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Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Higanbana, RGD and all 07th related works discussion thread.

Complete 07th Expansion mega link (courtesy of >>25087908) :
https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ/folder/5bxiGQ5C

>> No.25268305
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chloe is my wife

>> No.25268337

Beato paizuri

>> No.25268712
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ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

Is the real truth of Umineko

Ok discuss if Erika is not yasu why Genji lied about calling the police?

>> No.25268731

>>25268283
why is there boobie

>> No.25269005

Whatever happened to that dude who routinely posted nude edits of the steam/pachinko sprites?

>> No.25269066
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>> No.25269728

>>25268337
Yasu naizuri!

>> No.25269979

I think I'm a colossal idiot
I only just realized that the gauntlet knights are an analogue to nukes, and the walls of peace based on irl policy of mutually assured destruction - and he's using a post-nuclear war setup just because he's presenting some pro-nukes arguments, which would get his dick bitten off in Nipland - with WW3 he can safely claim 'nah, you're looking too much into things' if he gets jumped

>> No.25270947

>>25269979
I think it's more abstract than that. he's definitely pushing an anti-"good people should be defenceless sheep" philosophy as usual, and combining it with a sci-fi premise of "but what if each individual soldiers had the power to wield superhuman destructive force?". People have to be willing and able to fight when necessary if they want to live in peace, but when the human capacity for destruction reaches a certain level that reasoning stops working.

>> No.25270954

>>25269005
don't know if it's the same anon or not, but someone was making an uncensored Satoko nude mangagamer sprite a couple threads ago
said they were going to do ps3 next

>> No.25271820
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Satoko eat a foods.

>> No.25271990
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anons who is the culprit in forgery of the purple statements and who is the accomplish?

>> No.25272121

>>25269005
I don't know if it's the same anon as edit-anon, but go check out @Mikeap07 on Twitter. That's edit-anon. They're active there.

>> No.25272462
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>> No.25272490

>>25268712
It's obvious Genji wouldn't have reported these things if Natsuhi hadn't asked.

>> No.25272622

>>25272490
it's not only genji even other parents wanted confirm Erika idenity
>muh Krauss 4d chess plan

>> No.25273128
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Say something nice about her

>> No.25273160

>>25273128
cuter lovecraftian monstrosity than saya

>> No.25273230
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I AM SORRY UMINEKO MANGA FOR INSULT YOU
I WAS WRONG YOU ARE BASED
YOU CONFIRM ERIKANTRICE

>> No.25273340

>>25273128
Her ghost arse may look obscene, but it doesn't shit.

>> No.25273350

>>25273230
Where do you live in italia
I want to meet you IRL when I'll have the funds

>> No.25273362

>>25272462
Maria has thicc thighs.

>> No.25273375

>>25273350
>wanting to meet a brainwashed puritan SJW cuck even more deranged than usual

>> No.25273377

>>25273350
just follow the smell

>> No.25273395
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>>25268283
Okay, I get Higurashi and Umineko.
But what the frick is Higanbana or RGD??

>> No.25273428

>>25273395
Stories? They don't necessarily have a deeper meaning.

>> No.25273535
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>>25273428
Do they have anything to do with Higurashi or Umineko? They share the same world, after all.

>> No.25273561

>>25273395
Lolis killing themselves because they are humiliated by bullies and haunted by ghosts. Prostitutes playing mafia and royally fucking it up in an alternate post-WW2 scenario with no nukes and no anime.

>> No.25273607

>>25273535
I have yet to finish RGD, but I'm not sure why Higanbana would be set in the same world as WTC. Higanbana is literally just youkai stories.

>> No.25273656

>>25273607
Well, and Hanyuu is a youkai generally speaking.

>> No.25273724

>>25273350
not here anon
if you want we can speak togethe rbefore

>> No.25273734

>>25273656
Hanyuu is a god. Youkais are just ghosts / ghost stories / concepts.

>> No.25273738

>>25273375
fuck off pedo

>> No.25273742

>>25273724
>erikantrice was a gay courting ritual all along
I'm ashamed to say that I didn't see this one coming

>> No.25273763

>>25273734
Gods are just conceptual beings as well, especially so in Hanyuu's case.

>> No.25273784

>>25273763
You can see it that way but what is your point here? What is Higanbana to you?

>> No.25273841

>>25273784
Nothing, that's my question.
I don't know Higanbana and want to know what it is.

>> No.25273868

>>25273742
i just want discuss about it
what's wrong?

>> No.25273882

>>25273868
it's okay bro, I can understand that this is the only way you know to hook up with other umineko autists. I give you my heartfelt blessing.

>> No.25273919

>>25273868
You are an evil piece of shit. Go back to discord where you belong.

>> No.25273969

>>25273919
discover banned me everywhere
shkanontrice piece of shit fear the TRUTH
>>25273882
nope anon i really beliv ein my theoory

>> No.25274092

>>25273841
I don't even get this question. Higanbana is Higanbana, and completely separate and unrelated to anything else. Are you wanting a summary?

>> No.25274096

>>25273969
Fix your grammar already. You have to be doing this on purpose.

>> No.25274131

>>25274096
>muh grammar
not an argument
everyone junderstand it very well
what is your probelm?

>> No.25274140

>>25274096
He has been for a long time

>> No.25274164

>>25274096
No shit it's on purpose, so stop replying and feeding him.

>> No.25274223

>>25274096
yu are of teh jelous yuo no undertsadign a smart read that it is erikantriche theiry please do a trying of the think and see four yoursefl

>> No.25274237 [DELETED] 

We should mass report the faggot and anyone who replies to him. He's a fucking troll. I'm already doing my part.

>> No.25274254 [DELETED] 

>>25274237
Fucking pussy.
Reported for being a pussy.

>> No.25274330

>>25274237
>troll
why?
i wrote an entire manifesto

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>>25268283
Make way for the best character in all of when they CRY!
<Miss> Dlanor A. Knox!!

>> No.25275339
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>>25275295
how puffy do you think her cunny is?

>> No.25275475

Umineko screenshot generator is up again!
https://hikukastel.net/generator/generator.html

>> No.25275755
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>>25275475
Nice

>> No.25275810

>>25275755
Post more

>> No.25275948

>>25275475
Is it still stuck with the pre-EP7 content?

>> No.25275980
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>> No.25276009

>>25275475
Where is loli Angste?

>> No.25276059

>>25276009
She still wets the bed, so she's not allowed to enter.

>> No.25276086

>>25275948
No, it got updated.

>> No.25276105

What if teen Ange peed herself in front of all her bullies and broke down crying because she can't believe what just happened and the humiliation she feels is overwhelming? Would she leave school altogether and kill herself the next day?

>> No.25276195

>>25276105
But that did happen and she did not kill herself.

>> No.25276333

>>25276195
well, not the next day at least

>> No.25276405

Mariaは

She justは

She wasn't proud of it, but she simplyは

It was only natural. That's all there is to it.

>> No.25277078

Why is Midori the only Higanbana loli who gets any fanart? Aya is superior. She's cuter, has a better hairstyle, is athletic and sweaty, and also pathetic, since she's an angsty preteen kid who thinks she's better than everyone else because she discovered nihilism and wants to die. Her curse is also brilliant because only a boring ass brat with no passions or hobbies would do something as pointless as counting the steps, which made her fall right into the trap.

She's perfect.

>> No.25277182

>>25273395
>Higanbana
No relation outside of VN team.

>> No.25277230
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Reminder that Ciconia reused concept and music from the Haworthia audio drama:
https://youtu.be/AsdKIGJZ8V8
https://youtu.be/x1_ChGnW-pQ

>> No.25277567

>>25277230
Cute arse.

>> No.25277616

>>25277078
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't that girl have an asshole? That's a bummer. Why God? Why?

>> No.25277690

>>25277567
note those are Organic Automatas (think of them as advance 8MS)

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>>25275475

>> No.25278745
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>>25275475

>> No.25278785

>>25278745
>>25278664
too bad the font is way off

>> No.25278793

>>25278785
You can use whatever font you want. I changed it to comic sans

>> No.25278799

>>25278793
oh, that's good
nvm then

>> No.25278820

>>25273882
>Umineko Meet-Up
Everyone dies but in really obvious ways because no one is a criminal mastermind and the culprit is the guy wearing a dress
>Higurashi Meet-Up
Just some Japanese folks talking to a few American Expats at a bar
>Ciconia Meet-Up
I like Okonogi

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>>25278820
me too

>> No.25278844
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>>25275475

>> No.25278899
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>>25278820
>Umineko Meet-Up
12 hours of DID YOU KNOW THE REAL TRUTH OF UMINEKO

>> No.25278922
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>> No.25278958
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>>25275475

>> No.25278997

>>25278899
Are you a cute twink?

>> No.25279018
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>>25275475

>> No.25279025

>>25278997
what mean

>> No.25279045

>>25279018
Well, from an anti-fantasy perspective, he is the one most likely to be capable of reviving the dead

>> No.25279084

>>25279025
Are you a cute boy who is attracted to men, perhaps you might even be single?

>> No.25279094

>>25279084
fuck off
i am A CHAD ATTRACTED TO CUTE TOMBOYS

>> No.25279116

>>25279094
If they're murderers I'd rather go for a twink

>> No.25279168

>>25279116
if they try to kill me in a killing mistery i would be happy

>> No.25279186

>>25279094
bro but what if you mistook a cute twink for a cute tomboy? would you do it? that'd be pretty gay

>> No.25279198

>>25279168
But in short, it is no mystery

>> No.25279209
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>>25279186
Simple
logic

Premise
-i am not gay
-i love Kanon
what i must show
-Kanon is a cute tomboy

proof:
for absurde Kanon is a man is true
this imply that love Kanon is gay
but as the premise show i am not gay

so i am gay and not gay at the same time
true=false 1=0

ABSURDE

so Kanon is a woman

>> No.25279218

>>25279209
>Premise
>-i am not gay
>-i love Kanon
Stopped reading right there you are wrong stupid

>> No.25279235

>>25279218
nope are truth

>> No.25279338

>>25279209
How do you feel when you have to type "genderbent" every time you go searching for Kanon porn?

>> No.25279360
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>>25279338
every not-naked image of Kanon is ok fro me
not my fault if shkanontrice force people to produce gay image of her

>> No.25279458

>>25279360
cute

>> No.25279758

How does Erikantrice explain the EP1 first twilight? It doesn't make sense for George to go through this elaborate plan to have Shannon wear the ring or not. It also doesn't address at all Eva's strange behavior in the parlor that's meant to be a clue that she believes no one has died.

>> No.25279845

>>25279338
I've never seen an image of Kanon with a pussy. And as for yaoi there's actually very little with Kanon.

>> No.25279862

>>25279758
simple Kanon make George belive that Shannon was faking her dead

the ring is a signal
""" if Shannon wear the ring mean that she agree to cooperate"""

>It also doesn't address at all Eva's strange behavior in the parlor that's meant to be a clue that she believes no one has died.
The culprit is not that Stupid

Eva is not a dumb culprit but a smart detective
she notice that there was something wrong and start to discuss with the person who remain logic and show dubits Battler

then explain why George refuse to go with his parents
if he accepted Kanon could not kill them

>> No.25279932

>>25279862
Why did George have to have a signal that required him to do heavy acting and for everyone to see it? Why couldn't Kanon have told him sometime in private, like when they walking back to the mansion, or through use of any sort of simple gesture? There's no reason for such an elaborate plan.

I neither claimed Eva was the culprit nor that she was stupid. Please reread my post and address it. I will not respond to your reply if it doesn't mention both George's plan and Eva's behavior.

>> No.25279980

>>25279932
>Why couldn't Kanon have told him sometime in private, like when they walking back to the mansion
simple
Shannon have only half of the face
Beatrice confirm that everyone who see a body with only half of the same can confirm his death

so without the signal George would look at Shannon to confirm the situation and this would destroy Kanon's plan
>I neither claimed Eva was the culprit nor that she was stupid
you belive in shknaontrice so Eva is the culprit for you and a culprit who act like that is really stupid

>> No.25280022

>>25279980
I never claimed I believe in Shkanontrice. Please don't assume things.

There is no reason for Kanon to kill Shannon in a way that she only has half her face if his goal is to hide the fact that she's dead. This is now an overly complex plan from both George and Kanon.

>> No.25280060

>>25280022
Kanon's plan is make Battler and us solve this crime

why kill 6 people and cut half os the face to only 2 bodies
there is no motive in shkanontrice

but this is a riddle for George Culprit
Krauss was used to make us understand that a body with half of the face is really death and George never see shannon's face mean that for him she is alive,

the problem is not make George see that body and the ring was used

>> No.25280077

>>25277078
Every girl in Higanbana is a humiliatee, but this one humiliates herself with her pathetic angst.

>> No.25280111

>>25280060
So again,
>Why did George have to have a signal that required him to do heavy acting and for everyone to see it? Why couldn't Kanon have told him sometime in private, like when they walking back to the mansion, or through use of any sort of simple gesture? There's no reason for such an elaborate plan.

The half a face idea is also a clue in Shkanontrice because it tells you that Hideyoshi knows that Shannon isn't dead. He is describing a body that doesn't exist.

>> No.25280136

>>25280111
Nope since there is not a corpse
Hideyoshi is not lying about Shannon's body have only a face but about the presence of her body

>> No.25280171

>>25280136
I just said there isn't a corpse. Please reread my posts. I can't discuss with you if you're going to claim you're disagreeing with me while agreeing with me. This is your only warning. If you can't understand what I'm saying, there's no point talking to you.

>> No.25280208

>>25280171
ANON WTF

HIDEYOSHI IS LYING ABOUT SHANNON'S BODY

ALL THE CORPSE EXCEPT KRAUSS HAVE ONLY HALF OF THE FACE
HER BODY HAVE ONLY HALF OF THE FACE IS NOT A RIDDLE BECAUSE HER BODIES DIDNT EXIST

IDK WHAT YOU MEAN
HALF OF THE FACE IS NOT A RIDDLE IN SHKANONTRICE
(i dont speak about Natsuhi didnt saw the body and Battler and George confirm the presence of Shannon's body before hideyoshi speak)

>> No.25280300

I'd rather let Satoko shit all over my face than read any more comments from the italian faggot.

>> No.25280357

>>25280208
Knowing that no one could mistake a body with half a face proves that Hideyoshi is lying.

Logic:

1. Kyrie tells Battler that the key to understanding other people is looking for apparent inconsistencies in behavior. (Rudolf announces that he's walking away and doesn't want to be followed because he's too proud to admit he wants to talk.)
2. Eva is suspicious, because she is obsessed with Natsuhi entering Kinzo's study, even though six people are dead. She even says to Battler that it's something important that he should remember after all this is over. Would any normal person tell someone whose parents faces were just ripped off to remember whether or not his aunt when into an unrelated room? No. Eva also shows no fear or awareness of danger when she goes to the bedroom, instead talking with Hideyoshi about plans to go on vacation. This shows us that Eva and Hideyoshi both don't believe that they're in danger, and that they will have money to go on a vacation. (The answer is that they were paid to go along with a fake murder mystery.)
3. We now know that anything Hideyoshi says about the murders can't be trusted. But this also means that what he says is limited, because he can only say what the culprit allows him to say. We see Kanon lead him through describing a body that only the two of them, plus Nanjo, claim to see. Because Hideyoshi describes the body as only having half a face, we know that it's impossible for both of them to be mistaken if Shannon is lying there and pretending to be dead. Thus, we know that either Shannon is lying there and they know she's alive, or she's not there at all. This can be used to prove that Shannon isn't there if you know that Shannon=Kanon, which then explains how the first twilight was done.

