[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/jp/ - Otaku Culture


View post   

File: 21 KB, 294x171, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204174 No.12204174 [Reply] [Original]

Anyone think the laws of cp would draatically ramp up to 2020 olympics? Was casually sitting round watching the news and maybe like the billionth report on Japanese animeh ran for a while, condemning people who like graphic illustrations.

>> No.12204176

I think we can at least be fairly certain that Akihabara will never be the same. It's already a lot "cleaner" than it once was.

>> No.12204178

Can I still go upstairs and buy all the loli porn and nukige I want? If so, I don't care. If so, then, I guess maybe we have a problem.

>> No.12204179

>>12204176
It's weird, CNN seems one sided on it. I wonder if bbc or al jazera has a stance on it.

>> No.12204182

>>12204178
Yeah, I really doubt the top-floor stuff will go away. But, for example, I once walked into a store right off the main street and immediately saw a huge rack of junior idol bikini videos with the age ranges proudly displayed on the front (U-11!!! etc.)

I don't think that'll last.

>> No.12204186

>>12204174
3D out of existence.

Let 2D consume the entire world.

>> No.12204198

>>12204182

Nor should it. That's pedo shit. 2D loli is fine, actual children in skimpy clothes is no good.

>> No.12204203
File: 77 KB, 320x320, 22184126.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204203

>>12204182
I suppose I should be content to have the top floor stuff go away, but it still saddens me that, by the time I will have the money to visit, some of it's going to be sanitized. And I doubt that it'll be confined within the one country either, with shit like the TPP happening. 2D is going to get caught up in some government sweep in the near future, I fear. Some /jp/sies will wind up getting shivved in jail because they jacked off to cartoons.

おわり

>> No.12204207

>>12204198
Someone's a bit judging. It certainly won't disappear, worst that can happen is that it's not as openly marketed. Then again, there's nothing inherently wrong with it.

>> No.12204229

>>12204198

You aren't any less a pedo for liking 2D based off 3D images, hypocrite.

>> No.12204230

>>12204229

Only one of those things involves the exploitation of a living, breathing child.

>> No.12204243

>>12204230

There is no exploitation because it isn't child pornography and harmless. You can keep pretending you don't like the real thing because your /a/bros told you not to.

>> No.12204255

>>12204230
A photograph is not a living, breathing child. It is not like a junior idol is sitting in my room and I stare at her while I masturbate.

>> No.12204290
File: 91 KB, 385x385, Only the dead can know peace from this evil.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204290

>>12204203
Any city/country where a big event such as the Olympics and World Cup takes place, will be "sanitized"; the local laws bended and made invalid, to match the interests of the ones getting profits.
Like how this time, FIFA made Brazil let them sell beer inside the stadium (when they had made it illegal about 11 years ago). It is natural for them to want to have a proper and "clean" place for making business.

So, better go buy whatever you want asap, and download everything you need.


Things can only get worse from now on, and not only because of the Olympics, Japan wants to try and save their dying demography, and killing 2D waifus may be part of the answer. And don't forget how the rest of the world has been progressing down the path of making even 2D lolis illegal for a while now.
It wouldn't surprise me to wake up and see ex-hentai seized by FBI someday.

>> No.12204366
File: 229 KB, 666x981, fsadfdsaf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204366

CNN, definitely not biased. Nope, no way they could ever be biased.

>http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/18/world/asia/japan-manga-anime-pornography/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

>> No.12204387

>>12204366
I can't play the video.

What's top floor stuff?

>> No.12204390

>>12204387
I'm not disabling NoScript and letting those CIA scum into my computer with their JavaScript backdoors.

>> No.12204396

>>12204390
What? What's top floor stuff?

>> No.12204415

It's like Akira, except society is boring and there aren't superfluous metal architectural elements everywhere

>> No.12204420 [SPOILER] 
File: 82 KB, 407x599, 1403077996532.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204420

>>12204366

>> No.12204434

>>12204366
Heh, if I didn't know any better, I'd say that that was a general-audiences manga that they have censored there. None of the other books look like porn manga does.

Highlarious.

>> No.12204450

Al Jazera seems fair. They're just reporting on it.

>> No.12204463

>>12204290
To be honest, ExHentai already breaks numerous laws involving copyright and legal evasion, so its not like they would be removed just because of loli.

>> No.12204482

The future of 2d looks grim, I doubt these shitters will stop just at the most explicit material, this will have effects from the top down.

>> No.12204492

>>12204290
Agreed. Japan has also introduced law to make possession of PeeCee in 1 year a criminal offence. The need to have US Marines protect Japan from Chinese bullying is cultural genocide for Japan. Lot at this wonderful (legal) torrent and weep for Japanese culture.

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/8323255/_Vintage_90s_Japanese_magazine_scans_(88_issues)

>> No.12204499

Where will YOU go when everything you love is crushed by normals?

>> No.12204508

>>12204482
Console yourself with the fact that you lived through the golden age, then end your life.

>> No.12204509

>>12204492
I am pretty sure it was liberal Japanese activists who managed to push that law through.

Outside of Otaku Culture, people are either indifferent or against lolicon in general. The only reason it has stuck around is because of intense lobbying by VN and porn game creators, and the generally conservative nature of Japanese politics and society.

>> No.12204511

>>12204508
The golden age was in the 80s.

>> No.12204515

>>12204499
Autismbucks and go live alone in the country. Lift weights, read ebooks and never, ever have kids. Normals can keep their hell going without my help.

>> No.12204516

>>12204509
No there are no "liberal" Japanese activists. This is Japan needing to be as Americanised as possible so that any American President can't walk away from them and treaties a la Ukraine 1990

>> No.12204536

>>12204499
I shall reign death and destruction on the normals.

In all seriousness the world is just becoming a more boring and standardized place. America with its puritan bullshit just needs to fuck off. Country can't even be bothered to provide healthcare for all of its fucking citizens and they think they can tell the rest of the world about morals?

>> No.12204543

>>12204516
There's liberals wherever there are whiny, hypersensitive shitstains that feel the urge to ruin everyone's fun.

>> No.12204545

>>12204482
The question remains how strict the laws is, what it defines as explicit and how much it will be enforced.

This might all be just window dressing to appease the libtard puritans of the West and get the off their back.

After all against it stands a pretty big lobby with pretty big money, it might even get voted out in time if a shift in power happens.

>> No.12204575

>>12204366
>Took a hidden camera

would have been easier just to take a normal camera. Artists might have even given them free copies is they tought they would get publicity

>> No.12204577

I get the feeling that the doujinshi featured in this image >>12204366
is actually just an ordinary erodoujin, and is hardly loli at all. I bet that if you got rid of that censor blur, you'd notice that they're hiding huge, gigantic tits.

This wouldn't be the first time CNN has tried to put a bullshit spin on something, so I'm definitely skeptical about their little "hidden camera" story.

>> No.12204580
File: 100 KB, 640x360, 1403066357631.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204580

>>12204577
Yesterday CNN made a similar report on the recent ruling in Japan in their TV broadcasts. Guess what image they used to depict "evil loli anime and manga"? A shop's listing of the prices of Visual Novel games, most of which were hardly ero, let alone loli.

CNN's trying to make anime and manga look like the new "big bad", and given the general audience CNN has, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone eats all this shit up.

http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/108983404/

>> No.12204589

>>12204366
>around 2:20 CNN start secretly filming young kids butts with no permission for B-roll knowing they can legally get away with it

>still outraged by niche drawings and can't provide a single physical link between sexual violence and loli drawings

>focus on 1st world nonissues of comic books as being horrible and evil instead of looking at cultures that marry young children away or have massive sex trafficking industries

Oh, CNN. The feigned outrage and dishonest things you do in the name of viewership is truly representative of modern journalism.

>> No.12204590
File: 24 KB, 800x320, PoylbL9.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204590

Normals need to mind their own fucking business. Can't we just live in peace?

This reminds me of some douche reporter for a local news who did a SHOCKING EXPOSE on the sex comics in the local library (Ikkitousen). It was so irritating.

>> No.12204591
File: 44 KB, 730x628, payne_wrecking_normies.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204591

Peter Payne wrecking these stupid normies, and telling it like he is. Say what you want about J-List (I don't like that site either), but you have to admit that Peter is correct here.

Screenshot taken from the comments section here:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/17/world/asia/japan-child-porn-law/index.html?hpt=ias_c1

>> No.12204595

>>12204415
Also, ESP is not real. Why do we get all the bullshit?

>> No.12204599

and video games cause violent behavior amiright

>> No.12204605

I don't know how 2D loli could ever make anyone feel the need to perform acts on a child. Children are disgusting little beasts that love to destroy things and kill things that are weaker than them. I can't imagine that it would be rewarding or an accomplishment to ruin a child's entire life by molesting them either. How could you live with yourself?

Lolis take these things out of the equation. They are everything you want, and nothing you don't. They are a perfectly healthy sexual interest.

>> No.12204607

>>12204595
Yeah, real life is fucking gay

>> No.12204608

>>12204605
b-but muh morals!

>> No.12204614

>>12204577
That's the problem, how do you define what is "loli"?

Is it the stated age of the character? Is it the way it is drawn, how it acts, how it speaks?

Where do you draw the line exactly in a medium with such stylized characters?

>> No.12204615

We should spread the radiation boogeyman all over the normies so Olympics are cancelled.

>> No.12204619

>>12204615
We don't even need to do that, all we need to do is invite Shintaro Ishihara to have a 2 hour long discussion on some nationwide American television channel, and he'll do the job for us with his careless remarks. The Olympics will be cancelled overnight, given how sensitive most American families have become.

>> No.12204620

>>12204614
"Characters resembling children", then make the punishment so draconian that no publication would be willing to toe the line. Throw a few people in jail to keep everyone scared and voila, you've marginalized all of lolicon.

>> No.12204624

>>12204620
The law as it is currently is incredibly easy to exploit and fuck people over with.

And even if they did what you say the intent of the law is "protect the children", which, in any case, neither of these two bans would do.

And there is the fact that Japan has one of the lowest numbers of sexual crimes in the world so they are doing something right.

Makes me wonder who is really behind pushing such a ban.

>> No.12204625

I hate how these news always destroy my peace of mind.

>> No.12204626

>>12204624
Certainly not jews

>> No.12204627

>>12204624
foreigners

>> No.12204628

>>12204624
>which neither of these two bans would do
They don't give a shit
>they are doing something right
They don't give a shit

Normies think loli is gross and politicians are happy to comply

>> No.12204629

>>12204366
But that manga he is holding isn't even an ero one.


Why

>> No.12204630

>>12204366
>hidden camera

They're filming people without their consent in a private place? Isn't that a form of rape?

>> No.12204631

>>12204628
I won't say I'm okay with sexualized depictions of IRL children either, but I'd never push for more censorship since that shit never really does anything beside give the government a bigger stick to hit you with.

>> No.12204632

>>12204629
The reporter has to spin the story to meet his social warrior agenda somehow. If the facts aren't on your side, the easiest solution is to outright tell lies.

>> No.12204633

>>12204632
I hope this SJW shit goes out of fashion in the next 10 years before there is no freedom of speech left around to be had.

These faggots don't understand that all they are doing is giving populist, reactionary right wing shitstains more ammo.

>> No.12204634

Should I really torment myself?
Do the fears of Akiba being sanitized have a solid base?

>> No.12204637

>>12204634
It'll happen at least until Olympics end

>> No.12204638

>>12204634
Why would Japan intentionally wreck such a big industry?

>> No.12204641

>>12204638
Because muh thought-crimes!

>> No.12204642

>>12204638
Because they think it's wrecking their country

>> No.12204643

>>12204638
To suck up to the rest of the world. It happens when your country is chosen to host a major international event.

During the months prior to the 2002 FIFA World Cup in Korea/Japan, the authorities in South Korea tried their hardest at hiding undesirable aspects of South Korean society. Peddlers in Seoul that sold dog meat were forbidden to sell in public, with the threat of fines, and so the consumption of dog meat gradually decreased in the leadup to the world cup.

>> No.12204645

If they ban loli manga, then I'll just have to go back to raping actual children.

>> No.12204646

>>12204638
It's not nearly big enough to stand against the distaste of the Japanese public.

>> No.12204648

>>12204646
Japanese public doesn't pay lobbying money.

