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前スレ: >>21110247

>> No.21118937

>>21118872
theres no such thing as incorrect pitch because there are 20 different variations of pitch style across japan.

what you're saying is like telling someone from fukushima they should brush up on their pitch accent if they dont want to get made fun of.

its their fuckin accent, it's how life is. just fucking accept people will think you say some words differently. noones fucking cringing about it when a gaijin says pitch accent wrong. they'll literally get on your knees and suck your dick if you can even say arigatou gozaimasu.

>> No.21118946

>>21118937
theres still incorrect intonation

easiest way is to just take the word こんにちは and look at the million ways to say it wrong and then the way to say it right

>> No.21118960

>attain perfect itibantuyoigaijin pitch
>lose the only thing cool about you
>get fired
>lose girlfriend
>friends stop talking to you

>> No.21118968

What's the cool thing you lost to get you fired?

>> No.21118970

>>21118934
>learn perfect pitch accent for tokyo
>go to Hiroshima and your pitch accent is useless
>Go on djt and tell everyone that if you dont have proper pitch accent they are stupid unintelligible gaijin anyway

>> No.21118974

>>21118937
>there's no such thing as incorrect pitch
as far as 標準語, yes there is. Natives that don't use 標準語's pitch accent aren't wrong by their own regions standards, but as has already been said, and can demonstrably be shown, other Japanese people still give them shit about it.
>noones fucking cringing about it when a gaijin says pitch accent wrong
甘いっすね. If you don't care about pitch accent that's fine, but acting like most of them don't care and would much more prefer if you spoke with correct pitch accent is naive

>> No.21118993

>>21118974
look some random videos of literal comedy shows where they are paid to take the piss out of each other or ppl being dicks online isnt enough proof that the avg native gives a fuck about pitch accent mistakes

u can say がんばるぞい if you like and noones gonna give a fuck

if you actually lived in japan at any point you'd realise that noone cares and are just happy to meet a gaijin they can even fuckin communicate with at all

>> No.21119005

as long as your vowels and consonants are right and your prosody matches what you're trying to express and you're not pitching words the exact opposite of the way you're supposed to you're gonna be fine

>> No.21119019

matt is gay

>> No.21119035

okay, i'll be the first one to admit that I kinda miss quizfag

>> No.21119042

you know he's still here right?

>> No.21119046

>>21119035
hmm may that be because you are quizfag?

>> No.21119050

i'm starting to think manual lookups > instant lookups for learning and having words stick better...
for manual lookups you're forced to
1. recall words you already know to get the right kanji, or
2. draw the kanji by hand which is review for radicals
3. interact with the new word for more than one second overall

>> No.21119052

>>21119005
thanks for the useless common knowledge

>> No.21119063

>shit OP
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>> No.21119070

*munches on さつまいも*

>> No.21119091

>>21118934
reminder djt is so bad they had to call in matt to beat the now de-throned quizmaster.

>> No.21119098

>>21119091
it was matt?

>> No.21119103

>>21119098
no it was me

>> No.21119107

>>21119098
yea he was worried about his identity being revealed by showing his full anki stats so who else would it be

>> No.21119110

>>21119091
shut up lacky like there isn't dozens of people that could of beat him lol he was lucky to last as long as he did

>> No.21119114

>>21118970
とうきょうことばもいいよ

でも

ほうげんももっといいよ

>> No.21119117

>>21119091
I thought quizmaster started on /djt/.
>>21119103
sensei...

>> No.21119118

So if 可 means "can" and 也 is an old way of saying "to be", then 可也 (かなり) literally means "can be"?

>> No.21119120

>>21119052
always glad to be of service

>> No.21119124

>>21119118
no because classically 可 meant 良い not "can"

https://kobun.weblio.jp/content/%E5%8F%AF

>> No.21119145

>>21119118
可也というと

だれかのなまえかな

よみかたややこしそうっておもう

>> No.21119196

>>21119117
allegedly but who's to say for sure

>> No.21119231

Am I right that 床 means both floor and bed, floor when read as ゆか and bed when read as とこ?
Is one of those super rare, or usually written in kana, or do I have to guess?

>> No.21119243

>>21119145
もっと漢字で書いてください

>> No.21119251

>>21119231
context nigga

>> No.21119257

>>21119231
yes. and I don't mean this in a rude way but this can be quickly verified with an online dictionary.

>> No.21119261

>>21119251
床に腰掛ける
what now faggot

>>21119257
dictionary doesn't say when one of the meanings is used 95% of the time, which is why i'm asking

>> No.21119263

>>21119243
あっ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9uSwKYzMMs

>> No.21119305

>>21119243
可也と云うと誰かの名前哉。読み方ややこしそうって惟う。

>> No.21119307
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21119307

>tfw taking Japanese classes starting this summer at uni
See ya later dekinais

>> No.21119311

>>21119261
>what now faggot
That's not context, that's just a sentence fragment
If the author is describing a room without a bed in it that would be unambiguous through context, for example

>> No.21119318

>>21119110
maybe in Matt-samas discord but not here

>> No.21119327

>>21119231
japs sleep on the floor, is why.

>> No.21119332

>>21119327
woah

>> No.21119352

>>21119110
>like there isn't dozens of people that could of beat him
>could of
learn english first.

also the guy didn't even come from djt he was invited and said himself he hadn't gone to djt in years. this place is full of eternal turbodekinais.

>> No.21119365

>>21119327
くつでいえにあがる

いずほわい

>> No.21119389

>>21119365
>いずほわい
damn u a trolling ass motherfucker

>> No.21119395

i've been gone for like a week wtf did i miss

>> No.21119401

>>21119352
esl? it's common as fuck to say it that way pleb

>> No.21119411

I'm browsing a thread about the bebop netflix thing on 2chan.net and saw this.

>ハンバーグ師匠
Do nips make fun of americans calling them burgers too? I really don't understand what else it could be.

>> No.21119420

>>21119411
>bebop netflix
oh shit thanks for the heads up

>> No.21119426

>>21119411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmqRW06VcAU
ever heard of google

>> No.21119440
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>>21119426
i'm going to be honest googling it genuinely did not come to mind.

>> No.21119448

>>21119426
ハンバーグ!

>> No.21119461

>we're obsessed with honor
>but we'll roast the fuck out of our closest allies daily

>> No.21119466

>>21119461
>all of Japan is one person
By the way, who the fuck are we quoting?

>> No.21119481

>>21119466
there is literally youtube channels dedicated to roasting the US bro and if you watch any youtube long enough you hear them take their shots at us

>> No.21119489

>>21119481
>its not a thing for any country to banter about other countries that are their close allies
>canadians never joke about the US
>Americans never joke about Britain
wtf is wrong with you?

>> No.21119499

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSHzI-t58X8STwqjfSzp47w/videos
I think 井上 alone has over 100 US roastie videoes, some are kind of funny tho lol

>> No.21119511

>>21119461
Good, the US sucks and deserves roasting. The US is not even a coherent country, it's a shopping mall full of overweight people with no ties to each other.

>> No.21119524

>>21119461
The USA is not allied with Japan. The USA occupies Japan. I hope Japan can throw off the yoke of American oppression.

>> No.21119533

>>21119524
>The USA occupies Japan.
Get a load of this guy.

>> No.21119548

>>21119524
I likewise hope the Japanese stop free-riding on American military spending on the region to avoid having an actual defense budget, thereby continually stimulating their national economy.

>> No.21119567
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21119567

ハンバーグ!!!

>> No.21119601

>>21119524
USA only occupies that island with the funny accent.

>> No.21119633

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74i3MqeyMZw

new Matt

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21119635

恋人つなぎ

>> No.21119669
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>>21119633
>not including native speakers from different parts of Japan as a control
詐欺

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21119715

>>21119633
remember to do your duty

>> No.21119729

>>21119401
i could care less about what's common, its a doggy dog world out there. for all intensive purposes it's wrong.

>> No.21119777

>>21119669
what's up with people saying different parts of japan have different accents so My horrible accent doesn't matter?
They have a consistent accent that shows where they are from.
A gaijin accent just shows you're uneducated.

>> No.21119782

How do you say "that [adjective]"? I've come across a need to say it like 10 times this past week.

>I didn't know you were THAT busy
>It's not THAT cold
>I'm not THAT hungry (I guess this would be a verb but still)

>> No.21119793

>>21119633
>Answer: No
I'm glad he puts his incorrect opinion in the description so I don't have to hear his voice.

>> No.21119804

>>21119777
do you think that dave specktor, whos in his video, would paid to MC and present events in japanese if the audience were cringing at his japanese pitch accent?

the idea is honestly laughable

>> No.21119813

>>21119782
そんなに

>> No.21119821

>>21119804
when I saw him in the video it really elevated my confidence desu lol

>> No.21119824

>>21119813
y'know that makes sense and I thought of that but second-guessed myself. Thanks

>> No.21119839
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Yoshi time to learn nihongo.

>> No.21119876

>>21119729
>i could care less
Looks like you need some english lessons yourself

>> No.21119889

>>21119352
>like there isn't dozens of people
like there aren't

You could have at least pointed out his actual ESL-tier mistake. You're both pretty shit at English lol

>> No.21119897

>>21119889
he quoted both mistakes. r u retarded?

>> No.21119909

Stop wasting your time trying to obtain perfect accent and become indistinguishable from native speakers. Literally no foreigner has managed that with English either.

>> No.21119920
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21119920

I found out recently the dictionary on macos tells you which 日本語のアクセントの型 category a word falls into. it looks really useful, but I can't find any good non-macos alternatives that do the same thing. anyone able to point me in the right direction?

>> No.21119923

>>21119889
A major portion of my life have been dedicated to studying japanese so I could care less bout your english-nazism.

>> No.21119953

>>21119909
After puberty it's either impossible or you'll get it naturally anyway, despite what Matt tries to say.

>> No.21120025

>>21119953
Impossible seems like a strong word... I think if a native japanese speaker tazered you at a low setting every time you got a pitch accent wrong, eventually you would learn

>> No.21120048

>>21119920
10ねんくらいすんでると

えいごのはくすうも

かぞえたくなるらしいよ

>> No.21120054

叮T

>> No.21120060

>>21120025
I really dont know if you can or not but if it is biologically impossible then youre just fucked and nothing will help

>> No.21120068

begun, the accent wars have

>> No.21120070

>starting to get burned out on anki
>if i take a break i'll be swamped with a gorillion reviews
what do

>> No.21120074

>>21119909
The kids at my school that went over to america for an exchange year came back with a pretty good accent (not perfect obv) where their accent was really lacking before. It looks like effort is enough to get it improved.

>> No.21120092

>>21120070
say fuck it and read for a while and immerse, you can if you turn off new words for a while it wont be too bad when you return

>> No.21120113

trainは

なんはく?

