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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels. Discussion of translated visual novels (including MTL) belongs in >>>/vg//vn/

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished?

>> No.44178687

A sanafag actually made a thread? I'm in shock.

>> No.44178734

Sana a shit

>> No.44178770
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I have got to read more stuff with her VA. She is fucking killing it in the new Hulotte.

>> No.44178783

AAA SANA

>> No.44178791

>>44178770
Is she worth reading the VN for? She's the only design I like

>> No.44178793

This sana meme is extremely reddit. I'm going to have to ask you to leave and go to https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/

>> No.44178802

>>44178770
Looks rapeable

>> No.44178829
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>>44178791
I'm pretty excited to read blue hair's and black hair's route. Pink+blue is alright and I definitely want more of her H-scenes. In terms of the VN itself, still hard to say. I'm making slow progress because every heroine has a masturbation scene in the common route and I keep fapping to them.

>> No.44178837

>>44178793
It's not so much a meme as one mentally ill schizo ritualposting for months

>> No.44178847

>>44178802
takes one to know one

>> No.44178869

>>44178829
So a typical Hulottege.

>> No.44178872

>>44178829
looking forward to the day the multi colored hair pandemic ends

>> No.44178879

>>44178793
Yeah I don't even know what is the difference between here and /vn/

>> No.44178882

>>44178869
Yeah, it isn't exceptional so far. At least the magic gimmick in this one is being used more appropriately.

>> No.44178888

>>44178829
Sounds like something I'd be super into. I keep hoping for solo masturbation scenes in stuff I read and they never come.

>> No.44178898

Threads have been going pretty fast lately

>> No.44178902

>>44178888
It's in all of their games.

>> No.44178911
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>>44178902
There was only one in Atropos.

>> No.44178915

>>44178829
>every heroine has a masturbation scene in the common route
So they're all impure whores I see

>> No.44178933
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>>44178915
Especially Koume. Girl is an experienced masturbator.

>> No.44178944

>>44178888
New Lump of Sugar has that too, though not sure yet if it's all the girls. And it's not in the common route.

>> No.44178959 [DELETED] 

>>44178933
>>44178911
She should've been the OP... It's not fair...

>> No.44179293 [DELETED] 

>>44178829
>every heroine has a masturbation scene in the common route
Picked up.

>> No.44179342

>>44179293
That's just hulotte in general.

>> No.44179466
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I'm enjoying the new ensemble game so far - it's pretty much like every other ensemble game, the knight dueling element is ripped pretty much straight from Secret Agent - but one part I find quite odd is that the VN establishes twenty minutes in MC is stronger than every other student at the school by having him easily beat the #1 fighter. Then it spends a lot of time on fight drama despite already clearly establishing nobody else in the school is in MC's league. Except for maybe the one girl who's hiding her powerlevel.. Just a bit of an odd choice to spend so much time on fight scenes when they've clearly established MC's better than everyone right from the start. Maybe the routes will come up with very complicated reasons why he isn't actually the best.

>> No.44179539

>>44179466
Why would you read Secret Agent, I didn't realise anyone cared about their non-josou games

>> No.44179559
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>>44179539
I was curious what a non-josou ensemble game would be like. It wasn't great. The
>stupid honorable knights, chivalry is dumb, *teleports behind you and stabs you in the back*
MC was pretty fun I guess

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>>44179559
The new ensemble's game setting is from Otokana, they directly reference it a bunch of times. I was wondering if there were other references to other ensemble games, let me know if you spot any

>> No.44179662

>>44179624
Is Arianrhod a school in one of the other ensemble games? They reference it a bunch of times.
There's a scene early on where they namedrop like six or seven different schools in a row, so I assume they're all other ensemble games.

>> No.44179860

Did anyone read the Hapymaher remake? Is the new scenario any good or can I just play the original? I dislike the new sprites.

>> No.44179864

>>44179624
>>44179662
>all those high class lady knights jockeying for position over Aryan Rod
guhehe

>> No.44179898

>>44179864
I'll read any game with high class lady knight heroines. It's a dying genre. Odd, since Saber is the most popular heroine of all time.

>> No.44180117

>>44179898
all the good genres are dying these days. only to be replaced by what, chuubas? gyaru-lites? what's all the rage these days, anyway

>> No.44180138

>>44180117
Despite how much people complain about it, there really aren't many vtuber heroines either. Far less than idol heroines in the mid 200s and 2010s.

>> No.44180185

>>44180138
honestly i only threw that in because i'm struggling to think of any new archetypes
then again i don't read a lot of current stuff

>> No.44180204

>>44180117
>>44180185
I can't think of any trend dominating VNs the way medieval fantasy isekai is dominating LNs.

>> No.44180215

>>44180204
That's not a bad thing desu

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>>44179860
You're fine with the original. The new stuff is just extra endings for each heroine that's only unlocked in the FD and female MC having a voice now.

>> No.44180538

>>44180272
Isn't the heroine on the left one not drawn by koku? Because those are koku eyes. It would explain why the new sprites are so ugly if koku redrew everything and the other artist got dumped.

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>>44180538
That heroine is uglier drawn by her real artist desu

>> No.44180582

>>44180538
I will not hear slander of Koku. He's the only artist who can draw big meaty pussies just right.

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>>44180538
All non H-CGs got reworked along with the sprites

>> No.44180671

>>44180651
Which one is the new one? The one with the bigger face is better.

>> No.44180743

>>44180563
Yes that's her. She's drawn by the Tsukimori guy. He used to be good until a few years ago. The redraw still looks like Tsukimori but the CG >>44180272 is drawn by koku. Someone once told me a theory that koku drew all CGs/bodies and Tsukimori only added his faces. The new Hapymaher sprites made me think Tsukimori tried to draw his heroines closer to koku's style but that CG is not Tsukimori at all.

>>44180651
That's worse than I thought.

>> No.44180770

>>44180582
>He's the only artist who can draw big meaty pussies just right
Otherwise known as cocks. So that's why he calls himself koku or COQ.

>> No.44180902 [DELETED] 

>>44180671
>Which one is the new one?
The smaller face

>> No.44180904

>>44180651
kokuface is cancer. But when he is not in charge you get total garbage like criminal border art/designs, you can't win with purple kusoftware.

>> No.44180927

>>44180902
But the smaller face doesn't look like Koku's art at all

>> No.44180932
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>>44180904
What's wrong with CB designs and art?
Is it just that Hina's pleasingly plump?

>> No.44180935

>>44180902
>>44180927
Misread, thought you asked which was the original

>> No.44180950

>>44180932
Far left is okay but middle is too fat too

>> No.44180971

>>44180935
Then that new CG is a massive improvement, she looks retarded in the original

>> No.44180973

>>44180932
It fits the tone of the game but I wouldn't prefer it for any of the others

>> No.44180998

>>44180904
I don't like the Criminal Border art either but it's not complete trash. If the designs got cleaned up a bit with nicer notNTR colors they'd be good.
Purple Software with koku and Tsukimori looked good until Hapymaher (first release). Since then Purple Software turned to shit and koku even reuses his own CGs. Kunado finally brought in someone other than koku but wasn't too good and the colors were muddy.

>> No.44181000

>>44180904
criminal art is beautiful

>> No.44181013
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>>44180973
True, but I wouldn't say
>this artstyle fits the game it's in
>but it wouldn't fit a different game!
Is a criticism of the art. If the next purplesoftge has this guy's artstyle, then we'll see, but I think CB seems to be a side project that none of the main staff are working on.
>>44180998
>notNTR colors
What the fuck are NTR colors supposed to be? Please explain, and visual examples would be appreciated.

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>>44180932
>those shadows

>> No.44181050

>>44181036
I turned shadow resolution down in the settings when I started the game so it would lock 60

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>>44180904
I thought the Kunado artist did pretty good, would definitely make a better secondary artist than Tsukimori

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>>44181013
I hereby declare red to be an NTR color!

