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Previous thread: >>10020130
Talk about grazing bullets, dodging bullets, bullets in general and don't forget to ask for advice or blog about your achievements.

>> No.10072529

>>10061118
>counting points is the only reason i enjoy the games. they'd be boring otherwise.
Have you tried playing a better game.

>> No.10072584

>>10072228
Well, that was short-lived. Anyone else interested in arranging a little stream?

>> No.10072597

Subterranean Animism has weird hitboxes. Well, maybe not weird, but it feels like I can't get away with as much flukey shit now because the hitboxes seem to be the exact same size as the shot rather than smaller by a few pixels...

>> No.10072606

>>10072597
I feel that way about MoF, I think it's a matter of getting used to it.

>> No.10072610

>>10072606
Those fucking little stars in the waterfall level wont give you a fucking inch, I swear to god.

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10072636

I'm waiting for a marvellous stream /jp/

>> No.10072651

>>10072636
I can see your pantsu

>> No.10072655

>>10072636
then why are you posting anime pictures?

>> No.10072662

>>10072636

Urgh, if you insist. Feeling tired and floopy, so please don't be too disappointed if it's short or shittier than usual.

twitch.tv/adamar09

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>>10072655

>> No.10073144

>>10072529
yeah, i play cave games.

>> No.10073258

bump

>> No.10073290

http://www.twitch.tv/minogame

>> No.10073304

>>10073290
Incidentally I happened to catch a glimpse of your stream yesterday, please don't scream like that ever again I almost got a heart attack.

>> No.10073324

>>10073290
are you using save states?

Wow haha ok I'll never watch that stream fucking pathetic.

>> No.10074998

God damn it, just playing UFO for a basic clear is more of a chore than playing IN for score. I fail to see why people love this game so much.

>> No.10075821

Does anyone hate extra bosses for some of their gimmicky spellcards? It kind of irks me that you have to see replays just to know how to counter them.

Or maybe it's fun to figure out how the spellcard works. What you guys think?

>> No.10075891

>>10075821
>It kind of irks me that you have to see replays just to know how to counter them.
No you don't.

>Or maybe it's fun to figure out how the spellcard works.
This.

>> No.10075964

>>10075821
Well most of these games are pure memory anyway so it's not like it's any different from regular stage runs.

>> No.10076209

What's the difference between all the Dodonpachis? And which ones are emulatable?

>> No.10076405

>>10076209
If people in the west actually gave a shit about STG's, AVGN could do a chronologically confused review of Dodonpachi. Cave's STG's are a lot like Capcom's fighting games; they tend to have a lot of redundant spinoffs that only nerds could tell you the difference between.

Main games:
Donpachi
Dodonpachi
Dodonpachi 2: Bee Storm
Dodonpachi Daioujou (aka Dodonpachi 3)
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu
Dodonpachi Saidaioujou

Games that have "Black Label" and "Death Label" in their names are basically just harder versions for people who have mastered the normal version.

There's also Dodonpachi Blue Label, but that's super-rare and there's no rom dump of it.

>> No.10076460

>>10076405
Those games actually have some sort of plot of events happening in order?

>> No.10076598

>>10076460
Yes. I might have a few details wrong but I think the story is like this:

Donpachi: You're fighting an alien invasion that it turns out is actually other humans and the whole thing was a training exercise to train you for the REAL enemy.
Dodonpachi: You fight the aliens who are trying to destroy the universe with the ancient superweapon Angry Bee God.
Dodonpachi 2: I don't think this game actually has a canon story.
Daioujou: The Dodonpachi Corps defeated the alien menace but were deemed too threatening to be allowed to live on Earth, so they were banished to the moon. And now they're back! And have ressurrected the God of Bees! You will fight them with the power of the Elemental Dolls, which are android girls who are also copilots.
Daifukkatsu: After the events of Daijoubu, the android girls are banished to the moon, where they grow up into giant robots who look like Sailor Moon characters mixed with Gundam, and it turns out the "good guy" Colonel Longhorn is actually blah blah blah something something God of Bees.
Saidaioujou: The Elemental Dolls are somehow still alive, and they used a time machine to travel back in time and invent dubstep, and now you havWUB WUB WUBUBUBUBUBUB WUB WUB WUBUBUBUBUBUB

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10077004

This is the farthest i could go. Too many mistakes. It may take 20 more tries to win.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=25358

>> No.10077018

>>10076405
>Games that have "Black Label" and "Death Label" in their names are basically just harder versions for people who have mastered the normal version.

Black Labels are usually much easier for survival at least.

>> No.10077404

Is it the time to stream yet?

>> No.10077431

where do you download your touhou games from? i don't want a virus :((

>> No.10077448
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>>10077404
I can stream myself playing Recca (proto-bullet hell shooter on the NES), if anyone would actually watch that.

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>>10077448
Or are you guys only interested in 2hu?

>> No.10077473

>>10077448
If you stream on twitch.tv i'll watch.

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>>10077473
H-here I go! This is my first time using twitch.tv, so it took me a little while to set up.
twitch dot tv slash ANTSANTS

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>>10077624
>not even 1 viewer

>> No.10077667

>>10072517

I still can't make a level 1 1-UP in Esp Ra.De.