>> No.21120120

What does そんなこと mean exactly and why do I see it everywhere

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21120121

>>21118934
fake hair
fake hands
fake success

>> No.21120133

>reach about 1k words on core
>everything suddenly starts to become work or political related kanji's
all i'm seeing is variations of 会 and 社 and it's driving me nuts

>> No.21120136

>>21120070
It doesn't go away, soon it will cut into your reading because you'll try to get your reviews done before anything else and take most of the day to bring yourself to do it. Just quit anki, in a few months you'll be glad you did.

>> No.21120142

>>21120136
>quit
but i'm actually learning, and it's not like it's just kanji isolation, everything is used as an example in a sentence as well which helps

>> No.21120145

私には全く分かりません。

>> No.21120149

>>21120142
You'll learn more by reading more. Anki is only good if you actually enjoy it

>> No.21120154

>>21120149
i mean i tried reading yotsuba and i can understand maybe 30% of the kanji on it, so i'm not sure if i'm ready yet. and what's even harder than the kanji is the hiragana, because you don't know where one word begins and where it ends with grammar sometimes

>> No.21120172

ちょこたべたい

めっちゃたべたい

>> No.21120183

souda
jibun, ass wo tabetakatta

>> No.21120193

that feel when actually writing kanjis and meditating on their meaning help so much with memorization but takes too much time.

>> No.21120199

Help I still don't really understand the difference between に and へ. The former is more flexible while the latter is more specific? They're both location particles but the way Tae explains it doesn't make much sense.

>> No.21120206

>>21118993
listening to someone speak english poorly is subconsciously telling your brain something is wrong which can get annoying. it depends on the person. its the same in any language. reading with correct pitch will also improve your listening.

>> No.21120230

>>21120199
に and へ can both be used for location but に can also be used for time while へ can not.

>> No.21120248

>未来への扉

>> No.21120281

you guys are calm when the sun goes down

>> No.21120285

上ってるんだけどいま

>> No.21120289

enkou shojo wo sagasouka

>> No.21120290

All the retards who dont actually give a shit about learning Japanese leave once its time to go to bed thats why

>> No.21120298

茶わん

>> No.21120311

>>21120199
he is pretty much towards

>> No.21120319

いいだけにできないでいろう

>> No.21120325

>>21120311
It is e not he

>> No.21120334

>>21120325
You don't know japanese

>> No.21120349

>>21120334
Dont give people false information

>> No.21120356

yoshiwara he ikou

>> No.21120360

>>21120349
u sure u know what u say?

>> No.21120363

AはBが守る

does this mean A will protect B, or B will protect A?

>> No.21120376

>>21120363
As for A, B will protect

>> No.21120378

>>21120363
latter

>> No.21120438
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21120438

Todays animal is: 貂 (てん)

>> No.21120442

whats with the romanization elitism these last couple threads
u shit on gambare but u also shit on ha and now u shit on he
do u want the sound or do u want nihonsiki make up ur mind

>> No.21120444

>>21120442
You don't know japanese

>> No.21120445

>>21120298
はつおんおかしいよね

ちゃわんって

>> No.21120447

>>21120444
i keep tellin u that already so say what u really want to say bud

>> No.21120484

more respect for the zenging crew than yall afraid to state ur beliefs on nippongo phonetics

>> No.21120488

>>21119909
esl fags aren't the standard I wanna reach

>> No.21120566

>>21119876
woosh, retard

>> No.21120604

>>21120488
no matter what you think, you're not going to ever sound entirely native. A real native speaker will figure out something wrong with your accent within a minute of talking to you. Also they usually won't care and at most ask where you're from (as if it's not obvious if youre a white guy speaking Japanese)

>> No.21120611

>(as if it's not obvious if youre a white guy speaking Japanese)
What abotu white guys born and still living in japan? They should sound native as hell.

>> No.21120620

>>21120611
For the approximate dozen people where this might apply I'm sure it's true, and I'm sure they still get asked where theyre from.

>> No.21120659

I get all my input from little girl anime and manga desu wa

>> No.21120695

Are those cards the quizmaster makes good for increasing listening comprehension? I feel like I know a lot of words when I'm reading but I cannot hear them when I listen to anime.

>> No.21120705

>>21120695
no testing listening comprehension inside of Anki names it take stupid amounts of time

>> No.21120716 [DELETED] 

Why are images always deleted in DJT? Is the janny or mod easily triggered by "right wing memes" ? Pepe and wojack are deleted. Now OP's donald trump pic is deleted.

>> No.21120723

>>21120716
You don't belong here

>> No.21120731

does anyone else find writing kanji fun and therapeutic

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>>21120716
It's all part of adopting the cancerous chat style of never replying to people as well. Some people feel more elitist for not posting pictures in the same way. Nevertheless you should not post those retarded memes here either way.

>> No.21120751

Why does djt make fun of esls?

>> No.21120756

>>21120751
Because on this board the default assumption is that 95% of it's users are English natives. It's probably closer to 40% in reality.

>> No.21120799

>>21120756
Why would anyone assume that?
any board with flags is filled woth non english speaking flags. Why would anyone think it would be any different here?

>> No.21120838

>>21119715
Thanks almost forgot

>> No.21120914

>>21120751
You would think people trying to learn a second language would be a little more self aware, but you would be wrong.

>> No.21120970

>>21120751
I hate poor foreigners

>> No.21121043

>世界で一番硬い...
in this is the で needed? what does it do and can it be implied(in other words, not actually written)?

>> No.21121050
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21121050

What's a good english equivalent for チビ助?

>> No.21121070

>>21121050
miniature ... ? maybe?

>> No.21121086

>>21121043
It marks a place

>> No.21121095

>>21121043
I've seen 世界一 more often than any other combination.

>> No.21121110

>Open up first real NHK article after finishing every NHK Easy article from 2017 to the end of this winter
>Only 15 new words and most of them are shit I don't care about like the word for a house completely burning down
So this is what it feels like to notice a Level Up all at once.

Also why does the janitor keep deleting OP's image

>> No.21121146

>>21121050
I don't know about 助 but "chibi" is an extant loanword in the context of Japanese art and character designs.

>> No.21121156

minna genki ? lol

>> No.21121161

Damn shame there aren't more dictionaries in pdf form. I saw the Elementary School Student's Kanji Dictionary in the resources in the OP but I wanted a middle school one.

>> No.21121164

Thank fuck I finally decided to learn Japanese so I can read thought provoking kino like 俺の家が魔力スポットだった件~住んでいるだけで世界最強~

>>21121050
Pipsqueak?

>> No.21121174

>>21121164
I was gonna make fun of you for making fun of some random narou story you probably haven't read based on the title but then I noticed that the LN adaptation of it has incredibly horrible reviews.

>> No.21121178 [DELETED] 

>>21121110
I think it's neatt that there's a specific word for that at all. Also if OP has a shit image I usually report it.

>> No.21121207

>>21121174
No, I'm no stranger to shitty titles/premise, but OK executions. This is just straight up one of the worse things I've ever read. So it's only going to get a 2cour and a movie.

>> No.21121212

>>21121178
What was the image this time?

>> No.21121215

>>21121207
Jesus christ.

>> No.21121216

She's back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXyP5GeJFg

>> No.21121217

tromp

>> No.21121222

>>21121178
Yeah it's neat but it's not a word I care about until I internalize much more common words. I can just as easily say that a house burned down and I think most people would say that too, the single word is listed as a news word.

>> No.21121225

>>21121216
that thumbnail is so horrendous i cant get myself to even click the vid sorry

>> No.21121234

ok i caved and clicked it and lol dollys gone even further off the deep end what a surprise

>> No.21121238

>>21121216
She's right, not a single one of you fuckers told me a single thing from this video. The only fact you told me was わたしはゲイ

>> No.21121328

>>21119307
>Japanese classes
>5% of genki 1 done in a year

>> No.21121362

>>21119813
>>21119782
You should learn the nuance of it though. I've used it multiple times exactly how we use "that" in that way and have been corrected multiple times by Japanese people; its not always a 1:1 translatable word

>> No.21121390

>>21120120
literally it's "that thing" / "that kind of thing", but I've seen it used a lot like そんなことないよ meaning "it's not like that" or "that's not the case". I'm also assuming, though I'm not sure I've seen it used in this exact instance, that it can be used similarly to そういうこと which more loosely but naturally into English translates as "exactly" (literally "it's that kind of thing") when affirming what the other speaker(s) have said

>> No.21121433

>>21120363
Did you make this sentence yourself? I could he wrong, but 守る is a transitive verb, so if you want to say A will protect B, you would say AはBを守る, I don't think が works here. And if the sentence is natural I don't think it would be "A protects B"

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>>21118934
>file deleted
fucking hell, the jannies on this board are so easily triggered. did hiroshimoot recruit them from tumblr or something?

>> No.21121479

>>21119920
there's the nhk accent dictionary. i don't have the download link, but if you look in the archive you might find it.

>> No.21121520

>>21121492
i dont exactly disagree but if they are spewing bullshit instead of explaining actual japanese to u then the vids are bad and shouldnt be watched

basically its important 2 note the grammar series is the only thing of any value

>> No.21121532

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRG1tWQN6e8#t=288

>> No.21121585

this thread is a quarantine zone tho

>> No.21121620

>>21121557
that's a fair point, but her implication is that her treatment is better in ways that matter, which i do disagree with. the only purpose of conscious grammar instruction is to make input comprehensible, ultimately whether you learn "コーヒーが好きです" as "i like coffee" or "coffee make me like it" makes no more difference than what mnemonic you use to remember vocabulary or whatever.

>> No.21121646

>>21119633
>After surveying as many high-level L2 Japanese speakers as I could find
>video shows 5 people, + himself
great sample size there matto

>> No.21121647

>>21119920
I don't understand this chart. Is it saying there's technically two dimensions/values per pitch accent? I'm only familiar with 0-4 so this makes it more complicated.

>> No.21121653

>>21121620
yea but i dont think their audience is day ones theyre trying to help scrubs who are basically stuck

like i say ive never really hated the way they explained grammar except that its rudimentary and very ironically enough single track

i still think her grammar series does fine in helping make some things more comprehensible to ppl who are stuck

really its just all their opinion pieces about how to study or consume media or w/e u wanna call it that gives me aids

>> No.21121711

>>21121647
dam Ur a retarded ass mfer. it's just showing where the pitch drops with different length words. a [3] drops on the third syllable regardless of word length

>> No.21121803

>>21121801
i did but its explanation was very gay.

>> No.21121888

good

>> No.21121902

>>21121832
>>21121896
just watch the dolly vid thats way too much words for something so simple

>> No.21121949

remibnder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Whjjdc2DI#t=27

>> No.21122051

>>21121910
>帰ってよ
Go back

>って
basically a verbal quotation mark

That's how I see it.

>> No.21122086

>>21121785
as for job being hated like that, is somewhat problematic.

