/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Do you ever fap to your waifu?

On the one hand, if you believed your waifu to be sacred, you'd never fap to her and save your lewd desires for throw-away trash sluts and keep her pure, but on the other hand, if you loved your waifu more than anyone else, you'd ONLY fap to her and nobody else.

What's your take, /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

Look at that baka.

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>>10172508
This is a legitimate thread you FUCKING ASSHOLE FUCK OFF BEFORE YOU RUIN ANOTHER FUCKING THREAD

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>>10172511

Hey back the HELL off bro; Cirno is my #1 :3

[Anonymous No.]

I don't have a wayfood.

[Anonymous No.]

If you don't fap to your waifu then all you have is platonic love.

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>>10172508
>>10172518
hey kog i have a question for you: even if cirno is 70+ years of age, is it morally right to have sex with an ice fairy that has the mind of a child?

[Anonymous No.]

Suddenly I'm in a shit thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10172524

Sex is nothing more than another physical activity two creatures enjoy together. Rape happens all the time in the animal kingdom. The root cause of why having sex with people that have underdeveloped minds is because they cannot understand the connection and consequences of it. There is no moral argument to be made against having sex with immortal fairies for two reasons. First, they are immortal, and to deny them the pleasure of sex for all of eternity based on your prejudices of "hurr durr kid minds" is not your call to make. Since they are immortal, they have to learn what sex is at SOME point, and it's better for them to learn slowly through experience to build a connection and methods to maximize their pleasure than to deny them to the point where they build up and have sex with somebody who will treat them badly. Secondly, there are no negative consequences with having sex since there are no babies and any damage/"wear-and-tear" from too much sex with be healed due to the whole immortal thing.

Therefore, having sex with fairies is morally acceptable, and I dare anyone to show me otherwise.

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>>10172569
how do you know fairies are immortal?
how do you know fairies can't have babies?
how do you know fairies can regenerate instantly?

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>>10172569
I couldn't agree more.

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>>10172579
you faggot answer the questions

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>>10172569
>69
>Sex

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>>10172569

wise kog is wise

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>>10172569
Rarely do I find myself agreeing with Kog of all people, but this just makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't fap to the people I love.

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>>10172511
>This is a legitimate thread

If you can't fap to your waifu then you don't love her.
If you disagree the penis monster will eat your dick in your sleep.

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>>10172569
I cried so much TRUTH

[Anonymous No.]

No, never. She wouldn't approve

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>>10172644
what the HELL are you going on about

[Anonymous No.]

>>10172667
wtH is that really you

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>>10172569
Why can't kog be more like this and give us his wisdom instead of being a faggot all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

Counterpoint: no fairy would ever want to have sex with you and rape is bad, so it's not acceptable.

[Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU No.]

I think it is OK to fap to your waifu, but there are a few caveats to be aware of.

I don't think it is respectful to look at gross doujinshi when connecting with your waifu in sexual way. Doujinshi is fine, but it can't be unkind to your waifu.

Keep in mind that my personal belief is that you interact with your waifu in your personal reality, which is entirely subjective to the person.

Fapping to a doujin of your waifu can occur in your personal reality, which is as concrete and interaction as you could possibly have and is as close to sex as you will ever actually get with your waifu.

On this note, degrading your waifu with far out fetishes, particularly those that your waifu does not enjoy (this is important - because ANY fetish is OK as long as the sex is consensual), is kinda wrong and in general isn't the way you would treat someone you love.

Just my thoughts. This is just the way I resolve dilemmas regarding sex with my waifu.

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>>10172569

Wise words, have a danmaku

[Anonymous No.]

Shitposter circlejerk

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>>10172702

I never said rape is acceptable for intelligent creatures. The reason why humans view rape is bad is because they know better. Rape is a violation of free will. Animals cannot comprehend the concept of free will, so they cannot be held accountable for their actions. The reason I brought up rape is because in the animal kingdom, rape is no worse than snuggling or taking care of one's young. There is no morality distinction.

And you're right that no (or hardly any) fairy would have sex with a mortal human due to our many flaws (being mortal, not "perfect" bodies free of aches, age, etc.). However, if immortal fairies exist, then other immortals exist, and if other immortals exist, there must be some way somewhere in the universe to become an immortal fairy (or, at the very least, just immortal).

