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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

>> No.19595603

>>19595553
Best heroines are the ones you raise yourself.(as long as there is no blood relation)

>> No.19595615

>>19595603
>as long as there is no blood relation

>> No.19595656

>>19595615
I have lines that i wont cross even in fiction.

>> No.19595667

>>19595656
But that's what fiction is for.

>> No.19595707

>>19595667
I just don't really like incest. Maybe because I actually have a sister and brother in real life.
If they aren't blood related its fine, but if they are I just find it too unrealistic.

>> No.19595738
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Their artist must be really happy with this game considering his Pixiv is full of dragon girls and Kawakami fanart. Now he gets to do a whole game full of dragons, one of which is a robot.

>> No.19595745

>>19595707
this. Uhh but i dont have an older sister so thats cool with me. Might not have a daughter but well thats just a no no for me.

>> No.19595778

>>19595707
I'm glad I don't have siblings so I can enjoy all this amazing incest porn.

>> No.19595803

>>19595738
Characters in this seem a lot less cute than previous titles unfortunately

>> No.19595809

I have a little sister and I can enjoy blood related incest in fiction fine. You guys are just fags.

>> No.19595862

>>19595809
Once you start reading VNs, it's very hard to be just fine with incest. Either that's your fetish, or you'll be hating it. It's way too common, with always the same story and the real issues rarely to never touched upon. It's basically a worse childhoodfriend character.

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telling it like it is

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>>19595803
I think Hypno is the character design peak of the series. And then there are mistakes like that awesome demon girl with the 3 eyes in Ragnarok being a side character with almost no scenes.

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>>19595917
Pic related is fitting for this.

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>>19595738
>>19595803
>>19595967
Never played the series, but I fapped to HCGs of this cutie. There's just something appealing about her design.

>> No.19596387

Do I need to read reminiscence first to go into Aki route?

>> No.19596467

>>19595603
>as long as there is no blood relation
I've seen this cop-out enough in various media that I've become one of those people who can't stand it anymore. Either do it or don't.

>> No.19596500

>>19596467
what like adopted daughters? Something like the ones in well ひまわりの教会と長いなつやすみ and 家族けいかく (can't really remember anyothers)。 Like i get it if your talking about brother-sister incest since yeah a lot has half/step stuff.

>> No.19596625

>>19596387
No, you need to read it after her route or the choices for Makoto won't appear.

>> No.19596628
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MOTHERFUCKING SCISSORS
That fight was fun. Could have done with less of the cheesy rape though.

>> No.19596672

>>19595862
i don't think most people would turn to escapism media looking for "issues" to begin with, plus there aren't that many ways to depict the "real issues" to begin with and there are much more interesting drama out there than incest drama.

>> No.19596734

>>19596672
>there are much more interesting drama out there than incest drama.
Maybe so, but then why is there all that incest? Why do 80% of eroge protagonists have sister, of which 95% are heroines?

This whole thing first started with incest being looked at as what it was. Then people where like "I don't want all this drama all the time", thus the not blood related was born. But then people where like "this isn't really that real and lacks the taboo". That leads us to today, where there's literally no difference between blood related and not blood related sister heroines anymore. Why are they still a sister? They lost everything that makes them a sister. In the end, it's all about the onii-chan calling, which is pretty sad.

>> No.19596828

>>19596628
The OP's pretty hype. How's the game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVsDscIfE1g

>> No.19596854

>>19596734
>Why do 80% of eroge protagonists have sister
this is actually just like real life
>of which 95% are heroines
my guess is there are people wanting to fuck them
well if i had to read the same preface and drama every time i'd be pissed too (and this is a jab at both types, one goes all muh societal issues and one always make sure to waste a few minutes explaining why they aren't blood related). a sibling/relative would still have a different "closeness" and history compared to those that are not, and banging someone not blood-related you've been with for a very long time is still very much a taboo in the real world. characters don't have to always be a walking bag of taboos, though, now that would be sad.

>> No.19596857

>>19596828
akabei soft doesn't have any good games

>> No.19596863

>>19596500
Yeah I meant siblings but there's the case of step parents too. I was just responding to the topic in general though, although rereading that post they were specifically talking about daughters, which actually bothers me except if it is adopted

>>19596734
It's a game about fucking girls where you probably don't have to deal with shit like STDs, pregnancy, or even the girls ever having periods usually. If the protag is already living with a girl, it's kind of a waste not to use the one he has the most easy access to, and is probably jealous/protective anyway, as a heroine.

Honestly, if anything enough of that theme probably made people question why it even matters if it's a sister. It's other people who don't like it, and there's not any real issue besides legal and social ones anyway. And those even only if they aren't royalty.

>> No.19596870

>>19596828
I'm still in the common route. It's pretty okay, you'll probably like it if you have a thirst for vigilante heroes who protect the people by murdering evildoers and who take justice very seriously.

>> No.19597373

>>19596863
>It's a game about fucking girls
Not like I'm talking about nukige here. And if we really go to "all eroge are only about sex and everything else doesn't matter", than there's no room for any kind of arguments.
Point is, the devs act as if there's more than just sex. And if they do that, they gotta do it all the way. There's nothing worse than nukige that have way too much random shit nobody cares about, or "not nukige" that just randomly use nukige plot advancing just for something lewd. Choose.

But in the end, it's like I said. The little sister heroine is just a shitty childhoodfriend variation nowadays. Much more limited, but with onii-chan. And that seems insanely popular in Japan right now. Finding an actual sister heroine however is hard. Tags and such won't help you.

>> No.19597388

>>19597373
Man you sure like to argue about this often.

>> No.19597461

Every VN that I've played so far had slow and boring parts. Maybe because they try to stretch out the story to get paid more or because they want you to immerse in the boring life of the protagonist.

So I'm looking for a VN that has consistently interesting writing. For reference, I think that LNs often have consistently interesting writing. For further reference, Danganronpa is the most "interesting" VN I have played and found that it had boring parts.

I guess the VN format inherently has to include the protagonist's boring thoughts. Might as well read an LN, right?

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>>19597373
Good sister heroines are hard to find, specially without falling into shitty incest plots.

>> No.19597536

>>19597373
>Point is, the devs act as if there's more than just sex. And if they do that, they gotta do it all the way.
Because you say so?

>> No.19597549

>>19597461
Most fictional written works in general include the protagonist's "boring thoughts".

>> No.19597552

>>19597461
Not to say that inner monologues can never be boring, but you might want to get checked for ADHD.

>> No.19597555

What's your favorite VN?

>> No.19597565

>>19597461
You probably weren't made for reading. Go watch anime or something.

>> No.19597573

>>19597373
>the devs act as if there's more than just sex
They do?
And assuming they did, this would fuck up every character type anyway.
It's not hard to find good sister characters outside of nukige anyway. I don't think anything needs to have "fuel for tired incest drama" as a defining trait.

>> No.19597575

>>19597555
YU-NO
so far

>> No.19597593

>>19597461
Sounds like you just don't like reading and would rather watch an action movie or something.

>> No.19597603

>>19597552
>>19597549
Like I said it's only in VNs that I find it boring because they repeat the same worries over and over in their head.
VNs also like to delve into the protagonist's daily routine, sometimes multiple times.

