[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/jp/ - Otaku Culture


View post   

File: 77 KB, 800x600, amane a cute.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22315923 No.22315923 [Reply] [Original]

Previous thread: >>22280199

This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

>> No.22316023

Looking forward to the new Crystalia VN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4NN_Xs4BUU

>> No.22316080

>>22315923
>What are you playing?
Cross concerto, hoping there isn't too many references to concerto note since its been 7 years since I read it and can't remember much.

>What are you looking forward to?
From the top of my head, I guess the new crystalia eroge, I liked the soundtrack in the 1st game.

>What have you finished?
Study steady, pretty sure I got carpet burn on my dick thanks to it.

>> No.22316173

>>22315923
>What are you looking forward to?
Shuffle2, Blazing Soul, Black Sheep Town, Musicus, Muramasa spin-off news.

>> No.22316248

>>22316173
Moogy-tier list. Especially the inclusion of Deep One 2.

>> No.22316290

>>22316248
>Moogy
Who? Pro dota 2 player?

>> No.22316292

>>22316290
Nah, a dude from Twitter who used to talk about eroge. Those are the games he's probably looking for.

>> No.22316296

>>22316023
>Crystalia
Bunch of katana-sexuals.

>> No.22316356

>>22315923
>What are you playing?
I've been playing Akeiro Kaikitan for like 9 months, I swear it feels never ending and sometimes a few lines of it are all I feel like reading a day. I'm determined to finish it though because it's been dragged out so long and I want to see what the "true route" is like.

>> No.22316580

>>22315923
Oh man, I wanna kiss a little girl so bad.

>> No.22316747
File: 303 KB, 638x482, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22316747

I am pleased to confirm White Album works on Win 7, with inmm.dll for music. Well, except the installer. Install on XP copy to 7.

>> No.22316793

>>22316747
Is original better than remake?

>> No.22316798

>>22316793
Dunno. I'm on the start menu.

>> No.22316835

レイルロアの略奪者 on, no crack though. Taken from chinkalings.

Also クロスコンチェルト, but this one doesn't have the crowdfunding.xp3.

>> No.22316842

>>22315923
>What are you playing
Leyline 2, Riddle Joker

>> No.22316859

>>22316747
You may see better compatibility on 10, I've had that happen. Also if the installer doesn't work usually it just needs to be explicitly run as administrator. Not sure what the hell they could do that would break the installer otherwise.

>> No.22316862

>>22316859
No, Redditor, the installer doesn't work cause it's a 16bit application.

>> No.22316870

>>22316862
Then use Win 7 x86, it still supports 16 bit applications. You would have the same issue with XP 64 bit, it's just much rarer. And 10 has NTVDM for 16 bit apps. So no, this isn't an XP vs 7 compatability problem at all.

>> No.22316874

>>22316870
No. I only use Win 7 64.

>> No.22316887

>>22316874
That's fine, but presenting this as a compatibility issue between XP and 7 when it's really an issue of an x86 OS vs the 64 bit OS you chose to use is misleading and retarded.

>> No.22316893

>14gbs for the latest 3rdeye game
I hope it looks amazing to justify that.

>> No.22316971

>>22316292
>used to
Why isn't he talking about them anymore? Did he kill himself or something?

>> No.22317015

>>22316292
No to the first two, since neither are yuri or old favorites of his. The last three aren't particularly moogy-core since Setoguchi and Muramasa are hardly 個性的 favorites. In conclusion, you're being obnoxious.

>> No.22317023

>>22317015
I am aware he's following Kastel and becoming a yuri-obsessed, misshapen trans monstrosity.

>>22316971
He now talks about yuri and being trans.

>> No.22317029

>>22316887
what the hell are you talking about? anyone with a brain who uses win7 only uses the 64bit version. same goes for xp, no one in their right mind would use xp 64 so his complaint is perfectly reasonable. and not that it matters but win10 breaks more things than it fixes so you're better off just using a VM

>> No.22317030

>>22317029
He has autism, so he can't perceive actual circumstances experienced by living humans (i.e. as you say, people use Win 7 64 etc. etc.), but only abstract facts meaningful only to autists obsessed with them.

>> No.22317073

>>22317029
I find that it fixes more things than it breaks. But lots of people accuse Win 7 or 10 of breaking things, and it's better to be precise about what is broken. I've used Windows XP 64-bit pro many years ago, so 16-bit applications didn't work for me then either. It's better to be precise about exactly what is broken

>> No.22317085

>>22317073
>no one in their right mind would use xp 64
>I've used Windows XP 64-bit
i stand corrected. like that other anon mentioned, you need to curb your autism and stop being so pedantic

>> No.22317100

>>22317085
Being pedantic caused that anon to give more useful info, did it not? Googling in Japanese I only can find
> White aibumリニューアルパッケージのカーネルが16bitベースで作成されているため、Windows7 64bitでは起動できない XPモード+Windows Virtual PC+対応CPU+メモリー+ゲームソフト対応ドライバ 
From this info alone I would assume that the カーネル being built on a 16bit program means the whole game requires 16 bit support. That anon is claiming that this info is wrong and that the installer alone is a 16-bit program. This would be an incredibly weird and nonsensical choice (since an installer should be easier to make up to date than an engine), but I wouldn't put it past the nips to do something so incredibly retarded.
I think my observation that it's unusual for an installer alone to not be compatible still generally holds true, as long as you know what you're doing.

>> No.22317111

>>22317100
It's just the installer. I know cause I have the game working on Win 7 64bit.

>> No.22317144

>>22317111
Oh yeah, I absolutely believe you, just saying it's crazy. If the engine runs fine then it's retarded that they released a renewal that still didn't have a 32 bit installer in 2003, but totally believable because Japan. Even though the Kizuato renewal from 2002 installed fine on 10 (just into virtual store if you don't run as admin).
Maybe they purposely hobbled it because they knew they could sell an ero-less console version and port it over.

>> No.22317166

>>22317100
>I think my observation that it's unusual for an installer alone to not be compatible still generally holds true
it really isn't that unusual, there are plenty of ancient games like that thanks to quality nip coding

https://vndb.org/v9347
https://mega.nz/#!zQBSSIrI!WXGFloHXEYJ8zrxBWG6YwYfLGK4DkkcPoF6fbTba7Yw

here's one i came across recently, have fun

>> No.22317178

>>22317015
>moogy
See below.
>>22317023
>Kastel
Whom?
>He
Whom?
>trans
>>>/lgbt/

>> No.22317757

What's a good vn to play that has the same atmosphere as walkure romanze?

>> No.22317784

>>22317757
the fandisks?

>> No.22317816

>>22317757
Unionism Quartet

>> No.22317827

>>22317816
Thanks anon. Seems like what I was looking for

>> No.22317893

>>22317827
No problem. The game and the fandisk for it are good. Unfortunately, Clipcraft appears to have have morphed into a body pillow company though.

>> No.22318115

Someone pls crack レイルロアの略奪者.

>> No.22318246
File: 122 KB, 1602x932, raillore.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22318246

>>22318115
?