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>>10172723
hey kog do you find op's pic hot

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>>10172569
1. As long as the mind is in an adolescent, developing state the person or being should be free from things that can cause trauma i.e. sex. Animals start becoming sexually active relative to their lifespan so it would make perfect sense for an immortal being to wait a few millenia if that's how they developed.

2. Immortality does not mean that a hymen would be repaired.

3. You are a delusional pedophile.

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>>10172569
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>>10172739
why so philosophical today kog

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>>10172731

Most straight men should easily say yes, even if they prefer big breasts. It has been proven through scientific study that straight males are wired to prefer women that have an hourglass shape. Also, the way the breasts are not covered fully by the bra and the fact that her bottom part of the swimsuit is just magically falling off both stimulate the sex part in the brain.

And no, I didn't miss the completely subtle part with Cirno sucking the popsicle with "drool" dripping from her mouth.

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>>10172723

I hate you KOG! You ruined MY THREAD!

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>>10172741

1. Who are you to determine what is the right frame of time for an immortal to hold off on having sex? What if all immortals develop differently depending on their environment and surroundings? If they are secluded from the rest of the world (like Flandre, for instance), it makes sense to wait for such a long time since they don't have much experience. However, Cirno is an adventurer, so she has much experience interacting with other creatures and learning things.

2. Would an immortal even have a hymen?

3. >implying implications

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>>10172741

>call kog a delusional pedophile
>pot calling the kettle black

[Anonymous No.]

I don't fap at all. Sexuality is sinful.

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>>10172742

I'm bored.

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>>10172747
u damn right, fuck him!!!!

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>>10172753
1. >Who are you to determine what is the right frame of time for an immortal to hold off on having sex? Please direct this at the first person to make an assumption, meaning you. Who do you think ZUN would agree with if you asked whether or not his fairies needed to get fucked?

2. Would they even have a vagina or sexual urges? Let's follow our own assumptions, ok?

3. It's fine to like what you like, please just don't hurt anyone.

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[Anonymous No.]

kog a shit

[Anonymous No.]

>waifu

[Anonymous No.]

I love Yuuka, I don't fap to her.

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>>10172770

1. Allow me to elaborate further. When I said "go slowly", that didn't mean "hurr durr give it a day or two and then J-J-JAM IT IN". If she's ready in a day or two, that's great. If she's too inexperienced, uncaring, etc., I can wait a month or a year or even further. If it's evident that she'll never be ready and doesn't even understand what a relationship is, I would be glad even to have her as a fun friend to hang out with.

2. You bring up a good point that I have brought up in the past. For all we know, fairies might be asexual. There might even be both versions (male/female and asexual). If Cirno is asexual, again, she'd be a great friend to just hang out with.

3. >more implications of the implying nature

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>>10172770
>>10172789
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU BOTH FAIRIES DON'T EVEN EXIST WHY ARE YOU EVEN ARGUING THIS

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>>10172796
Is this guy serious?

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>>10172569
>>10172753
I see the point you are trying to make, however I have to disagree entierly.

Not that I actually support the oposing thesis; both are wrong.

It is just that your whole thinking is based on proving that the opposing thesis is wrong, and to do that, you have to accept it as existing and valid - that's how logic works, you can't disprove anything without such hypothesises.

Hence your whole reasoning is based on fallacies.
You should have started anew; from the begining. Tabula rasa.

Have a semi-cute semi-lewd gif if you don't want to read.

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>>10172796

It's better to create your own reality than to live in one that others create for you.

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>>10172770
They all have mouth, hands, legs.

There isn't only vaginal sex.
ITT: Please think of the fairies. Stop the fairyphiles menace.

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>>10172796
Yes human, fairies don't exist. Gensokyo is only an illusion.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I was a Hidamari, so much so that I feel like offing myself as that will never be a reality. Thoughts

[Anonymous No.]

>>10172811
I wish you were Yuno.

Then I could fuck you.

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>>10172789
The issue is not the pace that you take, the issue is making any sexual advance on what we are theorizing is a mind styled after a human's and could reasonably expect hasn't fully developed. That could leave a lasting scar. How long would she have to deal with it? The only action that assumes we understand anything is the one you are proposing, which is disgustingly selfish and therefore is ethically questionable. It's not even that complicated.