>> No.25280406

>>25280357
Eva (and the rest of the family) acts the same way in EP5, where they are all paid off and only Natsuhi is out of the loop. That's why they are in the mood to joke around or question Natsuhi about Kinzo to torture her, despite having supposedly lost their kids.

>> No.25280576

>>25279018
Actually I thought Nanjo was the main culprit until EP6.

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>>25280357
>she is obsessed with Natsuhi entering Kinzo's study
Eva know about Kinzo's death + a murder case happened
there is something wrong
you can say the same to Erika

Remember when 6 people died but she only care about Kinzo's study
so Erika is the culprit for you
BASED
>Would any normal person tell someone whose parents faces were just ripped
Battler was different
first he hated his parents then he swear to find and kill the culprit
perfect ally for Eva
>his shows us that Eva and Hideyoshi both don't believe that they're in danger,
Eva called even George in the Room
Eva wanted do something and stay near trusted people to make a plan against the culprit.
> to be mistaken if Shannon is lying there and pretending to be dead.
Nanjo confirm the deaths even just said she lost all if face was equal nothing changed
> to be mistaken if Shannon is lying there and pretending to be dead.
Again everyone is the culprit for 3 times straigth
CMON

Eva was paid off to make his son and husband get killed
where is the love this anon

>> No.25280685

>>25277230
is there anything to discuss about haworthia? it seemed pretty simple and straightforward.

>> No.25280793

>>25280685
It's apparently related to Ciconia. Either the future that awaits the planet after the 1000 years time skip or the true state of Earth outside the matrix.

>> No.25280856

>>25266546
Is there a torrent for this?

>> No.25280971

>>25280856
No. If you have enough space in your PC and good enough download speed, you could create it or anyone else.

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Imagine a conversation between Gabriel Kaburaya and Jessica Ushiromiya about the following topic :
>what sauce do you like with your hamburgers

>> No.25281021

>>25280856
I decided against doing a torrent since the mega means I can continue to update it as new stuff comes out or when anons provide missing content/better versions. Also saves some space off my harddrive. Tho I suppose I could do a torrent and just post a new magnet with a changelog whenever needed.

>> No.25281132

>>25281021
Thank you for the trouble. Just remember to never upload anything 5GB+ in size, since the download cuts off at that point for free users, making anything that exceeds that size impossible to download.

>> No.25281158

currently imaging myself inside ange

>> No.25281944

What if Ange travelled back in time and raped her younger self in the あ$$ with a strap-on?

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I don't know if it was said in the doc or anywhere else, but is The Order of the Three Kings related to The Wise Men in the Gospel of Matthew :

>Melchior, an old man with white hair and a long beard; he offered gold to the Lord to acknowledge his kingship.

>Gaspar, a young man with Asian features, hairless and red-skinned, offered him incense to recognize his divinity.

>Balthazar, with a black face and also wearing all his beard, his name was Balthazar; he presented myrrh knowing that Jesus, Son of God was also Son of Man, and, as such, he had to die for our salvation.

>> No.25283989

>>25283810
Holy shit, this is so obvious. How did I never notice it?

>> No.25284057
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RGD is Ryukishi's magnum opus and you're not a true R07 fan until you read it. This is the undeniable truth.

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I don't know if it was said in the doc or anywhere else, but is The Order of the Three Kings in Ciconia related to The Wise Men in the Gospel of Matthew :

>Melchior, an old man with white hair and a long beard; he offered gold to the Lord to acknowledge his kingship.

>Gaspar, a young man with Asian features, hairless and red-skinned, offered him incense to recognize his divinity.

>Balthazar, with a black face and also wearing all his beard, he presented myrrh knowing that Jesus, Son of God was also Son of Man, and, as such, he had to die for our salvation.

>>25283989
Yeah, I don't seen it mentioned aywhere.

>> No.25284136

>>25281944
Loli Ange's anal prolapse!

>> No.25284276
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25284276

Anybody has the full res of this pic?

>> No.25284612

>>25284276
Probably got nuked by its own author long ago. Jap artists are fucking schizos.

>> No.25284950
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>>25275475

>> No.25285076

>>25284950
Meanwhile Batora is humiliating her in front of her cousins by revealing the extremely private and shameful fact that she's at home shitting syrup outta her loli ass. I bet she never wanted her cousins to know that or imagine her like that! And yet!

>> No.25285171

>>25284950
My aunt often tells me some embarrassing shit about my 10 year old cousin that would make her die inside and never want to see me again. She has no idea how many shameful secrets I know about her.

It's kinda cruel how parents treat their preteen kids like animals with no ego or dignity and reveal their most pathetic moments to any random adult in the family, not realizing that such knowledge can be really lewd.

>> No.25285414

How come Higanbanana is not a banana?

>> No.25285497
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>>25275475

>> No.25285808

>>25285171
How can any of that be humiliating when simply being a female human child is the most pathetic state of being possible? Humans've got arses! Arses! No matter how cute they are!

>> No.25285980

>>25284057
What's RGD?
Is it some kind of shitty Umineko spin off?

>> No.25286067
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>>25285808
based

>> No.25286127

Is the nude edit anon still around? Did he ever make big bern?

>> No.25286237

>>25286067
Seriously, how can anyone take Ange seriously when her body looks like that? Butt cheeks are ridiculous, especially on a proud teenage girl who tries to act edgy to hide her humiliating memories of bullying that she'll remember forever!

>> No.25286345

>>25285171
Pathetic! Humiliating! Lewd!

>> No.25286567

>>25285980
yeah

>> No.25287108
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25287108

>>25268283
Do you guys hate Matsuribayashi, or do you actually just hate the finale?
I get the feeling that most people here despise everything about the chapter, but I really liked Takano's backstory and the fragments.
It's just the bullshit in the final world that gave me constipation.

>> No.25287131

>>25280793
It's an old idea for WTC5 that was discarded, set to actual WTC5 music, which is why it was called Next When They Cry: Haworthia

>> No.25287213

>>25287108
idk, I really need an higu re-read. I remember thinking it higu8 getting a little bit too silly for me and it sort of ruined my immersion in the story. It's funny because I hear a lot of the same complaints about umi ep8 which I can see why people would say that but it didn't bother me as much.

>> No.25287251

Please who would happen to have the George Rodger picture it's important

>> No.25287479

>>25287213
Yeah, the ending was silly, but the whole backstory of Takano and Hinamizawa before that was really good.
Plus, it had enough content for an entire chapter, so discrediting it along with the ending is pretty unfair.

>> No.25287716

>>25285980
last 07th expansion's vn before Ciconia, and after Umineko and Higanbana
nothing to do with the WTC series besides a couple of references
It's a linear story about japanese nationalistic mafia after WWII, it's pretty good.

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>>25280685
we could discuss what concepts of Haworthia carried over to Ciconia; like, for instance, how the Organic Automatas are 8MS without restraints.

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>>25287108
I actually like Matsuribayashi, even if it gets silly, I feel that that's the point, a festival with all the characters we like to close the story, and it also has a lot of great moments with Takano backstory.
The ending and last part can be pretty bs for some people but honestly I kinda like it, Higurashi is about friendship, leaving someone behind at the end would feel weird, and honestly I found it to be quite the poetic farewell, yeah it can be silly for some people and that arc has a lot of over the top things, but for me it was an enjoyable read filled with emotions.

>> No.25288799

>>25288353
Yeah, Higurashi is a story about friendship, but Takano never was a part of that. She was the ruthless murderer responsible for the tragedy of Hinamizawa.
It feels wrong for her to be forgiven and getting away without punishment after everything she has done in the previous chapters. It was okay to make her likable and to a degree understandable, but turning her into a sad, incompetent maiden at the end was dumb.
She obviously wasn't like that in Minagoroshi when she mercilessly killed the club crew while laughing like a maniac.

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>>25281132
I set 90% of my mega bandwidth as shareable, so that anons won't hit their daily limit when downloading.

>> No.25289103

>>25280793
How can you be sure it was discarded rather than being part of WTC5?
It can easily tie into Ciconia with a little theorizing.

>> No.25289180

>>25287108
I think most people just have a problem with the finale yeah. I thought the fragments were really cool.

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>>25275475
*hits pipe*

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>>25275475

>> No.25289916

>>25289396
based kinzo knew all of this

>> No.25290017

>>25285414
wym
she is

>> No.25290029
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25290029

anons can you post the link of the umineko screenshot generator? the one that i know doesnt work, even if I add "json"

>> No.25290051

>>25275475
>https://hikukastel.net/generator/generator.html
thanks anon i love you

>> No.25290054

>>25290029
read the thread

>> No.25290600
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Satoko confirmed to be unable to satisfy men sexually.

>> No.25290675

>>25290600
so erikantrice is not possible

>> No.25290762

>>25290600
did she try?

>> No.25291062

>>25290762
It's at least heavily implied in Tatarigoroshi.

>> No.25292540

>>25291062
it's simply mindblowing!

>> No.25293147
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25293147

Rena alternative uniform.

>> No.25293175
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>>25293147
From this.

>> No.25293206
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>> No.25293403

>>25293206
Is Chie-sensei the most OP character in all of wtc?

>> No.25293656

>>25280620
I just came back to point out that you literally just made up shit and didn't actually address anything I said. I regret talking to you. You don't have discussions by talking over other people.

>> No.25293713

>>25293656
you're only just now finding this out?

>> No.25293829

>>25287108
it's a perfect miracle fragment, which justifies everything working out for the club in-universe, but thematically it's too one-sided of a conclusion. dicekilling remedies that, however, so I don't dislike ep8 at all if it's balanced out by that broader context.

>> No.25293898

>>25288799
Well, the whole irie lobotomy backstory puts that into perspective, I think. In Ryukishi's mind Takano isn't a bad person making bad choices, she's acting under the influence of an insanity-inducing virus and not in control of herself in the slightest, so she needs help and a chance for atonement, not punishment.

>> No.25294085

>without punishment
Tomitake's rape dungeon

>> No.25294098

>>25293829
For me, it felt too cheap to have such a perfect miracle fragment. Having this deus es machina possibility all along made Rika's 100 years of suffering almost irrelevant.
Minagoroshi had the club all united for the first time and they fought together against their fate, Matsuribayashi discarded all of that by having Rika forget that last fragment for whatever reason and portrayed the biggest threat of the last chapter, the mountain dogs, as mere playthings.

>> No.25294232

>>25294098
I'd agree if Rika had just suffered passively through 100 years of getting murdered, only to luck out and be released from her fate through pure chance, but since she did gether big character arc and almost "won" through her own efforts in 7, 8s outcome being a gift from god is acceptable.
Ryukishi seems to acknowledge that working hard and not giving up is no guarantee for success, there's an element of "grace", for lack of a better word, in every good thing that works out, and 8 seems to be about that, rather than yet another ode to character agency.

>> No.25294566

Nevada is what Mitarain't!

>> No.25294584

>>25293898
Tomitake made that up. And she does have consequences for her actions.

>> No.25294676

>>25285980
No, it's different and pretty good

>> No.25294995

>>25294584
I don't know if he really made that up.
I had that theory myself since Takano's personality changes drastically during her years in Hinamizawa. Her plan to kill off the whole village directly contradicts her motives at the start of the operation.
And which consequences did she have? She was ordered to stay in Hinamizawa under surveillance but was treated as a patient, not as a criminal.

>> No.25295170

>>25294995
>had that theory myself since Takano's personality changes drastically during her years in Hinamizawa. Her plan to kill off the whole village directly contradicts her motives at the start of the operation.
Her plan was to make a name for herself and have her grandpa's achievements acknowledged. When that became impossible and they decided to erase the whole thing as if it didn't even happen, it changed to leaving her mark in history as the one responsible for the curse that ended the village, even if nobody knows her identity. This had nothing to do with the disease, although the sheer craziness of the plan requires some sort of mental imbalance she's probably dealt with since the orphanage.

>And which consequences did she have? She was ordered to stay in Hinamizawa under surveillance but was treated as a patient, not as a criminal
It was implied that she would answer for her crimes after getting released from the hospital. But she probably won't be held accountable for having Rika's parents killed, since that's much harder to prove. Even Okonogi would get away with that.

>> No.25295572

>>25295170
>Her plan was to make a name for herself and have her grandpa's achievements acknowledged. When that became impossible and they decided to erase the whole thing as if it didn't even happen, she decided to just genocide an entire village instead.
I mean, you can see why people might take that as a tell-tale sign that alien parasites were fucking with her brain, right? It's a massive leap from "I'm going to immortalize my father figure by continuing his research and proving him right" to killing her boyfriend and gassing the entirety of hinamizawa. The similarities to Rena, Shion and K1 aren't all that subtle.

>> No.25295773

>>25295572
Especially since neither she nor her grandfather would be known for the crime. All this talk about becoming immortal was inconsistent gibberish considering that playing dead and concealing the syndrome was part of her plan.

>> No.25295785

>>25295572
I guess so. But it's not as simple as "the brain parasites did it". Even Shion's actions were more influenced by her accidental murder of Oryou and the subsequent fear of having ruined her own life, than any sort of "revenge" or "madness". Those things just added to the mix, but her main motive was quite logical and decided by herself. No amount of brain parasites or vengeful feelings would make her do that shit, she has to end up in a situation where she killed someone by accident and has nothing to lose.

>> No.25295822

>>25295773
You can be immortalized without retaining your identity. You are your actions, not your name. At that point Takano became the legend of Oyashiro-sama itself. As you can see in the last Tsumi TIP, people are still remembering that shit 30 years later and making theories. She made history.

>> No.25295831

>Finally have the motivation to finish chapter 4
>For some reason the game now has no audio at all no matter what I do, (no I didn't press M by accident)
Do any new OSTs appear after Ange killing Kyrie's sister? I might as well just play it with no sound until I reach the answer arcs since I can't seem to fix the problem

>> No.25295854

>>25295785
sure, Takanos crime is still consistent with her character motivations to a certain extent, even though it doesn't make much sense when looking at it from the outside, just like shions murderhobo adventure. but the question was "is it okay that Takano wasn't punished for her crimes in 8?", and I think it is. She still has to try to become a better person and live with what (from her limited single-timeline perspective) she tried to do.

>> No.25295875

>>25295785
>>25295785
And Yasu was trying to get herself locked in this exact situation, that's why she needed to kill people. She needed to fuck up her life by killing someone and make sure she can't possibly go on living after that. Otherwise she'd just put off her suicide forever and keep suffering, hoping for a miracle that will never happen or thinking that being a furniture shit isn't that bad.

>> No.25295916 [DELETED] 

This is what you get for modding the hell out of the game instead of playing it vanilla. An inferior experience and now bugs too.

>> No.25295926
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>>25295916
please do not bulyl me just answer my question,,,

>> No.25295939

>>25295831
>>25295926
This is what you get for modding the hell out of the game instead of playing it vanilla. An inferior experience and now bugs too.

>> No.25295999

>>25295831
>I might as well just play it with no sound until I reach the answer arcs since I can't seem to fix the problem
What kind of mentality is this? I'd do anything to solve the problem rather than watering down my first experience reading a story. I'd even drop the thing if the problem can't be solved right now.

>> No.25296022

>>25295831
anon actually just went deaf and hasn't realized it yet

>> No.25296073

>>25296022
I can hear my visitors so no

>> No.25296087

>>25296073
maybe your visitors are tulpas

>> No.25296643

>>25295831
reset it, unlock the episode, fastforward to your current point.

Had the same thing happen to a friend earlier today, coincidentally, and that did it.

