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Discuss everything Type-Moon, expectations for CCC, Apocrypha, Girl's work, old works and new.
Try to not let powerlevels, character or game rivalries go beyond friendly joking.

>> No.10252017

ORT > Crimson Moon > Primate Murder > Zelretch > Gilgamesh > Arcueid ≥ Black Sakura > Berserker = Black Saber ≥ Saber > Lancer > Rider = Archer > Caster ≥ Aoko = Nrvnqsr = Kouma = Barthomeloi ≥ Kojirou > Ciel ≥ Great Teacher Hassan (GTH) ≥ "Ryougi Shiki" > V Sion = AC Satsuki = R.Shiki = Bazett ≥ Akiha = Fujino = Araya ≥ Touko = Alba ≥ 18th Roa > > SHIKI = Kiri = Reinforced Kuzuki ≥ Sion = UBW Shirou > ha Avenger > Nanaya = Rin = Kotomine = Zouken = Leysritt > Satsuki ≥ Rio = Avalon Shirou > ha Sakura > Salaryman Dead = Ilya = Corpse ≥ Azaka ≥ Misayo > Kirie = Zombie ≥ Dragon Tooth Warrior ≥ Fuji-nee > Shinji > Fake Shiki

I stopped caring about Type-Moon early 2012.

>> No.10252022

>>10252017
That's cool, this isn't the thread for you then

>> No.10252025

>>10252022
No shit, Sherlock.

>> No.10252026

When are they going to release the Mahō sequel?

>> No.10252073
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>expectations for CCC

My only expectation for it is that it doesn't wind up being as shallow as Extra. You had almost two years Nasu and, frankly speaking,its the only genuinely interesting looking thing on the horizon from TM. It had better be good.

Especially after all those fucking delays. oh my god those delays.

>> No.10252083

Tell me, does Type-Moon still care about Tsukihime? All I see everywhere is fate/this and fate/that.

>> No.10252085

>I stopped caring about Type-Moon early 2012.
Me too. It gets pretty old when it's nothing but spinoff games that have the exact same characters each time. How about something new for once? Damn it.

>> No.10252086

I'm playing Tsukihime at the moment
There's something that really annoys me about it but I don't know what it is

>> No.10252097

>>10252086
the fanbase?
the nautical references?

>> No.10252129

>>10252086
Might be the soundtrack

>> No.10252136

>>10252085
You mean like Mahoyo?

>> No.10252148

>>10252097
>>10252129
think it's the references, soundtrack and the general storytelling.
It's all just rubbing me the wrong way

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>>10252073
My only expectation is Gilgamesh. Every other servant and their special costumes can go fuck themselves. Other masters too.

Gilgamesh is all I need and want.

>> No.10252163

>>10252161
It has been said playing Gilgamesh shouldn't be your first playthrough because he already knows everything and might spoil some things though. Also his difficulty is even easier than Nero

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>>10252163
I don't give a fuck. He's Gilgamesh.

I've played extra and I know it's basically heavens feel route. Gilgamesh can spoil anything he wants, and him being able to stomp everything without trying is exactly what I expect of him.

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>>10252161
Ha! Get a load of this one!

>> No.10252598

>>10252136

For him, Mahoyo probably counts as something with the exact same characters because Mahoyo has Aoko and Touko as main characters and on top of that its split up into parts.

>>10252083

If they didn't there wouldn't be that remake. Fate/Shit is literally just a huge idea factory waiting to be exploited so it can't be helped that its everywhere. It might see its end soon enough though because Nasu/TM seem completely unable to believe that one cannot write a Fate story without having either:

1. Some sort of Servant who's from Arthurian legend
And
2. A Arturia lookalike

Of course as well, they're running out of those factors.

>> No.10252615

Girls Work fucking where.

>> No.10252619

You now realize that if it weren't for the original Extra being so totally shitty that Nasu tried to salvage it with a rewrite and a sequel we'd probably be two years ahead with TM release schedule.

>> No.10252663
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I'm working on a proper Nasuverse timeline because picture related is WRONG. Also, a person asked in a thread of mine how old Ciel was supposed to be in Tsukihime, the answer is 24.

>> No.10252762

I'm playing through Kagetsu Tohya right now, and I'm stuck.