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>>10172797

It's hard to tell what side you're arguing when you keep posting loli. Please be more clear in your argument as to what you are trying to convey. There is no such thing as "black and white", "red vs blue", etc. People forget that there is a rim on that 2-sided coin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10172818

I'LL SHOW YOU RIMMING

*pulls down your pants*

[Anonymous No.]

I don't fap, so I win.

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>>10172816

Then the argument could be made that sex is not the only activity which could scar a fairy's mind. In a hypothetical scenario, let's say the fairy was mortal before it evolved into an immortal. During this time, ogres were fairy predators. They would use clubs and beat fairies to death. Fast forward to the present, and you're trying to show a fairy how to play baseball. This could bring up a past experience in that fairy's soul, and it could traumatize the fairy.

Before even considering a relationship with a fairy, one must constantly learn and do research on a fairy's general mindset, way of living, etc., to determine if it's even possible for a mortal human turned to an immortal human/fairy to have sex with a pure fairy.

[Anonymous No.]

So is this really, KoG?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm agreeing with KoG's every point
what the fuck is going on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10172848
this

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>>10172818
There is only one truth.

Law's shouldnt decide wether a loli should have sex or not. Only the loli is the only to determine what to do with her body.

Anyone, or anything, any law that forbids someone to do decide for themselves is the same as slavery.

-- however, hurting someone else should be punished by death sentence; that which happens once can and will happen a second time if given enough time. Anyone who commits something "inhumane" and hurts anyone else, by violating the aforementioned principle, is to no longer be considered or treated as a human being.

Love to consenting fairy = good.
Rape = not good.

[Anonymous No.]

>this thread

[Anonymous No.]

What's wrong with fapping to my waifu? I'd like to imagine her as my wife and that's the kind of thing you'd do with your wife. The damn word itself means wife.

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>>10172855

Same fag.

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>>10172853

Again, when did I ever say that rape was good? Are you misunderstanding the purpose of why I brought up rape in the first place?

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>>10172841
>As long as the mind is in an adolescent, developing state the person or being should be free from things that can cause trauma
You haven't really offered a counterpoint, I didn't really expect one, and instead are making admissions to what I've said. You haven't presented a reason that this would be a good thing for the target of your lust, you're just trying to get your rocks off. That's selfish and you should feel bad. If you want to clear things up, go ask ZUN. I'm confident his answer will disappoint your kiddie cravings.

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>>10172861

Before you continue trying to counter me, I need a clear understanding of what you believe my argument is and what you are arguing against, because you're either trolling me out of boredom or not understanding my point of view.

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>>10172841
So you suggest that having lived a potentially infinite amount of time prior to you, said fairy has the possibility of experiencing any number of traumatizing events which parallels still exist within our own world which could potentially cause the fairy duress.

I find this somewhat sketchy, all though we are dealing with the realm of immortal fairies, wild speculation leads nowhere but inanity.

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>>10172864
No, but you could have saved everyone a lot of time by stating truth instead of arguing about bullshit.

There isn't really anything to argue about if you know the truth. Arguing is only a method to find out the truth, according to greek philosophers at least.

Also to vent out some anger and have some silly fun on the intetnet.

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>>10172853
Not good? Not good for who? Answer me!
Not good for you, or the fairy. It's certainly quite good for me though.
I'll happily throw away my status as a human if it means keeping my selfishness.

[Anonymous No.]

Meido's here.

[Anonymous No.]

I masturbate while thinking about raping my "waifu" and making her my personal slave. What are you going to do about it, nerd? True love revolves around a master/servant relationship, and there's no way in hell that I'm going to be the filfthy servant.

[Anonymous No.]

What is with midnight 4chan and "waifu" crap, anyway? Get over it, you circle-"fapping" fags. Unless you want the rest of the world to eventually decide you're simply gay for each other, and write you off as a not entirely unexpected total loss.

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>>10172879
What you're asuming is that fairy conciously lived that "potentially" "infinite" amount of time.
What if they only percieved it as we percieve our lifetime?
lel.

[Anonymous No.]

Wheyfuus.
Wayfoo
Whiteflutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10172879

In retrospect, since our base existence is energy, and energy cannot be created nor destroy (just changed in form), it can be argued that we have all existed always, even outside of the concept of time. The only thing that is finite is our current memory. The scenario with experience in relation to fairies is greatly determined by how long said memory experience has lasted for. If a fairy has existed for literally thousands upon thousands of years in a closed environment, then the concept of sex might not even exist. Perhaps it can even be argued that a pure fairy who has never experienced fear not has no reason to fear anything (since she's immortal) might not even know the concept of trauma. Such things have to be determined on an individual basis after experience and research.