>> No.12204649

>>12204645
Be careful when you say things like that. 4chan staff don't know whether you're being sarcastic, or serious. You wouldn't want you IP to be passed onto the Feds, would you? Those door knocks sound like terrible horror stories.

>> No.12204650

>>12204646
Truthspeak right here

It's not like even like a minor fraction of the population openly approves of these kinds of things. Probably less than a few hundred thousand people. and that's an extremely generous estimation

>> No.12204652

>>12204643
During the leadup to the 2008 Olympics in China, the government cracked down on floor shitting in public. After the Olympics, they stoppe cracking down, and people are floor shitting again.

There is the chance that after the 2020 Olympics finish, things will be business as usual again.

>> No.12204653

>>12204649
I'm glad we're living in 1980s East Germany all over again, it'll make it easier to kill myself.

>> No.12204654

>>12204645
Please do not rape lolis. Lolis are for hugs and gentle petting, not rape.

>> No.12204657

>>12204650
The issue isn't even who likes this or how in poor taste it is, the issue is freedom of speech, but good luck explaining that to the fuckwits that can't see beyond their own personal outrage.

>> No.12204658

>>12204653
I'm just giving a friendly reminder, anon-kun. You wouldn't want to become the next MadThad, right?

It's no secret that 4chan passes on information to authorities when anons write things like this. You only have to google around to find news reports of anons being arrested for saying things on this website.

>> No.12204659

>>12204652
The Olympics are 6 years away still. If they keep on ramping up will there be an industry left afterwards?

>> No.12204660

>>12204605
I don't know how anyone can be retarded enough to make the claim that 2Dloli will make you more attracted to 3D lolis and make moves on them.
How about grown up 2D girls then?
It's an undeniable fact that there are so many men in Japan that prefer to stay to themselves and don't bother with real women. Why would children be suddenly the opposite to that trend?

>> No.12204661

>>12204659
They said the same thing about floor shitting in China, but people in China have not forgotten how to shit on the floor. I don't think a 6+ year silence on loli manga will permanently kill the industry and make everyone forget how to draw loli doujins.

>> No.12204662

>>12204649
I have said that sort of thing here many times, and they haven't gotten me yet and I've never actually went and done it either. I know my rights.

>> No.12204663

>>12204660
The retarded thing is that if you read the CNN report, a bunch of activists in Japan claim that 2D drawings are used to groom real-life children into performing indecent acts. Never mind that these activists give zero evidence, and do not refer to any news reports or court proceedings in the past, and just pull these allegations out of their ass.

>> No.12204664

>>12204661
I'd argue there is considerable difference between shitting on the floor and keeping an industry and its infrastructure afloat for 6 years.

And what if they don't stop at loli and go after "depictions of underage girls" too? What if they punch the industry so hard it decides to commit sudoku the same way American comics did in the 50s?

>> No.12204665

>>12204649
Thank god I don't live in FREEDOMLAND and have to worry about boots in my neck, as soon as I post something outrageous on fucking 4chan.

>> No.12204666

>>12204660
>2Dloli will make you more attracted to 3D lolis

If anything it does the opposite.

>> No.12204667

>>12204658

fuck off with the fear mongering

thad was outed by facebook comments not 4chan comments

>> No.12204669

>>12204667
MadThad was a retard to begin with, and had an USB stick with real CP on him that he bragged about.

>> No.12204671

>>12204658
Did Thad even have anything real?

I think he was just a poor nigger that got framed.

>> No.12204675

>>12204671
Yes, he had around 600 pictures according to the report
https://web.archive.org/web/20111023202802/http://madthad.co.cc/

>> No.12204679

>>12204675
Is the report real? CP is just electrons. They can put those anywhere. It's all just numbers on a computer.

>> No.12204683

>>12204679
>It's all just numbers on a computer.
Try using that excuse when you're in court for possessing classified CIA documents on your computer, in addition to missile launch codes.

Numbers by themselves don't have much meaning, but when you put them together, they gain innate value. I'm pretty sure that the Iranian government would spend millions of dollars to get their hands on "numbers on a computer".

>> No.12204684

>>12204683
Why did you specify Iran?

>> No.12204685

Why is it always white people doing stories and shit like this?

What happened to the racist Korean woman they got to cover Love Plus? At least she was Asian and had some right to have her opinion heard about it even if it was fucking stupid.

>> No.12204686

>>12204684
Because according to the politicians, it's apparently a country that wants to destroy my freedoms.

>> No.12204689

>>12204685
How does being Korean mean you have the right to shit on a videogame about dating virtual girls?

>> No.12204695

>>12204689

Because Korea is a neighbor to Japan and that subculture exists strongly in Korea as a result. It's strong in Hong Kong as wel.

>> No.12204700

>>12204695
Never mind. I thought you were making an argument that because Japanese imperial occupation happened in 1910, and comfort women existed up until 1945, somehow it all relates to romance videogames.

>> No.12204701

>>12204700

What do you think I am? A CNN reporter?

>> No.12204702

>>12204366
Everything "Japan weird" is presented by their corean respondent.

>> No.12204704

This shit makes my blood boil. Fucking Western retards imposing their hypocrite morals on everyone.

>> No.12204706

>>12204702
It's Japan's fault for not giving that CNN correspondent enough apology juice nida.

>> No.12204710

>>12204704
It's not Westerners, it's SJW animals.

>> No.12204713
File: 942 KB, 302x252, 1368064305984.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204713

>> No.12204714

>>12204713
This image offends me so much. Why aren't Americans chasing after this, instead of Japanese 2D drawings.

>> No.12204716

>>12204714
Because those are the million-dollar fat mongoloids that the subnormals eat to.

>> No.12204719

...and BBC joins the bandwagon covering this topic. At least unlike CNN, they don't feel the need to bring social justice nonsense into this, and only discuss the facts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-27898841

Why are British media outlets much more credible and mature?

>> No.12204724
File: 404 KB, 1920x1080, 1403092939389.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204724

"And right now we are ON THE SCENE in Akky-harborah in Tokio, where our CNN informants have told us that there is an ILLEGAL UNDERBELLY of child-oppressing cartoons! Let's investigate."

>> No.12204728

>>12204366
The manga in this picture is non-H.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/DOLLS-FALL-ドールズ・フォール-2-ドラゴンコミックスエイジ/dp/4040701887/

>> No.12204736 [DELETED] 

>>12204719
The kikes want people to be distracted and invested in other people's problems so they won't look at their own problems and try to improve and eventually over throw the kikes and their bullshit

Fucking oven dodgers I swear

>> No.12204739

>>12204511
I meant the golden age of availability rather than production.

>> No.12204740
File: 30 KB, 300x300, 61M1NVXCQoL._SL500_AA300_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204740

>>12204366
That isn't even a doujin....

>> No.12204742

>>12204719
But there is no comment section, how am I supposed to laugh at retarded normalfags?

>> No.12204743

I wonder what the Japanese on 2channel think of all this. Are they aware of the CNN report?

>> No.12204745

Seriously though, let's start spreading radiation fears so that the Olympics move.

>> No.12204747

>>12204743
Chances are something like
>WHITU PIGU GO HOME
>KOREANS
And then 20 replies of whata-muh-face politician who brought those laws in a a bit back.

>> No.12204749
File: 12 KB, 305x177, 1345824065597.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204749

>>12204736
You reap what you sow.

>> No.12204751

>>12204724
I never new Aki Harbor was in Tokio, let alone that there was an underground 2D child porn ring there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokio,_North_Dakota

Scandalous! I'm just glad CNN is there to deliver this important news to me in an unbiased and unexaggerated fashion

>> No.12204753
File: 99 KB, 754x575, 1403094380822.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204753

Someone from the /a/ thread at >>>/a/108995205 found one of the identities of the "specialists" mentioned in CNN's report:

>Mio Bryce, an expert on anime and manga from Macquarie University in Sydney, said Japan's obsession with "kawaii" or cuteness made it difficult to distinguish whether the characters in the material were depicting children or not.

Image related is from her university biography page.

>> No.12204754
File: 19 KB, 851x268, 90YDgsi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204754

>> No.12204755

>>12204751
I cannot believe this is happening in my state

>> No.12204759

>>12204753

Jesus H. Christ

>PhD in Genji Monogatari
>has written a thesis on fucking Fruits Basket
>Studied fucking manga academically
>fucking shittly drawn bio pic

Academia is dead. Journalism is fucking dead. Congrats we're all becoming drooling idiots.

>> No.12204761

>>12204759
She also changed her name, so that she's named after a K-ON.

>> No.12204762

>>12204761
You're retarded. You can say that after you find out what kanji she uses for it.

>> No.12204764

>>12204759
>PhD in Genji Monogatari
That's okay. Kinda.

>has written a thesis on fucking Fruits Basket
>Studied fucking manga academically
>fucking shittly drawn bio pic
Who are you quoting?

>>12204761
She's well aware that Mio is created to serve otaku power fantasy, right?

>> No.12204768

>>12204759
You don't know how fucking dead it is.

They introduced a "privilege checking" introductory class at Harvard. Feminists are introducing "biotruth" biology subjects that are rewriting objective science to go more in line with ideology, philosophy departments are getting purged of ideological enemies of the revolution and student council bodies and administrative boards are conducting private courts where you can't even bring an attorney when deciding if they are gonna kick you out or not.

To say nothing of the flood of bullshit degrees and the complete ruination of sociology, psychology, philosophy etc. subjects to be more in line with party rhetoric.

You're just now starting to feel the burn of SJW spreading its filthy tentacles to other victims.

>> No.12204769

>>12204420
lel

>> No.12204770

>>12204764
>That's okay. Kinda.
In what world is that okay?

How are people paying money to this person?

>> No.12204773

>>12204768
>Feminists are introducing "biotruth" biology subjects that are rewriting objective science to go more in line with ideology,
Remind me, how is this different from a religion again?

>> No.12204774

>>12204769
/jp/是一個純潔的imageboard,請不要使用/sp/的memes在這裡。我們完全不歡迎這種噁心的行為。謝謝。

>> No.12204777

>>12204764
It would be alright if Genji Monogatari wasn't a pile of cleanly picked bones. I don't think there is too much cultural or significant information left that we can draw from the story-- given her accomplishments I'm sure the entire thing is bunch of semiotic garbage. Why not put that effort into post-restoration era or modern works, instead?

>>12204768
Harvard isn't what it used to be. It's disturbing to think of the recourse all this SJW shit is going to have in the future. Better move to Japan where women are still women and men are also kind of women.

>> No.12204779

>>12204777
There's really no 'good' place left. It's better to move to a more rural location in general.

>> No.12204780

>>12204768
>They introduced a "privilege checking" introductory class at Harvard.
What in the name of fuck am I reading. You know, I always make fun of you 'murricans, but don't you all have like a truckload of guns lying around in your wardrobe? This is the right time you should use them.

>> No.12204781

>>12204450
They seem fair because it has nothing to do with the Middle East or Islam.

>> No.12204782

>>12204779

Space habitat/moon base is obviously the way to go.

>> No.12204783
File: 48 KB, 328x440, domestic violence.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204783

>>12204773
They like to pretend they have data backing their shit.

What they don't tell you is that they've been, for decades now, skewing statistics, fudging numbers and redefining what is and what is not a thing.

Perfect example are rape and domestic violence statistics. Feminists forced the definition of rape to remain "penetrative sex" so that "women can't rape" remains a "truth", even when real data shows that dykes are very violent and that women are just as prone to rape as men (recently release numbers show that 70% of rapes in youth correctional institutions are committed by female guards). They did the same shit with domestic violence. See pic, and despite of the numbers police still, by protocol, arrest the man.

The only reason they can get away with any of it is that the West has been brainwashed for decades that the main villain of the narrative is the (white) man. Now they're lumping Asians in that group as well.

>>12204777
>Harvard isn't what it used to be. It's disturbing to think of the recourse all this SJW shit is going to have in the future.
Academia is where this shit is coming from. They are the main source of this lefist insanity that is shitting on the world.

Many lecturers now, voluntarily, put fucking trigger warnings in their lecture material, and universities are contemplating making it mandatory, same with "microaggression".