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>>44181066
I think both Koku and the new artist are good, but it's too obvious who did which characters when they're lined up and it's a bit distracting to see multiple characters on-screen obviously from different artists.

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>>44181013
>NTR colors supposed to be?
Unpleasant colors with ugly contrast. This pic has pleasant colors and is the opposite of NTR colors. CB has colors that make me think there's NTR lurking around the fat girl corner.

>> No.44181139
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>NTR colors
???

>> No.44181147

>>44181123
Why can't NTR games be cute like this?

>> No.44181181

>>44181147
Cute NTR is a forbidden fruit like imouto NTR.

>>44181139
She's either a villain, a bitch or she sucks unpleasantly colored koku.

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>>44181123
>Unpleasant colors with ugly contrast.
>>44181147
>Why can't NTR games be cute like this?

>> No.44181203

>>44180932
Horrible designs, the morbid fat is the worst easily. Guess Koku is not that bad when compared to those side by side.

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>>44181181
She's all three, and if she doesn't get some kind of fandisc, mini-route or at least an h-scene I'll riot.

>> No.44181240

>>44181204
If she doesn't get an a route and h-scenes its only because they ran out of budget and couldn't complete the project properly

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>>44181112
Yeah it's difficult to find an artist close enough to match the same style like the way Yuzusoft artists do.

>> No.44181288
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I love yuzuart!

>> No.44181448

>>44181188
Jibril is not NTR. It's a pure love kamige.

>>44181204
The other pic looked like she had small breasts. I'm disappointed. I loved villainous flatties.

>> No.44181454

>>44181188
Djibril is unironically the only good NTR game, i don't know why the others all suck so much

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>>44181448
Only if you count pure love between a pink slut and her freakish mascot buddy.

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>>44181468
>freakish mascot buddy
The purest form of love.

>> No.44181661

I think CB art -style- is alright
The rendering though
Amateur as fuck
Maybe it can be saved by the magical rendering team in Silky's, for example

>> No.44181748

>>44181661
>Maybe it can be saved by the magical rendering team in Silky's, for example
Unpopular opinion: I don't like their rendering as you call it. I think it's overtuned.

>> No.44181799

>>44181661
>>44181748
What is rendering in this context? I've only heard it applied to actual animation.

>> No.44181905

>>44181799
I'd say colors, shading, filters. I like the Silky's character art except for the ugly small eyed or droopy eyed thick lipped hags. The CGs are hot but they all look like there's too many filters on it to give it depth. I'd tune that down a bit. Akeiro's Velvet has a CG so overtuned it looks like traced and filtered cheese pizza. Even loli nukige don't invoke that level of discomfort in me.

>> No.44182129

>>44178665
SANABROS, WE'VE WON!

>> No.44182145

Filipinos, when can we be in an eroge?

>> No.44182165

>>44178829
For me, it's the frog. Will she relive the Chris from Majikoi experience?

>> No.44182179

/jav/

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>>44181112
> it's a bit distracting to see multiple characters on-screen obviously from different artists.
I like this sort of thing, but it's jarring when a heroine is drawn by a different artist during a CG

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What do you all think of Tsurumiku's artist?

>> No.44182304

>>44182295
ugly

>> No.44182329

>>44182304
Tough crowd.

>> No.44182344

>>44182295
They all look like men dressed as girls

>> No.44182378

>>44182295
I like it. The Osaka game's been on my list for a long time.

>> No.44182381

Okay, fags. Post the objectively best eroge art out there. It better be the ultimate, non-debatable masterpiece to surpass Da Vinci, Raphael, Michelangelo, Donatello etc.

>> No.44182425

>>44182381
I don't rank art.

>> No.44182524
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For me, it's Kiriha's melted faces

>> No.44182552

>>44178665
Congrats to Sana for finally making it.

>> No.44182648

>>44182381
KKK

>> No.44182659

>>44182381
Needing VNs to have good art is a weakness. Visuals only hold visual novels back.

>> No.44182711

>>44182381
Objective is defined by the majority and we all know this isn't going to point to anything close to the ultimate artstyle. There is no such thing.

I think it's a good example, so look at top AI art. You have soulless NPCs out there regarding it as the best thing they've ever seen, but anyone with a bit of sensibility in them knows it doesn't compare to man-made art. The reason for that is that humans will always further connect with something they regard as imperfect as it makes it possible to truly empathize with it.
You can superpose the same logic with artists who specialize in popular art styles (which these AI are based on speaking of which) and constantly try their hardest at hitting the top Pixiv ranking and whatnot. Sure they look very nice, are objectively popular and liked by many, but they often lack the warmth a lot of lesser known artists have.

By trying to be read by anyone, you inevitably end up losing nuances in the process. By trying to be everyone, you end up being no one.

>> No.44182738

>>44182711
That's a bad analogy because even the best AI art is far from perfect, the models are all riddled with errors.

>> No.44182761

>>44182738
I said top AI art. Plenty of AI artworks out there where you can hardly spot problems, especially if the person behind took 5min to fix them up. Besides you could've just ignored this line and read the one below to get the same point made. If you don't get it, that's on you. Analogy stands.

>> No.44182786

>>44182711
what that ends up boiling down into is
>what artist makes your favorite kind of imperfections
and i rather like that interpretation

>> No.44183068

>>44182524
i like these

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>>44182648
Based and G-Yuusuke-pilled

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>>44182381
Seriously though, Chuuou Higashiguchi is the best thing that ever happened in the eroge history
There is simply no one who can make more badass men than him
He is the one who inspired the whole cool dudes fighting genre back in the days

>> No.44183647

>>44183544
What's he up to now?

>> No.44183701

>>44183647
I see him being assistant for Tsukihime so i guess he is still alive at least

>> No.44183763

>>44183544
I prefer the original art for the gynoids. Something about their eyes.

>> No.44183907

>>44183647
https://twitter.com/chuo_h/status/1622899447029170177

>> No.44183946

>>44182381
Dunno about "objective best" but I like Ooyari Ashito's stuff a lot.

>> No.44183974

>>44183946
reading rondo leaflet at the moment, it's really nice

>> No.44184001

>>44183175
>>44182648
I've always been drawn to the art and have had it on my wishlist forever. Is it really as hard to read as its reputation suggests?

>> No.44184019

>>44184001
The hardest part about it is reading dies irae
If you can finish dies you will have no issues with it

>> No.44184048

>>44184019
Is that necessary? vndb only lists it as 'same setting'.

>> No.44184059

>>44184048
it's quite literally a sequel, i dont know why they went with same setting

>> No.44184130

>>44183907
>doing dinos
Based, but why tho?

>> No.44184173

>>44183946
Can't really get behind his art. Maybe because his subject matter isn't my style.

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>> No.44185044

>>44182648
This. It was G-Yuusuke's peak for sure.

>> No.44185324

ご注文の受付は停止中です
damn...

>> No.44185405

I can't take it anymore. I need new imouto game. Please somebody...

>> No.44185426

>>44185405
There are two imouto games coming out in October. You'll live.

>> No.44185518

>>44185426
The fake imouto aikotoba? What's the other one?

>> No.44185541

>>44185426
>NBR
WHO THE HELL CARES NIGGERS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.44185556

>>44185518
Imouto to Kanojo

>> No.44185563 [DELETED] 

>>44185426
Aikotoba and what's the other one?

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>>44185426
nigger.

>> No.44185607

>>44185565
I hate surprise NBR

>> No.44185627

>>44185607
That hasn't happened for at least 15 years.

>> No.44185778

>>44185563
https://vndb.org/v31003

>> No.44185807

>>44185607
I actually like surprise incest, which is much more rare

>> No.44185808

>>44184001
The most difficult bits are the Kojiki snippets and I recall those getting modern translations within the intro.
>>44185044
It really is crazy how badly Senshinkan regressed in that regard. Ayumi's H-scenes were the first I got in both Bansenjin and Hachimyoujin, and those were really wonky.

>> No.44185835

>>44185778
I already shamefully deleted my post after I saw the question was asked and answered right before my post, but thanks.

