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LN / Light Novel General / ラノベスレ Anonymous Sat Sep 2 03:48:54 2023 No.44495594 [Reply] [Original]

This thread is for anything related to the discussion of Japanese light novels, WN / Web Novels included.
Learning Japanese to avoid mistakes and subtext trimming by translations and MTL is highly recommended.

>Finding light novels info:
https://pastebin.com/M5xQxuHm

>Additional resources:
https://lnwncentral.wordpress.com/
https://boroboro.neocities.org/listfullepub.html
>Recommended readers:
Android, Libera https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.foobnix.pro.pdf.reader/
PC epub reader: https://calibre-ebook.com/
https://reader.ttsu.app/
>WN to e-book downloader:
https://github.com/whiteleaf7/narou

>Main fan TL dump:
https://nyaa.si/view/1202979
>Official translations:
v20.0: https://nyaa.si/view/1680465
v20.1: https://nyaa.si/view/1690883
v20.2: https://nyaa.si/view/1703569

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Anonymous Sat Sep 2 04:50:35 2023 No.44495900

https://novel18.syosetu.com/n4043fu/
>10歳から10年間の絶対服従性奴隷契約を結ばされた美少女が、青春を失ってしまう話
>A story about a beautiful girl who loses her youth after signing a 10-year absolute obedience slave contract from the age of 10.
Man makes 10 year old loli living in his apartment complex his slave. Real time slave training story. Started December 2019, we are almost on year 4 out of 10. She's 14 now. Quite detailed. Story is told from both their perspectives. Went through all of covid and everything.
How time flies. I didnt even realize how far we've come till recently. And still have like 2/3rds to go.
Is this what it is like to have a daughter? I can't believe she'll be 20 at the end of this.
When I first started, around now is when I predicted the author would get bored and start to slow down. Wonder if he'll really make it 10 years.

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 06:40:43 2023 No.44496659

>>44494841
what's with shadow in particular that makes people learn japanese for it? no other series comes close to the exact same kind of "i learned jp for it" autism
not even dendro actually, it seems for that one people already know japanese, same for any other really autistic series like mahouka or older 10s and 00s stuff
and there's also those that just read in english for some reason, maybe because they don't know better, but shadow in particular is what convinces people into making the jump to learning

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 06:44:50 2023 No.44496706 >>44496659 you're just seeing recency bias

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 06:52:25 2023 No.44496784

>>44496706
that could be argued, but there's a lot of recent popular stuff
both mishima series (evil lord and mob), the autism trio of dendro-spellblades-TRPG, the retro throwback stuff like spellblade academy with the shota and oneesans, komarin, others like space mercenary and notorious talker, just off the top of my head, can't say they are THE popular thing but they definitively get brought up often
then why of all of those series that often have people talk with decent emotional attachment to them, kagejitsu is the one most often causing people to decide "this is it, i had enough, i will learn japanese"?

Anonymous Sat Sep 2 07:13:49 2023 No.44496993

how do I stop always hating main heroines? It is seriously detrimental to my enjoyment but I can't help it.
I don't hate them from the start, the feeling grows gradually with each volume as the "main heroine quota" becomes annoying and it becomes clear that any significant moments with other heroines must be immediately one-upped or nullified by a moment with the MH.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 16:35:50 2023 No.44501966 File: 198 KB, 600x600, [5巻] 陰の実力者になりたくて！ 05.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] kino

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 20:34:41 2023 No.44504107 >>44496993 in which one did that happen to you? because that happens the most on faux harem ones where it's actually a monofag story with a bunch of orbiters

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 21:00:36 2023 No.44504339 Pick up any good WNs lately?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 21:01:43 2023 No.44504347 >>44504339 I only read WNs or LNs about human men and their elf wives.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 21:07:58 2023 No.44504401 >>44504339 read モブ高生の俺でも冒険者になればリア充になれますか? recently, it's all right it's entertaining in the same way a train crash is entertaining, not because the author is shit (he's average), but because the plot went down that sort of road

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 2 23:32:03 2023 No.44505441 File: 54 KB, 225x324, 274739.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] God I can't wait until I can read nihongo

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 00:44:52 2023 No.44505952 >>44505441 Redpill me on senki. What's the appeal?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 01:04:32 2023 No.44506054 >>44505952 War is cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 03:04:21 2023 No.44506780 >>44506054 war bad

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 03:07:41 2023 No.44506800 >>44506780 >>44506054 The duality of man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 03:10:23 2023 No.44506812 It's cool to be bad

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 03:19:51 2023 No.44506864 File: 153 KB, 1920x1080, 1664978058474974.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 陰の実力 cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 12:00:48 2023 No.44510242 War ok.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 12:02:59 2023 No.44510272 File: 107 KB, 681x1000, file.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >dude WAR lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 12:10:30 2023 No.44510358 You know the senki is the REAL DEAL when the author makes autistic maps for the same battle at different times of the day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 12:26:28 2023 No.44510524 so senki is like reading Caesar's The Gallic Wars but anime?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 20:52:51 2023 No.44514516 What do? After learning, reading small bit of jap for 1,5 year. I am now scared of picking up my first ln to read, scared of having to constantly open up the dictionary, and scared of the possibility that I cant recall already learned words

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 21:27:39 2023 No.44514737 >>44514516 read something that's compelling enough to make you want to look stuff up but not so compelling that you would mind having the pacing broken up by constantly looking up stuff

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 22:16:43 2023 No.44515075 >>44514516 how have you been learning for a year and half and still sound like someone that just started and never tried to read in japanese before

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 22:57:50 2023 No.44515315 File: 208 KB, 266x375, 20th_den_moku.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Chapter 6 and it keeps getting worse, though I really liked the bit about Noriko and Seiroku's past.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 3 23:04:13 2023 No.44515347 >>44510358 If you think about it senki ends up being the vehicle for like 20 different types of autism. Yes, some are almost universal like magic systems, and some like the politics drama isn't inherent to all senki, but the potential is there.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 02:32:59 2023 No.44516368
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>>44515075
>>44514737
Anki's backlog problem.
When I first started reading, I looked up everything I dont understand while continuously reading stuffs up.
The last time i tried reading mynoghra, there were so many new words that I have to look up almost every single sentence to understand.
I've been mining anki since 2000, and it is still not fucking enough

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 02:37:39 2023 No.44516382

>>44516368
>He fell for the anki grind meme.
Why?
>The last time i tried reading mynoghra, there were so many new words that I have to look up almost every single sentence to understand.
Yeah that's normal.
>I've been mining anki since 2000, and it is still not fucking enough
Why the fuck? All you need to start up is the joyo kanji up to second grade if you're in a hurry, the full set if you feel like it.
LNs use their own autistic set of vocab past the joyo kanji that you will rarely see outside otaku media, and that depends on the LN or game too so no point in preemptively studying everything, just learn the words as you read them.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 02:52:23 2023 No.44516450

>>44516368
at some point you can't stay in the simulations (anki grind) anymore and the only way to progress is to get out into the field and exercise yourself in the real world (novels). don't sweat it if you are slow to begin with, that's part of the process.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 03:40:55 2023 No.44516701 >>44516368 >I've been mining anki since 2000 this shit is what proves the mining meme is a psyop to stop people from learning japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 04:11:59 2023 No.44516893 >>44516382 >>44516450 >>44516701 No, you guys misunderstood. "Mining" here means I read stuffs => I find new words => I add it in Anki Is this not what mining is?

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 04:16:30 2023 No.44516913

>>44516893
i know what it is, but i still think it's a meme
if you see a word you don't know you look it up, if you see it again and forgot, you look it up again, if you don't have to look it up again then it's common enough to not be an issue
anki grinding is the spaced repetition shit, but by reading this happens naturally on it's own, making anki grinding completely redundant and a waste of your time past the basic everyday/joyo kanji

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 04:25:57 2023 No.44516964 >>44516913 I see, that means reading equal anki. There is only a little left so after i finish my backlog, i will start focusing on reading more.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 04:36:43 2023 No.44517026

>>44516893
>>44516964
From my experience what can also help you improve is also practice through audio rather than just reading, that helps reinforce what you learn through more than just mental images.
Basically, try to watch anime, play voiced games and VNs, or simply listen to music.
Obviously doing the full course by also speaking and writing by hand would be even better, but that's probably not for everyone.
But everyone can listen to japanese.
Listen to audiobooks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 05:24:11 2023 No.44517294 >>44517026 Thanks

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 09:04:21 2023 No.44518861

>>44516893
>>44516368
Idk I just now passed a year and I'm reading LNs pretty comfortably, maybe you're not spending enough hours reading and listening and you're mining too finely? If you mine every single word you don't know that's a huge waste of time imo, I only mined the words I couldn't read to pick up readings asap while the words I could read but didn't understand I simply look up every time I encounter them. Now that I come across new readings much more rarely, I've started mining words that I can already read if I think I might want to have it in my deck as a reminder, basically if I think I might fail to recognize the word when listening. Speaking of which, I listen every day since the beginning and listening makes you better at reading so make sure you're doing that. I'm like 99% sure your problem is less so your methods than just raw hours spent immersing, but mining every single word and having extra long anki sessions might be part of that problem. Also I was a neet for my first few months with the language so I got insane hours in during that time for reference

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 16:05:44 2023 No.44523473 >>44518861 That's true, I'll give audiobook a try

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 17:38:19 2023 No.44524254 >>44515315 Man is it really that bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 17:43:54 2023 No.44524309 >>44524254 Assuming it's not just one schizo who keeps spamming about how much he hates it then I've yet to see anyone here say anything good about this one

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:34:30 2023 No.44525794 >>44524309 everyone gets called a schizo these days the word lost all meaning

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:50:23 2023 No.44525938 Not sure I should admit this but I've started reading SAO and I'm... enjoying it. It's not written well, but it's compelling for some reason. Hopefully it stays entertaining.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 20:57:22 2023 No.44525989 >>44525938 did you read it in english or japanese?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:00:14 2023 No.44526006 >>44525938 The only people I've met who have strong negative opinions about SAO are bandwagoning neo-weebs who got that opinion from YouTubers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:00:20 2023 No.44526007 File: 67 KB, 198x382, 1631751926817.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How the FUCK do I learn Japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:03:55 2023 No.44526028 >>44526007 very carefully

