I hate vTubers, I want to talk about this topic.

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I hate vTubers, I want to talk about this topic. Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:17:58 2020 No.31294587 [Reply] [Original]

Reasons :
They are people who hide their own identity and try to be cute probably just to get money from baby simps, like a twitch thot but weeby and worse.

I want to learn if anyone likes them here and I wonder the reasons about it. (no hate towards you)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:18:57 2020 No.31294606 >>31294587 i hate them too, and i feel the exact same way

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:23:37 2020 No.31294750 >>31294587 they are like women but funny

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:27:26 2020 No.31294865 It's entertainment. No different from people who make youtube videos without a camera. You don't need to see what they really look like to enjoy their content.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:32:27 2020 No.31295012 >people who hide their own identity and try to be cute they're just like me ・ω・

>>	Original Poster Sat Dec 26 10:34:18 2020 No.31295083 >>31294750 Women can be funny, they are not. At least not to me... >>31294865 Actually that's a positive way to look at them. But still, I feel like they are using people's hunger for cute lolis to make money out of it. Pretty disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:37:40 2020 No.31295202 >>31294587 MUH 2HU SAGGERS

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:38:11 2020 No.31295224 >>31294587 Vtubers are based

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:38:41 2020 No.31295246

>>31294587
Vtuber content is just entertaining to me. Sure it's braindead and cringy sometimes but it can also be fun and heartwarming.
Sometimes I laugh at a reaction or joke they make, sympathize with a story they tell, or smile at a cute interaction between two of them.
I don't even mind if it's all manufactured or "fake" as long as it seems real enough. It's just inoffensive low-stakes escapism after all, presented by a cute anime character.
Some people are willing to pay to reward them for what they provide and that's fine by me, they're not actually forcing anyone to pay and it's not my money being spent so it's none of my business

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:39:46 2020 No.31295278 >>31295083 >they are using people's hunger for 〇〇 to make money out of it As anon said, it's entertainment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:42:31 2020 No.31295367 Theyre people who don't have to be afraid of looking stupid or retarded and can thus go all out with whatever they want to hilarious or interesting results

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:42:55 2020 No.31295387 People who show their faces are cringe

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:44:45 2020 No.31295439

>>31295083
>they are using people's hunger for cute lolis to make money out of it
Aside from the fact that loli vtubers are a minority, isn't that essentially the same thing that any other form of entertainment does? Nobody wants to consume content that doesn't cater to whatever they hunger for

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:47:14 2020 No.31295519 >>31295083 Doesn't everyone use people's hunger for anything to make money out of it? This is capitalism. People demand an anime girl they can talk to and other people provide that, sort of. If you're against it, you're a dirty commie.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:50:01 2020 No.31295625 >>31294587 They're like anime waifus, exept you can actually interact with them live.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:58:14 2020 No.31295936 >>31294587 Vtubers are more interesting to watch than random bitch who barely knows video games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:58:47 2020 No.31295954 My take is they aren't the problem. It's the people who watch them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 10:59:33 2020 No.31295984 only jp vtubers can be funny

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:07:13 2020 No.31296275 Shark is cute and funny

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:11:23 2020 No.31296424

>>31294587
I don't really get the accusation that they just do it for the money.
Honestly streaming games while pretending to be an anime girls sounds like a relatively fun job I can see someone doing because they enjoy it and it's not like you just get showered in money for doing it right away.
The people who can actually make a living of it are a very small minority among the thousands who are trying to make it and even those don't just start out successful. Almost anyone who gets big either independently or by getting into a big brand like Hololive very likely spent quite some time making next to nothing while streaming.
If you just care for money there are a lot of more stable career paths.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:17:00 2020 No.31296664

>>31295083
>using people's hunger for "x" to make money

That's literally what the entertainment industry is.

-Rappers boast about money and act tough. Poorfags listen to it.
-Love songs are the same.
-Romantic movies, action movies are best when you can place yourself in the shoes of the protag, so you can feel like you're the one doing cool shit.
-Regular youtubers/streamers also play a character.

Same shit, different toilet.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:22:39 2020 No.31296922

>>31294587
>Hide identity
Actually most identities are know, what people really like is the more controlled side inherent to both Japanese culture and corporate culture, in particular the expectation they won't be rude to others, that they won't be patronizing and that they won't comment on real life controversies.
>but weeby
People who call Japanese people weebs are the peak of stupidity

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:22:47 2020 No.31296929 >>31296664 >using people's hunger for "x" to make money >That's literally what the entertainment industry is. That's literally what any industry is.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:24:19 2020 No.31296991
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>>31294587
I'll cover this whole shit for you.
These are women in the entertainment industry. It's literally a circus for people to enjoy. If a fucking retard who has no damn clue when he spends hundreds or more just for some form of human interaction makes you seethe that's your problem.
Anon these are adult people, even if their brain didn't mature. This is the same exact mentality when the drunk retard who is about to get thrown into the streets blames a bottle of fermented water for every problem in its life. Just don't fucking drink, the bottle is not magically jumping into your hand and pours itself, its you. No one else.
There is a demand for a random girl roleplaying in front of the camera, don't blame her for being an opportunist. The fans are mostly retarded but these females are not their babysitters. Life is not Spiderman 2 with Uncle Ben speech what the fuck. You are living in a capitalist country and there is no person who points a gun to your head, you have a choice, and you also have opportunities. If you are too dumb to realize it, that's no one else's but your fault. If someone is a retard who spends 500 dollars so a woman can read up a short text, you have absolutely nothing to do with that, also that person did this with a complete free will. Is he a fucking idiot? Yes. Does this affect you? Fuck no, only if that idiot lives rent free in your head, which seems to be the case here.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:24:25 2020 No.31297000

I mean, I don't believe for a minute OP has genuine interest in an answer, but maybe I'll be surprised. So lets set this hook and dive.

They're a performer with the benefit of on the fly animated avatars. It's sorta like a tech-assisted puppeteer. Currently they're largely unrestricted the way conventional media is (talk show/sitcom/late night) by most conventional rules which makes them feel fresh. They're also largely anonymous which gives them extra freedom to be whatever they want. In general they don't have to sweat making some "I said the wrong thing" mistake that follows them all their life. (Even considering Coco. They're also probably the harbinger of what profile pictures will turn into as the internet and technology advances. You know, Matrix/Shadowrun shit/VRChat shit.

So basically you get the most "Indie" entertainer compared to Hollywood, buffed by good tech, but still (usually) small enough to interact with personally and become part of the story/play. Each one has a different culture and community. A different theme to play along with. You get to be part of the Takodachi, nosagi, etc. Which has a sense of community.

Imagine if Flandre had an official writer and new content came out every day and by being a fan you had the mantle of "one of the cleaning youkai of SDM" and she often interacted/teased/exploded people. played games with them or demonstrated spellcards. Maybe it's wide scale P&P RP that's only an inch deep

Of course it doesn't always hit, but it's successful more often than not.

So sometimes personal, visual, social and mental stimulation, with some added community to boot. It's a steal of a deal for the cost of free. You could pay hundreds for an hour in an escape room, or a ticket to a theater troop performing for you.

And honestly I'll take wholesome tete or Pekora getting bullied by the nousagi over Shakespeare's tragedies any day damned spot any day. Might make me a philistine, but who cares? I know what I like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:25:53 2020 No.31297065 >>31295083 >But still, I feel like they are using people's hunger for INSERT PRODUCT HERE to make money out of it Anon just figured out what makes the entertainment industry tick. Well done, you baby socialist fuckwit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:27:49 2020 No.31297147 Japanese Vtubers are basically pretend idols. Western ones like melody can be chill. She is a porn star and proud of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:29:07 2020 No.31297188 Newfag here, what was /jp/ even like before this vtuber surge?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:30:52 2020 No.31297244 >>31297188 Shit, just like everywhere else on this website.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:32:19 2020 No.31297283 >>31297147 Fuck western vtubers they can all go to hell

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:33:32 2020 No.31297320 >>31297283 Porn stars > wannabe fake pure idols.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:33:41 2020 No.31297323 >>31297188 One of the two boards I know where people genuinely enjoyed using.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:34:32 2020 No.31297351 >>31297320 Fuck western people

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:34:38 2020 No.31297354 >>31297188 VN/Doujin board

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:35:53 2020 No.31297408 >>31297188 touhou, rhythm games, and birds cooking spaghetti

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:36:08 2020 No.31297418 >>31297188 One of the two boards I know where people genuinely had fun in.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:41:21 2020 No.31297573

>>31297000
There is nothing wrong with this if you don't cross a certain border when it becomes legit obsession, and you think of a random ass girl on the internet as your god. Then it becomes a problem because you become obnoxious about it, whereas the truth is you are putting this girl on a pedestal, which makes you a retard or in zoomspeak a SIMP. There wouldn't be any problem with this if people didn't push it so incredibly aggressively, which is heavily normalfag behaviour to be a sheep, follow a current trend and push it on others too, even if others are clearly not into it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:44:34 2020 No.31297663 >>31294587 What is the appeal of Gura to warrant double the subscribers of the other HoloEN crew? It honestly cannot be shark cunny.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:44:38 2020 No.31297665

>>31294587
Okay Britney. I guess you're bored since your Twitter got suspended.

I like V-Tubers for several reasons. Chief among them being they're pretty wholesome and uncomplicated. I don't have to deal with their medicated mood swings and neuroticism like real women. I can just watch a live stream and be entertained without them shouting about whatever fad politics they possess.

I know they're playing a character. Based on what Doxfags have found out I probably wouldn't like some of the V-Tubers IRL like Kiara. But it's like wrestling in that a bunch of autists trying to tell me it's all fake isn't going to stop ne getting immersed in Kayfabe for a little bit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:46:48 2020 No.31297723 >>31297663 Youtube algorithm pushed her channel as children's entertainment and she got huge off that.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:48:19 2020 No.31297782

>>31297573
Sure but that's standard for any entertainment medium. You get fans who buy a concert ticket and you get stalkers that lose control of their lives and try to fish their subject's pubic hair out of the sewer system. Hell Vtubers are actually better than most because the anonymity protects both the viewer and the performer from the most extreme obsessions.

And I mean, I think I wouldn't call that normalfag as much as otaku. If there was ever a board that could understand "Know a guy/Be a guy who got really into idols/trains/touhou/whatever and wouldn't shut up about it to family, friends and people on the street?" this is that board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:49:48 2020 No.31297823 >>31297188 comfy

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:50:00 2020 No.31297835 >>31297723 That does not surprise me, because only found out about HoloEN by a youtube video my 11 year niece was watching since she loves Minecraft.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:53:03 2020 No.31297908
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>>31294587
I think vtubing is superior to on-camera streaming for one specific reason:

When your looks come pre-min-maxxed for you, then the only thing that sets you apart is your actions.

It feels like the fans of each vtuber like them because of the things that are actually appealing about them instead of coomer reasons.