>> No.44186018

Anyone kind enough to share おねショタおね?

>> No.44186061

Anywhere I can get a version of Shizuku that isn't the remake?

>> No.44186094

>>44186061
It's extremely unintuitive but actually what you do is download the 2009 remake of Kizuato. It comes with literally everything including the original version of Shizuku.

>> No.44186172

>>44186061
the kobe pc98 pack has it

>> No.44186197

>>44186094
>>44186172
Thanks. I've been wanting to play that for a while but am against playing remakes on my first read

>> No.44186239

>>44186094
Does it come on the disk or is it a separate program, will this torrent have it?
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3007069

>> No.44186255

>>44186239
It's a part of the disc. The setup will give you the option to install the other games too.

>> No.44186268

>>44186255
Cool, thanks for the tip anon.

>> No.44186382

>>44180932
>We want the american audience

>> No.44186552

I haven't read a new VN in awhile. Are they still compatible with W7 even if they don't "support" them anymore?

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https://vndb.org/v1432
how the fuck do i run this game? the crack provided by hsuki doesn't work, and neither does alpharomdie

>> No.44186580

>>44186561
Have you tried doing what that error message tells you?

>> No.44186597

>>44186580
yes i fucking did, multiple times
i even installed it in another folder other than the default one

>> No.44186614

>>44186552
eroge devs rarely use any APIs that aren't supported by W7 so they usually still work.

>> No.44186618

>>44186597
how about the usual just copying stuff from the disk instead of installing it?

>> No.44186633

>>44186614
>rarely
Any VN's that have?

>> No.44186649

>>44186633
The more recent muv-luv steam releases I believe.

>> No.44186700

>>44186633
Anything western-based (Unity, Javascript, RenPy) will be the first to break on Win7 most definitely.
There's some third-rate kusoengine that imports WinAPI time-related function with high precision that doesn't exist in W7, but a lower precision func does, so you can patch the exe to import the latter and make it work, although this will cost you transitions (like text fading in).

>> No.44186721

>>44186618
oh my god i fucking got it working
looks like the fix was to first crack it, then put it in vista compatibility mode, then use locale emulator to run the exe
i hate siglus engine
i don't know if manually copying everything from disc helped me fix it, but thank you anyway

>> No.44186723

At this point, I would start using a VM for W7. It's getting more untenable to be a main OS as the years go by.

>> No.44186734

>>44186700
Oh, found it. It's this trash
https://vndb.org/p9455
It tries to import GetSystemTimePreciseAsFileTime and you must patch it to import GetSystemTimeAsFileTime on Win7 instead.

>> No.44186736

>>44186723
Or just take the GNU pill and use wine

>> No.44186745

>>44186633
Eushully, starting from Grasesta iirc

>> No.44186772

>>44186745
Damn, and I was planning on trying out Amayui after I heard they're starting to course correct themselves.

>> No.44186860
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I feel like none of these are correct.

>> No.44186914

>>44186860
Time it yourself and add an accurate one

>> No.44186947

>>44186860
Someone should create a system which extracts audio files from a game, times them, adds some correction value for text without audio, and spits out true game length.
It would be so valuable, no matter if it will be on vndb or some outside page.

>> No.44187007

>>44186947
The most accurate way would be just put game on auto on average speed and let it play in the background
Wish more devs would share auto length data, would make life a million time easier for literally everyone

>> No.44187230

>>44187007
That would get messed up by choices, true routes, and stuff.
Audio or text metric should capture all routes faster and easier than that.

>> No.44187459

>>44186947
Too much work, literally just extract the text and give us text length, otherwise go back to the "short medium long" they had before that joke.

>> No.44187505

>>44186947
Text length + audio length would be good since some people listen to all voices and others don't. You can go by whichever one applies to you then.

>> No.44187539

>>44186860
Isn't that why they can vote how much of a speed reader they think they are? Some people naturally read faster/slower than others

>> No.44187618

>>44187539
>same time as egs
>slow
you can instantly tell that the dude is unable to measure his abilities

>> No.44187626

>>44187618
He's just humble

>> No.44187638

>>44187626
I only trust the time ratings that specifically say they were measured with a tool. People are horrible at estimating the time it took them to do something if it's spread over the course of weeks/months.

>> No.44187642

belly punching is so underatted

>> No.44187651

>>44187642
腹パン!

>> No.44187663

>>44187539
>>44187618
Most people are naturally bad at estimating time so you have to actually time yourself. But even among people who use timers I've seen some speedreaders who based on their times must be clicking instantly once a line shows up, never listening to any voices or slowing down to have some water/food/etc. Or maybe they're just skipping H-scenes. Seems like a boring way to read.

>> No.44187690

>>44186860
It really should just be lines and audio time. Maybe have some feature to quickly compare a given novel with those on your read list.

>> No.44187691

Anyone here read Shoin https://vndb.org/v4372?
Japs keep praising it as old kamige to justify the 100k yen they spent on it but after jisatsu101 i'm not buying on this anymore

>> No.44187718

>>44187691
Not worth the high price so pirate it but it's pretty fun, it's one of those multi-route mystery VNs that should be played without a walkthrough. One side of the story is kind of dumb but I enjoyed it overall.

>> No.44187722

>>44187691
It's on sale for 24 and up on the sekrit club

>> No.44187767

I don't think I'm ever gonna time myself, VN is supposed to be an enjoyable experience not a competition. It's not rare for me to sometimes re-read lines and daydream/immerse into what's being said during notable scenes. The idea that I have to hit a timer whenever I'm in and out of it feels constricting.
I'd rather script length and other data become a norm, though I'm grateful for those guys who make believable and thorough breakdowns for each route over vndb.

>> No.44187815

>>44187767
Just download activity watch and forget about it, it will just track all your time on the background without needing to even think about it
Then after finishing you can just check how much it took you to finish, and then you can put in some comments if you spent extra time on rereading lines or daydreaming so people who do the same would get useful info out of that
I always point out which parts i speedread through or which routes i skipped so the people who aim for the same girls as me could see how long it would take for them to do it

>> No.44187835

>>44187767
I understand you so much. I love rereading various lines and even whole scenes. I even often reread considerable parts of common route when I start a new route.
But I also can't help it but feel a kind of inferiority complex for being such a slow reader compared to other people.

>> No.44187844

>>44186745
Where are you getting that information?
>Grasesta
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game_support_platform.php?game=26907 ???
>Amayui 2
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game_support_platform.php?game=30359 ????

Just because specs don't mention Windows 7/8.1 or they say requires 10/11 doesn't mean it won't run on 7/8.1. Steam releases for example have default Minimum specs that publishers copy-paste and most of the games will run on older Windows. They just don't want you to use them.

>> No.44187863

>>44187835
You shouldn't, you're probably absorbing and comprehending a lot more of the story compared to speedreaders

>> No.44187890

>>44187007
>auto on average speed
Default auto speed is often slow as fuck and they're not standardized. That's a bad measure of time. Length of all voice files is better but only to get a minimum. Anyone who has times lower than voice length times 1.35 skips voices and should be shadow banned.

>> No.44187891

>>44187767
>>44187835
Same, my reading speed itself seems to be decently fast but I always reread scenes I like or stop and think about or imagine things. I do use a time tracker just for my own reference though (mostly to avoid spending too much time on stuff like 4chan).

>> No.44187941

>>44187815
>activity watch
I'll try that out for my next VN, thanks.

>> No.44187950

Is the new Hulotte the only one other than With Ribbon that doesn't have a sister route, not even NTR one?

>> No.44187956

>>44187950
NBR. I meant NBR.

>> No.44187965

>>44187950
>>44187956
kek

>> No.44187970

>>44187950
>>44187956
Imouto NTR is probably one of the nastiest things you could have in a VN

>> No.44187979

>>44187970
Imouto netorase is worse.

>> No.44187981

>>44187950
Yeah, the new Hulotte has no sister route at all.