I feel... not good.

>> No.10077720

>>10077660
/jp/ moves slow as shit around this time. I'd be surprised if there were 5 people around.

>> No.10077728

>>10077660
who...quote.....

>> No.10077767

>>10077660
I'm watchign you die to red horseshoes but fuck if I'm signing up just to chat.

>> No.10077773

>>10077660
We aren't going to create an account to just chat, hence why you are the only one in chat.

>> No.10077780

>>10077767
>>10077773
Oh, you have to make an account to chat? Fuck that, I understand.

I'm used to streaming on Livestream/Mogulus, where you don't need an account for that.

Also goddamn, that's like the 5th time I've died just before that boss.

>> No.10077785

>>10077780
>Oh, you have to make an account to chat? Fuck that, I understand.
>I'm used to streaming on Livestream/Mogulus, where you don't need an account for that.

The vast majority of streamers have switched to twitch, ignore those nerds.

>> No.10077787

>>10077785
who are you quoting dude

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>>10077785
Fuck you sperglord.

>> No.10077792

>>10077785
I like it when when you say "the vast majority of". It's always a good reason.

>> No.10077831

>>10077780
Try just shooting the turrents off normally first

>> No.10077854

>>10077831
They respawn almost instantaneously, I've tried and watched longplays.

It's pretty much impossible to beat if you died beforehandm, but I'll see what I can do.

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10077875

>>10077785
Yeah, I have to say, talking with random /jp/easies was my favorite part about streaming, so I don't think I'll be doing anything on twitchtv if that's the case.

How was the video quality? I tried to balance it so that it wouldn't stutter while still playing at 60hz.

>> No.10077923

>>10077767
>>10077773
For future:
You only need to put in a bullshit email address to make an account, no verification needed. It takes 3 seconds. 3.

>> No.10077926

>>10076209
>And which ones are emulatable?
Donpachi and Dodonpachi run effortlessly on MAME. I never tried Dodonpachi 2, but I believe it should also do. I managed to run Daioujou as well, but I heard it has sound issues.

>> No.10077929

>>10077797
>>>/v/

>> No.10077935

>>10077923
Yeah, you don't even need to verify your email to stream stuff.

>> No.10078337

How about a stream, Adamar?

>> No.10078361

>>10077926
Daioujou is pretty fine.

>> No.10078481

>>10077926
DDP2 was broken with invisible enemies and shit last time I tried it. I don't think anyone cares though.

>> No.10078503

>>10078337

OK.

>>10072662

>> No.10078930

>>10075821
I think that watching replays is an important part of being successful in any shooting game. This is one of the things that attracts me to the genre.
>>10077004
You are close.
>>10077431
http://pastebin.com/VQCXzQMv
>>10077780
Would it be possible to embed a video from Twitch onto a different website with a custom chat client to bypass the registration policy? There has to be a way to get around it.

>> No.10078943

>>10078930
>I think that watching replays is an important part of being successful in any shooting game.
But it's so much more fun without resorting to any.

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>>10078930
thank you for the pastebin link. i ended up downloading this and it appears to be fine (in-case anyone is looking for a download as well): http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=torrentinfo&tid=353527

>> No.10078964

>>10078943
You don't like watching replays? If you like figuring things out on your own, there should still be a lot of room for that. There's always going to be plenty of things that replays can't teach.
>>10078946
I should add that to the Pastebin. It needs an update.

>> No.10079396

>>10078481
There was a version of MAME released earlier this year that runs it properly. The game's really shitty though, so it's not like you're missing much.

>> No.10079412

I just got one of my friends to start touhou (I am a hard-lunatic player)

Lulz were to be had when he though Cirno's yellow bullets on easy were lemons and assumed they were safe.

>> No.10079434

>>10079412
>introducing newfags to touhou
>friends
>Lulz
>on easy

Do I really need to say anything?

Get out.

>> No.10079454

>>10079434
No.

>> No.10082951

Bump.

>> No.10082986

>>10079434
who are you of quitings

>> No.10083003

>>10078943
I do that until I feel like I've hit a brick wall.

>> No.10083011

>>10079434
Heaven forbid introducing new people to shmups.

>> No.10083051

>>10083011
Why would you do that? Playing shmups doesn't exactly boost the national economy.

>> No.10083196

Could some kind person stream for a bit?

>> No.10083206

>>10083051
That's not the point. Increasing the fanbase is hardly a bad thing. There's sort of a reason why Cave is the only company really still doing this commercially.

Unless you're one of those people that thinks the secret club needs to be protected at all costs, and I'm just wasting my time typing this.

>> No.10083228

>>10083206
CAVE should just sink peacefully. I'd rather play the current games until the end of time than see DingDongPatchi XVII with built-in streaming capabilities on Steam.

>> No.10083252

>>10083228
I really hope you aren't saying you'd rather see people become unemployed because the franchise might go off in a direction you might not like.

>> No.10083281

>>10083252
I really hope you don't keep creative professionals imprisoned in the endless cycle of making bad games because they sell.

>> No.10083280

>>10083252
A franchise ends doesn't mean people become unemployed. They can work on a new franchise.