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:05:30 2023 No.44526039 >>44525989 English, first novel only so far. I could try Japanese but progress will be very slow

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:10:14 2023 No.44526068

>>44525938
Blogpost below:
SAO is genuinely good. And the second book are some solid short stories set in the world.
It's when Kirito starts playing other games and is constantly surrounded by a harem instead of just having Asuna as his gf that the story stays past its welcome imo. But clearly there's an audience.
My real complaint about SAO, which isn't even SAO's fault, is that now the light novel medium is just oversaturated with isekai and video game fantasy. Which aren't even bad genres, (even Harry Potter is an isekai) but it makes it harder for the other genres to succeed. I don't even know if Haruhi Suzumiya could've found an audience had it released in the modern era.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:21:09 2023 No.44526144

>>44526039
yeah i'm inclined to think a lot if not most of your problems with the writing are due to the translation, even ones you wouldn't expect like 86 have this problem
it may be even worse for SAO which is not only TL by shitpress, it also had the fame of being "that one shit anymay" thanks to the hate bandwagon so they may have put even less effort than usual

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:29:38 2023 No.44526216

>>44526068
>is that now the light novel medium is just oversaturated with isekai and video game fantasy
The irony of this complaint is always the ones that use it don't really know the medium that well.
>but it makes it harder for the other genres to succeed.
Let's stop pretending this is a zero sum game somehow and go to the real point.
Which genre are you mad is basically dead? Mecha?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:33:40 2023 No.44526245 >>44526068 bro isekai as a trend has been old news for years, and VRMMO stuff never really caught on outside of a small group of autistic people

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:36:51 2023 No.44526275

>>44526144
>so they may have put even less effort than usual
>for-profit company half-assing their HUGE ultra popular cash cow series which laid so many fucking golden eggs that they broke pattern and actually licensed spinoff series
contrary to your schizoid delusions, e-celebs do not rule the world

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:38:40 2023 No.44526294
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>>44526275
>>for-profit company half-assing their HUGE ultra popular cash cow series which laid so many fucking golden eggs that they broke pattern and actually licensed spinoff series
Absolutely unheard of

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:40:33 2023 No.44526312 >>44526144 >even ones you wouldn't expect like 86 have this problem Asato's prose is really, really nice sometimes. It would feel just dirty trying to translate it even if you were a mythical good translator.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:44:11 2023 No.44526354 >>44526275 >Ecelebs out of nowhere. >Unironically defending shitpress. >Calling anyone else schizo. Schizo and schizoid aren't the same thing by the way.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:50:10 2023 No.44526397

>>44526354
the only people who trash SAO as that one shit anymay are mothers basement type youtubers and their dicksucking followers, both the true casuals and the actual fans who propelled it to moneyprinting status are fine with it or don't care that much for it
there is absolutely zero chance that a loud posse of youtube hipsters had any influence whatsoever on the TL quality
>schizoid
I know what I wrote

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 21:52:26 2023 No.44526414

>>44526294
also fallout
also assassins creed and honestly most of the yearly AAA games
even ones that aren't yearly like GTA to be honest
even within japan you have SMT, EO, sonic, phantasy star, that one time DMC really shat the bed, etc
even within just "otaku culture" there's most anime adaptations that go to shit by season 2, if they ever get one at all, or hell most adaptations in the first place like what happened to chainsaw man or happens to most LN anime AND manga adaptations, or how CSM itself degraded by part 2
even just within LNs you have overlord, reincarnated as a slime, hell mode, etc, all of which started out strong then slowly degraded to nothing, right now not even who used to be the biggest fans of overlord are defending it's current state anymore
even just within translations you have shitseas censoring both MT and COTE thinking they could get away with it, because they have gotten away with it with any other series
even just within shitpress you have the entire spice and wolf fiasco which should have clued you in they don't give a shit and more recently how they treat kagejitsu despite that series being treated by kadokawa as their new cash cow

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:02:08 2023 No.44526484

>>44526397
Downplaying the impact online influencers have is ridiculous when it's the only real news outlet and review outlet most casuals have.
Oh and they also have enough pull to join VA work these days, and not on literal who stuff but on high profile localizations like genshin impact.
It is also hard to deny the impact abridged parodied trying to "fix" the source material have had on English speaking communities when most people prefer those over the original and that style of flippant taking the piss has trickled down to official dubs and to official translations.
Not like it being already a huge issue on games didn't help, just look at the absolute state of trails translations and the guy that died from water enhancers if you want to know.
Limit the scope to just SAO itself and you still have hundreds of people that treat it like a guilty pleasure instead of just thinking it's good exactly thanks to over a decade of propaganda calling it shit because some youtuber snob did it first.
Even the very post that kickstarted this discussion has that exact tone. >>44525938

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:11:21 2023 No.44526554 >>44526484 Honestly 4chan was mocking SAO as gary stu rubbish years before Youtubers ever were and only reversed course once that opinion picked up steam among some redditors.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:15:30 2023 No.44526589

>>44526397
if ecelebs aren't a problem how come 99% of EOPs and localizers have the exact same opinions as them?
if this assumption isn't true how come the NPC script to try counter it is "b-b-but how would you know without watching them!?" like that's some sort of gotcha? know your enemy bitch

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:20:52 2023 No.44526635

>>44526589
ecelebs cultivate clicks by telling a certain subset of overly-engaged audiences what they want to hear. 99% of eops and localizers never even heard of them, that's just your imaginary scarecrow.
>know your enemy
or you could try being a JOP and not having to even acknowledge that they exist.
>>44526554
let's be honest not even plebbit openly shits on sao anymore, the alicization anime threads were nothing but fellation, hating sao is an artifact of the late 2010s that's gone out of fashion long ago.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:24:30 2023 No.44526659 >>44526635 >JOP shit like this is how you know someone is a tourist with no arguments outside of "no u"s and not even caring to understand the insults go back from whatever shithole you came from faggot

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:26:19 2023 No.44526676
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>>44526635
>Just ignore them bro :)
>Just let them get enough power to start demanding changes to the original media because of "western sensibilities" bro :)
>Just let it happen, don't resist bro :)
How about you kill yourself?

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:28:44 2023 No.44526695

>>44526659
they were called japanese-only patricians and english-only pheasants since around when moot first forced /a/, /jp/ and /v/ to all live in the same general for translated VNs, idk what they're called these days.
>>44526676
how about you talk about light novels instead of /v/shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:29:50 2023 No.44526701 >>44526635 >>44526695 >brings up ecelebs himself >complains after he gets called out as a tourist your desperate defending of ecelebs and shitpress is comical

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:32:43 2023 No.44526720 >>44526701 ecelebs are the only people among whom the hate bandwagon even fucking matters, >>44526006 pointed this out too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:35:50 2023 No.44526754 >>44526720 so how you justify every translation even in LNs becoming an official abridged parody if they supposedly don't matter?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:42:54 2023 No.44526827 >>44526695 Why do casuals think otaku media is separated by mediums? It happens all the time, especially in anime where people love to act like the adaptation crew is writing the plot and pretend there's no source material. It's just so weird.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:43:35 2023 No.44526833

>>44526414
>within shitpress you have the entire spice and wolf fiasco which should have clued you in they don't give a shit
this isn't really the best example, you have to look at the context of the time, YP was releasing S&W and Haruhi right after a whole bunch of companies like Viz and shitseas and Tokyopop had lost money on LNs like Shana and Boogiepop and FMP selling like garbage and dropped them, so they were desperately fishing for ways to make S&W profitable. This was peak otakushit bubble era in the wake of the collapse of Geneon. And of course after releasing just one volume with the garbage cover they realized this wasn't working and switched back to just focusing on the otaku market. And with both S&W and Haruhi they got decent translators on them, the Haruhi TL was even contracted to the a.f.k. fansub translator at first. But I would argue that it wasn't until SAO that the light novel market really broke open in the West.

Frankly if you want examples of shitpress not giving a shit, the absolutely horrendous jobs done with early NGNL and Danmachi are much better cases.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:45:11 2023 No.44526845

>>44526827
it's not a matter of casuals and mediums, the localization companies simply aren't working closely with LN authors during the creation process for a simultaneous worldwide release the same way that nintendo treehouse is integrated with other branches of Nintendo. Ergo it's fucking irrelevant

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:46:57 2023 No.44526865 >>44526845 wrong, JNC does that now you fucking PWNED yourself, you lost the argument better luck next time

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:51:47 2023 No.44526902

>>44526865
jewnovel aren't a part of drecom or the editorial team, they just get the finished script to translate the same as their other books. the translator has talked about how new volumes basically ambush him and then eat up an entire month. I'll start worrying when shitpress actually puts someone in the editing team in dengeki bunko

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 22:57:49 2023 No.44526949

>>44526833
I guess part of the problem is trying to bet on any of these series becoming as big as say, capeshit currently is now.
And in the west that's simply not going to happen, that just not how the western sphere works.
And yes, they are to an extent, still holding to the dream of some series becoming a massive media empire, the past decade of trying to neuter adaptations and heavily marketing series that don't offend western sensibilities wouldn't be a thing otherwise, they never tried to grow a niche market of autists that would buy your stuff come hail or firestorms, they are gentrifying it because they want money and they want it now.
But at the same time not sure trying to grow out that niche market would have worked either, translations could be literally perfect and magically convey all the nuance, but they will always suffer from time delays from the translation process, simultaneous releases of the JP and EN versions of novels is just not going to happen with the fast release cycle pipeline LNs have.
And when the fanbase is autists, they are far more likely to just learn japanese and buy from the original publisher than wait, amazon opened those floodgates and now buying the raws is much easier than it was a decade ago.

Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:27:00 2023 No.44527146

>>44526068
>My real complaint about SAO, which isn't even SAO's fault, is that now the light novel medium is just oversaturated with isekai and video game fantasy. Which aren't even bad genres, (even Harry Potter is an isekai) but it makes it harder for the other genres to succeed.
Why people still believe his? Feels like everything isekai with more than 6 volumes already got adapted, anime already moved back to what it was on the early 10s with RAI HUWAITO, liar liar and spellblades, with clingy onesans on shota demon lord, komarin and FINALLY the mythical adaptation prophecies foretold with ishura.
>(even Harry Potter is an isekai)
This belief is very telling lmao.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:36:58 2023 No.44527211 >>44527146 i know there's still an iceberg of isekaishit that's not being adapted because i see them every monthly publisher update

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 4 23:47:23 2023 No.44527306 >>44527211 Most of those are not isekai. I know western communities have a weird obsession with calling everything isekai or native isekai so they can shit on everything with even less effort than usual, but that's not how things work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 01:00:34 2023 No.44527831 >>44526007 you can't you can memorize enough moon runes to be able to fumble through middle school literature but you truly can't learn the language without living there for a long time

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 02:02:44 2023 No.44528316

>>44526007
Sorta-memorize your kana, don't bother getting it down to perfection, that will come with practice.
Go to the new neko website https://gohoneko.neocities.org/ and whip out your grammar guide of choice.
If you're kind of a brainlet, use the 今日 IMABI one.
For a normal brain, use the 昨日 Sakubi one.
If you're an autist you wouldn't be asking this and will cross reference fucking everything anyway.
Don't use the tae kim one because it dumbs down too much to the point of teaching wrong shit, it's not completely unusable at least, it's better than any modern trannylation, but the imabi one is just as simple but much more accurate, just longer, but you aren't meant to consoom grammar guides in one sitting anyway, they are basically textbooks, not youtube videos.
Now regardless of what grammar guides you use, go to cure dolly for more general lessons, and also some grammar help.
While you do this if you want to anki grind like a faget then after you learn the kana do the joyo kanji list up to 2nd grade if you want to read NOW, and up to 4th grade for more rounded up learning, don't do the rest of the joyo kanji until you actually start reading, it's way too much info without context and your brain will just forget about it.
Any extra vocab will come naturally on a per-case basis depending on what you read or play, non-joyo kanji you would see on a romcom modern earth VN is much different from what you would see on the JP version of a souls game for example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 04:52:52 2023 No.44529231 >otosekai vol 3 That second half was extremely entertaining to read

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 06:54:48 2023 No.44529775 >>44529231 otome mob?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 07:47:34 2023 No.44530024 >>44529775 Yeah. What's the correct abbreviation used around here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 07:52:49 2023 No.44530056 >>44530024 i don't even think your abbreviation is used in japan, i see "mobuseka" far more often

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 08:09:35 2023 No.44530129 >>44530056 Well, I didn't say that was used in japan. Just made something up on the spot hoping someone would correct me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 12:28:41 2023 No.44532097 >>44529231 Otome mob is kino, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 12:43:43 2023 No.44532245 >>44510358 been enjoying 亡びの国の征服者 recently and the author not only made multiple maps for the same battle but also fake academic references and historian controversies https://ncode.syosetu.com/n5677cl/229/

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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:39:21 2023 No.44534565 >>44524309 I'm the one who keeps commenting about the chapters after I finish them but every time I get a reply it's saying it's terrible. >>44524254 Not completely but the bad parts are REALLY bad, much more than how good the good parts are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 16:56:22 2023 No.44534656 >>44532097 Yeah, on vol 5 now and it's fun. Marie somehow became the most entertaining character to read lol

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:43:29 2023 No.44535216
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>>44533112
Nice, beautiful art by Taiki as always. You can actually see Candy's massive eg--bulge in this one heh. I'm willing to bet he's 100% a fatfuck neckbeard in irl Dendro, probably a VTuber/Idolfag too. The general coloring/tone definitely references picrel at least.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 18:58:32 2023 No.44535314 Haven't paid attention to the ranobe landscape in a while, are there any particularly strong new releases or talented authors you'd recommend? I'd prefer something that's just well written rather than being based around a funny concept or gimmick.

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:06:52 2023 No.44535371

>>44535216
The very part of Dendro that this volume will adapt states that Candy actually believes he's some god's reincarnation. While that doesn't preclude him from also being a lardass neckbeard idolfag, it wouldn't make him seem that much more deranged than he already does.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:08:26 2023 No.44535380 That pastepin light novel info in the OP doesn't work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:11:01 2023 No.44535398 Do you have an e-reader for reading or just use your laptop?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 19:28:02 2023 No.44535502 >>44535398 Paperwhite. I thought I'd hate the constant screen refresh but I barely even register it anymore. Look ups can be kind of finicky so I don't think I'd recommend it if you're doing them often.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 20:24:52 2023 No.44535924 >>44535398 same as this guy >>44535502

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:24:39 2023 No.44536335 >>44535398 kobo libra 2, less glare and better for getting rid of distractions than reading on a phone or computer

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:38:36 2023 No.44536410 >>44533112 oh shit it's finally time

Anonymous Tue Sep 5 21:58:09 2023 No.44536511

>>44535314
>I'd prefer something that's just well written rather than being based around a funny concept or gimmick.
from my experience most shit strongly based around a gimmick tends to die before volume 3 or drops the gimmick and becomes a more normal yet subpar story that just crawls along to a mediocre resolution

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 22:18:03 2023 No.44536597 >>44532245 I can't believe ___Carol___ is fucking dead, it's actually gut-wrenching. It's like if Mushoku Tensei author had decided to kill Eris for real.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 22:52:36 2023 No.44536764 >>44532245 Read that ages ago, shame it eternaled.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 23:39:47 2023 No.44537037 >>44536764 At least there was a satisfying ending to the first arc, here's hoping the author will get back to it once they need a break from their other novel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 5 23:50:08 2023 No.44537106 >>44537037 the current arc also had potential so i don't think the author is out of ideas yet so yeah hopefully it can continue soon

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:28:58 2023 No.44537396
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Sooo, there is Ore, Twintail ni Narimasu LN hosted on Baka-Tsuki. I tried reading some, as I relatively enjoyed the anime. Is every LN written in that corny style, or is it TL issue or is this LN just poorly written?

Pfa

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:32:24 2023 No.44537422 >>44537396 try learning japanese and rereading it before asking this question again

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:37:14 2023 No.44537456 >>44537396 When in doubt, the TL is bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:46:31 2023 No.44537525 >>44537456 This answers a lot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:47:20 2023 No.44537530 >>44537456 it's not the TL's fault that Hell Mode is irredeemably dull and written like a MMO log

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 00:48:57 2023 No.44537542 >>44537530 Given how absurd some "translations" seem to be, I wouldn't put anything past localizers. It doesn't mean that the actual text is necessarily a masterpiece or anything, but it'll have a greatly different feel for sure.

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 01:15:30 2023 No.44537767
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>>44537396
>It's simply kino in it's own right.
>It baits you in with characters you can boil down to a single word and a toku structured episodic plot, then quickly goes off the rails into unfolding the real plot.
>It does what every single edgelord "deconstruction" dreams of, showing off how something glorified as good with no downsides isn't all fun and games, except unlike those, it actually uses that as a starting point and goes off from there.
>Characters end up facing heavier stuff even media shilled as "mature" shies away from.
>Even the quirky episodic villains get their depth, doubling as meta commentary on how looks can be deceiving and being reductive of something over a zany aspect is not a good idea.
>MC ends up becoming a hero in the traditional sense of the word, someone that defies tragedy head on, not to be a martyr or for glory, but something greater, with the threat of it ending as a greek tragedy looming close by if he isn't careful.
>Characters also develop with the MC and outside his bubble, despite by all means the plot revolving around the MC, the characters still have their own lives.
>Despite all this, it's also very emotionally honest both in the plot and in a meta sense, this isn't the writer's barely disguised fetish(es), it's literally front and center with all the spotlights on it, except it's also just a good story without being propped up by pretenses of what "good writing" is supposed to be.

>EOPs just consider it corny and poorly written.
This type of reaction from people is hardly new, and all these aspects are hardly exclusive to it, if anything once you dive deep into autism they start to be there more often than not.
But man, it's a shame how much good stuff people miss out on and intentionally detach themselves from just to keep up the pretense of maturity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 01:16:27 2023 No.44537777 >>44537530 Yeah, but the LN in question is Ore, Twintail ni Narimasu (俺、ツインテールになります) and I have no comparion to other LNs, as it's the only one that caught my interest, because anime isn't getting S2 anytime soon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 01:18:46 2023 No.44537801 >>44537767 I conssidered the writing style of amateur TL corny, not the plot, worldbuilding or anything else. Anime adaptation is fun.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 01:19:20 2023 No.44537808 >>44537801 that's why you learn japanese though

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 01:19:45 2023 No.44537811 >>44537801 You mean that you consider the writing style of the translator/editor corny.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 01:20:45 2023 No.44537824 >>44537811 Oh sorry I misread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:33:01 2023 No.44538651 >liar liar finally gets licensed >probably because the anime >it's shitpress >doesn't matter anyway, i know enough japanese now to start reading why the FUCK are they so slow when deepTL is better than them at this point?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 03:54:28 2023 No.44538750 >>44537777 Doubt most 00s and 10s stuff is getting new seasons at this point, they are too old. That DaL is still getting adaptations is a freaky miracle.