>> No.12204787

>>12204768
I've completed a couple of historiography courses that have a pretty critical view of social justice. Then again they did come from a mostly white-male history department.
In Australia, a lot of teaching on social justice revolves around Indigenous Australians which ends up being largely useless for the large number of Chinese students here, maybe they shouldn't have to take it?

>> No.12204788
File: 83 KB, 446x594, Ishihara.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204788

Just wait until he comes back.

>> No.12204789

>>12204719
>Crimes related to child sexual abuse have reportedly been on the rise in Japan. Police uncovered 1,644 cases last year, about 10 times higher than a decade ago.
>Japan had earlier banned the production and distribution of child pornography in 1999.
So shortly after the first ban of CP overall there was little child sexual abuse. A decade later this very crime rate is rising?

>> No.12204791

>>12204661
It's not like artists would stop drawing. They'd either keep them until they can release them or sell them on the black market, which is the sad destiny of 2D anyway.

>> No.12204792

>>12204787
They should tweak the curriculum a bit for the Chinese students so that the focus is on Tibet, and not Australian Aborigines.

>> No.12204793

>>12204789
Or they just used the new law to catch the "criminals".

Does it even tell what they were arrested for? Was it possession of material or sexual assault?

>> No.12204794

>>12204782
That's the most ideal situation. It's pretty hard for them to bother you when you zip off to another planet and never look back.

>> No.12204796

"as a parent"

Every. Fucking. Time. As if this gives them +100 points credit to their argument.

>> No.12204797

>>12204796
That's how it is to normies.

>> No.12204798

>>12204796
There's a term for this kind of shit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

>> No.12204799
File: 96 KB, 934x550, EX5v4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204799

>>12204796

>> No.12204800

>>12204789
>reportedly been on the rise
>reportedly
That just means the journalist couldn't find some hard facts.
>10 times higher than a decade ago
This most certainly could, and undoubtedly dose, signal a rise in abuse but the reported rise may have been inflated by other elements. Of the top of my head I'd say, a less paternalistic focus in family relations in the last 15 years may have lead to wider reporting of sexual abuse crimes by fathers/husbands.
I doubt there has been a solid ten fold increase in sexual abuse, just in the reporting of it. Plus the link between abuse and anime/manga remains tenuous at best.

>> No.12204801

>>12204793
>Was it possession
No, that's what the new law is for, which will won't make people get arrested until a year from now.

>> No.12204803

>>12204783
Good thing I live in based Poland where we still laugh at stereotypes

>> No.12204804

>>12204803
Are "cannot into space" jokes popular in Poland?

>> No.12204805

>>12204803
Oh, Slavlands don't give a shit. We don't have a history of colonialism and slavery so white guilt can't work on us and nobody gives a shit about racism or equality or other libtard bullshit.

>> No.12204806

>>12204796
It's understandable that they would throw that in though. If your thinking about something, your mind immediately jumps to how it relates to you. In this case, reporters/investigators would think of their own children.
But most people would argue that reporting is supposed to be unbiased anyway and the phrase 'as a parent' has no place in an objective report.

>> No.12204807

So uh, how big is everyone's penis? Mines 3.7 inches hard and I'm a bit self conscious about it and being able to pleasure a woman. Does anyone have trouble doing that?

>> No.12204808

>>12204805
>We don't have a history of colonialism and slavery so white guilt can't work on us and nobody gives a shit about racism or equality or other libtard bullshit.
...Yet.

The SJWs will always find a way to fuck you guys up, they won't rest until they get their way. Just look at all the recent attention on Russia following the Sochi Olympics because of "oh no LGBT rights".

>> No.12204809

>>12204804
No, actually I only know one guy who randomly spews memes or phrases from the internet and visits 9gag

>> No.12204810

https://twitter.com/cnni/status/479147780058148864
>Those comments

>> No.12204811

>>12204807
You know, I've never really measured mine. One time, just after I finished masturbating I suddenly remembered that I was going to measure it so I ran upstairs to get a ruler but my penis was already shrinking.
If I had to guess I'd say somewhere between 5 and 6 inches, so bang on average.

>> No.12204814

>>12204810
When the queen of England had her kid people were saying "if he's lucky it'll be a she when she grows up" and tons of other tranny shit. I'm a bit worried about going.

>> No.12204815

>>12204808
Do you know what people do where I live whenever they see one of them genderqueer, otherkin faery furfags acting out and actually thinking he is special and has rights and dressing the part?

They beat the living shit out of him. He don't feel so special afterwards, let me tell you.

>> No.12204817

>>12204814
Don't worry. This time, people on Twitter are shitting on CNN for their stupid, biased report. Anime avatars everywhere.

>> No.12204818 [DELETED] 

>>12204803
Yes, but Russia deserves all the criticism.

>> No.12204819

>>12204814
Wait. The child was born a boy but people were saying they hoped that he would grow up transgender?

>> No.12204820

>>12204808
Actually we have social justice morons in Poland, most notably we have a "tranny" (a fat fuck with long hair that barely sounds female) and a faggot in the parliament, no one really takes them seriously though

>> No.12204821
File: 65 KB, 485x410, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204821

>>12204810
When there's a deed, bing is there.

>> No.12204822
File: 578 KB, 1401x1827, it's-a-boy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204822

>>12204819
Something like that.

>> No.12204823

>>12204814
>queen of England
You mean Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cambridge? The Queen is something like 90 years old now. Her vagina isn't that functional anymore.

>> No.12204824

>>12204823
I'd make it work

>> No.12204825

>>12204820
But how are your loli laws?

>> No.12204826

>>12204825
Actually even drawings are illegal but fuck the police

>> No.12204827

>>12204826
>drawings are illegal

In Poland? No they're not.

>> No.12204828
File: 89 KB, 1764x1152, 1388216127845.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204828

>>12204825
Shit, i wish anon finished the chart before he mysteriously disappeared.

>> No.12204831
File: 161 KB, 768x864, 1403097746045.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204831

Courtesy of CNN.

>> No.12204832

>>12204826
Are you sure? I live in the Baltics and we don't have any laws regarding it, I-I think.

>> No.12204834

>>12204827
>§ 4b. Kto produkuje, rozpowszechnia, prezentuje, przechowuje lub posiada treści pornograficzne przedstawiające wytworzony albo przetworzony wizerunek małoletniego uczestniczącego w czynności seksualnej podlega grzywnie, karze ograniczenia wolności albo pozbawienia wolności do lat 2

I can't bother to translate the whole thing

>> No.12204835

>>12204820
Just like in Italy, but here CP laws explicitly excludes drawings

>> No.12204836

>>12204831
Nice lolis, CNN.

>> No.12204837

>>12204828
I wonder how he went about researching this.
I've seen another version of this and I think QLD and ACT were also blue, don't quote me on that though.

>> No.12204838

>>12204831
Couldn't they put the artist names of those two paintings somewhere at the bottom? I want more

>> No.12204839

>>12204831

Oh my God those children are being raped, we gotta save them!

>> No.12204840

>>12204832
Estonian here. Distinctly remember 'depictions' are included. Never heard of a case where 'only' depictions got someone in trouble, so it is possible that they've been disregarded, or that it simply never happened.

>> No.12204841

>>12204836
To be fair, then typical normal thinks anything animeque is "loli". I've had a moron tell me that "that girl looks like an illegal anime drawing, look how underage she is", when discussing a fully clothed Misaka Mikoto from an anime screencap.

>> No.12204842

>>12204841
I wasn't being sarcastic, they look like good pics.

>> No.12204842,1 [INTERNAL] 

If I could, I would make every single normie related with the olympics drop dead right now. Their pathetic and ignorant lives are worth less than my 2D loli porn and their very existence is dangerous.

>> No.12204844

>>12204826
Fuck off with your spoilers.

>> No.12204846

>>12204844
No

>> No.12204847

>>12204840
Mul on aeg põhiseadus uuesti läbi lugeda siis.

>> No.12204848

>>12204820
Never acknowledge the "gender" a tranny pretends it is. Do not enable crazy people.

>> No.12204848,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12204838
Range Murata

>> No.12204850

You normies have twitter?

>> No.12204852

>>12204850

You don't have a twitter to help shitpost for /pol/?

>> No.12204855

>>12204850
No. But I can still see shit on that website whenever a major event goes by.

>> No.12204856

>>12204850
I had to get one since hentai artists upload shit there that they don't put in their pixivs

>> No.12204857

>>12204852
No. Why don't you use it to follow your idol?

>> No.12204860

>>12204857

I did but she stopped posting for some reason.

>> No.12204864

>>12204847
From: riigiteataja /akt/775056
>c) lastepornograafia – lapse mis tahes kujutamine mis tahes viisil tegelikus või simuleeritud ühemõttelises seksuaaltegevuses või lapse suguelundite mis tahes kujutamine eeskätt seksuaalsel eesmärgil.
Or in English
>Child pornography means any representation, by whatever means, of a child engaged in real or simulated explicit sexual activities or any representation of the sexual parts of a child for primarily sexual purposes.

>> No.12204865

>>12204850
How else am I supposed to get SJWs mad?

>> No.12204867

>>12204850
Lets go make one anon

>> No.12204869

>>12204728
This.

>> No.12204870

>>12204805
I'll give you Poland on that, but Slavlands?
Russia does have such a history.

(ob /jp/ : look at Kurile islands)

>> No.12204872

>>12204870
The trick is not give a shit and not enable the retards that want to make you feel white guilt.

It's been three years since I saw a nigger in the wild.

>> No.12204875

>>12204850
I got one so I could register for dojin.co but I don't use it.

>> No.12204884
File: 295 KB, 432x432, 1403099235623.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204884

>>12204831

>> No.12204886

>>12204872
>>12204865
>SJWs
>nigger
Please, let's keep this discussion loli-related and away from /pol/ territory ``kudasai''

>> No.12204887

>>12204575
>>12204630
Many places that sell H materials ask you not to take pictures. I think it's mostly to protect the customers. CNN was being very rude.

>> No.12204889

>>12204788
Unfortunately that man wasn't really the nutjob that Shitkaku made him out to be.

>> No.12204894 [DELETED] 

Ok, made a twitter it's kawaiiotakusama, who do I follow?

>> No.12204896

>>12204886
Any such discussion will inevitably be taken over by /pol/tards because it's prime material for pushing their agenda and trying to camouflage the fact that right and left wingnuts are both the same fucking shit.

>> No.12204897
File: 1.96 MB, 356x200, 1359914074165.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204897

>>12204864
Well, that's not good.

>> No.12204900

>>12204894
https://twitter.com/willripleyCNN

>> No.12204901

I wonder if the various intelligence agencies/security organizations/CIA-types don't have a hand in this?

After all, being able to arrest people for data is handy when you want to do a frame job. The only other kind of illegal information would probably be state secrets or credit card info, and there's kind of a Robin Hood mystique around that.

The CIA promoted abstract art to combat Soviet realism, so I can definitely see some modern day offshoot of that species trying something similar now. I dunno.

What I'd like to figure out is who benefits from this being a thing NOW, though. Who makes money from this being a crime? What social purpose does it serve when, even in the 70s and 80s, it wasn't a problem? Does it have to do with "adulthood" getting pushed forward by the need to go to college for four years before you can get a job good enough to provide for a family?

>> No.12204903

>>12204897
That delicious bulge...

>> No.12204904
File: 176 KB, 640x918, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204904

>>12204900
I wonder if he can even speak japanese, or he's just some pretty boy that they've pushed over there on a working visa which he'll lose instantly the moment he isn't pretty anymore.

>> No.12204910

>>12204904
5/5.

>> No.12204912

>>12204896
I'm a /pol/tard and I don't buy into the right wing bullshit.

Like I said earlier in this thread the left wing is giving reactionary and populist right wing movements some prime ammo to gather support for their brand of bullshit (that is the same as the left).

My one and only concern is freedom of expression.

>> No.12204913

>>12204897
That was in a tranny thread, go away tranny.

>> No.12204916

>>12204900
This guy's a blast. It's thanks to people like him that we won't be able to enjoy our loli manga much longer. Thanks a lot, Will ``Ripley''!

Anyone else notice his name is spelled similarly to a famous rape game that was banned thanks to a bunch of soccer mums?

>> No.12204918

>>12204916
Would you look at this ban.
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=search&cats=0_0&filter=0&term=rapelay

>> No.12204923

>>12204901
It's completely natural to want to fuck teenagers. If you can get every man to feel guilty and afraid on a daily basis, they're much more likely to keep their heads down and swallow the status quo's shit.