>> No.25296649

>>25293147
Cool drawing but it's painful that the artist who made it is a huge faggot and blocks people for nothing. All r07 fans on twitter are mentally unstable freaks for some reason.

>> No.25296700 [DELETED] 

>>25296649
>All r07 fans on twitter are mentally unstable freaks for some reason.

they're mentally ill trannies and sjws exiled from tumblr that's why

>> No.25296721

>>25296649
>All r07 fans on twitter are mentally unstable freaks for some reason.

they're mentally ill trannies and sjws exiled from tumblr that's why and everytime their shitty drawings are posted here I'm reminded that they exist and this place gets shittier

>> No.25296877

>>25296721
All fandoms are autistic as hell but 07th has some extra special retardation. They're all fucking losers and lose their shit over anything loli related because they can't tell the difference between fiction and reality.

>> No.25297284

>>25296643
Are you serious? god damn what a way to kill my motivation

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>>25297284
Unless you find some other way or your shit's fucked in some other manner. It doesn't take long anyways.

>> No.25297776

>Satoko has an arse and everyone in the world knows
>her arse looks practically the same as any other loli arse
And yet, she wears bikini bottoms to the swimming pool and would absolutely refuse to walk around bottomless even in the most suffocating summer heat.

What's her logic here? What exactly is she hiding? Everybody already knows she's got an arse and can easily imagine how it looks. So why hide it like that? Why commit suicide if her arse is accidentally exposed in front of everyone? It makes no sense.

>> No.25297853

>>25297776
>Satoko is so ashamed of her human butt that she'd defend herself using violence if a boy tried to pull down her pantyhose
>she would actually use violence against someone who isn't threatening her life
Pathetic! She puts her dignity and pride above the lives of others! She belongs in a mental institution!

>> No.25297876

>>25291062
Teppei is the same in Tatarigoroshi and Minagoroshi. He never actually touched Satoko.

>> No.25297979

>>25297876
He still made her strip naked and walk on all fours like a dog while all his drunk buddies mocked her and made fun of her half-grown preteen body. That must leave her traumatized for life. Especially if one of them filmed it all for his amusement and used it as blackmail.

>> No.25298011

>>25285076
>>25285171
I never knew this fetish was a thing. Makes sense

>> No.25298015

>>25297979
She wasn't naked.

>> No.25298092

>>25297979
He only made her walk like a dog, not necessarily naked. But I'd love a scenario like that, especially if her friends went to save her and accidentally see that embarrassing scene from the window. And then Satoko notices them and breaks down crying.

I love tragedy, especially if it involves humiliation. It's both lewd and depressing, a perfect combination of my favorite types of stories.

>> No.25298178

>>25285171
Gossiping moms are the cruelest creatures. Every one of my female cousins would want to kill themselves in shame if they knew of the secrets I knew from being within earshot of their mothers as they shared those embarrassing facts with a mocking giggle.

>> No.25298241

>>25298092
I wanted Keiichi to rape Satoko on the suspension bridge.

>> No.25298625
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>>25297876
>Teppei is the same in Tatarigoroshi and Minagoroshi
You don't know that. Characters' differences between worlds ranged from Shion absolutely adoring Satoko, Shion not really caring about Satoko and Shion brutally murdering Satoko. And even disregarding Hinamizawa Syndrome, there were some huge changes to characters like Ooishi or K1 in different fragments. Just compare Watanagashi K1 to Minagoroshi K1, they're practically two different people.
Sexual abuse was heavily teased in Tatarigoroshi tips and since we don't know the scope of Teppei's character too well I'd say it's possible for him to do it.

>> No.25298708

>>25298625
>Sexual abuse was heavily teased in Tatarigoroshi tips and since we don't know the scope of Teppei's character too well I'd say it's possible for him to do it.
Teppei is just a generic thug in both chapters. And the teacher's appearence made it difficult for Teppei to do anything afterwards in both chapters.

>> No.25299003

>>25298708
>Teppei is just a generic thug in both chapters
He made it clear that he planned to break Satoko before leaving Hinamizawa in Minagoroshi and actually was about to kill her when he snapped.
In addition, the only time we got his inner monologue was during Minagoroshi, so we can't be sure how he would act in a different world.

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It always fascinates me when I read about people getting their friends to read higurashi or umineko. Most of the people I meet struggle to finish and have dropped multiple 12ep anime which is like less than 5% of the length of Umineko

>> No.25299460

>>25299376
Meanwhile I have 2 friends who I got to finish Higurashi and are in the middle of Umineko, another friend still on Higurashi, and even got my 60yo mom to read Umineko.

>> No.25299463

>>25268283
Amazing link, thank you
TV drama with good subs when

>> No.25299757

>>25297776
It's to hide her pussy, dude.

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This picture scream Kinzo

>> No.25303571

>>25287251
it's not that difficult to mke it yourself

>> No.25304505

>>25297876
except, even discounting the abuse statistics tip sound cue, Ryukishi wrote Satokos breakdown in Tatari so that the reader can infer that Teppei wasn't just beating her up. K1 wrestles with Satoko and everything is fine, what triggers her traumatic episode is him patting her head.

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>> No.25304619

What exactly is supposed to be so "pathetic" about Mion's ass?

>> No.25304673

>>25304619
her big green bush and cringy adolescent anus

>> No.25304834

>>25304619
She's beautiful and sexy, as a natural creature with a healthy young body. What makes her pathetic is that she is under the illusion of human dignity and pride, despite being just an animal wearing clothes. If only she admitted to being an evolved ape and just crawled around naked without thinking about her human ego, she wouldn't be pathetic. But she can't let go of her human mind, which desires to be respected as a superior being.

>> No.25304851

Could Satoko ever beat Shion in a brawl if they were both naked and had no weapons or any useful items nearby?

>> No.25305655

>>25268283
>>25087908
Reminder that the entirety of Higu Light Novels are available on https://nyaa.si/view/1267734

>> No.25305920

>>25304505
I wonder if Ryukishi just backpedaled with the Satoko abuse in Minagoroshi because he didn't want to have a main girl raped or if it was written misleading on purpose in Tatari so that we would hate Teppei enough to not judge K1's actions.

>> No.25306212

>>25305920
It's obviously the first one. That scene continues with Rena pulling Keiichi away from Satoko and comforting her in his place... and Keiichi still doesn't get it, he just understands that Teppei has been hurting Satoko, nothing more.
I think the implication is that Teppei starts out by denying that he could feel sexual attraction toward Satoko since it doesn't match his self image of being into "real women". If left to his own devices he'd gradually warm up to the idea over a couple days, but it never got to that point in Minagoroshi.

>> No.25306943

>>25306212
>I think the implication is that Teppei starts out by denying that he could feel sexual attraction toward Satoko since it doesn't match his self image of being into "real women".
People who deny that children are attractive and get all angry about it, screeching about how "disgusting" the mere sight of a naked loli is, tend to get metoo'd at some point or become literal child rapists. It happens all the time. Then again, any man repressed enough to genuinely dislike little girls can't possibly be mentally healthy. Imagine being so utterly incapable of critical thinking and so brainwashed that you can't even fantasize about it. Of course someone like that will snap eventually. They are living a lie and their brain doesn't even work properly. Literally subhuman.

Most of these faggots don't even like pubic hair on girls, one of the lewdest traits of a pubescent female, which shows how unnaturally twisted their sexuality has become. They dislike beautiful little girls for reasons they themselves don't even know, but their repressed desire is still there, that's why they are into boring shaved pussies. It somewhat resembles a young girl's bald cunny. So these people don't like beautiful females at any age, only shallow caricatures of prepubescent girls lacking the true appeal of a child or an adult. Just a weird, artificial, plastic, pornstar-looking creature. Most of these men tend to have mutilated dicks that barely work as intended, but they still believe their dicks are normal and keep doing it to their own kids. Fuck Americans and their obsession with circumcision, it's fucking evil. You are all in denial because it would mean your own parents mutilated your genitals for no reason. No wonder America is such a prudish country full of cucks, most of the men there are physically incapable of appreciating a good fap, that's why they happily go along with censorship and get so uptight about sex.

Btw, Kanon is male.

>> No.25307095

>>25275475
But the text doesn't look like the game at all.

>> No.25307174

>>25307095
You have to use one of the fonts. It's the first one above the red truth.

>>25306943
Teppei is a fucking bastard, but don't compare him to that SJW scum. He just finds Satoggo ugly because she's an annoying brat.

>> No.25307272

>>25306212
>his self image of being into "real women"
I know this is a thing, but it seems like a recent phenomenon. I can't imagine the ancient romans considering themselves less manly for being attracted to cute girls and amazonian types alike. Since when is liking delicate girls the same as liking cute "things" (something stereotypical of flamboyant homos).

>> No.25307327

>>25307272
All I know is that Satoko wears a dress. Only a transvestite faggot would wear girly clothes like that. Therefore, Satoko is hella faggy. She's gay AF.

>> No.25307386
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>>25307174
It's blurry compared to the engine's text. You can't tell instinctively that it's wrong?

Even if you fix the text size here it's not right.

>> No.25307722
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>>25268283
Can Bern get jealous? She can hold grudges after all.

>> No.25307782
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Okay, I just replayed the part in Tatarigoroshi, and the circumstances really are completely different from Minagoroshi's. Satoko's reaction in the classroom especially, but Mion's and Rena's are different as well (they get angry, destroy equipment and break down crying).
Since the tip concerning sexual abuse is unlocked right before this scene I think it's clear that Teppei's abuse differs between the two chapters.

>> No.25307793

>>25306943
>>25307174
>>25307272
If you think about it, being attracted to any girls at all is nonsense unless you are into humiliation. I mean, they are humans with arses. Unless you can somehow sexualize THAT, liking them is a contradiction in itself. You can't like humans without being into humiliation. Ever wondered why human and humiliation are spelled similarly? Humans are a species of humiliatees.

And if you are into humiliation, the winners are clear. Little girls and cute girls in general (the contrast between their cuteness and their objectively disgusting arses causes humiliation), proud/smug girls (the contrast between their pride and their shameful human condition causes humiliation), developing girls with unshaven pussies (no need to explain why this is humiliating to them) and experienced teens/young adults who proudly flaunt their sexuality (they openly embrace their humiliating humanity and enjoy the lewdness of their own degradation).

In the end, humiliation is the key to understanding the human world.

>> No.25307904

>>25307793
Humiliation means to forcibly humble someone. It is forced humility. Humiliation can be an act, a feeling and a situation at the same time. It's the sacred trinity. I humiliate you, you feel humiliated and the entire process is one of humiliation.

>> No.25307924

>>25307272
Teppei is your typical NTR-doujin thug. He likes Rina because she's a slut with big boobs who knows how to fuck. that's what "real woman" means to him. Satoko is an "annoying brat" who "doesn't know how to pleace a man", so Teppei has "no use for her", but that's just the story he tells himself. What someone like Teppei really gets out of sexual encounters is a feeling of domination and control.

>> No.25308044

>>25306943
You can like lolis without being into humiliation, it's basically a nostalgia fetish caused by a childhood crush that went unfulfilled. It's pretty sad how such a natural feeling is met with so much vitriol and pure hatred. So much for tolerance, they can't even tolerate people having fantasies.

>> No.25308133

So did Teppei do it or not? Regardless, he's not the worst uncle in the series. That title goes to Yasu. That fag straight up killed his nephew and niece while being in a weird incestuous relationship with both at the same time.

>> No.25308375

>>25308133
at least yasu was nice to maria

>> No.25308651

>>25308133
But Yasu is cute.

>> No.25308740

>>25307722
>Lambda wearing socks while seducing another woman
OOC garbage

>> No.25309088

>>25307793
Is humiliation really the worst thing that can ever happen to a cutie?

>> No.25309833

>>25285076
>>25285171
Your cousin will never admit that she takes pleasure in shitting just like any other person. How hypocritical and pathetic! She's ashamed of her own pleasures!

>> No.25310448

>>25308740
Deliberately getting your partner jealous is common.

>> No.25311371

Battler Blanco

Jorge Gordo

Satoko (en pelotas)

Mariaは

Bern (forma gato)

>> No.25311589
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moshi moshi, Mion desu

>> No.25312151

>>25311589
(°3°)

>> No.25312331

>>25268283
did erika's boyfriend cheating on her cause her to give up on men and turn gay?

>> No.25312412

>>25312331
yes. it also caused her to develop S/m tendencies. in a relationship, Erika needs to either be in total control or be totally controlled to feel safe.

>> No.25312448

>>25307793
why does this make sense? Fuck

>> No.25312489
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25312489

Can someone help me out with Trianthology? It keeps giving me gibberish error messages whenever I try to play it, and sometimes something about 00.txt line. My pc is old but I don't think it's THAT old that it doesn't support the game, all the other 07thExpansion games work fine.

>> No.25312494

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X76lu7TCvOg
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>> No.25312566

>>25289103
there are certainly aspects of haworthia that were passed onto ciconia, such as the 8MS and the overall setting, but it's impossible to know how much of haworthia made it into ciconia so far

albeit i'd guess not much besides the setting, since it wouldn't take more than a couple seconds of googling for haworthia to get the entirety of ciconia spoiled otherwise

>> No.25312606

>>25312489
I would plow Alice on a nightly basis, it's too bad she hung herself

>> No.25312619

>>25312489
are you running it in japanese local?

>> No.25312650

WISDOM 18721205

>> No.25312771
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the only good character

>> No.25312801

>>25312771
seshat is the only one no one else matters hail our egyptian grandmaster

>> No.25312840

>>25312619
Thanks mate, that worked. It's probably something obvious I'm not the most tech savvy person so...

>> No.25312861

>>25312650
>1872-12-05
>1908-06-30
>1994-03-05
so these are dates, right? any idea what events they might be pointing to?

>> No.25312948

>>25312771
Seshat is hot as fuck. Easily one of the best R07 female designs.

>> No.25312975

>>25312861
1872
>Ship the Mary Celeste is discovered mysteriously abandoned by her crew in the Atlantic Ocean
1908
>The Tunguska event was a large explosion that occurred near the Podkamennaya Tunguska River in Yeniseysk Governorate
1994
>Largest milkshake made; 1,955 gallons of chocolate in Nelspruit, South Africa
you're welcome :)

>> No.25312994

>>25312861
December 05 of 1872 marks the finding of a missing ship named Mary Celeste whose crew disappeared

June 30 of 1908 has the Tunguska event, which was basically a huge explosion theorized to have been caused by the impact of a meteorite with the strength of 10–15 megatons of TNT (devastated a good chunk of a forest)

as for the 1994 event, I couldn't find anything that stood out really, unless you count Without You by Mariah Carey hitting the top 5 hits which was apparently notorious at the time

>> No.25313097

>>25312861
>>25312975
>>25312994
Wisdom seem to be OOPArts. It's pretty easy to tie the first two (Wisdoms 18721305 and 19080630) to scenarios where such an artifact could be found (finding an OOPArt on a ghost ship or a meteorite crash are perfectly on character), but the lack of continuity when taking the date approach once you get to 19940305 makes it all crumble.

>> No.25313157

>>25312975
I knew it, the giant milkshakes are coming from space to conquer us all.

>> No.25313211
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>>25312412
yes, she's still able to at least create a regular (?) friendship with dlanor.

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>>25313097
Literally nothing relevant happened until the very next day apparently, and even then there is nothing that could possibly tie into the whole 'finding ooparts' thing we have going for the other two.
The only way one could fit 19940305 into the date approach would therefore be that we have an entirely fictitious event taking place only on the ciconia timeline, which would honestly break the whole premise of a fair mystery from the start that Higurashi and Umineko fulfilled and that Ryukishi stated Ciconia would also fulfill, even if an unconventional one.