If you're going to say that the above isn't always true, then that's precisely the point of my post, I'm looking for recommendations of VNs that don't do that (at all, preferably).

>>19597565
Ironic considering you weren't able to properly read my post where I said I enjoy reading LNs.

>> No.19597609

>>19597603
You probably don't know Japanese

>> No.19597617

>>19597603
Literally pick any highly rated VN on egs that looks interesting you autismo. Something that's boring to you might be extremely enjoyable for someone else.

>> No.19597794

>>19597524
She's good because she's the closest you'll get to a relevant little brother in a moege.

>> No.19597843

>>19597524
I'm a little upset that there wasn't even an omake scene for her. Even something as simple as her throwing together a VR setup to fantasize about the 3P with Nanase they teased at all game would have been fine and fitting considering her technical know-how, but alas.

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>>19594655
No
>>19597603
Majikoi is the most consistently funny I remember, others I can recall would be akagoei, apeiria and kiminago, though there are more I can't remember.

Anyhow if you don't want to play vns that have boring part you will lose the experience to play many awesome/godtier vns, as the great majority have boring pacing parts to get into the world (世界観), and if you can't stand it I think reading VNs isn't your thing.

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Is this worth reading? How does it compare to biman 4?

>> No.19597998

>>19597903
Thanks. Majikoi should be fun.
>>19597617
Thanks. Picked Rance 10 but it feels like cheating.

>> No.19598032

I want to believe I'll enjoy majikoi but the art is a real turn off. Is it really that good?

>> No.19598038

>>19598032
No, the art is the best part of it. Read Tsuyokiss instead.

>> No.19598164
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Ok. This blonde is something.

>> No.19598195

Thoughts on More games?

>> No.19598200

>>19598195
Somehow they've done the same game three times already.

>> No.19598243

>>19598032
Majikoi is shit. The art is shit, the comedy is endless seiyuu jokes, the writing is cringey nationalist propaganda.

>> No.19598433

What is the comfiest eroge of the last year. Haven't read anything in a while.

>> No.19598450

>>19598433
Yuru Camp

>> No.19598465

>>19598450
Yeah I saw that anime and it was boring as fuck. I'm talking about eroge.

>> No.19598481

>>19598465
Sorry there is nothing as good as it. Come back next year.

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>が、諦めん。諦めんぞ見るがいい、俺の辞書にそんな言葉は存在せん!
>なぜなら誰でも、諦めなければ夢は必ず叶うと信じているのだァッ!
Holy fuck, how the hell did Masada make a villain better than Reinhard. Fucking Amakasu is the bomb. It's a bit sad he doesn't show up as often as Reinhard, but he makes a big fucking impression.

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>>19598032
It's hard to describe it, it isn't godtier but it's like plain good(地味にうまい), like you enjoy all the road but don't get touched, though the really good heroines are in the A series of majikoi in my opinion, and the art is a factor that depends in how much you put weight on it/hate the game art.

tldr: it isn't anything from another world but it's like a certain entertainment without boring or superfluous storytelling(in my opinion).

>> No.19598717

>>19598553
Yeah, he is great. Masada is good at writing antagonists.

>> No.19599250
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Does anyone know how to fix this? Tried googling but the only thing I could find was a hongfire thread about another game and the solution there didn't help.

>> No.19599295

>>19599250
>all ages yurishit
Just uninstall it and play a real VN

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>>19599295

>> No.19599522

>>19599517
A risque CG still isn't actual H.

>> No.19599557

>>19596828
Not the person you originally replied to but it's fairly decent. Out of the main routes Shinobu's route was pretty cool, the other two were just alright. Definitely has some decent action and the game didn't feel overly long or drawn out.

Also, what's a good first Elf game for someone who has never tried their stuff?

>> No.19599625

>>19597603
After Sakura no Uta, I relish the Slice of Life portions of any VN as a reminder of the joyousness and beauty in my own daily life.

You could just read Urobuchi.

>> No.19599759

>Shiroha, Tsumugi and Kamome done
Think I would rate them Kamome > Tsumugi > Shiroha at the moment.
Kamome's mother is also yummy.

>> No.19599870

>>19598195
Too much magic, I want my slice of life without the magic bullshit.

>> No.19599880

>>19599557
>Also, what's a good first Elf game for someone who has never tried their stuff?
How about Kawarazaki-ke no Ichizoku 2? >kinda easy system >has a built-in flowchart >really hard to find anything boring about it (i think so).

If you don't mind about gameplay difficulty, just try anything good or interested you then. In that case you may want to try Isaku or Doukyuusei 2. They're good for starters, or so I thought.

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>>19598195
I don't know why you would want to play More's games and in general their subsidiaries's.

You're playing for the plot? Most of their games plots are mediocre at best and downright nonsensical at worst.
You're playing for the "plot". Sure the art is hot, but it also has a severe case of sameface syndrome. And the writing in their h-scenes sucked ass so much that I don't think you can even get it up.

>Aaaah.ah..ah....
>Kimochiii
>Ikuuuuuu!
There, I just described 99% of the dialogues and saved you from reading their lazily written h-scenes.

>> No.19600197

>>19600168
What kind of text do you need in your sex scene, exactly? Do you need an anatomical run down? Metaphors and similes? Important plot exposition? Play by play description of what is happening?

>> No.19600292

>>19600168
You just described 99% of eroge.

>> No.19600362

Is 世界征服彼女 any good?

>> No.19600372

>>19600197
I also asked myself this question, and personally, the answer was that I don't need any text. Consequently, I only masturbate to images on boorus or CGs from the gallery these days and skip (or skim) through h-scenes. But I suppose there must be people for whom the writing actually makes a difference somehow.

>> No.19600376

>>19598195
Been playing a lot recently, really like the art. Looking foward to their new game, next month I think?

>> No.19600389
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>>19597906
Art is lovely. Misonoo Mei, as over used as she is, is lovely. Story is okay, but it's still a nukige at the end of the day, so plot is really just a means of getting the characters to ponis in vagoo each other and that part is good. So I'd say it is worth a pick up.

>> No.19600437

>>19600389
I actually liked the scenario until the end. I think it could've been pretty good if they didn't rush the last part so much.

>> No.19600748

>>19599880
>Kawarazaki-ke no Ichizoku 2
Do I not need to play the first game, then? I mean, apparently it's pretty short so I might as well, but still.

>> No.19600817

>>19600168
No one makes mysterious cool type heroines beside Moore these days, every one like these type of characters would love their games, the girl you posted is worth playing the game just for her in my opinion.

Also Moore is good at making Seishun/youth stories mixed with fantasy elements, a refreshing thing if you ask me.

>> No.19600986

>>19600817
>Seishun/youth stories mixed with fantasy elements, a refreshing thing if you ask me

The shit? Most moege is this.

>> No.19601018

>>19600817
>No one makes mysterious cool type heroines
Are you serious? There's one of these in everything.

>> No.19601059

>>19600748
Yeah, you don't need to. They don't have much relation beside the same setting so it's not required.
The first game is kinda nice though, if you feel like playing it then just go ahead. It's really short even if you try to get all the endings and should just take at most a few hours.