Also with irl streamer collabs it feels almost painfully obvious who's a 'jobber' and who isn't, while 90% of vtubers don't feel like jobbers at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:53:40 2020 No.31297927 Hololive gave us our own unofficial Vtuber so I'm okay with it

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:53:56 2020 No.31297934

>>31294587
What bothers me is not only the simp part, but how it’s technologically targeted corporately controlled simping. There’s a difference between individuals egirls whoring themselves out and massive businesses using dystopian information control technology to shill this shit literally everywhere at a time where men are lonelier and more desperate than ever
We’ve passed the event horizon, in the future actual social relationships with women will be the domain of an ever shrinking caste of chad while every other male is doomed to wageslavery with simping juice reward mechanisms as the only thing keeping them from suicide/rebellion. Our children are fucked.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:54:28 2020 No.31297955

>>31294587
I am not a vtuberfag however I do follow twitch streamers (mainly Vinesauce) and a close friend of mine is, and we have talked about the topic.

To answer your question, I would say that most people who follow streamers do it due to the streamer's personality, it is like following an actor's career or some influencer, you do it mostly because you like the guy, or think the stuff he does is entertaining/funny
Now when it comes especifically about hololive, the thing is that since they appeal to the weeb community in general, also I remember that when there was some major drama a few months ago my friend sent me a video explaining the drama (the TW one) and in the video the dude said "the main reason why I believe most people follow hololive's talents is because they have a close knit community and due to the lack of drama" oh boy he couldnt be wrong...
Since that drama happened, my friend who is lazy af and doesnt like reading that much asked me if I could gather some info (he knows I browse 4chan) regarding hololive drama and if there were any doxxes of the talents, months later I did stumble across the info he wanted and I found out a clusterfuck of dramas with it.
I would say that outside of anonymous forums, since there is heavy moderation on the side of Cover to "protect" their talents these dramas are majorly unknown to outsiders, that way they are able to live basically in a safe space.

Aside from the more "normal" followers who just do it because they like the streamer/find their content entertaining there is a second category of Hololive viewers which are mostly here, the White knights, I believe they follow them for the same reason a simp would follow a twitch thot, and that is the same reason why I dont like them: Because it is an anime girl that can make cute noises who plays vidya and people start fucking worshipping them just for that (and they barely know shit about videogames) deny every single claim of drama regarding their streamfu and go on to shit on others. It wouldnt surprise me if there is people that believe they act like that also irl.
Through the doxxes it is known that a lot of Cover's talents were not pure white lilies in the past, they clearly know how to manage simps, and in the first place I believe that is why they were hired.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:56:22 2020 No.31298005 >>31297934 Holy shit I haven't heard the "Anime/games/the internet will destroy the good Christian fabric of a working society" take since the 90s

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:57:05 2020 No.31298025 >>31298005 Take a look at modern japan and tell me that it hasn’t

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:57:41 2020 No.31298043

>>31297573
>whereas the truth is you are putting this girl on a pedestal
Everyone puts every kind of entertainer on a pedestal. Did you know there exist millions of retards who think 6ix9ne is a cool guy? Every demographic from 3 to 100 years old puts some sort of entertainer on a pedestal, be it blues musicians from the 40s, rockstars from the 60s, artists from the 1800s, kpop idols from the 2000s... you get the idea.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:57:55 2020 No.31298052

>>31294587
And what's wrong with trying to hide your identity? Why are you hiding under the facade of 'Anonymous' and not declaring your name and address on your OP?

I'm not asking you to do it, but that is what your argument is coming across as. You, yourself, are hiding your identity to talk about people who hide their identity and make their money/content.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:57:56 2020 No.31298053 >>31294587 I like streamers, so the jump from watching some dude play a video game to watching some anime girl do it was really just a short leap.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:58:00 2020 No.31298057 >>31294587 I watch them and it makes me feel happy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 11:58:18 2020 No.31298067 >>31298025 Though I don’t mean to single out japan, every 1st world country is having this problem but they cover it up with massive immigration which in turn causes other problems

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:02:12 2020 No.31298165 >>31294587 For the record I don't think that many vtuberfags watch them live, there's so many clips often in just hours of the juicy bits. I only watch Korone live because she a cute doggo and her voice cures my depression.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:02:15 2020 No.31298167

>>31298025
Uh yeah I will thanks. Japan got crushed by sky high expectations, living for your work and 10+ hour days 5-6 days a week destroying any possiblitiy of family and settling down. It wasn't someone's Dragon Quest playthroughs or anime figures that did it, those among others are pacifiers for a populous that *doesn't have time* for relationships and families. Same reason sex friends are super popular in japan because they don't have time to manage and maintain a full relationship.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:02:44 2020 No.31298181 >>31297934 You're overthinking. It's just a hobby and the people addicted to it are a very small minority

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:02:50 2020 No.31298184 >>31298025 Yeah, it's shit. No wonder people would prefer wasting their lives on escapist hobbies to actually participating in Japanese society. Bit weird to only blame the escapist hobbies for that though.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:05:38 2020 No.31298250

>>31297782
Usually these people are introverts and they don't talk about their obsessions, since its not socially accepted. Here its a different story since there is a lot of falseflaggers who spam vtubers just to cause chaos for shit and giggles, because anonymity protects them. The reason I said normalfags are more prone to this is because they don't feel ashamed since its socially accepted. Anime is the perfect example of this:
"LOL I watched anime I'm so quirky hehe xD" Its socially acceptable to have this opinion in public too. "Oh you hate anime you are cringe lmao" It's an actual thing now, you either join them, or you don't. In many cases the older fans who were even more into it don't admit it since they don't want to be associated with them.
Coco is one of the perfect example too: she gone to reddit to see some funny pictures and opened a fucking floodgate of these imbeciles. Now the situation is so bad that liking Coco automatically turns you a reddit newfag. There is no escaping from this since normalfags absolutely love bandwagoning.
Let's say you had the first fidget spinner in the world without knowing it'll be an actual thing later on, and you are a 50 year old man. You'll be forever a 16 year old zoomer who eats tidepods on the internet, because the majority is like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:08:52 2020 No.31298330 >>31297188 dead, irrelevant, and full of ironic weebs

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:09:17 2020 No.31298343

I love vTubers but hate superchats with a passion. Memberships make sense to me due to material gain for your money (emotes, private streams, etc) but the whole concept of superchats are like "I exist. Give me money." and comes off as incredibly shallow.

vTubers would be substantially better if they bumped the prices of their memberships and removed SCs entirely.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:09:37 2020 No.31298354 streamers suck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=golEWOZ0ZX0

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:09:44 2020 No.31298358 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY BOOBHU AND TUMMY THREADS ARE NOT IN THE FIRST PAGE, FUCK VTUBERS

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:10:44 2020 No.31298385

>>31298250
I mean you can live by what other people think of you and your hobbies, but eventually people just say "fuck it" and enjoy whatever they enjoy. Too hard to keep up trying to be the "cool kid" past your early/mid thirties. Plenty of coco fans around this very board.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:10:46 2020 No.31298387

>>31298167
>Uh yeah thanks I will
Tranny
Japan isn’t special or unique, the birth rates of european and american whites is exactly the same and even lower in some country. You’ll have to find something else than the “japs are overworked” meme to explain this one, because its a worldwide phenomenon. 3rd world immigration once again covers up this issue
>>31298181
Not anymore. The last year has introduced a vast swathe of normalfags into digital spaces that used to be for a small minority. Look no further than the board we are posting on right now. The world is changing fast, talk to any average highschooler and they’ll communicate entirely in memes

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:10:52 2020 No.31298392 >>31297188 strong elitist autism. We use sage correctly unlike subhuman fags from /a/

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:12:36 2020 No.31298436 >>31298165 Same but I watch Fubuki, not Korone. Foob is 2cute4me.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:16:06 2020 No.31298522
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>>31298167
this
It's all form of cope mechanism. While it's just a band aid to an open wound its still better than nothing. It's just adaptation and making the best out of a shit situation. Life itself is horrible for most humans, this doesn't mean everyone should suicide because the majority is like this.
If escapism becomes better than reality, then holy fuck there is something really damn wrong with reality, and escapism is not the problem here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:17:33 2020 No.31298565 >>31298522 Drugs are a coping mechanism as well, with your braindead logic we should be hailing our drug dealers as heroes

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:18:48 2020 No.31298592 >>31297934 go back to /pol/, doomer

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:18:56 2020 No.31298599 File: 290 KB, 349x551, watame_3ddebut.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>31298165 >>31298436 For me it's Watame

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:19:16 2020 No.31298605 >>31298565 So then tell me, why do drug dealers exist again?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:19:39 2020 No.31298618 >>31298565 Retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:20:13 2020 No.31298638 File: 277 KB, 500x375, 1608987958215.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>31294587 >Complaining about anonymity in an anonymous imageboard Glad to know everyone here is a post-2010 newfag.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:21:40 2020 No.31298680

>>31298387
Sure the problem exists everywhere (American boomers/social security yeah?) but the population issue is still the most top heavy in Japan, I would challenge you to find a significant number of 1st world countries that roll with 10+ hour work days 5-6 a week +2 obligational hours for drinking with your boss. If someone said "I worked 80 hours of overtime this month" no one would say "holy shit" Even Germany is more relaxed. Japan's government has been trying to bait companies to let their workers build families with law for a decade now. Maternity pay, vacation,laws, whatever you got. This isn't exactly a shocking take or unknown thing. I'll grant its definitely getting better now due to hysterical lawmaking by a panicked government, but if you seriously want to ask "Why is japan here" and say "It's because a girl on a screen went "uguu~" I'm never going to stop laughing.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:22:12 2020 No.31298700

>>31294587
That's what women do regardless of whether they hide their identity or not. They can still hide many important matters about themselves while in full view of a camera.

With that said, company-owned vtubers are:
1. not ugly real-world fleshies
2. owned by a company, and are kept in line by higher-ups and staff. Think of twitch ladies but with quality control.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:22:22 2020 No.31298704 [DELETED]

I tried tuning in to one of these vtuber streams the other day and it just sounded like kindergarten teacher talking to her students. The only entertaining thing about them were the hilariously pathetic donation messages from people who have probably never been in a fight.