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 05:30:37 2023 No.44539203

>>44533112
what do you call that odd feeling of hearing something that is basically myth, then seeing it unfold but instead of being lame it actually delivers?
had the same happen when i got to THAT arc with shu and figaro's first meeting after it got foreshadowed, won't go into much detail because spoilers, but it really was like seeing mythological figures do their thing
it's a very rare sense of kino i don't feel often and i usually only see on good senki when they do flashbacks

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 05:43:57 2023 No.44539245 >>44539203 that's just called payoff

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 05:45:14 2023 No.44539252 >>44533112 Why is Candy dressed in tranny rights colors m

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 06:05:12 2023 No.44539304 >>44539252 Bc it's funny.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 08:42:13 2023 No.44540019 >>44539252 Pretty sure all that use of purplish colors is just because it's right next to green as a generic color for stuff like poison, disease, and corruption. Funny coincidence that it ended up on a crossdresser.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 12:02:19 2023 No.44541501 File: 107 KB, 934x533, 1694001384281608.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kagejitsu volume 6 cover revealed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 12:34:15 2023 No.44541809 File: 739 KB, 580x822, 1694002691995658.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44541501

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 13:02:03 2023 No.44542058 >>44541809 sherry?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 13:03:58 2023 No.44542075 >>44532245 Check out this autismo hexmap. https://novel18.syosetu.com/n6382hq/279/ This is the fourth map for this battle, one at 7AM, 11AM, 1PM, and this one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 13:08:22 2023 No.44542125 >>44542075 That's from ゴルダナ帝国衰亡記, forgot to mention, and that battle is still ongoing.

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 15:30:24 2023 No.44543119
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>>44535398
I have a kobo forma I use some of the time
Though at my age I have to take my glasses off to read things close to me which is a bit annoying
I tend to just read on my desktop computer monitor a lot since I'm used to sitting there all day anyway

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 16:09:21 2023 No.44543389 >>44534656 On vol 7 now. Marie and the five idiots are carrying the show. No wonder she is no 1 in character polls. Not what I expected from her character, reading the first 2 vols

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 16:12:17 2023 No.44543404 >>44535398 E-reader. Only bought one this year and feel like it's a great purchase. I read double the amount of books compared to the same point of time last year and I think the ereader's a factor. Kindle paperwhite btw

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 16:35:06 2023 No.44543546 File: 127 KB, 700x1000, 71yDb67yZML._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyone tried this one? >魔女と猟犬 kinda tempted since it has LAM

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 17:22:59 2023 No.44543748 >>44541501 >>44541809 Can anyone confirm >>256895931

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 17:24:00 2023 No.44543752 >>44543748 >Was beta's username actual silver haired elf babe in the jp text or was that another localization?

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 17:30:59 2023 No.44543799

>>44543389
Marie and the 5 idiots got flanderized post v2 at the behest of marie fags bullying the author on x. The character polls were very clearly botted, though the alzer arc and the other characters during said arc didn't help. Leon, Angie and Livia weren't well written at the time. Luxion is the only consistent throughout the series.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 17:50:25 2023 No.44543927 >>44543752 You are talking about vol 4 anonymous board right? Then >ｘｘｘ銀髪美少女エルフちゃんｘｘｘ Good enough tl imo

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 17:54:32 2023 No.44543959

>>44543799
>Marie and the 5 idiots got flanderized post v2 at the behest of marie fags bullying the author on x.
Good thing, because they are the most entertaining part at this point. Others are fun too but marie and the gang are the most entertaining to read. Haven't read the WN though, so I can't judge if it's for the better or worse

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 19:39:13 2023 No.44544768

>>44543799
Feel like the author went through a weird development around that time, and for an author that often gets memed as not taking their meds, that's saying something.
Basically the constant focus on marie and people's attempts at gaslighting him over supposedly not being good at writing romance (only because said romance was not focused on marie) affected the writing a lot.
It wouldn't be until regaining confidence with evil lord that the author would just go back to do what they had in mind and otome mob's writing would recover.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 21:00:37 2023 No.44545377 >>44543799 >>44544768 the author got his revenge with the marie route, so there's that lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 6 21:07:20 2023 No.44545429 >>44545377 One of the few times where a bad end was completely based KEK

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 21:16:13 2023 No.44545483
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>>44545429
The new route spinoff looks interesting at least, given it's with pic related.
Yes that set a bad precedent because it's almost guaranteed to be a bad end again, but it's all what if stories anyway, that always gives the author a lot of freedom to explore the characters without killing the main plot.

Anonymous Wed Sep 6 23:11:42 2023 No.44546206

>>44544768
That's what happens when an author has the bad luck of attracting the pseuds on narou for being "subversive", their shit feedback has ruined plenty of good series.
At least mishima didn't get the WN lynched off narou for angering them like it always happens.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 7 02:41:02 2023 No.44547476 >>44543546 Lam's illustrations for this caught my attention too

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 7 02:57:27 2023 No.44547586 File: 774 KB, 825x1079, Screenshot_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44543546 really like this artist- wait shit well i really like this aesthetic, dunno what's it called but i wouldn't complain seeing more of it

Anonymous Thu Sep 7 03:20:16 2023 No.44547692

>>44543752
>>44543927
The irony of "bishoujou chan" doesn't really get across on that EN TL.
Other than that I have seen much worse from shitpress.
Any why did they censor the references of him crucifying himself as just "tying himself to a cross" but then censor shadow's swastikas with pentagrams? What the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 7 03:46:49 2023 No.44547799 >>44532245 >but also fake academic references and historian controversies please elaborate

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 7 04:21:46 2023 No.44547957 File: 3.74 MB, 2000x2829, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44547586 >well i really like this aesthetic it's just the artist's style

Anonymous Thu Sep 7 04:46:15 2023 No.44548067

>>44547799
The retrospective of the battle is written like a wiki article with citations of history books with page numbers and references, but also includes parts labelled [CITATION NEEDED], "numbers may be inflated" and "this part might have been made up by a contemporary novelist"

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 7 04:52:42 2023 No.44548102 >>44548067 that's incredibly based, also funny

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 7 11:12:18 2023 No.44550282 >>44547957 I think the joke is that it's not the same artist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 7 14:05:57 2023 No.44551869 File: 333 KB, 512x768, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why is spin-off milla an ugly hag? They ruined perfection.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 7 20:16:25 2023 No.44554629 >>44548067 Senki really is an autism magnet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 03:59:17 2023 No.44557613 >>44543546 What other LNs this artist has illustrated? I swear I have seen that name and style before but can't really recall where.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 04:05:04 2023 No.44557656 >>44557613 It looks like every modern vocaloid thumbnail.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 04:09:46 2023 No.44557684

I saw a LN book at the store, but I don't remember the name, and someone had bought it when I went back. It had a blue cover with a female figure, and it was something about AIs, an entertainment AI, and avoiding war between humans and AIs. I hope it is appropriate to ask here, but might someone know its title? It immediately resonated with me, but I passed up the opportunity, and I find myself regretting it now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 04:12:21 2023 No.44557706 >>44557684 It wasn't beatless was it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 04:17:10 2023 No.44557739 >>44557706 I will look into that, but I think the title might have included at least one V and A. Sorry, I should have said that earlier, but I appreciate your post.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 04:19:49 2023 No.44557753 >>44557684 >>44557739 i assume it was in english so that narrows it down by a lot, but what was the hair color of this female figure? the overall cover was bright and clear or dark?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 04:22:17 2023 No.44557773 >>44557753 It was indeed in English and the cover was bluish with a space theme, so I would say on the darker side, but I don't remember the hair color.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 04:27:44 2023 No.44557817
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>>44557773
the first ones that come to mind that have a space theme on the cover are reborn as a space mercenary and evil lord of an intergalactic empire

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 04:28:54 2023 No.44557822 File: 3.85 MB, 1800x2560, Novel_Vol_1_Cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Somehow I found it. Sorry for troubling you guys.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 04:30:42 2023 No.44557835 >>44557822 oh well i was hoping to help but you found it yourself lmao

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 05:48:28 2023 No.44558248

>>44557822
Haha, just saw your post and that's the first thing that came to mind with the entertainment AI. But isn't this just the novelization of the anime? watching anime is the better option in such cases by my experience. Especially in this case because music is an integral part of vivy

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 07:31:08 2023 No.44558587

>>44558248
Vivy is a slightly special case because the novels were written first and used as the basis for the anime while still unpublished, and only got published afterwards.
https://vivy-anime.com/special/roundtable_discussion/
I think it worked better this way because you don't get sourcefags in every anime thread complaining about what was cut.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 07:57:41 2023 No.44558731

>>44558587
Adding to this I would consider the Vivy anime and novels to be remixes of each other more than adaptations; a lot of the basic concepts, setting, character and themes changed and both stand on their own without the other being in a place to supplant them.

Anonymous Fri Sep 8 08:15:02 2023 No.44558827
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>listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p8ig-TrYPY for the first time in years
>the memories start flooding back
I still can't believe the pandemic lockdowns were the happiest that I had been in years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 14:29:24 2023 No.44561749 >>44558248 Maybe I'm weird but I don't watch anime so I prefer reading. Like I read all of Demon Slayer but never watched the anime.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 16:07:53 2023 No.44562328 >>44543959 Also a small doubt but what trope is chris trying to portray with his happi, fundoshi and the obsession with bathtubs?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:14:59 2023 No.44563175 so when you have a person/a group say はっ after receiving an order, how do you guys translate it? would you just leave it as "ha"? change it to ma'am or sir? maybe add a "yes" in front of it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 18:18:22 2023 No.44563198 >>44563175 Well thankfully I'm not a translator but I would just go with "Yes, sir" or whatever fits. Nobody in English goes "Ha" like that as an affirmative so it would make no sense.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:37:13 2023 No.44564724 >>44558827 i knew from the moment they started that it was going to be the happiest time i get in a long time

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 8 21:41:33 2023 No.44564747 >>44561749 >Can easily go through a volume whenever I get to reading, and actually sitting down to read is easy and natural. >Setting up an anime to watch is a massive chore, even when I already downloaded a season. Can relate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 06:18:44 2023 No.44567289 >>44563175 seems a bit informal compared to a ryoukai or it's longer even more polite alternative, but not informal enough like a normal "yeah" seconding "yes sir" given that's about the same level of politeness

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 06:27:29 2023 No.44567345 >>44563175 you can make it "aye aye" if they're nautical

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 12:45:40 2023 No.44572016 >>44543389 Completed vol 12. The second half was a bit emotional, probably because I like the "everyone comes together to save the hero" trope. Next vol's going to be the final one I think, any wn readers?