>> No.10083301

>>10083280
Didn't know Cave itself was a franchise.

>>10083281
Whatever puts food on their plates.

>> No.10083309

>>10083206
Grev is still making games as well.

>>10083228
Nah, they should continue making the best games the genre has to offer.

>> No.10083311

>>10083281
>bad games

casual spotted

>> No.10083315
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10083315

You guys, Cave has been focusing on the cell phone market for a while now.

>> No.10083324

>>10083315
The cell phone ports have always been done by a different team.

>> No.10083329

>>10083301
>Whatever puts food on their plates.
Being forced to aim towards mediocrity as a creator.

>> No.10083345

>>10083329
SaiDaiOuJou is the best Dodonpachi.

>> No.10083354

>>10083311
Alright: commercialized rehashes. I put no value in recreating something that already exists if it's not for practice or enjoyment. Do the newer games follow Ketsui's design philosophy?

>> No.10083356

>>10083345
It's a huge improvement over DOJ, isn't it? Ten years, man. What could they have been doing instead?

>> No.10083360

>>10083196
Still nobody who'd be interested to stream for a while?

>> No.10083374

Why doesn't anyone ever stream when I'm online?
;_;

>> No.10083393

>>10083374

You're online at the wrong time, obviously.

But seriously, how long are you going to be around?

>> No.10083421

>>10083393
Probably for the whole day unless I have to go out to buy groceries.

>> No.10083424

>>10083393
What's the best time for watching anyway.

>> No.10083449

>>10083424
Adamar usually starts streaming at around 14-16 GMT every day, followed by a bunch of other streams until around 3, at which point a cycle is complete.

>> No.10083598

>>10083354
They don't recreate games that already exist. Each one of their shmups are incredibly different from one another because of all the work they put into creating unique scoring systems.

>Do the newer games follow Ketsui's design philosophy?
What philosophy is that?

>> No.10083648

How exactly do I unlock phantasm in PCB? I just cleared the extra but apparently I need "60 unique spellcard captures" as well. Does that mean if I capture a spellcard on easy, normal, hard and lunatic it will count 4 times or only once? Do captures with different shot types count multiple times?

>> No.10083658

I haven't played touhou since April.

I went back and middled around in some extra stages I had long since forgotten.

Somehow I beat stage 6 normal MoF capturing all cards and securing a personal high score. I guess dodging danmaku is like riding a bike, you pick it back up instantly.

>> No.10083690

>>10083648
Different shots don't count, but different difficulties do.

>> No.10083710

>>10083658
It's not. Most people will get worse over time.

>> No.10083800

Streaming. Going to try to defeat Koishi again.

http://www.livestream.com/notapirate

>> No.10084196

>>10083598
>What philosophy is that?

Being shit!

>> No.10084207

you guys are so spergy about taking 3 seconds to sign up to a website to chat, fucking hell

>> No.10084288

>>10083800
Nice stream, a bit crazy though.
That was entertaining.

>> No.10084811

If anyone is still interested, I might stream some IN within a bit.

>> No.10084856

>>10084811
Yes, please.

>> No.10084928

>>10084811
Please do.

>> No.10084967

>>10084856
>>10084928
http://livestream.com/seppostream
Let's go die to easymode, won't play for long.

>> No.10087019

Does anyone have a good PCB phantasm replay? Trying to learn the stage/spellcards but most runs on Youtube are either gimmicky (90 fps etc) or full of deaths and border abuse.

>> No.10087047

http://score.royalflare.net/archives/th07/th7_ud1d36.rpy

>> No.10087053

>>10087019
5 second search
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUqeQxEQYYU

>> No.10088578

>>10084207
It's the principle of it. As fast and easy as it may be, there is something decidedly uncozy about needing to do it at all.

>> No.10089256

>>10088578
I only have a hard time coming up with usernames.
Also, ageru because OP didn't add STG/Touhou to the subject field.

>> No.10089433

Could someone stream for a bit?

>> No.10090020

>>10072662

Mountain of Faith, normal. Just want to knock these last two shottypes out.

>> No.10091338

twitch.tv/cactu1

Cactu is streaming now, to whoever is interested.

>> No.10091556

>>10091338
Exxel continues.
http://www.twitch.tv/exxelent

>> No.10091592

Is Eden's Aegis on heaven suppose to be harder than Blue Wish Resurrection Plus on original? Or am I just playing wrong?

>> No.10092430
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10092430

Playing PCB Until I 1cc or pass out.
http://www.twitch.tv/lawlium_

>> No.10092457

>>10092430

>PCB

amazing taste

>> No.10092671

Any good non-touhou STGs worth playing?

>> No.10092676

>>10092671
No, Touhou is the best.

>> No.10092684
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10092684

Played Touhou for the first time in 2 years last night, and got to Yuyuko before having to use a continue on normal. I was really hoping I could 1CC it again, but I guess it's been too long. Didn't die until level 5, but then made some stupid mistakes and went into Yuyuko fight with too few lives.

>> No.10092696

>>10092684
I was playing PCB of course.