>> No.21122224

>>21122200
>Nobody means that pitch accent literally doesnt matter, just that you'll pick it up anyway. What actually doesnt matter is just general accent.
It's actually the other way around. If your accent sounds good in general then people won't even notice that your pitch accent sounds weird, unless they're the kind of person who would complain about "upspeak" if they knew English, and people like that don't matter.

>> No.21122272

>>21122203
>Who besides autistic matt even gives a fuck about pitch accent?
Which is funny because Matt still doesn't have the 五十音 properly mastered.

>> No.21122328

>>21122300
Because flaws are sometimes interesting. It's in your differences that some will come to love you. Gaijin accent is a pleb filter of sorts.

>> No.21122338

>>21122300
>natives naturally have an aversion to foreign accents
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=are+accents+attractive

>> No.21122350

>>21122338
do you think all accents are "attractive" or only a select few under select circumstances?

>> No.21122374

>>21122350
it's going to partially come down to how attractive you look. If you're ugly then you'll be even more fucked probably.

>> No.21122377

>>21122350
I read a story about some kid who had a horrible speech impediment and got made fun of in elementary school but then he moved and during middleschool and onwards he just pretended that it was an unspecified foreign accent and everyone loved him for it. It's not "a select few", it's how you spin it. If you're easy to understand and talk clearly when necessary, and you're not doing anything ridiculous like pronouncing "the brine" as "she bleenay" you're gonna be fine.

>> No.21122399

>>21122377
>I read a story
cool story bro.

>> No.21122419

>>21122300
its better to be judged and fit the judgment than be a foreigner and sound so shockingly japanese that they have an existential crisis

>> No.21122430

>>21122406
if some accents are attractive but most aren't then it makes your objection kinda meaningless.

>> No.21122453

>>21122430
>but most aren't
You're bringing in new info that needs to be cited for your argument to hold any weight, especially since it's already been seen multiple times that at least some accents are sexy.

>> No.21122454

>>21121743
no

>> No.21122455

>>21121234
I want more of the Mexican doll.

>> No.21122461

>>21122459
You're giving your opinion, others have stated experimental research.

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>>21122440

>> No.21122552

lmao

>> No.21122555

>>21122528
Basically this >>21122529
I also forget common words sometimes. I think the drop affected Broca's Area or something if I had to guess. May as well kill myself if it made learning another language impossible desu.

>> No.21122584

>>21122572
>eventually father told me to shut the fuck up and think before I spoke
nice of him

>> No.21122585

>>21122523
As a baby I rolled of the changing table because my mother was looking elsewhere and I was bored, she managed to catch me by my leg shortly before falling on the ground. I'm glad she did now ...

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>>21122572
At least you'll never be as bad as a Japanese kid learning English.

>> No.21122602

>>21122594
I think he was trying to quit smoking around that time but yeah it threw me into 6 years of spending most of my time in my head. At least I'm not tempted to permanently cripple my Japanese because of it!

>> No.21122605

>>21122572
>eventually father told me to shut the fuck up and think before I spoke
Asshole, that's abusive. I just talked a lot as a kid and was told to talk less, now I have crippling social anxiety and stutter. You're not alone, stay strong.

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>>21122605
>You're not alone, stay strong.
Uh I'm fine but thanks. I probably ended up better than I would have to be honest.

>> No.21122699

>get good at japanese
>find out I'm still bad

>> No.21122722

>>21119019
He isn't, he's just hasn't discovered the secret ancient Japanese art of nampa yet. Which is weird, considering how autistic and obsessed he is about Japanese.

>> No.21122733

>>21122203
Matt studied Chinese for a while. If you have an accent in Chinese, you will not be understood at best, and you'll be misunderstood or be seen as insulting at worst. He probably brought that thinking over to Japanese and pitch accent.

>> No.21122830

>>21122822
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSb5WbGe2UQ-vJqU3Vt9UNw/videos

>> No.21122854

>not knowing english has pitch accent too

>> No.21122860

>>21122854
give us an example

>> No.21122875

>>21122866
>>21122868
>matt was jamal all along

>> No.21122884

>>21122873
when foreigners make those mistakes it is a bit jarring/annoying. NOT SAYING it's everything, but it's a thing. it's very weird how much people hate pitch accent even when people who study pitch accent reiterate that it's not essential and repeat the same old platitudes.

>> No.21122892

>約束 yue1shu4 (verb) bind, restrain
wtf yakusoku means this in Chinese

>> No.21122941

>>21122455
mmm mmm, mmm mmm, OISHIII!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfY3-1ZK4S2BTQLDo_hVm4w

>> No.21122964

jesus fuck
https://twitter.com/Kinoko_Channel/status/1093683064822099968

>> No.21123080

>>21123065
ive done it for fun on a few choice titles just to lol

>> No.21123119

>>21122915
Oh, he'd been around for a while then before he took on his trip.
>>/jp/image/ZaZIpFVPBUzRm3WKtN76ZQ

When exactly did he start tripfagging, by the way? Was it just since a few days ago? For some reason Warosu's search doesn't seem to be working for names and tripcodes, and none of the other archives which archive /jp/ have search enabled.

>>21122909
>matt has a tutorial on it
Which tripfag-kun was apparently none too happy about w: >>20905197
>I am definitely the first person who started recording audio using ShareX for Anki and I shared the idea here, which Matt took and slapped his own dumbass sentence mining shit on.

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>>21121178
>Also if OP has a shit image I usually report it.
faggot

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>>21121212
Even if the butthurt tumblrina janny deletes the OP image, you can still find it in the archive:
>>/jp/thread/21118934
>>/jp/thread/21092102

>> No.21123173

>>21123166
https://youtu.be/9y8Ktrnrc5o

>> No.21123216

>>21123200
once a month it hits someone that dolly is better than them

>> No.21123276

https://twitter.com/brimandgrind/status/1113675371054944256
huh weird. i thought no one cared.

>> No.21123306

>natives notice accents
oh no shit shit shit this proves i have to get nativelike pitch accent or theyll laugh at me
what is wrong with u desperate people lol

>> No.21123334

>>21123276
that bald bearded dude is a retard but basically dogen said it completely accurately in his post

"It’s very important for people who want to improve their pronunciation"

>> No.21123336

But isn't speaking in katakana and having wrong pitch accent the same thing?

>> No.21123337

>>21123316
but if i dont ill permanently crIPPLE myself and then people might be able to tell im not a native how could i live

>> No.21123353

>fucking hilarious how people cant string a single sentence together think that they need to focus on pitch accent
dude who in the world is arguing this.

>> No.21123357

>>21123336
idk dude u tell me i dont have the page handy

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1DSBJRSK2ai

>> No.21123358

>>21123353
u havent been here long have u

>> No.21123374

口紅s

>> No.21123386

>>21123361
its cool he gets to be racist af

>> No.21123393

>>21123361
>now watch this video of various foreign katakana accents which is how 95% of foreigners actually speak
None of those are genuine foreign accent though. He is trying to force his accent to resemble another country while a foreigner would try to imitate japanese

>> No.21123396

>>21123361
that 1st guy is actually cringe inducingly good

>> No.21123430

also look at the comments on the first dudes video. u dont see a single bitter nip in the comment saying "lmao!! nice pitch accent!!"

meanwhile look at this video comments of a japanese guy who actually does speak all janky fucked up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkNrAIqDlIU

literally everyone is making comments about his 口癖 so which do u think is more important ?

>> No.21123432

>>21123407
I honestly don't, I was just interested to know the difference with katakana speech
I'll probably never visit japan and even if I do, I won't be staying more than 2 weeks, so I couldn't care less how I sound

I do plan on participating in various japanese communities like 5chan sometime though.

>> No.21123448

>>21123430
>did someone count how many times he said やっぱり
top kek

>> No.21123462

>>21123430
who are you trying to convince. there is not a single soul in the world who disagrees with you.

>> No.21123465

>>21123435
just sliding the pitch down a few semitones isnt enough to get it there unfortunately lol

>> No.21123473

>>21123462
There's an entire cult out there that firmly believes you shouldn't speak before your third year or you'll cripple your nihongeau.

>> No.21123484

>>21123462
read the last thread, there were tons of idiots arguing otherwise

>> No.21123485

If no one cares about how a foreigner (except indians) sounds like in their country, why would it be any different with japanese people?

>> No.21123496

>>21123473
niheaungeaux

>> No.21123501

people who became reasonably good at japanese

khatz: got divorced, withdrew from the world
matt: miserable asshole, hates himself and his life
dolly: absolutely batshit insane

is the japanese language like some sort of mind virus that destroys people?

>> No.21123552

>>21123501
moogy: read lots of porn for a few years

>> No.21123596

>>21123550
He is 100% still here just without his trip. He kept saying shit yesterday like "maybe tripfag wasnt so bad" and shit like that. But you are right it is only a matter of time before it's back on

>> No.21123597

>>21123531
dogens prob better off than those three and more socially adapted but u can tell hes fuckin weird
agree with the rest though in fact the cause is the youtubin not the nihongoin
>>21123552
based

>> No.21123629

>>21123620
>>21123623
Ah i see thanks.

>> No.21123647

>>21123633
Oh hey 団長 it's me, Barganzo. I'm interested in talking to you a bit more, is there somewhere I could do that? I noticed the discord link is gone

>> No.21123662

>>21123647
https://discord.gg/Cc7D6cw
I'm still in this chat. Though I'll probably keep browsing the threads.

>> No.21123664

>>21123647
he posted his discord lD you can just add him & keep out this thread u pair of nerds

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>dolly

>> No.21123668
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>>21123633
>there is other places to talk to people serious about learning Japanese with an earnest interest in Japanese media.
Imagine this mentally ill individual inviting random reddit pinoys to quiz on the "other better places" and getting kicked within 30 minutes

>> No.21123669

>>21123550
Bruh you are wrong or there are maybe 2 quiz tards. The chink that got banned is the second one. Browse the discord for a bit you will know what i'm talking bout . The original quiztard is still there and pipes from time to time

>> No.21123685

Absolute beginner here, only just finished memorizing Hirigana and Katakana. Does learning strokes matter at all? I really just want to read and speak japanese.

>> No.21123691

>>21123685
dont bother even learning to write then

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>when you get recommended a shitty video you won't watch but you suddenly realize what the majin means after all these years

>> No.21123693

absolute beginner here

わ vs が whats difference ?

>> No.21123696

>>21123693
read guide dumbass

>> No.21123700

>>21123473
they believe that you'll sound worse if you speak early. that doesn't mean they think japanese will hate you or something for not having perfect pitch accent. the extrapolations being made itt are manic.

>> No.21123702

わたしはゲイ

>> No.21123704

>>21123693
wa vs ga right?

>> No.21123705

>>21123693
one is a particle

>> No.21123706

absolute beginner here
え vs に whats difference ?