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>>10172900

>Perhaps it can even be argued that a pure fairy who has never experienced fear not has no reason to fear anything (since she's immortal) might not even know the concept of trauma.

>mfw too lazy to proofread

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>>10172888
Not good for the fairy.

But also not good for you: rape is loveless and agressive.
1) it will not feel as good as loving sex, and the consequences will never be the same.
2) if you enjoy rape you have several neurosis and are mentally fucked up, and can't enjoy life as much as if you were a sane human being.

Keep in mind that what I call a same human being is not the same as what you might call a sane human being. I do not mean it in the normalfag fashion, those are a crazy bunch.

Someone sane is someone proficient enough in meditation to have awaken his true self, and is able to reprogram his brain to a good extent, and as such, has realised a lot about life and himself.

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>>10172877
Your point is that having consensual sex with fairies isn't a bad thing. Your argument has been that they're immortal so there's no better time than now. My argument is that you have no basis to assume that and that in fact we would be lead to believe the opposite since the results of early sexual activity in humans are negative. My point is that you're delusional and should keep it in your pants.

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>>10172908
Also I should add.

Honestly, sex is just an activity you do as lover, not something self gratifying as masturbation.
It's merely a way to connect with one another.
What's so great about sex isn't sex itself, it's your lover.

So people who can't think of self about their waifu are no better than brainwashed christians, they will never enjoy their life to the extent I do.

[Anonymous No.]

Which thread is better for shitposting?
This or flanfly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10172908

I agree with everything but the reprogramming through meditation. Meditation is only one tool that you can use to further your mind and expand your consciousness and awareness. It's when you build a toolbox and use it efficiently can you reach a high potential.

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>>10172915
>self about their waifu
derp herp
sex with their waifu*

[Anonymous No.]

>>10172908
>>10172915
If enjoyment in life is tied to something outside of myself then I'll happily accept my death sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10172913

>Your point is that having consensual sex with fairies isn't a bad thing.

That is correct. As long as both the human/fairy and the other fairy are agreeing through every step of the activity, there is no problem.

>Your argument has been that they're immortal so there's no better time than now.

You have misunderstood and need to read my previous posts where I stated that I would be willing to take it as slow as need be and if the fairy never reached a level of understanding high enough to be accepting of the activity or felt there was any benefit to it, I would be more than willing to keep it strictly as a friendship.

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>>10172917
I beg to difer.

I wouldn't put meditation under the label "tool".
I would say that autosuggestion and drugs are tool, but not meditation.

However, that's mostly semantics.

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>>10172894
But in the hypothetical situation presented, fairies were once mortals. Could you please clarify whether you mean that the fairies themselves as a race perceive time differently, or the method to which in this scenario achieved immortality has changed their perception of time?

>>10172900
I do not find this particularly constructive to debate via conjecture and would much rather prefer we spend our time researching an actual case of this. but I must point out some things.

The first thing I must ascertain, is your specific definition of immortality. You just speculated that we may all have existed simply in another form, is the fairies' immortality simply the ability to maintain their form indefinitely? And if you suggest that a fairy may not even have a concept of trauma, you cannot exclude that the fairy may also not posses other conceptual emotions. I do however, agree that we should be discovering, and not guessing.

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>>10172926

Yeah, it's just semantics/word choice. Tool, method, practice, etc.

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>>10172926

Yeah, it's just semantics/word choice. Tool, method, practice, etc. I just chose the word "tool" so I could use the toolbox analogy to convey the point that meditation is not the only thing you can use/practice.

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>>10172923
>something outside of myself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest

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>>10172932
Tool implied that meditation is something that isn't intrinsically part of one's self.

Keep in mind that separating time and space is what caused the fuckery known as modern physics and had to be fixed by Einstein.

Semantics is more important than you'd think.

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>>10172925
I have perfectly understood what you have said. Slow is never. You never have any basis to assume that any level of sexual activity is OK and every reason to assume that it would be harmful. I think what you should spend more time thinking about is why you're so insistent on projecting your sexuality onto a cute little girl from a shmup that you would try to create a philosophical argument against the obvious reality.