>>10092671
Yes, tons of them. CAVE makes very good STGs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAVE_%28company%29

>> No.10092713

I tried running EoSD on the shitty laptop I'm using, but it didn't work.

It's really old, but it does at least fulfill the minimum requirements, so I'm thinking it must be something else.

What exactly happens is that the only thing showing up on screen are two static backgrounds/splash screens, the opening one and I think the menu one.

But I can hear sounds, select things, and even start a game and start shooting, I just can't see anything.

Anyone know how to fix this?

>> No.10092744

>>10092671
Most shooters by Cave, Taito, Cave, Konami, Cave, Psikyo, Cave...

>> No.10092745
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10092745

Anyone ever beaten Gradius III? The arcade version, not the shitty SNES port. Game is fucking brutal.

>> No.10092752

>>10092745
Anyone here on /jp/ I mean, before someone gives smart ass reply that someone somewhere has beaten it

>> No.10092767

>>10092745
Yeah I had the Gradius III/IV disc for PS2. I beat it eventually.

>> No.10092799

>>10092767
Have you seen the video on Youtube of the guy beating it on hardest difficulty?

>> No.10092797

>>10092744
G.Rev and Treasure too, although their shooters are typically very different from Touhou.

>> No.10092805

>>10092799
beating it with no continues of course

>> No.10092977

>>10092684
I remember now why I quit playing these fucking games. They make me fucking mad. Just lost my last life on Yuyuko's reflowering shit because I fucked up on a deathbomb. About broke something. /blog

>> No.10093038

>>10092713
Please respond.

>> No.10093044

>>10093038
update graphics card drivers

>> No.10093277

>>10092977
>fucked up a deathbomb
You mean you got hit by a bullet. Game too hard.

>> No.10093287

>>10093277
Well, yes I obviously got hit by a bullet. I tried to deathbomb but was slightly too late. I had three bombs so if I hadn't fucked up the timing I would have been fine. That's what I meant.

>> No.10093301

>>10092671
CAVE makes the only STGs worth playing

>> No.10093319

>>10093044
The only driver I found is meant for Windows 2000 and I'm afraid to install in and fuck something up.

When I say shitty laptop I don't mean a netbook or something, I mean a decade+ old Compaq with 128 MB of ram and 4 MB video accelerator.

I hoped this was a common issue, but apparently not, the only mention I found of the same problem was on a Mac.

>> No.10093331

>>10092713
Go into the configuration program and tweak it. In particular, you may want to look into the "Clear back buffer on refresh" option. Otherwise, you should try updating your graphics drivers, or reinstalling/updating the game.

>> No.10093338

>>10093319
Try looking in the compaq website for your specific model for drivers

>> No.10093388

>>10093331
I played around with the custom settings and compatibility already.

Guess I'll look for a different version of the game for now.
>>10093338
Surprisingly they actually had a couple drivers, but no graphics driver.

>> No.10093619

>>10092671
That are worth playing? None.

>> No.10093674

>>10092676
>>10093619
Only people who have not played STGs other than Touhou would say that. There are STGs better than Touhou.

>> No.10093730

>>10093674
>There are STGs better than Touhou.
Heh, playing STGs other than Touhou only confirms that there aren't.

>> No.10093753

>>10093730
Stop showing your ignorance to everyone.

>> No.10093773

>>10093674
>There are STGs better than Touhou.
Only people who have not played Touhou would say that.

>> No.10093779

TOUHOU IS HARDER

>> No.10093801

>>10093753
Because from experience, I find other STGs more generic and dull than Touhou? It's not my ignorance, it's your shitty taste.

>> No.10093808

>>10093801
Yeah, I bet those two or three STGs you tried out were pretty terrible. Touhou4lyfe #YOLO

>> No.10093840

>>10093835
touhou da best :D

and anime

>> No.10093835

>>10093808
More like 7 or 8, and yes they were pretty terrible. XD ROFL!

>> No.10093862

Touhou fans are cancer among STGs, because they play games for characters and not gameplay, say other STG are shit because don't have little girls with hats, don't care if gameplay is better

>> No.10093871

>>10093869
I don't mean it in meme way, I mean it like normal use of word

>> No.10093869

>>10093862
>cancer
>>>/b/

>> No.10093874

>>10093862
Gameplay is just one aspect of a game, Better characters, music and story can make up for gameplay.

>> No.10093879

>>10093874
STG is about gameplay. Good characters are only bonus

>> No.10093888

>>10093883
Your opinion is stupid. Only proves point Touhou fans aren't really STG fans, they only like game for characters. Plague on STG

Touhou is pretty good game but fans terrible

>> No.10093883

>>10093879
That's your opinion. My opinion is different.

>> No.10093891

>>10093862
STGs are a "cancer" within itself, and Touhou fans rarely call other STGs shit, let alone even comment on them. What happens more often is "truSTG gaymurs" calling Touhou shit because they don't like others playing only Touhou. So you playing the oppressed one here and shifting the blame on other doesn't work.

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10093892

CAVE diehards and other touhou haters are cancer among STGs, because they play games for nerd prestige and to be an elitist show-off, they dislike immersing worlds, hate on games just because they are liked by other people and only care how HURRRRRRRDD the game is.