>> No.25313301

>>25313211
the dlanor-erika relationship is a nice subplot. erika starts off in the position of authority as dlanor's superior, and she basically just behaves like an abusive boss, but when she's at her lowest point and dlanor doesn't use it as an opportunity to stab her in the back she's able to open up and accept her kindness in earnest, and you get the sense that she's only playing the role of villain in 8 as part of berns keikaku.

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>>25311589

>> No.25314139
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25314139

Anon with TRT problems back again, now the game actually opens, but when the dialogue begins after the little cutscene thing it gives me a "[string "--direct.lua"]:5022: attempt to index upvalue 'fh' (a nil value)" message. I swear, the universe doesn't wanna let me play this retarded shit.

>> No.25314281

>>25311589
I don't wanna hear you, put your boobs on the phone

>> No.25314311

>>25313245
19580920, 19581019

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>>25313301
yeah, erika called her an emotionless doll and treated her like a tool, so seeing her genuinely soften up after Dlanor helped her was very heartwarming. I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff, imagine if Natsuhi and Eva managed to become close friends after one stood up for the other.

>> No.25314364

speaking of trianthology it's pretty funny how it came packaged in a Wii game case

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>>25314346
Damn, that ending when Erika died and Dlanor didn't know what to do...
Had more impact than Beato's death to me.

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>>25287251
Here you go, idiot

>> No.25315900
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25315900

Has there been any news about Ciconia's Phase 2 release date?

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>>25315900
No

>> No.25315941

>>25315914
Aww shiet, well I hope we got some info soon,hmm maybe we'll get Phase 2 the same day we got Phase 1.

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Spiritium makes an ammonia/piss smell when used. The ammonia smell comes from the "amine" group of organic molecules which commonly contains carbon, nitrogen and hydrogen. I find it hard to believe the pre-AW3 world simply never found these vast deposits of energy. What if spiritium was created during WW3, and it's a onions green situation where the 10 billion people that lived before the war are the origin of this fuel. Spiritium, or "spirit" is the essence of a person you could say. This might also explain why there's such a taboo on the details of WW3. In addition it might explain why the sea of glass has "rare spiritium" underneath it. I don't really think I'm exactly correct but I have a sense I'm onto something. I think the true nature of spiritium and the truth of WW3 are keys to understanding the story.

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Spiritium makes an ammonia/piss smell when used. The ammonia smell comes from the "amine" group of organic molecules which commonly contains carbon, nitrogen and hydrogen. These are the basic elements that life is made from. I find it hard to believe the pre-AW3 world simply never found these vast deposits of energy. What if spiritium was created during WW3, and it's a onions green situation where the 10 billion people that lived before the war are the origin of this fuel. Spiritium, or "spirit" is the essence of a person you could say. This might also explain why there's such a taboo on the details of WW3. In addition it might explain why the sea of glass has "rare spiritium" underneath it. I don't really think I'm exactly correct but I have a sense I'm onto something. I think the true nature of spiritium and the truth of WW3 are keys to understanding the story.

>> No.25316130

>>25316003
Yeah I agree with you, I also have that feeling that spiritium has something to do with that but at the same time I feel that Ryukishi07 is going to put a weird spin to it.
Maybe Spiritium has something to do with what Miayo saw on that creppy dream.

>> No.25316161

>>25315900
Do we have any idea who the fuck those two people actually were

>> No.25316167

>>25316003
There is a theory that says that Spiritium is from human/animal corpses.

>Spiritium fields are found where human massacres have occured (One in Atlantis, another under the Glass Sea,). The biggest and rarest one is found in LATO, likely due to what has been considered the largest genocide: colonization of America.
>When the anti-stench 8MS stops working, spiritium pollution is described as "an intense smell of ammonia". During decomposition of a corpse, the ammonia produced accumulates over time.
>If great massacres (and, with them, accumulation of corpses) are the source of Spiritium, that points to a very specific type of economic motivation behind World War 4, where profits for spiritium companies would increase as more and more people die.
>only humans can do the Dreissig Conversion (conversion of spiritium into energy). Carbohydrates are needed to expel ammonia from the body, so it makes sense that Gauntlet Knights need so much sugar after battle.
From https://twitter.com/CALlSTOYEW/status/1184452673132814336

>> No.25316329

So, for the MEGA collection, should I add cosplay & javs? Most of what I'd add would just be stuff you could find on exhentai or idol complex anyways.

>> No.25316345

>>25316329
Oh, and h-manga doujins as well I guess.

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let me think about it . . .

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UAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>25316398
uuu-uuu-uuu!

>> No.25316562

>>25312861
Anybody tried converting the dates from non-gregorian calendars?

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>>25315835
Thank you very much, anon.

>> No.25316763

>>25316562
How would you even know where to start - there are way too many variations, aren't there?
I thought it might make sense for the dates to be in B2W, placing them roughly around the time of the life of Jesus which would make some sense thematically (1B2W would be one year before the first world war started, so 1913, in which case 1872B2W would be around 41AD, 1908 would be 5AD and 1994 would be 81BC.)

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25316808

reposting from last thread

>> No.25316819

>>25316763
wait, I'm being retarded, that would be the first world war.
uh, correcting for the brainfart the dates should correspond to 55BC, 31AD and 67AD

>> No.25316835

>>25316808
What if it's 1994 BC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20th_century_BC

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>>25305655
AHAHAHAHHAHAH FINALLY!! THANK YOU ANON~!

>> No.25317062

>>25315900
I don't get why people complain about Ciconia's release date.
Phase 1 isn't even a year out yet. Considering how long it was, that's a pretty normal timeframe for Ryukishi.

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>>25316835
1994 BC would line up with Egyptian times. The "pillar with 8 wings" could be a Djed pillar (see pic).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djed

Interestingly the pillar was said to contain the body of the god Osiris in Egyptian legend. A modern interpretation could be that this was an alien in a vessel/ship/escape pod that crashed to earth (also that's a very Evangelion type of thing to happen).

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>>25316763
If something like that is necessary I'm sure there are clues around. The first thing that comes to my mind is a reference to one of the councils of Carthage, the one where the book of revelation was canonized I think? According to wikipedia the referenced date should be 28 August 397, did Ciconia give a different year or date? I may also be completely imagining this reference since I'm extremely tired right now, because in the Ciconia world the book wasn't actually canonized at that council from what I remember.

>> No.25317216

>>25317062
>considering it's length
It was only like 14 hours?

Also, r07 has always followed a pattern with every vn he's released. Taking 4 months, then taking 8, then back to 4, and so on. Chapters/Episodes would get released in both August and December each year. The only exception is himatsubushi which took a year.
Even Higanbana and Rose Guns Days followed this format (except Last Season which took 5 months instead of 4, releasing in Jan). Trianthology was also released in August.
His special released like Higurashi Hou and RGD The Best were also released in August.

However, he released Ciconia and Saku in October last year. He didn't follow his format, and hasn't followed up on schedule either. Is phase 2 that rare exception? Or is Ciconia as a whole the exception?

>> No.25317303

>>25317216
2020 being an absolute shitfest is the exception I think

>> No.25317327

>>25317303
2020 is the miracle that destroyed Ryukishi's certain release dates

>> No.25317329

>>25317303
I can understand that, but also makes me wonder what made him release Phase 1 and Saku in October instead of August/December like he's always done before.

>> No.25317360

>>25317329
It was delayed from August Comiket to October the same way RGD Season 4 got kicked to January, which is also why both Full OPs were released well before the games came out.

>> No.25317365

>>25304505
I think the anime made it clear that it wasn't due to sexual abuse. Instead they made it look like Satoshi was the sexual abuser instead.

>> No.25317408

>>25312994
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDx9mExtQWs
no luck here either, but
>whitewater prosecutor is demanding a new pathologist's report on the shooting death of one Vincent Foster, the Clinton aide who was working on the whitewater affair when he apparently committed suicide - and the rose law firm where Mr. Foster and Hillary Clinton were once close colleagues has been accused of shredding documents relevant to the investigation
some things never change, eh?

>> No.25317422

>>25307782
Teppei didn't have more time in Tatarigoroshi than he did in Minagoroshi before the teacher and the social workers arrived to annoy him.
The tips are just there to make people aware of the issues.

>> No.25317439

>>25308133
The worst character in Umineko and Higurashi is Kinzo because he's both a mass murderer, a pedophile and an incestuous rapist.
Next down the line are characters like Kyrie and Takano, then Rudolf and Teppei etc.

>> No.25317441

>>25317422
why would you gaslight like that? for what purpose?

>> No.25317451

>>25317441
??

>> No.25317508

>>25317451
Yes, he did have more time in tatarigoroshi. In mina, chie showed up at his house the first day Satoko missed school, and Teppei attributed the social worker who showed up at his house later that evening to her meddling as well. In tatari it takes something like three or four days until K and his friends decide to call the child consultation centre, Teppei blames Satoko for it and the next scene we get is her breakdown an Keiichi's 1500 seconds monologue.

>> No.25317512

I wonder if we'll get any news about Phase 2 from Comiket.

>> No.25317596

If you change the letters in A3W to their position on the alphabet you get 1323 (the year Thomas Aquinas was canonised)

Probably just a coincidence but I thought it was cool enough to mention

>> No.25317867

>>25317512
There is no Comiket this year.

>> No.25317879

>>25317867
I thought it was going to be held online.

>> No.25318008
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25318008

ara-ara Maebara-kun

>> No.25318051

>>25318008
I want Chie and Chloe to have passionate lesbian intercourse

>> No.25318127

>>25317879
I think it's 07th Party you're talking about. This one will be held online on November 8th.
Summer Comiket 2020 is canceled and Winter Comiket is postpone to May 2021.

>> No.25318139

>>25318008
the steam sprites are eroge-tier desu

>> No.25318152

>>25318127
But I guess circles/artists will sales their works online to compensate.

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25318255

>>25318139
You think so too?

>> No.25318443

>>25318255
It's not really a good thing. OG sprites look lewd enough in their own dorky way, especially when they blush. That kind of lewdness is great for the story Higurashi aims to be. Chie wearing form-fitting clothes and staring straight at the reader with bedroom eyes is just distracting though, and the same goes for the steam-edition Satoko towel sprites. The purpose of the original naked Satoko sprites is to communicate to the reader that she's pathetic and vulnerable, not to accentuate how shapely loli bodies can be.

>> No.25318807

>>25318443
Jessica's OG blushing sprite is the lewdest.

>> No.25318906

>>25306943
Satoko is not cute enough to un-brainwash her uncle! Pathetic!

>> No.25318945

>>25307793
>the contrast between their pride and their shameful human condition causes humiliation
Does Ange even have any pride?

>> No.25319038

>>25318443
Blushing Shion is damn lewd, I hate how understated abd barely visible the blushes are in the crappy console sprites. It's the same problem that plagues modern anime.

>> No.25319100

>>25318443
If you're getting distracted by form-fitting clothes in a visual novel you should just stop masturbating to hentai every day.

>> No.25319831

>>25311371
>Satoko (en pelotas)
Lmao

>> No.25320498

>>25317365
What if Satoshi killed his aunt because she caught him buttfucking Satoko?

>> No.25322868

>>25320498
She probably liked it too. What a slut.
Rika is the same but at least she has the excuse of being an old witch.

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I wanna be recruited into Vier's Fun Conspiracy Science Bunker

>> No.25325035

>>25324215
The lab was comfy as hell because the scientists were focused on their favorite research and didn't have to care about appearances or tone down their autistic hand flapping when they made some progress.

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>>25275475

>> No.25325382

>>25318051
never knew how much i needed this until now

>> No.25325534

>>25275475
Why is the text display on this so shit?

>> No.25325714

>>25325035
vier's lab is the original, old /b/

>> No.25328255

>>25315835
>be Elliot Rodger
>try to kill roasties in their sororiety
>get stopped by a locked door and a barely attentive sister who notices that you're looking off
>well shit I've got all these loaded guns
>kill your harmless korean roommates instead
>they weren't even women
>what was the point

>> No.25328288

>>25328255
Perhaps he was a true supreme gentlemen and trying to avenge the victims of Cho Seung Hui while also casting blame on hapas. Actually wait how was Cho Seung Hui so successful?

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>>25275475

>> No.25330779

What if both Vier's lab and the three kings stem from the collective anxiety and fear of the unknown and are as such the fictitious unreliable part of Ciconia analogous to Umineko's meta world and Higurashi's hallucinations?

Vier representing the sum of the unpredictability and complexity of nature plus the existential dread of dealing with the disastrous consequences of human action over it, which often leads to conspiracies as means to cope with fear

And the three kings representing the dread of being unable to act as individuals in a complex society and feeling subjected to something higher, which also leads to conspiracy theories as means of coping with the individual insignificance of the self over those two complex, chaotic systems that we are a part of but cannot control as individuals: nature and society

>> No.25330885

>>25330779
That would be a gritty way to follow through, which is good. Umineko was in itself very gritty after all, with magic embellishing the raw, gritty reality. I'd like it if done correctly, the political commentary was very surface level so far.

>> No.25330920

>>25330885
By having no one singular enemy, humanity ends up having to swallow the bitter pill that it owes its suffering only to itself.

>> No.25330932

>>25330779
We haven't seen the 'unreliable narration' element at all. Given how much R07 loves it it's bound to show up somewhere, if not this it will be something else.

>> No.25331022

>>25330932
I know we haven't, which is why I'm offering the hypothesis of it being what I've said. The entire world shall remember my smugness if I end up being correct.

Although I admit it to be unlikely, given we don't have enough info so far. Still proud of my abstraction tho

>> No.25331261

>>25330885
>the political commentary was very surface level so far.
the "let's talk about politics" sections are surface-level if taken at face value, but imo that's not the right level of analysis.
there's a good amount of implicit depth in what characters from the various dystopias consider "normal", what they think about the B3W world, how they reconcile the intercultural differences between their societies, how much of their political reality they're even aware of. a lot of the dialogue is characters coping with being word-filtered conformists, farmed winners, factory-babies without real familial bonds and so on.

>> No.25331393

>>25331261
not to mention having their career paths chosen for them and being turned into schizos by their parallel processing training.

>> No.25331954

>>25316003
>>25316167
I think this is right, but on another level Spiritium is the virtual representation of dormant brains in the matrix, and performing the Dreissig Conversion means commandeering their processing power (hence why you need a human intelligence to do it, and why CPPs can do it more effectively.)
On a related note, I wonder whether CPPs actually have DID or are just several separate brains wired together.

>> No.25332084

>>25331954
>On a related note, I wonder whether CPPs actually have DID or are just several separate brains wired together.
So what are Meow/Miyao/Blue Miyao?

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>>25331261
I'd appreciate it more if they acted like normal teenagers, honestly. There is this strange disconnect from what a real dialogue is supposed to be that settles whenever they start going on a rhetorical tangent, and it ends up feeling like Rhetabile or Stanislaw and everyone else involved in the conversation are just group reading from the same textbook without any particular tone or interpretation, which comes in detriment of their individuality. I cannot, for instance, distinguish between multiple of the characters when it comes to their personalities. You could switch names and sprites and it would often still feel like they're the same person, so to speak.

