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10202700 No.10202700 [Reply] [Original]

Modern touhou games are casual

ZUN had the perfect formula in HRTP

It was a bullet hell and an arkanoid game combined for true hardcore test of human ability

If you were too slow it told you to HURRY UP and began to shot too many bullets at you

plus you had to bounce the ball and get all the cards

in modern tohou all you do is sit there and push fire while doging bullets

it is too easy to dodge bullet without worrying about the arkanoid flavor

what happened to you ZUN?

>> No.10202733

silence = "you're correct"

>> No.10202740

>>10202733
Wrong, nerd.
No posts = "please respond"

>> No.10202749

>>10202733
silence = "you're a fucking tryhard nerdboy nobody gives a shit so fuck off before i bend you in two homo"

>> No.10202751

>>10202740
>>10202749

no good argument

/jp/ too casual

>> No.10202753

>>10202751
You're not /jp/ ?
Please go back to where you come from

>> No.10202759

>>10202753

another bad argument

>> No.10202765

>>10202751
>>10202759
Please don't try too hard being passive aggressive.

>> No.10202769
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>>10202759

Your face is a bad argument

>> No.10202770

what is the point of the fucking shoot button when there's no reason to stop shooting? except in like UFO occasionally.

STGs are shit

>> No.10202771

>>10202765
>>10202769

then show me a better test of ability

you can't

>> No.10202773

>>10202771

new touhou are so casual every char has homing attacks

>> No.10202775

Actually, Mystic Square was the perfect pc98 Touhou game.
Best Music

Hard, even on Normal

Doesn't just hand you lives every 2 seconds

Mima is playable

>> No.10202777 [DELETED] 

>>10202770
`milking'

>> No.10202781

>>10202770
Do you even score ?

>> No.10202783

>>10202770
But there are points where it's advantageous to stop shooting, certain enemies shoot a ton of bullets out when they die. Also, score runs require that you stop shooting at certain points to just graze.

>> No.10202786

>>10202771
What? Your post isn't relevant to your replies.

>> No.10202788

/jp/ is too easy to be trolled

>> No.10202795

>>10202788
>anyone posting in this thread cares about subject

>> No.10202797

Oh great, we have a newfag here. lel I trolled u

>> No.10202799

>>10202788

no just too casual

>> No.10202802

>>10202795
i expected you guys wouldn't reply at all and let it sink

>> No.10202805

>>10202802

But there is only you and me in this thread, anon

>> No.10202806

>>10202795
Don't post.

>> No.10202810

>>10202806

so everyone agrees HRTP is the best and all new touhou is casual

ok

modern loser

>> No.10202821

>>10202810
*shakes hands with u*

>> No.10202845

I can't get HRtP to work on Anex86. I feel kind of stupid.

>> No.10202902

HRtP was pretty fun, aside from the absurd difficulty during some boss stages. ZUN should consider making another game like it, but with some tweaks to the original formula. I think it was a great idea.

>> No.10203066

>>10202700
My main problem with PC-98 Touhou games is that my eyes start to hurt after 15 minutes of playing. Is it a part of the test of human ability?

>> No.10203716

I've been telling people this for years

ZUN really needs to revamp the old PC-98 games or make the WIN games more like them

>> No.10203765

>>10202770
The worst thing is games like Gradius 3. You have two buttons to shoot, one for your primary weapon and another for your missiles. Each press of the button shoots at 1 bullet or missile depending upon which one you press. So to shoot continually (which will want to do in most parts) you have to press two buttons quickly over and over.

>> No.10203792

>>10202845
>Anex86.
Not using T98-Next

>> No.10203795

>>10202775
This, this so much.

Mystic Square is my favourite Touhou game.

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>>10202775
It even has Alice.

>> No.10203853

>>10202802
/jp/ Rule! Always reply to a thread! Even if it's a shitpost!

>> No.10203855
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10203855

PC-98 games are dull, and honestly the only people screaming that they are the best (on /jp/, at least) are just secondaries trying really hard to be primaries. OP probably doesn't even score, and he thinks he has the right to call others casuals.

>> No.10203879

>>10203855
>PC-98 games are dull

I disagree at least in LLS and MS case, those were certainly better than TD.

>> No.10203885

>>10203853
Yeah, we can't talk about Touhou Project in a thread if the OP isn't good.

>> No.10203912

>>10202733
your post = "I liked this obscure and shitty game before it was cool"

>> No.10203927

>>10203855
Absolutely not. Any Windows-era Touhou game, TD included, is much more vivid than the PC-98 games. Even though TD has the annoying auto-trance when dying and a broken scoring system, it still has more variety in everything compared to LLS or MS. I would say TD is far from being dull.

>> No.10203986

>>10203927

You aren't very good at looking at things beneath the surface.

>> No.10204010

>>10203927
The only problem with LLS and MS is the graphics, when you often can't even see the projectiles.

>> No.10204011
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10204011

>2012
>not laying in bed all night trying to figure out how to cope with reality because Shinki will never give you the warmth and care that your own mother didn't
ISHYDDT

Mystic Square is the best Touhou.