>> No.22318285

how much is concerto note referenced in cross concerto? I can't really remember much about it since I read that shit like 6 years ago.

>> No.22318298

>>22318246
It doesn't need one? Or are you dabbing on me by having some chink crack from behind a point wall?

>> No.22318310

>>22318298
I just downloaded the dl version from the torrent, it's even updated to 1.01 since you can't use the patch because it doesn't install it.

>> No.22318312

>>22318310
Right, I guess DL version doesn't need one. Good to know.

>> No.22318319

>>22318312
It sometimes does, depending on the site.

>> No.22318326

>>22318319
Yes, I'm talking about this specific case, not in general. Should have been obvious from the context of our conversation.

>> No.22318331

>>22318326
Tone down the autism, please.

>> No.22318336

>>22318331
Says the one unable to follow conversational clues.

>> No.22318363

>>22318336
The conversational clues are evident, but getting mad at someone because a simple, somewhat related comment, is autism.
Then again, you didn't even bother to try and run a fucking game because you read it may need a crack, so, again, autism.

>> No.22318413 [SPOILER] 
File: 238 KB, 1920x1080, 1572108276038.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22318413

Why aren't you playing the best VN that has came out in the last decade?

>> No.22318416

>>22318363
I checked on Seiya Saiga, autismo.

>> No.22318472

>>22318413
what is it anon?

>> No.22318789
File: 405 KB, 723x407, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22318789

Anyone playing Ai Kiss?

>> No.22318940

>>22318472
Muramasa. My pic was unrelated.

>> No.22318941

>>22318413
Umineko. My pic was unrelated.

>> No.22319109

Where were you when Smee saved eroge?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI1jZN8_BhA

>> No.22319157
File: 275 KB, 1200x630, ogp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22319157

>>22316296
In the new game not all of them are "katana" sexuals

>> No.22319213

Anyone here miss hongfire? Why did they stop being relevant and a-s took over?

>> No.22319323

How is レイルロア and how does it compare to /jp/'s current VNOTY Sorceress Alive?

>> No.22319357

>>22319213
The debacle began when they took down the torrents, I have fond memories of HF back when it was a healthy community thriving with content. RIP HF.

>> No.22319385

>>22319323
Not started it but there's two posts about it being shit/boring in the real エロゲスレ.

>> No.22319735

>>22315923
Bros did the Portion company go out of bussines? I cant find any games from the after 2015 they made the ディバインハートSP series.

>> No.22321063

>>22319109
>generic haremshit
>saved
hmmmmmmm

>> No.22321185

>http://cyc-soft.com/b-cyc-pro/sadisticblood/index.html

Code red,MinDeaD BlooD sequel inbound, time for perverted vampires to come back.

>> No.22321226

>>22321063
Isekai harems are really not that common in visual novels

>> No.22321240

>>22321226
It being isekai isn't going to stop it from being a generic harem.

>> No.22321251

>>22321240
even generic harems are rare.

>> No.22321261

>>22321251
i dont think that word means what you think it means

>> No.22321268

>>22321240
Outside of nukige there aren't that many games where the MC fucks all the heroines at the same time, so I'd say real harems are pretty rare.

>> No.22321277

>>22321268
>outside of thousands of games there aren't that many games

>> No.22321323

>>22321261
Generic harems are rare in visual novels.
They are obviously not rare in general

>> No.22321340

>>22321277
Most nukige with "harems" just have one bonus harem scene. An actual dedicated harem route is very rare. Telling the entire story as a harem with no character routes is even rarer. I can really only think of Grisaia no rakuen , evenicle and nekopara.

>> No.22321371

>>22321340
>Most nukige with "harems" just have one bonus harem scene
What? There are constantly nukige coming out where the MC just fucks a bunch of women into submission and they become his harem. That's basically all studios like Miel do at this point. It's less common for a nukige with multiple girls to not have at least one ending if not the only ending be 'MC gets them all in his harem'.

>> No.22321414

>>22321371
>There are constantly nukige coming out where the MC just fucks a bunch of women into submission and they become his harem
Not ones with any sort of story or decent production values

>> No.22321421

>>22321414
That's a different point entirely.

>> No.22321499

>>22321421
There should be a distinction between shovelware nukige where the protagonist has sexual relationships with a lot of girls simultaneously, and actual harems that depict the protagonist building up a relationship and romancing multiple women simultaneously culminating in some form of polygynous relationship between him and them.
I feel the latter is very much underrepresented in eroge

>> No.22321543

>>22321499
It's not underrepresented at all if you consider sexual training to be romancing, the protagonist still ends up in a polygamous relationship with a bunch of women. Lots of those aren't shovelware too.

I get you want a specific type of harem that isn't MC fucking some girls into submission but harems in general are pretty common. And that's not even going into all the games that have routes, but then release a fandisc where all the routes happened and the MC has his own harem for pure fanservice purposes, which fits what you are saying but I imagine is not what you want.

>> No.22321581

>>22321543
>It's not underrepresented at all if you consider sexual training to be romancing
Ok but I don't, and I'm pretty sure most other people don't either
I would argue that games where the mc just fucks all the girls without going into the relationships isn't a true harem because the romance is very much integral to the genre. And any VN that actually goes into relationships and romance will 99/100 times (if not more) not have a harem route.

>> No.22321777

>>22321581
>>if you consider sexual training to be romancing
>Ok but I don't
Can't say for all Venus Blood games, but Lagoon had pretty sizable chunk of actual romance in addition, or even instead of sexual training.

>> No.22322138

>>22321414
If you want to have a story and harem at the same time, you are doing it wrong. Harem is by default incompatible with any halfway decent storytelling. It's fucking harem. The best you can do with that is do it like To Love Ru, and keep it lighthearted and lewd. Not without reason one of the biggest in its genre, inspiring a ton of other works. Or have every girl fly at the protag, but still have dedicated routes.
Trying to do more usually just becomes dumb or ignores the harem thing during it. Or both, like Evenicle, which becomes dumb and doesn't really care about the harem stuff during its later story events and it's mostly a separate thing whenever you return home or go to an inn.

>> No.22322179

>>22322138
The best time I had with both Evenicle 1 and 2 was when I had just two wives, either Ramius+Riche or Yuragi+Kano, the harem part went downhill from there. Small harems > big harems.

>> No.22322210

>>22322179
I agree. Being forced to marry girls and then just leaving them at home for the rest of the game was annoying, especially when said girls are active characters before this.

>> No.22322240

>>22322210
Yeah, if the harem was limited to just four party members, but each of them had way more individual focus, both games would've been better.

>> No.22322594

Is there a point in playing eroge anymore?

>> No.22322615

>>22322594
at the very least not for you it seems. no need to force yourself, there are other mediums out there with objectively better works of literature, unless you want cute anime girls that are thirsty for your dick.

>> No.22322734

What does /jp/ prefer.
Flat chests or large chests.
I prefer the former.

>> No.22322751
File: 235 KB, 1280x720, イブニクル2_20190226_080451.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22322751

>>22322734
This is the only non-gay answer.