>> No.19601131

>>19600168
I liked the 2 i played. ヒマワリと恋の記憶 and Golden hour at least the true routes anyway.

H scenes are all like that, i like the lighting they have in them though, although i dont tend to jack off unless its a nukige , anal or BJ scene anyway.

>> No.19601182

I'm kinda in the mood for Maruto. Do I need to play Chocolat first before playing Parfait?
As for the route order, I heard that one should save Rikako for last, and play Kasuri --> Rikako?

>> No.19601224

>>19599557
I don't know what's a good 'first' Elf game, but I'll tell you all the games that I've liked from them. Dragon Knight 4, Doukyuusei series, pretty much any Doten Meikai game, -saku series, Kawarazaki-ke 2, and yu-no.

>> No.19601286

>>19601182
Some of the characters from Chocolat make an appearance, but no, it's not at all necessary to read it first.

I recommend doing whatever -> Ema -> Rikako.

>> No.19601508

So why wasn't BALDR BRINGER EXTEND CODE uploaded?

>> No.19601680

Which is the best version of Kazoku Keikaku?

>> No.19601705

>>19601680
OG art > remake.

>> No.19601786

>>19600197
>>19600372
For example, take this game: https://vndb.org/v21934
So I went to EGS, typed the title into the search bar, and looked at the tag. It said” 抜きゲー”. Now, if there’s any reason why I should want to play this, that would be to jerk off a few times and then call it a day.

What make sex scenes hot? First thing that comes to mind would be fetishes. We have different kind of fetishes (NTR, mind break,….,insert your fetish here) and if the game panders to those fetishes, of course we would find it hot. But from the looks of it and the “和姦もの” tag, this game doesn’t seem to have any kind of fetishy things going on.

So if the game doesn’t pander to my fetish, the only thing that gonna carry h-scenes is the writing, because I could easily look up the CG set if I only care about the art. Now there are usually 2 kind of patterns that eroge writers come up with.
First pattern would be the writer mostly describing the act of having sex itself and keeping character’s dialogues to a minimum. In this case, the “situations” are what make these scenes hot. But if you play the game or look up the CGs, most of the H-scenes just consist of protag humping his dick at the girls in a dimly lighted room. How boring is that to read.
Second pattern would be h-scenes mostly comprised of character’s dialogues. This would be really hot if the writers know what they’re doing. Make the girl say something that actually reflect her personality and her relationship with the MC up until that point in the story. DON’T JUST USE GENERIC STOCK LINES THAT I HAVE ALREADY SEEN A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE IN OTHER EROGES. The screaming, the “kimochi”, the “iku”,…I could make any random girl A in random eroge B says these lines and it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.

Anyways that’s my perspective on this and it has more to do with nukiges in general and not just this brand’s titles. You may think I am being autistic about all of this (IT’S JUST SOME SEX SCENES, WHO CARES!), but I just want nukige writers to put more efforts in those sex scenes since they are their game’s selling point. Don’t stuff 30 h-scenes in your eroge if they’re just the same lazy copy-and-paste jobs. Quality is what matters.

>> No.19601953

Anyone finished Nukitashi yet? It seems it's kinda long.

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>>19601786
>they are their game’s selling point

>> No.19601980

>>19601953
Nah, dropped it after the first route. Nowhere near good enough to go through even more of it. It's not like it's just long either. It's long without anything happening. 90%+ of the "missions" don't change the status quo. The ero sucks as well, as does the romance. One of those games that started well, but was padded way way too much.

>> No.19602086

You guys are so damn polarizing when it comes to what's good or not

>> No.19602191

>>19600389
I guess I will just read summer pockets then since I skip all h scenes anyway.

>> No.19602247

>>19602191
Why the fuck were you asking about a nukige if you were just going to skip all the sex?

>> No.19602260

>>19602247
Because I just finished biman 4 and enjoyed the story.

>> No.19602416

>>19601953
I'm on the loli-senpai route when the protagonist infiltrates the SS and does the training program. Enjoying every moment of those daily life scenes mixed with action.
It reminds me a lot of Angel Beats, but with far more daily life scenes.

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it’s cute

>> No.19602468

>>19600168
Anon who originally asked here, I saw they released a compilation album with music from their games and I liked a few tracks; noticed I've never read anything of theirs and was curious.
I doubt I'd be into their nukige so I'll try Himawari first.

>> No.19602475

>>19602455
How can anyone fap to this art, it's so bad. Her tits are fake implants, her body doesn't look like it has any weight or form, there's blood everywhere. There is no eroticism to it despite it meaning to invoke that. Visually it is a mess.

>> No.19602498

>>19602475
>How can anyone fap to this art
That's a stupid question. There is nothing people don't fap to.

>> No.19602502

>>19602475
And where the fuck are her ribs, it looks like her stomach in collapsing on itself.

>> No.19602508

>>19602502
is collapsing in on itself*

>> No.19602512

>>19602475
If I like the heroine enough I can look past the bad art and fap to it.

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19602530

Sexy girl

>> No.19602614

Started Erewhon...so far it is very mesmerizing.

>> No.19602795

>>19602475
Someone post it.

>> No.19602912

Should I play the original YU-NO or the remake version?

>> No.19602918

>>19602912
Both side to side.

>> No.19603113

>>19602912
The Japanese version of the TLWiki release is the best one.
The remake is a fucking insult.

>> No.19603317

>>19603113
Why? Isn't the script the same?

>> No.19603345

>>19603317
too many pixels and not enough dithering

>> No.19603981

>>19599517
What game is this?

>> No.19603995

Those Elf remakes of their old PC98 games look so fucking bad. What were they thinking.

>> No.19604005

>>19603981
Time to learn Japanese.
The image you replied to is by far the lewdest CG in the whole game.And also meant to be a bad ending, somehow.

>> No.19604015

>>19599250
Are you using a proper Japanese locale?

>> No.19604263

>>19604015
That issue isn't related to it. But I'm pretty sure you can solve it by googling it. I had that one as well.
Something to do with your Windows language resulting into a certain something being called differently than in the JP version. (coincidentally, for English Windows it's the same as in JP, so the error doesn't appear)

It's basically JP programming. They don't check if you have admin rights for installing, but if you are in some weird group that has absolutely nothing to do with that, but tends to be true if you have those rights. That's also why common solutions don't work. What they do her makes no sense.

>> No.19604287

Anyone had rio script engine problem with Draculius?

>> No.19604930

>>19604263
Yep, instead of using the system variables, they are using the names themselves. Japanese programming at their best.

>> No.19605362

I have a question regarding Elina's route in Dracu-Riot.

Does anyone remember if they somehow managed to solve the problem of her addiction on Yuuto's blood? Although it hasn't been long since I read her route, I can't quite remember.

>> No.19605382

>>19602512
If I like a character enough I'd look up good art - even fanart - for that

>> No.19605615

Do you think playing Eden* by minori is worth it?

>> No.19605733

>>19605615
I liked it, personally. It's only 10 hours so not a huge time investment.

>> No.19605741

>>19605615
no

>> No.19605812

>>19605615
Not for the porn and a game that foreshadows its end only works if the characters are good enough. They are not. Also they introduce another character nearly 15 hours in and they don't get enough screentime...it doesn't feel good. Sex scenes are short but make you think somethings missing.