But why do adults like this? Why don't these people have any self-respect? What happened to these people that makes them genuinely enjoy having an 3d model anime girl talk to them like they're a 6 year old learning about colors?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:22:25 2020 No.31298706 >>31298605 Because people are greedy scumbags who will ruin people’s lives just to make a quick buck? The corporations that control modern society aren’t any different save that they have government protection >>31298618 Dumbass

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:23:44 2020 No.31298750 >>31297927 Koopa...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:25:18 2020 No.31298803 >>31298704 Watame no Uta and Asacoco News are aimed mainly to salarymen on their commute. Are you unfamiliar with Japanese society?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:26:24 2020 No.31298833 >>31298803 You're not a salarymen. You're a freak, stop trying to justify yourself with delusions.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:26:53 2020 No.31298852

>>31298680
The problem is the internet and social media in general, vtubers are just a late-stage symptom that shows how far the cancer has spread. We’ve reached post consumerism, where people don’t even buy products any more, they consoom other people consooming products because they have been that starved for social connection. It is utterly miserable

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:27:09 2020 No.31298858 This is a shit thread made by a huge faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:28:04 2020 No.31298884 >>31298858 Said the simp while preparing his credit card

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:29:07 2020 No.31298917 >>31294587 Watch Pekora or Miko instead of english vtubers and you'll see the difference. Genuine personality vs an act.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:29:23 2020 No.31298924

>>31298565
Nigger that doesn't follow from what he's saying at all.
Not all coping mechanisms are created equal. There are healthier coping mechanisms than taking drugs.
What you could take away from that guy's argument is that the best way to combat drug addiction would be to fix peoples lives so that they don't feel the need to resort to drugs in the first place, which sounds like a reasonable take to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:29:26 2020 No.31298926 >>31298884 >Being a poorfag Lmao stop living with your parents

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:29:28 2020 No.31298927 >>31298833 I'm telling you, at least from the JP ones, we aren't their target audience. I like the sheep because her voice is healing. >freak wew, look at this mentally sound anon posting on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:30:28 2020 No.31298953 >>31298926 >thinking money is the problem oof...melted brain

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:30:31 2020 No.31298955 >>31298025 Overworked slave salarymen is what is killing Japan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:30:40 2020 No.31298961 >>31298884 >not having enough money for a hobby Look at this poorfag wageslave.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:31:35 2020 No.31298979 >>31298917 KEK

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:32:03 2020 No.31299001

>>31298706
Why do you blame an opportunistic guy? I precisely typed this in one of my post above.
YOU HAVE A CHOICE. Also supply and demand.
Also read the post, because I precisely said it's just a band aid, but of course you missed that too because you have ADHD you mouthbreathing tard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:32:06 2020 No.31299003 An avatar is an avatar, what makes a streamer good or bad is the content. You can know 0 japanese and still like the holos who sing really well, for example. Music has universal appeal.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:32:25 2020 No.31299012 [DELETED]

>>31298961
>still thinking money is the problem and not the fact that you're donating your fucking money to a fucking e-whore that pretends to have fun so she can squeeze more money out of you when she probably thinks you're a freak
this just can't be real, please, don't be this mentally ill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:32:50 2020 No.31299028 >>31294587 Incels get the rope

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:33:07 2020 No.31299033 >>31298917 AHAHA.WAV

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:33:45 2020 No.31299051 I can't believe one day 4chan unironically likes ecelebs Do whatever you want but don't think yourself as better than Twitch simps I took a look at the vtuber generals and they're full of extremely obsessed people

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:33:54 2020 No.31299052 >>31299001 >>31298924 So you’re actually defending the existence of drug dealers. Absolutely hilarious but I expected no less from brainwashed vtubersimps

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:34:14 2020 No.31299059 >>31298852 Cool story, well when you find the term in japan for it that matches the impact of "Karoshi". You let me know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:34:25 2020 No.31299065 What happens if nobody donates? Does the whore finish the streaming earlier?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:34:47 2020 No.31299076 >>31298955 Anime and vtubers are parts of the problems as well

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:34:58 2020 No.31299082 >>31299012 You know that you can just watch them without donating, right? It's not as if all their streams are paywalled.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:35:37 2020 No.31299103 >>31299012 I don't give a shit, poorfag. I got lots of money to spare.Get an virtual avatar and start streaming, maybe I donate to you too.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:35:53 2020 No.31299118

>>31294587
I was asking this myself when the shitstorm started and I think people like them because they combine the appeal of cute girls doing cute things with the appeal of streamers (you can interact with them and they regularly make new content). I don't think it matters to the audience that they are acting if that makes it funnier, it's just entertainment after all, which is why people donate money, because they are entertained. I don't think they are similar to twitch e-thots at all.

Honestly I have nothing against vtubers and, while I think the hololive threads are annoying since they make the catalog useless, as long as their posters act like decent people outside of their generals I have no problem with them. We all like cute girls in the end, so lets focus on that and keep taking it easy.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:35:54 2020 No.31299116

>>31299076
Japan culture overworks people and at the same time makes women feel like failures if they aren't married with kids by 25. So you have people who can't date or socialize cause they are wageslaving, and girls who are neglected cause of odd social norms.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:36:11 2020 No.31299127 What a shitty thread

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:36:28 2020 No.31299133

>>31299065
Someone always donates. But no, Subaru already mentioned that it's something you do just because, and if the money flows, then you are lucky. Lots of independents may not see something higher than a $10 donation in months, hololive is not all the vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:36:32 2020 No.31299136 >>31299082 They won't notice me if I don't donate!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:36:40 2020 No.31299139 >>31299052 >complaining about "muh degeneracy" when you post on fucking 4chan, the most degenerate website on the open Internet This is your brain on /pol/.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:36:42 2020 No.31299141

>>31299059
Japan is ultimately a small piece of the puzzle and your fixation on it is preventing you from seeing the bigger picture
Why are people being overworked to begin with? The economy changed, but why did it change? It can all be traced back to the tech bubble and the overwhelming control of humanity by big tech corporations

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:37:17 2020 No.31299160 File: 214 KB, 1854x1048, capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>31298704 alright

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:37:18 2020 No.31299161 Here is something funny, some vtubers turned out to be twitch streamers in the past - the same kind of women that vtuber fans are calling thots everyday

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:37:45 2020 No.31299177 >>31299139 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:38:46 2020 No.31299209 >>31299133 in groups such as nijisani there's male members that get huge amount of donations and girls who get basically nothing

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:39:18 2020 No.31299231 >>31295936 Vtubers are random bitches that don't know, nor can't play video games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:39:55 2020 No.31299252 >>31299160 jesus christo

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:40:25 2020 No.31299265

>>31299116
No they can't date cause they don't want to, Jap men are the ones that are having a hard time finding partners
Not that it's matter though, because Japaneses worked even more in the past and they don't have these problems. It's clearly the fault of modern consumerism which vtuber is a part of

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:40:49 2020 No.31299278

>>31299118
My take on it is that e-thots want you to gib them money from the beginning just because they exist and their body is hot (I'm pretty sure male e-thots exist out there). Streamers include e-thots, but they're not the entirety of it. Some others just stream a game, or do a talk, or just whatever else.
>>31299161
You do know that there's a difference between a normal streamer and an e-thot, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:41:29 2020 No.31299296 >>31299231 And? The most popular streamer in the world is absolutely terrible at video games. Most of the top streamers on Twitch aren't even at the level of your typical mongoloid autist on /v/ in terms of proficiency in the games they play.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:41:33 2020 No.31299300

>>31299052
Holy lack of reading comprehension.
I'll spell it out for you again. No one was ever saying that coping mechanism = automatically good. Coping mechanisms can be either good or bad. Anime and other otaku hobbies are in my opinion quite a bit better than drugs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:41:38 2020 No.31299304 the only youtuber I ever donated to was a literal schizo who would destroy part of his house for every donation he recieved and the neighbours would call the police on him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:42:05 2020 No.31299319 >>31299231 >nor can't play video games You know that's not the point. Also, if you're OP, watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-xrOZKkEVs

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:42:24 2020 No.31299326 >>31298392 >We use sage correctly unlike subhuman fags from /a/ LOL

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:44:08 2020 No.31299386 >>31299296 What? Pewdiepie or even Xqc are ok I remembered seeing the purple girl doing a minecraft "speedrun" in like 3 hours lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:44:11 2020 No.31299387 >>31299160 >>31299160 Ouch, whatever people think about vtubers and other people's choices/spending. Imagine the life that has you doing something like that for fucking weeks.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:44:14 2020 No.31299388

>>31297188
A brief history of /jp/.
>2008-2009: a bunch of posturing REAL HARDCORE OTAKU who were forever seething at /a/ after being kicked out, 2hu everywhere, thread after thread of horrible 2hu fanfiction, threads about dozens of VN translation projects that, with only a few exceptions, ultimately never get anywhere.
>2010-2011: Addition of True NEET roleplaying threads, continuation of the previous horrible trends.
>2012-2015: Possibly the worst years in the board's history. "Misunderstood geniuses" meme + puddi spam + sustained attacks by obsessed autists (see: Satenspam, Chiespam, Niggy, Suck my dick dude, QUALITY THREAD, Nocturnes spam, etc) lead to a serious decline among the real users. When the trolls have finally won, even they end up leaving. The only notable new addition to the content of the board in this period is Kantai Collection.
>2016-2018: /jp/ is practically a dead board during these years. 2hu content has slowed to a trickle after ZUN got married and many fan creators jumped ship, VN fan translation is dead, and Kancolle dies a lingering death. The only really active threads are the idolfag and onahole threads.
>Late 2018 - 2019: Addition of vtubers to the content of the board. They only take up one medium-speed thread at first but grow in popularity.
>2020: Vtubers take over /jp/.
Without hollowlife, this board would an idolfag general, onahole general, a JAV general, a mostly dead VN general, and a bunch of dead "which 2hu fuck??" threads. It would be as irrelevant as shit like /po/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:44:42 2020 No.31299402 >>31299319 It's insane that there are people that have insane twitch reflexes and plays games like Osu like a boss, but load up Super Mario Bros and they can barely make it past the first world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:45:41 2020 No.31299440 >>31299388 Actually a real good summary. GJ

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:45:50 2020 No.31299446 >>31299278 Not to vtuber fans, they call anyone that's not muh anime an ethot

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:46:39 2020 No.31299476 >>31299388 >>31297188 /jp/ was never good. It's just spammers and retarded newfags who came here because of hololive's recent popularity surge, since even that existed here for a good year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:47:02 2020 No.31299487 >>31299386 XQC was actually a professional player so he's more than good enough.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:47:08 2020 No.31299489

>>31299300
They’re not even that much better really, the amount of successful normalfags addicted to drugs can easily be compared to the amount of successful normalfags addicted to anime (though I rarely see normalfags go more than entry level into this shit)

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:47:39 2020 No.31299503

>>31298704
>I tried tuning in to one of these vtuber streams the other day and it just sounded like kindergarten teacher talking to her students. The only entertaining thing about them were the hilariously pathetic donation messages from people who have probably never been in a fight.
Moririn...

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:48:09 2020 No.31299519

>>31299052
So if you see a marijuana plant growing you must absolutely roll it into a cig and smoke it. It's obviously the plant's fault you got addicted, because it met optimal conditions to grow.
While you are at it blame the sun and the soil too. Again you forgot the part where I specifically said it's not a perfect solution rather a make out of best in a shit situation. The only thing is there are better and worse types of this, but of course you ignored this part again.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:48:48 2020 No.31299545

>>31299402
The term Nintendo Hard exists for a reason, you know? Also, some of them probably let the latency activated (which causes a lag between what they press and what happens) to make it enjoyable (or, if you want to be cynical, capitalize on it).