>> No.22322795
File: 206 KB, 1280x720, magic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22322795

>>22322734
smaller is better, you just have to use certain magic if you wanna try bigger for best of both worlds

>> No.22322800

>>22322751
What an indecisive faggot

>> No.22322801

>>22322734
Big, nothing like burying yourself in tits.

>> No.22322809

>>22322800
>indecisive faggot
*a man of taste

>> No.22322894
File: 313 KB, 1280x720, gensou_idea_06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22322894

>>22322734

>> No.22323739

>>22322138
>Harem is by default incompatible with any halfway decent storytelling. It's fucking harem
Total bullshit, if this was true there wouldn't be hundreds of popular harem Light novels and manga. Think of Highschool DxD where the author does nothing but blueball the audience in terms of the fanservice, but people still stuck with it and it became immensely popular because of its storyline.

>> No.22323748
File: 654 KB, 879x854, conjueror.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22323748

Do you guys think the trigger for Conj killing himself was a reread of Subahibi?

>> No.22323756

>>22323739
>if this was true there wouldn't be hundreds of popular harem Light novels and manga
That's not contradicting the statement, appealing to the lowest common denominator is pretty much admitting the storytelling is nowhere close to decent.

>> No.22323782

>>22323739
I don't know, because it was so shit I lost any interest in that fast. Also I'm pretty sure it shows all the lewds it can all the fucking time.
That said, I'm not perfect or know every single work out there, so who knows. Maybe there's something that manages to combine harem and storytelling well. I still believe those works that feature both and aren't shit however either have periods where they focus on one OR the other, or they simply aren't that serious in the first place.

>> No.22323818

>>22323756
There's a difference between storytelling that you consider bad and a total lack of storytelling, which was the original point.
That's like saying you can't tell a story in a superhero movie because marvel movies are all garbage.

>> No.22323972

>>22323782
>or they simply aren't that serious in the first place
Nobody brought up the "seriousness" of the work until now.

>> No.22324009

>>22323748
>Might make you want to kill yourself
That's what somebody who didn't understand the final message of Subahibi would say.

>> No.22324057

>>22324009
So a pretentious brainlet? Sounds about right.

>> No.22324087

>>22323748
>Conj
Whom?
>killing himself
May he rest in peace, but why do we care?

>> No.22324172

>>22323748
Wait. Really? Fuck. Haven't been in these threads for a while, but I think I'm going to cry a little when I return home. (。•́︿•̀。)

>> No.22324184

>>22324172
>but I think I'm going to cry a little
Why? It's one less honorary EOP spreading his retarded EOP opinions.

>> No.22324368

>>22324184
I still want to cry. I don't know why. I'm glad that he's not here to spread his vile EOP poison anymore, but I still feel sad. Did anyone else here cry when they found out the news?

>> No.22324455

>>22324368
no i laughed and im still laughin

>> No.22324483

>>22321185
muh metawo + banya combo is finally here

>> No.22324651

>>22324455
edgy

>> No.22324762

>>22323782
>Maybe there's something that manages to combine harem and storytelling well
Have you tried Mushoku Tensei? It was pretty huge on narou a few years ago and got an anime adaption recently.

>> No.22324847

does yu-no only get good when the fantasy stuff starts or something

>> No.22324871

>>22324847
It's a lot better as mystery/scifi stuff. It has Mio and Kanna too.
The actual fantasy part is kinda rushed.

>> No.22325172

Started Bishoujo Mangekyou, was easier to read than I thought.

>> No.22325639

今何を読んでいる?

>> No.22325763

>>22325639
パパドキッ!。意外とシナリオは楽しくて、娘たちも可愛くて、シコリティも上々。絶対に神ゲーだぜこりゃ

>> No.22325808

>>22325763
それは面白そうね!

>> No.22326499

>>22324184
>EOP
Guy was a JP-EN translator, but yeah, he had retarded opinions.

>> No.22326584

>>22321414
>>22321581
>>22321777
There are people who want actual romance in games with harem whores? There's a reason why there aren't, harem relationships are inherently devoid of any sort of emotional connection or intimacy. And then trying to put them in a serious story is like trying to make nudists or exhibitionists the main characters of a story, it's just ridiculous.

>> No.22326603

>>22326584
>harem relationships are inherently devoid of any sort of emotional connection or intimacy
No they're not. Your whole posts sounds like you're just baiting

>> No.22326737

>>22326603
You can't have a legitimate relationship with sluts.

>> No.22326754

>>22326737
A girl who only has sex with one man isn't a slut

>> No.22326857

>>22326754
Group sex/poly relationships are inherently slutty. That's why nobody makes serious romance/story-centered games about them.

>> No.22326901

>>22326857
Actual harem girls are the least slutty girls possible because they're so devoted to one man they would rather share him than be with anyone else.

>> No.22326943 [DELETED] 

>>22326901
Rather they're so desperate for validation and attention that they force themselves to be with the mc and sleep with him/other girls just to keep him. That's not love, that's daddy issues.

>b-but 2d!
That's like saying a 2d girl who stays with a wifebeater loves him so much that she stays even though he abuses her. No matter how you explain it it reeks of her being pathetic.

>> No.22326960

>>22326901
Rather they're so desperate for validation and attention that they force themselves to be with the mc and sleep with him/other girls just to keep him. That's not love, that's daddy issues.

>b-but 2d!
That's like saying a 2d girl who stays with a wifebeater loves him so much that she stays even though he abuses her. No matter how you explain it it reeks of her being pathetic. You can say what it is: desperation and no confidence. I would rather read a nukige like that than have it glorified as some pure love bs.

>> No.22326982

>>22326960
It's okay to just say you don't like the concept instead of making up definitions and labels to slap on to them.

>> No.22327009

>>22326960
You're just projecting you're hangups with 3D onto idealized 2D. Harems have nothing to do with abuse, if a man can have a healthy and loving relationship with multiple girls simultaneously then he there's nothing wrong with it.
Is that realistic? Who cares, we're talking about fiction. 99% of relationships depicted in eroge are completely idealized and unrealistic anyway. Just because you dislike something doesn't mean other people can't find enjoyment in it

>> No.22327070

>>22318413
Now you OWE me a sauce

>> No.22327090

Any vns with genderbent best friend(male to female) as heroine?

>> No.22327150

>>22327090
Miel/Norn has some games with that premise

>> No.22327328

>>22327090
Flyable CandyHeart

>> No.22327408

Any vns where you romance JC girls?

>> No.22327521

>>22327408
None because all heroines are always supposed to be 18+
I guess you have games like Damekoi where the girl graduates and advances to another school with uniform so you can assume they are supposed to be a JC, same kind of endings happen in https://vndb.org/v7748 if you don't mind a nukige.

>> No.22327571

>>22327408
Not JC but Licia in 穢翼のユースティア is around 11 years old since another character says she was starting to say her first words 10 years ago.

>> No.22327575

>>22324368
I just thought it was weird and surreal. Like it came out of nowhere

>> No.22327833

Speaking of harem, I'm having a blast with Tomefure.