Game does look beautiful though, Sasuga Minori

>> No.19605901

>>19605733
>>19605812
I see. Thank you for sharing your opinion.

Looks like I might give it a try as it isn't terribly long. Better finish VNs I'm reading right now beforehand though.

>> No.19605996

Anyone can help identify a VN I saw 2-3 years ago but my Japanese skills weren't good enough to get far in at the time but now I want to revisit? Premise was that the protagonist was a cat and gets turned into a human by magic, and if he doesn't get a human girl to fall in love with him by Christmas he will be stuck as a human forever, so he infiltrates a human high school to try to catch one so he can return to normal. I didn't get very far in it but the premise seemed interesting and the art was good and had a unique style to it

>> No.19606020

>>19605996
That premise sounds fucking retarded

>> No.19606026

>>19605996
why the fuck would a cat not want to be human

>> No.19606052

>>19606026
Being a cat is all he'd ever known.

Besides, would you want to be homeless, penniless, no skills or education, no family or acquaintances, basically nonexistent as far as government records and proof of identity goes, like what the fuck is he even supposed to do?

>> No.19606072

>>19606026
Honestly if I were a cat I wouldn't want to become human, being a human is hard and tiring. I'd trade the shorter lifespan for not having to go to work or deal with shitty people anytime.

>> No.19606082

>>19606026
Cats have easy lives.

>> No.19606258

>>19605996
Do you remember anything else about the game? Name of some character?

>> No.19606326

>>19606258
I think one was called Miyu & Kona-tan

>> No.19606723

>>19605996
Is it this? The premise sounds kind of similar, but not exactly the same
https://vndb.org/v5457

>> No.19606796

>>19605615
I finished it recently, and I'd say yes. The first half of the game is 9/10 in my opinion, but it does get a bit boring in the latter half since the story suddenly shifts to slice of life. The game has a lot of pretty good scenes, but unfortunately it doesn't have any one scene that stands out above the others, and in the end it wasn't as dramatic as I had expected it to be. However, I would still say it did what it set out to do pretty well.

Also, as others said, the art is pretty spectacular. It made it feel like you're actually taking part in the interactions as the CGs change to fit what's going on instead of just being a static backdrop.

>> No.19607016

Should I play the original PC version of Chaos:Head? Or emulate the PSP Noah version?

>> No.19607032

>>19606796
I liked the ending

>> No.19607100

>>19607032
I by no means disliked it, but I'm a fan of nakige (albeit, not really the part where they always have a happy resolution), so I wish they tried to make Eden's ending even more heartrending than it already was.

>> No.19607118

>>19607100
I like nakige/utsuge myself was pretty fond of the slow, bittersweet decline sort of tone the ending took.. Felt most thematically fitting.

>> No.19607172

>>19607118
You're right about that; I think it was probably more fitting for it to be this way and I wouldn't change it if I had the chance. It just kind of went against my expectations a bit.

>> No.19607252

>>19602416
>It reminds me a lot of Angel Beats, but with far more daily life scenes.
I like the sound of this.

>> No.19608563
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I really feel like Nukitashi could've been good, but it ended up wanting too much.

-Nukige? 3 hcg for a single main heroine seems nowhere near enough for that.
-Moege? Probably not a good idea to show your girlfriend to the whole island naked then. (and plowing her, while at it, because they are obviously "forced" to do that) Also the romance was pretty meh as well, which isn't a surprise given the setting.
-Plot? No development for the most time and too simple for how much time it takes.
-Battles? If there is no story or development to back them up, they'd need to be better presented.

In the end, it felt just meh to me.

>> No.19608785

>>19608563
It's very good actually, you just have bad taste

>> No.19608820

>>19608563
It's hilarious though.

>> No.19608835

>>19608820
The humour runs dry soon, the game just drags and the super comical situations fall flat most of the time.

>> No.19608846

>>19608563
It's just a meme game.

>> No.19608883

>>19608785
His points are all valid, that said the comedy is good enough that I'm enjoying it. But if the comedy falls flat for him then I can see why it'd be hard to save it, I'd have trouble too.

>> No.19609007

>>19608563
do you happen to also dislike asapro games?

>> No.19609248

>>19609007
Yes and no. Depends on the game. The most recent one was okay, the one before shit. An older one I played was better than both of these. So yeah, yes and no.

My issue wasn't with the comedy here anyway. It was better than I thought even. Often, when you have such crazy settings, the writers rely too much on that alone and you end up with nothing once you got used to it. The normal comedy here however stays somewhat stable. The battles aren't amusing after you got used to the dildo fighting, but that may even be intended. And at least the route I played ended up 70-80% plot/missions, so no comedy there. For me, there simply wasn't enough comedy to carry the whole thing.

>> No.19609562

Whats the h code for nukitashi?

>> No.19609591

>>19600197
I want sex scenes written in poetic meter like the Chinese Classic Jin Ping Mei

>> No.19609603

>>19609562
If you need to hook it in the first place the game will go over your head. Don't play comedy focused or heavily referential games in your beginner learning phase or this >>19608835 will happen to you.

>> No.19609615

>>19609562
/L3@RN!J4P4N353

i made it just for you

>> No.19609621

>>19609562
learn Japanese. Just check the anime-sharing download threads, usually h code in the comments.

>>19609603
You can be shit at reading kanji but understand or speak fluently(assuming he is using it for furigana). Probably....

>> No.19609705

>>19609603
>>19609615
>>19609621
Hooking makes it easier to anki. I've already read SubaHibi and Sakuuta.

>> No.19609707

>>19609705
My condolences, two kamige ruined.

>> No.19609726

>>19609707
I was emotionally moved to the point where I cried for 5 minutes straight after the end, so if you call that ruined then when I reread it I might get a heart attack.

>> No.19609973

>>19609726
I would cry too if I spent several minutes skipping through the whole game and realized that I couldn't read any of it. Truly the worst feeling.

>> No.19610040

>>19609705
You DJT fags are disgusting.

>> No.19610143

>>19610040
Why?

>> No.19610182
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>>19610143
Reminds him of his EOP day. Don't take it personally.

>> No.19610200

Playing VNs without a text hooker isn't realistic even for most people that do know Japanese.

>> No.19610297

>>19610143
The idea that you'd play such games as SubaHibi and SakuUta with a texthooker at low-level of Japanese is just revolting.

>>19610200
Cute Clephas quote.

>> No.19610322

>>19610297
How do you know when you're at a level that's good enough to appreciate SubaHibi and SakuUta?

>> No.19610328

>>19610322
With enough ego, it's easy.

>> No.19610420

>>19610322
When you're not using a texthooker. But I guess that would be too egoistic, eh?

>> No.19610421

The problem is not the comprehension, that's a given, but the reading speed to attain full comprehension of the text.

>> No.19610427

>>19609603
>you don't like what I like because you don't know Japanese
You really have issues coping with people having a different sense than you. Not everyone loses his mind over To Love-Ru jokes.

>> No.19610452

>>19610420
That's a real bad suggestion.
On the contrary, the use of a dictionary should be encouraged when reading literary works.