>> No.10093895

>>10093891
I never said Touhou is shit, I said it's pretty good

>> No.10093902

>>10093892
Touhou games dont' have immersing world, that comes from non-game materials. Proving point.

>> No.10093914

>>10093902
>Touhou games dont' have immersing world, that comes from non-game materials.
Wow, it's like you got it backwards. The world is MORE immersing this way. Typical CAVEshitter.

>> No.10093951

>>10093914
In other word you play it because its made good by out-of-game materials that make characters etc. more immersive, not gameplay. Proving point!

>> No.10093961

>>10093888
If they aren't STG fans, by your definition, how are they a plague on STGs? God forbid, people playing Touhou and not caring about other STGs.

>> No.10093966

What a stupid discussion, what do you guys think is harder btw, UFO or SA?

>> No.10093976

>>10093966
I know you know this will call forth another shitstorm.

>> No.10093978

all STGs are bad except for iky ruga

>> No.10093983

I like Touhou for the gameplay. I would still play it if all the girls were replaced with space ships.

The controls are crisp, and PCB and UFO have fun scoring systems.

>> No.10093988

>>10093961
Because they do shit like this >>10092676>>10093619>>10093730>>10093801

>> No.10094013

>>10093988
You want me to link your fellow CAVEmen to you? Here:
>>10093301
>>10093862
>>10093879
>>10093888
You started this shitstorm again. It's always a try-hard CAVE fag, every fucking time.

>> No.10094048

>>10093988
The last 3 are all my comments, by the way. Anyway, I'm not an STG fan (like you said) but I've played other STGs. I find other STGs dull compared to Touhou. I was hoping my comments wouldn't pierce through your true STG spirit to the point that you begin to think that I'm killing games I don't care about.

>> No.10094057

>>10094013
Three of those posts are mine and I said Touhou is good.

>> No.10094175

>>10094048
If you aren't STG fan then don't tell people there are no STGs worth playing.

>> No.10094182

>>10094175
So only STG fans can say there are no STGs worth playing...?

>> No.10094186

>>10094175
Step back, you're violating muh freedom.

>> No.10094188

>>10094182
You're saying, "none of these games are worth playing but I haven't played them so I have no way to know" Good job

>> No.10094193

>>10094188
Why don't you go eat shit if you like trying everything out.

>> No.10094197

>>10094193
Typical Touhou fan response

>> No.10094205

>>10094188
I've played enough of the ones most commonly recommended to conclude that they were dull. From colors to gameplay to scoring mechanics.

>> No.10094232

>>10076405
>>10077018
Thanks, I've played Dodonpachi before, but none of the sequels, and all this black label, blue label, etc. etc. was kinda confusing me.

>> No.10094223

STG is a way of life

my STG brother please don't be mean towards other STG you do not like

all STG is great

>> No.10094238

>>10094205
Why haven't you played Crimzon Clover yet?

>> No.10094249

>>10094205
I disagree! Dodonpachi, Dodonpachi Daioujou, and Ketsui are awesome.

>> No.10095214

>>10093301
Psikyo games are much better than Cave games.

>> No.10095229

Does CAVE release their games on PC? I want to give their games a try but I don't have any other system.

>> No.10095470

Could some person kindly stream?

>> No.10095482

>>10095214

rob pls go

>> No.10095484

>>10095470
Why do you keep asking for streams?
What's so fun about watching other people restarting when you could be playing and improving yourself?

>> No.10095486

>>10095484
I do play quite a bit every day, but once I get tired of playing, I'd like to watch others play.

>> No.10095670

>>10095214
I like the Sengoku series, the others don't really do anything for me though.

>> No.10095671

if a horrible player started streaming, would you watch just to make fun of him or just not bother at all

>> No.10095675
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10095675

feels good man

>> No.10095679

>>10095675
Is it just me or are her first couple of spells the hardest fucking ones to dodge out of all of them?

>> No.10095683

>>10095675
can never get cranberry trap no matter what

>> No.10095700

>>10095679
Cranberry Trap, Lävatein, Four of a Kind, and Kagome Kagome are the simplest cards though.

>> No.10095822

>>10095214
Psikyo games are garbage memorizers with a braindead simple scoring systems that they copy & pasted through nearly every one of their games.

>> No.10095849

Cave > Raizing > Grev > Takumi > Skonec > Alfa System > Ikaruga > Touhou > Psikyo > Toaplan > Konami > Taito

>> No.10095864

>>10095849
My dick > Your dick

>> No.10095880

Would someone like to stream?

>> No.10095897

>>10095849
You're favorite stg is shit

>> No.10095932

>>10095897
Say that to my face and see what happens

>> No.10095950

>>10095822
All STG are memorizers. A lot of STG do not have convoluted score systems, that does not mean they are inferior.

>> No.10095953

>>10072662

IN hard! Now with 10% more A/V quality! Or something. 100% more 4:3! Get yours quick, before it sells out.

>> No.10095967

>>10095950
It does if you like complexity.

>> No.10095979

>>10095967
You follow a predefined path when you play a CAVE game, so why does "complexity" even matter? Solid level design and cool bosses with fast patterns, that's what a real STG is all about. None of that loli bullshit.

