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Is there nothing we can do about this terrible injustice?

>> No.10083203

muh dick

>> No.10083205

Explain to me why touhou.wikia is more frowned upon using than en.touhouwiki.

>> No.10083207

Explain it, weeaboos. What is injustice?

>> No.10083208

I think it's because google favors wikia, and not just in this instance.

>> No.10083209

bulbapedia is listed below pokemon.wikia
uesp is listed below elderscrolls.wikia

>> No.10083210

>>10083209
Skyrim and Pokemon? Seriously? Nobody gives a shit about your /v/ crap.

>> No.10083211

>>10083205
It's been discussed

>> No.10083214

>>10083203
>Explain to me why touhou.wikia is more frowned upon using than en.touhouwiki.

I don't know if one is frowned upon, but I've personally found tohou.wikia.com to be less useful than en.touhouwiki.net for finding information.

>> No.10083215

wikia pays google for that so no you can't do anything.
>>10083205
It's not up to date anymore. Touhouwiki is the hor place where things happen.

>> No.10083226

>>10083210
Fuck off assblaster, Pokemon is otaku culture.

>> No.10083229

>>10083205
wikia has ugly design and is for people who care about epic memes, touhouwiki.net is for people who actually care about touhou and the characters

I still think we should mail them and tell them that we disapprove of the faeries

>> No.10083247

>>10083229
Google isn't going to change their results manually.

Better to ask whoever runs touhouwiki.net to apply some SEO.

>> No.10083255

>>10083205
Wikia has been outdated since at least 2010.
Also poolshmer vandalized them to hell and back after the move, so there's a lot misinformation in their trivia sections

>> No.10083262

>>10083255
For instance, compare this completely bogus section, from the wikia
>Rank ranges from zero to thirty-two, and is reset to sixteen at the beginning of each stage. It increases gradually with survival time, and jumps up noticeably on defeating spell cards, until it reaches the cap of thirty-two, corresponding to the highest variable difficulty. The rank value is decreased by sixteen whenever the player is hit. This means that, for the most part, the only way to reduce the variable difficulty is to die. Since the rank drop occurs on a hit, not a death, it is theoretically possible, through counter-bombing (see Lives, above), to reduce the value by sixteen without the loss of a life. Since the game's allowed counter-bomb interval is so short, though, it is difficult in practice to do so deliberately.

To the wiki counterpart:
Rank ranges from 10 to 32 (from 12 to 20 on easy, and from 14 to 18 in Extra), and is set to 16 at the beginning of the game. It increases gradually with survival time (+1 every ~32 seconds), item collection (from +0 to +2 depending on the item type), grazing (+0.06) and gaining an extra life through score (+0.02), until it reaches the cap of thirty-two, corresponding to the highest variable difficulty. The rank value is decreased by sixteen whenever the player is hit, by two when the player uses a bomb, and by 0.03 when an item disappears through the bottom of the screen.

>> No.10083282

I thought google automatically moved the site results up for you if you visit that site enough.

>> No.10083323

>>10083262
I thank you for your information, if you are feeling more helpful, would you mind also explaining the foolz vs. warosu conundrum?

>> No.10083334

>>10083323
Foolz has /a/ so only subhuman anime watchers use it, i.e. the shitposters.
True /jp/sies use warosu.

>> No.10083336

>>10083334
and ads.

>> No.10083343

>>10083334
That souds biased, as it should. But thats not a definitive reason to use 1 over the other, since 1 is available to 1 group but not the other. I dont really archive that much, but when i do i use warosu, but thats only because ive been told do without reason, and im looking for that reason, i somewhat know it has to do with jones or something.

>> No.10083365

Allow me another question.

Who cares about this? Is the world going to end because Google shows a certain result above another result? Does the stability of the whole universe depend on it being in the opposite way?

Nobody cares since you got the information you want anyway.

>> No.10083375

>>10083365
Keep whining because everybody left the wikia, kiddo.