>> No.12204927

>>12204916
I will ripely you bro better have that puckering asshole nice and wet for me

>> No.12204928

>>12204913
Rude, you know you want it.

>> No.12204929

>>12204928

Get outta here lord homo.

>> No.12204932

>>12204928
Fuck off faggot.

>> No.12204933
File: 181 KB, 640x640, 13257880.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204933

Fags like this make me regret choosing journalism as a profession

>> No.12204934

>>12204933
You can fight the good fight anon, get out there and provide some quality journalism!

>> No.12204935

>>12204933
I'm thinking about attending some classes, do you have to do oral presentations?

>> No.12204937

>>12204934
I don't think that “quality” journalism would even get printed by any mass media outlet. They're in for the money, after all, and propagating the unpopular opinion hardly ever makes any money.

>> No.12204938

>>12204933
Don't be like CNN, be like the Tengu Reporter Team! Aya never tells lies in her reports!

>> No.12204940
File: 463 KB, 847x585, ma1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12204940

Spam CNN's twitter with loli pictures.

>> No.12204941

If it becomes aggressively pursued illegal to jack of to loli, I'll make a popular site and push other fetishes into the main stream until it becomes illegal to jack off to gigantism, futanari, furry, multiple dicks, vore, inflation, etc.

I'll also fight against anything that says "barely legal", "teen", or involves schoolgirls outfits in the 3D realm as well as against non-pornographic anime that has a focus on nudity or characters under 18.

Assuming I get support and even hit an end to those wars, I'll keep going and support those people who want to make all porn illegal until normals can't rub themselves off to anything.

>> No.12204944

>>12204940

I'd rather not get reported to the police from some crazy parent of 3 who can't tell the difference.

>> No.12204946

>>12204941
Just open up a kickstarter, scam some money to buy a dirty nuke from the habeebs and bomb CNN. No need to make collateral damage by banning other things as well.

>> No.12204947

>>12204941
You have my undivided attention.

>> No.12204948

>>12204944
Get a proxy and become an internet loli terrorist.

>> No.12204949

>>12204941
You have my katana.

>> No.12204950

>>12204948
>terrorist
It's all fun and games until Obama gets involved himself.

>> No.12204953

>>12204838
That's Naruko Hanaharu at the top and Range Murata at the bottom (I think), props to CNN for their taste

>> No.12204955

>>12204366
>While no link has been made between anime, manga and child abuse, Japan is facing a "serious" child abuse problem, according to a White Paper issued by e National Police Agency in March.

In their own fucking article.

>> No.12204958

>>12204955
The irony is the rise in child abuse is because of cheese pizza outlawing.

>> No.12204975

>>12204856
What, really?
I need to get around to making an pseudonymous account pronto.

>> No.12204982

I seriously hope the law they did pass fizzles out, maybe soon or after the Olympics at least.

>> No.12204984

>>12204958
Wasn't that only a short time ago though?

>> No.12204989

>>12204958
wtf is that about?

Do parents just unable to order pizza anymore so they beat their children instead?

thats fucked up

>> No.12204994

>>12204984
Sale of 3d material was outlawed circa 2000, so long enough to see a significant rise in sex crime. And its not just Japan, but every country that has it outlawed.

>> No.12204998

>>12204989
It's unfortunate, but "beat" their children is so light anon, the poor children are raped because there's no cheese pizza for them to order, and some of them only like cheese pizza, pepperoni is no good...

>> No.12205004

>>12204998
Margherita is the only acceptable form of pizza.

>> No.12205009

>>12204998
So just pluck the pepperoni off...spoiled brats.

>> No.12205012

>>12204998
I bet this is some form of nip protest.

If you don't unban cheese pizza I will rape my kids!

>> No.12205019
File: 461 KB, 600x725, 18235447.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205019

>>12204887
Journalists get very few opportunities to do anything exciting and will do the hidden camera/recorder thing whenever they get an opportunity.

I've dug through garbage to retrieve confidential files discarded by the leaders of the local branch of a political party. I didn't even use them in a story, I just saw an opportunity to have fun and fuck around.

>>12204934
D-domo

>>12204937
>I don't think that “quality” journalism would even get printed by any mass media outlet. They're in for the money, after all, and propagating the unpopular opinion hardly ever makes any money.
Bingo.
Unless your business model is centered exclusively on catering to intellectuals and the upper classes, you as a journalist are tasked with churning out news-flavoured fast food to the ignorant masses that demand entertainment and the confirmation of their biases.

Pandering to people's fears about their kids is always a big pull, which is why CNN gets away with beating up a non-issue like lolicon. Places like the BBC and the CBC can afford to take a principled look at issues because our tax dollars shields them from the demands of the free market. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is really up for you to decide.

>>12204935
Oh yes. If you in any way shy or adverse to speaking in public and near-constant social interaction, consider a different course of action.

I have an hour-long phone call with some academic knobhead and it is 100% excruciatingly painful, always.

My advice would be to get experience in a different field and THEN consider transferring over to journalism. As long as you can write competently, not defame people, and meet deadlines, you're a passable journalist - having expertise in, say, medicine or computer programming gives you a leg up above all of the liberal arts blowjobs that languish in the field.

>> No.12205021

>>12205019
>D-domo
stuttering on the internet is so epic and funny ha ha ha ha

>> No.12205029

>>12205021
Posting cutely on the interwebs is what it's all about, friend. Te-he~☆

>> No.12205033

>>12205029
>Te-he~☆
Get out

>> No.12205037
File: 482 KB, 1122x810, 26797383.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205037

>>12204938
As much as I would like to do a nuanced report on loli and such, actually doing so would be career suicide for me. Anything that has to do with kids in any way, shape, or form is infected to the bone with emotion. Even if the kids are just drawings on a page.

That being said, if I were forced to do this report, I'd try and get someone other than Ken Akamatsu to give an opposing viewpoint.

>Aya never tells lies in her reports!
>How many words do you think humans read?
>For those humans who say they work seriously everyday and would be satisfied by a little entertainment,

>and those humans who scan the headlines and pictures and feel like they know everything about the world,

>they won't have the leisure to read the contents of the article and understand its essence.
Lying is so 19th Century.
Fuck the fandom, Hatate is and will always be best journalist in my heart.

>> No.12205039

>>12205019
>I didn't even use them in a story, I just saw an opportunity to have fun and fuck around.
Digging through garbage is fun for you?

>> No.12205040
File: 64 KB, 240x416, Th125Aya.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205040

>>12205037
Also, link:
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Double_Spoiler/Translation/Spoiler
Aya's justification for being the William Randolph Hearst of Gensokyo is down towards the bottom.

>> No.12205042

>>12205037
*the best journalist

>> No.12205047

>>12204511
The '80s wasn't the golden age of ANYTHING.

>> No.12205049

>>12204831
They really should've picked something less visually appealing to illustrate how vile and dangerous the manga porn industry apparently is.

>> No.12205057

>>12205049
But then they can't play the "it's too lewd, it's harmful for society" card, since people will see the art, and notice how unappealing it is. They need to prove a point, that people rub off to this kind of thing.

>> No.12205058

>>12205049
They probably couldn't find anything. Popular loli manga, that is, the stuff that gets sold everywhere, is usually pretty well-drawn.

>> No.12205068
File: 134 KB, 206x295, d_4910138770743.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205068

>>12204831
My aspergers compelled me

bottom one coming soon, maybe

>> No.12205069

90% of /jp/ won't be into this stuff anymore when 2020 rolls around so who cares

>> No.12205070
File: 118 KB, 800x600, 16596099.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205070

>>12205039
Well, I did find some documents in between the coffee cups.

Also, I'm doing that phone call right now and my interviewee is on a cell phone/mic comb somewhere outside.

I can barely hear anything over the static. Never, ever do this, please. I will haunt this bastard after I die.

I'm going to see if I can't try to masturbate while doing this...

>> No.12205074

>>12205068
hah awesome.

>> No.12205079

>>12205070
Cool avatar, dude.

>> No.12205081

>>12204994
That's like saying we should legalize murder so that homicide crimes go down. The problem /is/ raping children and selling it on camera. That shouldn't be legal.

>> No.12205086
File: 249 KB, 800x805, 23216733.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205086

>>12205079
Thanks.

>> No.12205087
File: 871 KB, 1500x878, f423b4fd04d7581cf02df4aeea62871d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205087

>>12205068
Actually that's most likely the futuregraph page from this very issue, I won't find a preview of that.

>> No.12205088

>>12204666
>>12204660
>>12204663
Legalizing child pornography is linked to lower rates of child sex abuse
http://www.springer.com/about+springer/media/springer+select?SGWID=0-11001-6-1042321-0
Study carried out in Czech Republic confirms similar results in Japan and Denmark


A report has failed to show that people who read cartoons depicting child pornography will proceed to actually abuse children
http://cphpost.dk/news/report-cartoon-paedophilia-harmless.2255.html

>> No.12205091

>>12205081
But legalizing murder doesn't lower the homicide rate. Your analogy is flawed.

>> No.12205096

>>12205091
There is no connection. If you want to kill someone, you do. And you don't give a shit about laws.

>> No.12205100

>>12205088
Not to be that guy, but wouldn't the "lower rates of child sex abuse" be due to, you know, cp being legal?

>> No.12205112

>>12205091
That wasn't my analogy. I was careful and wrote "homicide crimes".

>> No.12205113

>>12205100
Are you just pretending to be stupid?
Are you saying that CP is inherently equal to 'child sex abuse'?

>> No.12205123

>>12205069
I'll be dead by 2018 or something

>> No.12205130

>>12205100
Yes, that is why I posted them.

>> No.12205132

>>12205088
One person is randomly picked in every large city to be stoned to death, Roman Colosseum style. This concentrates all the violence rage into one outlet, objectively lowering the violent crime rate. Should this be legal?

Yes means you're a moral Consequentialist (which I think most people are).

>> No.12205142

>>12205132
Wouldn't seeing a person stoned to death excite others and make them want to kill people too?

>> No.12205143

>>12205132
Drawings do not harm anyone. I will not answer your idiotic question.

>> No.12205146

>>12205123
I'll be 25-26 in 2018, I don't even wanna think about how horrible I'll be doing then. I probably won't be dead but pretty close to it.

>> No.12205148

>>12205068
>those tits
That's not very loli

>> No.12205150

>>12204174
SJW and Western puritanical values can't die fast enough.

>> No.12205158

>>12205142
>seeing a person stoned to death
You have no clue how stoning works, huh?

>> No.12205161

>>12205150
I wonder what the next witch hunt is going to be for them when they're through with all this now.

>> No.12205169

>>12205143
We're talking about real CP.

>> No.12205170

>>12205132
If it did, we'd be doing it already. I want to understand why Western culture needs this to be evil so much when we were playing pop songs about fucking sixteen-year-olds a few decades ago.

>> No.12205171

>>12205161
>witch hunt
Fuck, that's exactly what this is. Western society hasn't learned a damn thing from Salem.

>> No.12205178

>>12205170
Feminism,

>> No.12205182

>>12205169
>We're talking about real CP.

This also does not (usually) harm anyone. I don't have my links on hand right now, but it's generally consensual.

>> No.12205189

>>12205182

Children can't consent fuckwit.

>> No.12205190

>>12205169
You didn't even read the links did you?
>While the authors do not approve of the use of real children in the production or distribution of child pornography

>> No.12205192

>>12205189
Prove it.

>> No.12205193

>>12205189
Hah. Who told you this lie?

>> No.12205195

>>12205189
Yes they can

>> No.12205205

>>12205158
What?

>> No.12205207

>>12205190
The top link is about real CP. Look, that's not even actually relevant.

>Legalizing child pornography is linked to lower rates of child sex abuse
This sentence alone is sufficient for my reply to make sense.

>> No.12205211

>>12205170
>>12205178
It all boils down to people feeling a need to see themselves as better people than the other guys. A whole "but we're not like them, we're better!" mentality with a need to force it on everyone and sweep everything else under the rug all while breaking every mirror in sight because they are simply that insecure.

>> No.12205213

>>12205195
>>12205193
>>12205192

You are objectively wrong. The law is very clear on this matter.