>> No.10204017

>>10204010
Are you sure it's not just your emulator settings?
I can see them just fine unless you're talking about the bullets overlapping.

>> No.10204040

>>10204017
Dunno, it looks like there aren't enough colors and some bullets blend with the background.

>> No.10204052

>>10204040
I've never had a problem with that, even on stage 4 of MS.

>> No.10204106

>>10202700
>in modern tohou all you do is sit there and push fire while doging bullets
Games are shit, all you do is press buttons. Easy as fuck, even a monkey can press buttons.

>>10202773
Even Marisa?

>> No.10204119

>>10202788
I'm just being kid to OP so he doesn't feel fad about how harsh the world is.

>> No.10204138

>>10204011

pleasee respond to this, someone

>> No.10204144
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>>10204138
I would but your poor use of quotes and le epic maymays from other boards repels me.

>> No.10204165

>>10204144

You are now manually aware of the fact that the original /jp/anon, you know, the ones that like to talk about how they've been here since the beginning, were originally from other boards on 4chan.

Yeah.

>> No.10204182

>>10204165
What if past and present didn't <s>I got you to move your mouse there xDDDD</s> ?

>> No.10204196

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41394
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41427

>> No.10204194

>>10204182
Epic

>> No.10204209

>>10203986
Oh really? Enlighten me, then, wise one. You make it sound like any of the PC-98 games have something deeper and more than any of the Windows games, so I'd like to hear what it is.

>> No.10204251

>>10204196
lol, good to see you here ^_~

>> No.10204328

>>10202700
Ok, guys, keep with me for a while here. What if we took HRtP and remade it in something that isn't paleoinformatics.

>> No.10204373

>>10202783
But everyone knows playing for score is for retards who hate themselves.

>> No.10208816
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10208816

Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream is the coolest Touhou game

>> No.10209075

HRtP has my second favourite Touhou theme on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP4TTl8mKCM (and an excellent Instrumental Power Metal cover of it by Magnum Opus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn5vP0cNI3s).).

My favourite Touhou theme song is Sleeping Terror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkQaFuiA-2A

The PC-98 games had some good music on them.

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>>10209075
>The PC-98 games had some good music on them.
Yeah, there were a lot of really good themes. It's a shame that Ten Desires has such bland and forgettable soundtrack.

Sleeping Terror and Romantic Children are probably my favorite among all Touhou themes, not only PC-98 ones.

>> No.10211147

>>10204328
Give me a set of sprites of a cute loli running back and forth hitting a ball volleyball style and I'll make as many ball breaking blocks games as you want.

>> No.10211158

>>10202770
>He doesn't enable shotslow

>> No.10211160

>>10211158

Why would you ever do this.

>> No.10211162

>>10211160
Because there's no point in having a seperate focus button if you're going to spend most of your time focused.

>> No.10211166

>>10211162

But engage in the scenario I want to fire and move un-focused at the same time.

>> No.10211172

>>10211166
That's what tapping is for.

>> No.10211222

>>10211133
>Ten Desires has such bland and forgettable soundtrack.

Not really. I think you've just been spoiled too much by SA and UFO.

>> No.10211251

You guys are so serious about this that it makes me think playing games isn't about having fun anymore.

>> No.10211285

touhous 1-6 were all easy as fuck
I barely died once in all of touhou 1
and in the others I only died in the highest difficulties a few times
you only think its more difficult cause you're brain-damaged

and if you're playing for score (which any hardcore player would be doing) it's much more difficult as you need to hit everything and weave across the screen to grab points

>> No.10211286

>>10211251
I dunno about you guys, but I'm the kind of guy who plays Touhou sometimes and am all like, "I am enjoying myself. I am enjoying the process of playing this interactive video entertainment." And I play Cave games at other times and I'm all like, "I am enjoying this video game. It has good fun-ness in it."

And other times I'll play Touhou and am all like "FUCK DAMN IT WHY ARE THE BULLETS SO CLOSE TOGETHER, CLIP DEATHS UP THE SNATCH" and other times I'll play Cave and am all like "FUCKING SHIT WHY DO THOSE CENTIPEDES HAVE SUCH UNPREDICTABLE AMOUNTS OF HEALTH" or "GOD CUNT IT I WAS ONE PIXEL OFF FROM WHERE I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE GOES 99% OF MY SCORE"

No matter what shmup I'm playing, I'll be enjoying it, it'll love being played by me, but then it'll get pissed off and start beating me like an abusive husband. And like an abused wife, I just keep coming back because I love it too much.

[/not really contributing anything]

>> No.10211288

>>10211286
—shmupforums user, 2012

>> No.10216919

HRtP had terrible graphics and it was stolen from another game. No originality

>> No.10220249

>>10216919
Like how Evangelion ripped off Godzilla?

>> No.10220630

>>10211251
It's only fun playing it for the first few hours on the day it is released, like opening a new gift. After that, it's all just shitty frustration, grinding, and self-loathing due to being inferior to other players despite wasting hundreds to thousands of hours practicing the same six stages.

>> No.10220707

>>10220630
I realized it a long time ago, so now I only play a game while I'm enjoying it.
It's also the reason why I don't play many big Western games. I get bored before I complete most of them.

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