>> No.10083386

>>10083255
So the only people who actually care about this are sub-human pooshlmer scum, good to know

>> No.10083413

>>10083386
No, it's a matter of quality. Touhou wiki is the better quality one by far.

>> No.10083536

>>10083229
>wikia has ugly design and is for people who care about epic memes

Indeed. Touhouwiki is totally not about epic memes or user pandering. Not one bit.

>> No.10083540

>>10083343
Warosu has spyware. It's spammed as the best alternative by the people who made it so they can fuck you over. Some people bought into it.

>> No.10083541

>>10083536
if you think it panders to the users too much just don't use it

there are a wealth of sources out there with the same information

>> No.10083569

duckduckgo !touhou bang gives you touhou wiki

>> No.10083589

>>10083541
I like that you're so stoic when it comes to touhouwiki being full of secondaries yet so irated when touhou wikia does it.

>> No.10083616

>>10083589
my advice to people pissed off by touhou wikia is exactly the same - look elsewhere for your shit - so i don't see how you came the the conclusion that i've been massively irritated by the wikia

for most people this "elsewhere" would be touhouwiki but you are perfectly free to look elsewhere if that website is also unacceptable to you

>> No.10083626

>>10083540
What's the point of spying into a bunch of NEETs anyway.

>> No.10084136

>>10083540
Tell me more, I'm interested.

>> No.10084156

I prefer en.touhouwiki just because it has Alice and I love Alice

>> No.10084173

>>10084156
But this one has Alice too.

>> No.10084170
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>>10083334
true /jp/sies don't watch anime? Sorry, but what you're saying is just too ludicrous.

>> No.10084201

>>10084173
No, it has the crowslut

>> No.10084202

>>10083540
I have a hard time believing that.

>> No.10084212

If you are using foolz it is a 99 percent chance you are a crossboarder.

>> No.10084217

>>10083589
Touhou wikia features users that are part of fandom daily. They are much mroe focused on dealing with secondary activities than touhouwiki, that focuses more on presentations of canon material.

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10084226

>Search will be unavailable for a while due to migration
shame on a nigga!

>> No.10084234

>>10084212
I like looking opening images, and foolz is much easier to use. The only complaint I have ever heard about foolz is woxxy and his normalcy. I don't care if the guy who runs an archive for 4chan is normal, he does it better than his competitor or whatever you want to call the guy who runs warosu.

>> No.10084480

>>10083323
foolz censors the archive, and doesn't archive some pages.

warosu up until recently didn't archive images which made it worse, but now that it does it's better than foolz.

>> No.10084485

>>10084480
Really? I've only seen it censor CP and tokike's dox.

>> No.10084495

>>10084485
Those dick pictures as well. In other words, absolutely nothing of value.

>> No.10084557

>>10084226
When's the search going to be back up? I want to remove Foolz from my bookmarks already.

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10084593

Warosu:
https://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S10032583

Foolz:
https://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/10032583


Warosu:
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S9835004

Foolz:
http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/9835004

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>>10084593
Foolz is for fools.

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>>10084593

>> No.10084687

http://duckduckgo.com/?q=touhou+wiki&t=oen

>> No.10084751

You better not change it, if they get less ad revenue from ad clicks they might sue.

>> No.10084777

>>10083569
I added that bang. !iqdb too.

The Wikia is still above touhouwiki.net in the results, though.

I suspect Wikia has some CEO crap so it appears first for "x wiki" results, it would explain >>10083209

>> No.10084794

I like how Pooshlmer's Wiki hated the Touhou Wikia because of all its fan content, but now their wiki has "Fanon Culture" sections. There are main characters whose "Backstory" sections are empty, but "Fanon Culture" has twenty bullet points about epic Tumblr memes.
They even have shit like this now:
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Fan-made_characters/Meimu
If Neko Scarlet was made by an Asian, it would be on there.

Pooshlmer are hypocrites. They pretend to be elitist and professional, then pull retarded shit, (e.g. fairies).