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:50:16 2020 No.31299590 >>31299386 >purple girl doing a minecraft "speedrun" in like 3 hours They just have to be decent at the game, not be professional level.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:50:58 2020 No.31299619 >>31299519 No, I don’t blame egirls, I blame the massive corporations and pimps. Just as I wouldn’t blame a marijuana plant itself, I’d blame the dealer. You’re trying way too hard

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:52:08 2020 No.31299653 >>31299388 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84fOsLdqDAM what about this though? it seems to me that there used to be some kind of thriving culture here

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:53:32 2020 No.31299696

>>31299487
See people watch male streamers because they're entertaining or good at video game
But most people who watch vtubers and female streamers because they're lonely men. No one gives a fuck about male vtubers (in the English community at least)
The reason I hate vtubers so much because a portion of 4chan loves them. God I hate seeing their fucking faces all over 4chan

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:54:18 2020 No.31299719

>>31299489
I doubt you have any facts to back that up.
I honestly don't really care whether you think certain hobbies stop you from leading a successful life for some reason anyway. I just wanted to point out that COPING MECHANISM BAD is not a good argument.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:55:49 2020 No.31299761 the newer ones are just the equivalent of twitch streamers and they're trash memers but I don't dictate what people want. I honestly thought they'd evolve to make variety videos on youtube back in 2017 but i guess it didnt turn out that way

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:56:15 2020 No.31299776 >>31299696 Are you OP? You hate them so you're spending your day encouraging talk about them and spending hours in threads talking about them? Is this some kind of M play I don't understand?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:56:53 2020 No.31299792 >>31299388 It could have been any trend to “kill” this already dead board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 12:59:32 2020 No.31299884 >>31299761 doesn't ai still do that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:00:09 2020 No.31299918 You're telling me you hate these? >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYzTq7YEPBI damn you're gay son.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:00:19 2020 No.31299925

>>31299719
I don’t need any facts because it’s fucking obvious, the amount of politicians businessmen and celebrities that have all had a hardcore drug addiction is ridiculously high. Not to mention all the normalfag chads shooting up drugs/binge drinking in highschool and college.
>I just wanted to point out that COPING MECHANISM BAD is not a good argument.
Well congrats I guess but that’s not what I was arguing. PEOPLE WHO EXPLOIT VULNERABLE POPULATIONS FOR PROFIT BAD is my argument, but you enjoy lapping up said people’s content so what can I say.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:00:21 2020 No.31299927

>>31299653
There wasn't. Content like that, made by people with goodwill towards the board and some degree (or at least pretenses) of creative ability were rare, not representative of most of the board, and were ultimately run off from /jp/. If you really want a video from that same period that's representative of what the /jp/ experience of 7 or 8 years ago was like, this is the best example I can think of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oVLLYhZFg4

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:00:53 2020 No.31299947 File: 874 KB, 1239x694, tarantula.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] you can watch haachama eat a tarantula

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:00:58 2020 No.31299950 >>31299918 I wish they stopped covering it already

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:01:08 2020 No.31299957 >>31299776 I'm not OP, I'm here to see the progress of Rance translations, not a /jp/ user I hate vtubers but I don't spend time writing shit about them. This thread is an exception though

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:01:21 2020 No.31299964

People who watch vtubers have EXTREME autism. I literally cannot comprehend the idea of watching a non existent fake anime girl horribly play some video games just for donations. Hololive is 100% pure unfiltered unadulterated autism. Only someone with absolute pure aspergers would enjoy something so vile as vtubers

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:01:51 2020 No.31299987 >>31299761 Ai is the one who did that, and she's kinda forgotten now. Though I think she has a more stable income because of that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:02:45 2020 No.31300023 >>31294587 I like vtubers But I don't like these many threads here on /jp/ There's nothing to talk about them besides doxxshit so there's no point in having so many threads

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:03:19 2020 No.31300041 >>31299964 >just for donations They'd still play even without donations. One of them even mentioned that doing it for the money is a stupid thing to do.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:03:35 2020 No.31300049

>>31299761
Yeah, Vtubers seemed to be going in a really interesting direction with a bunch of them trying to do meaningful content between highly edited videos and performing songs and stuff. But then Hololive came and just destroyed everything, turning the culture into meme spouting fake personas playing shitty games since it's an easier route to get money.

I think Nijisanji and other small Vtubers still does the former but look at how less popular they are now compared to Holo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:03:49 2020 No.31300057 File: 14 KB, 487x407, 1603606839901.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Your tears are delicious

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:03:56 2020 No.31300064 >>31299950 i honestly don't know why the fuck it blew up like what, I'd understand if it were melt, but then I don't think all of them can reach the notes on that one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:03:57 2020 No.31300065 >>31299964 People without EXTREME autism shouldn't be here in the first place. Also I fucking wish, the hobby is filled to the brim with trend following normals.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:04:02 2020 No.31300068 >>31299925 "I don't need any facts" Yeah that seems about where we are right now. Abandon thread!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:04:33 2020 No.31300082 >>31299918 i can name a dozen of better covers done by actual robots.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:05:36 2020 No.31300120 >>31300041 >believing egirls Lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:06:50 2020 No.31300161 >>31300082 of course since the song was originally sang by a fucking robot, big fucking brain brian here. retard/

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:06:55 2020 No.31300163

>>31299761
>>31300049
You should unironically stop watching the ones who have no ability other than trying to force memes. Even within Hollowlife, there are some vtubers who have some level of noteworthy talent and build their audience based on that talentm as opposed to the "Look at me! I am silly XD" shit you're complaining about.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:07:17 2020 No.31300170

>>31299925
Yeah, no I already noticed that you don't really care about facts or observing how the real work functions as opposed to taking every stereotype you have in your head for granted.
Kinda explains how you put abusing physical addictions to sell someone shit on the same level as providing entertainment to someone.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:08:44 2020 No.31300217

>>31300120
I believe in the numbers from youtube, since even youtube seems to like cancelling their channels every now and then.
Most of the independents are just existing, only the ones with corporation backing of any kind get a lot of donations. hololive is not the end-all of vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:10:22 2020 No.31300279 >>31300049 For me it's actually the opposite, I stopped watching vtubers because the highly edited videos felt too fake and fabricated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:10:53 2020 No.31300296 >>31300217 Just show how soulless the vtuber industry is Literally k-pop with extra steps

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:11:33 2020 No.31300315 >>31299947 The man has a point. Why didn’t you watch her eat the spider, faggots?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:11:36 2020 No.31300318 >>31299696 >No one gives a fuck about male vtubers (in the English community at least) I really don't get this one, lot's of them are equally entertaining and actually can play the game i guess it's not yuri?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:12:17 2020 No.31300341 >>31300170 >abusing physical addictions to sell someone shit Kind of sounds like this whole simping as a business model now doesn’t it?

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:12:48 2020 No.31300357

>>31299619
You forgot the last part again and try to twist this argument into your way.
>>31299964
So you admit you are a normalfag who is also a tourist. Or like this >>31299160 caliber of a fucktard in the pic which just screams for validation due to neglection. You are worse than those poor bastard women who come here because only these so said autists show them attention.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:13:07 2020 No.31300369

>>31300318
>lot's of them are equally entertaining and actually can play the game
Lmao, show me a vtuber that can 1cc Mushihimesama Futari on Ultra and maybe I'll watch him.
I don't want to watch men worse than me at videogames. At that point watching women is better because they're cute at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:14:19 2020 No.31300401 >>31300357 I’m sorry anon but I am not the second person you quoted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:14:38 2020 No.31300407 >>31300315 this eat the two talantulas if you think you can do better.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:14:43 2020 No.31300410

>>31300318
I actually like the male vtubers since they seem to be pretty cool dudes, but I can see why most of /jp/ would not give a fuck about them. The original audience for vtubers were the CGDCT crowd, and male vtubers, no matter what they do or how well they do it, are going to be ignored by moebuta. To put it another way, think about idolfags. How often do you see an idolfag who's into both female AND male idols?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:15:50 2020 No.31300441 >>31300407 They can’t. Riajuu AWAY!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:15:58 2020 No.31300451 >>31300318 These drones watch vtubers because muh anime waifu. If you're not a female you have no value to them

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:16:38 2020 No.31300466 >>31300318 Because we already have established male streamers that are entertaining, funny and good at games in the west. But funny entertaining girls don't exist in the west

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:17:41 2020 No.31300498 >>31300466 >characterizing PDP as "entertaining, funny, and good at games" I want /v/ to leave.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:18:10 2020 No.31300515 >>31300441 They can't? Lmao pussy bitch niggers. If you don't eat at least TWO tarantulas ON STREAM to prove you are better you have no right to complain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:18:13 2020 No.31300516 >>31300341 Yeah, you're totally right egirls are HIGHLY PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE. You have a point there. Never let anyone give you a free dose that's how they get you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:19:30 2020 No.31300551 Touhou is dead move on boomer

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:19:51 2020 No.31300565

>>31300296
>soulless
How? The small ones don't feel like fakes because they don't even have "simps" to please. And sometimes you find fun stuff, like that Asu e no Houkou karaoke from a few days ago. Bad in a fun way, with a surprisingly deep voice.
>>31300498
>PDP is the only male streamer in the west

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:20:35 2020 No.31300583

>>31299265
It was only less of a problem before because it was something everyone just had to get out of the way as a social requirement. You ever heard of "Retired Husband Syndrome?" Japanese couples finally get old enough to retire and then realize they know so little about eachother that they're practically strangers after being married for decades because of how little time they spent at home. First named in 1991, so it was happening in couples that were born before all that.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:20:56 2020 No.31300596

>>31300516
Vtubers are insanely addictive. I’ve seen people I know completely consumed by them and drop every other hobby theyve had to watch their streams. Even video games and anime they leave behind. The dopamine just can’t compare and it becomes their entire being

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:21:21 2020 No.31300612 If nothing else came out this thread, I realized I'd much rather have a drink with the Vtuber fans than the people who hate them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:22:05 2020 No.31300641 >>31300466 Holive English vtubers are just streamers in the past Just admit that you like them because they're anime

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:23:18 2020 No.31300682 >>31300612 Smells like some pissed off roastie, or maybe a robot that should go back to their board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:24:05 2020 No.31300699 >>31299918 It's overtuned.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:25:01 2020 No.31300727

I like them cause they're cute and wholesome. "Bro" streamers like Tyler1 and the Doc can also be entertaining but I can always hang out with my pals if I want to experience some of that, but as a male growing up in the west it's difficult to partake in more "chill'" activities and have emotionally vulnerable moments with friends so vtubers are the closest I'll get to that. (Short of having a girlfriend, and even that's not the same.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:25:05 2020 No.31300729 >>31300612 I'm actually glad that retarded incels hate vtubers so that we don't have to deal with them

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:25:25 2020 No.31300742 >>31300583 I told you modern consumerism in a late state capitalist society is the reason. Japan social problems are worst now compare to the past

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:25:54 2020 No.31300755 >>31300410 I don't think it was exclusively on /jp/. Even on /v/ when people spammed Hololive thread in there, mentioning male Vtuber are usually go replied rather hostile

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:26:43 2020 No.31300776 >>31300565 Well if you wanna be successful you must become a part of a soulless company. How is that's not soulless

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:27:09 2020 No.31300791 >>31300682 Beep boop, are you frustrated? Seriously though, someone showed up saying "I hate the thing you like" and by and large most people were mellow and tried to explain shit, took lots of different angles and such. That's pretty good in my book.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:27:35 2020 No.31300803

>>31300612
Some of us are genuine, although I figure we are far from the plurality now. I've loved /jp/ for a long time and I know some of the things that vtubers do are depraved and antithetical to /jp/ culture, but I swear some of them make good content. It's just unfortunate the kind of terrible poster the topic brought to this board because of its popularity and the associated drama.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:28:31 2020 No.31300835 >>31300755 /v/ has replied hostile toward vtubers in general. Only time I remembered it was not was around kizuna ai was starting. It's off topic on there and should be shunned off the board, and I wish they'd do that with more off topic bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:29:27 2020 No.31300863 >>31300727 >Short of having a girlfriend Kek I imagine most of vtubers money comes from these kind of guys and yet they shit on twitch simps daily

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:31:18 2020 No.31300926 >>31300835 While it was correct /v/ is pretty much hostile toward vtuber, but it was rather came from Vtuber fans(or rather Hololive fans).

