Reddit or anywhere else, the thoughts haven't been new to me. Philosophy has pretty much gotten trivial for me; I've considered taking a philosophy course just to see how easy it is.

Psychology, I actually understand better than people with degrees. Unlike engineering, there's no aspect of psychology which I don't have a very good understanding of. I can debunk many of even Sigmund Freud's theories.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271587
>I'm talking about being able to recall several meanings/recall how to write it, based on seeing both the English meaning(s) and the word itself

If you're talking about that, it's on a complete different level.

>+ listening to a lot of Japanese, reading a lot of native Japanese, learning kanji, grammar, etc.

True. You'd have to cut down on the vocab in half for the immersion part.

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>>10271597

That doesn't really mean anything because you may use X amount (2-3k), but 1000 of those may be different every single day. Obviously there are more common words that are used all the time, but fluency doesn't mean you're only able to talk about certain things with people.

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>>10271600
This guy has the biggest vagina and likes to show it off to his buds. 2/10 wouldn't fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>replying to pasta
Oh and anyone asks, I'm quoting your mom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271600

Shut up. Just shut up.

No one thinks you're funny. Everyone knows you're nothing but a troll. You sit her trying to rile people up on the Internet all day. You're a loser, you're pathetic. You're not even original. There were far better trolls than you back in the day. Even crappy trolls that still exist now can do better than this.

All you do all day is post the worst, most idiotic stuff on these boards to try to get some attention, even if it's this. I hope you really get some enjoyment out of what you do because it would be sad and pathetic if you went through all this and were still just a miserable little troll staring at the computer screen all day, trying to act tough on the Internet. You are the definition of an asshat. We have a rule for that, unfortunately it goes unenforced most of the time. You're the perfect example of someone who doesn't contribute anything to this community. You should be banned, however I know that won't happen.

You pathetic miserable person.

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>>10271611
I'm actually a good enough writer that I'm writing a book and so far everybody who's read any of it has said it was really good and plausible to expect to have published. And that's not just, like, me and family members, that counts strangers on the Internet. I've heard zero negative appraisal of it so far; people have critiqued it, but not insulted it.

I don't know if that will suffice as evidence that I'm intelligent. I'm done with it, though, because I'd rather defend my maturity, since it's what you've spent the most time attacking. The following are some examples of my morals and ethical code:

I believe firmly that everybody deserves a future. If we were to capture Hitler at the end of WWII, I would be against executing him. In fact, if we had any way of rehabilitating him and knowing that he wasn't just faking it, I'd even support the concept of letting him go free. This is essentially because I think that whoever you are in the present is a separate entity from who you were in the past and who you are in the future, and while your present self should take responsibility for your past self's actions, it shouldn't be punished for them simply for the sake of punishment, especially if the present self regrets the actions of the past self and feels genuine guilt about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271607
Be that as it may, it seems 20k words is a bit excessive

[Anonymous No.]

It's impossible, unless you actually go live in Japan.
But of course, if you just want to read VN or doujin you don't need to be fluent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271620
see
>>10271509

[Anonymous No.]

S-stop fighting!
Oh, I don't know what to do with you two!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271617
Your copy pasta sucks, Stop shitposting you little niggers >>10271611

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271617
i will punch the everliving shit out of your young face. i will tell you how pretty you are as your mascara runs from your hysterical crying. your sobbing will make me hard. i will unzip my dockers and plunge my quivering fuckrod into your mouth. you will choke up your lunchables (tm) as i plunge your throat like a backed up toilet. after i have jizzed on your unremarkable face, you will leave the smeared makeup and semen on there through dinner with your family. i will be there, throwing plates of asparagus at your mother. she is not a good cook. i will tell her this. your father will remain seated, for he is weak, and fears me. i will fuck him too, but later. later, my dear.

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>>10271555
It's pretty easy if you speak Spanish or any other pure Latin language the pronunciation is exactly the same

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>>10271628
Just reported this shitty fucking reply, which is kind of funny, since i am a janitor. that's right ass hole. i don't need to report shit, but i thought i would in this case just so you know how bad you fucked up. As a janitor, a user of elevated privilege, i actually have a special report interface that patches me directly to moot. so he will be here soon to ban your ass. that's right, moot and i are good friends so he regularly bans the fuckheads that i run across on 4chan. he also gave me access to the mysql database on the server so i can see every post you've ever made - and man, you posted a lot of fucking shit. i actually am going to report your IP to the feds, no joke, there is some seriously illegal shit in these log files which are currently up on my screen. You picked the wrong board to shitpost on mother fucker. this is the end of you.

[Anonymous No.]

OP, you don't need to be fluent in a year, if in that year afterwards you'll be going to Japan.

Just do what other people said, ie. learn hiragana/katakana/kanji/grammar & as many vocab as you can. Try and practice speaking too. You'll be in a good position to become near-fluent while you're in Japan, that is unless you're a huge nerd who never tries to converse with people.

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>>10271622
It's really impossible, give up.

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>>10271640
Personally being a psychology major, i find that this guy is lacking some serious fundamentals in the sense that he talks a bit too much about irrevelent things. I believe this guy is looking for a good lay, question is what are you looking for? Just remember you always put youself and what you want first, your companion should always be an accessory to an already fulfilling sense of self, not the factor which brings you that value

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>>10271640
>i will punch the everliving shit out of your young face. i will tell you how pretty you are as your mascara runs from your hysterical crying. your sobbing will make me hard. i will unzip my dockers and plunge my quivering fuckrod into your mouth. you will choke up your lunchables (tm) as i plunge your throat like a backed up toilet. after i have jizzed on your unremarkable face, you will leave the smeared makeup and semen on there through dinner with your family. i will be there, throwing plates of asparagus at your mother. she is not a good cook. i will tell her this. your father will remain seated, for he is weak, and fears me. i will fuck him too, but later. later, my dear.

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>>10271638

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>>10271642
seems like the best option. After all, if a foreigner who couldn't speak the language tried to befriend me, I wouldn't really use overly complicated words just to fuck with him.

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>>10271638

Pronunciation is pretty irrelevant. It's just that Japanese speakers on avg. use 7.84 syllables per second, not to mention there is a lot of omission of parts of speech. It makes it quite difficult to parse whilst also trying to understand exactly what is being said. It does require a lot of practice for your brain to get used to.

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>>10271669
>It's just that Japanese speakers on avg. use 7.84 syllables per second

Wrong, the oneechan character always speak slowly as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10271681

Well I don't watch anime, I'm just talking about regular people mate.

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>>10271688
I'm talking about eroge

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>>10271696

Not particularly familiar with that either I must say.

[Anonymous No.]

You're deluding yourself if you think you can master Japanese in a year. It doesn't matter how motivated you are at the moment, you can't do it without living in Japan and even then it wouldn't make you fluent after just one year.