>> No.10095982

>>10095932
Where do u live fgt?

>> No.10095984

>>10095849
Toaplan > Raizing

>>10095822
Sengoku Cannon actually has scoring system and ironically gets hate from Psikyo fags

>> No.10096012

>>10095979
Because CAVE games have a ton of potential paths with varying degrees of risk/reward. Scoring well is a lot more difficult because it requires you to take many different things into consideration while being able to execute moves that require precise timing.

In short, it's about depth. People are still playing CAVE games that are 10+ years old because they still haven't been maxed out.

>> No.10096063

>>10095849
shit > your taste

>> No.10096072

>>10095979
>None of that loli bullshit.
Aesthetics make no difference whatsoever, if the game has good patterns, scoring & gameplay it doesn't matter whether it's homolust mecha shit or pedo loli shit.

>>10096012
People are still playing Psikyo games because they haven't been maxed out.

>> No.10096074

>>10095675
>Misses: 5

How the hell?
I thought you can only get 4 extra lives in EoSD Extra.

>>10095700
But Four of a Kind is pretty difficult.

>> No.10096082

There's no difference between level and boss portion. They are just another part of the game that I must beat.

>> No.10096112

>>10096072
>homolust mecha shit
Are there any STGs that are good and are like that?

>> No.10096204

>>10096074
EoSD counts deathbombing as misses.

>> No.10096216

>>10096204
My whole life has been a lie.

>> No.10096217

>>10096072
When was the last time somebody set a world record in a Psikyo game?

>> No.10096220

>>10096063
Feel free to post your rankings so we can have laugh mate.

>> No.10096265 [DELETED] 

>>10096217
Serious question, I'm not good with the shmup but is it even possible to play for score? There's so much randomness and variable ranking in their games.

>> No.10096282

>>10096204
Are you serious?
Holy shit this >>10096216

>> No.10096288

>>10096220
Here you go:

Touhou >>>>>>>> shit > other STGs

>> No.10096344

>>10096282
Yes. Well, the result screen counts deathbombing as misses. Not that it'd affect anything else, NM runs probably still mean No-Death runs, whether you deathbombed or not.

>> No.10096358

>>10096344
But NM usually means NB too.

>> No.10096361

>>10096358
Uh, no.

>> No.10096464

>>10096217
Sengoku Blade had 2 new world records in the latest Arcadia
SYO / Miko / 2,305,600 / '12.12.A
J.G.K-ALL(副) / Katana / 2,439,300 / '12.12.A
it also had one in the previous months issue as did Strikers 1945 II
M.T / KI84 Hayate / 3,417,400 / '12.11.A

>> No.10096506

>>10096464
I see. Strikers looks fun. Sengoku looks slow and boring, but maybe it's just the videos I've seen.

>> No.10096591

>>10092977

>Yuyuko's reflowering shit because I fucked up on a deathbomb. About broke something.
>fucked up on a deathbomb

lol

Do you cry about clip deaths too?

>> No.10096602 [DELETED] 

Hey STG experts, what are good japanese sites to use for old arcade games? How else do you find out about your scoring, mechanics, etc besides system11.org and from watching super plays on youtube? Pls respond.

>> No.10096610

Hey STG experts, what are good japanese sites for information on old arcade games? How else do you find out about scoring mechanics besides system11.org and from watching super plays on youtube? Pls respond.

>> No.10096616

>>10096610
Why would you want to play anything other then touhou anyway?

>> No.10096627

>>10096616
Guess I should better ask at /vg/. Sorry to tickle your autism /jp/-kun.

>> No.10096634

>>10096616
Because Touhou is a very average STG.

>> No.10096666

>>10096591
Two people have pointed out the "fucked up on a deathbomb" part of my post. What exactly is the issue here? I already explained what I meant.

>> No.10096682

>>10095470
>>10095880
I can it in about an hour, unless someone else wants to. It would probably be a very long one.

>> No.10096704

>>10096666
Nice satanic trips, seriously though I'm not good with the shmup but you're not supposed to count on a deathbomb when dodging unless you're playing MoF for score and planned ahead. You simply bombed too late.

>>10096682
I'd like to watch that, please.

>> No.10096713

>>10096704
>You simply bombed too late.

Yes, that's what I meant. I already explained it. I got hit and tried to deathbomb but I was slightly too late, hence I fucked up deathbombing.

>> No.10096725

>>10096627
Grrr!

>> No.10096733

>>10096713
I understood.
My point is, don't count on a deathbomb to always work like you would count on a parry when playing a fighting game. Always bomb earlier.

>> No.10096742

>>10096666
You can't really call getting hit, "fucking up on a deathbomb", because deathbombs aren't usually planned.
Unless you were just waiting to get hit so you could deathbomb, which isn't very smart anyway. You should've just bombed earlier.

>> No.10096788

>>10096682
I'd like to watch you doing "it" ;);););)

>> No.10096803

>>10096788
lewd

>> No.10096921

>>10096682
you're not really gonna stream are you?
ageru

>> No.10096951 [DELETED] 

>>10096921
I didn't realize that ElDestructoe is streaming. I'll do it afterwards.