>> No.12205215

>>12205182
I agree, but come on. Consent doesn't work the same way for 8 year olds. There is obviously a lot of exploitation that will be legally protected if producing and selling CP were legal.

>> No.12205216

>>12205213
>law
Fuck off

>> No.12205218

>>12205189
I recall reading a long blog post by a russian who was involved in the CP industry, where he talked about how the organised productions were done with the consent of the child and parents, how the child was not psychologically damaged, and in fact enjoyed it. Anyone know the one I'm referring to?

>> No.12205220

I bet because of the mainstream media coverage on our sekrit club there will be people who will be introduced and get hooked into into unique lolicon and U## idols.

sekrit club is now out to the open

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/18/japan-bans-child-porn_n_5506114.html

http://news.yahoo.com/japan-bans-child-porn-possession-042518576.html
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/18/uk-japan-pornography-idUKKBN0ET0C320140618
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-05/japan-child-pornography/5501416
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-09-19/news/sns-rt-us-japan-pornographybre88i07h-20120918_1_kyoto-nara-child
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/japan-to-ban-child-porn-after-years-as-international-outlier-1.1828786
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/17/world/asia/japan-child-porn-law/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/05/japan-bans-real-life-child-sexual-abuse-material-but-cartoons-remain-legal

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/18/japan-bans-child-porn_n_5506114.html

>> No.12205223

>>12205215
>There is obviously a lot of exploitation that will be legally protected if producing and selling CP were legal.
>a lot

Except you are objectively wrong. Legalizing CP reduces crime. This is fact, and not a single bit of the fucking nonsense you spout will change that.

>> No.12205225

>>12205218
I gotta read this.

>> No.12205227

>>12205207
You don't have a point.

>> No.12205229

>>12205216

You're welcome to leave human society and go live in a cave if you think laws about not exploiting children are a bridge to far.

>> No.12205230

>>12205189
The APA resolved that retarded people with a mental age of 8 can informedly consent to sex.
>>12205218
Here's a similar post by a German.
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn

>> No.12205231

>>12205225
I really wish I'd saved the link. It was a long read but highly insightful and shed a lot of light on what actually goes on in the industry.

>> No.12205234

>>12205229
>exploiting
How is it exploiting if they agree and enjoy themselves?

>> No.12205238

>>12205230
That's the one. I misremembered it as written by a ruskie, thanks for the link.

>> No.12205239

>>12205223
There isn't a shred of evidence to suggest that there's a causal link between Japan's prohibition on child pornography production/distribution and a lower instance of child abuse.

You're a pedophile grasping at straws.

>> No.12205240
File: 117 KB, 505x828, cnn_comments_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205240

If you guys ever wondered what they look like, these are the people who want to ban Chinese cartoons.

Taken from CNN's official Facebook page.

>> No.12205245

>>12205234

Children. Can. Not. Consent.

>> No.12205246

>>12205213
Fine. Prove that the law is correct.

>> No.12205247

>>12205229
*too far

>> No.12205251

>>12205239
>There isn't a shred of evidence to suggest that there's a causal link between Japan's prohibition on child pornography production/distribution and a lower instance of child abuse.

No. You're absolutely right that there isn't.

However, the inverse is true. Japan's prohibition on child pornography has lead to an increase in instances of child abuse, and there are objective studies (posted in this very thread) to back it up.

You're a retard being retarded. You should probably kill yourself when you get the chance.

>> No.12205252

>>12205240
I don't understand how gore and hardcore sex images are 'offensive' but a person that looks like that isn't. That's a 100 times more disgusting than dead bodies of good looking people.

>> No.12205253

>>12205223
>Legalizing CP reduces crime
Just like legalizing murder reduces homicide crime.

>> No.12205255

>>12205227
I think I just destroyed your mindless criticism and now you want to get in the last word

>> No.12205257

>>12205253
Legalizing child pornography is linked to lower rates of child sex abuse.

>> No.12205258

>>12205234
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent

>> No.12205267

>>12205252
That person is quite scary looking to me.

>> No.12205268
File: 515 KB, 1000x1000, raymoo_23.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205268

>>12205240
>It's not cartoons it's ANIME

>> No.12205269

>>12205257

Repeating it isn't going to make it true.

>> No.12205270

>>12205257
>>12205257
Okay, that's true, but it's an immoral notion that a few children ought to allowed to be tortured and abused in an attempt to save others: >>12205132.

>> No.12205271

>>12205253

just like legalizing drugs will reduce underground and mafia/triad/yakuza activity

>> No.12205272
File: 24 KB, 511x204, elizb_cnn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205272

>>12205252
Well, she has an opinion. Let's just say that I think her opinion is a bit stupid.

>> No.12205273

>>12205245
>>12205258
>The age of consent is the age at which a person is considered to be legally competent to consent to sexual acts
>legally
fuck off

>> No.12205275

>>12205268
You used the wrong image, anon. You were supposed to use the cool dog one.

>Sageru all you want, but you can't crush my Japanese spirit
>Actually mom, the plural is just "anime", got it?

>> No.12205277

>>12205270
>tortured and abused
source

>> No.12205278

>>12205246
Or does "consent" actually have anything to do with whether the person giving it is intelligent or lucid? Is it simply a category into which the academic-legal complex can assign people to at whim?

>> No.12205279

>>12205270

The increase in sex crimes over the past 10 years could have been due to any number of factors.

>> No.12205281

>>12205275
I lost it a while back in a spastic click-drag disaster. Never found it, could be anywhere by now.

>> No.12205283

>>12205273
What do you want me to say? Children are not vegetables and can make decisions for themselves and decide what they like and dislike, even thought law restricts that to some level because they're too naive and their brain isn't developed enough.

>> No.12205285

>>12205269
Scroll up.
>>12205270
Well the sources I posted did not argue in favour of using children to produce any more pornography. I am not arguing that so I am not going to continue on this.

>> No.12205289
File: 47 KB, 1023x723, d0bdf4b39820a7115b1b47cbb532db04.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205289

why do these threads always devolve into 3D shit talk

I feel like I'm the last pure bred 2Dcon on earth

>> No.12205291

>>12205283
>because they're too naive and their brain isn't developed enough
That's the problem, what's the criteria to judge that? Why does it differ wildly between countries? Why do retards with minds of 8 year old's can do it but not 8 year olds?

>> No.12205293

>>12205246
The law doesn't have to be correct. It's just there to set certain limits.

>> No.12205295

>>12205240

They (that abomination) can't ban what God gave me.

>> No.12205300
File: 844 KB, 508x5914, full_cnn_facebook.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205300

>>12205272
>>12205240
Here's the full thing, if you guys don't want to give Mark Zuckerberg any clicks.

Spot the 15 4channers, the page was linked on /a/ a few hours ago.

>> No.12205301

>>12205291
I'd say cultural differences.
also see
>>12205293

>> No.12205302

to anyone here invested too heavily into otaku culture, including its underbelly, should start diversifying into other hobbies and activities.


also big manga/LN/anime publshers in japan should take a page or the whole book from National Rifle Association on how to deal with outside forces who are trying to destroy freedom, commerce & culture.

>> No.12205303 [DELETED] 

>>12205277
aDJ0Y29yZWppbG5xdnpiNi5vbmlvbgo=
http://www.base64decode.org/

>> No.12205304

And I am still romancing loli bitches.
私のおうちどこですか。

>> No.12205306

>>12205291
Literally all of neuroscience says children can't make informed decisions when it comes to something like sexual activity. Most developed nations have adopted positions based on this research. They didn't just throw a dart and set the limit based on where it landed.

>> No.12205307

>>12204366

Why does it matter what someone finds "disturbing"?

I think people are actually forgetting the distinction between fiction and reality.

>> No.12205308

>>12205300
>Spot the 15 4channers
>Facebook

4channers? All I see are garbage.

>> No.12205310 [DELETED] 

>>12205289
EPIC /a/ MEME BRO XDDDD EPIC

>> No.12205312

>>12205301
>cultural differences
That makes no sense and doesn't fit your agument. Are you saying children develop at different time in different countries? Otherwise the law makes no sense and should be changed

>>12205306
Then why do the ages of consent range from 0 to 18?

>>12205303
>I have pretty much faced everything what is happening on the Internet regarding this theme. But the gruesome images of crying, raped and even tortured children do not come from commercial producers. They come not from third parties but from bestial fathers and mothers of the children that do this to them. Most are fathers with incestuous tendencies who meet in forums and chats. One begins to make and distribute images, perhaps initially only depicting the naked child - Then, the masturbating child, then the child being raped, and perhaps the child in a forced Sadomaso game. Each parent goes always a little further because he/she always has to offer a little more than the predecessor. In other words, the violent abuse takes place almost always in the family. By publication of these pictures they end up in the Internet. Again the Russians collect the material and publish it on commercial websites.

>> No.12205314

>>12205289
I am too, but I'll also argue in favor of OTHER people's freedoms as well. I think the sort of person who would actually want to watch 3D CP is sick, but giving the government the power to police thought crime is incredibly bad news.

We're not arguing about 2D because all of us here should already be in total agreement that it's harmless.

>> No.12205315

>>12205289

2D essence comes from 3D always

>> No.12205325

>>12205306
>Literally all

Rind studies, you dumb cunt. "All of neuroscience" can fuck right off when they threw out those perfectly legitimate studies, pretended they didn't exist, and concluded it was "wrong."

>> No.12205326

>>12205306
>Literally all of neuroscience says children can't make informed decisions
>Most developed nations have adopted positions based on this research
Surely you can provide sources for that.

>> No.12205330

>>12205312
"Oh, no, we're commercial child porn producers. We only rape the kids a little!"

Is this seriously your defense?

>> No.12205332

>>12205330
>rape
It was consensual

>> No.12205335

>>12205325
The studies were dismissed because their methods were absolute bullshit. Research must be conducted in a certain way to be valid. The only material I've seen linked in this thread is poorly cobbled together pedophile apologism.

>> No.12205336

>>12205330
I'm not him, but that certainly sounds a lot better than "We're not commercial child porn producers. We only rape kids a lot"

Take your worthless self elsewhere. You clearly aren't ready for this place

>> No.12205340

>>12205312
>One begins to make and distribute images
And they should be imprisoned right there. Then they'll never be able to engage in this slippery slope that you yourself say will happen.

>> No.12205341

>>12205335
Is that why the same study has been repeated and proven once again?
>Seven years after the publication of Rind et al.'s (1998) meta-analysis, Heather Marie Ulrich, with two colleagues, replicated the study in The Scientific Review of Mental Health Practice and confirmed its main findings, although they did not endorse its authors' conclusions.

>> No.12205342

>>12205335
>The studies were dismissed because their methods were absolute bullshit.

Bullshit. Their methods were about as objective as you can be, under the circumstances.

The only reason they were thrown out is because the world decided to stick its head up its ass and ignore them, as you damn well know.

>> No.12205345

>>12205336
Shouldn't you be swapping kiddie porn on tor or something?

>> No.12205346

>>12205345
Too busy fucking your mom.

>> No.12205347

>>12205312
>That makes no sense and doesn't fit your agument. Are you saying children develop at different time in different countries? Otherwise the law makes no sense and should be changed

That too, but I doubt it effects the laws much. My point is, different cultures have different moral standards. Age of consent is a pretty difficult thing to determine if we look at it from a biological not a legal standpoint. When girls start getting their periods and become fertile, maybe? When boys hit puberty? Or maybe when kids are able to express their thoughts and talk coherently? And the most important question is, why does it even matter? If 12 year olds want to have sex, they will, no matter what the law says. Besides, it really doesn't matter what we think, since it's not like we'd be able to change anything from the (metaphorical) basement in which we dwell.

>> No.12205350

>>12205340
The slippery slope only happens because of deranged fathers which wouldn't be found out until it's too late anyway. It's like saying you should ban violent video games because someone killed because of them.

Also professional CP would lower the number of abused children anyway

>> No.12205351

>>12204176

are they finally putting up no gaijin allowed signs on otaku establishments?

>> No.12205355

>>12205325
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rind_et_al._controversy
>that since its conclusions were contrary to conventional wisdom, its findings should never have been released
Out of everything there, this line pisses me off more than anything else. How dare they brush science off like that, just because the truth is inconvenient.