I followed the walkthrough linked below, but some of the options aren't open to me. I didn't follow the walkthrough religiously since that's a lame-ass cop-out, but got stuck around the school festival.

I'm trying to get the DRINKING MOON; DRINKING MOON finale, but so far I'm nto able to get certain scenes (the one in the nanaya forest, most annoyingly).

What should I do?

http://kiserai.net/kt.html

>> No.10252799

>2012
>Gay Moon

>> No.10252808

>>10252619
>That feel when i'm completely satisfied with how it turned out

In my book, a specially made Grail War where you play as some Silent MC that you project into with multiple ends and Nasu having free reign to do what he wants along with Turnbased mechanics >>> Another VN with high production values and Nasu having free reign to do what he wants and probably casting some fag we already know like the back of our own hand as the MC.

>> No.10252821

I'm definitely excited to see a non-Fate TM anime being released soon. It'd be pretty cool if they adapted some of his more lesser known stuff like DDD or Notes to animation as well, but I doubt that's ever going to happen.

>> No.10252859

>>10252821
What release is this? I thought there was just another Carnival Phantasm coming down the line.

I would love to see an OVA of Coral of the moon, myself, but YMMV

>> No.10252864

>>10252859
Girl's Work.

>> No.10252964

>>10252663
>Kara no Kyoukai leads right into Extra
>No attatchment to FSN or FZ

Hahaha oh wow
That is wrong

>> No.10252983

>>10252859
>I would love to see an OVA of Coral of the moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z_VmQdgo_w

>>10252864
I'm really curious about it

>>10252821
>It'd be pretty cool if they adapted some of his more lesser known stuff like DDD or Notes to animation as well, but I doubt that's ever going to happen.
Maybe once the stop milking fate.

>> No.10253007

>>10252762
Anyone?

>> No.10253135
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Is anyone here buying this?

>> No.10253154

>>10253135
lol, I was clicking it to enlarge.

>> No.10253159

and I can't get enough of the Carnival Phantasm opening theme.

>> No.10253177

>>10253159
Carnival Phantasm as a whole was just a great time.

>> No.10253190

Even if I don't give anymore much fucks to typemoon, I had great times with you stupid fuckers in the past. it was all incredibly fun.
merry christmas, sperglords.

>> No.10253210

>>10253190
Th-thanks

>> No.10253226

a.) By the grace of gods and fate, I am Nerevar reborn.
b.) I'm a loyal servant of the Emperor.
c.) I am a self-willed hero, and I make my own fate.
d.) I know no more than you do.

>> No.10253231

>>10253226

e.) what in the actual fuck are you talking about?

>> No.10254168

>>10253226
e.) I wish to join in you pushing the Imperial dogs from Morrowind

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>>10254168

>Morrowind

You mean Skyrim pleb

>> No.10254566

>>10252663
what the fuck is tsukihime 2?

Do they mean the tsukihime REMAKE?

>> No.10254708

>>10254566
No they mean Tsukihime 2

>> No.10254710

>>10254708
I thought kagetsu tohya WAS tsukihime 2? What the fuck is tsukihime 2?

>> No.10254760

>>10254710
Tsukihime 2 was hinted to heavily in Kagetsu Tohya it even mentioned the supposed title of the sequel in the vn, and I believe it has be mentioned else where outside of Kagetsu Tohya by Nasu. However Tsukhime 2 has not been made and as far as we know, Nasu is not currently working on it. But it's pretty much confirmed already. We already know what the story is supposed to be about and ect.

>> No.10254775

It'd be so nice to see Tsukihime 2 burst onto the scene and finally show some of those crazy ass Character Material guys in action.

>> No.10254776

>>10254760
>I believe it has be mentioned else where outside of Kagetsu Tohya by Nasu
Yeah he did in an interview iirc.
Also apparently they are talking about it in the Carnival Phantasm commentary tracks, but I can't confirm it.

>> No.10254831

>>10254776
>>10254760
>>10254710
IIRC, Tsukiime 2 is probably not going to happen for a LONG time. However, much of the world-building is mentioned in the artbooks and side-materials, such as Kagetsu Tohya.

the plot is supposedly centering around The Alesbury Ritual, a Dead Apostle Ancestor ploy to revive Crimson Moon. it involves The Dark Six, an enigmatic vampire or series of vampires who are severely OP and who intend to fuck shit up.