>> No.19610459

>>19610420
That's a pretty good indicator, I suppose.

>>19610421
That's a good point as well. I find that some scenes lose emotional impact if I read them too slowly. Back to reading kusoge for me.

>> No.19610490

>>19610452
>On the contrary, the use of a dictionary should be encouraged when reading literary works.

Texthooker =/= dictionary. If you see a very rare specialized word you don't know, just look it up, duh. If it happens often enough that you'd need a texthooker, you're not there yet.

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>>19610459
Have fun.

>> No.19610550

Anyone else read the MCs lines out loud to better immerse themselves or am i just weird? Find its good way to keep my pronunciation in shape.

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>>19610494
>not デース at the end

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>>19610593
I self inserts as Daniel デス。Makes the netorare netori instead. Makes up for the lack of netori titles.(if you guys know any hit me with titles)

>> No.19610807

>>19610490
Is there any difference today? The e-books have the dictionary incorporated, so it's almost seamless to use it.

>> No.19610820

>>19610550
From time to time, it gets boring easily.

>> No.19610827

What should your average WPM be to approach interpreting and understanding SubaHibi on anything but a surface level?

>> No.19610834

>>19610779
yarichin ntr houkoku

>> No.19610841

>>19610779
Is your name Daniel as well? I myself also look like him. Just a little less buff, different hair color, different skin color, different eye color and such. But it's pretty much the same!

>> No.19610881

>>19610820
i guess, not like i read out loud the entire time, and it depends on the title (something like inochi no spare or eden i did the whole thing + monologues, routes in gin haru like 30% of the time)

>>19610841
Nope, only similarity is skin tone.... If anything im closer to the Japanese guy getting cucked in like everything besides skins tone....... I like the ones with the tanned yarichin delinquents more, cause im basically that -the yarichin.

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>>19610834
Will this masterpiece ever be surpassed?

>> No.19610947

>>19610834
>yarichin ntr houkoku
i have already wanked to the cgs on e-hentai but thank you.

>> No.19611036

>>19610947
what's the point of asking for recs for the most literary fetish when you just fap to the cgs? just look at any drawing with sex and imagine you are the one doing the deed and the woman already has another guy somewhere

also midsummer night's dream is like the OG NTR

>> No.19611049

>>19611036
Internets too shite (300kbs if im lucky) to dl every nukige that peaks my interest.

>> No.19611056

>>19610947
>wanked to the cgs on e-hentai
Only people who don't know Japanese do this.

>> No.19611071

>>19611056
not like i read NTR nukige much anyway(ill usually end up skipping to the H scenes), full speed auto and hearing her admit sex with you is better than her husband/bf is enough for me honestly.

>> No.19611254

>>19611071
You're missing on the greatest literary work about NTR. The CGs by themselves don't do any justice.

And then some complain about text-hookers. At least they try to read and improve their Japanese...

>> No.19611277

>>19611049
Piques.

>> No.19611295

>>19611049
that's fast enough to download like 3-5 nukige every day while you sleep + work

fact is, you're just an impatient fuck. there's no problem with that, but I'm not sure why you'd bother asking for recommendations if you really just do what you say in >>19611071

just use the tags on vndb and skip around to your heart's content

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19611337

Why are Japanese wageslaves such sad people?

>> No.19611341

>>19611254
i mean i read regular eroge, nukige i end up reading when im already horny so i tend to just skip to the sex.

>>19611277
yeah realised after posting.

>>19611295
True. I stopped reading netorare properly since i would feel like shit after the wank and uninstall, so i asked for netori, but yeah i can just search tags.

>> No.19611721

>>19610807
A texthooker is ultimately just a tool, it's just one that triggers people here.

>> No.19611855

Why is japan so weird? I'm reading a moege with mc being with a girl and I would literally never think or act any of those things.
Why is Japan so focused on forcing feminity? I've seen it all in most anime too.

>> No.19611887

>>19611337
I liked her character design

>> No.19611903

>>19611855
> any of those things
Such as?

>> No.19611910

>>19611855
Cause their thing is being weird and quirky and shit dude it's the only thing that keeps the gaijin money fresh and coming how else are they gonna pay for the gaijin destruction virus

>> No.19611917

>>19611855
What things wouldn't you think?

>> No.19611927

>>19611855
maybe you're just a boring dude.
>forcing femininity
this smells like your own cultural bias at play. embrace the other

>> No.19612076

I still don't understand why the fuck this thread hate text hookers that much, like wtf unless you're a native you don't start being a master in japanese, I needed use text hooking by 3 years straight to read(slowly) my first manga without furigana, not to say the 2~3 years using romaji as furigana to then change to hiragana and at last after 4 years using text hooker I could read without any help and I'm not a bit shamed by it as I racked my brain out at the start to understand and learn the fucking language (not to say I needed to learn by half a year english first to then even start thinking of reading japanese)

It just triggers me the autism of many of this thread that just attack without reason the learners of this stupid hard language(to this day I still hate the kanjis), one thing is being an EOP and other is reading untranslated VNs with the help of something (heck, I still use camera app of google to look for the definition of unknown kanji) , which I don't see a problem why they couldn't be in this thread.

>> No.19612137

>>19612076
Not gonna lie, I thought this was a reddit repost at first.

>> No.19612203

>>19612137
It's a definitely a post from a redditor at least, that's for sure.

>> No.19612208

Other than Cyrano de Bergerac and the complete works of Lewis Carroll, Kenji Miyazawa and Ludwig Wittgenstein, what else should I read in preparation for Subahibi?

>> No.19612220

>>19612208
Read his new LN, just so you can be one of the only people in the world who read his LN before Subahibi.

>> No.19612229

>>19612076
People are reactionary here against anything relating to the learning of Japanese or implying less than fluent skill level. Partially because it's just off topic, partially because of retarded invaders from /djt/. Don't worry about it too much, just talk about VNs here.

>> No.19612236

>>19612076
>text hooking manga
What?

>> No.19612245

>>19612208
You forgot about the Kojiki, fool. At this rate you won't be able to even superficially interpret Subahibi with your amateurish Japanese.

>> No.19612247

Thoughts on みにくいモジカの子?

>> No.19612255

>>19612236
nigga got hooked on dem hookerz shieet

>> No.19612284

Do any of you who read in Japanese notice that for certain routes in the same novel there are writing style changes?

>> No.19612293

>>19611903
>>19611927
>>19611917
See, no matter how hard you try to go against my post, you will almost always sound like you never been with a girl in your life.

>> No.19612295

>>19612284
That's because VNs have different writers, they usually split routes between different writers.

>> No.19612300

>>19612284
Absolutely. Sometimes it can be pretty dramatic, like in Himanatsu and Supreme Candy.

>> No.19612302

>>19612255
aye they be draggin' us under no love for a hoe

>> No.19612307

I didn't see ひょっとして at all in the last route.
Now it's literally everywhere. Writer's preferences, eh?

>> No.19612316

>>19612284
Why did you feel like you had to add the "who read in Japanese"? This is an untranslated VN thread.

>> No.19612324
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Are there any good VNs outside of the Hanabira series where you play as a dyke?