>> No.22327916
File: 311 KB, 1246x827, EHpxEtIUYAECIrm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22327916

>>22327833
Is it actually good? I never played that because of all the cowtits.
Their new game looks more interesting, though I wonder if they'll be able to handle so many heroines.

>> No.22328203
File: 691 KB, 555x823, 2298198946889.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22328203

>> No.22328507

Bros, what happened to all the bros in eroge? Don't seem to see them anymore in modern eroge, the closest things to them are no spriten nameless "highschooler A"s. I swear next we will drop to no male mc yuri shit before ultimately becoming all ages cute girls doing mundane shit, that's if the medium doesn't outright die in a burning ball of gacha mobage cash grabs before then.

>> No.22328518

>>22328507
Eroge "bros" were a waste of time. They only fit in plotge, chuunige or NTRge.

>> No.22328538
File: 853 KB, 1280x2078, 1477088221318.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22328538

>>22328518
buttmonkey bros can be pretty good though

>> No.22328642
File: 707 KB, 816x638, zm_hH92e5lABk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22328642

I usually pity the childhood friend character because they are destined to never ever win, but man Yuukis a huge bitch. I actually want her to get sidelined.

>> No.22328700

So in regards to haram what a nice chat you guys are having bare with my autism for a while.

Unironically long ago 'coupling 文化' was the norm.
So what really began the change with things like oretuee+harem etc to become a thing later down the road? Stuff like legendary nakige Kanon(1999) as one example. How you ask?

In Kanon as you know very bad and ugly things can happen to the heroines, life is truly suffering but the MC Yuichi-kun bless his soul saves them from their tragic endings where even death is very likely.
However if Yuichi-kun let's say saves one heroine what happens to the others? In Kanon as you know there are such circumstances that they can't just ask a random ikemen for help it has to be Yuichi-kun so when the players went for a second run to help other heroines they were effectively leaving the rest of the heroines to their demise. Why can't Yuichi-kun save them all? Why?why?

And so the derivative work patricians got busy, usually at that time altering the original was even more of a sin then it is now so they kinda wrote them as additional endings, Yuichi-kun who manages to save everyone and score them. What? What do you mean he's effectively cheating on the first heroine? What is more important? Should he let the girls die/leave them to their terrible fate?
No absolutely not.

And so was born the ultimate super Yuichi , competent in all fields, having such time schedule and being such a chad that he was able to save all of them.
But having abandoned 1:1 coupling meant basically pursuing a harem

But then he managed to get so close and bond with all the girls he saved(you know if he effectively did every route) would he just dump the heroines and let some other guy have them ?(this was a thing for a while too the 'leftover girl coupling' which people

>> No.22328716

>>22328642
That doesn't even apply in eroge. The childhood friend pretty much always has a route. With the same old gimmicks you've seen 5 million times before, because the childhood friend needs to have the typical childhood friend bullshit going. She always loved him. Some kinda promise. Flashback galore.
While with anime or whatever it's a little different, childhood friends are a terrible thing in eroge, as they are supposed to lose but don't, which usually makes zero sense. If they were always in love, they'd be a couple by fucking middle school. The cheap "but she/he moved away" isn't helping to make it less awkward either.

tl;dr: Fuck the childhood friend trope in eroge.

>> No.22328726

>>22328716
>Fuck the childhood friend trope in eroge.
How about trying to not be autistic and just skipping their routes like I do?

>> No.22328731
File: 2.12 MB, 1791x2048, Stella.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22328731

>>22328507
>the closest things to them are no spriten nameless "highschooler A"s
Maybe if the only stuff you're playing is nukige and single heroine crap, bigger budget stuff still has bros and other male side characters.

>> No.22328735

>>22328700
The protag doesn't need to save them all, as the problem only appears when the protag gets involved. Don't you know eroge basics? Everyone is happy until YOU appear. Think about that for a sec.

>> No.22328736

>>22328716
Eroge usually have a childhood friend route but it's almost always low effort and filled with pointless drama to fill in time since the heroine and hero already know and have feelings for each other. How many VNs have a true route where the childhood friend wins? Or have the main heroine of the cast be the childhood friend? That's more what I meant by them never winning.

However, this childhood friend in particular is especially egregious. She shows up and immediately starts abusing and publicly humiliating the MC (whose a faggy hetare to be fair), and then drives better heroines away.

>> No.22328739

>>22328700
cont

which people here take for granted but it wasn't too popular)
Absolutely fucking not. Rather to choose the MC than some bald old man.
And so called gainen the root of harem to come was formed. In those days btw even webnovelwise the readers didn't accept something as ridiculous as harem readily it was harshly criticized.

anyway thus in fan fiction sites began the traction of 'if they're unhappy in the original I'll fix this, give me a proper happy ending' and this also had huge influence on non derivative works, admittedly Eva's role in this just as huge.

Now the first problem harem writers bumped into. After all having the MC two time and do something so morally wrong was still an issue especially when the readers didn't want to accept them so readily sothey thought:
"what if we you know have the MC simply not choose and stretch the story eternally! Cockblocks, accidents! Anything works! Marvelous!"
The so called thick headed donkan MC 'harems' were born.

eventually that came to an end, since the readers were sick of it and MCs had to choose,
And finally authors came to a conclusion 'just make it an actual harem lmao'
Oh but wait. Another issue. Marriage, family etc how are we going to accomplish that in Japan? We don't want them to move to Saudi Arabia do we?

So they came to a brilliant conclusion 'what if we make it a world where bigamy is acceptable!' hence isekai.

And this finally led to some serious changes they didn't just change the original with derivative works anymore what began as some harmless fun turned into something much much bigger which is the horde of WN to LN adaptions harems we have now where polygamy can be normal.

>> No.22328744

>>22328726
Because there are good characters getting ruined by a shitty and overused trope? I mean, this is a general issue, characters getting ruined by their route. Childhood friends are especially hit by that though.

>> No.22328752

>>22328735
Yea I'm just recounting how it all started or at least what were many people's thoughts and how I remember before the actual harem LNs became a thing.

>> No.22329668
File: 67 KB, 900x506, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22329668

TrymenT trial will be out on 11/22

Oh god I am so fucking hyped, there is a high chance now that we will get the full game before the year ends.

>> No.22329737

>>22327070
I said what the sauce was in my post.

>> No.22330115

>>22329668
I'm pretty excited. the art is godly.
Not a fan of female MCs for stuff like this though.

>> No.22330141

>>22330115
Have you even played a VN with a female MC with "stuff like this"?

>> No.22330152

>>22330141
>woman with issues
>tries to find herself
>yuri
There's enough manga like this, and I enjoy none. Yuri is just boring.

>> No.22330264

>>22330152
Okay, thanks for confirming that you have no idea what you are talking about.

>> No.22330462
File: 440 KB, 1580x799, screenshot-haganai-game.channel.or.jp 2019-10-28 17-49-31.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22330462

What is this about? did they make an update or something? I don't remember it being a fantasy game, it even selling on play-asia now, it was supposed to be a limited edition release.