I hope that changes, but it doesn't feel like an intentional design choice so much as it feels like a last resort expository dump to make up for Ryukishi's questionable choice of compressing a very large story into four instead of eight chapters as used to be the case. And the political commentary ends up feeling one dimensional and shallow as a result, since politics are after all the result of a conflict of interests which is more often than not very nuanced and requires intersectional, individual analysis, which cannot be summed up by unison expository dumps. I hope it all turns out better and more fleshed out as the story progresses.

also hail jestress

>> No.25332497

>>25331954
That second idea sure is something. Yeah, if the ciconia-matrix is a huge brain-server farm, then parallel processing and DID could be explained as using multiple brains for storage and processing of a single person, with each brain stem functioning as a separate core.

>> No.25332546

>>25332475
a good way of making it 'feel more natural' would be for the characters to express their interests and opinions through emotions and based on their own experiences, instead of those 'expository dumps'
I feel like I'm being told a lot of things, none of which is being shown and it's frustrating.

>> No.25332551

>>25331261
Imagine all those discord trannies reading about this word-filtering crap and agreeing with it while failing to notice the obvious satire and criticism.

>> No.25332584

>>25332551
as much as I dislike sjws, it's not supposed to be a critic to 'political correctness'

>> No.25332606

>>25332551
I'll take you never interacted with such people, because they don't exactly agree with it. At least not that I've seen.

>> No.25332686

>>25332475
>but it doesn't feel like an intentional design choice
I mean, they do imply that most of these characters are either being polite/lying about their opinions to get along with foreign soldiers or literally brainwashed by the PC cult after a lifetime of social engineering.

Only Toujirou is old and wise enough to see past the bullshit he's been fed by the dystopian PC media and think for himself.

>> No.25332715

>>25332606
Calling them "people" is giving those insects too much credit.

>> No.25332749

>>25332084
Well, by following >>25331954 's logic, one would assume Miyao's different personalities to be different minds programmed into one avatar. Although it sounds really confusing and it's not hard to poke holes on it if you think for a second: wouldn't a simulation be the perfect scenario for multiple consciousness to have their own separate avatars?

>> No.25332773

>>25306943
This rant is pretty random but I agree with all of it, especially the circumcision bit. Customary genital mutilation of infants should be outlawed and it's insane how it just keeps happening because the USA as a whole is incapable of acknowledging that their parents fucked them up.

>> No.25332836

>>25307793
>being attracted to any girls at all is nonsense unless you are into humiliation
You can like them aesthetically without wanting to fuck their asses, which doesn't require humiliation. But it's almost impossible for a human not to be into humiliation to some degree, so it's a moot point.

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>>25332584
lmao, sure thing.

>> No.25332886

>>25332749
I agree it's a little shaky. It could also only apply to certain CPPs? Either way, Miyao's "system" does seem somewhat different than the others.

>> No.25332900

>>25332686
Aren't all of the slightly 'magical' characters technically very out of what is supposed to be common sense within Ciconia's world?
Jestress, Seshat, Toujirou himself, Vier, etc.
none of them seem to care about what could be understood as common sense

>> No.25332912

>>25332859
It's scary how these poor faggots have have been raised with the idea that this kind of shit is perfectly reasonable. This is what awaits humanity unless "they" join the 43%. The era of cucks is already here.

>> No.25332945

>>25332686
Jayden will take the reddest of pills at the end and become the best character in the story.

>> No.25332954

>>25332859
what does this have to do with Keropoyo croaking swears out

>> No.25333003

>>25332945
Batallador blanco

Jorge gordo

Maria autista

Jayden (basado y rojo-empastillado)

Gunhild culo plano

Miyao esquizofrenico

>> No.25333019

>>25332686
all characters that seem to be aware of Ciconia as a gameboard (Seshat, Jestress, Toujirou himself, Vier) act without much regard to common sense, not so much because they are 'redpilled' (?) as it is simply meant to simbolize that they see it from a perspective that pieces cannot, much like everyone besides the witch and the detective in Umineko or Rika in Higurashi

>> No.25333033

>>25332475
The number of characters in the bath scenes is the problem. There's a dozen people who all have to say something, and they don't have enough space to express any character. These scenes are already boring enough since *nothing happens* in them.

>> No.25333054 [DELETED] 

I wish Ryukishi just went behind on his word and took his time to develop and flesh out everyone. It's too much for too little space. 4 episodes will hardly do it, it's inevitably bound to leave a good chunk of the cast without development.

>> No.25333095

>>25333033
I wish Ryukishi went behind on his word and took his time to flesh out everyone individually. With so little time and space, it's bound to leave a good chunk of the cast without development.

>> No.25333096

>>25332954
Oh, you're talking about the keropoyo wordfilters specifically. I thought you meant to say that ciconia in general didn't have PC-critical elements. Let me see
>malware installed directly into your brain that monitors everything you say and physically prevents you from breaking hatespeech laws by censoring problematic content in real time
>in addition to the prescribed censorship, users willingly install custom blacklists to avoid offending each other on accident
sure sounds like sci-fi 1984 to me

>> No.25333131

>>25333019
Toujirou seemed to be somewhere outside the matrix when he fucked with the gauntlet. And Seshat is heavily implied to be just an avatar inside the matrix, that's why she can erase her presence from cameras so easily. She is actually someone outside the matrix.

>> No.25333178

>>25333096
Yes, it is very dystopic and it certainly is a critic of authoritarianism and thought policing very reminiscent of 1984 and other works of the sort, but it is NOT a critic of 'political correctness'. When Orwell wrote 1984 he wasn't concerned with trannies being able to live without being bullied, he was concerned with statist powerhouses crushing everyone under the will of the state in both Germany and the USSR, which, mind you, neither cared about minorities.

>> No.25333210

>>25333178
>it's not censorship if we do it to stop people from bullying trannies
ah yes, and of course you'd define bullying as "invalidating their sense of identity" or something similarly orwellian.

>> No.25333215

>>25333210
lol

>> No.25333249

>>25333210
You are not being oppressed for being unable to tell people to kill themselves on social media, Little Johnny. That's not what freedom means. You're just victimizing yourself.

>> No.25333311

>>25333210
you do know that a good chunk of WTC is dedicated to fleshing out stories about characters whose existence apparently triggers you, right?

>> No.25333314

>>25333249
do you believe the only reason to be critical of trans identity is because you're a hateful bigot? that the science is settled and we just need to learn to be unquestioningly accepting of any and all alternative lifestyles? that's the attitude >>25332859 makes fun of. it's not about the right to send people death threats or scream fire in a burning theatre. obviously that's not included in free speech.

>> No.25333364

>>25333178
>trannies being able to live without being bullied
The problem with trannies is that they feel the need to hop into every single social justice movement whether it has anything to do with their issues or not. They are so addicted to having the moral high ground that they'll gladly support any kind of dystopian censorship as long as it makes them feel like "good people". They are mindless drones for the most part. And when they are hated for being so fucking EVIL, their sick minds interpret it as "alt-right nazis" hating them for being trannies. That's not true. They are hated because 90% of them fall into the SJW trap and become part of that cult after one of its members shows them a little sympathy. It's not a minority, the majority of them are raging SJWs who have lost all ability to reason and don't have a single drop of mercy for whoever they consider "sinful".

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the absolute state of humanity

>> No.25333410

>>25333311
Should reading about or interacting with people who have belief systems that contradict mine trigger me? Sorry, it doesn't. I love Ryukishi's writing and it's easy to understand and feel empathy for his characters, even when you disagree with their outlook on life, their self-conception or their actions.

>> No.25333414
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25333414

Fuck off, politicucks.

>> No.25333460

>>25333380
The fact that my waifu is part of humanity is the lewdest fact in the world. It paints her in a negative light and dirties her image, causing a great deal of h-u-m-i-l-i-a-t-i-o-n.

>> No.25333518

>>25333414
I mean, Ciconia is about modern politics, it's bound to happen at some point.

>> No.25333554

>>25333414
I think it's nice that we have a broad spectrum of people posting in /07thexpansion/.

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imagine if trannies and edgelords just realized they share most of the essential common goals as in being able to achieve the same level of sadness and disfunction as everyone else in society instead of dragging each other down in a social reject battle royale while the people with real power point and laugh from ivory towers

>> No.25333691

SJWs have a skewed, black-and-white view of reality, which draws them towards Ryuukishi's works because he's tolerant and shows sympathy for all kinds of people. They interpret this as Ryu being an insane SJW like them, since in their mind the world is divided in evil alt-right nazis and noble SJWs. Since Ryu shows empathy for the mentally ill and sexual minorities, he is not a "bigot" and therefore must be an SJW. This is how their fucked up minds work.

>> No.25333716

>>25333691
You're the only one spouting this point of view so far, sweetie.

>> No.25333744

>>25333691
dude, at this point you're projecting

>> No.25333748

>>25333716
>sweetie
Condescending tranny detected.

It's true. These people genuinely think Ryuukishi is a puritan faggot like them.

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>25333691
>25333748
pic related

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>>25333748

>> No.25333838

For some reason I think the ending of Ciconia will be like:
>the gang literally fly out of Earth's atmosphere into space and fuck up some 3000 year old assholes

>> No.25333848

>>25333554
Sometimes it feels like a zoo expo. Which makes me wonder, do the animals at the zoo realize their situation?

>> No.25333882

>>25333716
>>25333744
>>25333766
I'm not spouting any of my own views, projecting or being edgy. I didn't state any of my opinions.

I'm just explaining how discord trannies think and why such people (tumblrinas too) gravitate to Ryu's works, mistakenly believing he is some sort of social justice warrior who shares their ideals. I've spent a lot of time interacting with that side of the fandom and I can confirm it's true. They actually think like that.

>> No.25333906

>>25333848
it makes me miss the erikanontrice cow sometimes

>> No.25333911

>>25333716
except >>25333311 and >>25333178 are doing exactly what that anon describes. "W-what, how can you enjoy Ryukishi's work if he's portraying trans characters sympathetically?!? You criticize tranny ideology, so that means you must hate all tranners! You want to bully them and ruin their lives, admit it bigot!"
Many of you just can't seem to understand that it's possible to respect someones right to self-determination and even empathize with them while disagreeing with the choices they make. Because it's a mode of thought alien to SJW ideology. To you, people who make choices you disagree with are immoral.

>> No.25333958

Nanjoの80s sex reassignment surgery

>> No.25333964

ok erika, you've intellectually raped everyone with facts and logic, we'll take your input into consideration

>> No.25333965

>>25333848
Would a human even realize their situation if born in a zoo exhibit and never taught English or anything else.

>> No.25333966

>>25333691
This why I refuse to openly support homos and shit like that, people will think I'm an sjw. I'd rather pretend I don't have an opinion on the matter or even go against them if necessary. Their cult-like mentality makes people who would otherwise support them turn their backs to them in disgust, because they don't want crazy sjws to see them as allies.

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>>25333958
Nanjo Pós Tercera Guerra

>> No.25334044
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25334044

>>25333964
as long as you understand

>> No.25334058

>>25333958
Yasuの41%

>> No.25334146

>>25334044
>Ackchyually

>> No.25334148

>>25333911
>You want to bully them and ruin their lives, admit it bigot!
I mean, I would love to see them suffer and kill themselves. That's true. But only because they are all SJWs who wish even worse things on innocent people who have done nothing wrong, dehumanizing them for "wrongthink". And they would certainly carry out those threats with a self-righteous smile on their faces, have no doubt.

I have no problem with nice trannies like LHC, for example, and I wish her the best. Although she's surrounded by an insufferable troupe of absolutely despicable individuals who see themselves as good and righteous people.

>> No.25334217

The kids are coming of age in this orwellian nightmare where you can't even have a politically incorrect opinion about the jewish question
what's next, babies with breast implants?
i live in constant fear

>> No.25334237

>>25334148
I realize you do, I'm just saying I don't.

>> No.25334365

>>25334148
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Sjws are the embodiment of human stupidity. The more just and righteous you are, the more you despise irrationally and injustice, the more their utterly misguided actions will fill your heart with pure hatred and resentment. Just let it go and move on, think of them as forces of nature. They'll never cause THAT much damage to culture, entertainment or society, they'll just fuck up a few things and move to the next target. Just bear with it without feeling such hatred, it poisons the soul and ruins it. It's pointless.

>> No.25334422

>>25334217
I know you're joking, but
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation#Gender_dysphoria
state-enforced bioengineered gender dysphoria seems like a neat dystopian sci-fi concept.

>> No.25334449

>>25334148
>worse things
That's quite the understatement. Sjws are bloodthirsty sick fucks.

>> No.25334455 [DELETED] 

>>25334148
>>25333911
as an official member of the prestigious VIP committee of trannies, I'd like to invite you to consider that not once so far have I cried or complained so far, whereas it was said several times by some anons that they'd like people like me to kill ourselves and other things of the sort, which I hope we can agree don't sound quite as rational and agreeable as one ought to hope

maybe, uhm, think about the kind you're fostering in other people? I do know that some sjws are very annoying and I have distanced myself from several groups like that, but please, sjws are literally just a bunch of people living in bubbles and they do not directly reflect the people who'll end up being hurt the most by this kind of rhetoric you're fostering, which are not responsible for what catgirl lily #243 is saying on her twitter and are really just trying to go through this rather miserable life without having to be treated like trash, pronouns it and spit, which is the treatment a lot of us get in real life.

I don't associate with tumblr teenagers, I'm a biological female in my twenties, close to death I know leave a comment before I die

>> No.25334495

>>25334148
>>25333911
as an official member of the prestigious VIP committee of trannies, I'd like to invite you to consider that not once have I cried or complained so far, whereas it was said several times by some anons that they'd like people like me to kill ourselves and other things of the sort, which I hope we can agree don't sound quite as rational and agreeable as one ought to hope

maybe, uhm, think about the kind of sentiment you're fostering in other people? I do know that some sjws are very annoying and I have distanced myself from several groups like that, but please, sjws are literally just a bunch of people living in bubbles and they do not directly reflect the people who'll end up being hurt the most by this kind of rhetoric you're fostering, which are not responsible for what catgirl lily #243 is saying on her twitter and are really just trying to go through this rather miserable life without having to be treated like trash, pronouns it and spit, which is the treatment a lot of us get in real life.

I don't associate with tumblr teenagers, I'm a biological female in my twenties, close to death I know leave a comment before I die

>> No.25334583

>>25334455
I have no problem with you cutting off your dick or wanting me to use female pronouns when referring to you. But you have to admit that trannies are associated with SJWs for a reason. I wouldn't hate you by default without knowing what kind of person you are, but I'd be understandably prejudiced against your kind because I know from experience that 99% of you are raging SJWs. I'd be on my guard until I'm sure you are not a piece of shit, and then I'd feel like I found a fucking unicorn.

>> No.25334713

>>25334583
Trans people are a minority both socially and quantitatively, meaning I'm sure that you didn't meet that many in person. Your notion probably come from the 2016 tumblrwars between /v/ and sjws, which is very... skewed, to say the least. Most of us are normal people trying to get through life. I study, I have a job, I'm in fact asexual and do not wanna go around looking to have sex with anyone, I just wanna live my life in peace. As someone who values freedom (as I believe most here do as well), I hope we can agree that tolerating the right for other people to live as they see fit is much more coherent with freedom principles than condemning and bashing people for being themselves.

You probably hate when sjws go around screaming that all men are rapist, all white people are racist and other things of the sort. Don't do the same to minorities. Just like you're, I hope, not part of some creepy KKK cult, I am not part of any sinister neomarxist cult hellbent on destroying the west. We have no reason to be at each others throat. Judge people individually and for their actions instead of the actions of others, as you would probably like to be judged.

I just fear you might, even if not intentionally, foster a lot of hatred and animosity towards innocent people who don't deserve it. We can be better than that.