>> No.19612325

>>19612316
Because I was about to post it in /vn/ but realized I shouldn't since it's unrelated . I never cared about such things like personality changes before I started reading original source.

>> No.19612330

>>19612293
Just give examples anon

>> No.19612334

>>19612295
This just made me feel like shit. Like visual novels are targeted at the worst, they don't even have a concise writer for the whole thing.

>> No.19612335

>>19612325
You should probably go back there.

>> No.19612336

>>19612334
Some do, though most don't

>> No.19612342

>>19612335
What you gonna do if I don't? You should stop shitting the thread.

>> No.19612343

>>19612324
Wonderful Everyday

>> No.19612344

Will you guys read my VN if I write it in Japanese?

>> No.19612347

>>19612342
Who's shitting up the thread, EOP?

>> No.19612351

>>19612344
I can't read Japanese but I'm gonna texthook it.

>> No.19612362

>>19612347
You with your stupid, baseless words. Fresh people are good for the actual discussion while you shit inside.

>> No.19612365

>>19610040

>> No.19612372

Prove you're fluent.

>> No.19612375

>>19610143
He is probably of some kind of asian descent. They're all vile creatures.

>> No.19612377

>>19612372
I have read Subahibi.

>> No.19612382

>>19612372
俺わ日本

>> No.19612388

>>19612377
You think you did, but you did not, EOP.

>> No.19612395

>>19612377
But have you interpreted and understood it on anything but a surface level?

>> No.19612401

>>19612395
No because it's targeted at 14 year olds. Stop acting hard while you read kid's stuff.
You too. >>19612347

>> No.19612409

Just because I'm not perfect at Japanese yet doesn't mean I can't read VNs

>> No.19612413

Language wanking belongs in the designated language wanking thread (which is a shithole for the obvious reasons). Please don't bring it here.

>> No.19612417

>>19612413
Doesn't mean everyone in the thread here has to LARP being native-level fluent.

>> No.19612427

What's the best VN where you get dommed by a futanari girl(s)?

>> No.19612722

>>19612208
sca-ji's twitter

>> No.19612734

>>19612722
*moogy's twitter

>> No.19612746

>>19612401
>targeted at 14 year olds
It literally contains porn.

>> No.19612749

Why are DJT EOPs so afraid of the idea of someone actually being able to read Japanese?

>> No.19612752

>>19612749
You don't know Japanese.

>> No.19612758

>>19612746
So? 14 year olds love porn.

>> No.19612761

>>19612758
You might want to brush up on common sense knowledge of the law.

>> No.19612762

>>19612752
>>>/DJT/

>> No.19612765

>>19612762
Why are you directing me to a board that doesn't exist? By the way, I know Japanese.

>> No.19612778

>>19612765
I'm not sure your low N2 counts.

>> No.19612800

>>19612778
If you seriously think about skill level in terms of JLPT grades...

>> No.19612810 [DELETED] 

>>19612800
What at least somewhat objective else is there, N2-kun?

I could tell you that I live in Japan and attend an university course fully in Japanese, but that's ultimately relative and hard to compare to other achievements. And this isn't my blog anyway, N2-pal.

>> No.19612993

>>19612137
Now that you say it I realized that my post at first sounded a bit like some reddit copy-pastes lol
>>19612247
If you like Asou Ei (Euphoria, Natsu no Kusari) it might be your taste, but that aside is over-the-top and the heroines are shit except one (and the decent one isn't the main heroine), in a nutshell it had potential but the vn fucked everything it could shine except make feel you like shit (if you could empathize a bit with the bad written mc)
tldr: don't have big expectations if you want to play it.
>>19612236
I was refering that after about 3 years learning japanese through text hooking I could read a manga that doesn't have furigana (usagi drop)
>>19612382
Not gonna lie, I lol'd

>> No.19613011

>>19612761
I don't think subahibi is targeted to 14 year old either but I think that a negligible amount of people really start to watch porn at 18 years nowadays.

>> No.19613165

>>19612778
>JLPT
lol

>> No.19613226

>>19613165
I guess it's pointless for someone like you.

>> No.19613230

>>19613011
That doesn't have to do with what "targeted at" means.

>> No.19613319

>>19613226
Its pointless for anyone on this entire website. Test scores like that are meant for resumes in order to get jobs, so the instant people talk about them they out themselves as normalfags.

>> No.19613376

>>19613230
You can secretly (or not so secretly) target something for one audience and just say it's for another.

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>>19598195
>Thoughts on More games?
I'm going to include puremore and Niko games here, but they are all drama fests at heart with a 'chad' MC. I fucking hate the mysterious heroines they've recently started including, from GoldenHour's Yuki to Graffiti's Saya.

Golden Hour is complete and utter garbage and I refuse to go any further than that. I'm not very far into Graffiti yet, but holy fuck the MC is nearly as bad a manwhore as Makoto was in School Days. Seeing how the MC Ryou treats Nana as a walking onahole while repeatedly having flashbacks to his former gf (who was a complete dickbag as well) is infuriating.

More/puremore/niko protagonists are in my experience nearly as bad as this douche. They ALL cause drama by not explaining things properly and cause tons of misunderstandings.

>>19600817
I fucking hate these types of heroines. Yuki and Saya are almost copies of one another except for a few minor differences. I'd go as far to say that I liked the side heroines better just because they seem human despite having tons of problems themselves.

>>19600376
You talking about the Teddy bear game from More/Kate, or the Kiss&Crisis game? If it is the latter, I'm also looking forward to it - it looks like all the heroines are adults this time, which might be interesting rather than another school rehash.

Pic related, twintail main heroine(?) of Kiss&Crisis.

>> No.19613394

>>19613319
Yeah, I want to get a job. Possibly even in Japan, once I graduate.

>> No.19613419

>>19613394
That's nice, but nobody in /jp/ outside of DJT (which isn't really part of /jp/ anyway) has ever given two shits about JLPT, so go wave it around in /int/ or something.

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>>19613377
The only thing I truly like about their games is the H-scenes and art in said H. Specifically, the way the artist uses "evening lighting" or light from incandescent bulbs to give it a different feeling from normal fluorescent spotlights shining on the character during H.

Also, more/puremore/niko is the only studio I know of that uses 'pseudo-animation' with two CGs going back and forth to simulate how sex looks rather than just showing a static position that never changes except. When I can find a scene that shows this off without getting banned I'll try to make an example webm.

As for 少女グラフィティ specifically, this game is almost a nukige in how often H is shown. The game even opens up starting with H, so it doesn't even try to hide it. 2 of the 3 heroines are also sex friends with the MC, although one of those heroines (Nana) doesn't really deserve being treated like that as she's a good girl. The other heroine though (Saya), the 'mysterious' one, she's a piece of shit that always deflects MC questioning her with sex and even though I haven't even reached the first choice in the game I'm already tired of her shit. At least Golden Hour's Yuki didn't spread her legs until her route started ffs.

The only saving grace for me is that it looks like the third heroine (Toushouguu Akemi) isn't a complete slut like the other two, but I'm probably wrong and she turns into a slut in her route or something.

Also I did find it mildly interesting how this title uses a Persona 5-esque for the menus and backlog. Goes to show how bankrupt their creativity is, at least.