>> No.22330468

it's* ftfm.

>> No.22330623

>>22330152
That's still a lot more unique than male setups in eroge though.

>> No.22330770

>>22330623
Unique doesn't mean good.

>> No.22331306
File: 43 KB, 173x220, thunking(rabbit).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22331306

any ntr vns?

>> No.22331308

https://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv322569861

>> No.22331331

>>22331306
not a single one

>> No.22331337
File: 55 KB, 224x219, pissedoff(rabbit).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22331337

>>22331331
Seriously?

>> No.22331428

>>22331337
Yeah
I read every single just to be sure

>> No.22331685

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT9HSwqubwk&feature=youtu.be
>Japan is going for the modern pixel game trend

>> No.22331903

>>22331685
Who are you quoting?

>> No.22331964

>>22331428
damn

>> No.22332033
File: 651 KB, 640x480, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22332033

Is there more like Goeppels-chan's VN series? Intentionally cheesy music and low production values in general with questionable content? The first time I've laughed at japanese humor in years.

>> No.22332046

>>22332033
Yeah, there's plenty of OELVN like that.

>> No.22332527

How long is the common route in Tsuki Kana

>> No.22333438

>>22332527
Not that long, to reach the after part I think around 10-15 hours iirc

>> No.22333456

>>22330152
>Yuri is just boring.
True.

Would rather it at least be an otome game if it's
gonna be a chick mc.

>> No.22333491

CUTE CUTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIPTVdknffk

>> No.22333681
File: 273 KB, 560x560, 1504077046016.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22333681

bros, after years of cooming to vns i can only jerk my limp ramen noodle to only the most disgusting NTR
any recommendations?

>> No.22333685

>>22333681
Go to the h-game general you degenerate.

>> No.22333709

>>22333685
>implying vn are about anything else except cooming
lol homo, are you here for the art style?

>> No.22333831

>VN protag is a generic spineless hetare donkan wimp
>other characters in VN call him a hetare
>"Look see, we are recognising the trope so it's okay for us to use it at face value!"
its not, sick of this crap. at least hetare protags arent as common as they used to be, but still playing older vns they are everywhere

>> No.22335832

>>22315923

>> No.22335935

what do i need to play before winter in uso series, just the first one?

>> No.22335954

>>22335935
nevermind

>> No.22336246

I know Dies Irae is translated but the newer HD version doesn't have a reliable hook.

Does anyone know where to get the non-HD version of the game so I can hook and read it in Japanese?

>> No.22336291

>>22336246
>hook
>read it in Japanese
Pick one

>> No.22336295

>>22336291
I ain't finna look up obscure kanji by handwriting or radicals.

>> No.22337109

>>22336295
The game does not have obscure kanji.

>> No.22337117

>>22337109
Wow, look how smart you are!

>> No.22337128

>>22337109
I highly doubt that

>> No.22337490

>>22336295
>finna
Learn both English and Japanese and try again.

>> No.22337493

>>22337490
get laid

>> No.22337512

>>22337493
No thanks. I think I'll play Dies Irae without a text hooker instead.

>> No.22337616

>>22337490
you dont even know english

>> No.22337871

Picked up Mekuiro again (because new title coming up) and man, Tsubaki route is great so far. Was not expecting Touki to confess first.

>> No.22338375

Any eroge where there is a heroine with huge breasts but isn't a nukige?

>> No.22338384

>>22338375
Sorry, there are none.

>> No.22338535

>>22338375
Heroine as in main heroine? Trinoline.

>> No.22339608

>>22337871
I really like Tsubaki's and even more her nee-san's design. It's a shame they didn't feel like writing a route for her even as an FD, it would've been something really crazy.

>> No.22339710

https://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv322569861
they just confirmed that narahara left the company

>> No.22339713

>>22339710
only took them 10 years to confirm something we already know
which mountain is he training on?

>> No.22340115

>>22339710
Any more details?

>> No.22340144
File: 1.26 MB, 5120x2700, 1491454375535.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22340144

>>22340115

>> No.22340148

>>22340144
Faggots want to milk Narahara's masterpiece.

>> No.22340151
File: 843 KB, 905x927, 1562989697285.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22340151

>>22340144

>> No.22340307

>playing through a vn
>feel horny all of a sudden and feel the urge to skip ahead to the sex scenes.
>End up skipping through the whole game
>Game ends with the mc being raped or what looks like it during the credits
>I can't skip the credits during it
>Taken to a new start screen with one option avaliable.
>Can't go back to my old saves they're all blacked out.
Should i just reinstall?
I have no idea what's going on with the plot or anything.

>> No.22340637

>>22340307
That's why you have a complete save data before installing the game for the first time.
What game though?

>> No.22340668

>>22340637
雪の夜、俺は妹を裸にする。

>> No.22340805

>>22340668
How slow do you read? You can get to the porn in less than an hour in that game.
The option you're getting is likely for an afterstory or a flashback since the game always forces you to view those when you finish a route, after you read it you'll be able to use you old saves.
Game's not that good anyway, better play some of their older stuff like Low Spec.

>> No.22340983

namaniku needs to become woke and hire some writer and turn his ass doujins into a nukige

>> No.22341347
File: 120 KB, 800x600, gekkou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22341347

I'm dropping Gekkou no Carnevale. I wanted to like it. I like the setting, atmosphere, music and the production values are great as well. (lots of backgrounds for example) But, as always, the writing and story are just nowhere near good.

Honestly, why do writers love basing their predictable story around misunderstandings between characters so much? Why do they like to care so little about characters acting in ways that can be believable instead of doing anything just to advance the plot into the predictable direction they want it to go? Also, kick the dog villains are awful. Why not actually put a LITTLE work into villains? Gotta say, I've not seen a more by the book "kick the dog" villain scene like this in a while.
Of course, the answer to all of that is: Because most readers apparently don't care either. A shame though, because the setting and SOME characters show some promise. Ever since Rebecca started to appear, everything went downhill fast though. To the point I've not even managed to get till the final heroine. Not like that would matter at this point, given the general quality of the story and writing. Everything feels so fucking artificial. No natural flow whatsoever. I can't care anymore.


Oh well, onto the next.

>> No.22342935

>>22339608
I dont like Miyako that much but Im already looking forward to the Tsubaki Renka fandisc. Will try to complete both titles before Mekurabe.

>> No.22343075
File: 14 KB, 487x423, 1516157954396.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22343075

anyone know of an ntr vn where your childhood girl next door best friend gets fugged by your bully, and then you go and cry to your mum about it and he ntrs your mum? i had a dream about this scenario last night and my pp has had the most blood thats been in it since 2011, please i need release brahs

>> No.22343347

>>22337871
What is it like anyway, is it just a moege with action scenes?

>> No.22343687

>>22322734
I fap to small, medium, big on a rotation

>> No.22343931

>>22343075
stop being a cuck.

>> No.22343940

>>22343931
Stop replying to bait.