>> No.10084929

>>10083334
Anyone on /jp/ who doesn't watch anime or play video games is too new to make such claims.

Get out of here, post-split scum.

>> No.10084938

>>10084929
I outgrew anime shortly after the split.

>> No.10084951

>>10084938
Who the fuck "outgrows" a hobby?

That's normalfag shit.

>> No.10084988

>>10084938
what a fag, are you like 20 or something?

you don't outgrow shit, come back when you've studied under a wizard

>> No.10084996

>>10084951
>>10084988
Sometimes you find better things to do than playing with legos.

>> No.10085005

>>10084794
>If Neko Scarlet was made by an Asian, it would be on there.
People give more credit to things that are actually recognized by a non-trivial portion of the Touhou doujin community. For example, Hei Meiling is neither canon nor particularly famous, but thousands of people recognize her existence and she has a pixiv encyclopedia article. Neko Scarlet is a character who was known to, what, two people before somebody made a wikia page for her? I have no idea how popular this "Meimu" is, so I can't say whether or not this is an example of retardation.

>> No.10085006

>>10084951
I just got bored of anime. It happens.

>>10084988
29. I become a wizard in January.

>> No.10085020

>>10085005
Popularity isn't the only thing that makes something notable.

I can see the sense in having information on fan games and music, but unofficial in-universe content has no place in a reference/encyclopedia like this. It's simply not notable, not even as part of the fandom.

>> No.10085022

>>10084996
Things you do as a clueless child hardly counts a hobby.

>> No.10085032

>>10085020
So would you delete a hypothetical article on the well-known MUGEN character Oni Miko R from the wiki? Or, for that matter, a section on the common depiction of "oni miko Reimu" in pictures, doujinshi, and fangames?

>> No.10085041

>>10085006
You need to come study under me then before you're life is destroyed, if you ascend to wizardhood without ideal preparation you might be ruined for life.

You gotta watch the right animus in the right state of mind.

>> No.10085049

>>10085032
Yes, just as I would like Wikipedia to be free of ``Trivia'' and 99% of its ``in Popular Culture'' sections.

The fanbase is a big part of Touhou, but I think the Wiki should concentrate on canonical in-universe or relevant out-of-universe facts. Memes are fine. Certain players are fine. But xXxTheShadowKillerxXx's Mecha-Reimu character isn't.

>> No.10085061

Is Mitori wiki relevant? She had a lasting effect on the touhou fan community to the point where she appears in many unrelated fan works as if she was canon.

>> No.10085070

>>10085049
The Touhou wiki has always been a source of information on both ZUN's works and everyone else's. It has an extensive catalog of fangames, Touhou arrange CDs, and translated doujinshi. You basically can't talk about Touhou Project without talking the doujin community that surrounds it anyway, so I don't see why information about it has to be stripped away as long as it's clear what's canon and what's not.

>> No.10085104

>>10084794
I miss Neko Scarlet... why did I ever delete her article?

>> No.10085146

>>10083205
wikia is not free as in freedom; it is a website that makes money via advertising revenue. touhouwiki is powered by donations, just like muh hakurei gingers.

>> No.10085151

>>10085070
I'm not disagreeing with you. Fangames and doujin circles and so on are fine, and what a lot of people use the Wiki for. What is not fine is non-canonical in-universe information.
I know it's not trying to strictly imitate Wikipedia or an encyclopedia, but it should be a proper reference guide where official materials are concerned. They seemed to have this idea at first after the downfall of the Wikia wiki, but now they're slipping and I'm worried it's going to go the same route.

>> No.10085176

Touhouwiki has a simplistic, professional-looking design (ignoring the front page characters that seem to be causing a bit of autistorm lately).

Wikia sites in general all have that shitty Web 2.0 design, and a horrible management interface (want to look up an article's edit history? too bad, disable NoScript first, and then click on a shitload of dropdown menus)

>> No.10085187

If wikia has fake stuff in it to throw off the secondaries This Can Only Be A Good Thing™

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