>> No.12205356

>>12205347
That's my point, in my opinion sexual activity should be legal when you hit the puberty, all I'm saying is that current laws are retarded and the pressure that's put by most countries to have these strict CP laws is downright harming and Japan is going to be a prime example.

>> No.12205365

>>12205350
How would you feel about licensing production and imprisoning anyone who conducts without a license? Similar to brothels. We don't want AIDS all over the place, so prostitution should be made to be conducted in a safe way.

>> No.12205366
File: 19 KB, 138x198, clarissa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205366

What does /jp/ think of Clarrisa?

http://imgur.com/a/mDf8c#0

>> No.12205369

>>12204243
I know the guy you're replying to drew the first line in the sand, but I can't help feel silly when you have a person defending clothed jb by attacking loli doujin.

>>12204580
Doesn't look any different than the rapelay "reporting" we scoffed at a few years ago. No matter what, idiots are going to believe in stupid shit. We can't win.

>> No.12205371

>>12205366
the problem here is rape, not pedophilia. Also, it was a good comic

>> No.12205375

>>12205365
I'd be okay with it, to be honest though I wouldn't want prepubescent porn though because it'd mosty likely physically harm the children, at most some erotica

>> No.12205376

>>12205371

>the problem here is rape, not pedophilia

That was my conclusion.

>> No.12205384

>>12205375
Fuck I can't write in English, I should read what I write before I post, let me fix that
>I'd be okay with it, to be honest though I wouldn't be completely fine with prepubescent porn because it'd mosty likely physically harm the children, some soft erotica would be fine

>> No.12205386

>>12205376
I don't get how being a pedophile is more of a crime than being a furry or any other fetishist, since thought crimes aren't a thing, but normies will be normies I guess

>> No.12205387

>>12205384
You actually went out of your way to correct your post and still fucked it up. Nice job.

>> No.12205389

>>12205387
Thanks, my English is pretty bad, at least I feel like I conveyed what I wanted this time though

>> No.12205393

>>12205314
Personally, I think that Western culture is figuratively a cancer. I am a part of it! But a cancer is something that reproduces and expands, changing the host body into more of itself. The thing is, even if those cancer cells are the best cancer cells ever, a body composed entirely of cancer cannot survive. America continually replicates itself elsewhere, devastating the cultural ecosystem and annihilating any diversity beyond boutique multiculturalism, which, in the end, must inevitably be whittled down to no diversity at all.

>> No.12205394

>>12205300
Am I wrong or Web2.0 helped foster the biggest crowd of idiots in history and encouraged their kneejerk medieval crowd mentality? When I read these posts I can't help but think they'd be signing an online petition against bonsai cats and Chinese fetus soups next.

>> No.12205399

>>12205386

I suspect it started as something righteous. Children shouldn't have to work (and often die) in mines and factories, etc.

The problem with these movements is that they don't stop when they've fulfilled their purpose.

The theme was "protection of children from bad things", but as each "bad thing" was eliminated, something else would become apparent as the new "bad thing", so it is essentially "protection of children from everything".

The rape hysteria doesn't help, either. It makes people paranoid.

>>12205369

>Doesn't look any different than the rapelay "reporting" we scoffed at a few years ago.

This is becoming increasingly common in many areas.

>> No.12205401

>>12204822
Most of those were tongue in cheek though.

>> No.12205403

>>12205401
*tongue-in-cheek

>> No.12205414

>>12205394

I think that the fundamental problem is that most people cannot handle a global community and try to treat it like their own backyard.

The problem goes back further than Web2.0, however. Some time in the last 200 years when people stopped living in a small communities where they all knew each other, and trended towards urbanisation and large communities of strangers. The average person is completely voiceless and no concern is shown towards them. Only towards averages and agendas.

They're yet to accept that they can't control their environment, anymore.

>> No.12205415

>>12205399
So now the root is of this bad thing is thinking that all sex is "bad" somehow. It became the perfect target. Rape hysteria fear propaganda also has many not so bright people on the edge to that will always be on the look out for the rapist boogeyman that almost always isn't there. The paranoia has many people with their fingers on the implication triggers at all times. But that's also linked to a whole different issue, people are afraid of everything.

>> No.12205418

>>12205399
>The theme was "protection of children from bad things", but as each "bad thing" was eliminated, something else would become apparent as the new "bad thing", so it is essentially "protection of children from everything".
Nowdays it is just becoming an excuse for censorship, I though I was safe from this retarded movement in my shitty 3rd world country, but it is starting to infect here too, the poor people don't even have jack shit to eat, yet protecting imaginary children from imaginary harm is clearly more important and worthy of spending tax money on

>> No.12205423

>>12205414
>can't
You (unfortunately) underestimate the power of the west.

>> No.12205428

>>12205415
>But that's also linked to a whole different issue, people are afraid of everything.
That's a very American problem, which is difficult to see if you actually live there. Most countries are not like that.

>> No.12205431

>>12205399
>I suspect it started as something righteous. Children shouldn't have to work (and often die) in mines and factories, etc.

They shouldn't "have to" no, but the problem is that they even removed the choice for kids who "want to," and then took that further to eliminate all choice forever in any situation for children.

My mom is pretty old, and even she still complains about being forced to stop "berry picking" during the summers when she was a child. It used to be a major source of income (from a child's perspective) and allowed her to purchase new clothes and all that jazz.

If a kid wants to do that, and isn't being forced into inhumane hours/conditions, then why the fuck aren't they allowed to?

>> No.12205435

>>12205428
if you had the geographically largest empire on earth and had to maintain it indefinitely, you'd be scared too

>> No.12205438

>>12205415

Sex is both the best and the worst.

It isn't surprising it makes people do insane things when they have such cognitive dissonance.

>>12205423

If they succeed in one thing, they'll immediately move onto fixing something else and never feel they're finished, and they'll never feel they have any more control that before they started.

The list of "problems" is inexhaustive for a single person.

>>12205431

That is a good point.

I guess it extends further into removal of responsibility and power from children.

>> No.12205439

Is there political or economic utility in these vacuous, arbitrary, pathetic opinion pieces?. Why are actual people devoting their various existences to vaguely expressing aversion to completely inconsequential aspects of cultures other than their own? Does CNN operate under a model that recognizes its material as appealing to a vestigial desire to engage in idle high-school level gossip?

>> No.12205440

>>12205431
Because childhood is designed to prepare people for the world they will be released into, and as we all know in the real world you don't have to do any work to live fine.

>> No.12205441

>>12205403
whoops

>>12205399
Yeah I think the real problem here is an overall social transformation and in the end we only have ourselves to blame for not being more involved and outspoken. Our eternal vigilance lapsed and because of it there is a debt of liberty (certainly we're not being gassed) that we can't work back on. Things are just going to get worse.

It's the same Jack Thompson argument and I don't think it's something anyone ever really stood up and eloquently argued against. We just assumed we won because that guy burnt out. Everything is sanitized, games and movies have lots of gunfire but no bullet wounds. Plenty of producers of scat/abuse porn have been thrown in jail or had their lives ruined other ways.

I feel like I'm some insane guy connecting various photographs with string on a corkboard, but I really think this is a grand transformation of society and culture that goes includes everything from people who play MMOs and hate them and complain constantly to loli doujin.

>> No.12205443

>>12205440
Also I intended this statement ironically but then realised where I was. It's actually entirely legitimate, we don't want to work, and parents don't want their kids to have to either.

>> No.12205445

>>12205439

I'm pretty sure whoever is pulling the strings knows exactly what they're doing, and why they're making money.

>> No.12205447

>>12205431
The reasoning is that if you allow kids who ``want to'' there will be children who would be forced to say they want to work.

>> No.12205449

>>12205445
Is this the part we start theorising about the Illuminati?

>> No.12205451

>>12205441
>I feel like I'm some insane guy connecting various photographs with string on a corkboard, but I really think this is a grand transformation of society and culture that goes includes everything from people who play MMOs and hate them and complain constantly to loli doujin.

You know the same feels as me. Although, I've got a thumbtack marked with "price of Labor", one with "academia-State Dept. connection", and another with "price of Energy", and I'm still figuring out where to put them.

>> No.12205454

>>12205449

No, probably just a sociopath who wants a lot of money.

Sociopaths trend towards power, as they're the most willing to do whatever it takes to get and maintain it.

>> No.12205456

>>12205443
As I've heard my mom tell it, it was actually a money issue.

The government didn't want children to bring any extra income into the household, because a lot of mothers at that time (war periods) were on welfare of some sort so the government didn't like that it upset the balance.

I don't know. I wasn't even close to being born at this time, so all I have is hearsay to go on.

>> No.12205463

>>12205454
You overestimate the power of a single individual and the amount of influence they have on society. You'd need a serious amount of organization to get this much power in place. Perhaps a group united by a purpose, an ideology, their race or religion, or some combination of the above factors?

Who am I kidding, there's no way there's any connection there.

>> No.12205470

>>12205356
Yeah, I think 13-16 is a good age, too. Too bad merika is fucking retarded.

>> No.12205473

>>12205463
The connection may simply be that the majority of humans are fucking dumb, and tend to clump together in lumps of stupid.

>> No.12205475

>>12205463

I tend away from the Zionist conspiracy theories.

They're no different from the left's patriarchies and privilege.

It's all self-affirming speculation based on a preformed conclusion.

Statistics and confirmation bias are terrible things.

>> No.12205489

>>12205451
I guess the saddest thing is how quickly some people are willing to throw away what little freedom they've got. Especially in the nerd sphere. It's just one big series of concessions until you can't even recognize what you used to love.

Everything is some flavor of proto-fascism from SJWs who shout people down after inviting them to speak all the way to people still making that awful "this is like my house" metaphor to explain their shitty and biased moderating on supposedly open forums. Any idea that isn't masterfully crafted gets torn apart with either being racist/sexist or unpatriotic depending on the political flavor.

It's hard to not just figure we've hit the point of no return, declare the fight lost, and just wait for death while consoling myself by blowing my little money on anime figures and calling Ben Kuchera a fraud on twitter every couple of days.

>> No.12205490
File: 347 KB, 2000x1690, 1388734552778.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205490

How do people blindly accept the wholly fictitious, piteous, dreary and ignoble notions of any moral or ethical proposition?

>> No.12205493

>>12204174

When is Japan gonna stop listening to the west.

>> No.12205496

>>12205113
CP doesn't just appear out of nowhere, mate.

>> No.12205500

>>12205489
>Everything is some flavor of proto-fascism from SJWs

I've been reading up on that. Turns out a lot of contemporary economic policies are similar to what those Germans were doing! Without, uh, the genocide, I guess.

>> No.12205506

>>12205489

I think the trend of the last few years is going to keep building momentum and there's nothing at all we can do to stop it.

It is best to prepare and adapt when the time comes.

Supply will probably stop eventually, so horde what you can. Maybe learn to draw well so you can be your own personal supplier.

It is not yet clear which destructive factor will dominate, but what ever it is, I think we'll be worse off.

>> No.12205507

>>12205500
>Hey guys, let's divorce this one thing that happened entirely from its context and hope that we re-create physical its effects under completely distinct initial conditions

It's quite distressing to see this type of reasoning present at these levels of institution.

>> No.12205517

This is I've always been against popularity of Japanese pop culture. People called me a hipster or whatever, but I knew someshit like this would happen. Self righteous western fags would come and fuck shit up like they always do.

>> No.12205519

>>12205506

>trend of the last few years

On second thought, it is much older, but only became visible recently.

Unabomber predicted all this in 1995, and the ideas weren't even new then.

>> No.12205522

>>12205230
>https://wikileaks.org/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn
Pretty good read. 3D is still disgusting though.

>> No.12205522,1 [INTERNAL] 

literally


who



cares????

>> No.12205527

>>12205517
I feel like this is more just globalization. If it wasn't popular here in the west there would be even FEWER people criticizing this schlock CNN is putting out.

>>12205506
I think learning to draw is something I should do. I need to become my own renaissance man. Now we'll see if I actually do any of this or in the end just climax into a dirty sock.

>>12205500
Any articles for digestion by my idiot brain? Or do you mean actual reading?

>> No.12205528

>>12205257

Be careful bro. I don't want you to get swat teamed. It doesn't take much anymore in AmeriKKKa.

>> No.12205532

>>12205490
There is no person who doesn't have values. Ask yourself.