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 15:51:14 2023 No.44574441

Lately I've been thinking about buying a membership to audible jp, do you guys think it's a good idea or am I just going to waste my money?
There are a couple of audiobooks that I haven't been able to find anywhere else but I don't know if that alone would be worth buying a membership for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 19:07:37 2023 No.44576258 >>44574441 Isn't that the one where you can DL everything you want and then cancel your membership? Either way I can't see how it wouldn't be mathematically worth it unless by "a couple" you mean literally 2 books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 9 19:35:40 2023 No.44576521 >feel nostalgia for magic school battle harems even though I barely engaged with that genre I guess I just miss everything else I associate with that era. 20 years from now I'll miss those "kicked out from the party" WNs.

Anonymous Sat Sep 9 21:11:48 2023 No.44577511

>>44574441
If you really enjoy audiobooks, and have the money to spare, I don't see the problem on just buying the membership.
But like someone else already said, if you only want like one or two then yeah probably not worth it, even if you justify it by saying you want to support the author you are better off buying the LN in japanese for that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 05:52:47 2023 No.44581355 >>44576521 half the stuff from that era is still ongoing though

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 10:03:31 2023 No.44582741 Anywhere I can read the original marie route, the one written as the questionnaire bonus?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 10:18:31 2023 No.44582894 >>44582741 Nevermind, found them on the official site. Does anyone know how much additional content is there in the book version compared to these?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 10:28:45 2023 No.44582964 >>44582894 i think the marie route WN is pretty 1:1 to the LN so far

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 10:42:59 2023 No.44583096 >>44582964 Is that so? Vol 1's blurb says there's a lot of additional content so I was wondering if I should wait for more of the route to be published instead of reading the WN

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 14:03:43 2023 No.44586772
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anyone read Conqueror From a Dying Kingdom?
i liked the fact that MC first had to introduce patents to the Queen before going wild on introducing modern stuff to the world
I'm also a sucker for light novels that spend so much time on world building to the point that he had several pages trying to explain how oath sacraments work and how a religion came to be. Also helps that the way MC makes everything he does feels like a plan to stop the kingdom from going into ruin from self-destruction or from being invaded it
anyways, does this ever get better for Lilly? I felt a bit blueballed when Yuri told her to save her virginity for another person that isn't him...

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 14:17:13 2023 No.44586981

>>44586772
I like the worldbuilding but the random Yeesus loredump felt a bit out of place. Most other instances of it were more natural or at least more relevant.
As for Lily things will get better for her eventually but saying more than that would be turbo spoilers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 20:25:35 2023 No.44590664 >>44586772 people unironically enjoying what is essentially wiki filler is just bizarre to me

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 21:30:02 2023 No.44591101

>>44583096
When that's said there's a 99% chance it's either the usual LN publication thing where the author is made to write a smart side story chapter per volume, or an arc got slightly expanded, usually because the stopping point the author decided for the volume is not enough content to cover the whole book.
Personally I haven't read the marie route, but knowing the WN and LN of otome mob do diverge after a certain point makes me think it could be either, but doubt it would diverge right at the start so it's probably just expanding the first arc.

Anonymous Sun Sep 10 23:48:25 2023 No.44592080

>>44590664
For me I'm the kind of retard who likes reading TTRPG sourcebooks for fun so a little bit of a loredump here and there, particularly if it's establishing some context that will become relevant at a later time, can really go some way to making a world feel more alive. The timing has to be appropriate of course.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 10 23:51:42 2023 No.44592111 >>44590664 being a lorefag is a fundamentally different mindset. I've just come to accept it as one of those things I can't understand

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 01:02:19 2023 No.44592702 >>44592111 I think it's more about infodumps in particular than general lorefagging. General lorefagging is pretty much part of the experience.

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 04:51:55 2023 No.44594073

>>44591101
Yeah, seems like it's just expanded upon. Also realized that author thought up a lot more background lore than I realized
>the one angie ended up marrying in-game is probably in-game rion
>the deep connection between the 1st game and the 6th game
>millaine and rion probably being the reincarnations of luxion's developers
>kingdom's origins, bertfort and the saintess
Also the games were a fucking trap, wonder if there's also something with its developers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 11:53:49 2023 No.44597002 >>44594073 everything related to the game(s) is it's own rabbit hole probably obvious but read the main story before the mary route if you haven't already

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 12:22:42 2023 No.44597339 >>44597002 Read it. Also just completed marie's WN, the difference between the latest main route luxion and latest marie route luxion is too much, lol. Everyone's going to die in Marie's, aren't they

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 18:31:41 2023 No.44601725 >>44597339 Wasn't the Marie one already over in the WN?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 18:41:02 2023 No.44601828 >>44591101 at least it's good to see store exclusive side stories are almost a dead practice even with bookwalker's desperate attempts at keeping them alive

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 22:23:16 2023 No.44603983 File: 39 KB, 225x350, 136041.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There's a Cross Channel LN? Wonder if it's any good. https://myanimelist.net/manga/78605/Cross%E2%80%A0Channel

Anonymous Mon Sep 11 22:28:44 2023 No.44604027
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Any good fantasy (isekai or not) novels that have a monogamous relationship? Doesn't have to be the main focus, as I'm mainly wanting decent high fantasy adventure, but it feels like harems are the norm for like 90% of stories in this genre as I'm searching.

Bonus points if the love interest is a monster and/or strong girl, a big girl in general, bigger than the protagonist preferably.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 22:50:41 2023 No.44604199 >>44594073 >hate marie >now i want to slog through that for the d e e p l o r e i hate it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 11 23:36:10 2023 No.44604542 >>44594073 Clearly the games were made by and sent into the past by Leon to ensure that he and Marie reincarnated later.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 01:47:41 2023 No.44605450 >>44594073 >>44604199 That crazy deep lore is one of the big reasons Mishima has the whole "off-meds" meme going on. And it's amazing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 03:12:46 2023 No.44605993 >>44601725 No, it's actually written as an official bonus you can read by answering the questionnaire with the each main vol. It will end soon though as there's only one main vol (or 2 at most) left

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 04:08:45 2023 No.44606347 >>44605993 was that just to be a pain in the ass for that type of mariefag to read?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 04:32:41 2023 No.44606476 >>44606347 What do you mean?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 04:36:51 2023 No.44606506 >>44606476 ignore it, it was a shit joke that didn't land

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 04:56:44 2023 No.44606616

>>44544768
>over supposedly not being good at writing romance
Are they really wrong though? It's quite obvious even in the LNs that handling all those heroines is a bit over his capacity. Well, he has the ability but the pacing itself didn't lend itself well to writing romance parts. Compare it with marie route where the slower pace and the single heroine gave him more breathing room to bring out the romance. And considering the WN's pacing is so fast that it reads like an abridgement, I don't think those complaints are misplaced.
>>44594073
Btw, if there are any angiefags here, I found this extremely high quality fanfic about angie's afterstory in-game. https://syosetu.org/novel/307038/
The guy also commisioned illusts for it

Anonymous Tue Sep 12 05:13:32 2023 No.44606702

>>44606616
this problem is almost exclusive to otome mob though, and even then it went fine until that particular crowd started to swarm him, so it was fine until volume 3-4 content basically, and then it actually started to get fixed later when the author stopped listening to said crowd
sevens is it's own entire thing i would rather not spoil, and you should read anyway, but the romance in evil lord is better in a more straightforward way
in true autismfag fashion pretty much every (important) character is wrong in the head in some way, sometimes in multiple ways, but these dynamics are what make something actually good when it comes to character chemistry, which does include romance

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 05:30:19 2023 No.44606794 >>44606616 >I found this extremely high quality fanfic about angie's afterstory in-game Say less anon, thanks!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 12:38:43 2023 No.44609656 >>44606616 You know you're in for a ride when it has illustrations.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 17:01:48 2023 No.44612588 >>44609656 my angie folder just quadrupled holy shit. yomu needs to make tis guys stuff cannon kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 17:57:59 2023 No.44613054 does anybody have a full quality rip/epub of volumes 9-11 + side of fire for nanatsu no maken? the ones i found on zlib were unfortunately low quality uploads

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 12 22:51:50 2023 No.44615324 File: 199 KB, 801x1000, 1687413755288943.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44606616 I want to FUCK angie!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 05:20:32 2023 No.44617470 Any LNs similar to Mushoku Tensei you recommend after I finish reading it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 13:29:06 2023 No.44621924 >>44617470 Similar in what sense? Please be specific

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 13:31:57 2023 No.44621973 >>44615324 She's the best anime girl of 2022 if you ask me

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:23:53 2023 No.44623041 >>44518861 You really managed to get comfortable within a year? Were you a total beginner when you started reading?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:37:07 2023 No.44623155 >>44623041 nta but i did too as a beginner, it's not difficult as long as you have enough time to put in

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:42:02 2023 No.44623197 File: 189 KB, 822x597, Screenshot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] nice when a tl seems to give a shit about a series instead of just cashing a check.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 15:47:52 2023 No.44623244 >>44617470 Ascendance of a Bookworm

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:16:15 2023 No.44623434

>>44604027
piggy duke - dude gets isekaied into a supporting character from an anime, whose girl leaves him for the protagonist's harem. he focuses on keeping that girl (while averting the war from the anime from breaking out) and never really considers anyone else, doesn't get greedy going after the other girls from the anime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:33:51 2023 No.44623552 >>44623041 nta either but I did it too by ankidroning a lot once you cover the top7-10k most frequent words on jpdb, you can read pretty much anything comfortably I'm currently sitting at 30k words and I just read whatever I want with minimum loop-up

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:38:14 2023 No.44623570 Which is the easiest LN to read in Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:44:59 2023 No.44623618 >>44623434 >leaves him >focuses on keeping that girl ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:45:39 2023 No.44623625 >>44623570 whatever you most actually want to read