>> No.44187987

>>44187970
Every vn with imouto without route is ntr

>> No.44188001

>>44187987
Imoutos without routes will stay eternal virgins for you always

>> No.44188010

>imouto is full BR
>wants oniichan's dick
>oniichan is a moralfag and resists despite wanting her as well
>imouto films herself fucking other men for oniichan to use as jerk off material
And they all lived happily ever after.

>> No.44188023

>>44188010
Onii-chan's a faggot
I'd read that though

>> No.44188039
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>>44188010
If she made the featureless NTR guys wear a paper bag with onii-chan's face on it, it'd actually be hilarious.

>> No.44188060

Any games where you get to kill the imouto that ntr'd you?

>> No.44188068

An oniichan is walking by a river with his NBR deredere imouto and she falls in.
The Goddess of River appears before him and presents him with two girls.
One is a full BR tsundere imouto, the other a full BR kuudere imouto.
When asked which one he dropped oniichan states "neither".
Impressed with his honesty the Goddess returns his NBR imouto and gifts him the two BR imoutos.
And they all lived happily ever after.

>> No.44188080

>>44188068
what if i pick the Goddess?

>> No.44188088

>>44188080
Sorry, the studio had to cut the Goddess route due to budget constraints. You'll be pleased to know she'll be featured in their upcoming gacha game though.

>> No.44188098

NBR is basically NTR because they rob us of the incest route.

>> No.44188145

>>44188010
I know that doujin

>> No.44188168

What actually good loli routes have you read recently? (only real flat counts)

>> No.44188197

>>44188168
>recently
none
>then at least the last one you read
I can't remember it's been too long

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>>44188168
does it count when every route is a loli route?

>> No.44188236

>>44188225
kys hata

>> No.44188270

>>44188225
Those are almost never good
Source: have read all of them

>> No.44188280

>>44188098
>>44188270
What are the good exceptions

>> No.44188283
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>>44188270

>> No.44188300
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44188300

Nice

>> No.44188312

>>44188280
Onikiss is probably the closest to the moege you can find that doesn't feel like straight up cheap nukige
And Gusha no Kyouben i guess as an exception with some actual story

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>>44188300
nice

>> No.44188511

Did anyone use the patch for Noshoujo?
It tells me to download it each time i open the game but when i try to install the patch it says successfully installed and nothing happens, still 1.00 version

>> No.44188545

>>44188511
Mine is 1.02. I don't remember the patching process.

>> No.44188572

>>44188545
Nvm the answer was as always on vndb, it doesn't work if you change the name of the game folder (which is named k02files for ??? reason)

>> No.44188624
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>>44188572
It's something like an internal product code. ネムれる園の少女たち's files are in the sub folder k01files. 小女ラムネ's files are in t07files. Most of them don't have sub folders but they use the codes for the scripts.

>> No.44188654

>>44188624
Btw do you use guide for it? It says that the first route is locked to bad (is it common bad or heroine's bad?)
Since it says to do Aoi first 2 times but i want to start from Kotori

>> No.44188778

>>44188654
I don't remember route locks. If you reject your desires you get the bad end. Seiya Saiga says the bad end is forced but I don't see anything about forced route order. It's just how they and I too went through. Follow until ◆セーブ01 then use the 愛宮 琴莉 guide.

>> No.44188832

>>44188312
Onikiss doesn't have NBR, NTR, or all loli. I don't know what you were smoking when you replied to that.

>> No.44188861

>>44188654
Common bad, then free choice.

>> No.44188899

>>44188832
Maybe he thought they're half siblings because of the different hair colors and the absentee father? My own theory though physically impossible is that MC is their brother and dad.

>> No.44189036

>>44188899
He's only a year or two older than Asahi, so that's a good fanfic.

>> No.44189132

>>44189036
The mom's a semen demon of eternal youth. She conceived MC with her previous hubby who left to buy cigarettes. When MC enters puberty she drains his semen and makes Asahi. The drain process erases MC's recent memory and slows his growth process. She repeated this 3 more times to make the other sisters. Every draining is less effective to stunt MC's growth and he ends up looking just a year older than Asahi. On the mom route he gets drained a fifth time making another daughtersister. The daughters being 3/4 semen demons inherited the lust which once awakened makes them unstoppable nymphos but they don't have the same powers as their mother. 1 year after the FD's harem end they're all ready to give birth, MC's dad returns with a carton of JPS and asks if his son is winning. He said yes.

>> No.44189156

>>44189132
It was shown she only drains short term memory, but nice try.

>> No.44189186

>>44189156
That's why I said recent memory. All other abilities are obviously not revealed in her route.

>> No.44189274
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>>44188832
nor is it all that good. SSS and hamham is where it's at

>> No.44189298

>>44189274
Hamham are oppai traitors.

>> No.44189365

>>44188283
Hey this isn't reddit, post your cringe 3DPD reaction images elsewhere thanks.

>> No.44189386

I feel like a race traitor every time loli comes up because I just can't into it.
Breaks my heart every time someone disparages hags with big asses too.

>> No.44189463

>>44189386
I still refuse to believe that someone can actually get hard on fat hags asses, it breaks my whole worldview

>> No.44189620

>>44189386
Relax, you're normal.

>> No.44189638

>>44189620
Are you lost?

>> No.44189724

>>44189620
T-thanks bro...

>> No.44189747

Why chuuni girls are so rare? It's so hot when they are trying their best to act even during h scenes

>> No.44189828
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>>44189747
new hulotte has one?

>> No.44189854

>>44189274
Ham Ham's last good game was in 2018.

>> No.44189859

>>44189828
she looks autistic

>> No.44189865

>>44189859
she is chuuni, yes

>> No.44189889

>>44189638
I'm a lolicon.

>> No.44189921

>>44189828
sex eyes

>> No.44190006

>>44189828
This hairstyle is cuter than the one in her uniform sprite.

>> No.44190024
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44190024

Agreed. I don't like her ribbons.

>> No.44190033

>>44190024
meant for >>44190006

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>> No.44190186

>>44190161
But how are you supposed to know the heart mark is there if you're just hearing the line and not seeing it?

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>> No.44190241

>>44190211
wow I didn't know I was featured in a game

>> No.44190249

>>44190186
Intonation.

>> No.44190294

>>44190161
This girl is just my type. THE imouto

>> No.44190325

Is there any script like vndb cover preview for egs that would show posters with mousehold? It's so much annoying having to open all the stuff in th new tab to check what is it

>> No.44190425

my brothers please give me recomendation for a nukige or even an eroge for someone who has 2k vocabulary?

>> No.44190457

>>44190425
https://vndb.org/v/rand

>> No.44190462

>>44190425
KKK

>> No.44190470

>>44190425
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/

>> No.44190477

>>44190425
信天翁航海録

>> No.44190475

>>44190457
>tried 5 times
>each time got some english gay furi
the state of vndb

>> No.44190489 [DELETED] 

>>44190462
>>44190457
plase bros i need good vn i tried reading some but they were so hard i couldnt read it so then i got sad and i gave up but now im watching naruto and i realize "i must not do that!!!!!" and then i said to my mom "momma im not giving up" and she was like "uwu" and then she was like here bud heres ur fuckin eroge gawd damn and thats the story of my life.

nukige reccs pls?

>> No.44190490

>>44190475
I think random still takes into account your default filter, so just set it to jap only.

>> No.44190495

>>44190457
This actually looks moderately interesting.
https://vndb.org/v19431

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>>44190495

>> No.44190530

>>44190489
https://vndb.org/v3850

>> No.44190534 [DELETED] 

>>44190477
arrigatto gozayemus arrigato uwu arrigato uwu shikashi senpai this is 64 hours. i think i would not be able to complete this uwu would you happen to know anyhing thats suitable for a first read uwu senpai arrigato

>>44190500
>>44190495
senpai sumimasen keredo i cannot read a vn if it does not give me boner

>> No.44190537

>>44190425
yah dude here you go no kanji no effort needed https://exhentai.org/?f_cats=1007

>> No.44190561

>>44190161
Done. I am happy I waited a full year between reading the base game and the appends. I have to say, the ending of append 5, which is the end of the overall game, is one of the greatest points in imoutoge history. I loved every single moment of this last piece of the story. When Onii-chan was ニヤニヤing and thinking this imouto is the cutest, so was I. It is my game and my imouto.