>> No.25334784

>>25334583
dude, any amount of energy spent thinking about what sjws are talking about is too much, you should probably take some time to think about why you feel so strongly about all of this

>> No.25334812

>>25334455
I can't stop alt-right tradcucks from saying hurtful things about your identity group, just like I can't stop commies from calling all cops pigs, feminists from ridiculing MRAs or atheists from obliterating religious identities. The idea of "responsible" platforming might sound reasonable to you, but it isn't workable in practice. I say what I believe is true and call out people when I think they're saying stupid shit, and that's good enough. You can't oppress people into being nice.

>> No.25334865
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ITT: a bunch of hateful virgins more engrossed in tranny ideology than trannies themselves.

>> No.25334984

>>25334865
One of the privileges of being a tranny is that you'll never have to pay rent, given you live rent free on so many people's heads

>> No.25335002

Umineko is literally a postmodern manifesto, what did you expect

>> No.25335046

umineko creates marxist boobjobed antifa supersoldier babies and is LITERALLY going to destroy the world you all just wait

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>>25335046

>> No.25335131

Umineko was basically a warning for what is to come if trannies and schizos are allowed to do as they please, now we pay the price for not listening to Ryukishi-sama.

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>>25335102

>> No.25335154

>>25334495
do you really think the kind of interactions you see itt foster hate? isn't it just that some of the posts are an expression of hate? I'd think the overall result would be temperance, not radicalization.

>> No.25335167

man I love having a functional dick
I'll never understand trannies

>> No.25335224

so this is how politics ends
with low-effort shitposting

>> No.25335235

>>25335046
No Umineko is genuinely a postmodern manifesto
>>25335167
Most mtf trannies don't want to lose their dick. Yasu goes mad because he has no dick.

>> No.25335260

>>25335154
No way, people suddenly started seething about trannies out of nowhere a few years back and it started because of posts on here which other people started listening to. Newfags think you have to hate trannies to blend in because they never learned about the
>I wanna be the little girl
meme

>> No.25335265

>>25334713
>Most of us are normal people trying to get through life. I study, I have a job, I'm in fact asexual and do not wanna go around looking to have sex with anyone, I just wanna live my life in peace. As someone who values freedom (as I believe most here do as well), I hope we can agree that tolerating the right for other people to live as they see fit is much more coherent with freedom principles than condemning and bashing people for being themselves.
I feel exactly the same, word for word (except for the asexual part). I hope you can understand why I fucking despise SJWs for standing against all of that, hating people like me with a PASSION as if all pedos were potential molesters rather than normal people and seeking to destroy and censor every form of media I love. It makes my blood boil. Just leave us alone.

I think the same way you do. And I don't hate trannies for simply being trannies. I just despise SJWs for pretty damn legitimate reasons, mainly their irrational and puritanical belief in thought crime. And sadly, a high percentage of them happen to be LGBTwhatever people. That doesn't mean I'll hate anyone who is part of those minorities by default, but I'll be wary of them and run away at the slightest hint of that cursed ideology. I've been proven right way too many times and I've sort of lost all hope with them. Obviously there are gays and trannies who are not like that, but it's so hard to find them, they may as well not exist.

>> No.25335284

>>25335260
Fuck them newfags

>> No.25335291

>>25335167
I mean, if it brings you happiness, I'm genuinely happy for you. I wish I felt the same, but it turns out I don't, and in fact none of my very sacred passages are that interesting to me personally (and neither are other people's), so I take most of the pleasure I find in life from things like reading, swimming and good gourmet. Which is why I came here initially, to talk about how much I love Jestress and tinfoil about WTC, but I ended up having to talk about my suspended fuckhole for the greater good.

Thanks, Erika.

>> No.25335365

It funny how the Kizuna sound effect is the same as the sound effect when we use the magnet on Zelda : Breath of The Wild.

>> No.25335373

>>25335260
it's more that the old paradigm where we used to call each other niggers and faggots broke down when lefties started throwing incel around as a hot new buzzword, which exploded into an entire landscape of retarded /pol/shit stereotypes, insults and counter-insults, from cucks to soiaboys, from sweety to sweaty, and tranny was the thing that stuck, ultimately.
we didn't start the flamewar, though I do wish we could go back

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I'm a pretty open minded guy but anyone familiar with twitter's umineko "fandom" knows that gatekeeping sjws and trannies in these threads is probably a good idea

>> No.25335377

>>25335373
The fuck are you talking about, this happened way before incel started being a thing.

>> No.25335390

>>25335376
>twitter
lmao fuck off newfag

>> No.25335408

>>25335390
dont call him newfag, faggot

>> No.25335464

>>25335376
you're talking about gatekeeping us while avatarfagging as a tranny chaser

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>>25335464
>gatekeeping us

this place is doomed

>> No.25335544

>>25335464
yasu is a eunuch not a tranny

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>>25335235
Shannon wanted to be accepted and George stated that he wanted a family, which led to her idealizing the idea as the basis for her future and happiness. When she learned that she couldn't give him that, she felt as if her future had been denied.

Also she regrets not trying to live regardless and that's the message she and everyone else passes onto Ange so that she could face the absurd of life and keep on living anyway. That's a powerful message for anyone going through depression and hardly has anything to do with dicks, specially considering that even though Lion on the miracle fragment has one they still don't care much about it, but that's one way to see it I guess

>> No.25335583

>>25335502
I have seized /07/ in name of the jewtranny committee of world domination, no dicks shall be spared

>> No.25335669

>>25335583
more like no actual vn discussion will be spared in favor of shitty pol discourse

>> No.25335730

>>25335669
Yes

>> No.25335766

>>25335730
Why aren't you a politician if you like politics so much?

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>autistic antisocial cynical neet
>only cares about weebshit
/ourgirl/

>> No.25335812

>>25335766
>you know how to use the internet, therefore you should be a web designer

>> No.25335833

>>25335766
It all began because of Ciconia which is in itself a very political piece of work, so we never really went out of topic.

>> No.25335885

>>25335766
discussing something has nothing to do with liking or disliking said thing, retard

>> No.25335907

>>25335783
Sorry, gacha isn't "weebshit".

>> No.25335932

>>25335669
>actual vn discussion
THE ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO

>> No.25335955

>>25335907
even the word GACHA comes from japanese, faggot
its called like that because of japanese vending machines which are the basis for that commercial model

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I knew I'd wake up to some shit like this when I saw there were 90 new posts since last night.
At least it's not erikanon.

>> No.25336011

>>25333003
Jayden azul (no homo)

>> No.25336078

>>25335783
Yes, I love Koshka. I'm glad she's important.

>> No.25336086

>>25334713
>I just fear you might, even if not intentionally, foster a lot of hatred and animosity towards innocent people who don't deserve it. We can be better than that.
Funny how you are probably guilty of this to a much higher degree. I appreciate the sentiment, but apply these lessons to yourself. Stop hating people based on stereotypes, boogeymen and thought policing, especially those who have been effectively silenced everywhere and can't defend themselves.

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>>25336086
I never engaged in traditional activism or anything of the sort, which is what I believe you're referring to. That's a very weird way of begging the question given you don't really know me and I haven't given any sort of evidence, circumstancial of otherwise, of behaving as such while you've been acting very passive-agressive if not outright agressive for almost the entirety of the discussion, but everyone had enough of this back and forth already and I'll avoid dragging it further.
Live happily, I wish you no harm.

>> No.25336354 [DELETED] 

>>25336204
but trannyanon never stereotyped anyone, you're the one acting like a little bitch

>> No.25336382

>>25336086
trannyanon haven't stereotyped anyone so far, you're the one behaving like a massive faggot

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>>25336354
>>25336382
ok

>> No.25336454

If we take the Jestress = Lambda (or at least is based off) approach, do you think it likely that Bern was the one she was chasing at the end of the epilogue?

>> No.25336526

>>25336454
i've seen people saying that lilja could be tied into bern, but that's weird because their personalities are nothing alike and she reminds me more of lambda troll-y personality while koshka is much more like bern, but it's still weird and maybe not related at all

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gosh I wonder who could be that person defending the "trannyanon"
kekekekekek

>> No.25336714

>>25336526
I believe Lambda and Bern aren't really present in Ciconia, Ryukishi has this weird thing for making characters who look like Miyo and Rika in almost every single one of his works, but it's not consistent and albeit confusing don't often mean much more than that.

>> No.25336768

>>25336526
>>25336714
which reminds me that several years later I still don't get what the fuck was going on with Lambda, Ryu gave Bern an antifantasy equivalent in Featherine's cat but nothing has been explicitly shown to be Lambdadelta

>> No.25336887

>>25336768
don't tell me you fell for the magic isn't real meme
not everything is a metaphor

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>>25336526
Koshka is more tied into Bernkastel because she talk like Higurashi Bern-Rika, also pic related.
They're too little evidence, tho.

>> No.25336970

>>25336887
but if you take magic as meaning literal supernatural forces, it makes a lot of the story lose weight
beato and ange's talk about magic being a way of coping with the weight of a harsh life needs you to assume that magic equals fiction / escapism for it to make sense, also dlanor talking about magic just embellishing reality in her conversation with virgilia and battler, etc.

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>>25336610

>> No.25337018

>>25336906
All six AOU characters (and Meow) have something that links them to Bern, except maybe Jayden.

>> No.25337084

>>25337018
What links Gunhild to Bern?

>> No.25337218

>>25337018
warcats symbol is the most obvious red herring in history, it's literally Bern and I feel like it'll go nowhere besides being a wiki page trivia 4 years from now like almost all other past similarities between wtc works, I really don't get why Ryukishi does that

>> No.25337395

>>25337018
Jayden is male Erika

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>>25336382
If you're going to samefag do a better job of it. The conversation before that didn't even make you look that bad.

>> No.25337491

>>25337395 this post brings me joy

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>mfw I figured out Bernkastel's game by myself almost without hints
I am the most intelligent man alive

>> No.25337745

>>25337611
please, please sir tell me who is the culprit of ciconia no naku koro ni

>> No.25337770

>>25336970
this isn't a black and white thing, you can't look at magic as being either 100% fake or 100% real
there are aspects that are real, particularly in relation to bern/lamba/fragments

>> No.25337863

>>25337770
What is supposed to lead to the conclusion of magic as in supernatural forces also exist in Umineko? I genuinely don't remember if there is such a plot point

>> No.25337943

>>25337770
Something can't be 50% real, so I believe what you mean to say is that it's ambiguous and that it's impossible to say for sure whether it does or doesn't exist

>> No.25338146

is higanbana decent? i've heard mixed feedback

>> No.25338147

>>25337943
I don't mean that it's 50% real, I mean that some magic shown is 100% real while some is 100% fake. Saying that not *everything* is a metaphor doesn't mean there aren't any at all.

>>25337863
It's not a plot point so much as it's simply the world of WTC. The connection to Higurashi is blatant. Lambda even talks about Bern's past in Higurashi, and we also have Lambda's interaction with Takano. From this you can gather that Bern and Lamdba actually exist, unless you want to argue that the magic in Higurashi is a metaphor as well.

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I remembered something from the factory scene. There's some lines about how the anaesthetic keeps people from understanding their pain, and about how sometimes it wears off too early. I think this could be taken as a metaphor for understanding the world is a simulation. That's also what blue Miyao could mean when he talks about going back to that hell. If that were the case, then Vier's group are the "them" that need to be stopped, not Toujirou or the Kings. Perhaps what this other "faction" (or at least the ones that could be aware, like Toujirou) wants is to cause the end of the simulated world over and over just to stop Vier from ending it for real? It would be a weird unwinnable game, like that of Beatrice.
>>25337395
>Ryukishi literally drew Jayden cosplaying as Erika
Jayrikantrice confirmed.

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>>25338146
Its worth reading, some of the stories are actually pretty scary, others are more lighthearted and others can be a bit boring, the quality tends to jump, but its still worth giving it a read if you like Ryukishi07 writing.

>> No.25338214

>>25338146
It's worth a read just for Reaper of the Thirteenth Step.

>> No.25338277

Can't wait for the lighthearted version of Apocalypsis Ciconia that will play during the ending credits

>> No.25338395

>>25338203
>>25338214
the manga looks ok, shame I've heard it's not a good adaptation
guess I'll endure the potato curse

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>>25338146
no, it's very indecent. humiliating. lewd. not to mention pathetic.

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>>25338428

>> No.25338491

>>25338395
The manga came first actually.

>> No.25338574

>>25338491
weird that it ended up being regarded as inferior then

>> No.25338618

>>25338574
Ryukishi wrote the VN because the other versions of higanbana weren't working out, didn't he?

>> No.25338790

>>25338618
I clearly have no idea, but if you say so, that's interesting
I'll check both out soon

>> No.25339031

>>25338790
yeah its quality varies, but when it's good it's good

>> No.25339496

lmao the needle wasn't real XDDD

>> No.25339622

>>25273128
if she was not completely retarded the story would have been short and unexciting

>> No.25339624

>>25339496
haha it was just a spicy sauce! gotcha ;-)

>> No.25339650

>>25273128
her armpits smell nice

>> No.25339693

>>25339496
Devil's proof.

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>> No.25339729

God, looking back in retrospect, Umineko and Higurashi are pretty lame. I feel that to keep liking them I have to focus on how I felt in the moment while reading, because once you know what's actually going on--it's horribly uninteresting and kinda stupid. R07, my guy, please cease the bullshit writing techniques, they work in the moment but crumble in the end.

>> No.25339770

>>25339729
how does umineko fall apart

>> No.25339821

>>25339729
140p bait

>> No.25339874

>>25339729
I feel like it aged pretty well for me, even as I read other books and novels.

>> No.25339893

>>25304851
no, Satoko has a better chance with weapons, in a wrestling fight purely about strength and weight a pre-teen girl is getting wrecked by someone half a decade older

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>>25304851

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Did someone mention witches?

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mfw due to multiple personalities there are actually a quadrillion warcats

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>>25340448

>> No.25340530

Can't wait for the Dragon Gauntlet Knight

>> No.25340573
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what did she mean by that

>> No.25340672

>>25340573
corona bts social credit

>> No.25340974

>>25288170
Something interesting to note is that in Ciconia, the world is "already dead" when you consider that its functions were destroyed by WW3 nukes. But in Haworthia, the world don't appear to be dead if you consider the information given. What happens in Haworthia is that because of technology advancement, humanity lost their adaptability with the normal weather/natural conditions of the world. Organics Automata merely converts the world to its original form (apparently by destroying the Reconcilsphere, something that appears to be very important to maintain this world "made by humanity".)
Actually, I think the Reconcilsphere is more akin to 8MS than Organics Automata. More likely the Organics Automata represents Mario's machine in Ciconia. All that is just my interpretation though, I might be wrong.

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Anon with TRT problems here for a final message, after 15 minutes of manually replacing files I got the game to work, take that fate, you can't stop my will to play retarded shit

>> No.25341315

>>25341233
post some impressions here if you feel like it. I've sort of given up on reading it cause my japanese has gotten too rusty, but I'd still be interested in reading about it.

>> No.25341369

>>25340974
Weren't the organics automata released into nature to purify the world but then went rogue by developing some kind of consciousness and opposing the purpose humanity gave them? I find that to be very much like the 8MS.

>> No.25341395

>>25341369
Kinda sounds like the gauntlet knights to me

>> No.25341445

>>25341369
I think they're created to restore the beauty of nature, only to them to bring back the whole thing due to the vague instructions that the creators gave them.