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 16:57:16 2023 No.44623680 >>44604027 do you want a clear single romance focus with maybe one alternate loser for extra drama, or a harem where only one heroine wins?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 17:05:11 2023 No.44623726 >>44604027 Der Werwolf has a clear winner out of the various potential candidates who gets married halfway through the series, and then the last couple of volumes are about their daughter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 17:38:28 2023 No.44623952 >>44623570 That one with the tsundere and the otaku protagonist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 17:39:33 2023 No.44623960 >>44623041 Seconding (thirding?). It took me an year from a serious start to reading LNs just fine. Your language acquisition gets really fast once you start hitting your head against a book

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 17:59:55 2023 No.44624094 Where can I find MT in Japanese? The main series isn't on Nyaa and it's not in the library in the OP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 18:06:07 2023 No.44624144 >>44624094 its on zlib

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 19:15:35 2023 No.44624685

>>44624094
it is, volume 1-25 in epub format even
https://nyaa.si/view/1688403
only downside is they're the low quality versions because for some reason some people can't be bothered to add the extension that combines epubs with the higher quality images
most of the time i end up buying stuff even though there's epubs available because of it

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:07:21 2023 No.44625173

>>44623041
Adding my story to the pile, it's not unrealistic at all though focused study 2-3 hours a day by learning grammar and going straight to reading ASAP.
Yes you need to be a bit autistic to do this, but if you're at the point of learning a language for media then you're already a bit autistic anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:37:32 2023 No.44625488 >>44516368 as of today I still have fewer cards than you and I've already finished several LN volumes

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:23:34 2023 No.44627182 File: 758 KB, 1272x3552, hyakurendaughter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >hyakuren author successfully raised a daughter as a single dad kinda heartwarming desu

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:15:58 2023 No.44627470 >>44627182 that's honestly pretty amazing when put into context like that

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:23:49 2023 No.44627536 File: 1.45 MB, 1804x2560, your_forma.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Has anyone read this? I read the first two volumes and thought it was pretty good for a sci-fi ln

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:26:39 2023 No.44627556 >>44627182 Shame the last volume wasn't announcing his second child on the way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:26:30 2023 No.44629112 >>44516368 pretty sure in 24 years you would have grinded out all the kanji that exist in modern japanese, even name ones what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 10:58:47 2023 No.44630598 >>44528316 Very underrated advice. This is what I wish I had done instead of wasting my time with Heisig, 10k grinding without context, etc etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:09:56 2023 No.44634592 >>44627536 this is one of those where it feels the author can go full off-meds at any time pretty good honestly

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:57:49 2023 No.44636221

been reading more monogatari. finished kabuki the other day, reading otori atm. it's somewhat exausting to read, it's from the perspective of nadeko and she constantly but not always refers to herself in third person. also intentional misspellings. very shizo writing style.
gonna read 86 vol. 2&3 after

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 04:58:52 2023 No.44639420

Meta autism incoming:
Which authors/publishers are on your go to list? for publishers overlap comes to mind
>evil lord
>failure frame
>trpg
>arifureta
feels like their catalog is consistently good vs a lot of others with 1-2 golden cows propping up the whole publisher

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 05:15:53 2023 No.44639480 >>44636221 >intentional misspellings Can you post some?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 06:55:42 2023 No.44639912 File: 75 KB, 1037x585, nadeko sperging.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44639480 some random inner monologue from nadeko

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 07:16:38 2023 No.44640035
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新刊情報 / New Publication News
9月下半

>オーバーラップ文庫
反逆者として王国で処刑された隠れ最強騎士 2
魔王と竜王に育てられた少年は学園生活を無双するようです 5
エロゲ転生　運命に抗う金豚貴族の奮闘記 5
灰の世界は神の眼で彩づく 2
現役JKアイドルさんは暇人の俺に興味があるらしい。 2
あたしは星間国家の英雄騎士！

>オーバーラップノベルス
ドロップアウトからの再就職先は、異世界の最強騎士団でした 2
聖人公爵様がラスボスだということを私だけが知っている 1
異世界で土地を買って農場を作ろう 15

>GCノベルズ
転生したら剣でした 16
魔女と傭兵２
暴食のベルセルク～俺だけレベルという概念を突破して最強～ 7
モンスターの肉を食っていたら王位に就いた件

>GA文庫
攻略できない峰内さん
隣のクラスの美少女と甘々学園生活を送っていますが告白相手を間違えたなんていまさら言えません
「キスなんてできないでしょ？」と挑発する生意気な幼馴染をわからせてやったら、予想以上にデレた２
理系彼女と文系彼氏、先に告った方が負け２
ゲームで不遇職を極めた少年、異世界では魔術師適性ＭＡＸだと歓迎されて英雄生活を自由に満喫する／スペルキャスターＬv100
ダンジョンに出会いを求めるのは間違っているだろうか 19
お隣の天使様にいつの間にか駄目人間にされていた件8.5
その王妃は異邦人　～東方妃婚姻譚～
失格紋の最強賢者 18　～世界最強の賢者が更に強くなるために転生しました～
難攻不落の魔王城へようこそ３　～デバフは不要と勇者パーティーを追い出された黒魔導士、魔王軍の最高幹部に迎えられる～

>富士見ファンタジア文庫
武神伝生贄に捧げられた俺は、神に拾われ武を極める
英雄女騎士に有能とバレた俺の美人ハーレム騎士団ガイカク・ヒクメの奇術騎士団
クラスのプライド高めなお嬢様。家では俺のメイド
金属スライムを倒しまくった俺が【黒鋼の王】と呼ばれるまで 2
異世界でチート能力を手にした俺は、現実世界をも無双する　ガールズサイド 3
王様のプロポーズ５真赭の賢者
オーク英雄物語５忖度列伝
経験済みなキミと、経験ゼロなオレが、お付き合いする話。その 7

>電撃文庫
竜殺しのブリュンヒルド　（2）
国王である兄から辺境に追放されたけど平穏に暮らしたい（3）～目指せスローライフ～
奴隷からの期待と評価のせいで搾取できないのだが 2
売れ残りの奴隷エルフを拾ったので、娘にすることにした 2
ふつおたはいりません！～崖っぷち声優、ラジオで人生リスタート！～

>MF文庫J
エヴァーラスティング・ノア　この残酷な世界で一人の死体人形を愛する少年の危険性について 1
カルネアデス天使警察エルと気弱な悪魔 1
ＳＹＮＤＵＡＬＩＴＹ　ＥＬＬＩＥ１
ライアー・ライアーＳＳ　嘘つき転校生は学園島で波乱万丈な日々を送っています。 15
Ｒｅ：ゼロから始める異世界生活 35
Ｒｅ：ゼロから始める異世界生活　短編集 9

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 07:18:35 2023 No.44640044
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>>44640035

>HJ文庫
陰キャの僕に罰ゲームで告白してきたはずのギャルが、どう見ても僕にベタ惚れです7
箱入りお嬢様と庶民な俺のやりたい100のことその2.ファーストダンスをあなたと
モブから始まる探索英雄譚7
忘れられ師の英雄譚1　聖勇女パーティーに優しき追放をされた男は、記憶に残らずとも彼女達を救う
<Infinite Dendrogram>-インフィニット・デンドログラム- 21.神殺し
凶乱令嬢ニア・リストン3 病弱令嬢に転生した神殺しの武人の華麗なる無双録
くだものナイフと傷だらけのリンゴ1　モテすぎる彼女は、なぜか僕とだけお酒を飲む

>HJノベルス
貰った三つの外れスキル、合わせたら最強でした 1
ルーン魔術だけが取り柄の不憫令嬢、天才王子に溺愛される 1
グランアヴェール 2
アラフォーになった最強の英雄たち、再び戦場で無双する!! 4
異世界のんびり開拓記 5
異世界料理道 31

>ガガガ文庫
悪ノ黙示録裏社会の帝王、死して異世界をも支配する
恋人以上のことを、彼女じゃない君と。３
楽園殺し３ＦＥＳ

>MFブックス
赤ん坊の異世界ハイハイ奮闘録１
最低キャラに転生した俺は生き残りたい２
食料生成スキルを手に入れたので、異世界で商会を立ち上げようと思います　２
使い潰された勇者は二度目、いや、三度目の人生を自由に謳歌したいようです２
八男って、それはないでしょう！　28
槍の勇者のやり直し　４
理不尽に婚約破棄されましたが、雑用魔法で王族直系の大貴族に嫁入りします！１

>KADOKAWAの新文芸
狐と戦車と黄金と２
全職高手２　マスター・オブ・スキル

>角川スニーカー文庫
陰キャだった俺の青春リベンジ5 天使すぎるあの娘と歩むReライフ
この素晴らしい世界に祝福を！よりみち３回目！
勇者パーティーをクビになったので故郷に帰ったら、メンバー全員がついてきたんだが
誰が勇者を殺したか
最強落第貴族の剣魔極めし暗闘譚
隣の席のヤンキー清水さんが髪を黒く染めてきた２
マジカルエクスプローラーエロゲの友人キャラに転生したけど、ゲーム知識使って自由に生きる9
最強出涸らし皇子の暗躍帝位争い 12

>ダッシュエックス文庫
魔弾の王と叛神の輝剣
世界最強のジョブ・レンダー《職業貸与者》2
ジョージは魔法の使い方を間違っていた!?