>> No.21123709

がたしわゲイ

>> No.21123715

わたくしはじゃまる

>> No.21123716

absolute beginner here

i noticed ur all shit at japanese who wants to join my discord kanji quiz ?

>> No.21123720

>>21123669
I have no idea what you're talking about, whoever is "the other quizmaster" is irrelevant. The sperg shitting up the threads is the one I mentioned and any other personality involved stems from his stunt

>> No.21123727

>>21123705
は, が, and わ are all particles you noob

>> No.21123734

I'm going to get fluent in Japanese with 98% of my media being romantic comedies, see ya guys l8r lol

>> No.21123739

>>21123720
the original quizmaster is the guy with sharex method. THe chink is the second one

>> No.21123763

>>21123633
>The set of instructions that I once wrote was already posted
Can you re-up the videos you posted to mixtape.moe which are linked in that instructions image?

Mixtape suspended its service a few days ago so those vids are gone forever.

>> No.21123779

>>21123739
what chink?

>> No.21123783

>>21121532

>> No.21123784

>>21123739
i thought they were different but now i think he didnt gain his confidence until months after the sharex method reveal

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>>21123763
I honestly don't know which videos those are anymore, it's been a few months since I posted that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnkRuFtsqX4
You can see me making one card here. I think it should be possible to figure everything out together with the instructions. There are also videos of a ton of card on that channel so you can see how I style them.

>> No.21123810

>>21123779
That one that got banned

>> No.21123832

>>21123810
the person who got banned from d*scord is the same person who posts sharex, the tripfag, the quizmaster. it's the same person.

>> No.21123836

>>21123800
>https://youtu.be/Io3Qk8FYiFM
>watching old hags

>> No.21123840

>>21123623
This is pretty cool.
https://tinyapps.org/screenshots/capture2text-jglossator.mp4

>> No.21124013

RTK or KKLC or KD?

Currently trying KKLC but i'm confused af

>> No.21124020

https://streamable.com/3kh3u

>> No.21124055

so-do a-to onraintte
omosiroiwa

>> No.21124073

don't trust a man who likes sword art online

>> No.21124077

Wasted all my day with only 1-2 h reading while i could go 6+. SUPER MAD

>> No.21124083

>>21122941
ew what the FUCK is this

>> No.21124117

>>21122995
>she

>> No.21124129

dolly do-jins when ?

>> No.21124140

newfags dolly is a Mexican man that brings out cumcovered dolls infront of coconut sellers and films then while being watched.

>> No.21124178

>>21124140
no mexican man talks in a british~ accent

>> No.21124193

>spent the whole week downloading vns, getting lucky with seeders on almost dead torrents
>hard drive decides to shit itself
>takes down my anki deck and everything else.
Back to the drawing board, I guess...

>> No.21124200

u dont need multiple vns u just need 1

all in all i think that was the cosmos trying to help u learn japanese

just pick 1 hentai game and go for it dude

>> No.21124201

>>21124020
>I don't like Sword Art Online.
Nuke has good taste.

>> No.21124203

>>21124193
F

>>21124200
Except if the VN you downloaded turns out to be shit and you hate reading it, you then have to wait several hours or days depending on how bad the situation is to download a new one.

>> No.21124208

>>21124178
i doh

>> No.21124240

>>21124200
u play one at a time but i support stocking up cuz some vn downloads are fleeting
>>21124203
how often do u fuck up

>> No.21124276

>>21124013
None of them. Don't waste your time.

>> No.21124309

>>21123734
i also want to do this, which are you watching?

>> No.21124333

dert boyz

>> No.21124336

>>21123734
Don't just do the comedies do the fucked up classic 恋人よ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjUCKHjtMV0
cute lead too

>> No.21124395

kohh sounds like a suburban nuclear family mom when he speaks BOYS

>> No.21124402
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21124402

Is there a way to watch Japanese TV in Europe (Germany)?
Free sites suck, the online offers I found are way too expensive.

>> No.21124407

the answer is now the same as its been for like a decade

pay for some stupid chinese restreamer

>> No.21124429

>>21124407
learn to use replies

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP8T8OdJlWc

It's time to put your reputation where your mouth is and debate the world's greatest learner of Japanese.

>> No.21124437

learn to suck my deeyock fagboy

>> No.21124456

im stuck in intermediate hell

>> No.21124460

>>21124433
give me a google account and ill ask him str8 up to just prove to every1 right then and there that he knows japanese

>> No.21124466

>>21124460
voice chat discord link in stream description
yo ntr u might be able to spit a couple lines before he bans u for showin him up

>> No.21124469

>>21124462
m8

>> No.21124473

Im reading a manga for the first time in jp and I really only understand like maybe 20% of what is being said with checking the grammar guide a bunch and trying to look up words only when I just dont understand anything in a sentence. Then when I read a page I read it in English to see how well I really got the meaning. Is this a good way of doing it or should I be looking up more words? Or should I just keep doing anki some more and wait until I can understand more words.

>> No.21124475

>>21124433
must suck to be a content creator whose livelihood is at odds with the message you put out
ajatters shouldn't spend precious time watching his eigode videos

>> No.21124486

>>21124473
keep reading bro the magic will start happening after only a few dozen hours reading

>> No.21124508

>>21124473
looking up words only when u understand nothing in a sentence is the opposite of what u want
it helps the most when that lookup makes u go oh thats what theyre sayin
u can skip it if ur pretty confident in ur guess but if u dont have a guess at all ur not gettin much from it

>> No.21124511

>>21124462
the life and times of yuuki reel was the real shit dude i remember bein sad all day back when that was a current anime i dont blame u

>> No.21124512

>>21124473
what are u readin?
try something yasashii like ryuu no kintama or dattebayo kid

>> No.21124515

>>21124433
where is the fkn quizmaster when we need him..

>> No.21124526

>>21124511
it fucking killed me dude, i cant hold it back when it's family death stuff. if i had siblings i'd probably go catatonic by the end of the last episode

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>>21124526
its ok dude just remember japans fuckin horrible

>> No.21124590

>>21124526
watch "Departures" the live action jp movie its gr8

>> No.21124615

Does anyone have matt's newest Q&A?

>> No.21124635

more like q&gay

>> No.21124637

Im so fucking tired of hearing about stupid gay pitch accent shut up

>> No.21124642

stop making bad arguments against learning it then

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virgin yomichan vs chad rikaikun

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>>21124615
Sorry for the delay. Unfortunately this will probably be the last one I'll post here as I unsubscribed to his patreon recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=0BKlU_qkwzs
00:32 - Have you considered becoming a translator?
10:52 - Should I limit how many sentences I mine from a single source?
12:49 - Matt's current take on each of Krashen's 5 hypotheses
42:23 - How many water bottles do you go through in a day?
42:38 - How do I stay in the moment while listening?
46:24 - Overall Anki setup?
48:03 - How much reading is required to counteract not SRSing?
1:02:18 - Why is Japanese pitch accent harder than Mandarin tones?
1:21:08 - Matt's experience with pitch accent
1:31:25 - Did you film your April Fools video in one take?

>> No.21124658

i've given up on understanding why you guys care about this matt guy, it's beyond my comprehension

>> No.21124661

the last timestamp there is the best and funniest one also say it aint so no more weekly matt updates so sad to see u go

>> No.21124665

>>21124658
because he's a proven master

>> No.21124666

>>21124653
gambare with ur future nihongo career u have my support

>> No.21124668

CALVINS BACK

>> No.21124669

matt is dumb

>> No.21124673

>>21124666
dang dude most ppl in here werent even born yet that refs too old or did it make a resurgence somewhere recently

>> No.21124675

>>21124668
proof

>> No.21124677

chinese a best

>> No.21124681

>>21124668
what language
>>21124673
sorry to say that was from the heart i dont know what ur talkin about

>> No.21124695

>didn't know what the fucking て form of words meant in most cases ("and") until like 5 months in
KILL ME

>> No.21124699

sup djt
new dud here
who dis matt guy and why dos he hv hentai on the walls

>> No.21124703

bless calvins heart

>>21124699
its not hentai its manga comics like dragonballz.

>> No.21124711

>>21124651
what's the difference

>> No.21124716

>>21124699
it would actually be cooler if it was hentai

>> No.21124722

>>21124711
It's a bit faster and it registers the verb forms a bit better

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Why does Calvin keep talking to Matt despite Matt constantly putting him down? He deserves better.

>> No.21124727

did he quit chinese or is he just asking about japanese purely out of curiosity

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who had money on karbin goin back to nihongo its time to rake in

>> No.21124733

CARUBIN IS BACK FAITH IN HUMANITY RESTORED HOLY MOLLY

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calvin is a fuckin mess

>> No.21124745

>>21124309
Good Morning Call
Itazura na Kiss Love in Tokyo 2013
i"s
Kimi wa Petto 2017
Denei Shoujo Video Girl Ai
Denei Shoujo Video Girl Mai
49
Hana Yori Dango
Switched
Okaasan Musume o Yamete Ii Desu ka
My Little Lover
Love and Hong Kong
Virgins! Back to High School
>>21124245

>> No.21124750

>>21124745
holy shit what the fuck is ur problem

>> No.21124755

>>21124193
>takes down my anki deck and everything else.
Nick lost his deck and still got good, he made up for it by 9001x his immersion while slowly building up his deck again

>> No.21124765

What are some examples of easy and entertaining stories to read on Aozora Bunko? It's nice to revisit some of the books I read as a kid, like Alice's Adventures in Wonderland or The Little Prince, but I'd like to go through something new too.

>> No.21124767

>>21124653
Matt pre-charges his patreons (ie you get charged as soon as you sub, unlike Khatz where he charges you on the next 1st of the month), so if he releases another Q&A within this month, you'll still have access to it even if you unsubbed today (because you already paid on the 1st of April, for the whole month of April).

>> No.21124768

Someone please post jamals hentai chart thanks

>> No.21124786
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>>21124768

>> No.21124790

>>21124786
are u gonna step up sometime cuz ur tryin but ur missin

>> No.21124803

>>21124790
Nah if I put in any effort that would ruin the point, it's all to show how easy it is to ruin something and make people remember to ask for the original. Someone edited this almost-ok chart https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/cor/gazou/vn4.jpg and made it absolutely horrible and the modified version turned into the only one that got posted and I'm never gonna let that happen again.

>> No.21124820

i never realy had a problem with ne of ur edits honestly cuz even in the case of that 1 thats 2 games not on the chart and maybe som1 will want to play those and thats fine w. me

>> No.21124832

are there any VNs someone could recommend which aren't porn?

>> No.21124834

I wouldn't be able to handle it if someone played actual kusoge because I put it on there so that's something. It's just supposed to be visually appalling.

>> No.21124837

>>21124832
hanahira

>> No.21124852

>>21124803
there was already a lower effort ruined version that did a better job from the man himself
why are u holdin a grudge
>>21124832
no

>> No.21124856

>>21124852
I just want people to play good games, man.