>> No.44190566 [DELETED] 

>>44190530
arigato senpai arigato gozeaymeus uwu demo this eroge contains futanari. senpai i am a cultured man demo i have standards

>>44190537
arrigatto senpai arrigato gozeayemus i will need to unlock exhentai again and thne i can read this senpai arrigato gozaeuyms

>> No.44190634

>>44190294
I think I understand what was the point of the game. You make seemingly random choices at the start, and it spits out an imouto whose appearance and personality may vary from what's your personal preference, because why the fuck should you have any meaningul say about how she grows up. She's her own person and no matter how she grew up, she's your little sister and you will inevitably grow to love her regardless of how she looks and acts. Sure, there are ideal imoutos in the 2D world, but they are not really YOUR imoutos. The one who was born into your family is. So treasure her.
I picked the gifts at the start of the game without knowing what impact they have. I know people who manipulated the system, faking the birth of their chosen sister. Who went back in time because they were unhappy with the result. But that's not me. That's not how life works. When life gives you imouto, praise the Lord and do everything in your power to make her and in turn yourself happy.

>> No.44190661

>>44190634
I don't like brown haired Chie
So I reroll
Simple as

>> No.44190676

What does change besides her hair and personality? Are the H-scenes any different?

>> No.44190677

>>44190634
>>44190661
So this is like pokemon mystery dungeon where they give you a personality test at the start and then tell you this is the pokemon you're playing for the rest of the game and if it sucks you look up a guide and get the pokemon you want to play as, but with an imouto instead?

>> No.44190689

>>44190677
Yes but she doesn't change that much. Unless you get brown chie.

>> No.44190701

>>44190425
Nekopara is among the easiest. You'll hardly find anything easier.

>> No.44190703

>>44190495
Anyone play this? I added it to my wishlist sometime back but haven't gotten around to it.

>> No.44190710

>>44190677
This game trolls you. You have to choose gifts for her 12 or so birthdays. You can give her mahou shoujo toys, games, dolls etc. trying to mold a cute otaku imouto. But the game says FUCK YOU and makes her into the opposite of your gift choices and creates an imouto who doesn't like you.

>> No.44190723

>>44190710
>creates an imouto who doesn't like you.
Boy, do I have a surprise for you. See, tsundere consists of two phases.

>> No.44190733

>>44190710
Just like real life
Sounds like kamige

>> No.44190745

>>44190723
No shit, but she's not what I tried to raise. That's the point. Gift choices are a trap to make something you don't want. It's best to give her gifts you don't want her to have to get a better Chie.

>> No.44190752

>>44190745
>better Chie
Didn't you fucking read what I just posted

>> No.44190762

>>44190710
>>44190745
>onii-chan tries to mold his sister into the perfect imouto
>it backfires and she grows to hate his guts
Kino and you deserve it. Should just have given her something she'd like

>> No.44190770 [DELETED] 

>>44190701
ARRIGATO GOZAYEMUS ARRIGATO GOZAYRUMS HORY FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK HORY FUCKK BRO THER I CANNOT EXPRESS how hpppy i am now that i have a proper recommendation i mgonna read nekopara uwu uwu arrigato senpai arrigato gozeayrms i will share my progress with you over the next days and i will fuck all the nekos and iut will be excelllent uwu

>> No.44190930
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44190930

I'm not an ensemble expert, I've only read like four games they've made, but have any of the other ones had an extended solo male masturbation h-scene scene where MC's cock and ass take up 30% of the screen real estate and not a single woman appears? It feels like something from a trapge.

>> No.44190941

>>44190930
>It feels like something from a trapge.
Uhhhh

>> No.44190952

>>44190941
I presume he meant like variety that has gay sex.

>> No.44190957

>>44190930
Does Tachibana Mao moan a lot and talk about her chinpo?

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>>44190941
You know what I mean, like a no~strike / nounai kanojo trapge that's about fucking boys up the boyass, not a straight trapge.
>>44190957
Yes.

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>>44190930
Such a kami scene, I love ensemble now

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So is this good or just another single heroine nukige?

>> No.44190993

>>44190973
I accidently looked at the H-CGs to see if the sensei had any h-scenes (she doesn't) and I think I got spoiled on a few things. It looks like there's more to it.

>> No.44191054

ensemble games are gay

>> No.44191056

You know what single heroine VN I'm looking forward to? Ginka. That looks good.

>> No.44191073

>>44190973
The story seems to be good. I don't like K子's non-loli art so I won't read it.

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>>44191054
How's Riri's route? I finished Iyo's last night, and I'm moving on to Claire's, but I'm not too interested in Riri or Akane. Riri does have good faces, though.
>>44191054
What's gay about extended scenes of making MC (male) wear pretty dresses?

>> No.44191166

>>44191084
Boys don't look this this

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>>44191084
I assume you meant to reply to me, Riri route is great I love her relationship with Mimi. It also adds a lot of context to the Mimi/Riri scenes in other routes, if you pay attention to how Riri acts around Iyo and everyone, I definitely think it's worth doing.

>> No.44191208

>>44191201
I'll admit, most of the reason I'm worried about Riri's route is because I really like Mimi and it'll probably just taunt me with the fact she's a routelet.

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Which will they release first? I'd rather they resurrect はるはろ! from the dead

>> No.44191264

>>44187835
If you read VNs for pleasure your reading speed is going to be faster than 99% of non-natives. You should be proud if anything.

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>>44191208
I love Mimi too, apart from the lack of H scenes she's just as important and gets as much screentime as all the heroines desu, I'm pretty happy with how she's treated.
I really like these kind of friend charas who gets along with everyone and is just there to support us

>> No.44191335

>>44190973
Story seems fun, I'm going to read it after I finish some other stuff.

>> No.44191459

Would I enjoy ensemble games if I don’t like traps? I always feel tempted because the heroines are so cute but the trap MCs make me hesitate.

>> No.44191475

>>44191238
Otome Domain

>> No.44191479

>>44191459
Do you like reading games about MC cross-dressing to infiltrate an all-girl's school?

>> No.44191490
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44191490

I'm tired of hearing about this fucking cat.

>> No.44191510

>>44191490
Why do Japanese love talking about this cat?

>> No.44191573

>>44191490
I forgot demonbane had this too kek

>> No.44191598

>>44190930
>>44190959
picked up

>> No.44191600

>>44191510
because cats are cute

>> No.44191636

>>44191510
Because parallel world is the main mechanic of most eroge.

>> No.44191663

>>44191510
Cats are literally me.

>> No.44191698

I have over a 100 VNDB tabs of eroge that I may or may not play in the future.

>> No.44191703

>>44191510
Because of chuunism. It just sounds cool.

>> No.44191711

>>44191459
Unless you actively like generic faceless males more than traps I don't see why you wouldn't like ensemble

>> No.44191717

>>44190930
can you link that CG?

>> No.44191735

>>44190241
You are not macho.

>> No.44191736

>>44191717
https://exhentai.org/s/94dc18e19e/2622888-142

>> No.44191758

>>44191736
Arigatou. I like what I see. Would be even better if he had a small chinpo. Just imagine that. A crossdressing MC cuter than any heroine, all who want him but his dick is small but they still love him.

>> No.44191763

>>44191736
do people really jerk off like that?

>> No.44191769

>>44190689
Is brown the gyaru type? I actually thought she was fun.

>> No.44191786

>>44191769
>>44190689
Wait, you can make her a gyaru?

>> No.44191816

>>44191786
Not in the stereotypical hypercaricature sense. She's more like a faux bimbo.