>アース・スターノベル
王空騎士団と救国の少女世界最速の飛翔能力者アイリス 1
その亀、地上最強２
駄菓子屋ヤハギ異世界に出店します 4
領民０人スタートの辺境領主様 10

>モンスター文庫
超難関ダンジョンで１０万年修行した結果、世界最強に～最弱無能の下剋上～（5）

>Ｍノベルス
転生したら才能があった件～異世界行っても努力する～（2）
寝取られ追放された最強騎士団長のおっさん、片田舎で英雄に祭り上げられる
魔王様、リトライ！（9）
勇者になれなかった三馬鹿トリオは、今日も男飯を拵える。（5）

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 07:27:30 2023 No.44640086 I've been reading volume 8 of 天使様 and I'm actually really mad there's a side char slut gyaru who's cucking her childhood friend.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 07:32:31 2023 No.44640111

>>44639420
Wouldn't really say most publishers get carried by just 1-2 series, that's the minority and outside of lesser known names that have to rely on it, only HJ really does it with roku, and only because somehow from all the stuff they grab, they all manage to be cult classics with a small but very dedicated fanbase, it's both a blessing and a curse at this point.
Also I guess you could consider MF books that could may as well change it's name to MT books and nobody would bat an eye.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 08:06:08 2023 No.44640260
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>>44640044
thanks anon

You missed some I think
>KADOKAWAの新文芸
グラン＆グルメ　２　～器用貧乏な転生勇者が始める辺境スローライフ～２
剣よ、かく語りき２２
シロナガス島への帰還２
転生錬金少女のスローライフ　２
富豪令嬢１
ブルバスター　０３
幼女戦記　１４　Ｄｕｍ　ｓｐｉｒｏ，ｓｐｅｒｏ　―下― １４

>MF文庫J
狐と戦車と黄金と２　傭兵少女は社畜から抜け出したい！

also
反逆者として王国で処刑された隠れ最強騎士 2
released last month

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 08:06:43 2023 No.44640262 >>44639420 for me it's HJ >roku >dendro >retirementfag >infinite gacha >isekai smartphone >hyakuren it just tickles the autism in a specific way

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 08:13:02 2023 No.44640288 >>44640260 Thanks, if they were announced within the last few days that's probably why I missed them, Square also has a tendency to announce very close to release, and because they release on the 7th of each month it's easy to miss them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 08:45:47 2023 No.44640414 >>44640262 HJ is a good shout! i feel like with you could obviously say dengeki in their hayday. >>44640111 Are MF Books and MF Bunko j two different publishers?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 08:55:33 2023 No.44640447 >>44640414 MF文庫J and MFブックス are two separate publishers, but with over half the industry being under the kadokawa umbrella and some publishers having multiple labels, I don't blame you for being confused.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 09:09:24 2023 No.44640505 >>44639420 >>44640414 To be fair if you're a 80-90s kid that grew up with anime and got into LNs early, dengeki, fantasia and MFJ are your teenage years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 09:15:36 2023 No.44640530 >>44640262 >infinite gacha and smartphone are from HJ what the fug

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 11:54:43 2023 No.44641575 man i want to give the toaru series a go but it's just so daunting

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 13:22:55 2023 No.44642400
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>New Dendro chapter
>Kata got a massive murderboner towards Ray
YES
>--but Luke's gonna steal the spotlight
FUCK. Guess I'll just wait for Ray vs Fran instead.
Also, based Moneygold, picrel.
>>44604027
TL'd ones right? Then there's Skellington Knight, Faraway Paladin, Dragoon (shit ending though), Regios, Grancrest, Denyuuden, (technically) Baka to Test, Alderamin, Zashiki-Warashi, Bookworm, Level 2 something-something, and (technically) Risou no Himo just to name a few. There's a shitton of mono relationship fantasy anon (and even moreso for those untranslated), you just gotta level up your googling skills.
>>44640035
>Dendro and Danmachi together
Woohooo, gonna be eating good this month. Thanks as usual anon.
>>44641575
Just do it. It's quite easy to get into, and OT Index is honestly one of the best LNs I've ever read (though that's probably the nostalgia speaking). You might need some time to be accustomed to the "three protagonist" thingy though, so I reckon you should probably consider reading Zashiki-Warashi or Heavy Object first to be more familiar with Kamachi's writing style before moving on to Index. Can't really say the same for its sequel though, the only good thing that ever came from NT/GT is Othinus and Kamijou Touma the Normal Highschool Dragon bashing the head of Kamijou Touma (Pink) with a car and a ton of fertilizer and nothing else. Misaki best girl.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 21:19:38 2023 No.44646874 >>44642400 gonna take this opportunity to bitch about emily an actual schizo (or a chuunifag's idea of one) is the least interesting idea for a dendro player yet

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 21:26:24 2023 No.44646925

>>44641575
that's the inevitable fate of anything that crosses the 30 volume peak and just keeps going, in the 20s it's still long but looks manageable, past that it just turns daunting for people
just don't read it all in one sitting anon, the entire thing was released over the course of literal decades so take it slow

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 21:46:32 2023 No.44647076 >>44646925 I'm a pleb and 20 is enough to scare me away

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 21:52:31 2023 No.44647125 >>44642400 >>44646925 good, point i'll just chip away at it over time

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 22:55:13 2023 No.44647575 Any stories revolving around aristocracy, kingship, political games, warfare, absent moralfaggotry? Something French or Hellenistic inspired. All magic and fantasy tropes acceptable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:07:28 2023 No.44648352 File: 220 KB, 619x877, 94463641_p1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how does one differentiate between a LN and an actual book?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:08:56 2023 No.44648365 >>44648352 1. Does it have a cute anime girl on the cover. 2. Who publishes it. That's the only difference

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:13:27 2023 No.44648399 >>44648352 Any book where the protagonist is a male japanese high school student with black corneas and black mop hair but the girls are all varied in appearance/description

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:22:19 2023 No.44648467 >>44648352 Marketing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 01:27:43 2023 No.44648497 >>44648352 Mostly a matter of feel. It's kind of nebulous but on the other hand I can't think of any works off the top of my head that aren't decisively one or the other

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 02:09:09 2023 No.44648835

>>44648352
"akshool bucks" have gotten anime and manga adaptations and reprints with anime illustration covers
normal LNs have gotten prints without the cover at normal book sizes and constantly win literature awards
the difference is nonexistent and a marketing buzzword at best, similar to the difference between bunko, noberu, and bukksu

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 02:45:42 2023 No.44649046

>>44648352
It's not really a rule but my problem with LNs/juvenile targeted-books is that most of them are written like a monster of the week volume show that goes on for as long as sales allow, and when the ending comes it comes rushed because the author spend years introducing plot points to stretch the series, rather than actively working towards an ending.
You could say the same thing happens with actual books too and it does but the point is that LN publishers basically only aim for that kind of series. Ultimately something is a LN if it's released as one, so the publishers and their editors, with their goals and preferences, are who define what is expected out of a "light novel".

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 02:56:25 2023 No.44649106 >>44649046 Have you tried reading anything outside the usual mainstream stuff?

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 02:58:29 2023 No.44649113
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I am reading ben-to. When does the author stop beating the shit out of Satou? Fuck, I like the idea and chuckle at the humor in this LN but why is everyone moping the floor with the main character? Is it getting better? Finished the first volume.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 03:05:58 2023 No.44649161

>>44641575
Said twice already but there's nothing wrong with learning to space out reading volumes for any given series.
If anything that's what you should be doing, because getting used to it will lessen the blow of withdrawal from catching up to something and then having to wait 3-16 months for the next volume.
Binging something and then hitting withdrawal is just painful.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 03:22:03 2023 No.44649274

>>44649106
I said "most". Don't get me wrong, I think being a normal book or a LN means nothing for an individual book and there are no objective differences between the two, so when someone asks if there is a difference in content between a LN and normal books the best thing you can do is compare overall tendencies, which of course are much influenced by the mainstream stuff.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 03:34:34 2023 No.44649344

>>44649274
>the best thing you can do is compare overall tendencies, which of course are much influenced by the mainstream stuff.
They really don't, mainstream stuff only affects itself, niche autistic/schizo stuff takes aesthetically inspiration from everything, but story wise tends to be influenced by other similar stuff.
Novels in general (which includes LNs of both the WN variety and contest winners, WNs and "reel" books) are far too broad of a genre now to really say the entire medium is the same, at this point there's multiple islands inside the medium so far apart that they don't even get near each other even when published under the same label, and this gap only widens even more when talking about EOPs only.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 11:45:11 2023 No.44651936 does like the kamiges of LN exist in japan? like novels that are considered the peak of the genre by a large consensus?

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 11:54:55 2023 No.44652037

>>44647575
You could try 亡びの国の征服者, it was mentioned a few times in this thread.
Also, I like ゴルダナ帝国衰亡記 a lot, but not sure if that's what you're looking for. So far it's mostly the people around MC doing the politics while he's trying to avoid getting caught up in that, but that seems like it'll change after the current war arc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 12:40:04 2023 No.44652520 >>44651936 a lot of people's top 10 in japan aren't all that different from sales rankings, so shit's pretty boring on that front

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 12:44:14 2023 No.44652565 Fuck, Mobseka doesn't leave my mind to the point of dreaming up fanfics in sleep. I generally go through this when I read something over 20 vols so this is weird

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 13:29:04 2023 No.44653089 >>44647575 Tearmoon Empire :^)

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 13:57:55 2023 No.44653411
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>>44646874
>Emily
Yeah, I get you. Dendro's main selling point is its depiction of the players' slow descent to madness, so introducing a character that's already insane from the get-go is not that amusing in retrospect. But it's a bit too soon to judge her entirely though, the IF mini side-story actually hints that Emmy has a somewhat sound mind, which means that she's miles more dangerous than Hannya and made her Ult much more menacing, given that she's the only IF member aside from Lacrima that we haven't seen their full capabilities yet.
Putting that aside, I've never thought I would actually enjoy Pale Psalms this much. It's nice seeing how Hugo breaks out of her shell/facade and starts to interact with the world proper as Yuri Gautier and not Hugo Lesseps, not to mention how Cyco keeps gaslighting Hugo to face her problems head on and how she doesn't even bother putting any effort in hiding Hugo's real self past Franklin's arc.
>>44651936
Not exactly no, they're not as niche as a medium and their popularity tends to be heavily influenced by their publisher unlike VNs, so most of the time hidden gems will keep being hidden and the blandest wordsalad can be praised to hell (looking at you Overlord, yes this is mostly bait). Not to say that they don't exist at all mind you, but a better term would probably be "LNs that kickstarted an entire generation of tropes" rather than Kami(No/Be/Ru?) when talking about popularity, genre, etc. You know, things like Index's Normal Highschool Boy, Slayers' High Fantasy setting, ZnT's Isekai, MaouYuu's Yuusha (instead of Eiyuu), Accel Word/SAO's MMORPG (it really should be Hack, but we're talking about LNs here), and Guin Saga's saga (read: long-ass volumes) I suppose?
I'm willing to say OT Index and Horizon as Kaminos though, at least for Battle Harem for the former and Senki for the latter.
>>44649113
It's volume 1, what do you expect? The series is written like the start of an urban legend, shitters got no name and distinctive characteristics but you know they're the real deal once they have their own epithet. He at the very least can fight Wizard evenly at the last volume, though he's already a decent fighter by the time Shaga came in.
>>44647076
For first timers, try watching the anime/manga adaptation at first. If you're hooked, continue with the LNs, that way you can still get the general idea even if you skim through most of the story. Try Hyouka as a start, then move on to something longer like Heavy Object, then Regios, etc. Later on you'll feel that 20 vols is fucking nothing in the grand scheme of things, the real deal starts at 40.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 14:24:13 2023 No.44653693