>> No.22344152

>the heroines have flavor quotes for halloween in main menu in study steady
now that's pretty cool, kinda wanna mess with the clock to see if they have christmas quotes too.

>> No.22344214

>>22315923
Just downloaded フェノメノ for my Halloween game. Love ABes art so hopefully itll be good.

>> No.22344251

>>22343347
Charage with action scenes

>> No.22344678

>>22344214
Just so you know, its an adaption of the first 2 books of a series and ends on a cliffhanger. Check out the other volumes once you're done.

>> No.22345172
File: 241 KB, 843x945, firefox_aSUAUq7R4M.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22345172

Oh wow, they actually drew extra details to accommodate the new aspect ratio instead of cropping it. That's amazing.

>> No.22345332

>>22345172
Jeez, is this necessary?

>> No.22345424

>>22345172
I think that was meant to be the original image

>> No.22345491

>>22345172
Are there actually any remasters where they crop instead of just leaving it 4:3? I mean I can see cropping backgrounds making sense sometimes, but cropping CGs is just terrible.

>> No.22345545

>>22345491
Dies irae's HD version.

>> No.22345760

>>22345491
Basically every other remaster from 4:3 to 16:9.

>> No.22345824

>>22329737
what post? I'm not sure if I'm retarded or if you are joking

>> No.22347029

>>22344678
First two stories of the first book, not two books

>> No.22347033

https://irdeto.com/news/dmm-games-llc-enlists-denuvo-to-protect-new-releases/

Enjoy your Denuvo on eroge

>> No.22347068

>>22347033
>Haha, you paid for this game a few years ago?
>Too bad! You can't play it anymore because the servers are dead!

Japanese don't give a single fuck about preservation and they love exclusivity so I'm guessing it will be widespread in a few years.

>> No.22347071

will debutopia ever happen

>> No.22347108

>>22347033
The chinks will find a way. I believe in them.

>> No.22347204

>>22345824
I was making a joke. It's Raillore.

>> No.22347303

>>22347033
>DMM
Oh, come the fuck on. First the gaijin block that prevents you from accessing games you've literally paid for and now this.

>> No.22347588

>>22347108
2djgame/mikocon are a bunch of clowns. The maidrmbuster guy might be able to make a solution but I wouldn't hold my breath.

>> No.22347797

>>22347033
Isn't most stuff released physical only first anyway? And even when the games get a download edition some months later they don't always use DMM to sell it.
I guess this will only be a problem for DMM brands like Azurite,Fluorite and Heliodor, unless DMM somehow convinces every dev to sell though it's platform and becomes an eroge Steam.

>> No.22348189

>>22347797
Some physical disc games still require you to install DMM game player.

>> No.22348260

>>22315923
why's he kissing that five year old?

>> No.22348325

>>22347303
DMM blocks gaijin?

>> No.22348486
File: 397 KB, 1458x1390, go home white pig, revenge for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22348486

>>22348325
You can access the entire site when not logged in. However if you log in and and it detects you're connecting from outside Japan it gives you the below message while trying to access blocked parts of the site. Also gives the same error when trying to access the list of your owned games that you purchased pre-block. So yeah, fuck them.

>> No.22349077

Why is this place so dead despite having 80ips? Are the majority just people who discuss off-topic and don't even read or what's up?

Sorry I don't post here usually, but I'm reading something and wanted to chip in but the place is a shithole going by this thread so nah.

>> No.22349604

>>22348486
That's weird.

I just logged in and checked the pages of several games, and didn't get that message. I had the option to buy them. Also could access the download page for my purchased games, worked just fine.

Of course I dont know where you are, but I'm in the U.S.

I can't imagine them picking and choosing which gaijin to ban though.

>> No.22349818

>>22347033
Le fcuk. We're toast, bros.

Like seriously, because I doubt some random chinks can beat Denuvo.

>> No.22349845

>>22347033
Thank god, now I will finally be able to clear my backlog.

>> No.22349881

>>22349818
Random chinks are the ones beating denuvo on mainstream games, aren't they? Personally I don't consider anything with such bullshit drm to worth playing, nor anyone who would use it to be deserving of my money, so it's not much of a loss to me.

>> No.22349886

>>22349881
No. CODEX, CPY etc. are.

>> No.22349912
File: 297 KB, 830x455, head.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22349912

>>22349881
But DMM released this year's VNOTY, would be a shame to not be able to play their games anymore.

>> No.22349918

>>22349912
just fund codex or someone to crack for us, good time to get away from chink reliance.

>> No.22349972

>>22349918
I don't think real scene groups are gonna suddenly be interested in eroge just because they beefed up the DRM.

>> No.22349992

>>22349912
Oh well. I'm not so attached to recent releases that I'm going to pay full price to rent a game. I'm sure plenty of other people will be fine doing so though, which is why DMM is doing this to begin with. They know they can get away with it.

>> No.22350172

>>22349077
This thread last for days so it's likely the same person can end posting with multiple IPs.
There's probably less that 20 people that actively post here and the majority of them hate modern eroge releases so there's really nothing to talk about, the only time the thread becomes active is when people have retarded arguments about self-insertion or using text hookers

>> No.22350229

>>22347033
although this is a nice joke considering how expensive denuvo is this doesn't mean anything till dmm rolls it out, this could be for normal games or just their rental service so we'll have to wait and see. if it's the former then pirates might be fucked because even if denuvo is crackable no one good enough to do so cares about eroge, and if it's the latter then it won't even matter

>> No.22350314

>>22347033
Isn’t this a bit too late considering the state of this medium? I honestly believe this will do more harm than good.
Also yea I don’t know if some random chinks will be able to crack denuvo, basically the ONLY ones doing it now even over here are CODEX not to mention some versions can take months since they only focus on big AAA releases first and even it takes a while.
doubt they would bother will Eroge considering they have their hands full as it is.

>> No.22350368

>>22349912
I still don't know if this VN is good, or if people are memeing.

>> No.22350478

>>22350368
Yes.

>> No.22350618

>>22350368
Can you repeat the question?

>> No.22350665

>>22349077
This thread doesn't need retarded spam by mentally ill people. If you want that, you can always go to /vg/.

>> No.22350881

>>22350368
It's rather obvious, given how it's brought up in the exact same way all the time, using an expression that literally nobody else uses.

>> No.22350902

>>22350368
It's decent and for this year that's pretty good.

>> No.22351291

>>22350172
>and the majority of them hate modern eroge releases
Why? I'm enjoying Sorceress * Alive

>> No.22351998

>>22350368
>people are memeing
peopl are doing what, excuse me?

>> No.22352421

>>22337871
Those Alvine bgms were god tier
https://muxiv.com/playing/1352580180
https://muxiv.com/playing/530801885
Same with the vocal tracks by ALNEAR.

>> No.22352460

Anyone has a link to the 恋ではなく OST?

>> No.22352500

http://www.web-marmalade.com/products/sts/campaign/vote-campaign.html
>senpai that treats you like a baby wins by over a thousand votes
What the fuck is wrong with the Japs?