>> No.10097251

Streaming: http://www.twitch.tv/rizth

>> No.10097649

>>10095950
>All STG are memorizers.
all require memo for scoring, sure, but some are practically devoid of randomness. hence "memorizers"

>> No.10098566

>>10097251
That was an interesting stream. Losing that MarisaB LNBNV run on Byakuren was disappointing. I have a lot of free time coming my way, so I will be playing a lot.

>> No.10098676

>>10097649
I thought calling a game a memorizer meant it was full of cheap shots. That is, games with a bunch of patterns that are impossible to dodge on reaction - you have to have the counters memorized beforehand to stand a chance.

>> No.10098705

>>10098676
One of the designers at CAVE basically said those games are shit too. Something about not respecting the player by putting in attacks that are essentially guaranteed to kill you the first time you see it.

>> No.10098727

>>10092744
>Psikyo
The company that single-handedly tarnished the arcades by making quarter-munching cheese-fests?

>> No.10098841

pls stop bullying psikyo

>> No.10098950

>>10096627
Now if only the other truSTG fans and CAVEmen could get the message as easily as you did and leave.

>> No.10098955

>>10098950
At least some of you will admit you are casual STG "fans"

>> No.10099033

>>10098955
>casual
Actually no. I'm not a fan of them at all.

>> No.10099145

K, so I cleared all the Windows Lunatics. What should I consider next, /jp/? I was considering Ten Desires No Bomb No Trance but IDK if that'll work what with deathtrancing.

>> No.10099151

>>10099145
No manual trance works.

>> No.10099160

>>10099033
Why are you such a disgusting faggot?

>> No.10099455

>>10098950
Please leave. /jp/ had perfectly civil non-touhou shmup threads in the years before /vg/ was created.

>> No.10100443

>>10099145
A no death/trance run with bomb usage is way more impressive than a run with death trancing. Or better yet, perfect it.

>> No.10100946

Would someone like to stream?

>> No.10100976

in which games is memorizing patterns the least importaint? like just having raw twitch skills

>> No.10100981

>>10100976
TD. Because you don't need to dodge any patterns.

>> No.10100983

>>10100981
Alternate answers: MoF and SA, for the same reason.

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Fuck.

>> No.10101458

>>10101404
>easy

>> No.10101520

>>10101458
Beat the score while you're at it, too.

>> No.10101658

>>10101520
That still doesn't change the fact that it's on Easy.

>> No.10101689

>>10101658
It does. In scoring the difficulty doesn't matter. There's no limit to a score, therefore there's no limit to how skilled you can get in it.

>> No.10101722

>>10101689
So what you're saying is, scoring on Easy and Lunatic is the same in terms of difficulty?

>> No.10101737

>>10101722
Yes. It's just the end results that differ, assuming you can clear the game every time on both difficulties.

>> No.10101739

>>10101722
Lunatic is more difficult if you're comparing maximum potentials. However, a WR score in Easy is more difficult than a Lunatic score up to a certain point.

>> No.10101768

>>10076405
>black label
>harder

stay secondary, /jp/
black labels are always easier

>> No.10101894

>>10101768
not in all cases

>> No.10102191

>>10101966
If you read the thread you'd know fuck-knuckle.

>> No.10102214

>>10076405
Bee Storm isn't part of the series and has nothing to with CAVE.
also DOJ was never called DDP3.

>> No.10102238

>>10102191
>fuck-knuckle
lulz

>> No.10102343

>>10102191
epic diss bro but you should imply he's not a fuck-knuckle with the quote function that would be the true path of a bro-hou

>> No.10102508

Someone please stream already.

>> No.10102610

>>10101739
>>10101689
>>10101737
No. Don't even compare "scoring" on Easy to scoring on Lunatic. One is something that any limp wristed scrub can do well with after a couple hours of practice. The other takes thousands of hours of practice, which only good players will put the effort in. And that's how it often goes anyway, the players that are too lazy to score on a higher difficulty go for score on a lower difficulty. Yes, getting a WR on Easy may be harder than getting one on Lunatic solely because more people play on Easy and thus have perfected it more (although it really doesn't look like it), but skill wise, Lunatic is more demanding and challenging than Easy. Calling them equal is completely retarded, especially in a game like IN.

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>>10102610

>> No.10102670

>>10072662

IN on hard, business as usual! No scoring!

>> No.10102811

>>10102610
>One is something that any limp wristed scrub can do well with after a couple hours of practice.
This is false, I've tried scoring in both Easy and Lunatic. I put no more than couple of hours in Easy mode, and the result is unsurprisingly very disappointing. While in Lunatic, I put about hundreds of hours. It was somewhat less shitty than the Easy mode scoring.

>The other takes thousands of hours of practice, which only good players will put the effort in.
Good players play in Easy mode too.

>Yes, getting a WR on Easy may be harder than getting one on Lunatic solely because more people play on Easy and thus have perfected it more (although it really doesn't look like it) but skill wise, Lunatic is more demanding and challenging than Easy.
If it's harder to get WR in Easy, then it's because the skill requirement to beat the score is much higher. Unless you're talking about RNG bullshit, which I don't think it plays more role than avoiding mistakes in any Easy or Lunatic scoring.