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:31:27 2020 No.31300929 >>31300791 It'd be better if it wasn't from someone who is obviously mad about people shitting on twitch people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:33:28 2020 No.31300983 >>31300926 /v/ hates all eceleb fans though. vtubers obviously fall under that category.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:33:35 2020 No.31300986 >>31300699 your mom is overtuend

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:34:45 2020 No.31301024

>>31294587
>They are people who hide their own identity
You mean like you are doing RIGHT now? Who cares.
>and try to be cute probably just to get money from baby s**** like a tw*tch t**** but w**** and worse.
That's the real problem, they are engineered to fleece payp****, they represent so much wrong about the modern monetized internet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:35:40 2020 No.31301052 >>31299918 >>31299918 The fuck is this it sounds like We are Number One?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:37:44 2020 No.31301123 >>31300065 >People without EXTREME autism shouldn't be here in the first place. What do you mean? You're saying that everyone on this board must have extreme autism to be able to post?

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:38:11 2020 No.31301138

>>31300929
Oh yes, absolutely furious, that's me. Don't know how I'm going to get through the day with all this raw fury.

>Twitch(?)
This actually brings up a good point, this thread is half people who actually know and are involved in the thing, and another half that's attacking some weird phantom strawman with a stuffed bra in with all the hay. So communication is probably not ever going to occur. Too bad really, some cultural exchange would have been good for them so they could enjoy (or at least not hate) the new board culture. Missed opportunity for 'em, really too bad!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:38:46 2020 No.31301154 >>31300929 How can you watch these videos and still think that vtubers are not manipulating a bunch of vulnerable people https://youtu.be/mX1Pr9JRDIQ

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:39:19 2020 No.31301171 >>31294587 Ok incel, kill yourself!

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:39:26 2020 No.31301177

>>31294587
I find Vtubers to be an enjoyable form of background noise. I'll often pull them up while i'm working at my computer as a type of live entertainment which feels a lot different than watching a VOD for some reason I can't really explain. I consider them streamers, not idols and never have nor plan on giving any of them money.
I think the biggest reason for their popularity is definitely the GFE. I don't have actual numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of their viewers are male with very little direct female interaction. We live in an age were successful women on the internet are mostly tit streamers and act in overtly whorish way. Vtubers provide their audience with an illusion of a cute, virtuous, anime girl that they can interact with and support.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:41:21 2020 No.31301247

>>31301123
You are either a board tourist or a zoomer. /jp/ has had the utmost hatred for normalfags (yes, they're called normalfags, not "normies" which is the ironic weeaboo term) since its creation. It used to be the case that /jp/ would immediately tell you to fuck off if you mentioned that you had a job, girlfriend, or attended university, for example.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:42:13 2020 No.31301273

>>31300776
>part of a soulless company
Define soulless. I don't think stuff like >>31299947 or Haachama doing reviews of her own lewds or Watson dissing her audience live or Coco swearing liberally would be allowed in a normal company. Also, before 2020, hololive was basically just another newcomer to that industry.
>How is that's not soulless
It's just a natural progression in society.
>start activities
>grow
>grow a lot
>either be recruited into a company or start your own.
It's like that, and most vtubers aren't like actors, they (apparently) just do it as a hobby.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:42:26 2020 No.31301279 Agreed they are just ugly twitch thots who pretend to be wholesome 100 doge Reddit moment

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:42:33 2020 No.31301283 >>31301154 >How can you watch these videos I can't watch that non-japanese creep though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:43:16 2020 No.31301307 >>31301177 >cute, virtuous Subaru and Coco would like to disagree.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:43:34 2020 No.31301317 >>31299696 "i hate thing ppl like im so cool pls notice me"

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:46:01 2020 No.31301369 So finally we got an anti thread, we are now like 5ch!

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:46:16 2020 No.31301378

>>31301154
>How can you watch these videos
I don't because they don't live rent free in my head. You are literally behaving like Coco's chink antis who are so fucking obsessed they'd even suicide just to cancel her youtube account.
You are fucking OBSESSED anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:46:29 2020 No.31301383 >>31299927 man that was sad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:46:53 2020 No.31301388 >>31301154 >vulnerable people watching Mori These paypigs superchat to flex how much money they have.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:47:37 2020 No.31301406 >>31301369 >Actually true Meidos really doing their job

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:47:44 2020 No.31301408 >>31301283 Kek Jap vtubers simps are even more lonly and vulnerable. Coco is probably the most manipulated virtual streamer out there

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:47:57 2020 No.31301412 >>31301307 >Subaru I'll shank you, chap.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:48:18 2020 No.31301420 >>31301138 Like I said, it'd be more interesting if this person was actually looking to get some insight, but that's not the case.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:49:39 2020 No.31301451

>>31301307
Notice how they only reference reading BL, watching porn, and doing Yuri shit. It's all "Teh-heh" and is part of their character. If either of them said they actually hooked up with a guy, their career would be over. Their Japanese probably dox them and send death threats.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:50:24 2020 No.31301469 >>31301451 Aloe...

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:50:40 2020 No.31301477

Before mid-2019 vtubers could actually be considered an otaku hobby but after hololive boom and especially holoEN it became a part of the twitter/facebook/reddit ironic weeb sphere and will never recover. The most popular english one literally produces teletubbies tier content.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:51:27 2020 No.31301495

>>31301283
At least give Ina a chance, she's such a cutie.
>>31301378
>that chink website thread where they were discussing the cheapest way to subscribe to her channel so they could continue spamming
>>31301451
I'm not even talking about that. Best leave it like that.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:51:32 2020 No.31301499

>>31301273
>Haachama doing reviews of her own lewds or Watson dissing her audience live or Coco swearing liberally would be allowed in a normal company
Dude they know what brings in money - the only thing that corporations care about

>if you wanna be famous, join our corporation
If that's not soulless then I don't know what else is. As I said, it's just kpop with extra steps

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:52:05 2020 No.31301516 Reading this thread has been embarrasing to say the least. I though over here the IQ was above room temperature at least.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:52:35 2020 No.31301534

>>31301477
So? K-ON is peak Otaku culture and it's also teletubbies content. By that logic anime isn't Otaku either or video games or idols. Or Evangelion isn't otaku. The only thing that's Otaku is what normalfags don't like. For a bunch of jp regulars you sure stretch the definition of the word a lot. Evangelion ans gundam are fucking huge and normalfags know and watch them but they're still core Otaku.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:52:43 2020 No.31301539

>>31301451
At least three members of Hololive are known to be married, and at least one of those three is a mother. Putting them aside, one of the most popular members of Hololive has a boyfriend and told people who complained about it to fuck off from her personal life.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:52:47 2020 No.31301542
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>>31294587
You could say that all people hide their real identities to some degree to fit in - especially all kinds of youtubers and people whose success depends on being liked by majority.
Now you could say the same about vtubers, but there is also great freedom in anonymity (as all on this site should already know). Those hidden behind the avatar can create greater illusions, but at the same time they can act in a way that is closer to who they really are.
Obviously we can never know for sure if they really do; maybe they lie to us, maybe they are disgusted by their fans and just care about money, but what's there to gain from assuming worst in people? Maybe they are just shy, fat or ugly and would never be given a chance to show their great personalities if it wasn't for their cute avatars? Maybe they just want to have fun?
I like vtubers because they feel more intimate. I may be a fool for believing them, but at least I am a happy fool. Perception is person's reality. They can motivate me or just provide a source of great entertainment. And if they are lying, it's their loss for not being wonderful people that they pretended to be.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:52:50 2020 No.31301543 >>31301477 just don't watch HoloEN then

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:53:28 2020 No.31301560 >>31301451 CEO of SEX...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:53:54 2020 No.31301568 >>31301534 What the fuck anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:54:46 2020 No.31301593 >>31301568 Look at that post, he's just a tourist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:54:59 2020 No.31301601 >>31301477 >otaku = underground EOPs actually believe this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:55:22 2020 No.31301612 >>31301477 english chubas = weebs JP = regular fans

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:55:25 2020 No.31301614 >>31301499 >Corporations bad kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:56:09 2020 No.31301634 >>31301542 Dude, they were doxxed since like forever

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:56:21 2020 No.31301640 >>31301542 >They can motivate me or just provide a source of great entertainment based. At the end of the day, this is the only thing that matters

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:56:43 2020 No.31301648 >>31301539 Forget that, didn’t one of them literally get fucked live on stream?