>> No.22352512

>>22352500
Amaama is a great thing.

>> No.22352552

>>22352512
It's retarded, especially when they start using some dumb baby speech and call themselves ママ during h-scenes, how do you fap to shit like that?

>> No.22352560

>>22352552
It's really hot.
I feel the same with people who fap to loli and you don't see me whining about it.

>> No.22352610
File: 583 KB, 1600x900, NUKITASHI2_20190802_042554.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22352610

>>22352560
What if a loli does it?

>> No.22352614
File: 481 KB, 1920x1080, リリ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22352614

>> No.22352618

>>22352610
That's just a really short and flat high schooler.
Not an actual loli.

>> No.22352619

>>22352614
I want an anime adaption

>> No.22352629
File: 804 KB, 1600x900, NUKITASHI_20190529_140029.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22352629

>>22352618
Right, how could I forget.

>> No.22352660

>>22352560
I'm just annoyed at how it's ruining some heroines, it's almost guaranteed anyone that's older or acts superior to the MC is gonna get some scene like that, why can't they keep that stuff on fetish games like Babumi?

>> No.22352664

>>22352660
Because a big part of the fanbase of said games, like the popularity poll indicates, likes it.
So it's not ruining, but enhancing.

>> No.22352969
File: 279 KB, 1280x720, newton_02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22352969

>>22352660
It's like asking why lolis always have to piss. Eroge at this point aren't going to do anything but the absolute standard. If they do something else, people get quickly mad. Pic related didn't amuse some people, but I was happy it was an actually bonus ero scene. That stuff just makes sense with the character. Better that, than a 180° change in personality just for the lewds.

>> No.22353056

>>22352969
>It's like asking why lolis always have to piss
Older girls weren't always mommies, it's more of a recent trend.

>> No.22353349
File: 1.76 MB, 1920x1080, ProbablyEvil.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22353349

My instincts are telling me that this guy will be the final antagonist, not Okonogi. The nondescript, seemingly unimportant character who fades in the background can not be trusted in Japanese media or mystery books. I had a similar premonition about the characters in Danganronpa V3, Trails in the Sky, and Persona 4, and was right each time, they were hidden antagonists intented to shock non genre savy people; didn't work on me.

The conversation that occurred in this picture was too suspicious, the most suspicious part being this guy being the last person to be with Soujin before he mysteriously lost his memory after going unconscious from an 'explosion'. Nah, this guy probably beat Soujin unconscious and erased his memory. Honestly, I can not even remember his name, because he barely gets screen-time, but I do know that his role in the plot so far makes him very suspect.

Or I am just overthinking things and what I wrote is completely wrong. I will play more and see for myself.

>> No.22353471

Watanabe Ryouichi's new work will be announced next week, whatever that is I am excited.

Btw what did you guys think of Kanoseka? I don't see it discussed much here.

>> No.22353509

>>22353471
We don't actually discuss any eroge here.

>> No.22353521

>>22353471
The humor and the beginning with the hiking and camping was kinda good but the fag got pretty annoying and maybe I'm a retard but in the end I didn't understand what the point of it was, whenever it was getting interesting it just reset the world to start another route until it ended.

>> No.22353672

Did any of you read Yume Miru Kusuri? I found this on the virtual disc which is a parody of the OP, but I don't understand javanese:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1_2yzAema4

>> No.22353838

>>22352969
>It's like asking why lolis always have to piss.
Funny how the loli in your pic isn't related.

>> No.22353951

>>22353838
The writer did an entire piss related route for a titty girl before Newrin, so he probably likes it that way more? Dunno. Didn't read it, just heard about it.
>In her dreams, she is quite innocent about sex but also has a pee fetish, and has the desire to pee on Kimito constantly.

>> No.22354025

>>22353471
Find that his works have just being getting worse and worse, might still be worth checking out though but i'm going to keep expectations low.

>> No.22354465

What's the most disappointing eroge that came out this year?

>> No.22354474

>>22354465
ryuusei world actor, although I guess it was kinda expected.

>> No.22354491

>>22354474
Was the ending the problem? I only played the maid route in Akagoei, it ended like:
Kaito: I brutally raped you when I was a child
Tsuki: Don't mind
End

>> No.22354515

>>22354491
the epilogue pretty much made all routes pointless and is a segway into the mobage.

>> No.22354598

>>22353471
I loved Kanoseka it felt very all-out Watanabe

>> No.22354621

>>22352552
>>22352660
I agree, it ruins it completely. Nowadays an older heroine means she should be your bangmaid mommy who wipes your ass. Same with younger girls now too, except with the appearance of a little sister. Recent eroge sucks with this, there's no romance or chemistry, all the girls are just boring doormats.

>> No.22354696
File: 1.39 MB, 1280x720, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22354696

>>22354621
As far as recent older heroines goes I liked the sensei from Renkari, she feels older but the interactions with the MC still feel like equals and instead of resorting to weird mommy roleplay you basically end up getting a mom for your imouto.

>> No.22354699

>>22354696
actually liked her route the most.

>> No.22354737

>>22354696
I'm reading it now and I like her a lot, but I was worried to see how her route would turn out. Great to hear they didn't go with the whole mommy thing. I couldn't imagine it with how the MC is either, but it's not like japs haven't changed personalities in h-scenes before.

>> No.22355046

>>22354491
>Kaito: I brutally raped you when I was a child
>Tsuki: Don't mind

Kinda hot, desu.

>> No.22355451

>>22354474
I wonder how much copies Ryuusei sold. I remember the producer doing the hell work to make it a huge hit in sales

>> No.22355507

>>22354696
She was a great Mafuyu expy.

>> No.22355729

>>22352552
Hot

>> No.22355971

I love little girls!!!

>> No.22356120
File: 331 KB, 1280x720, hoshikoi_00.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22356120

>>22355971

>> No.22356265

What's your top 3 kamige, or at least your top 3 favorite games?

>> No.22356289

>>22356265
My favorites, not necessarily what I think is objectively the best though.

Muramasa
Chushingura 46+1
Hikouki gumo no mukougawa

>> No.22356451

>>22356265
Dasaku, dasaku fd and chronobox.

>> No.22356570

Umineko
-Excellent music that is great in context and listenable outside reading
-Many strong themes, such as negative effect greed can have on people or even an entire family, the subjective nature of our perceptions and reality, gender identity and how that can effect ones thoughts
-Many different mysteries to solve
-Over the top, engaging debates between witches and an overemotional borderline moronic protagonist
-Great use of metanarrative concerning mystery in general, mystery tropes, mystery detectives, how people consume mystery, how people react when they disliked the mystery, etc
-Beatrice is one of the best characters ever

Fate/Stay Night

-Iconic characters because of their designs and characterization
-Great premise involving getting caught up in a small scale conflict with historical figures
-Emiya theme
-Great,easy to understand theme about altruism and the nature of heroism
-Nasu built a unique, tense and slighlty dark atmosphere that was not saccharine but not grimdark that has yet to be replicated in the franchise
-Jackhammer Rin

Sengoku Koihime x
-I simply respect the effort it must have taken to create such a massive eroge. There are so much content in it, it's insane. All of the plot events and side stories are entertaining to me despite the length and amount of characters involved, which greatly impresses me. Still playing though.