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>>10172937
>You never have any basis to assume that any level of sexual activity is OK and every reason to assume that it would be harmful.

So sex is never okay?

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>>10172937
>>10172925


Allow me to butt-in again, but if the only rule here should be:
Be careful what you wish for.

If no trickery and malice is used, then it's acceptable.

Who are we to decide what a fairy should do or shouldn't. That's what moralfags do.

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>>10172944
Not with little girls and fairies.

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>>10172949
Why?
Why is it okay with anyone else?

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>>10172937
You forgot to stop impersonating safe-kun

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>>10172948
That's what responsible adults do. Humans are sexually aware well before they should be sexually active. Regardless of what you may have convinced yourself of, psych*ist offices and residential treatment centers around the globe are full of the results of people that participated in sexual activity early. Plenty of them were willing and thought it felt good at the time. It's not healthy.

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>>10172930

There might be different types of immortality (even amongst fairies). In Fairy Wars, Cirno dies due to lack of willpower. Therefore, it can be argued that one form of immortality is that a fairy is immortal as long as it has a reason for living. When it no longer wants to life, it casts off or stores away its memories until that energy wants to live through another experience. It can then choose to either restore its previous memories or start fresh to live a different experience.

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When you say "cute little girl", you are forgetting that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. IMO, it is okay to have sex with a little girl with a mature mindset than a big breasted MILF with the mindset of a 3 year old. Also, in the majority of cases where adults have sex with children, they do not really "love" the child. They are just trying to release sexual urges, and their own morality is corrupted. Trying to apply the same rules of "too young" to immortals does not apply.

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>>10172954
I call bullshit on your "study" because there is no controll group.

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>>10172937
Slow for a fairy may indeed mean never in relative relation to a human's lifespan, but I do not think that the assertion can stand upon its own.

You also stated that KoG is pushing his sexuality upon a fairy, but you also impose human standards to suggest that it would be a harmful thing.

Even if you are trying to shoe-horn human morality upon another race, I am skeptical of the claim that voluntary pedophilia is even harmful to human children in the first place. There are many precedents in history that will attest to this, and will point to this shift in ethics being a recent phenomenon.

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>>10172502
My "take" is that you should fuck off with your madonna/whore complex.

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i love this board sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

quick question to kog: do you believe in the 2012 stuff?

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>>10172965
We understand human psychology and the human lifespan. It is the only foundation from which we have on which to draw a conclusion. The entire issue is that we are dealing with things we don't understand when talking about fairies, so your argument is in essence assuming everything instead of assuming one thing (that fairy development would resemble an organism they resemble). If you want to go fuck one be my guest, just don't pretend you're doing something unselfish. You're not trying to do anyone but yourself a favor. Occam's razor agrees with me, and I would again encourage you to ask ZUN.

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>>10172970

Do I believe the world will end? It's possible. The world can end at any time.

Do I believe we humans will ascend into the next dimension? It's possible. However, there is no evidence to prove this.

Do I believe there will be an alien invasion, either real or staged by the government? It's possible, but again, there's no tangible evidence to this.

What is 100% factual is that a lot of people are relying on this date for massive change. I have seen many people stressed out, and some are even considering suicide if nothing happens due to how terrible this planet is. Regardless if anything that has been predicted happens or not, there will be millions of people making their own thoughts a reality around that date.

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>>10172953
ごめん

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>>10172936
Tool made swamp song and a bunch of stuff that was good.

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>>10172980
This doujin proves that you're an idiot: http://exhentai.org/g/246063/b3fe8f31be/

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>>10172980
>We understand human psychology and the human lifespan. It is the only foundation from which we have on which to draw a conclusion.
It is entirely erroneous to apply standards you are familiar with to the unknown.
The entire issue is that we are dealing with things we don't understand when talking about fairies, so your argument is in essence assuming everything instead of assuming one thing (that fairy development would resemble an organism they resemble).
I do not believe I have stated anything contrary to this.
>If you want to go fuck one be my guest, just don't pretend you're doing something unselfish. You're not trying to do anyone but yourself a favor.
Was not your argument that it was most likely harmful to them not a few minutes ago?

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>>10172985
Did you mean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy?

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>>10172980
It would of been nice to answer our questions individually or said something other then "I'm right you're wrong" but whatever