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:56:49 2020 No.31301652

>>31294587
I genuinely feel sorry for anons that can't tell the difference between a twitch thot and and talented entertainers playing a role. Very few people, especially not reddit normies, think that there's any sort of sexual intimate relationship between them and the chuba. The reason why Gura is so popular is because the youtube algorithm passes her videos to those who like cute karaoke and Minecraft lets play streams. Korone is second most popular because she's the most wholesome and plays good (objectively bad) retro games. Most of her community are very mature and the least autistic or sexually deprived. Twitch thots don't cater to these people.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:57:17 2020 No.31301669

>>31301451
I'll never understand why a parasocial relationship from both sides is a bad thing if it makes both happy, I'm talking from an outsider pow as I am here just for the eternal onahole thread, but you guys have got to a point where vtubers live rent free on your minds.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:57:20 2020 No.31301672

>>31301539
And how many of their fans do you think are ignorant of those facts? Most of them don't patrol vtuber dox threads and are likely blissfully unaware that the anime girl they sending a good portion of their paycheck to is getting dicked down by another man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:57:44 2020 No.31301684 >>31301614 >Corporations good Japs are doing a good job exporting their autism huh

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:57:54 2020 No.31301694

>>31301499
I know I'm digressing, but give me an example of a "something that can count as work" that doesn't have an end goal of either creating or joining a company.
Independents have nice content, but I'm pretty sure most of them would like to join some company to have some stability so they can continue making their content. Unless any of them is actually a rich one and can just continue doing it as independent.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:58:17 2020 No.31301706

>>31301539
Then those Hololive girls should be ok streaming/collabing with male Vtuber's, but so far only Matsuri do that even then it was only for Totsumachi and a sudden one.
I mean they did so many collab with male vtuber long before they big like today

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:58:27 2020 No.31301709 >>31301652 If you were right male vtubers would be equally popular

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 13:59:06 2020 No.31301735 >>31301652 envy is hella of a drug

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:00:07 2020 No.31301766 >>31301684 I'd rather have a corporation like cover than whatever you prefer faggot, why do I have to get the torches agaisnt cover when all they have done is bring me fun? I don't get your mindset, they live rent free in your mind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:00:20 2020 No.31301777 >>31299696 Go away incel

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:00:32 2020 No.31301786

>>31301648
That has never happened in Hololive. The worst thing that happened on stream was when one of them thought her mic was muted and people heard a dude in the background. She tried to claim it just was her manager, but the company made a public statement that it was not her manager and that she had lied. The Holo in question received a suspension and made a public apology about the matter, and no one gave a fuck about the whole thing afterwards because no one watches Towa for GFE; they watch her because she's pretty funny and a good singer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:00:34 2020 No.31301789 >>31301709 There are popular ones in Japan. It just isn't in the west. Isn't this /jp/ why wouldn't you know that? Streaming in general is more popular with males than females.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:00:37 2020 No.31301791 >>31301652 Vtuber fans are extremely obsessed though. Vtubers are the modern version of idols

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:01:08 2020 No.31301806 >>31301766 Cover fucking sucks

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:01:15 2020 No.31301811 >>31301672 Nah the biggest paypigs know everything about their girl.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:01:17 2020 No.31301813 >>31301791 I miss idol culture...

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:01:21 2020 No.31301817
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>>31301706
Not that one anon, but remember that hololive was built on idol culture. You have to be insanely popular to get away with something like a boyfriend or a marriage, like Nana Mizuki. Also, the kawaii culture is very strong there.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:01:47 2020 No.31301833

>>31294587
Honestly I don't watch them and don't give a fuck either way. Their fanbase on the chans however reminds me of that Clive Barker story about a pile of tumors that lives on after their host dies of cancer and spends it time in a shitty movie theater.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:01:52 2020 No.31301835 >>31301789 But they aren’t as popular as the female ones. End of story

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:02:06 2020 No.31301844 >>31301694 Most youtubers are not a part of a company

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:03:00 2020 No.31301874 >>31301806 They have been incompetent, but so far all the talents are happy there, lemme ask you again fag, why do I have to get the torches agaisnt cover when all they have done is bring me fun? R e n t f r e e

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:03:38 2020 No.31301898 >>31301669 Because it's not real. If you girlfriend is cheating on you and you don't know is it okay? You are happy she is happy and the other dude is happy. That's the same logic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:04:35 2020 No.31301924 >>31301612 >english chubas = weebs Ironic weebs*

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:04:48 2020 No.31301934 >>31301898 By that logic, having a waifu is a sin.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:05:03 2020 No.31301940 >>31301652 Stop lying, there is a stream where Haato talked to some men and the dislike ratio went up immediately lol

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:05:38 2020 No.31301952

>>31301672
>and are likely blissfully unaware that the anime girl they sending a good portion of their paycheck to is getting dicked down by another man
Alternatively, they know that Aki, Mio, and AZKI are having sex with their husbands and don't give a fuck because they treat their content as entertainment rather than as a parasocial relationship in the way that you seem to view it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:06:22 2020 No.31301980 >>31301874 Cover sucks, just that I don't hate vtubers, I actually do like them but fuck cover, just that

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:06:43 2020 No.31301993

>>31301835
They are fairly close in all respects unless and even win in some respects if you aren't just looking at subscriber numbers. The number of viewers that show up to the most popular ones streams is very close to similiar. The record for the highest amount of superchat in a stream is currently with a male making over $100k on his 3D debut in 1hr, and just yesterday another male took second place with around $75k.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:07:03 2020 No.31302006

>>31301898
Most of them know it's not real, just like when you play a VN probably is a fantasy you dont want your heroine to be dicked by some fag, but you know it's a fantasy, if you are going to cherrypick the schyzos who think they own the girl your argument is irrelevant, all these girls have to do to achieve success and keep their fans happy is keep their private rromantic shit out stream if they want to have some, and if they are happy with the parasoail relationship what is the problem? you people need to mind your own business.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:07:24 2020 No.31302016 >>31301811 The biggest paypigs have mental illness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:07:48 2020 No.31302025 >>31301766 Have fun bootlicker when they fired your favorite vtuber

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:08:30 2020 No.31302044 >>31294587 They are the embodiment of corporate shitmongers plunging their rapecocks into the soft, autistic underbelly of weeb culture. Woe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:08:40 2020 No.31302049 >>31301874 Drama exists, like >>31297955 mentioned, but it's generally dealt with quickly so as to maintain the status quo. Neither cover nor the vtubers want that to mess with the streams.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:08:41 2020 No.31302051 >>31302016 Is this the 'vtuber narrative' thread? Because there was some pretty funny posts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:08:52 2020 No.31302059 >>31301993 Pretty boys for fujos so essentially the same thing really.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:09:23 2020 No.31302076 >>31301835 >they aren't a popular as... https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchated-all-channels-in-japan-monthly At least 10 males in top 50. Females are more popular? yes, but that much? No.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:09:28 2020 No.31302078 >>31301993 Most people who what male vtubers are girls, same kind of shit as the idol industry

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:09:46 2020 No.31302084 >>31302044 The majority of vtubers are independent of companies though. They just aren't as popular for the most part besides a few.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:09:55 2020 No.31302092 File: 766 KB, 999x2046, 1608784862919.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>31302044 This is sad. Just sad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:10:08 2020 No.31302097 >>31301648 Meiro? That one does ASMR, and is not affiliated with hololive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:10:35 2020 No.31302106 >>31301952 >>the ones with husbands are also some of the lowest performing members. Hmmm...

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:10:37 2020 No.31302107

>>31302025
are you utterly retarded? I'm going to repeat myself again because you seem to be.
Why the fuck do I have to get the torch when they have only done good things for me? If I have to be critical I will, if I have to get angry I will, but your default hate for anything remotely not indie is pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:11:18 2020 No.31302118 >>31302084 >the majority of hamburger brands aren't gargantuan, multinational pro-obesity lobbyists I feel so much better.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:11:18 2020 No.31302120

>>31302078
>>31302059
Not really arguing with that, just pointing out that it isn't just females that are popular or get obscene amounts of money thrown at them. Most of the popular males do have a majority male audience based on the statistics they show, but I don't doubt its the girls that are giving them huge amounts of money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:11:47 2020 No.31302132 >>31302092 Absolutely disgusting. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:12:00 2020 No.31302137 >>31301648 >>31302097 That was just a made up lie by an EOP twitter tranny anyway

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:13:16 2020 No.31302167 >>31302132 Brother mine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:13:16 2020 No.31302169 >>31302044 >soft autistic underbelly breh...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:14:21 2020 No.31302201 >>31302092 That's the power of female privilege you fucking incel retard! Nothing to do with vtubing!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:14:37 2020 No.31302209 >>31302169 We speak English or Japanese on this board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:15:21 2020 No.31302234 I tought /jp/ was apolitical but wtf is this thread, holy shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:15:37 2020 No.31302243 >Incels angry at people having fun At least 5ch anti thread is funny

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:16:07 2020 No.31302261

>>31302118
They are hardly gargantuan companies we are talking about here. The big players like Cover and Ichikara have received around 10-30 million in investment each over the course of their existence. Actually big companies could buy the entire vtuber industry 100s of times over without even breaking a sweat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:16:47 2020 No.31302278 >>31302201 If it weren't for the corporate m*ddlemen taking their (((cut))), I wouldn't give a rat's ass about the monry involved; as it is, money and corporate grubbers drawn by its smell will lead to a big doodoo outside the looloo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:17:12 2020 No.31302293 Cover is unironically a small company.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:17:55 2020 No.31302312 >>31302201 Top Vtubers have the highest donation ratios in the streaming industry

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:18:00 2020 No.31302315

>>31302006
>>to keep my revenue stream I need to hide the fact that i'm in a romantic relationship, otherwise the people who developed the delusion that they have a relationship with me will stop sending me money.
I'm not saying you can't have this kind of relationship with these vtubers but stop lying to yourself or others about the nature of that relationship.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:18:02 2020 No.31302317 It's like no one could actually speak jaoanese here outside the vtuber threads except maybe three people in /djt/

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:18:06 2020 No.31302318 >>31302261 You are either ignorant or wilfully deceptive of how new (((markets))) open up and take off. This. Is. Bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:18:46 2020 No.31302342 This is what I thought would happen if they got let out of their general. The mess spills everywhere. It was a bad idea. At least in their thread it could be consolidated and forgotten once someone made the next in the following hour.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:18:58 2020 No.31302349 >>31302243 >muh incels Is this the best you can come up with?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:18:58 2020 No.31302351 >>31301542 By extension, are you telling me that Cary Elwes doesn't ACTUALLY love Buttercup? That, in fact, the Rock might not actually cook anything at all? That I might enjoy things that are not 100% factual?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:20:40 2020 No.31302405 >>31302318 I am just saying they are not some huge multinational corporate giants. They're at best medium size if not small companies currently that bat far above their weight in terms of social media influence.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:20:52 2020 No.31302411 >>31302351 Perish the thought, It cannot be!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:21:51 2020 No.31302448 >>31302349 Fell called out fag? Why are you angry anon? who hurt you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:21:55 2020 No.31302451 >>31302342 I haven't been to /jp/ for some months. How did the mods let them out of their containment threads?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:21:58 2020 No.31302452 >>31302243 There’s nothing wrong with being a virgin

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:23:21 2020 No.31302501

>>31300049
nigga, Nijisanji is the epitome of corporate vtubers, there's 100s of them just to fuel their top 5 in events, they fabricated every kind of personality group and passed them as vtubers just to they have "someone like me" interacting with their top earners.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:23:32 2020 No.31302509 >>31302448 >hating vtubers = hating women You are retarded anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:23:36 2020 No.31302510 >>31302315 There is a Vtuber who reveal to have kinda of relationship and kinda netted positive effect on audience. Granted it was a guy and when he revealed to become father people actually congratulate him

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:23:58 2020 No.31302523 >>31302451 The mods said it was time for 2hu genocide

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:24:02 2020 No.31302524 >>31302405 The nightmare hasn't even begun, but trying to stop it is a retard's quest; I'll whine a bit before it truly kicks off to feel better about myself and then sit back to watch the horrid spectacle unfold.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:24:29 2020 No.31302538 >>31297573 Putting entertainment on a pedestal has been around since it was a thing fuck even the Romans had problems with shit like this

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:24:42 2020 No.31302545

>>31302451
I actually go to the threads, and no one in those threads wants any more threads besides the containment ones. Sounds like some retards attempt to shove the containment threads off /jp/. Also some mod fuckery, because mods are pieces of shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:24:45 2020 No.31302546 This thread is bullshit, let's just behave as actual antis, kiara is a whore and mori is fake, there is no cringekino, matsuri is a shitty menhera and ayame yagoo's niece. ALOE LOVE