>> No.22356679

>>22356265
cross chanel or saihate, demonbane and sakuuta.

>> No.22356732
File: 201 KB, 881x684, 1568678811098.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22356732

Rock kino is back on the menu boys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhKUfWA6ppA

>> No.22356746

>>22356570
>how people react when they disliked the mystery
You mean
>how the author attacks the fanbase when his answer to the mystery is the most retarded shit ever
It's one of the most terrible mysteries ever written.

>> No.22356747

>>22356265
Muramasa
Cross Channel
Dies Irae

>> No.22356752

>>22356679
can I enjoy demonbane if i already know that one lady is nyarly?

>> No.22356769
File: 103 KB, 646x360, when asked to comment on dmm using denuvo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22356769

>>22347588
Just being laidback enough to reference a meme in his answer gives me some hope.
The monkey's paw situation would be him actually succeeding but locking it behind a billion forum levels or something though. But in any case it'll be interesting to see how things develop from here.

>> No.22356817

>>22356769
Many games can still be "cracked" by replacing the exe with another one from a different game with the same engine or the trial. He did this when he pissed off the akabeisoft shachou.
Now the really hilarious thing is going to if he writes an universal tool that cracks Denuvo like he did with PlayDRM. Some random chink achieves what the scene groups could not.

>> No.22356828

>>22356746
>It's one of the most terrible mysteries ever written.

There are worse mysteries in crappy mystery books such as Still Life. Figured that one out within 50 pages. Even some lesser known Agatha Christie mystery presented a more boring, formulaic mystery than Umineko, with the bland, one-dimensional characters not helping getting invested in the first place.

You might think the solution is stupid, but it was heavily foreshadowed since the second episode and and is completely plausible when you consider that an entire group of characters are accomplices that are assisting the culprit. Rosa even states the most suspicious group of characters in the first episode. Considering the culprits personal situation at the time, the power he had, and the ineptness of Battler, the mystery and solution to in in episode 1-4 make complete sense.

The goats represented the people who had a tunnel vision focus on 'whodunit' at the expense appreciating literally everything else, including the themes, characterization, character development, action scenes, trolling, and heartwarming scenes of the game. Similar to Bernkastel's mentality, that is why she is the villain. "I didn't like the solution to the mystery, so the entire visual novel sucked!" BAAAH! Give me a break.

>> No.22356846

>>22356265
FSN
Himawari
G senjou no Maou

>> No.22356868

>>22356265
Rance (only as a series, so no particular game), Kamidori, Venus Blood Lagoon

>> No.22356958

>>22356817
>Now the really hilarious thing is going to if he writes an universal tool that cracks Denuvo like he did with PlayDRM.
I hope not, he should hoard it for a while if it figures out something like that.

>> No.22357041

>>22356817
The reason for that is simply because Denuvo!=Denuvo. There are many many different kind of versions. It's in active development after all. It's the same idea like trying to make a virus that always will work no matter the anti virus engine the computer uses or will ever use.

>> No.22357127

>>22347033
Doesn't Denuvo cost like between 50,000 and 100,000 dollars or someshit depending on the game?
Aren't they afraid that's going to cut into already declining profits?

>> No.22357343

>>22357127
They probably negotiated some deal where you pay a flat rate per month.

>> No.22357674
File: 168 KB, 1254x704, 1214fwe23.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22357674

NEW BIMAN FUCKING WHEN?!?!?!
I can't handle the wait anymore

>> No.22358114

>>22357674
Pretty sure Omegastar are finished, anon.

>> No.22358267

>>22356828
yeah, it's pretty cool how heavy on the foreshadowing Umineko can be. re-reading episode 2 is quite a ride when you know what's going on. I really like Umineko a lot and its ending might be my favorite ending to a visual novel ever.

I have some qualms about how the manga handles the solution but you should check out the episode 8 manga if you haven't. I found the manga's ending to be even more of a tearjerker than the vn's personally

>> No.22359000

>>22356265
Saihate no ima, cross channel, air

>> No.22359247

>>22356752
anyone?

>> No.22359433
File: 1.00 MB, 1280x960, Demonbane_20.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22359433

>>22359247
It's not much of a spoiler. It's clear pretty early on that almost everything is a 1:1 straight from the cthulhu mythos.

>> No.22359505

>>22355507
>mafuyu expy
Picked up

>> No.22359532

>>22355507
>Mafuyu expy.
what does this mean anon?

>> No.22359559

>>22359532
Mafuyu from bokuben.

>> No.22359564

>>22359559
>Mafuyu from bokuben
oh, thank you anon. I agree.

>> No.22359746

>>22356570
>Sengoku Koihime x
>I simply respect the effort it must have taken to create such a massive eroge
I mean it's smaller than some of Basesons other games and it's pretty blatantly unfinished. Starts off very strong but starts falling apart around when Miku is introduced and it never recovers. The game desperately needed to be a ripoff of SKM rather than a ripoff of KM as it was.

>> No.22359975

I'm starved for playing games similar to Elf's later titles (such as Ningen Debris/ Biniku no Kaori), so I'm thinking about trying out Ai Shimai IV. Does it have a similar vibe?

>> No.22360617

>>22359746
>Starts off very strong
I've not seen any of that.

>> No.22360626
File: 466 KB, 1536x2048, 1550236492862.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
22360626

>>22360617
The first about third of the game is easily the best part of it so if you didn't think that was good don't even bother with the rest

>> No.22361092

Has anyone played 誰もが彼女を狙ってる。? Is it worth the money?

>> No.22361103

>>22361092
if it has misonoo mei in it, it can't be bad.

>> No.22361970

Redpill me on Soukki Akki Muramasa

>> No.22362008

>>22361970
It's good if you're good & like the setting/theme.

>> No.22362082

>>22362008
When you say if you're good you mean good at the language or from a moral standpoint?
From what I heard about the game both could apply
When you say it's good, how good we talking about?

>> No.22362195

>>22362082
Moral standpoint. Most of the time, the language itself is pretty stale.

>> No.22362482

>>22361970
I'm going to bluepill you instead. It's not the greatest eroge work of art ever to grace our timeline.

>> No.22363712

>>22358114
How does it die while filth like yuzusoft continues to create more same, boring shit every year?

>> No.22363817

What are some easy yet entertaining vns for a newbie at nihongo

>> No.22363906

>>22363817
装甲悪鬼村正
神咒神威神楽
信天翁航海録
紅殻町博物誌
霞外籠逗留記
花散峪山人考

>> No.22363959

>>22363817
Debutopia

>> No.22364119

>>22362482
>It's not the greatest eroge work of art ever to grace our timeline.
That's because saihate no ima is.

>> No.22364331

>>22363817
Wrong thread, go ask /djt/

>> No.22364594

>>22364119
neither holds a candle to 鬼威航博逗山

>>
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action