>> No.21124857

someone please debate matt and show everyone that hes a dekinai

>> No.21124858

post screamo bangers

>> No.21124859
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i had to think for a minute and then i went oh yea lol

>> No.21124861

>>21124832
all vns are porn

>> No.21124866

>>21124858
i got u dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NueceQ3u0A

>> No.21124873

>>21124781
I just wanted it on my phone too thanks

>> No.21124875

>>21124873
i dont wnana be on ur phone delete it now

>> No.21124876

>>21124866
itumo arigatou gochaimasu

>> No.21124880

>>21124861
maybe i should just play the ones for girls since i'm not gay so it isn't porn

>> No.21124881

>>21124875
Ok, i respect that

>> No.21124896

the one time matt offers to debate us, nobody shows up. 面白い

>> No.21124903

>>21124896
how do you debate him

>> No.21124911

>>21124903
go to the livestream on his channel and click on the discord link in the description

>> No.21124914

honestly i thought about it but when i saw the stream he actually has every1 muted and im not waiting in a queue if i cant just pop in and start goin all abare theres no point

>> No.21124927

>>21124914
the point is being able to debate him, you're just being a wuss

>> No.21124931

i dont debate in the 1st place i dictate

>> No.21124933

"khatz lied to you bro. he lied himself too"

>> No.21124936

>>21124896
If you're so desperate to get eceleb attention go ahead no ones stopping you.

>> No.21124940

Make your name interesting on the discord and he'll prioritize you.

>> No.21124957

>>21124876
btw heres 1 more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlvRhB_tKXk

>> No.21124961
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21124961

彼女の家は川の向こう側にある。

>> No.21124967

遭難ですか

>> No.21124973

wowzers tfw u thought u were original and funny and u put it in google and its fuckin already been done : (

>> No.21125039
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>>21124832
in the interest of >>21124856
now there are no excuses

>> No.21125050
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21125050

Is there anything more useless than this?

>> No.21125054

彼女はいつも遭難します

>> No.21125059

>>21125039
u did a good job triggering me

do not read console cross channel just delete it off the chart altogether

>> No.21125062

>>21124957
Doesn't sound like little girls.

>> No.21125063

did calvin really go back to japanese ur fucking joking

>> No.21125065

>>21125050
tits on a bull ?

>> No.21125067
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21125067

>>21125050

>> No.21125070

>>21125063
i think at this point we shouldnt say whether calvins studying japanese or chinese we should just say calvin is bein calvin

>> No.21125075
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>>21125050
used up sluts

>> No.21125076

>>21125059
is that the worst offender i was gonna remove everything with a sfw version but had to make someone mad
if ur not readin eroge ur already fuckin up so i left em with choices

>> No.21125089

'ello what are we mad at today?

>> No.21125093

>>21125076
its prolly the worst offender but konakana ios def made the bulging anime forehead vein thing happen to me irl not cuz i know anything about it just the fact its ios

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heres one for someone who could still be saved by the grace of eroge someday and doesnt want to ruin em

>> No.21125122

>ぽりぽりと片手で尻をかきながら(!)シスターは言った。

>尻をかき
??

>> No.21125127
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>>21125089
ドランプ

>> No.21125131

What's a good alternative to tae kim's grammar guide?

>> No.21125134

>>21125122
掻く dude

>> No.21125135

cure dolly

>> No.21125137

>>21125131
immersing and acquiring grammar naturally

>> No.21125139

>>21125122
ぼりぼり

>> No.21125142

>>21125131
asking here

>> No.21125143

>>21125131
ass食べり

>> No.21125148

>>21125131
>genki

>> No.21125173

>>21125131
unironically sakubi (after reading https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/anon/alternativeguide.html )

>> No.21125179

>>21125131
>What's a good alternative to tae kim's grammar guide?
>>21125135
>>21123667

>> No.21125199

>>21120438
Hes cute

>> No.21125202

>>21125179
why do you want an alternative when it has all the essential grammar explained pretty clearly. you're doing "grammar study" and getting frustrated when you don't remember rules or something, right?

>> No.21125206 [DELETED] 

test

>> No.21125208

wtf is up with the kanji 甭, the chinks literally just put 不 (bu4) on top of 用 (yong4) and decided to start reading it as [beng2]

>> No.21125216

get ur nakagunigo outta here

>> No.21125239

>>21125216
Stop using our written symbols first you island ape lover

>> No.21125250

>>21125239
chinks don't even use real kanji anymore lol they use the discount kanji

>> No.21125256

>>21125239
>our
they gave em up already for ugly "simplified" shit

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>>21125239
It's not like Chinese characters are some brilliant invention. They're just an evolved form of the slant eyed people's common caveman ancestors' bone carvings and cave drawings.

>> No.21125288

>>21125250
>>21125256
The Japanese use 364 discount kanji (not even counting the extended shinjitai there). Only island chinks (Taiwanese) and river delta chinks (Hong Kongers) use real kanji
>>21125280
At least the slanties were able to preserve their writing system despite Mongols, Manchus, Huns, and yuros invading them several times, unlike the ancient Egyptians who lost them after 1 Arab invasion lmao

>> No.21125302

>>21125288
are u comparing shinjitai to chinas disaster

>> No.21125306

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/blog/2005/10/02/like/

finally i can stop fucking spending 5 minutes figuring out what nanka means in random spots of sentences.

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>>21125280
I like that third version.

>> No.21125312

赤い!赤い!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=038XbIVr69E

>> No.21125321

>望遠鏡
>bou-en-kyou
>mang-won-kyuhng
>wang4-yuan3-jing4
WOAH

>> No.21125327

>>21125302
Yes, there was literally no legit sane reason to simplify any of the shinjitai (especially 國 and 團), all traditional kanji are easy as fuck after RTK

>> No.21125329
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21125329

Daily reminder that you'll be fluent one day unless you die early due to せんずり過剰

>>21125199
Should have posted an living one now that I think about it. This might mess with your retention if you see stuffed animals instead.

>> No.21125338

What book should I read that's on the DJT library?

>> No.21125356

>>21125321
>望遠鏡
>bou-en-kyou
>bark bark bark bark
>ching chong ding dong
fixed that for you

>> No.21125357

>>21125338
whichever u want dude what am i ur mom lol

>> No.21125359

>>21125338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMx9DGl9Y0

>> No.21125361

Novels > light novels > vn > anime > manga

Is this correct when sorting by difficulty?

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>>21125216
>中国語
>nakagunigo

>> No.21125370

>>21125361
there's variation in every medium. trying to sort them as a whole into levels of difficulty like this is inherently retarded.

>> No.21125374

>>21125356
Lol go wave the rising sun flag and screech into a megaphone somewhere else faggot

>> No.21125376

>>21125361
Anime shouldn't be in there.
In my experience it's more like
Novels = LN = VN > Manga

>> No.21125378

>>21125361
There is basically no difference between novels and light novels. VNs are generally "harder" than normal novels because they're very long.

There's way, way more difference within mediums than between them.

>> No.21125380

dont all take the shitty bait at once

>> No.21125382

>>21124653
>12:49 - Matt's current take on each of Krashen's 5 hypotheses

Really? Whatever else may be true about Matt I very much doubt he has more than a superficial familiarity with the academic literature in linguistics, and he certainly is nowhere near able to conduct his own research. Why would anyone care what he thinks about Krashen's work?

>> No.21125385

>>21125365
shit i meant nakagunigatari

>> No.21125388

>>21125382
after listening to some of this live discord talk with randoms i actually realized every1 more than 10 years younger than me is even more retarded than i thought

>> No.21125395

>>21125380
You can click the numbers on a post to reply to people in case you didn't know. You should read the FAQ. There's a lot of useful information about how to use 4channel's functions on there.

>> No.21125398

>>21125374
(^O^)/[ 旭日 ]

>> No.21125405

>>21125365
it's correctly written as 虫国, get your kanji right

>> No.21125406

dont fuckin @ me w. ur retarded shit

>> No.21125407

>>21124653
>I unsubscribed to his patreon recently.
How come? What made you subscribe in the first place?

>> No.21125408

Tbh language learning made me distrust all of acamedia and science

>> No.21125411

>>21125382
anyone native vetted is a living embodiment of academic research

>> No.21125412

I kinda miss quizmasterfag.
The last thread was far better than this shitposting.

>> No.21125415

What books have you enjoyed reading that are on DJT's library?

>> No.21125417

>>21125415
>>21125359

>> No.21125425

who forgot about this classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJwUhA4xZs

>> No.21125426

>>21125415
we got a big list of ero and non ero ge recs thats all ur gettin
be in charge of ur own destiny

>> No.21125437

>>21125405
And Japan is correctly written as 日笨, amirite

>> No.21125438

>>21125426
The path I walk leads me to the same type of stuff. Destiny is shaped by the people I meet throughout life, and those experiences thus shape my character and interests. No one is wholly in charge of their own fate.
So what's your favorite book on the DJT library?

>> No.21125442

books are for fuckin squares

if u dont play hentai games dont @ me

>> No.21125450

OH FUCK. I didn't realize djt.netlify and itazura neko have two completely different book selections!

>>21125442
I don't play hentai games.

>> No.21125452

>>21125442
i also don't play hentai games

>> No.21125456

can u just play some ? they r ftw

>> No.21125457

no

>> No.21125459

what kind of poor fucker wants to learn nihongo and is afraid of a little hentie

>> No.21125462

Wait are there any hentai novels? Will they get through customs if I order one?

>> No.21125465

>>21125456
I tried setting up the first Rance game but it didn't work because I don't know how to mount the disc or whatever. Hentai games in general are just too much of a hassle just to fap to. I prefer just going on exhentai and reading some random doujin.

>> No.21125466

just not interested in it simple as

>> No.21125468

>>21125382
what people actually accomplish (matt) is more important than what some deranged jew theorized about

>> No.21125474

why, Japan




>> No.21125476

>>21125462
If you live in a first world country yes

>> No.21125477

>>21125468
matt just put other peoples theories to the test and didn't really accomplish anything

>> No.21125482

>>21125465
>just to fap to
no u fuckin read it its good shit
u just get a little gohobi from time to time
sometimes u laugh more than u fap but no prob either way then its back to the compelling plot

>> No.21125484

>>21125450
>itazura neko
Does it have a way to download all the HTML versions of its books like netlify has?

>> No.21125497

>>21125484
Unfortunately, no way that I can find. But it's not too bad, reading on your computer is fine if you switch it to night mode. A lot easier to look up words too.

>>21125482
I hardly believe that. I'll still try Rance if I can ever get it to run.

>> No.21125512

Matt is unironically more autistic than the doll guy.

>> No.21125514

I don't know how you guys do it but most nukige are too irresistible to no shigoku to them. This means I can only clear 2-3 scenes or chapters per day.