>>10254775
Vey much so. Guys like Merem Solomon and Sumire and Mister Dawn and all those cool-sounding chaacters from the artbooks and side material finally getting a chance to shine. Nasu has a knack for world-building and using odd but interesting characters to enhance said world-building. Seeing some canonical shit on those guys (instead of the fanwank on the Type-Moon wiki) would be a godsend.

>> No.10254827

>>10254760
He's going to remake the original before even making the sequel? Thats retarded. So I guess tsukihime 2 will come to our computers in 2035.

>> No.10254839

>>10254831
Didn't Crimson Moon show up in Melty Blood in some form or another though? Or did that not count or something?

>> No.10254856

>>10252598
>Mahoyo probably counts as something with the exact same characters

But Aoko and Touko are original characters that come from Mahoyo.

>> No.10254991

>>10254839
You mean Archetype:Earth?

>> No.10255003

>>10254856
Aoko was originally introduce in Tsukihime and Touko was first introduced in Kara no Kyoukai.

>> No.10255029

>>10255003
but mahoyo predates them both, it just wasn't produced and released until recently

>> No.10255064

>>10255029
interesting, kinda makes me wonder if he has also put such work into Tsukihime 2.

>> No.10255862

【発売日延期のお知らせ】
こちらの商品は、メーカーより発売日の延期が発表されました。
・旧発売日:2013年2月21日
・新発売日:2013年3月28日

CCC got delayed one month

>> No.10256010

>>10252821
>>10252864
Unless they changed something since it was announced (three years ago now?), I believe Girl's Work is written by the ex-Liar-Soft guy who wrote Forest.

>> No.10256258

>>10255862

I positively refuse to believe this till I see an actual site update and/or a Famitsu/4gamer article about it.

Fucking seriously this thing has had more delays than route 51

>> No.10256271

>>10256258
dunno got it from here
http://www.7netshopping.jp/game/detail/-/accd/2104888737

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>>10256271

I forgot to mention that even if source is provided, i'll still block off my ears and shut my eyes while screaming:

"LA LA LA LA HOW DARE YOU STAB ME IN THE DICK LIKE THIS AFTER SEVENTY FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OF WAITING NASU. WE HAD A DATE YOU ASSHOLE. A DATE."

M-m-m-maybe its just for that particular store thats getting the delay. S-s-sucks to be the customers of that place...

>> No.10256907

>>10254179
Oh shit, when was the Red Sabreur dress released?

>> No.10258386

>>10256907

When Neverar was reborn

>> No.10259697

Why hasn't Nasu gotten married yet /jp/?

>> No.10259803

>>10252163
>It has been said playing Gilgamesh shouldn't be your first playthrough
Could you quote this? All I remember was that he was easymode due to being overpowered, and that he would frequently spoil things in a manner that wouldn't make sense to a player that hasn't beaten the game yet.

Frankly, I believe his route loses its entire appeal if you don't play it first. I mean, if you actually have an idea of what he is talking about when he spoils you, then there wouldn't be much left to it.

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>>10255862
I can't say I'm surprised at this point

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>10252009

CCC I don't really have any interest in and I skipped Fate Extra as well.

Fate Zero was really well done and was a recent high point in their career.

What I really want to see is a Tsukihime remake with extra stuff, Tsukihime 2, and then a new Melty Blood with the new Tsukihime 'verse characters.

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So uh, does anyone in the EU wanna play Melty?
Average tier.

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>Fate/Extra CCC was supposed to come out in spring 2012 and it looked like Marvelous AQL finally settled on February 21, 2013 as the game’s release date.

>7-Eleven (yeah, the convenience store) says the PSP game has been pushed back to March 28, 2013. The Fate/Extra CCC info has been removed, but Japanese blogs captured the page before it was pulled.

>Fate/Extra CCC was first announced in 2011. If accurate, this will be the fourth delay for the game. After Fate/Extra CCC missed the spring release window, the game was rescheduled for winter 2012 and then February 21, 2013.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/12/24/rumor-fateextra-ccc-delayed-yet-again/

Are you as excited as I am guys?

>> No.10261139

>>10260440
>Fate Zero was really well done

Fate Zero a shit. Especially the anime where they tore out many a things of what made the original at least somewhat worth reading. The only thing they got done properly was the Kiritsugu flashback part.