>> No.25341516

wisdom are 4chan post link numbers

>> No.25341730

>>25341369
yeah, in haworthia the 8ms cluster into multicellular organisms, take on human shapes to fulfill their purpose of restoring beauty to the planet, and then sing about the coming Utopia and murder/displace all the humans to turn it into paradise.
quoting a yt comment:
>The most Ironic part of this, if you read the haworthia booklet, is that the Organic Automata succeeds in restoring the planet and it's biosphere; the problem is that the humanity grew too used to the artificial life support ecosystem that they could not longer adapt to any of habitable planets they came across (forcing them to live in space colonies instead), which make this whole ordeal ultimately tragic for the humans.
so, humans tried to create an artificial utopia for themselves, and in the process they've become incapable of living in reality.

>> No.25342341

>>25338491
>>25338618
The vn is the original product. The manga just started being published before as a marketing move, while Ryukishi finished writing/polishing night 1. Happens a lot actually, same thing with the evangelion manga/anime.

>> No.25342401

>>25341730
Isn't that just Gundam and New Types

>> No.25342796

ange?

>> No.25343474

>>25342796
cat

>> No.25343836

>>25342401
Newtypes are people whose not only adapted to both earth and space, but also spiritually enhance to the point that they can preform super natural feats with the right tools.

Though, I think Gauntlet Knights are more to Coordinators of SEED.

And Yes, as the writer of that Comment, that's where I drew the inspiration of space colonies from.

>> No.25343875

>>25343836
Now that I think about it, Organic Automata were DG Cells.

>> No.25344094

>>25337943
Here's the way I've always thought of it: magic is both 100% real and 100% fake. It's like a quantum superposition (ok, it's nothing like a quantum superposition, but hear me out)

It all depends on your perspective. From the perspective of Umineko Prime, i.e. the physical world Ange lives in, all magic is just fiction, and Bern etc. are just metaphors. But from the perspective of the Sea of Fragments, where Bern lives, it's Umineko Prime that is just one possibility among many, basically a fiction.

The thing is, from our perspective as readers, these are both equally fictional, so there doesn't have to be any "objective truth" as to which one of these perspectives is correct. Effectively, they both are, simultaneously.
They're two equally objective realities that are fictional relative to each other.

>> No.25346355

>>25337084
Flat loli arse.

>> No.25346455

>>25343836
SNEED

>> No.25346482

>>25338395
The manga is the original, but it sucks a gallon of dicks and Ryu decides to finally make it a VN himself and expand on it. Seriously, the manga is godawful.

>> No.25346549

If you think about it, those brain OS they use in Ciconia are rather enviable. I mean, the Gaunlets are amazing and shit, but that OS is just fucking awesome. Just imagine carrying out your daily duties, whilst playing games in your head and being in VR chatrooms at the same time.

>> No.25346563

>>25339893
>half a decade older
Lewd! Shion has such a hot body, and yet she had a pathetic bald cunny just 5 years earlier! I bet she still feels awkward about her new body!

>> No.25346606

>>25340573
>GOLDEN dragon society
>Lingji is a chink and a commie with corona who eats dogs for breakfast
I bet the gauntlet is a chinese knockoff and doesn't do anything special.

>> No.25349346

>>25340573
go-gorudo kurossu ???!!!

>> No.25350164

>>25346606
literally just what happened, which is why miyao broke her shield by farting

>> No.25350363

>>25346549
it's elon musk's brain chip

>> No.25350397

>>25346549
the future globalists want us to shatter our psyches so we can all have DID and play in VR all day

>> No.25350423

>>25350397
don't a lot of people already do that but without the convenience having an OS being in your head

>> No.25350507

>>25350423
I'm not religious, but brain implants are my personal top contender for mark of the beast.
>influence peoples moods
>direct their attention
>change their perceptions
>disrupt trains of thoughts
>overwrite their memories
>>"don't worry about it bro, it's not manipulation it's a u g m e n t a t i o n"

>> No.25350537

>>25350507
its going to happen anon

>> No.25350567

>>25350537
I'm aware, musk is making some pretty disturbing progress. the current prototype already does both read and write.

>> No.25350622

>>25350537
We still don't understand the brain perfectly. It will be really hard to manipulate specific thought directly in this organise mismash of neuron.

>> No.25350660

Woke up to what I understand as someone mistakenly tagging me, trying to fix it and ending up being interpreted as being me which I find incredibly amusing and fully endorse, although it would be even more amusing and reminiscent of shkanontrice if I were the person who were discussing with me the whole time (which I also fully endorse).

>>25350507
I don't know if a single chip would be capable of doing that much. Wouldn't it only stimulate the part of the brain where it's planted? Anyway, I wouldn't mess with my brain either. We don't fully understand how it works and chances are some people are gonna get screwed until it finally works as intended.

>> No.25350758

>>25350507
>>25350537
>>25350567
>>25350622
>>25350660
monthly fee to unlock the ability to smell

>> No.25350876

>>25350660
Yes, for now it only interacts with a specific area of the brain.
>people are gonna get screwed until it finally works as intended.
The more powerful this technology gets the more influence it exerts, and at some point you would cease to be subject entirely - you would still feel in control all the same, but in reality you'd be directly controlled by stimuli. all of your impulses, sudden insights, desires, moods would be artificially constructed.
Let's say no one is using that immense power to influence you to some ulterior end, that you get to decide how the implants re-program you. That's a kind of self-control, right? Except once you make the choice you're no longer the same person who made the choice, and you have no point of reference for comparing the two from the outside. If you felt comfortable with the changes, but your un-augmented version would not, would you choose to side with your past self, or would its concerns just seem alien and unimportant to you? All it might take for you to become a mindslave to your own ill-informed wishes is one big bad decision or a million small ones.

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>>25350876
We're kind of slaves to ill-informed impulses already, are we not? Think about depressed people who need hormonal agents, antipsychotics and other psychotropics to be productive. Several parts of their reasoning are under the direct influence of such medication. Is it 'natural'? Would that person make the same decisions with and without their medication? I'd wager not, which is why they chose to take it in the first place.
But even then, most reasoning is a byproduct of context and hardly natural. A starving person might be capable of murder where they otherwise wouldn't.

If you look at the chip without the sinister brainwashing aspect to it, it would just be a more effective way of being in control of your own senses, which we already try to do through several means, none of which are natural, some of which are very hurtful and to varying degrees of success.

>> No.25352037

>>25351111
Not being hungry or depressed just allows you to make use of the decision-making capacity your brain already has, it doesn't create entirely new directives out of thin air.
The issue with augmentation isn't that it's "not natural" to re-write yourself, like you said, natural is a useless category when talking about humans, the issue is that giving yourself full admin privileges for your brain is a horrible fucking idea. A lot of the things that make you a functional human being aren't verbalized and you might not even be aware that you do them, so you have no idea what you might break by re-writing your source code.
In trying to change something about how you live your life, you discover all the things you were already doing right that your new goal has to be balanced against, and for most situations I don't think there are shortcuts that allow you to skip over that process.

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>>25293656
sorry for the late post but mods ban me every 3 post

>regreit taling to you
stop crying like a faggot and argue
did you read umineko?
after crying Battler surrend and go away?
Nope so move your ass

>> No.25353678

>>25333691
>SJWs have a skewed, black-and-white view of reality
You can say that about any kind of group that has enough people, it applies to individuals as well but on a smaller scale. It's just how things work normally as the result of normal human behaviors.

>> No.25353700

>>25338156
>Jayrikantrice
finnally a theory that show that Battler and Miyao are not gay because Kanon and Jayden are cute tomboys

>> No.25354195

Sakutaroutrice

>> No.25354337

>>25353678
true, the bigger issue is americans really

>> No.25354359

>>25293656
If you haven't noticed by now he is genuinely mentally ill. "She" is also trans so that's not surprising.

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>>25354359
you are a mental ill

question?

WHY EVERYONE HERE USE REDDIT WORDS?
GO TO REDDIT IF YOU ARE A FUCKING NORMIE

DISGUTING

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>>25354359
I don't quite get it, the erikantrice person is trans? Did they even say that at some point?

>> No.25354721

>>25354474
welcome to the clown world where nothing makes sense and everyone is a tranny

>> No.25354773

>>25354721
*where nothing makes sense and everyone jp disagrees with is a tranny

>> No.25354794

>>25354474
it's called "bait"

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Did Tonokawa or whoever wrote this TRT chapter even know what the words he put in this game's title mean?

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>>25336011
>>25333003

Meow (El coño traidor)

Naima papas autisticas

>> No.25354968

>>25354474
It was four threads back : >>/jp/thread/S24821272#p24905167

>> No.25355013

>>25354968
Isn't that the guy who was arguing against erikatrice

>> No.25355016

>>25354865
There is a difference between fury (violence) and furry (from furr).

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>>25338203
I liked the 13th step chapter more than the rest, closely followed with the mirror one. Drunk sakunoshin and "Maria" were fun

>> No.25355088

>>25354968
Err, my bad...

>> No.25355095

>>25355013
Erikantrice haters are mindless retards, don't take what they say seriously.

>> No.25355097

>>25355016
I know, I just meant that title feels like just a bunch of word mashed together that aren't related at all

>> No.25355099

>>25354968
Holy shit lmao

>> No.25355111

>>25355088
Meant for >>25355013

>> No.25355264

>>25355044
Why is this Dumb Twat™ the only Higanloli that gets any fanart?

>> No.25355372

>>25355264
because she embodies the coomer spirit

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>>25354721
>>25354359
>>25355095
I've seen, rather unique people in some generals throughout the years, but this erikantrice shebang is in a whole another level. Everything he says has such an undeniable expressionist, artistic vision to it. I can't understand, but I do feel. Everything he touches makes even less sense, to the grandeur of the whole. It's like confronting the absurd of existence itself, a deconstruction of the concept of reason. I'll take the erikantrice wisdom as a grim reminder of all the knowledge bestowed onto me during my brief time here.

>>25352037
I think we agree on most of the basis, or at least on what is practical to it. It's dangerous, unpredictable and overall not a very good idea. If we keep dragging it further, we'll end up going into philosophy at its worst: pure speculative fiction. Although I'd like to clarify that if we consider an hypothetical implant with no potentially hurtful aspects to it, it would likely include in the premise that it was tested to the point of no longer causing such a disastrous chain effect.

Anyway, don't chip your brains, kids. Unless you're into that sort of thing. C ya.

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What did he mean by this

>> No.25355717

>>25355640
when does this happen

>> No.25355780

>>25355717
Chapter 19 moments before the bomb goes off

>> No.25355815

>>25355640
What are you thinking with this? That she was involved in the bombing?

>> No.25355837

>>25355640
Do you mean the socks or the effect?
>>25355815
>she
Meow wears a choker.

>> No.25355869

>>25355815
>>25355837
It's just really fucking weird that Toujirou decided to look at her legs

>> No.25355895

>>25355869
As in her legs specifically? He knew the bomb was about to go off and just rushed behind her and came up with a BS excuse of why he did before the bomb went off.

>> No.25355908

>>25355640
>>25355815
i'll check it out by myself later, but wasn't it meant to show tojiro's camera flicking due to the explosion? anyway the lato girls sure are very suspicious, they are present in a good chunk of disasters

>> No.25355931

>>25355908
Yea that's what I'm thinking too. I'm betting one of them is a traitor at least

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>>25355640
There's this one too

>> No.25356013
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>>25355044
God, Midori is so fucking cute. Her hair is perfect, she has a lewd face and she even has a whole mind rape thing going on. Godspeed Ryukishi, you win again.

>> No.25356019

>>25355640
Toujirou was supposedly behind her, but don't her legs bend like she's facing towards him?

>> No.25356038

If the key to Umineko was figuring out that even scenes without witches can be fake, maybe in Ciconia there are scenes that happen in VR even though we're not explicitly told they are?

>> No.25356153

>>25356019
plus, you know, her hand ya dingus

>> No.25356193

>>25356038
i think most people coming from umineko and higurashi already assume that the vr is the equivalent to hallucinations / magic

>>25355908
>>25355931
>gauntlet knights are supposedly all young people
>seshat says that she envies the young, but she's a gauntlet knight herself
>valentina and maricarmen are treated like big sisters by the other gauntlet knights, meaning they are older than them but still very young, likely young adults
>in the airport incident where seshat uses her gauntlet, the only two gauntlet knights present were maricarmen and valentina
>seshat is connected to tojiro
>valentina spends an awful lot of time scouting tojiro around and seems to always be present when shit hits the fan
>seshat is apparently so powerful and does so much crazy shit that it's too much even for regular gauntlet knights
>the lato gauntlets are said to be more powerful than your average gauntlet, free of the restrictions other factions have

food for thought

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>>25356153
It's a hand drawn by Ryukishi. You can't even see how many fingers it has.

>> No.25356417

>>25356267
hmm, ok good point

>> No.25356706
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Can someone give me a rundown on why Higu has different soundtracks depending on which version you play? For example, I heard this track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4hvKYS9Cq4&list=LLcbHK6bNQM2ajUgBcokTOlw&index=72&t=0s
at the end of Minagoroshi when Ooishi got shot, but when I went to rewatch the scene from some random youtube video it had a different song. https://youtu.be/I-RXyRsGKcg
Why did they do this?

>> No.25356945

>>25356019
I wouldn't put too much stock into that just because of how mirrored sprites are a huge visual inconsistency with all of Ryukishi's games, just even moreso with Ciconia

>> No.25357566

>>25356706
Because Mangagamer are weird and kept fucking with the soundtrack

>> No.25358055

>>25356013
I love her sprite because her face has the classic Gunbuster look. She looks like Noriko.

I bet a Higanbana console port would ruin it all by giving her a shiny modern anime look with a barely visible blush and no squiggly cheek lines.

>> No.25358075

>>25355372
She's like 11. She probably cooms often, but not nearly as much as a proper coomer.

>> No.25358119

>>25356013
I like how the black tea gentleman drinks her soul by having it slowly evaporate from her body in the form of drifting loli sweat. I wonder how that tea actually tastes.

>> No.25358151

>>25355895
What if based Tomitagge didn't know shit about the bomb and the story is trying to make him suspicious as fuck?

>> No.25358240

>>25358151
I would understand this reasoning if he didn't literally hack into his son's weapon with the intent of murdering a little girl
if that's a red herring, it has reached a level of redness that there is no color hex capable of describing

>> No.25358366

>>25356706
>>25356945

some people read higurashi without digital network?

>> No.25358378

>>25354968
What is the problem?

>> No.25358450

>>25358366
What?

>> No.25358476

Ange (schizo with several genders)
Male Hanyuu with Alan's goofiness
Nina-Mion hybrid (assless)

Guglielmo doujin protagonist
Asuka with autism
Wanyadora addict

Chink with a hairy pussy
Japanese weeaboo
Chaotic Neutral Takano

Indian Natsuhi
Etika expy
Cute arab schizo

Preteen Potato
Confirmed traitor
Ange (dead inside)

Cornelia strikes back
Cutie pie but actually a psycho
Honeypot nun

Beato Kong
Young Genji (black)
RGD mafia goon #3

Egyptian hottie
The obvious Bern piece
Pedo Shannon

Cagando Rika
Brazilian Beatrice

>> No.25358520

>>25358450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X27-AquLW_8

>> No.25358532

>>25358240
He just happened to chuckle for no reason at that moment because he remembered the humiliation of Gunhild's sister. The chink's gauntlet just failed to shield her because it was made in China.

>> No.25358551

>>25358240
>murdering a little girl
I think her crotch is a bit too hairy to consider her a little girl. She's like 18 at most, probably less.

>> No.25358563

>>25358366
Yes. And without silver mirror too. A fucking tragedy.