>> No.21125528

>>21125514
well theres ur problem just get some fuckin plotge might i recommend some good nakige to utuge

>> No.21125554

>>21125528
I tried installing fate state and steins gate before but I never got the crack installed correctly.

>> No.21125566
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Can anyone help me get ITHVNR working on wine?

The program itself will run, and I can hook VNs with it. The problem is that ITH won't detect new lines properly so they never get copied to the clipboard... at least I think that's what's wrong since each new line of text appears on the exact same line as the last one.

I'm pretty sure the problem has nothing to do with ITH being unable to copy text to the clipboard or anything like that since highlighting text with my mouse causes it to be automatically copied without issue.

>> No.21125592

>>21125566
Try textractor/nexthooker.

>> No.21125593

>>21125474
now look up how many kanji there are for さかずき

>> No.21125595

>>21125593
now look up how many there are for ほととぎす

>> No.21125599

>>21125595
jesus, alright you win

>> No.21125601

不愛日本小姐
我愛台妹
萬萬歲

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>>21125592
holy shit it fucking works i can finally play vns in wine. at last i'm free of the restriction of only playing 800x600 shit from 10 years ago in virtualbox.

thanks a lot m8

>> No.21125636

>>21125425
Virgin Panda chink VS CHAD CAVE MAN

>> No.21125706

today's word
性風俗関連特殊営業

>> No.21125726
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21125726

keep it more relevant
todays nihongo word of the day
がっつり
example sentence for u all

>> No.21125754

>>21125726
what kind of masturbation is this one

>> No.21125773

You’re both wrong. Here’s the expression of the day:
一日為師終身為父

>> No.21125786

>>21125754
がっつり

>> No.21125819

きょうは

せんきょ

はままつしちょうせんきょだって

しちょうなりたい?

>> No.21125881

>>21125856
ガールズラブをしますか?

>> No.21125910

>会陰
ok...

>> No.21125977

>>21124767
people on patreon precharge since assholes kept signing up, download or get all the material, then canceled before the end of the month. it's the same reason audible.com took down it's "download everything" model.

however, please continue bitching about not getting shit for free that others pay for.

>> No.21126002

>>21125977
sounds to me like youre the one gettin worked up not him

>> No.21126027

あたしがいつか

しちょうになったら

ごうかんをごうほうかします

えろどうじんみたいなせかいをつくります

>> No.21126031

>>21126002
Nah. It's easy enough to find unlisted videos. Really, there's not much you get from Matt's patreon unless you want to read the circlejerk going on in his discord.

>> No.21126033

When japanese makes sense: 十二分

>> No.21126035

>>21126027
私のたわごとをファックしてください

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>>21126027
殺しと強盗も合法化してください。というか、法自体を排除してくさだい。弱肉強食は世界の掟。この法則を逆らった罪を贖う術はない。現在のところ世界は弱者と腐敗に溢れている。人間は退化したと言っても良いかもしれない。自然の掟に戻るのはせめての償いだ。ありがとう2u。

>> No.21126163

>>21121624
Little Witch acadmia does

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あたしがしちょうになったら

ぎゅうにゅうをやすくするかわりに、おさけをたかくします

はままつまつりをはんがくにして

さくらぎまつりをつくります

>> No.21126200

>>21125977
artificial scarcity for online content is pretty cringey tho

>> No.21126218

>>21125977
>people on patreon precharge since assholes kept signing up, download or get all the material, then canceled before the end of the month

i mean i did that for a futa animator because there was really no extra content worth paying for at the lowest tier

>> No.21126235

>>21126184
そりゃ面白い!頑張れ
貴様の前途を期待するぞ
この俺様の応援を得て、世界は貴様の奴隷同列だ!好きにしろ!

>> No.21126245

>>21125977
Lol. Someone please upload the tango decks already.

>> No.21126271

>>21126235
あ。。。あのな、あのんさん
子供の前に立ってあんな風に叫んでいますとお回りさんが来ます
早く逃げてください

>> No.21126282

>>21126188
This is clearly an 悪目

>> No.21126327
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21126327

>>21126235
上手

>> No.21126330

>>21126245
They've been uploaded. Nuke just shares the link to anyone that bought the books for them.

>> No.21126393

>>21126330
Lol, the deck must be really good if everyone who bought it is a stuck up moralfaggot about sharing it

>> No.21126400

>導彈 [dao3dan4]
>literally "guided bullet"
>(noun) missile
WOAH

>> No.21126413

>>21126393

upvote

>> No.21126415

>>21126400
Much better than the gay japanese katakana (more like gaytagayna amirite)
>ミサイル
>mee-sai-rooh ("missile")
nah boring as fuck
They could have just imported the Chinese word for it from Taiwan and slapped on an onyomi reading
>導弾
>dou-dan
Now, that's more like it, more authentic and Northeast Asian

>> No.21126421

>>21126415
>authentic
what did he mean by this

>> No.21126460

>>21126421
It's more in-line with traditional Japanese vocabulary
All of the nu-engrish katakana bs words are really annoying

>> No.21126471

>>21126415
thats like saying instead of calling sushi sushi americans should have called it RolyPolySeaweedGonzolli just because they didn't want to use an imported word

>> No.21126537

>>21126400
The Chinese really know what they’re doing when it comes to foreign concepts... usually. The main exceptions are 麦克风, and arguably 黑客. I include 黑客 because there’s usually some dumb westerner that’ll remark on how cool the literal meaning is (“black guest”) even though the sole reason it’s used is because it’s a transliteration of “hacker”.

>> No.21126542

>>21126460
The virgin アメリカ
The chad 米国

>> No.21126555

>>21126542
The virgin イギリス
The chad 英国

>> No.21126561

>>21126471
It'd be better if Japanese slapped on onyomi on Taiwan/ROC's Chinese words for Western ideas/things instead of Engrishi-katanakanizing them

>> No.21126572

>>21126555
The chad 豪州
The virgin 濠太剌利
The 童貞 オーストラリア

>> No.21126573

>>21126537
In Chinese that's okay, those words are the minority (3% at best), unlike Japanese with their tryhard obsession with transliterating dumb Anglo words into nu-katakana. They should go back to the golden Meiji era days even for just wasei kango desu

>> No.21126577

>>21126572
>removing the double water combo
濠洲

>> No.21126578

We DCT now

>> No.21126584

>>21126578
Katakana sucks ass especially when proper kanji words can be imported from Taiwan, deal with it waito-kun

>> No.21126591

>>21126572
Those two-character words for place names are just perfect, definitely better than ateji multisyllable transliterations, even if the latter are still in kanji

>> No.21126592

>>21126573
Apparently during the Tang Dynasty, the Chinese were almost that bad though. The sheer volume of Buddhist terms that got their own made-up characters that relied on the phonetic component of the character to be pronounceable...

Also the existence of 祂 REALLY pisses me off.

>> No.21126606

我不愛中國小姐
我愛台妹
萬萬歲
你的檳榔2粒要100好貴
有沒有含睡

>> No.21126607

>>21126592
I imagine it'd be hard to come up with unique and perfect 無為-tier Chinese words for every single Buddhist concept, especially since there weren't exactly millions of educated people back then and even less that specialized in Sanskrit/classic Indian culture/Buddhism. Unlike today where there are millions of educated people in Japan, and it's not exactly hard to just use onyomi-fied Chinese words from Taiwan for scientific/other concepts, instead of rushing to use some lame ass katakana mess.

>> No.21126611

今日のスケジュール
3:15 ankiで漢字
3:35 字幕なしでアニメ
4:00 本読む
4:30 漫画読む
4:50 ankiで漢字
5:10 字幕なしアニメ
5:35 漫画読む
6:05 今日の漢字終わる
6:30 30分ゴロゴロ/djt/reddit/sns
7:00 字幕なしアニメ
7:25 漫画読む
7:45 本読む
8:10 ankiで単語(慣れてない読み方だけのデック)
8:25 pspのVN

>> No.21126614

>>21126606
我愛陸妹和台妹

>> No.21126636

>>21126607
Well they were doing that in other areas as well while trade along the Silk Road boomed. It’s just that the cultural changes that occurred following however many generations of mongol and manchu domination of the Han people made the language very closed.

>> No.21126665

>>21126611
wtf is ur problem switching between media so many times
how can u enjoy anything like that

>> No.21126670

>>21126611
今日のスケジュール
3:30 NHKニュース
4:30 シットポスト
5:00 食べて将棋する
8:00 NHKニュース
12:00 寝ようとする

>> No.21126683

今日のスケジュール
3:00 エロゲとシットポスト

>> No.21126690

>>21126683
それは何より

>> No.21126709

今日のスケジュール
5:00 オナニー
5:10 4chan閲覧
7:00 またオナニー
7:05 4chan閲覧(続)
10:00 またまたオナニー
10:02 寝る

>> No.21126728

>>21124462
>tfw wake up the next day and still feel unreasonably fucking awful
why can't i just be emotionally stable and not feel this bad after every sad anime I watch, I'm 24 not fuckin 15

>> No.21126742

>>21126728
It's good to let yourself feel things anon. I cry at the end of pretty much every sad or happy anime I watch if it's even decent, I used to think it was weird but now when a show makes me bawl it just feels good man. It's like taking a really good shit but for emotions

>> No.21126755

>>21126742
I know the exact feeling you are describing but this isn't it. It doesn't feel good or therapeutic. Every few anime one hits me like this and makes me feel like death. A few times I actually feel back into month long depressive spells cause of it (wasn't depressed about the anime for a month obviously). I have a few anime that I realized this would happen and dropped it before the end even though I'm dying to know what happens.

>> No.21126778

>>21126755
I guess its different if you have to deal with depression. I only have anxiety (like most people on 4chan probably lol) so I don't have that problem. Hope you feel better soon aniki

>> No.21126789

>>21126770
I feel the general themes and values are still relatable. Otherwise it's unlikely it would have any impact on me.
>>21126778
>Hope you feel better soon aniki
10 years in so wouldn't bet on it but thanks

>> No.21126811 [DELETED] 

How is the 得んがために read? とくんがてみに?

>> No.21126816

How is the 得んがために read? とくんがために?

>> No.21126847

>>21126816
for me it's
>得什麼什麼什麼什麼什麼

>> No.21126857

>>21126770
if ur cryin cuz u think japans the only safe space from ur whorepocalypse ur far worse off than the depressed anon
just watch some anime characters suffer and cry about it wtf is ur problem

>> No.21126858

"えんがために"

>> No.21126861
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21126861

Check out this cool new word
櫃檯

>> No.21126867

Any easy way to resync .srt files when there are several spots in the file where the delay changes? I downloaded a bunch of Conan subtitles but I suspect they're timed relative to the original 30-minute TV block, so with every commercial break the subs get desynced again.

>> No.21126889

>>21126861
>櫃檯
based and redchinapilled

>> No.21126904
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21126904

>>21126857
hehe, I don't know. I'm weird.