>>44653411
>It's volume 1, what do you expect? The series is written like the start of an urban legend, shitters got no name and distinctive characteristics but you know they're the real deal once they have their own epithet. He at the very least can fight Wizard evenly at the last volume, though he's already a decent fighter by the time Shaga came in.
He became a decent fighter in volume 1. But Ume still bullies him into oblivion.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 14:27:53 2023 No.44653734

>>44653411
>pale psalms
They are more entertaining than ray's story at this point lol. Personally there is not enough spice in the main story since the end of the failed conference. Pale psalms though? Lots of cool stuff, especially the eltram arc and the finale of 命在る限り

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 18:08:33 2023 No.44655744

>>44653411
>(looking at you Overlord, yes this is mostly bait)
i don't think there's that many people that would defend overlord after the 2 most recent volumes, there was plausible deniability with the ruined kingdom volume, but at this point it's blatantly clear hackuyama doesn't give a shit anymore

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 18:12:20 2023 No.44655777 >>44651936 Iriya no Sora

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 18:23:58 2023 No.44655867 >>44651936 from what I've seen, jop circle jerks tend to (legitimately) hype novels from Hisamitsu Ueo, Mizuhito Akiyama, Minoru Kawakami, Kouhei Kadono, Ryougo Narita...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 18:36:12 2023 No.44655932 File: 73 KB, 181x183, 1678601315882657.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holy fuck, Kiyosato Mei is such a fucking bitch Dogshit character, btfo by Ayano

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 20:42:37 2023 No.44656810 >>44653411 It's still funny people still pretend ZnT did anything for isekai when nothing before or after really resembles it, if anything it's a battle harem that happens to have an MC from earth summoned to another world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 21:30:13 2023 No.44657028 anyone got Avesta of Black and White shits stupidly expensive, like 4k yen per volume

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 23:48:55 2023 No.44657739 >>44657028 iirc an anon posted the wn, but missing the last volume, which has been rewrited a fuckton in the ln

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 00:04:35 2023 No.44657841 >>44651936 >>44655867 I don't hang around people who would be the LN sphere's equivalent of kamige circlejerkers but I have occasionally seen Iriya, Qualia, and Jintai be praised in more or less the same manner as Muramasa, Subahibi, etc.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 00:44:19 2023 No.44658065
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>>44648352
If you would be willing to hand the book to a stranger and let them flip through it without fear of being judged, it isn't a light novel.
Alternatively, if you couldn't get past showing the anime girl on the cover to a stranger without being judged it's definitely a light novel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 00:47:01 2023 No.44658081 >>44658065 that's quite possibly the most normalfag measure i have seen without bringing up sales figures in some way

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 00:51:22 2023 No.44658109 >>44657841 The Moogy Special™

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 00:55:02 2023 No.44658132 >>44657841 Surprisingly apt on-point comparison to be honest.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 03:11:50 2023 No.44659369
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>>44656810
>ZnT did anything for isekai
Iunno anon, wasn't there a period where narou got flooded with ZnT fanfics in the 00s? Same people eventually did make their own isekai (and nu-isekai later on after 2016). Of course, there's perhaps even more memorable series that could serve as the genre's better common ancestor (Rayearth, Soko ni Iru Boku, etc.), but we're specifically talking about the LN/WN field here. Then again, I've never bothered about fanfic through the entirety of my life, so it's kinda whatever I suppose.
>>44653693
>Ume
Ah, the lesbian hyperdyke. Yeah, their dynamic doesn't really change that much, but her ending is one of the funniest thing that have ever existed. Her mental gymnastic is as one would expect from a /u/ crossboarder. Also, what happens in the mart, stays in the mart, don't you think it would be bad if words came out about how Satou beat up a bunch of housewives, students, and athletes in his boxer just to make ends meet?
>>44658065
Nah, that's just powerlevel. I sure as hell won't be judged by reading picrel no matter the occasion even if it's peak LN material, but reading Sobotta/Netter/Guyton could still elicit some stink eye from the uninformed masses even if it's literally just an atlas, hell I might even get a public indecency/pornography charges near certain secluded community.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 06:04:24 2023 No.44661602

>>44659369
i actually have no idea what the hell are you talking about, you're way too far off on the landscape at the time
narou started as a general fiction site, fanfics and all, they didn't ban fanfics until like the mid 00s and even then everyone saw it coming because the site was getting too big, and at that point people were "scrubbing off the serial numbers" so to speak and changing their fics to be original settings long before the big purge
what was mainstream at the time also had almost no influence on the deranged weirdos writing these fics either, the only way shit like rayearth has any similarities to wns at the time is squinting to the point you're comparing apples to tomatoes, and by then you're saying any story with a black haired protag is literally identical
the "ancestry" as you put it is instead most shit being either touhou fanfics, kiseki/tales of/star ocean/phantasy star/literal eroge, or just a random assortment of jrpgs like disgaea and SMT basically
how can you tell this is very easy, because those things were used as the modern foundations for what the massive autistic fuckery we have today, and to be less vague, from touhou you got faith as power (and the isekai aspect), from jrpgs/dungeon crawlers and eroge for autistic weirdos you got magitech, magic systems, and the worldbuilding, take any LN today and if the author isn't a normalfag with a "this is what the animes are amirite?" attitude then you can spot DNA from all three aspects, and honestly it spills out even to normaloid authors like overlord's and hell mode's because "everyone does it"
also estelle from sky may or may not be the cause of a lot of CF trauma
meanwhile compare to older stuff someone that only knows anime thinks is the originator of all of this like rayearth or escaflowne, etc, and they only have these elements as happenstance if you're lucky
then go back to something like arifureta and it's basically an eushully game in novel format with extra steps and a lot of aspects from other shit sprinkled in, the author is not subtle about that either, he can't wink and nod harder than he already is
once you learn japanese you can spot how a lot of novels from the 00s era after narou killed blog webnovels and fanfics are just jrpg fics with the serial numbers scrubbed off like i said, and that's how you spot ZnT didn't spawn off anything, that MC and FMC dynamic is something you rarely see on other shit despite being core to ZnT, and if it really was a progenitor of anything then you would see those core aspects far more often
instead kiseki kicked off the entire military academy genre, or battle harems for ironic weebs, to the point even recent novels today still follow that format like kuromaku ni tensei, now THAT's some real show of influence

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 06:25:14 2023 No.44661707 One thing I like about these 'tism hours is the free recs "everyone" knows so nobody mentions when asked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 07:51:29 2023 No.44662327 >>44661602 can you show me on this doll anon where the bad normalfag touched you while asking if this is what the animes were like

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 08:03:55 2023 No.44662425 >>44662327 Why there's always someone defending normalfags? It's so weird.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 08:05:47 2023 No.44662450 >>44662425 probably because they are one and feel called out

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 08:10:24 2023 No.44662481 >>44662425 it's just weird the level of vitriol anon has to go out of their way to always bitch about "animes" instead of just calling them normalfags and casuals and secondaries like any other posters, that's all

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 08:12:45 2023 No.44662500 >>44662481 funny because last time i called them normalfags and casuals people got pissy about that too and i say that people because i don't want to assume it was you because that would be even dumber

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 08:23:12 2023 No.44662590 >>44662500 i don't care about posers being called casuals, i just think creating imaginary puppets who claim to be experts on the eroges and the animes is a strange level of seethe

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 08:30:07 2023 No.44662647 >>44662590 i don't know anon, at that point it seems you're either projecting or feel called out, if not both

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 08:36:24 2023 No.44662681 File: 40 KB, 600x600, whatevs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44662647 just legitimately think it's strange, given that nobody has said animes since the 90s.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 08:38:06 2023 No.44662693 >>44662681 disclaimer: people have said animes, but primarily in the context of this being just like my japanese animes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 08:40:54 2023 No.44662718 For me it's the anymays and isekais.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 08:43:51 2023 No.44662743 >>44661602 If coldsteel hedgeheg is be the originator of military academy harems then from where does the multinational academy for foreign nobility come?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 08:50:52 2023 No.44662803 >>44662743 Isn't that the obvious next step from the whole Class VII thing? Also I don't see that sort of thing often, what feels far more common is every country having it's own academy so they can have multinational tournaments.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:12:05 2023 No.44668267

Oh thank god, the next 幼女戦記 volume is supposed to be announced at the end of the month so I won't be waiting years again. Volume 13 was basically like one giant setup and was enjoyable but the 下 part is clearly where the fun is going to begin. Tanya's plan of faking an order from Zettour to move the entire eastern front is pretty madman tier. I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 00:45:45 2023 No.44670771 does anybody have danmachi vol 19? normally there'd be something up for a series as popular as it is

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 10:08:49 2023 No.44673671 >>44670771 it's been just 2 days since release so probably not

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 17:45:40 2023 No.44678054 I have a bookshelf full of physicals that I never read because I don't want to crease the spine. I also have X-ray vision and can see through the jacket

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 01:09:50 2023 No.44681673 >>44681668 >>44681668 >>44681668

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