>> No.10261144

>>10259697
still looking for that one deep sea waifu.

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>>10260674

Over a delay? fukno

>To Fatefags
>CCC Is Delayed
>Love, Nasu

>>10261144

If its a deepsea waifu he wants I recommend the guy Kobayashi Yuu

She's shown us many a thing from that deep damp dark place.

>> No.10262681

>>10262676

Shove a Merry Christmas somewhere in there as well. Because clearly this is out Christmas gift from Nasu, clearly

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10262729

Needs more Tsukihime 2.

>> No.10262879

>>10262729
>Tsukihime 2

oh boy

more shit storms over whether or not Shiki can kill servants. He's supposed to off like what,three Dead Apostles Ancestors there?

>> No.10263049

>>10262879
Servants are stronger that DA Ancestors

>> No.10263085

>>10263049

Depends upon the Ancestor and Servant.

>> No.10263451

>>10263049
No, not really. Once you get in the Top 10, their abilities become too hax and it depends on what abilities have where. Basically, a situational battle. Even then, DAA have ORT and PM. The DAA that Shiki killed were in the lower tier though, not top 10s.

>> No.10263491

>>10263451
Are ORT and PM just consider DA because there's like nothing else to categorize them as?

>> No.10263509

>>10263491

They're Dead Apostle Ancestors, but not Dead Apostles.

>> No.10263876

>>10263491

Not sure about PM but pretty much yeah for ORT. She has some kind of vague vampiristic qualities and she killed an Apostle so everybody just went 'Fuck it, she can count as one'.

>> No.10267128

Fate/Saber when?

>> No.10269839

Type Moon needs milfs and big sister type characters or it will never be good

>> No.10269890

>>10269839
>milfs
Ridah/Castah
>big sister
taigah/sakurah/curry

>> No.10269978

>>10269839
It does though, they're just relegated to minor roles.

>> No.10270342

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201212/27026751.html

Son of a bitch the delay has been confirmed.

>>10269839

I'm sure there's quite a few from DDDbut thing is hardly anybody has bothered to read that

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-The reason for the delays is that the prototype more or less felt like a rehash of Extra. The company gave them an extension, so they decided to redo the environments and stuff from scratch, while Nasu expanded the scenario. He was confident that he could do it in two months, but was unable to make it, leading to another extension.

- Red Saber has sameface because they wanted to trick people into thinking that she was Arturia, and then surprise them when they played the game.

- The idea for CCC was hatched right after Extra went on sale, but was put on hold until they saw that people wanted a sequel

- Secret Gardens are replacing the Matrices, and as one progresses the flower petals on the drawings will go away until the girl (and Nasu just confirmed that all Secret Gardens/bosses will be female) is nekkid.

- According to Nasu, CCC is the seinen to FSN's shonen.

- There are no time limits like the previous game, since the Grail war system is gone. Instead the player can advance at his/her own pace.

- Gil was utterly broken when Nasu test-played the game (to the point that Gil was described as "Hax" mode on the Servant selection screen). He actually doesn't know if they're going to adjust the power balance or just stick with it. Gil belongs to no class because Nasu, after pondering what class to put him in, decided that "there's no need to constrain [Gil] like that anymore."

- BB "is not as bad a person as she seems." He wanted to take her in a different direction from yandere Dark Sakura; instead, BB is the "impish kohai."

- Jinako was actually a request from the staff; they wanted a "NEET girl." They already had the illustration done, so he took it from there.

- Otherwise, he has had far more free rein with CCC than Extra and was pretty much able to write whatever he pleased.

- Nasu says that this is more or less the finale for Fate, at least from him.

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>>10271360
>- Gil was utterly broken when Nasu test-played the game (to the point that Gil was described as "Hax" mode on the Servant selection screen). He actually doesn't know if they're going to adjust the power balance or just stick with it. Gil belongs to no class because Nasu, after pondering what class to put him in, decided that "there's no need to constrain [Gil] like that anymore."
I love you so much Nasu. Please don't tone down Gilgamesh.

>> No.10273129

>>10272156

He won't because its his last Fate work and he's going to shit all over the balance and turn it into a neverendingfest of wankery and who the actual strongest servant is

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>>10273129
Huh? But we already know who the strongest servant is.

>> No.10273247

>>10271360

Sounds good. Shame it'll never be localized.