>> No.25358570

>>25358520
Oh, that.
Doesn't sound bad, but I prefer the updated soundtrack.

>> No.25358608

>>25358476
>honeypot nun
You just made me remember that shit. She's worse than Gabriel, baiting people online to get them arrested. Fucking nigger.

>> No.25358639

>>25358476
If Gunhild's got no arse, how does she poop?

>> No.25358677

>>25358075
She's under a lot of stress, and spends all day coping by drooling over the idea of being adored to forget her worries. I'd be surprised if she doesn't masturbate every chance she gets.

>> No.25358821

>>25358677
Most little girls have no idea they are supposed to cum at the end. They just stop halfway through. Not so much these days with tons of porn in the palm of their hands, but Midori probably lives in a different time with no modern phones or access to such knowledge.

>> No.25358925

>>25358821
I dunno, I feel like the fact she's so isolated from anyone that could be close to her plus her constant need to make shitty situations seem fine would lead her to accidentaly learning about cumming, like for example on a VERY shitty day where just pretending things are cool isn't enough to stabilize her mind.

>> No.25358926

>>25358821
the measure of a coomer isn't the number of orgasms, it's how much their addiction to pleasure interferes with their life

>> No.25358966

>>25358821
When does Higanbana even take place? Hell, how much time actually passes between chapters? The world of ghosts is stagnant as fuck, isn't it?

>> No.25359025

>>25358821
>tfw my 6th grade loli cousin probably watches Sasha Grey drinking enema from some other slut's ass whenever she's a bit horny and home alone
Yikes. I'm no puritan, but it's kinda sad how children are losing their innocence so early. Still lewd, though. But damn.

>> No.25359028

>>25358966
it's a reflection of the ghost stories that circulate around the school though, and I'd think the collective imagination of the kids is constantly in flux.

>> No.25359082

>>25359028
So is Marie fucked? She'll disappear eventually and there is no heaven waiting for a soul that has turned into some weird shit like that.

>> No.25359295

>>25359025
Nah, teenage girls are still mainly into BL and scenarios where the "average" female lead gets into an abusive relationship with some brutal and/or controlling sociopath (after he has proven himself to her, of course), and preservers until he magically turns into a caring protector-type after she captures his heart, just like they were 10 years ago. There's definitely big shifts happening in other areas of the symbolic romantic landscape, but I can't put my finger on how and why exactly.
>>25359082
She'll just have to keep perpetuating the legend to survive.

>> No.25359323
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ryu and his loli

>> No.25359382

>>25359323
Why does he kinda look like Meijiu in some pictures?

>> No.25359472

So what are Ryukishi's fetishes?

>The entirety of Umineko
femdom
>Watanagashi
humiliation
>Keiichi
crossdressing
>Umineko episode 2 and Flauros
vore
>Kanon and Miyao
angsty androgynous boys wearing cravats

>> No.25359971

>>25359472
we know he loves bondage and lolis by looking at his other art

>> No.25359976

>>25359472
>the entirety of Higanbana
Loli humiliation and vore.

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25360098

What art do you think r07 draws for himself and doesnt post anywhere?

>> No.25360191

>>25360098
is tsukihime any good?

>> No.25360194

>>25360098
how can that loli be so smug

>> No.25360300

>>25360191
yes, and it comes with the perk of not being bastardized and merchandiced to hell like the Fate side of nasuverse
it's a comfy read and pretty atmospheric, it takes it slow

>> No.25360350

>>25359025
twelve year old girls get into BTS rapefic, not Sasha Grey enema drinking

>> No.25360466

>>25360191
Worse than fate. But Arc is cute

>> No.25360926

I hope the villain of Ciconia is brazilian

>> No.25360987

>>25360926
Bolsonaro's decapitated head is the King Of Ridicule

>> No.25361116

>>25358551
If she's a chink, doesn't that leave a 1% chance of her shaving her pussy? It's not like she's a jap.

>> No.25361135

When does the higu gacha game open?

>> No.25361316

>>25361116
I've fucked a lot of Chinks and only one of them shaved her pussy, and she was an ubercoomer. They naturally have little body hair so it's just not in their culture to shave it; they don't need to.

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>>25361135
this summer, so between right now and september

>> No.25361794

>>25285076
>>25285171
>>25359025
I bet your hecka cute lolee couseen has no idea that her masturbation is a well known FACT that everybody can figure out just by learning that she's 11 and a human. Pathetic! She doesn't know!

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>>25358570
>Doesn't sound bad, but I prefer the updated soundtrack

>> No.25361957

is liking the Umineko OST more than the VN itself normal? I truly think that if not for the BGM I wouldn't care for it half as much as I do

>> No.25361965

>>25358570
It just doesn't sound like Higurashi. Silver mirror and digital network are iconic as fuck.

I like many other songs way more than Dread of the Grave, but I still would hate it if an update removed it from early Umineko and replaced it with some other shit, even if I personally liked the new one better. It'd still be unfitting and take away an iconic track.

>> No.25362017

>>25361957
I love the Umineko OST, but I have no idea what people are talking about when the list the songs by name. I don't remember the difference between any of the Dai songs, they just sound the same to me. Still love them, though.

Umineko's OST is so damn huge, it becomes difficult to remember and appreciate each piece individually. I'm a lot more familiar with the Higanbana soundtrack because I know all of it by heart and can play the whole thing in my head. It's smaller and more compact.

>> No.25362179

>>25361957
no fucking GOAT

>> No.25362490

>>25361957
i'm the same. but it's all part of the whole package. the writing and sound just creates a great atmosphere.
even the filtered photo BGs helps add to it imo.

>> No.25363055

>>25360098
Where do I find a gallery of his art? I doubt he has like a Pixiv or something

>> No.25363072

>>25363055
his art is on exhentai

>> No.25363401

>>25361957
I stopped caring about Umineko as soon as I finished reading EP8. I never bothered with any of the extra stuff.
However, I still listen to the OSTs.

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Huh

>> No.25363562

>>25363055
https://exhentai.org/g/755850/8226fda365/

It's also on the in the art books folder of the mega.

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>>25268283

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>>25364414
Oh I have one with Satoko, is there a version with Hanyuu?

>> No.25364546

Any news on when Ciconia phase 2 comes out?

>> No.25364566

>>25364546
no, stop asking

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>>25364483

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>>25364483
Here she is

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>>25364483

>> No.25364821

>>25364649
>>25364746
Both are great, thx!

>> No.25365304

Is there any good analysis of Umineko anywhere?

>> No.25365453

>>25365304
analysis of what?

>> No.25365599

>>25365453
The sea gull preferably.

>> No.25365908

>>25365304
Like, an overall analysis? Not that I don't know. The best we have (that I know of at least) is the Goats Reading Seacats tumblr where they go over EP1-4 and say a lot of interesting stuff.

>> No.25365944

>>25360191
I mean if you like Fate you'll probably like Tsukihime too, no reason not to read it. I think both are bad but more than anything because Nasu's writing style is even worse than Ryukishi and I don't find his ideas/characters as good as to compensate.

>> No.25369066

>>25365304
Yes Erikantrice Manifesto read here
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS

>> No.25369547

>>25365304
Good is in the eye of the beholder.

I remember reading Keikakudoori's blog for Umineko and assorted anime analysis, though I guess Tea Party was the more focused site:

https://courtofillusions.wordpress.com/

>> No.25369656

>>25365908
>The best we have (that I know of at least) is the Goats Reading Seacats tumblr where they go over EP1-4 and say a lot of interesting stuff.
Those are great but I never saw the posts about episodes 3-4.

>> No.25369947

>>25361794
You are just jealous because you'll never have a loli cousin.

>> No.25369961

>>25365304
Narnith's episode reviews. Oh wait...

>> No.25372055

>>25369961
What happened with Narnith and his videos?

>> No.25372110

>>25372055
On the ninth twilight the witch shall revive
and none shall be left alive

>> No.25372231

>>25372110
What? Is he dead?

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>>25372231
That little bitch nuke his channel.
>I've decided to remove all public facing content from my channel. Please know this was not made in a depressive or otherwise dangerous state of mind - I'm better than I have ever been. The years in which I made content for this channel were by far the worst years of my life. I was extraordinarily mentally ill, coping extremely poorly, and a generally unpleasant person. It is deeply shameful to me that so much content produced during this time was public available.
>I know many if not most of you will be upset by this, but ultimately I think this is required for me to move on. I'll still exist in the 07th community under a new name and maybe you'll have already talked with me by now. Thank you so much to everyone who interacted with me - it really meant more than you know.
I don't like shit talking about person, whom I spend pleasant time in the past, but he made a really dickish move. Instead of announce his decision to quit and give everyone chance to save his legacy, that bastard just spit in the face of people who loved him: "You have fond memories about my reading? What a shame, you can't rewatch it anymore! :) Btw I still in your fandom, love u! <3"
I apologize for the rant but even weeks after my butthurt still burns like a thousand suns. You can get chunks of his videos here https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ/folder/5DoUDKaZ

>> No.25377833

>>25365304
What this guy says. >>25369066
Also, why do you need an analysis? Just ask on /jp/ if you have any questions.

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How the fuck did R07 get away with this

>> No.25378264

>>25377833
Eh, I do think it would be nice to have more high-tier extensive critiques/analyses of 07th expansion works, not so much for people who have already been participating in discussion for years, but for the kind of reader that reads through something like higurashi once in their life over the course of two weeks and then moves on. For that type of reader, a good framing can elevate their understanding and focus their thoughts, while a bad one can explain away the deeper questions a story poses.

>> No.25378491

>>25378264
R07 works aren't nearly as popular like TM stuff is. You can find multiple essays about F/SN, but you're not going to see that much for an R07 work because the fanbase is much smaller.

>> No.25378593

>>25378491
I'm aware, but Ryukishi's writing has more going on character-wise, thematically and in terms of employing weird literary techniques, so at least they'd be interesting essays.

>> No.25378671

>>25378593
>Ryukishi's writing has more going on character-wise, thematically and in terms of employing weird literary techniques
Oh trust me, we all know that here. I enjoy TM VNs but R07s are just much better in my opinion. But until one of his VNs gets a massive hit anime like UBW or Fate/Zero was again I don't think we'll see what you're talking about. Higurashi was popular, but it also was a butchered adaption along with the Umineko one. Personally while I'd love to see a fantastic adaption of both, I know the kind of shitters it brings in and would rather not have them.

>> No.25378753

>>25378491
>>25378671
That's bullshit. Besides, the first fate adaption was even more butchered than any 7th anime, including Umineko.

>> No.25378797

>>25378753
Fate has had multiple adaptions since 2006 though. And F/SN I suppose is just more appealing to people since it's a crap ton of chuuni battles.

>> No.25378831

>>25378797
>And F/SN I suppose is just more appealing to people since it's a crap ton of chuuni battles
That'd be Umineko 2-6 for you.

>> No.25378853

>>25378753
not for the purposes of attracting an anime fanbase, since it has pure, faithful, noble, innocent-yet-lewd knight-girl and intelligent tsundere girl fighting for their lives in a scenario that allows weak beta male self-insert MC to climb the powerladder, gain their trust and respect and become stronk protector-man. it's peak waifu bait.

>> No.25379012

>>25378831
you're retarded if you think WTC has as much normie appeal as something like fate

>>25378853
this guy knows what he's talking about

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>>25379012
>7th expansion circlejerk on a 7th expansion general
What a surprise. Of course, fate is just fan service while Higurashi's loli punishment games are a deep, philosophical take on existentialism.

>> No.25379201

>>25379160
nobody mentioned fan service or whatever the fuck you're talking about, it's fine I get it, you like fate now shut the fuck up

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>>25379201
>pure, faithful, noble, innocent-yet-lewd knight-girl
>normie appeal as something like fate
>it's peak waifu bait
Yeah, nobody mentioned fan service. Good reading comprehension.

>> No.25379381

>>25379357
you don't know what fan service means and im pretty sure you're mentally ill, here's your last (you)

>> No.25379507

>>25379160
Loli fanservice is not thought provoking, but only intellectuals can enjoy it without going full puritan and having a breakdown over it. So in a way it's less cheap than your average fanservice.

>> No.25379606

>>25379381
>I don't have any arguments, so I'll call you mentally ill and stand victorious
/jp/ 2020

>> No.25380047

>>25379160
they're just supposed to be fun, but the club activities do have layered, shifting character motivations and clever setups - unlike Shiro getting visits from his potential love interests, cooking with them, learning magic and sword fighting from them, scene after scene after scene.
>>25379357
you're misinterpreting my point.
fanservice is secondary when it comes to waifuge, the key is writing a scenario where the reader will see the female characters in a romantic light and have an easy time convincing himself that if he were in the main characters shoes he would certainly be desired by them.
one of the keys to waifuge is that the girls don't spend time with the protagonist just because they want to (many of the readers don't have female friends), but out of necessity. they have a shared goal, are fighting a common threat, are shackled to each other with magic or whatever. even the romance itself often follows that pattern. characters will be placed into embarrassing situations together, pushed into bodily contact with each other "accidentally" or "against their will", have sex to recharge mana and similar sad, ridiculous workarounds. waifu-fags can't picture themselves approaching a girl romantically on purpose (they might get rejected!), and they have no idea how they should respond if they were approached themselves, so this is the only way they can insert themselves into the story.

>> No.25380345

What's the point of perfect waifus? I love a character who feels human because that makes her more pathetic.

>> No.25380771

>>25380345
>being human is pathetic
What did you just say about my loli cousin!?

>> No.25380832

>>25380345
that's why waifus usually have symbolic imperfections (carefully chosen to not be portrayed as disgusting, dangerous or complicated) of some kind, like "she doesn't think anyone could see her as a girl", or "she's dependent on the MC", or "she hates herself".

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>>25380047
>What are punishment games?

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>>25380964
To be fair you have to have a very high Intelligence Quotient to understand Ryukishi's punishment games. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of quantum superposition most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Erika's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into her characterisation - her personal philosophy draws heavily from Ronald Knox literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike 07thExpansion truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rena's existencial catchphrase "I'm gonna take you home~," which itself is a cryptic reference to her constant repetition of her ideal that home is a heavenly place that should be protected, I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those 1-bit goats scratching their heads in confusion as Ryukishi's genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have an Umineko tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the wittches' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 34 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

>> No.25382039
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The biggest mystery of Umineko is if it would have been better with Virgilius in it.

>> No.25382167

>>25381398
Never have I read such true words on this website.
Post higu lolis to show approval.

>> No.25382471

>>25381398
very good post

>> No.25382766

>>25382167
Higu lolis've got arses! Arses! This thread is too pure for that!

>> No.25385967

>>25380964
Mion wouldn't be so cruel as to force Sadoggo to strip butt-arse-naked and cover her cuncun with a towel.

>> No.25385991

>>25380964
That swimsuit is practically skin tight. It would be pretty easy to make a nude version without the difficulty of trying to to replicate the weird anatomy, since it's already done for you. The pussy would be easy as fuck if you just take naked Satoko's slit and add a green bush.

>> No.25386261

>>25381398
>no reference to puppets

>> No.25386275

>>25385967
that's not mion

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>>25385991
Done.

>> No.25386825

>>25386429
She has hamhands for tits and 1% of her pubic hair

>> No.25386888

>>25386429
moar bush

>> No.25388277

when was the last time we had 700+ posts in these threads
I dont think we even reach this amount when Ciconia came out.

>> No.25388476

>>25365304
Read the manga, it's totally canon.

>> No.25388513

>>25388277
It's summer, quite normal. The thread got lot more posts for a few weeks.

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