>> No.44191821

>>44191816
boo

>> No.44191822

https://exhentai.org/s/4e62265cc6/2622888-149
Does he cum over himself there after rubbing against her ass without her noticing? And he's voiced by Tachibana Mao. I want to read this for him. The heroines don't look too interesting though.

>> No.44191823

>>44191763
Ask your local black man.

>> No.44191841

>>44191698
Just make a wishlist on the site.

>> No.44191846

Is it just me or are newer games requiring cracks more and more?

>> No.44191863

>>44191846
Isn't it just softdenchi removal? Not like they have Denuvo. Eroge always needed cracks.

>> No.44191907

>>44191823
I genuinely have no idea what this is suggesting.
Do black people jerk off like that?

>> No.44191930

>>44191736
Hot.

>> No.44191938

>>44191846
Feels like the usual amount to me. Some old companies still use their old frameworks. Some studios don't even care about cracking. None of the new games seem have new types of authentication.

>> No.44191953

>>44191736
Would.

>> No.44191955
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44191955

Yandex reverse search is always fun. I guessed right it was ExE. The CGs are so good I should download it.

>> No.44192026

>>44191907
They have big dicks on average.

>> No.44192034

>>44192026
Akshually that's fake news by the porn industry. They have the same size as everyone not Asian.
Dick size has nothing to do with that fap position though.

>> No.44192043

>>44191955
Yandex image search is very good. It always finds the source for VN screenshots.

>> No.44192046

>>44192034
>same size as everyone not Asian
Sounds like Cuckasian cope.

>> No.44192141

>kinetic single heroine -ge
>Extras in main menu but not clickable
>finish first H-scene
>Extras still locked
I hate devs who do this so much. Just let me look at my spoils. I shouldn't have to finish the whole game to look at a CG I already saw.

>> No.44192151

>>44191955
She's adorable, best part of that game is her route. Worst part is when you can cheat on her. And yeah Yuzu artists have always been great.
>lolicon test do not react
kek

>> No.44192171

>>44192151
>spoiler
I knew it's chuunige but I didn't expect that in Yuzuge.

>> No.44192191

>>44192171
It's just a short mini-route for a side character who I did like but it felt so horrible. They both deserved better.

>> No.44192200

>>44192191
that's kind of hot but it seems like the wrong place/game to do it
...is there a tag for this?

>> No.44192283

play game
get into the first h scene
start a new game
repeat

>> No.44192300

>>44192283
maybe you're like me and you like the chase better than what comes after the catch, in which case all i have to say is, shit sucks

>> No.44192311

>>44192283
>>44192300
Can't even take responsability with a 2D girl? Is commitment that scary?
There's surely something to dig from that behavior, else you'll just stay blocked into that vicious circle without truly experience what's beyond that.

>> No.44192326

>>44192311
i would like to believe this is said in jest and you're not being sanctimonious over porn powerpoint heroines

>> No.44192329

>>44192311
Not them but I understand their and your side. I like starting new games more than finishing one but as a completionist I see them through anyway. A common route is fun because everything is fresh, the chase is fun because there's a goal. But once a route starts many eroge become H marathons and that bores and tires me out. The goal then is getting past the marathon and a dumb drama the writer concocted. The end will be nice but it was tiring. I want routes to be more like common route extensions with some H every other hour. Maybe that's why I like Late Sexual Content eroge.

>> No.44192408

>>44192326
>muh porn powerpoint
Half-jest and half me wanting to see what anons have to say for themselves.

>>44192329
Yeah I do join you on "H marathons" being straining if there's not a counterweight to it. I like to feel like I need "to fight and deserve" the H, as opposed to it coming up right away for free. With that said I feel like the discussion seems to apply moreso to nukige or moege than VNs in generalーor so I hope, because the idea of dropping a story/drama-focused VN after the first scene seems pretty sad to say the least.

>> No.44192473

>>44192408
if we're doing actual discussion then i'd probably have to echo >>44192329 except that i'm not a completionist and if i find myself no longer enjoying a route due to the aforementioned h scene onslaught, i just drop it
the other case is that i prefer genki, assertive, namaiki, etc. types of girls and their routes have a nasty tendency to assassinate that particular character trait, and i've dropped several routes/games purely because i didn't want to see them ruin the girl i like with shitty drama or by flattening her personality

i simply find myself getting bored if it's too easy, which is difficult to type with a straight face considering we're talking eroge that rarely even have more than one choice these days
the easier the girl falls in love and the blander she gets afterwards, the more i find myself completely losing interest, with the only thing left to entice me to keep going is that maybe the porn's good (it usually isn't)
so i pick up something else and tell myself "this time will be different" (it usually isn't)

obviously yes like you said this does not apply to story/drama focused games since there's more keeping me interested

>> No.44192585

>>44192473
Admittedly I haven't read that many moege (despite my backlog being filled with them) because I'd probably end up burning out if I were read those back to back, so I kinda understand where you're coming from.
I consider myself a completionist but the truth is I did drop a few VNs in the past (Nekopara and some loli VN). It's rare though because I think I tend to not pick VNs based on specific girls but based on what the VN is like as a whole. So in the end even my least liked heorine still ends up being an enjoyable experience.

Not sure I explained that well since I'm getting tired. I appreciate you replying.

>> No.44192772

>>44192473
>their routes have a nasty tendency to assassinate that particular character trait
Reminds me of Nagomi from Tsuyokiss, she has cool/cold personality and she has sharp tongue but in her route she leans way too hard on the dere and becomes way too cutesy and dependent. Some people might like the shift but it quite literally killed what attracted me to her in the first place.

>> No.44192979

My life has become so much more enjoyable when i dropped completionism and started reading only flat girls routes
No need to force myself doing anything and it always feels fresh since you don't need to read literally the same thing but with different girl again and again
The worst case scenario is when the ending gets ruined by the huge tits after the time skip, but most of the time i had at least enjoyable experience with the majority of them

>> No.44193280

https://moe-gameaward.com/prize/2022/pink.html
total gyaru love

>> No.44193290

>>44193280
It's funny how it's rigged more and more every year with companies leaving the awards, leading to even more companies leaving.

>> No.44193338

>>44193290
so what's the most unbiased vn awards?

>> No.44193360

>>44193338
Number of sales.

>> No.44193640

>>44193338
getchu probably

>> No.44193845

>250+ new replies
You guys went through an entire thread in a day and a half
Are we getting raided by /v/ again?

>> No.44194100

>>44193845
The threads seem pretty on topic to me so if this is a raid then I don't mind it. I don't think so though because the amount of posters isn't that high, so I think everyone has just been more active, and it creates a kind of cycle of positive reinforcement, if there are more posts then you are more likely to refresh/check the threads more often.

>> No.44194600

>>44194100
Having a few new releases to talk about helps, too.

>> No.44194681

Not gonna lie, the animated sprites in Noshoujo have the best quality i have ever seen so far
Any other games with some really good animations? (ouside of obvious maitetsu)

>> No.44194790

>>44194100
Imagine actually thinking accepting the people that shat up their board is a good thing, you know the quality of posting has gone down when people are trolling outside of /b/ saying they want african heroines in their eroge.

>> No.44194865

>>44194790
i want to hear how japs would try to imitate the african langs

>> No.44194903

>>44194790
I'm saying I don't think it's a raid, if you think one guy (maybe) trolling in the PREVIOUS thread by saying he wants a heroine is such a dramatic drop in quality, then that's a (you) problem. Or you obviously haven't been around the last couple of years with the constant schizo meltdowns over non-issues.

>> No.44194947

>>44194681
Oniichan Daisuki? Basically same company, scenario isn't as good though

>> No.44194948

>>44187844
From my apparently faulty memory. The first Eushully game that broke on Win7 was Conquista, not Grasesta.
https://vndb.org/t13999.23
> I tried to run demo on Win7 and unfortunately indeed it fails with "The procedure entry point MFCreateDXGIDeviceManager could not be located in the dynamic link library MFPlat.DLL" error.