>> No.10273248

>>10273211
Only because everyone's knees go weak seeing him.

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>>10273247
Aksys is releasing some Hakuouki beat em up of all things in February. I'm sure they'll have no problem betting on CCC.

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>>10273211

Yeah we do know who the strongest servant is

>> No.10273291

>>10271360
>CCC
>seinen

They sure fooled me with all the giant naked tits everywhere.

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>>10273291

Coulda fooled me too. Most Seinen i've read have their heroines wearings omething respectable...THEN once battle breaks out their outfits get more lewd through battle damage.

Not like this shit

>> No.10275107 [DELETED] 

>>10273306
It's cute

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>>10275107

Is that so? Is this cute?

>> No.10275251

>>10275233
It would be if it wasn't serious.

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>>10275233

Or how about this?

>> No.10275257

>>10275251

>Wasn't serious

You lost me

>> No.10275275 [DELETED] 

>>10275233
Nice tits 10/10

>>10275255
Very cute

>> No.10275294

>>10275233
Very kawaii
Would fug and get a hand job from

>> No.10275311

>>10275275
>>10275294

As expected /jp/ is vastly different from those plebs on /a/ who can't appreciate such brilliant character design

>> No.10275323

>>10275233

I really like this.

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Is this cute?

>> No.10277626 [DELETED] 

>>10277567
Kirito is very cute, yes

>> No.10277665

>>10277626

That isn't Kirito

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>> No.10280956

>>10278465

Daily reminder that we probably won't see Adult Miyako in Tsukihime 2

>> No.10281057

>>10280956
friendly reminder that we'll probably never see Tsukihime 2

>> No.10281651

>>10281057

>probably never see

Yeah nah.

After Nasu pretty much tied the Extraverse into Tsukihime 2, it never happening is just a pipedream.

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>>10271360
> - Red Saber has sameface because they wanted to trick people into thinking that she was Arturia, and then surprise them when they played the game.

Yeah, too bad the internet doesn't really work like that.

>> No.10283951 [DELETED] 

>>10283924
People typically don't unpack game files and meticulously search through them before playing.

>> No.10283957

>>10283924

Why do I get the feeling you only did that for the assbackwards US release where they clearly put Archers skills through Google Translate and didn't try harder after doing that with them?

>> No.10283968

>>10283951

It happens to all anticipated games nowadays. I kind of think it takes the fun out of things but whatever.

>> No.10283974

>>10283957
fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/5728315

I dunno, lol

>> No.10284048

>>10283974

>That thread and i'm posting pictures
>I'm having trouble with the 1st stage where Rider is

I was so catastrophically shit back then, jesus christ. When CCC rolls around you guys will get to see my full power.

>> No.10284071

>>10280956
Thankfully.

>> No.10284071,1 [INTERNAL] 

c

>> No.10287840

>>10252009
Moon. ok i typed moon what's now?

>> No.10288454

>>10287840

You kill yourself

>> No.10288506

Will we ever stop getting Fate spinoffs?

>> No.10288572

>>10288506
When they run out of decently famous heroic spirits, sure.

>> No.10289433

>>10288506
Soon

Nip investors are generally going to always want a Saber clone in whatever Fate work that comes along,some writer will eventually get absolutely tired of that trite thinking and be deadset on ruining the entire thing,sending the Fate series crashing and burning straight into the ground.

Soon

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What transfers over from your previous savegames? Something about your Servant showing you more affection? Hope that means there'll be special scenes. Something to reward you for grinding and saving that command seal. Extra starting item or gear would be OK too. Would definitely help the Tamamofags that play from lvl. 1 blind again. Bitch is gonna get her shit smacked again.

>> No.10291499

>>10291432

Eh. Chances are it'll be something crappy. Some lame bonus item, a handful of XP to get you started, scenes that can otherwise be unlocked on a second playthrough.

>> No.10294104
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>>10291432
>Bitch is gonna get her shit smacked again.

urafannygai

Once Sakura corrupt NTR's T-memo from her Master,the Moon Cell will be so supple and wet it will wish it was named the Sun Cell.

>> No.10294159

>>10291432
I hope CCC actually does something with the command spells. They were kind of just tacked on in the first.

>> No.10294243

>>10294159

In CCC you can tell Gilgamesh to suck your dick if you use your command spells in an event.

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