>> No.12205534

>>12205475
I'm just saying it makes sense for a bunch of people who historically have banded together to stick to the same habits they've always had. Nothing more and nothing less.

>> No.12205535

>>12205527
>If it wasn't popular here in the west there would be even FEWER people criticizing this schlock CNN is putting out.

You also could argue the opposite. It being popular is why it's being targeted in the first place.

>> No.12205538

>>12205527
>I feel like this is more just globalization.

I wonder if the whole Silicon Valley OLPC feel-good "poor benighted savages on the internet" thing isn't some kinda push to propagate US Gov ideas into places they wouldn't ordinarily get.

>> No.12205535,1 [INTERNAL] 

There's nothing wrong with pedophilia.

>> No.12205540

>>12205517
Pretty sure weeaboos didn't invent cultural imperialism...

>> No.12205542

>>12205517
It's part of why I quickly grew up from my days when I promoted 4chan. Better for people to not know so they don't mess something up.

>> No.12205549

>>12205540

No, they just made jews aware of it. If it was some obscure subculture like say Japanese Hip Hop. No one would care.

>> No.12205550
File: 1.61 MB, 1280x720, ar15.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205550

Does anyone know how much power the manga/LN/anime publishers association have in Japan?

In this current state of environment I think that they should take a page or the whole book from National Rifle Association on how to deal with outside forces who are trying to destroy freedom, commerce & culture.

Even better (and more relatable) they should also bring up the Violent Video Game Talking Points (with some modifications), apply it to animu/mango/LN and you will convince more people 2D =/= 3D

>> No.12205553

>>12205542
How fucking new are you, back in the day keeping 4chan secret was a common thing.

>> No.12205557

>>12205549
Even if the Jews are the ones who will not be blamed for nothing, can we hold off on blaming them until we have names and shit?

>> No.12205558

>>12205550
The NRA is massive and everyone hates "filthy cartoons for pedos."

>> No.12205559

>>12205550

They shouldn't be having this dialogue in the first place. No, I know why they have "No foreigner allowed" signs or why companies avoid shipping internationally.

>> No.12205560

>>12205557
No. Jews did it. We just know.

>> No.12205561

>>12205557
Are you saying jews are not responsible? Seriously?!

>> No.12205565

>>12205560
>>12205561
I'm saying that it's a non-starter, it's needlessly reductive, and it will result in bad, lazy thought. It's the kind of thing people troll pretending to believe because they don't want anyone to take them seriously.

>> No.12205566

>>12205560
>>12205561

Even if it is true, anti-Semitism is very self destructive.

>> No.12205568

>>12205558

I'm talking about their tried & true tactics!

For those already too heavily invested in ota culture like this should come up with the "guns don't kill people, people kill people" equivalent that sticks to the minds of masses.

>> No.12205571

>>12205500
'proto-fascist' would mean anarcho-syndicalism, since all the original fascists economists actually started out as anarcho-syndicalists. Fascist economics is based on national-syndicalism. Unless you are reading some wacky mises.org bullshit, no western nation has an anarcho-syndicalist or national-syndicalist economy.
Also, German National Socialist economics is not the same as fascist economics (no western nations have national socialist economies either).

>> No.12205573
File: 28 KB, 395x395, CTF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205573

When I was researching the news about this (On BBC, here, etc.) I felt like I was being watched. That now I'm on some kind of register. I am, most likely.

Even though I have never attempted to view or download loli, precisely because it is illegal in the UK and can get me imprisoned for around 20 years or more.

My personal opinion, which is one that will probably get me on a GCHQ watchlist if I'm not already, but I don't care any more because I refuse to be silenced by fear of government, is that loli harms nobody, and there is no moral obligation to forbid it. Loli should be treated as slightly more restricted pornography. Those with a history of sexual crimes should not be allowed it, for instance.

What is loli? Fictional cartoon representations. That's all they are. There will always be paedophiles, there will always be lolicons. That is simply human nature - There is nothing to cure it, or prevent it.

We are better off giving them the fictional cartoon representations. Making 3D CP illegal is common sense. Making 2D loli illegal is overkill. I would rather that they get their pornography legally from a Japanese artist's drawing room than illegally from a Russian mobster's basement.

Again, this type of opinion gets people on watchlists. Think about that. I am not supporting the 3D industry, one that is evil. I am simply weighing up the facts from my neutral point of view.

The fact of the matter is simply that no matter what, prohibition does not work. Guns, porn, alcohol, religion, drugs - Prohibiting it only forces it underground.

Guns are banned in the UK - There's still shootings.
Loli is banned in the UK - There is still loli on some people's hard drives. Maybe some British on this very thread have it.
Alcohol is forbidden for under-18s - They just get an over-18 to buy it for them.
Drugs are illegal - There is still drugs on the streets.

Prohibition never works. You're better off making it legal and controlled.

>> No.12205576

>>12205568
Yes I understand why you're suggesting, it's not a hard concept, however its effectiveness is severely limited by the difference in scale here. Not to mention that people will just shrug this off with a simple "okay whatever creepy pedo."

>> No.12205577

>>12205565

Please stop trying to with hold judgement in order to seem "reasonable". This is typical jewish M.O. you're either JDF or in denial.

>> No.12205582

>>12205553
2005. I'm aware I was late to the party.

>> No.12205584

>>12205568

Anything along the lines of pointing out the obvious of 'fiction is not real', or promoting freedom of expression is no good.

They believe that all fiction should be propaganda.

It has to show X in a positive light, and Y in a negative light, or it is Verboten and will make people think incorrectly.

Don't even bother with data. They're more damaging than good against these people. Especially not statistics - they're open to interpretation, and they'll just interpret them in their own way.

>> No.12205586

>>12205573
>When I was researching the news about this (On BBC, here, etc.) I felt like I was being watched. That now I'm on some kind of register. I am, most likely.
>I am simply weighing up the facts from my neutral point of view.
>neutral
>I am not supporting the 3D industry, one that is evil
>evil

Nobody cares about the opinion of a retard. Stay silent next time.

>> No.12205593

>>12205568

Why would you try reasoning with unreasonable people?

>> No.12205594

>>12205573

You are on 4chan, we're all on the list.

>> No.12205597

>>12205594
Bullshit.

>> No.12205598

>>12205594
Including the normaldrones who post on /b/? No.

>> No.12205600

>>12205559
They just can't cower in fear!
The 2D industry complex (I just made that up) should fight back, NRA style!

I'm sure everyone here knows who/what NRA and its arm NRA-ILA is, and why it's one of few NGOs that racked up a lot of victories besides the American Gaming Association (AGA).

heck, NRA even fought the UN and won!
http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/30/nra-stops-u-n-arms-trade-treaty/

>> No.12205604
File: 16 KB, 400x300, 2356.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205604

>>12205597

Are you terrified?

>> No.12205606

>>12205586

It is obvious that the exploitation and filmed rape of real children is evil.

This is a conclusion arrived by the simple fact that I live in a civilised society (As much as one can call the UK civilised. We're a first-world nation, so I think that counts for something.)

I have absolutely no issue with people who consume loli porn.

I have a problem with those consuming real CP. They are the problem here.

>>12205594

It's such a shame that the government feels as if people on fucking 4chan are a threat. Just shows how paranoid they have become.

>> No.12205610

What even is CP? Are erotic nude images of underage kids with her/his and her/his parents considered CP?

>> No.12205614

>>12205598

They have loli threads like every hour while name dropping actual seepiss sites every once in a while.

>> No.12205616

>>12205550

They are a powerful enough lobby that they were able to get the opposition to exclude a provision from the law that would have funded a study on the effects of "pornographic manga involving young children." I don't know enough about Japanese politics to know how many seats are held in the Diet by the LDP and opposition (which I think is at least a couple parties), but seeing as it was only a study provision and not an outright ban, based on my own experience doing this sort of work in the states it takes a fair amount of juice to get something relatively innocuous like a study/special commission without real authority/etc. struck from a bill.

>> No.12205619

>>12205610
Why are you asking this? Have you viewed such images? Do you want to know if you're in the gray-zone?

>> No.12205620

>>12205610

the goalpost keeps changing.

>> No.12205621

>>12205606
>It is obvious that the exploitation and filmed rape of real children is evil.
Not all CP is rape retard. Not all CP even has an adult involved in it. A girl snapping a picture of herself is not 'evil'.

>> No.12205622

>>12205606
>It is obvious that the exploitation and filmed rape of real children is evil.
Why don't you try reading the thread?

>> No.12205624

>>12205600

Japans only hope is to go back to it's pre ww2 mindset of empire building in order to protect itself from imperialism [cultural or otherwise].

Hopefully, the looming threat of china can be used as a pretext to amend its constitution and allow for arms building. That's a start.

>> No.12205626

>>12205573

Loli isn't "banned" in the same way those other things are.

Even piracy is more prohibited, with the token attempt to block the Piratebay, and that isn't enforced at all. Something like 70% of the country admit doing it.

The change was most likely to allow for loli to be used as supporting evidence in child abuse cases.

>> No.12205627

>>12205610

Anything showing genitalia unless it's nudism or medical. Skimpy outfits is not cp.

>> No.12205632

>>12205606

Get lost fag.

>> No.12205633

>>12205606
>It is obvious that the exploitation and filmed rape of real children is evil.

Nobody cares about the opinion of a retard. Stay silent.

>> No.12205635

>>12205627
>Skimpy outfits is not cp.
It sometimes is under the PROTECT Act.

>> No.12205636

>>12205626
>Something like 70% of the country admit doing it.

[Citation Needed]

>> No.12205637

>>12205614
Loli threads are posted on /b/ solely because it's the only board where they're allowed. It's otherwise 99% underage faggots posting garbage.

>> No.12205638

>>12205621

>A girl snapping a picture of herself is not 'evil'.

It's bloody stupid though. Also, please refrain from insulting my personal character.

>>12205622

I have read the thread. The mindset I have is one that I cannot change. It has been drilled into be since birth. I am aware that the opinion is not truly my own, but I still find it correct.

>>12205626

David Cameron plans to fully make it illegal, along side rape pornogrpahy and introducing the filters. The fact that it can be used as evidence at all suggests that it is illegal. I would rather not take the chance.

>>12205633

>Stay silent.

Nah.

>> No.12205639

>>12205637
And it's the highest traffic board. Why are normalfags such degnerates?

>> No.12205640

>>12205606
>This is a conclusion arrived by the simple fact that I live in a civilised society (As much as one can call the UK civilised


UK is a third world population toilet just like most western european shitholes.

>> No.12205641

>>12205619
No, I'm just becoming curious now. I'm an aspiring artist, though, so I use some nude artistic/nudist images of kids as reference (Sally Mann tag on Tumblr etc). I've been pondering over whether or not to use Candydoll, a certain d/ic/k gave me the name and I'm a bit conflicted.

>> No.12205643

>>12205638
>It's bloody stupid though.
What the FUCK are you talking about?

>> No.12205644

>>12205638
So, have you read the wikileaks report then? The guy makes some very good points.

>> No.12205645

>>12205641

delete your comment quickly

>> No.12205646

>>12205638

Here comes the moralfag. 20 bucks says he's a shill.

>> No.12205647

>>12205559

It's how Nintendo gets away with not having to pander to SJW

You just ignore them. Its probably why they also wont do an official translation of PSO2, so normies dont come shitting it up.

>> No.12205648

>>12205644
>So, have you read the wikileaks report then? The guy makes some very good points.

Are you retarded? Look at this worthless garbages previous posts. Are you honestly asking if this shitlord can read?

>> No.12205649

>>12205641

What's wrong with you? Name dropping and shit, jesus!

>> No.12205651

>>12205636

Piracy, that is.

It was probably 2 to 3 years ago I saw it.

>> No.12205653
File: 1.22 MB, 1200x1800, AlissaP13_018.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205653

>>12205641
It's obviously safe from a legal point of view, but you probably still don't want to be seen browsing certain sets with too much interest.

>> No.12205652
File: 126 KB, 800x600, 1347253816248.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205652

>>12205641
That's it boy. You're dead meat now.

>> No.12205654

>>12205645
It's to late, I can already hear sirens outside my house and SWAT has entered my house downstairs, they're runningg upstairs t

>> No.12205655

>>12205640

>UK is a third world population toilet just like most western european shitholes.