Also, that "third-rate kusoengine" of Calcite isn't actually Unity itself, it's some plugin on top of it (sakanagl.dll; and it's the file which import table must be patched, not the .exe)

>>44193845
>You guys
/vg/ tourists unable to form two sentences in a row you mean?

>> No.44195364

kistune edition

>> No.44195406

Is there some trick to texthooking Unity games, I can't get it to work with the Geminism trial

>> No.44195435

>>44195406
Learn Japanese

>> No.44195475

>>44195435
I struggle with memorizing words and I find that Anki helps a lot.

>> No.44195546

>>44195406
https://github.com/0xDC00/agent

>> No.44195558

>>44194681
Amakano 2 plus

>> No.44195586

>>44195364
Do it

>> No.44195588

>>44195406
Textractor with updated hooking module
https://github.com/Artikash/Textractor/issues/868

>> No.44195621

>>44194681
maitetsu? good animation? lol

>> No.44195713

>>44195435
I get so annoyed when I see people post this shit. You could already read Japanese fluently before reading your first VN? because if so you're fucking stupid for not taking advantage of how good they are as a learning tool. Hooking can be an amazing tool if you use it right, when I started reading VNs 2 years ago I probably wouldn't have been able to pass N5, now I read everything without hooking maybe looking up a word every 5-10 minutes depending on what I'm reading. I get that this isn't textractor tech support general, but this response is so beyond stupid that it just boggles my mind, how did you even learn Japanese if you didn't use these kinds of tools? Did you pay for university classes like some retard or something?

>> No.44195720

You know hasshaku has some really good animations...

>> No.44195783

>>44192283
this is why I only play all ages, nukige or action/RPGs

>> No.44195799

>>44195406
wait for english translation
>>44195713
their dicks are just so small they only can overcompensate with their japanese skill (7th grade jap middle schooler at best)

>> No.44195804

>>44195713
That's just usual boomers who consider themselves superior because they learned through ajatt drawing shit by hand while being silent when you ask them how many years they wasted on that shit

>> No.44195809

>>44195799
Waiting for garbage localization isn't any better than the other responses.

>> No.44195817

>>44195804
no one learns by just drawing, what are you talking about

>> No.44195833

>>44195817
There are a lot of people over there who think they are learning better by drawing kanjis in google translate instead or looking up for radicals

>> No.44195887

>>44195713
>how did you even learn Japanese if you didn't use these kinds of tools?
Just look up a word in the dictionary? All hookcucking is just a shortcut to the dictionary. It's not that amazing.

>> No.44195916

>>44195713
I suspect most people here did learn through VNs or other media (much better method than grinding words in Anki), it's just that it's off-topic and most people using hookers use MTL so they don't want to encourage that kind of discussion.

>> No.44195920

>>44195887
Seriously, if you recognize the kanji it takes 10 seconds to look something up. And if there are any you don't know, you just use radical/stroke order lookup

>> No.44195924

I looked up radical dictionary but can't find anything.

>> No.44195929

>boomers actually use radical lookup
Lol, lmao even.

>> No.44195941

>>44195929
I consider it part of the learning process. Looking things up by hand and manually creating cards for them is free reps. I retain words so much better doing that than I did when I was a hookoid.

>> No.44195943

>>44195920
Or you just hold mouse over the word, create anki card in 1 click and move on without a need to interfere to your immersion

>> No.44196005

>>44195941
when i'm actually immersed while reading some emotional scene there is no fucking way i would just stop to look up some shitty words because it would kill all the mood so i just would pretend instead that i 'know' that word and move on without learning anything out of it as a result

>> No.44196018

>>44195941
Looking up with radicals is good when you're an intermediate who's already done individual kanji studying, but if you're a beginner it just takes too much time you could be spending on reading.

>> No.44196024

The real benefit of not using text hook has nothing to do with lookup time. It's putting yourself in a situation where seeing the definition of the word you're struggling with isn't literally a mouse hover away. You're more likely to use context clues and actually think about what kanji make up the word when that temptation isn't there, which is better for you in the long run.

>> No.44196025

>>44196005
could be avoided if you used proper dictionary tool

>> No.44196032

>>44195887
see >>44196018 I copy pasted words from textractor to jisho, this is at least 10 times faster than radical searching.

>> No.44196044

>>44196024
Kids don't understand this. It's all about instant gratification for them.

>> No.44196048

>>44196024
Again it's a good tool if you use it right as long as you actively try to rely on it less and less.

>> No.44196049

>>44195941
You get free reps just by reading, no need to make or use cards. And it makes no difference in retention whether you look up words slowly or with a mouseover if you actually have a functioning memory.

>> No.44196052

>>44196032
using yomichan is 10 times faster than copypasting to jisho and you can also check multiple dictionaries simultaneously

>> No.44196064

>>44195406
I'm sorry everyone I didn't mean to start all this arguing over texthooking vs manual lookups

>> No.44196066

i don't use mtl because i'm too stupid to set it up

>> No.44196076

>>44196064
update dll, use hook search, apply regex filter to remove garbage

>> No.44196085

>>44196064
What annoyed me is not manual look-ups vs texthooking, it's retards always replying with 'learn Japanese' when someone is new and still learning and dissuading them from reading VNs. It's literally being elitist about learning inefficiently.

>> No.44196089

>>44196076
Do I hook search for the specific words on screen or just "Start hook search"?

>> No.44196097

>>44196052
Isn't that one of those browser addons? I never bothered with those because I find them annoying and prefer to just copy paste.

>> No.44196113

>>44196089
not sure which one did the trick for me, but also try this
Geminism.exe , HQ14+-24@F60C60:GameAssembly.dll , |140711267833011:0:HQ14+-24@F60C60:GameAssembly.dll

>> No.44196114

>>44196024
But how much does it really matter in practice?
I learned by relying on texthooker only and never looked up any radicals and stuff. When I moved to playing normal gamers you can't texthook I had zero issues figuring out anything from context or shit

>> No.44196126

How hard is Geminism for someone who rarely reads chuuni?

>> No.44196141

>>44196064
i'll forgive you but only if you read hasshaku.

>> No.44196151

>>44196085
learn japanese

>> No.44196160

>>44196024
>>44196114
You should be trying to make sense of things before looking them up whether you hook or not.

>> No.44196167

>>44196141
I'm still not sure if hasshaku shill anon was kidding or if there really is something deeper there

>> No.44196190

>>44196097
You can add multiple monolingual dictionaries to it and there are *tons* of words that have proper meanings only in one certain dictionary
I literally can't imagine my life without 実用日本語表現辞典, it has like 90% of the slang words and phrases that you won't find anywhere else

>> No.44196215

>don't do this
>don't do that
MTLers and Dunning Krugers ITT
Pretty sure none of you know Japanese and just pretend you do lmao

>> No.44196221

>djt hour
sigh

>> No.44196249
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44196249

Just feel it out

>> No.44196267

>>44196215
>>44196221
It's almost as if learning Japanese is not a binary but a long process, it's only natural for these kinds of threads that these discussions arise from time to time. It's good to keep have a little push-back against these kinds >>44195435 of excessively gatekeeping dicks, unless you want these threads to die off eventually of course.

>> No.44196274

>>44196024
I already think like that before hovering away regardless.

>> No.44196275

>>44196167
I'd read it but the proportions and tongues are too weird for me.

>> No.44196288

What's the kamige of eroge jrpgs?
Is there anything on the Xenogears level?

>> No.44196341

>>44196288
Would be better for you to go to /hgg2d/ and ask there instead.

>> No.44196382

>>44196341
It's full of cheap rpgmaker nukiges

>> No.44196390

>>44196341
This is a dumb distinction.

>> No.44196398
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>> No.44196418
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44196418

>>44196398

>> No.44196427

>>44196398
what is that font

>> No.44196435

>>44196427
英椎行書

>> No.44196547

For me, it's eating a Japanese person to absorb their knowledge in the runes.

>> No.44196582

Real /hololive/jav/ energy itt.