>> No.21126935

Why do they sometimes write 逝く when the MC just normally ikus?

>> No.21126953

>>21126935
会う, 逢う, 遭う, 遇う. Slightly different flavours of the same word that the Chinese happened to have different characters for. Same for 早い and 速い, 引く and 弾く.

>> No.21126958

>>21126953
Yea but that iku usually means to die like in 逝去 no?

>> No.21126963

>>21126889
*bluechina-redpilled, ROCchinapilled
Thanks

>> No.21126972

>>21125370
>trying to sort them as a whole into levels of difficulty like this is inherently retarded.
yea no, it really isn't though. try reading some +2200 kanji count novels from the library and then compare it to manga...

>> No.21127015

>>21126770
Most nip normies look down on cartoonshitters though, whether they be from Dai Nippon or kaigai gaikoku

>> No.21127027

>>21127015
t. amerishit

>> No.21127041

>>21126958
>逝
Doesn't that have the extra connotation of orgasm?

>> No.21127048

>>21127027
t. coping yuroshit who likes cartoons instead of real girls, who'd make his european ancestors who sailed to the other side of the world to bang asian chicks completely ashamed that this what their descendants have become

>> No.21127051

>>21127041
>転じて、俗に性的な絶頂(オーガズム)に達する事を言う。(おそらく「昇天」に由来するものと思われる)
Welp you are right. Only took a second to google that

>> No.21127054
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21127054

DOUBLE SHELLS AT THE BOTTOM
讚賞

>> No.21127104

Todays phrase: 天は二物を与えず

>> No.21127116

>>21127048
I'm american

>> No.21127422
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21127422

旧環太平洋保健機関神戸センターによる病原体実験施設安全対策必携に基づく緊急勧告は、国家全域に病原体・組換微生物・生物製剤による感染・発病等の可能性があるとした。 非常災害による予想されうる被害は、国内経済と公共福祉に重大な影響を及ぼす激甚なものであるとし、国家公安委員会の勧告に基づいて内閣 総理大臣は20**年*月**日、緊急事態の布告を発した。

  また内閣府に緊急災害対策本部が設置されると同時に、所轄区域を国内全域と定め、災害対策基本法第28条の3第8項に基づき同内閣府に緊急災害現地対策本部を設置。

  また国立微生物資源研究所による報告から同生物災害は間接侵略の可能性も高く、総理大臣は通常の警察体制による治安維持確保は不可能であると判断、自衛隊に治安出動を命じた。

 これらの体制は長期に渡って想定され、権力の濫用が懸念されたが、総理大臣は本件を未曾有の国家災害であると認知しており、緊急事態に対する特別措置の準用範囲内であるとした。

  この一連の災害対策に関し、ライフラインの早急な維持確保に動くとともに、同種災害に対処している米国と歩調を合わせ、亜細亜ならびに欧州方面への警戒を強めた。

 緊急事態宣言は布告から1年が経過した20**年*月現在、なおも持続。 宣言が解除されないこと、また教師などの人員が圧倒的に不足していることなどから、各教育機関の授業は無期延期となっている。

>> No.21127586

>>21126770
fucking cringe

>> No.21127637

>パトラちゃん様がコーラを振るだけ
is this Patora-chan-sama or am I missing something?

>> No.21127720

>>21127422
これはN1でよめる?

>> No.21127723

>>21126953
会う and 遭う are not "slightly" different

>> No.21127751

My problem is being around English speaking friends all the time since I got here two months ago. My friends wife basically refuses to speak Japanese with us since she hates teaching. Today I finally moved into my own apartment and the landlady is super nice, so she likes to chat. I already feel a little bit more confident just from one day of being forced to use Japanese.

My biggest issue is I have a very low vocabulary, maybe 400 fluent words and 2-300 non fluent words. I want to learn more but am so lazy!

>> No.21127763

>>21127751
So I'm already in Japan for about 11 days and still have more than a week before me. I just wanted to say it's just so satisfying to communicate with locals all around Japan. Through my Japanese we got to speak with a couple of Japanese people (which were good in English and others not so) and getting told I'm very good in Japanese just felt/feels so good. I'm a looong way from being fluent (and I suck at Kanji learning) but this opportunity gave me a lot of confidence and I'm definitely going to pursue Japanese fluency. I hope I will stick to my decision till the end.

So whenever you get the chance to also visit Japan, I wish you will feel the same <3

>> No.21127794

based reddit posts poster

>> No.21127830

i'll admit it guys when nips end sentences with が。i don't instinctively trail off because of that fucking period like why the fuck do they throw a fucking period on the end if they trail off like we do in english to convey an unfinished or dissatisfied feeling/thought like i'm going to do here...

>> No.21127864

Is there any easy horror VNs?

>> No.21127869

>>21127720
I can read all the words (3 year since I started japanese) but piecing together the meaning is a huge headache.

>> No.21127879

うるせー

>> No.21127891

>>21127869
What does this mean? Can you read it or not?

>> No.21127900

>>21127891
He still thinks that knowing the kanji = knowing the word despite having the counterexample before his very eyes. Leave him be.

>> No.21127927

>>21127891
It means I can fluently read the sentences without stopping or looking up any words, but due to the density of information in quick succession I would have to reread a sentence multiple times to really get it. You'll notice what I mean when you get better at Japanese and move onto more complex things.

>> No.21127946

>>21127927
lol fuckin destroyed

>> No.21127949

>>21127422
Evans syndrome (ES) is a rare severe autoimmune disorder characterized by the combination of autoimmune hemolytic anemia and immune thrombocytopenia. In most cases, the underlying cause is unknown. We sought to identify genetic defects in pediatric ES (pES), based on a hypothesis of strong genetic determinism. In a national, prospective cohort of 203 patients with early-onset ES (median (range) age at last follow-up: 16.3 years (1.2-41.0)) initiated in 2004, 80 non-selected consecutive individuals underwent genetic testing. The clinical data were analyzed as a function of the genetic findings. Fifty-two patients (65%) received a genetic diagnosis (the M+ group): 49 carried germline mutations, and 3 carried somatic variants. Thirty-two (40%) had pathogenic mutations in one of 9 genes known to be involved in primary immunodeficiencies (TNFRSF6, CTLA4, STAT3, PIK3CD, CBL, ADAR1, LRBA, RAG1, and KRAS), whereas 20 patients (25%) carried probable pathogenic variants in 16 genes that had not previously been reported in the context of autoimmune disease. Lastly, no genetic abnormalities were found in the remaining 28 patients (35%, the M- group). The M+ group displayed more severe disease than the M- group, with a greater frequency of additional immunopathologic manifestations and a greater median number of lines of treatment. Six patients (all from the M+ group) died during the study. In conclusion, pES was potentially genetically determined in at least 65% of cases. Systematic, wide-ranging genetic screening should be offered in pES; the genetic findings have prognostic significance and may guide the choice of a targeted treatment.

Now you know that it's OK to run into things you can't fucking read.

>> No.21127959

>>21126770
anime these days is real bad w. the turbo sex shit and akiba is actually just a complete slutgarden now and only a small corner of it still remains as our quaint denki town for the good old boys

>> No.21127966

>>21127949
this isnt really unreadable to a native english speaker, theres just a few words you wouldnt know but could guess roughly what they mean (ie autoimmune hemolytic anemia is prob something to do with red blood cells fucking up and making u not have enough)

>> No.21127974

>>21127966
There's a shitton of words you don't know and also you have no idea what it's actually saying. Sure you can tell how it's structured and you can probably pronounce most of it, but it's not like you can actually read it if you're into into the relevant domain of study.

>> No.21127976

>>21127949
>when you disprove your own point

>> No.21127979

>>21127949
See the difference is that this is from some ultra advanced medical journal, but the post you're quoting is from a porn game aimed at teenagers.

>> No.21127981

>>21127979
No big difference between the two :^)

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>>21127979
>porn game
>aimed at teenagers

>> No.21127990

>>21127974
I counted 3 words I don't know.
>but it's not like you can actually read it if you're into into the relevant domain of study.
It has the same structure as the abstract of any other research paper. Perhaps the issue is that you've never read one?

>> No.21127998

>>21127927
savage but true

>> No.21128002

>>21127949
I mean i probably understood more of the Japanese than this

>> No.21128003

>>21127990
I've probably read several times more research papers than you have, don't try to talk shit. By the way, things like PIK3CD and TNFRSF6 are "words", and if you really knew so many of them, congrats on your medical degree!

>> No.21128004

>>21127974
the only word in that ive never seen is "thrombocytopenia", and im a japanese studies major so by no means well versed in this kind of language

>> No.21128008

>>21128003
those arent words that are actually relevant to understand the content of the text because they're all grouped as "immunodeficiencies". i now know all those words are immunodeficiencies and therefore know the words well enough to understand the passage

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>and im a japanese studies major

>> No.21128018

>>21128003
they make up words in medical who cares

>> No.21128019

>>21128003
>I've probably read several times more research papers than you have
Doubt it.
>By the way, things like PIK3CD and TNFRSF6 are "words", and if you really knew so many of them, congrats on your medical degree!
Seriously dude? Are you an ESL or something?

>> No.21128025

>>21128004
The question is not "never seen", it's whether you actually know what the word means.

By the way these are the only ordinary words I didn't know (i.e. I had to look them up and the meaning was not what I expected):

>thrombocytopenia
>germline
>somatic

And I'd say there's something like a 50/50 chance of a random academic native speaker of English correctly understanding what "pathogenic" means without consulting a dictionary at some point.

>>21128019
I'm a native speaker of English. Someone isn't an ESL just because they tell you you're wrong.

>>21128008

>> No.21128027

>>21127891
たいわんのおにいちゃんだとおもうよ

>> No.21128031

>>21128025
Bad mispaste at the end, ignore that.

>> No.21128033

>>21128025
>Someone isn't an ESL just because they tell you you're wrong
I thought you were an ESL because your argument stinks

>> No.21128039

>>21128033
You're just an idiot, man.

>> No.21128040

>>21128031
No, I will not. Elaborate or I'm disregarding your entire post and thus your existence.

>> No.21128041

minna genki desune : )

>> No.21128042
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>>21128040
By the way here are the cutest things in existence.

>> No.21128045
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21128045

>> No.21128047

>>21128042
That's a weird looking KOS-MOS.

>> No.21128060
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21128060

DOUBLE HORSE
駕駛

>> No.21128065

most important link u might click this year

https://streamable.com/5x0yf

>> No.21128108
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DOUBLE FOOT
跟蹤

>> No.21128126

>>21128060
>>21128108
ちみもうりょう

など?

>> No.21128144

>>21126031
NO shit everything he charges for it's stolen

>> No.21128151

I was mixing up 気がする, 気が付く, and 気にする for months until I said fuck it and anki'd them and after a week of anki I stopped mixing them up.