>> No.19613552

What's wrong with mysterious girls?

>> No.19613614

>>19613552
hard to write well, easy to fuck up and cause plot holes

>> No.19613698

>>19598195
I like them since some of their games are weirdly subversive in some aspects, although they're really getting low budget recently.

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>>19613519
>>19613377
The heroines are supposed to be flawed, and the MC being a piece of shit that gets to confront it eventually is a common theme in MORE's games and the Shoujo series specifically. You might not like that but that doesn't make the games shit. I can agree with budget and writing/pacing issues though.

>As for 少女グラフィティ specifically, this game is almost a nukige in how often H is shown
That's because it is a nukige. pure more is MORE's nukige brand.

>> No.19613790

>>19613732
>pacing issues
I'm only about 4-5 hours into Graffiti and holy shit the pacing. I swear I've already seen multiple flashbacks, from '1 year ago' to '2 years ago' and it is hard to tell when exactly they end sometimes.

This is my first puremore game so I didn't realize it was their nukige brand. Guess I should read some of pure's older titles. I'll probably start with この恋、青春により and work my way backwards. Not sure how much I can handle of these constant school life titles though, that's one of the reasons I'm looking forward to Kiss&Crisis at least, that at least look like it has an adult MC and heroines.

>> No.19613988

>>19613790
*More's older titles

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>>19613732
would you reccomend any of the other MORE and co titles if i liked golden hour and himawari to koi no kioku? The vndb scores are pretty low for their 1st 2 games.

>> No.19614130
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Next Clochette. Looks like Oshiki.

https://clochette-soft.jp/html/event/img/event_pic_c94_1.jpg

>> No.19614132

>>19614084
vndb scores mean nothing

>> No.19614192

>>19614130
Figured it would be Oshiki next. I prefer Shintaro as an artist overall, but Oshiki is very good too.

>> No.19614680

>>19595778
I got 4 sisters and I have the brain capacity to separate reality from fiction and enjoy my reads.

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>>19614680
>I got 4 sisters

>> No.19614725

Please stop asking for texthooker advice in this thread.

>> No.19614790

>>19612334
>concise writer
How new are you to this whole visual novel thing anyway? The knowledge that many vns have multiple writers is something I'd expect most people to learn fairly early on.

>> No.19614805

>>19613376
If you're targeting your product at an audience that can't legally purchase it you need to rethink your business model.

>> No.19614883

>>19614725
>texthooker advice
Is NextHooker a good replacement for ITH?

>> No.19614907

>>19614725
/djt/ is too braindead to help anyone with anything. This is probably the best place to ask, since the majority of posters likely have some texthooker experience whether they want to admit it or not.

>> No.19614916

>>19614725
Perhaps you should try adding a rule to the OP if it offends your sensibilities so much. That's what generals do when they don't like certain topics shitting up their threads.

>> No.19614948

>>19614883
>no TTS support
I'll stay with VNR.

>> No.19614969

>>19614948
What do you even use TTS for? Issuing commands to the client or something? Or do you turn off the native voices and let TTS convert it into robo-speech?

>> No.19614997

>>19614969
I suppose it could also turn unvoiced lines into voiced lines, to give the narrator/MC a 'voice' as well.

>> No.19615019

>>19614883
>>19614907
>>19614948
>>19614969
>>19614997
Oh the lengths you'll go to avoid really learning Japanese.

>> No.19615038

>>19615019
If you had "really learned" Japanese as you say, you probably wouldn't be hanging around here and yet here you are. We're all fakes anyways in the eyes of a native Japanese.

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>> No.19615087

>>19615019
If it takes longer to look up words you don't know, does that make the learning more real? Or are you never supposed to look up word at all?

>> No.19615092

>>19614916
Do this please, whoever remakes. This is not the place for this shit

>> No.19615095

>>19615092
People shouldn't ask language questions, but I don't see the issue with texthooker ones.

>> No.19615108 [DELETED] 

>>19615087
>If it takes longer to look up words you don't know, does that make the learning more real?

Mhm.


>>19615092
It'll only rile the subhumans more.

>> No.19615113

>>19615108
>Mhm
How so?

>> No.19615116

>>19615038
This is a thread about eroge. I hang out here to discuss eroge, not your terrible level of Japanese.

>>19615113
You'll have more incentive to actually learn.

>> No.19615120

>>19615095
I concur, there's nothing inherently wrong with texthookers unless you rely on ATLAS or something similar to "translate" for you as that can easily become a crutch. However, using something like JParser or Mecab to break down the sentence into its parts, I can't see the harm in that.

>> No.19615141

>>19615120
>using something like JParser or Mecab to break down the sentence into its parts

Sounds like a crutch to me.

>> No.19615145

>>19615116
>You'll have more incentive to actually learn.
Not really. It's true that spending more time and work on a songle action will help boost memory, but the difference is pretty negligible in this context, and I and anyone who is actually trying to learn anything save the words for later study anyway. I'd rather prioritize not ruining the flow of the story when looking up an unknown word.

>> No.19615150

>>19615120
If you need help to parse a sentence you're not good enough at Japanese to read VNs yet, desu

>> No.19615151

>>19615145
>I'd rather prioritize not ruining the flow of the story when looking up an unknown word.

Rather ironic that you seem to care about enjoying a story, yet you're trying to read it with a subpar level of Japanese that necessitates you looking up numerous words.

Don't you think your low level of Japanese hampers your understanding and thus enjoyment?

Reddit, Fuwanovel and DJT probably tell you that no, but do you want to listen to them?

>> No.19615158

>>19615087
>If it takes longer to look up words you don't know
If you're looking up words so often that the amount of time it takes is a concern, you aren't really reading anything.

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In other news, CisLugI -シスラギ- seems to be the Comiket release getting the most attention.

http://nextvillage.sakura.ne.jp/

>> No.19615170

Holy shit, more than half of the discussions here are pure trolling or hooker related. How the fuck did it happen?

>> No.19615174

>>19615170
People keep bringing it up. It doesn't belong to this thread. Don't bring it up and problem solved.

>> No.19615177

>>19615145
Like the other guy said, if you're worried about "not ruining the flow of the story" you should probably wait until you're at a level where you almost never need to look words up.

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>>19614969
I got used to Show-san always voicing the protagonist/narrator. This basically turns VNs into pseudo-audiobooks.

>> No.19615184

>>19615151
>Don't you think your low level of Japanese hampers your understanding and thus enjoyment?
Not to the extent that I don't enjoy reading, no. It takes a little longer to understand than if I was fluent sure, but it's usually just a matter of inserting X word into the sentence and moving on. I also don't see a better way to improve than by getting reading experience and exposing myself to many new vocabulary in various contexts. I don't see what the issue is with making this slightly easier for myself

>> No.19615191

>>19615170
People get triggered by hookers here.

>> No.19615194

>>19615174
How about you don't fucking respond to them and they either get ignored or get their help in 1 post and move on? Yet again, retards who don't understand how to filter and hide posts while feeling the need to provocatively voice their distaste at every single texthooking post end up more than tripling the amount of off-topic posts. People asking for texthooking help either get it or don't and are gone. Why the fuck do you need to start shit every single time? At this point it's almost like you're just trying to look like some elitist more than anything else. Actually fuck off.