>> No.44196674

>>44196547
Same. Going through schools, I kept thinking if only I could eat my teachers for their knowledge

>> No.44196682

>今年凄いな
戯画が死んでイリュージョンが死んでHARUKAZEが死んで
有名大手が悉く死んでるじゃん
もうゆずソフト以外どこが死んでも不思議じゃない雰囲気
How can we save eroge bros?

>> No.44196696

>>44196682
HARUKAZE died? What happened to all their announcements?

>> No.44196700

>>44196682
There are more eroge already than you can ever consume, it has been saved long time ago

>> No.44196707

>>44196674
You would need to have all his memories and experience for those knowledge to work and at that point you won't be yourself anymore, anon.

>> No.44196773

>>44196700
I want more

>> No.44196813

>>44196773
Donate to their kickstarters then, it's pretty much the only way left to get something good these days

>> No.44196819

>>44196682
>Giga
Man, I still can't believe it. I started reading VNs when they released Hotch Kiss and I looked forward to a new Kiss every year. I looked away for a moment and they fucking died.

>> No.44196831 [DELETED] 

>>44196682
There is only one way: decouple the global economy from China and revive Japan as a new consumer electronics manufacturing hub. That's the capital which was used to fund eroge development last time around.
Also get the Japanese government to adopt MMT officially and cut the consumption tax to 0%.

>> No.44196842
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44196842

>>44196819
>へgao
picked up

>> No.44196847

>>44196682
I still can't believe Shinki killed Giga. Hope Team Baldrhead at least goes indie.
But the smaller brands seem to be doing relatively well. And with the Visual Arts acquisition Chinese investment might just help the market.

>> No.44196864

>>44196847
When has chinese investment ever helped anything?

>> No.44196877

>>44196864
It's literally the only thing keeping Japan away from a recession right now.

>> No.44196882

>>44196819
>I looked forward to a new Kiss every year
Were you still doing that once they started doing "sequels" and FD of ai kiss every year? Never liked art of those and I stopped giving a fuck

>> No.44196886

>>44196877
I thought Japan's economy has been stagnant for the past 30 years. who cares

>> No.44196896

>>44196831
How do those fix their demographics issue?

>> No.44196907

>>44196886
Yeah, and Chinese would still rather immigrate there than stay in "economically vibrant" China.

>> No.44196911

>>44196696
They didn't. Their website went down for one day like a week ago and everyone started doomposting. It was up again within hours.

>> No.44196914

>>44196886
It has taken a turn for the worse in recent months, especially with the Japanese government getting small businesses into the consumption tax system with the tax receipt law, and with the yen taking a nosedive on FX markets.
Stagnant economy is the reason why eroge companies are going out of business anyway.

>> No.44196944 [DELETED] 

>>44196896
Their demographic issue is overrated, it's literally the same in every developed country out there
Everyone will inevitably be desecrated by the african and indian arbaitos whether you want it or not

>> No.44196949

>>44196914
This sounds like the solution is for the government to stop being retarded, but that's like asking a dog to stop wagging its tail.

>> No.44196956

>>44196882
I'm a basic bitch consoomer, so yeah.

>> No.44196973

Speaking of HARUKAZE, the patches on their server (official website) are dead AND not archived. One/Google/Amazon Drive links still work, but they can't be archived, only saved manually.
https://harukaze-soft.com/support/

>> No.44196996

>>44196896
Demographic issues are directly connected to the economy. Japan was pretty much a pioneer in lean manufacturing designed to cut costs aka "pay people less". To solve demographic issues Japan would have to pay people more, reduce work hours, etc.
Cuts on consumer tax will at least somewhat improve situation with household finances, not much though.
MMT might help depending on how the government invests.

But all those policies will probably meet some labor constraints anyway.
And political challenges in going there are pretty much insurmountable anyway.

>> No.44197037

>>44196973
I wish they actually bothered to add some functionality to preserve the patches on vndb
As of now you have to manually check every game for the patch availability and then getting though archives and shit to actually get them
And this issue will only be getting worse as more sites will be getting down

>> No.44197154 [DELETED] 

>>44196944
>Everyone will inevitably be desecrated by the african and indian arbaitos whether you want it or not
They're going to experience the same demographic crisis and it's worse for them because they have no stable society to fall back to.

>> No.44197157

>>44196682
this zoomer mentality that there has to be endless contentslop to consoom needs to die. we already have enough eroge to last us for the rest of our lives. and it's not like there aren't good games coming out consistently every year.

>> No.44197188

>>44197157
The old stuff'd better be preserved even decades from now so we can play them then. Or will we just have to download everything now?

>> No.44197226

>>44197157
>>44197188
>WE SHOULD STAGNATE!

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>> No.44197236

>>44197226
Who are you quoting?

>> No.44197250

>>44197154
For them to experience demographic crisis they'll have to go through transition to industrial and post-industrial societies. Which means they'll have stable societies or they will not experience demographic crisis (transition).
The whole point is that demographic transition is the consequence of stable industrial societies. Before industrial societies populations pretty much always were limited only by famines and food availability. In the modern world with products of the Haber-Bosch process available everywhere that mechanism no longer works to limit pre-industrial societies in their reproduction.

>> No.44197253

>>44197157
I like eroge as a medium and would like to see it change and evolve over time and see what new people can breathe into it. Even if we have enough to last forever it'll just become a time capsule of the last several decades

>> No.44197329 [DELETED] 

>>44197154
Demographic crisis is directly correlated with population's intellectual abilities so they are more than safe

>> No.44197352

>>44197338
>>44197338

New

>> No.44197448 [DELETED] 

>>44197329
Are you implying because of their collective subhuman IQ that they'll be able to preserve themselves?

>> No.44197494

>>44197448
Meant to type superhuman iq, my bad.

>> No.44197564

Keep off-topic discussion here for now please.

>> No.44197585 [DELETED] 

>>44197448>>44197494
As long as industrially developed world in one way or another provides them with minimal technological necessities to maintain life (medicine, fertilizer, agricultural equipment, food, energy), they'll be more than fine.
And the developed world has not much options anyway. Forcing demographic transition there will require a lot of military interventions, colonizations, and trade thus not likely politically. Forcing famine there will make migration crisis to developed economies even worse. There are no good options thus the status quo continues.

>> No.44197621

>>44197564
>Keep off-topic discussion here for now please.
Just woke up and saw the MTLcuck posts. I thought they died to DeepL's 1500 char limit. Guess not.

>> No.44197735 [DELETED] 

>>44197250
>>44197329
>>44197585
Nothing stays the same, but still we'll face heat death first before the nigs and pajeets become the rulers of the Earth.

>> No.44197751

>>44194790
I'd honestly rather have people talking about african heroines then djtfags shitting up these threads talking about texthookers and shit

>> No.44198182

>>44197751
then?

>> No.44198216

>>44197735
Nuclear war in which China, Russia, Europe, the US destroy each other populations thus leaving the Earth to Indians and Africans is much more likely and plausible than heat death.

>> No.44198217
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>>44198182

>> No.44198252

>>44198216
You are very rude to cockroaches.

>> No.44198765

>>44198252
There are no longer enough powerful nuclear weapons in stockpiles to destroy so much to get to only cockroaches surviving. Those arms control based stockpile cuts after the end of the Cold War have really left a mark. There are only just enough deployed and stockpiled weapons to destroy population centers in the Northern Hemisphere. The Southern Hemisphere won't get affected much beyond some famine and disease.

>> No.44198965

>>44198765
You make it sound like famine and disease aren't population killers.

>> No.44199028

>>44198965
They are but they won't be anywhere near close to necessary level of devastation to prevent the Southern Hemisphere from becoming dominant in a couple decades after that war.
It will be just inevitable that people from there will fill evolutionary niches which will be left by civilizational collapse in the North.

>> No.44199064

>>44199028
The rate of replenishment won't be able to keep up with the death toll. Plus, the loss of labor and knowhow will severely hamper development. A "soft" reset is unlikely.

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