>> No.10102828

It's harder on easy because it's too slow. It's very difficult to stay concentrated the whole run.

>> No.10103136

>>10102828
you mean more boring

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so close to 1ccing this

>> No.10103162

Easy is harder than Lunatic. You heard it here first!

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>>10103136
If you are experiencing boredom you need to improve your skills further.

>> No.10103245

>>10103202
Who else Anxiety here?

>> No.10103256

>>10103146
kamige

>> No.10103291

>>10103202
Well, I go between anxiety and arousal quite easily, so I don't think this graph is correct

>> No.10103298

>>10103202

What a shitty chart, it would be better as a 3*3 with nine states and a new one in the middle.
Right now it implies that if you are precisely in the centre with mid-challenge level and mid-skill level that you can instantly change to any of the 8 states with an infinitesimal change to skill, challenge, or both.
Get better charts, nerdlord.

>> No.10103305

>>10103298

Oh, and while I'm at it: it should have a shifting colour gradient rather than finite borders.

>> No.10103713

>>10103202
>>10103245
I sit pretty much in permanent anxiety even if I'm doing really well. I finally beat PCB on hard and I keep having nightmares where I mess up and lose. I don't know what to do.

>> No.10104083

>>10103202
Where exactly does rage fit in on that chart?

>> No.10104772

>>10104083
gaming related rage is usually unrelated to challenge and skill level, and probably related to your feelings of inadequacy.

>> No.10105049

>>10104772
However, is it reasonable to say that it's those feelings that help push someone to achieving a higher skill?

>> No.10105067

>>10105049
no idea, I made that shit up

>> No.10106581 [DELETED] 

Which streamer wud u fuk?

Also, any streams?

>> No.10107036

>>10106581
I'd like to watch a stream.

>> No.10107102

>>10103245
I almost defeated Reisen on lunatic the other day, but I ran into a bullet with a full set of bombs.

>> No.10107109

>>10103298
I think i'm in the middle right now. I have experienced most of those states recently. I play 3-4 games everyday with 30 minutes for each session.

Anxiety in SA Extra. Still have hard time with Koishi.
Worry in GFW Normal. GFW is not my cup of tea.
Apathy in IN Hard.
Boredom in PoFV Normal.
Arousal in UFO Extra..
Control in MoF Normal scoring.
Flow in PCB Lunatic.

>> No.10107194

>>10107109
>Arousal in UFO Extra..
>Kogasa, Nue
I know what you mean anon

>> No.10107235

>>10103245
Permanent anxiety here

>> No.10107629

>>10072662

Business as usual.

>> No.10109666 [DELETED] 

le upvote

>> No.10109739

>>10107109
>Anxiety in SA
Isn't this the normal state?

>> No.10110697

OK I decided to go with TD LNBNT. Made it to Tao Taidou but can't for the life of me replicate that. Seiga, ugh.

>> No.10111010
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I just beat EoSD for first time on normal. Silly me didn't knew I could get more than 2 continues.

>> No.10111043

>>10111010
Congratulations! Now try going for a clear without using continues.

>> No.10111192

>>10111010
Please refrain from posting such filth.

>> No.10111243

>>10111010
At least clear it normally.
It still won't be a reason to post here but at least it won't look like it was played by someone who's mentally challenged.

>> No.10111283

>>10111010
Good job. I like your binary post number.

>> No.10111292

>>10111010
>beating
>using continues

lol....

>> No.10111323

>>10111010
Why would you even post this here?
Is this supposed to be some``ironic'' trolling or something?

>> No.10111334

>>10111010
So you used 62 bombs and yet you still got hit 22 times?

Congrats man.

>> No.10111343

ITT people with a couple Normal 1ccs jump on the rare opportunity to shit on people that are worse than them.

>> No.10111388

>>10111343
Excuse me?

I can 1cc on Hard AND I've beaten all of the Extra stages.

Come at me bro.

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>>10111010
>62 bombs

>> No.10111615

do you guys only care about scoring and such? I just play those games on lunatic and try to beat them without abusing bombs

>> No.10111631
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10111631

>doing great until patchy who relentlessly rapes me
>remi last card 3/4 way through
>oh god I've almost perfected it
>start thinking and lose my last 2 lives

>> No.10111658

>>10111615
I prefer seeing high numbers but I can also appreciate no bomb/no gimmick runs, too. Though personally, I've been playing for score ever since I started playing these games a few years ago. But lately I've been loosing interest in it because all it has been so far is frustration after frustration with little progress. All this has just been turning me off from playing the games at all. Why can't I have talent and enjoy things like the rest of the good scorerunners on /jp/ and MotK? ;_;

>> No.10111816

>>10111658
I know that feel. ;_;
The only thing that we can do is to force ourselves to like the process.

>> No.10111824

Someone make a new thread.

>> No.10111834

>>10111658
As one of the scorerunners from both sides, I've noticed that it hardly is talent what gets people as high as they might be. Grind for countless hours is what makes people seem good.

>> No.10112212

>>10111824
New thread: >>10112211

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