>> No.19615200

>>19615194
>People asking for texthooking help either get it or don't and are gone.

But you're still here.

>> No.19615206

>>19615194
This place is hugely elitist. The posters here have developed large egos over learning Japanese, and are enraged by the idea of filthy EOPs or those with subar Japanese skills touching their VNs with their inferior understanding. Leave if you don't like it, it's not changing.

>> No.19615221

i text hook and you can't stop me i barely know the kana and i don't use capitalization and you can't stop me

>> No.19615223

>>19615206
I bet you're a star back home on /r/visualnovels.

>> No.19615234

>>19615223
I never said they were wrong to look down on /djt/fags.

>> No.19615242

I use VNs to help me learn Japanese and you can't stop me.

>> No.19615243

>>19615170
The autists got tilted by questions about h-codes and it became a discussion if I recall correctly.
>>19615150
Are you aware of how stupid that sound?Ages ago I literally started reading vns with 0 japanese knowledge and just the text hooker with mecab, and I could understand (obviously less than now) and enjoy the vns, I'm still awed by the autism of the "elitists" of freaking eroges, as if it were something like 純文学 lul

>> No.19615259

>>19615234
Cool. Let's keep it up then.

>> No.19615261

>>19615243
Parsing sentences is a fairly basic skill that you should naturally have picked up before seriously trying to read anything long. I'm not one to say never read VNs until you can do it perfectly, but jumping into them with no basic knowledge seems dumb and inefficient. Nice if that worked for you but I certainly don't recommend it.

>> No.19615264

What are some eroge you can't texthook so I know what to avoid?

>> No.19615267

>>19615264
Texthooking is a myth. It won't work on any VN you try.

>> No.19615293

>>19615243
>as if it were something like 純文学 lul
It's ok if you're a moebuta, but some of us prefer to read actual literature by the likes of Romeo-sama and Mareni-hakase.

>> No.19615299

>>19615293
You gotta read moe before you can move on to real literature

>> No.19615348

>>19615261
If you never did it don't speak like you know it, obviously it depends on the vn and writer but after reading one or less vn you get the parsing instinct , at least in my case I got it after I played Rance Quest and some of Harvest Festa, with only some instinct that I got watching anime with subtitles(yeah, it really helps after years of watching that shit)
It's always laughable the people who say that someone can't learn japanese through x method, like fuck off if you tried you could learn with whatever shit you want and how effective it is is subjective.
>>19615293
Your autism got to the level of not understanding contexts? I was talking about someone not knowing to parse, obviously he won't go to read muramasa or some shit like that at first run, and the ones that are hard to read are sparse and even them don't get to a junbungaku level or something that really need you really high level or Japanese (there could be exceptions tho)
btw Mareni don't use complex Japanese, at most I remember it had a few recherché terms but that's all.

>> No.19615362

>>19615348
I didn't say you can't, I said it's less efficient, because it is.

>> No.19615455

>>19615170
Oh god, how we find the the pedophilic hot takes on lolige now?

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is chiitrans for furigana acceptable?

>> No.19615507

>>19615480
Furigana is never acceptable.

>> No.19615516

>>19615507
guess i can live without it.

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Is she right, /jp/?

>> No.19615852

Maybe a long shot, but does anyone have the Japanese version of STEINS;GATE 変移空間のオクテット (SG 8bit)?

>> No.19615979

>>19615843
Cute belly.

>> No.19615999

>>19615843
Depends if her belly returns to that cute form after birth or not.

>> No.19616005

>>19615843
>どうせあんただってそうでしょ?男なんて妊娠させたらもう興味無くなるんだから

No.

>> No.19616026

>>19616005
What OCR program did you use?

>> No.19616053

>>19616026
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.translate&hl=en

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>chosing vns with your dick

>> No.19616217

>>19615184
Personally I'm fine with just looking at the pictures and making up my own story. It's a lot easier than reading.

>> No.19616232

Reminder that if you ever think of another language than Japanese while reading VNs, you're not actually reading what's written.

>> No.19616298

>>19615852
http://old.4otaku.org/post/1800

>> No.19616313

>>19616298
Thanks.

>> No.19616538

>>19616232
i think,eat and poo in Japanese when i read VNs.

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>>19616232
Sorry. It's a very hard task.

>> No.19616693

>>19616232
No shit retard

>> No.19618208

I hope August is the next company to go bankrupt.

>> No.19618231

>>19618208
Maybe their next game won't be as retarded as senmomo.

>> No.19618297

I hope Elf is the next company to go bankrupt.

>> No.19618385

I hope frontwing is the next company to go bankrupt.

>> No.19618869

I hope 4chan is the next company to go bankrupt.

>> No.19618891

>>19618869
What ya gonna be then? A Kraut?

>> No.19618908

I unironically hope key is the next company to go bankrupt.

>> No.19618935

>>19618908
Why?

>> No.19618984

I hope Lilith is the next company to go bankrupt.

>> No.19619094

>>19612993
>If you like Asou Ei (Euphoria, Natsu no Kusari) it might be your taste, but that aside is over-the-top and the heroines are shit except one (and the decent one isn't the main heroine), in a nutshell it had potential but the vn fucked everything it could shine except make feel you like shit (if you could empathize a bit with the bad written mc)
>tldr: don't have big expectations if you want to play it.

That's a real shame because the VN has a god-tier premise with tons of possibilities.
I guess this is the nukige Vio said he always wanted to make.

>> No.19619107

>>19615170
The main problem is that most of the people that were actually actively discussing things on here have either left entirely or just moved to discord or twitter, meaning that the majority remaining is just a bunch of shitposters and trolls. Honestly, looking at threads from years ago it's kind of shocking how much this place has changed.

>> No.19619186

>>19618984
Seeing how well they're doing now, not a chance in hell.

>> No.19619824

I liked mojika.

>> No.19619834

What do you guys think of the new voice actress for Asagi?

http://www.lilith-soft.com/event/c94lilith/sample/asagi_mp03.mp3

I think she's エロ可愛い as fuck. Wonder how the voice actress must feel like to be given the role of such a prominent hentai character. Especially since it seems she's a rather new artist, either that or she's using an alias.

>> No.19619898

>>19619824
Mojika is the kind of game that isn't going to be popular due to the subject matter. To me it's a lot like Fraternité.
Sacrificing likability of heroines tends to do that since VNs are mostly remembered for their heroines.

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I hate this character.

>> No.19620102

>>19620001
Whats he done

>> No.19620131

>>19620102
Being a little annoying side character

>> No.19620238

>>19612993
I really liked Natsu no Kusari.

>> No.19620360

>>19619898
You know, that makes sense.

>> No.19620922

I hope Liarsoft is the next company to go bankrupt

>> No.19620947

>>19620922
I think they're owned by a privately wealthy guy who doesn't really care about turning a profit from it, so I doubt they're in any real danger.

>> No.19621187

I hope Type-Moon is the next company to go bankrupt

>> No.19621413

>>19621187
This

>> No.19621699

>>19621187
Now that's plainly impossible.

>> No.19622210

Any1 has an itch.io cud 4 Sakura no Uta?

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