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:26:11 2020 No.31302596 >>31302448 >SVET SMMR CHILDE >LETS UNPACK >I CNT EVEN I truly, truly wish I could have lived thousands of years apart from these linguistically disabled generations. Woe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:26:21 2020 No.31302600 >>31297663 She got a boost early from some Puritan shitting on her and then people checked her out plus memes , the clip fags picked up on her quicker then others and so did the rest of English market.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:26:40 2020 No.31302608 >>31302524 Not sure it will really go anywhere big to be honest. The Hololive EN ones all have way lower viewers now than they did for a while after they debuted, indicating a lot of people are already losing interest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:26:47 2020 No.31302612 >>31302509 >NOOOOOO STOP HAVING FUN NOOOO- that's how you sound

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:26:48 2020 No.31302613 >>31302546 Hololive is just bad all around, honestly. Its momentum was all memes + youtube algorithm with no substance to sustain it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:26:48 2020 No.31302614 File: 351 KB, 828x878, 64E0102D-3DDB-461A-895D-FDCBEAC5D3B1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>31302351 Darkside... https://files.catbox.moe/658672.mp4

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:27:17 2020 No.31302630 >>31302510 If you're referring to Matsuri going on a date with another woman, that is different. Yuri feeds into the fetishes of her audience. If that's not who you are referring to, I'd be happy to hear who that is

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:28:04 2020 No.31302645

>>31301154
money was invented just to measure the male dick of success, if you involve something geo-political and have a medium to make it stand they will do it without thinking, here the vtuber has nothing to do with the contest other than measuring their cocks

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:29:02 2020 No.31302671 >>31302596 Truly peak moment of our time, medicine raising right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:29:16 2020 No.31302679 >>31302630 You don't even know how to read a text in spoiler?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:29:19 2020 No.31302681 >>31302612 Who are you? where do you come from anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:29:25 2020 No.31302686 >>31302349 Every holonigger is a twitter immigrant so yes this their peak argumentative ability.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:29:41 2020 No.31302689 >>31302546 >antis What is that? Your Kurusumunutu is shit anyway Things like this made be think technology has gone too far

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:29:54 2020 No.31302698 I make orgasms to them

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:30:06 2020 No.31302707 >>31301477 are you living in the 90's or what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:30:18 2020 No.31302715 >>31302613 anon as much as I'd like to agree, they made more than 20 million dollars in the past week live

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:30:34 2020 No.31302725 >>31302545 Lol, maybe the holothreads. A bunch of the vyt posters fucked off as soon as they were allowed to because that thread is just a tribalist shithole filled with shitposters of every stripe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:31:11 2020 No.31302740 >>31302725 Yeah, I was referring to the holo threads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:31:53 2020 No.31302760 File: 568 KB, 702x991, EphjEyDVQAUi-9B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] People who can't even read kana arguing about a form of entertainment which requires japanese knowledge: the thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:32:20 2020 No.31302776 >>31302612 You killed the VN translation status thread - the only thing that has any value in this board. I will hate you faggots less if you stop posting your shitty vtubers everywhere

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:32:27 2020 No.31302783

>>31302342
>What I thought
That the rest of the board would get furious that they aren't handled with special gloves and given special treatment and become furious haters of anything that makes them feel less special?

I mean I get it, everyone wants to feel special and having a special club where you're treated different from everyone else probably soothed some people, I just didn't think 4chan was the ground for that kind of delicate sort of personality.

Besides, diving into this "I hate all X and Y and they're destroying society and aaaaAAAAAA" doesn't seem like the best way to prove they should be catered to with 70%+ of the board space. It's not even like they're being confined to a 2hu general, they're mostly angry other people get to make outside threads.... as well? Honestly the board looks basically the same as it always does, just some of the anime people are from a different franchise. Is that really worth all the time with bait threads and falseflagging?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:33:06 2020 No.31302804 >>31302760 This but unironically It's like a boomer who has never used a pc talking about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:33:07 2020 No.31302809 >>31302776 Your 2hu threas killed that.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:33:15 2020 No.31302814

>>31302608
That was merely the early spike, as expected; the concept is there, the precedent is set and the opportunity for profit has been revealed; now, like famished velociraptors fiddling with doorknobs, the formless beast that is the corporation WILL find a way in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:33:35 2020 No.31302829 >>31302776 Just dig through the archives and remake the thread you whiny bitch

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:35:16 2020 No.31302874 >>31302776 The big majority of people was fine in thei generals, we didn't need more, blame the mods who decided to allow every single indie vtuber to have their shit thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:35:34 2020 No.31302883 >yeah, I enjoyed the times where JP was full and blooming in japanese culture before the corporate vtuber trend came, I LOVED the onahole, JAV and Idol threads (totally not a corporate move to cash in the incels like those vtubers btw)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:35:57 2020 No.31302900 >>31302630 Is this what they call a Shill?

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:37:14 2020 No.31302935

>>31302671
Truly, I'm joyous beyond words at having my lifespan extended so I can die alone in a hospital bed while some no-name nurse with a practiced faux smile "checks in" on me once in a while. Imagine dying in your family's longhouse from the common flu before you hit 60, surrounded by loved ones. The horror!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:37:28 2020 No.31302940 >>31302681 I live here

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:38:50 2020 No.31302971 >>31302883 I just liked the ocasisonal Denpa threads...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:39:19 2020 No.31302983 >>31302883 >, I LOVED the onahole, JAV and Idol threads /jp/ shit on them everyday to this day. But you vtuber faggots are even more obnoxious

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:39:23 2020 No.31302986 >>31302883 >this problem is limited to a single imageboard I hate you dumbfucks so much. I can't wait until they unleash the endplan and purge us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:40:28 2020 No.31303012 File: 913 KB, 1200x1200, 1604397476235.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>31302971 DENPA INVICTA

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:40:47 2020 No.31303024
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>>31302776
just that, uhm, we did not? we had more than a year in a single containment thread and just 3 months ago we had a split for a second one, the thread spam came from the outside and most people don't actually care about those threads anyways, proof? people keeps posting on the fucking contaiment threads

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:41:05 2020 No.31303037

I don't hate vtubers. It's just streaming while hiding behind an avatar. The money pours in because female + "weeb" culture + not an actual e-thot so it's okay to give her money (at least that's what the rabid vtuber fans fool themselves into believing). It's business, and you can choose to pay for it if you want or you can watch them for free. I have a few I watch occasionally and enjoy, but I don't have any emotional attachment to them since I'm not looking for someone to play pretend girlfriend with me or whatever. The male vtubers tend to be more entertaining anyway.

I do hate the cancerous fanbase though (particularly the Hololive fanbase) and would never want to be associated with it. This thread and the recurring generals are proof of how obnoxious and insufferable those "people" are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:41:48 2020 No.31303055 >>31303012 nanahira is a vtuber now though

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:43:13 2020 No.31303096 File: 65 KB, 866x1300, 126139792-the-gallows-a-rope-for-hanging-on-a-white-background-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>31294587 Use this and go to hell retard!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:43:55 2020 No.31303109 File: 89 KB, 262x262, 1583834980196.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>31294587 You can watch them and be entertained for free. I've never spent a dime in my life on gacha or vtubers and I've been knee-deep in both. have some self-control.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:43:56 2020 No.31303110 >>31303037 You are just as, if not more, obnoxious you absolute faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:44:18 2020 No.31303117 >>31303012 Please sing more Denpa, i miss the good denpa... >>31303055 It's more casual

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:44:32 2020 No.31303126

>>31303024
>I do hate the cancerous fanbase though (particularly the Patchouli fanbase) and would never want to be associated with it. This thread and the recurring generals are proof of how obnoxious and insufferable those "people" are.
Exactly my thoughts about Touhou.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:44:48 2020 No.31303132 >>31303110 I'm so sorry for hurting your feelings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:44:48 2020 No.31303133 >>31303024 They are still Vtuber fans You must admit that a big part of the vtuber fan base is really obnoxious

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:45:07 2020 No.31303143
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>>31302983
There was a time when you could have called Touhou a pure product. Maybe not art, but, it was certainly treated with the thoughtfulness of an artist. This, however, is no longer the case... If you’re in jp for 2hu your corporate masters sold out long ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:45:37 2020 No.31303159 >>31303132 I'm so sorry vtubers hurt your feelings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:46:23 2020 No.31303169 >>31303037 ye and u are a livin saint right ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:46:26 2020 No.31303171 >>31303159 But that guy said he like Vtuber?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:46:29 2020 No.31303177 >>31303126 Meant to >>31303037

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:46:31 2020 No.31303178 >>31303143 They aren’t selling out very well then considering all Touhou gachas have flopped

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:46:37 2020 No.31303183 >>31301652 >Korone >wholesome Her appeal is that she's an asshole with the face of an angel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:46:39 2020 No.31303184 >>31303133 be toxic to toxic people they say.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:47:12 2020 No.31303197 >>31303126 Touhou threads are shit as well this board should be closed and vtuber shit should be moved to /trash/ or /reddit/

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:47:14 2020 No.31303201 >>31303012 This list is absolutely a vtuber list. Is this the thing where both sides are actually loving the exact same thing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:47:53 2020 No.31303221 >>31303183 finally, someone that gets it

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:48:15 2020 No.31303227 >>31303117 The majority of them are? Even a lot of people working for the big companies have real jobs or school they go to still alongside the vtubing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:48:39 2020 No.31303243 >>31303171 Read what he wrote again, It's a huge I don't hate vtubers BUT

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:49:15 2020 No.31303266 >>31303197 I can agree with this one. Each generals should just make a discord if they want to preserve their community that much. Everything else is thrash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:50:42 2020 No.31303310 >>31303266 This board as a whole is a mistake, you either allow everything related to japanese hobbies or allow none and move all to trash

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:51:13 2020 No.31303321 >>31298704 Nice copy pasta qa retard

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:52:31 2020 No.31303349

>>31303133
no, check the spam threads and only tourists post there, all vtuber threads, Holo, Niji, Indepentent, are mostly for live discussion, there's no need to discuss offline shit since there's 24/7 content that allows it and a big part of the content is the interactions that happen between them (ex. the 50 vtubers collab that happened earlier today, do you expect to discuss such event on 50 individual threads? no fucking way), therefore there's not a single reason to have threads for each of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:52:55 2020 No.31303356 >>31298833 Jesus you could cut diamonds with that fucking edge go listen to some fucking emo shit and come back after you smoke a pack fag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:53:55 2020 No.31303382 >>31298884 Ok how about you get a job you pathetic loser.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:54:18 2020 No.31303395 >>31303243 You just seem to be taking offense from someone not being as heavily invested in Vtubers as you are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:55:31 2020 No.31303425 >>31299012 Ok incel go back to r9k and get turned into a tranny or something by your freinds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:57:15 2020 No.31303473 >>31303382 >Telling people to get a job in /jp/