>> No.21128158

>>21128144
yea i left his patreon once i realized i could get everything he was offering by just lurking DJT basically.

>> No.21128161

>>21128151
Congrats, you discovered the true purpose of memorization.

>> No.21128163

>>21128157
I've only watched like 30 shows.

>> No.21128169

>>21128163
ok that makes sense then, good job

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>>21128163
That's enough.

>> No.21128202

https://youtu.be/0BKlU_qkwzs?t=3410

This is what anki will give you. Sounds like a worthwhile investment. And 30 seconds before this timestamp he describes knowing words on TV that even natives wouldn't know.

>> No.21128208

>>21128151
i cant even imagine what this is like

>> No.21128232

>>21128223
Nah, if you kept reading it'd happen, it's just that memorization is better at specifically clearing up confusion than more exposure. Same reason some people have to memorize mnemonics for left vs right (even in their native language).

>> No.21128246

>>21128232
That's probably true but it was starting to get frustrating so I'm glad I put them in anki. But I'm not pretending you should put every unknown word into anki or something.

>> No.21128275

>>21128246
Here, have this random piece of garbage from that M*tt video someone posted that somehow specifically describes this problem. https://streamable.com/mx8rn

The conclusion he goes on to draw is dumb ("Being a mindless Anki addict is good!") but what he says for this particular chunk of video is right.

>> No.21128285

>>21128202
>Sounds like a worthwhile investment.
As an ESL there's some types of vocab where I will get stumped because I never had to talk about it in English or heard anyone else talk about it much. Bones in your body is a good example. But ultimately it hardly matters and it's that retarded ideal of native like fluency once more. Not sure what this has to do with "giving up" because I'm able to enjoy English content just fine without having this type of knowledge actively in my brain. If such a word ever comes up I can roughly place it and that's completely sufficient or alternatively it takes half a second to get the word that I'm missing with no need to pre-study it actively.

For some parts of the language my vocabulary is quite deep, for others it's not but that's the same for every speaker of a language, foreign or native. It's just that a native speakers vocabulary is more well developed in a lot of aspects of daily life usually, while for ESL not living in the country this tends to coincide much more with their personal interess or professional field.

>> No.21128288

>>21128223
like i wasnt saying i never mix things up but that specific post with those specific things is just crazy to me

>> No.21128295

>>21127763
>he doesn't know

>> No.21128304

>>21128295
learn to identify the reddit copypasta so you don't embarass yourself when you seriously reply to these.

>> No.21128307

I know the word "femur" but I'd have to look up where it actually is. I know "tailbone" but only because it has "tail" in it. I know "sternum" but only because I have sternum problems. I know "collarbone" but only because someone in middleschool broke one of his playing hockey. I know "rib" because it's relatively common and even used as a name for food. I can't easily remember any other names of bones that don't just have the name of the body part in them like hip bone. Native English speaker btw.

Oh yeah I know what carpals are since nobody in typing class would ever shut up about carpal tunnel and people online were paranoid about developing it for a while. In the future less people will know the word "carpal" since the carpal tunnel paranoia craze is over (and has been replaced by the RSI craze, which is closer to the truth).

>> No.21128312

mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

>> No.21128314

>My biggest issue is I have a very low vocabulary, maybe 400 fluent words and 2-300 non fluent words. I want to learn more but am so lazy!
i'm trying to sympathize with the "output is fun!" people who have posted in this thread but i can't i'm sorry. if you only know 400 words how the fuck are you having fun saying absolutely nothing interesting? fuck you

>> No.21128328

>>21128307
>and has been replaced by the RSI craze, which is closer to the truth
RSI prevents me from playing games like sekiro so i just browse djt.

>> No.21128331

>>21128304
Never used reddit but i've been here for a long time and i still fail. Bully me senpai i deserve it

>> No.21128335

sekiro isnt a mashy game tho in fact u dont have to press much of nothin to utterly stomp that game

get good retard

>> No.21128350

>>21128335
because of RSI i can't hold my hands in the positions required to play games on a controller or mouse and keyboard for extended periods of time. in fact merely typing intensively for 2 minute bursts throughout the day aggravates it to the point it hurts a lot the next day. i probably shouldn't even be typing this post.

>> No.21128355

>>21128350
just cut your hands off and get robot ones

>> No.21128368

>>21128350
use voice to text software bro this isnt 1999

>> No.21128376 [DELETED] 

>>21128350
Just click auto retard. YOu can change the speed in the options menu usually.

>> No.21128387 [DELETED] 

>>21128376
nvm sry rofl i though you was talking about vns

>> No.21128398

why would u delete ur post ? embarrassed cuz u didnt read ? fuckin pussy boy

>> No.21128408

Heh-heh sry 2 busy slaying japanese LN to reply

>> No.21128413

which 1 is it

>> No.21128481

I hate 重箱読み and 湯桶読み

>> No.21128539
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21128539

なんで現代のモニターがこんなに解像度が高いなのにインターネットの文字はまだこんなに小さいなの?ほぼ全ページには拡大しないとなにも読めないよ。

>> No.21128588

This is the peak of Japanese expression
https://streamable.com/j28st

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>>21128539
git gud

>> No.21128650

>>21128617
漢字だけじゃなくてラテン文字も小さいすぎて読めない。

>> No.21128658

>>21128650
Make the system use bigger font size system-wide, or something.

>> No.21128666

>>21128588
what can u say hes just a gifted lyricist with creativity oozing from every pore on his body

>> No.21128720

So was matt the quizmaster?

>> No.21128726

more like the pizzmaster

>> No.21128727

>>21128720
seeing as how some random beat that retarded tripfag, no. matt can't be beaten.

>> No.21128744

>>21128202
1:01:36 he calls out polyglots like steve kaufmann. they don't need anki because they only get to an intermediate level in the languages they learn.

>> No.21128784

>>21128202
>1:12:18
>it's a 50/50 guess because japanese is bullshit
Why do people freak out when the language isn't so regimented? Japanese just have an affinity for context and understand language isn't absolute. You can never speak the absolute truth no matter how hard you try because words are limited reconstructions of reality.

>> No.21128794

>>21128784
why make excuses for a clearly stupid language dude. elitism?

>> No.21128797

>>21128727
weird that matt opened everybody to come debate him on discord the day adter quizmaster left though

>> No.21128815

>>21128794
Words and math are different things, the vagueness isn't a negative it's a positive. Fascist approach to language are just limiting and robotic.

>> No.21128973

>>21128794
early Wittgenstein
>>21128815
late Wittgenstein

>> No.21129014

good get fucked idiot

>> No.21129125

Does anyone work on subbing airing anime at all?

>> No.21129137

>>21129127
yeah basically

in reality it's probably not going to be THAT harmful in the long run but you are technically missing out when it comes to the fact that you're no longer technically training the ability to recognize the word in isolation

also they take way too fucking long to review properly since you have to read a whole entire fucking sentence instead of just making your brain process a couple characters (and if you're not reading them in full then you can't argue that they're not bad for learning vocab)

>> No.21129145

>>21129125
(with japanese subs, i mean)

>> No.21129151

>>21129127
I went back to just vocab too. I'd rather expose myself to more native material via writing and live media. Sentences are just more time consuming which is the problem with them.

>> No.21129154

>>21129127
you're preaching to the choir

>> No.21129160

news is so much easier to read than vns holy SHIT

>> No.21129184

X 日語
O 漢語

>> No.21129257

>>21129184
X 日語
X 漢語
O 囈語

>> No.21129264

x posting
o not posting

>> No.21129276

>>21129257
>geigo
LMAO

>> No.21129281

Is there a reason why in every Anki deck, the reading of a kanji is hidden in the note editor? Why isn't it the first thing shown on the screen when I press "Show answer"? How can people learn kanji this way?

>> No.21129289

>>21129285
MOOOOOOOOT

>> No.21129310
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21129310

>>21129285
>汉语

>> No.21129330

答得錯 日語
答得對 漢語
差不多 汉语

>> No.21129340

>>21129001
It's being overhauled currently

>> No.21129353

hopefully into the bin

>> No.21129371

>>21129301
How? I remember several kanji from a deck, but I still don't know how I should read them.

>> No.21129425

What is more important: memorizing adjectives used to describe movement or plant names?

>> No.21129453

>>21129425
Making sure you have unique keyword and way of telling apart every synonym for "suddenly".

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>>21129340
senpai!

>> No.21129581

>>21129548
Hu? At least that's what being said in the discord. The list for books is being compiled into a complete list

>> No.21129609

Bros is there really a point to reading baby tier manga with mostly hiragana? I feel like I'd be better off reading something with more kanji because that's the goal, right? I was all excited to start the Yotsubato reading pack and I was a couple of pages in when I thought of this.

What do you guys reccomend? Whether it be a vn/manga/eroge or whatever, I want something beginner tier with a healthy amount of kanji so I can at least feel like I'm absorbing some vocab.

>> No.21129611

enjoy media that is comprehensible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qdxfJIz4E

>> No.21129615

>>21129609
Read newspapers. Fuck manga. Worst case, read magazines.

>> No.21129616

>>21129609
The most important thing is to like what you read. The second most important thing is for whatever you read to be even slightly challenging.

>> No.21129626

anyone have a link to an updated playlist of dogen's phonetics series?

>> No.21129650

>>21129609
>Bros is there really a point to reading baby tier manga with mostly hiragana? I feel like I'd be better off reading something with more kanji because that's the goal, right?
The idea is to read stuff you can actually make sense of. You won't get to 100 from zero, so it makes sense to not pick the hardest shit you can find from the get go. You need to ease yourself into the language a little, however it's also important to not stay complacent with the level you're at for too long. But if you're just starting out the chances this is true is very minute.

Just don't stay reading slice of life cute girl manga for years with nothing else.

>> No.21129704

>>21129615
don't hate on manga i've read 50 volumes or more by now and gotten at least 3000 vocabs from it

>> No.21129709

>>21129581
>itazuraneko discord
>100 online
>200 members
Is /djt/ a dinosaur?

>> No.21129713

>>21129709
so that's why the thread is so dead

speaking of dead, so is /jp/ as a whole

>> No.21129714

>>21129615
>>21129616
>>21129650
I see. Well I've only got like 800 kanji learned in the core2k deck so maybe I should just stick to yotsubato, I'd rather take it a little bit easy at first than jumping headfirst into a brick wall of runes.

>> No.21129776

>>21129713
Discord seems like a-lot but it's actually very slow. Only between 3-10 posts per day. I guess /djt/ on /jp/ is still the main chatroom.

>> No.21129784

>>21127771
You don't know japanese. Don't tell me you can't sometimes understand lyrics in your own tongue.

>> No.21129802

>>21129713
>>21129776
There are some other discord servers as well, but they seem to devolve into groups of maybe 20 people chatting and the others are all lurkers.

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