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:57:23 2020 No.31303476 >>31303382 >giving money to anime thots Pathetic

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:58:17 2020 No.31303500 >>31303473 Hey man some of those trains/camreas/onaholes ain't cheap

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:58:50 2020 No.31303516 >>31299012 I have money, you don't I enjoy their music, gameplays and fanservice I donate is it that hard to understand faggot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 14:58:52 2020 No.31303517 >>31303425 >he hates my anime waifus therefore he must be an incel and hates all women

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:00:07 2020 No.31303553 >>31303476 >>31299012 if the faggot wants to give money to a whore fucking let him, why do you care about his money? the nigger can burn it if he wanted ffs

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:00:50 2020 No.31303570 >>31303517 >act like a normalfag, hate anime >surprised when people hate your election tourist ass

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:01:22 2020 No.31303585 >>31303517 chances are high you are one yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:01:36 2020 No.31303589 >>31303500 Fumos...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:01:37 2020 No.31303590 >>31299619 You sound like the biggest loser here >”pimps” What are you a fucking taxi driver fed up with corruption in New York Seek help

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:01:40 2020 No.31303593 >>31303553 Poorfags are always so concerned about someone else's money that it's really obvious that those are just some third worlders who barely can afford food.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:02:53 2020 No.31303623 wow, they have anime avatars so you have to like them on principle

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:03:12 2020 No.31303637 >>31303570 I don't hate anime. I hate 3D women acting like anime girls >>31303553 Society looks down on simps for a reason anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:04:54 2020 No.31303682 >>31303637 Ah yes the appeal to glorious authority. What need have a man for reasons when society has plenty to make their own?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:05:01 2020 No.31303684 >>31303637 >simps so we weren't wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:05:16 2020 No.31303692 >>31303637 >hating seiyuus Eww man

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:05:38 2020 No.31303706 >>31303637 >I hate 3D women acting like anime girls So you're just retarded got it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:05:45 2020 No.31303712 >>31303637 >simp hey pal, that's now banned on twitch, now go back

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:08:16 2020 No.31303794 Well you people make fun of twitch simps all the time but don't realize that you're the same kind as them

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:08:46 2020 No.31303807 >>31303637 don't fucking watch them then it's not your fucking money it's not taking any of it from you nobody is holding your eyes on a fucking screen to force you to watch them

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:09:27 2020 No.31303827 >>31303794 >Well you people make fun of twitch simps all the time We don't talk about it here, but if you want then, can you go back to twitch now? Pokimane tier 3-kun?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:10:22 2020 No.31303853 >>31303794 This place shits on all twitch users.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:11:24 2020 No.31303891 >>31303807 Well I like making fun of you >>31303827 Just pointing out the hypocrisy anon. They're pathetic as well

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:12:43 2020 No.31303929 >>31303891 that's a nice argument anon, I also like making fun you

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:17:03 2020 No.31304056 >>31303891 It's funny seeing an actual unabashed normalfag here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:17:22 2020 No.31304064 I like how comfy the "anti" thread is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:18:04 2020 No.31304086 >>31303929 When I see people burning money on the street, I don't stop them but still think that they're stupid. Keep giving money to millionaires anime waifus anon, you're doing God works

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:20:20 2020 No.31304163 >>31303637 Not the seiyuus bro...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:21:30 2020 No.31304192 >>31304086 When I see people burning money on the street, I don't stop them, in fact, I don't even think about it because I don't fucking care. Keep complaining in anonymous boards anon, you are changing the world

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:22:28 2020 No.31304226 >>31304086 Most of the money actually goes to Cover

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:22:31 2020 No.31304228 >>31304086 I really doubt any of them are even close to having that much money. All those big numbers you see for superchat youtube takes 30% before they get any of it and then the company takes a big chunk of it too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:23:35 2020 No.31304250 >>31301672 Anon some of the biggest donations come from obsessed faggots who dug super deep and now have duel parasocial relationships with the chuuba and their roommate

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:31:07 2020 No.31304477 >>31302342 We didn’t want to be let out of our generals blame trannys and furies unironically for this shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:32:09 2020 No.31304501 >>31302349 Sorry it’s accurate women live rent free inside your pol rotten brain

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:32:11 2020 No.31304504 >>31304477 I'm a tranny and i hate this

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:32:29 2020 No.31304511 People that watch vtubers are losers that simp to virtual whores. What makes me happy is that this kind of people will always commite suicide in the end

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:34:24 2020 No.31304570 >>31304511 Why do you care about them then?

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:35:00 2020 No.31304587
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>>31304250
That's always true but obsessed fans are a minority unless you're a fandead, and it depends on the chuba. Gura has a very small sub to superchat ratio, and Fubuki regularly friendzones her fanbase while also doing collabs with males all of the time. Despite this they are the most popular.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:35:23 2020 No.31304598 >>31304511 Yes, do nothing because its enough to feed your delusion that these fans are losers that don't vote and don't procreate

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:37:45 2020 No.31304666 >>31304587 They are all the same garbage at the end of the day. The ratio does not matter at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:39:11 2020 No.31304718 >>31303500 Yeah that shit is super expensive

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:39:46 2020 No.31304734 >>31304666 Not talking about vtubers, but do you have an oshi?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:40:38 2020 No.31304758 >>31304587 Holy shit I've never seen anything as bad as this. I feel bad for her

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:40:54 2020 No.31304764 >>31304734 I don't do that shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:41:39 2020 No.31304784 >>31304758 That's kinda braindead normal for simp standards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:42:12 2020 No.31304800 File: 134 KB, 381x626, 1608856692639.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is Miko the most /jp/ chuuba?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:42:22 2020 No.31304808 >>31299947 this one is the absolute worst fake as fuck and does EPIC things for money online

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:43:26 2020 No.31304840 >>31304511 Nice lingo you didn’t even take a shower to wash off the smell of normalfag before you posted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:43:29 2020 No.31304841 >>31304800 No, that'd be the dragon >>31298522 t. sheepfag

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:43:53 2020 No.31304851 File: 98 KB, 697x808, 835BBFBC-C645-4727-8CD3-5D73B616134C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>31304800 That would be marine of course

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:45:23 2020 No.31304892 >>31304587 Yeah man that’s why we make fun of faggots like this when we see them donate in the general, if you want to support your chuuba just get a membership like sane person rather then this....

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:46:30 2020 No.31304920 >>31304851 >cleared flandre either 1cc wbawc or clear hecatia

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:46:46 2020 No.31304926 >>31304851 This bitch was proven to be not /jp/ at all

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:47:36 2020 No.31304947 >>31304800 Nah that’s marine for /jp/ or mori for /en/ Im sure some vyt and nijji have similar ones that fit the culture

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:47:57 2020 No.31304952 >>31304851 Isn't she a tryhard old lady?

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:51:07 2020 No.31305029
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>>31304808
That would make Haachama a genius at acting which would essentially make her the best actor on the planet. Good luck convincing anybody that Haachama is either a genius or best at anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:52:35 2020 No.31305072 >>31304808 damn, it's almost as if she was an entertainer that makes a living out of that

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:53:02 2020 No.31305087 >>31298750 Kanoli...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:53:41 2020 No.31305098 >>31305029 Haato is a genius, though. She basically created Haachama from scratch, nowadays you only see Haato when she does EN collab streams.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:56:02 2020 No.31305155 File: 193 KB, 561x540, EMLcbXBUYAEpBki.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>31304926 She's been drawing 2hus since middle school. Is that /jp/ enough?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:58:04 2020 No.31305215 >>31305155 Anyone can do that

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:59:15 2020 No.31305245 >>31305215 She talked to ZUN live, she’s more /jp/ than any of you will ever be

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 15:59:37 2020 No.31305254 >>31305215 I can't anon, you are making me feel sad

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:00:42 2020 No.31305283

>>31294587
I like them, they're the one interest I have left that prevent me from ending myself. Sometimes I think about my mom fiding my letter and drown in tear before eventually killing herself too from the guilt. So I'd rather forget about life and just think about vtubers until I'm parentless 20 years from now and no one to make sad anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:01:08 2020 No.31305298 >>31305215 Not true. You can't draw as a middle schooler if you aren't in middle school, so not anyone. Dumb anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:01:30 2020 No.31305312 >>31305245 ZUN was just dragged along by that faggot beat mario He always does things like this

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:02:04 2020 No.31305325 >>31305283 so basically vtuber fans are on the same level as bronies?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:03:46 2020 No.31305356 >>31305325 Are you the next MLP?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:11:21 2020 No.31305591 >I hate it because it is popular Welcome to the real world motherfuckers :>) sage

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:13:26 2020 No.31305641 >saging a thread that reached bump limit

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:14:28 2020 No.31305658 Delete this thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:15:06 2020 No.31305670 >>31305298 Any middle schooler would have drawn touhou when it was the biggest thing around

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:28:57 2020 No.31306080 >>31304808 >fake as fuck >not rushia

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:38:04 2020 No.31306381 File: 720 KB, 1000x1000, 7478f1a0b47a789318ff7fa03e3d8c6c.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>31294587 Fuck you all virgins faggots!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 16:47:06 2020 No.31306650 >>31303227 everyone in hololive is already set for life its not casual at all

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 17:00:29 2020 No.31307028 No amount of bitching and shitposting will make it go away so why do you bother

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 17:08:06 2020 No.31307236 >>31305029 she literally is a genius at acting one day she just started acting retarded and it worked so she perfected it shes so manipulative its scary

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 17:12:11 2020 No.31307375 >>31307236 She literally puked on stream one time. The human body is incapable of mimicking the sounds you make when vomiting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 17:13:05 2020 No.31307404 because they are entertaining

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 17:13:54 2020 No.31307425 >>31294587 >I want to learn if anyone likes them here and I wonder the reasons about it. They're interactive, unlike fictional characters in stories in say anime, games, or TV. This creates more dynamic and often unpredictable content.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 17:24:20 2020 No.31307771

>>31305325
One big difference. There's a 0.00000000000000001% that any of us gets to fuck one of them. Bronies on the other hand, they can just go out to any rural area, find a horse, and get their groove on (assuming they don't get kicked by the horse).

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 17:46:10 2020 No.31308499 >>31302883 Otaku culture is generally very heavy on corporate consumerism, only niche interests and subgenres are really spared from this.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 17:57:45 2020 No.31308850

>>31298852
Ah the classic mix of narcissism and pseudo intellectualism.
Yet, people watch sports, people watch chess matches, people watch takeshi's castle.
And don't talk about skill, amateur sport matches have their fans, even ones where people just mess around and don't play seriously.
You are an idiot, kid. Be more humble, realize no one can figure out the world like you think you can.

Anonymous Sat Dec 26 18:04:12 2020 No.31309104

>>31302883
Otaku is peak industrial culture, which is just modern popular culture. People don't understand that the obsession of the west with elitism, starving artist culture, socialism, among other cancers are the reason why they can't match the dynamism of jp animation / games. Just embrace the consumerism and take it easy. Life is too short to lose hair over the greater issues of art, just enjoy what you like and move on.

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