I share your opinion. This country can indeed go to Hell for all I cared. But I still live here and can't afford to move, so I'm up shit creek without a roll of toilet paper here.

>>12205644

>Wikileaks

I'm trying to AVOID getting on more watchlists than I'm already on.

>>12205646

>Moralfag

How am I a moralfag? Because I oppose 3D CP? Literally fucking everyone does in this country.

>>12205643

Taking nude photos of yourself. Unless you're getting paid for it, it's not a good idea. I've personally never seen it end well.

>> No.12205656

>>12205647

Eamonn Fingleton [economist specializes in japan] argues that japan is also faking it's decline. So, the west can stop pressuring it about it's trade barriers. They have a plan I think.

>> No.12205658

>>12205655
So you'd be willing to admit not all CP is rape?
Why should self-shots be illegal?

>> No.12205660
File: 236 KB, 641x550, 1347231783601.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205660

>>12205655
>I'm trying to AVOID getting on more watchlists than I'm already on.
So you're going to put fingers in your ears, close your eyes and sing lalalala. Alrighty then.

>> No.12205661

>>12205655
>Literally fucking everyone does in this country.

Argumentum ad populum

Why do you think UK and other western countries are shit holes? Maybe, it's because they're wrong about certain issues.

>> No.12205663

>>12205647

Actually, Nintendo was forced to issue apology over that mii verse "incident".

>> No.12205664

>>12205663
Forced by whom?

>> No.12205667

>>12205663

The one about not having homosexual relations in tomodachi life?

Yeah no, they'll just ignore SJW as much as possible unless the profit is worth it. There is no winning with them, they're just there to ruin other peoples fun. Look at Ubisoft. They tried their hardest to create a dialogue with the SJW community, but they just hate everything that could be fun.

>> No.12205668

>>12205661
Indeed, I hear there's no secret ballot or whatever it's called in Sweden. That explains very much.

>> No.12205669

>>12205068
I thank your aspergers, for I was searching for it too

>> No.12205670

>>12205656

But the magazine [The Economist] see Japan in decline and the editorial board (not one person, but as a whole) think the only way to get back to strength is to liberalize immigration.

>> No.12205674

>>12205670

Well, of course they'd say that. They also said bailouts [corporate welfare] was good.

>> No.12205675

>>12205653
Can you make a screenshot of the website for me? I'm super paranoid.

>> No.12205676

>>12205661

>Why do you think UK and other western countries are shit holes? Maybe, it's because they're wrong about certain issues.

We're shitholes because our governments are corrupt. Our position on certain issues certainly don't help.

>>12205660

Look at that link. Wikileaks, the words "child porn," and that'll be in addition to the 4chan and the news sites.

It'll be like asking the police to come over and raid my shit. Or for the GCHQ to keep a VERY close eye on me.

>>12205658

Self-shots of under-18s are illegal to protect the under-18s from themselves. Under-18s are fucking idiots.

>> No.12205679

>>12205670
>liberalize immigration.
I really, really hope they don't make the same mistake we in Europe did.

>> No.12205680

>>12205670

ALRIGHT AND THAT IS BECAUSE THEYRE JEW SHILLS.

Japan is not a country with ample land. It's actually overpopulated as of now. It's an island that is full of marginal land. If 40 million people died off in japan it'd benefit the local economy once it became restructured.

Places like the U.S, which has a hard line against immigration, have so much abundant land it should be criminal. the U.S could support a population of china, the majority of the population would just live in something similar to living conditions of brooklyn.

>> No.12205681

>>12205675

looks like stuff u get from usenet, and you gotta pay.

>> No.12205681,1 [INTERNAL] 

feel when in your lifetime pedophilia will become socially acceptable and pedos will be the new SJW embraced by tumblr and we will get oppression points

>> No.12205685

>>12205676
>We're shitholes because our governments are corrupt. Our position on certain issues certainly don't help.

So, then don't be surprised when people don't take your moral judgements seriously.

>> No.12205681,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>12205680
>Places like the U.S, which has a hard line against immigration

are you joking

>> No.12205691

>>12205676
>We're shitholes because our governments are corrupt. Our position on certain issues certainly don't help.

It's not like the average person here is any better.

Most people here bandwagon onto whatever scaremongering / sensationalistic bullshit the government / mass media pushes within seconds.

>> No.12205685,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12205680
hahaha jesus christ you're retarded

>> No.12205692

>>12205676
>Look at that link. Wikileaks, the words "child porn," and that'll be in addition to the 4chan and the news sites.
>It'll be like asking the police to come over and raid my shit. Or for the GCHQ to keep a VERY close eye on me.
Use a VPN then. You're no better than the tumblrettes, raging, without acknowledging the other sides arguments. I'm not even interested in their shit, but hell, as I said. Dude makes some good points.

>> No.12205693

>>12205676
I don't know why you're trying to promote a moral stance on an issue when you very clearly have the idea that there's a gun to your head about it and that you can't even think otherwise.

>> No.12205694

>>12205676
>Self-shots of under-18s are illegal to protect the under-18s from themselves. Under-18s are fucking idiots.
Yeah, they should go to prison for possessing child pornography to protect themselves. Retarded.

In the US children are routinely convicted of manufacturing child pornography (of themselves). People who support criminalizing self-shots are idiots.

>> No.12205695

>>12205679

>the same mistake we in Europe did
>we

You imply the people had a choice.

It was a case of flood them in in the 90s, start the propaganda, and let it resolve itself.

Oh, how it resolved itself.

>> No.12205696

>>12205679
Europe isn't a single entity etc.

>> No.12205698

>>12205532
I value the absence of value and generalized conceptual negation. Ya got me, I guess.

>> No.12205699

>>12205696
Yeah but it happened in all the original member states, countires like Poland are free but not for long

>> No.12205704

>>12205680

uhh USA is not hardline when it comes to immigration. The only way it will be is if they roll back Immigration reforms of the 1980s, 1965, and amend the constitution to bar "anchor children"

>> No.12205705

>>12205698
I don't think you're actually fine with me torturing you and your mother. You just like to pretend.

>> No.12205721

>>12205679
Remember when opposing NAFTA meant you were racist? Boy, I love having hogshit handed to me and being told to eat it. Incidentally, this is literally what will happen to me in GITMO in a few years!

>> No.12205722

>>12205685
>>12205691
>>12205692
>>12205693
>>12205694

I get the point. But look, I am very scared, and that is why I am coming off as a moralfag. I don't want to use the wrong language and end up fucking myself over.

Just remember that this is what the UK is like. We fear the government. We know that it's not a question of if, it's when they decide that we're too dangerous and must be controlled. Our speech isn't free, our journalists are shills, our thoughts are rarely our own, and we don't have much freedom.

This country fucking sucks. I have to watch my language around everything, or I'll be called a racist, or a bigot, or a sicko, or a psycho, or whatever name they're calling people this week.

It's pretty much all I know. I don't want this fear any more, but habits die hard.

>> No.12205725

>>12205704

U.S has very firm quotas, still.

>> No.12205733

>>12205722

It's understandable if your scared since even a naked baby picture of yourself as a child is enough for a swat team.

Keep your head up is all I can say.

>> No.12205735

>>12205722
>But look, I am very scared

Retarded, more like. You make it more and more obvious every fucking post that you are some particularly stupid child expressing stupid opinions that aren't even your own.

Just shut the fuck up already.

>> No.12205736

>>12205705
Probably not, but I wouldn't go so far as to loudly and recklessly fabricate ideologies that represent that specific physical outcome as intrinsically "bad". There's a distinction between taking a set of actions to obtain a specific physical outcome and believing said outcome is of any inherent value or ethical/moral significance.

>> No.12205737

>>12205722
You're a fucking nobody on 4chan. The anus of the internet. The big man out there is not working his ass off to get especially you, just because you may post something "offensive" on a weeb board.

>> No.12205738

>>12205722

Paranoia allows them to win.

You need to take it more easily.

Outside of posting on Web 2.0, like a moron, nothing is going to happen.

>> No.12205741

>>12205722
Unless you pull a Thad nothing is going to happen to you.

>> No.12205742

>>12205722
That's kind of sad. Rest in rip, west.

>> No.12205760

>http://gu.com/p/3q849
Looks like the ones defend animu/mango exclusion are top rated comments.

Does anyone here have a habit that whatever mainstream media reports in a negative light, you start looking through and get into it anyway?

I have a feeling that the only thing mainstream media did was promote drawn lolicon and asian U## idols (a legal enterprise btw) to certain segments of the population who are currently stuck ogling at fugly and uncute (in my opinion) Eastern European equivalents.

>> No.12205761
File: 78 KB, 400x484, 0808-Sluggo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205761

>can children consent
shit tier

>what age is a child
virtuous unbaptized tier

>Are some pictures so powerful that they can sway people towards evil? Are enlightenment values defensible in the face of science and advanced mass psychology, or must they be ceded to human cultivation?
patrician tier

>> No.12205774

>>12205736
Okay, I'm just informing you you're not special and have values just like everyone else.

>> No.12205782
File: 15 KB, 569x251, Ishihara.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12205782

>>12204619
Sugoi!

>> No.12205800

>>12205782
Why does he hate obaa-chans so much? They are very nice people, even if they smell a bit.

>> No.12205822

>>12205782
>The most evil and damaging thing that civilization has brought is women who are old hags.

What a hypocrite!

>> No.12205823

>>12205654
Don't worry they'll shoot fido first, use that time to escape.

>> No.12205841

>>12205823
I take it you have experience?

>> No.12205852

>>12205841
That's like the one commonality of all these over-zealous or mistaken address swat raids. They always blow away the dog.

>> No.12205852,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12205680
if 40 million elderly died off it would be beneficial.

>> No.12205971

What the hell has happened to this thread? It's all European and US politics now. What the hell happened to the original topic of bad media practices?

>> No.12205988

>>12205971
Because people feel there's a link between what 'bad media practices' seem to target and US globalization and moralizing I guess.

>> No.12205994

>>12205971
>What the hell happened to the original topic of bad media practices?

It's not like this is a new topic anyways.

>> No.12206018

>>12204255
a photo was made of a real, breathing kid who was there and experienced the deed.

a drawing was made with a pencil and paper.

>> No.12206026

>>12206018
You realize he's not talking about child porn but instead modeling images, right? What are we gonna do arrest everyone at JCPenney because someone rubbed one out to the kid's clothes section of the catalog?

>> No.12206044

>>12204624
>And there is the fact that Japan has one of the lowest numbers of sexual crimes in the world so they are doing something right.
they don't actually. it's so low because women are shamed into silence, so they almost never report those.

>> No.12206048

>>12206044
That doesn't seem like something that could be proven or disproven, and anyway, that's adult women.

>> No.12206237

>>12205087
>murata
Dear god the lolis

>> No.12206302

>>12205230
>https://wikileaks.org/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn
>The United States is a respected democracy that over the years has permitted the use of torture - all this for a good cause and for the protection of the society. A prison society is growing quickly and is operated by the private sector. Approximately 2% of the population is serving a sentence, most of them in a prison. Private prison operators are even traded on the stock market and they are known to be very profitable and sustainable as more and more prisons are built and more and more people are put into prison (the amount of people in prison increases each year by 4%). "Producing" convicted criminals HAS BECOME A HIGHLY PROFITABLE INDUSTRY and more and more criminals have to be produced so that the money keeps coming. There are credible rumors of bribes from operators of the prison to the judges and prosecutors - they pay premiums for so-called new convictions that result in a prison stay. So you don't have to be so picky in any investigation, let alone employ qualified officers - this way there is always sufficient supply of people to put in prison - AND ESPECIALLY YOU HAVE TO CRIMINALIZE A LOT OF THINGS. Now, at this point, the reader should pause and do a little reflection on their part, and let this go once more through their brain. Beautiful, great democracy.
>SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN0727506220071007

FREEDOM

>> No.12206362

>>12205279
i blame neo feminism.

>> No.12206362,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>12205653
i can't even get hard to the videos since they put the most innocent, inocuous music on them and the girls are almost always smiling and giggling, even when they're meant to be in character (such as the serious-looking dom stuff).

Sometimes it feels like you're watching a fucking memorial video of a little girl who died, you just expect an "in loving memory" message to pop up at the end when the video fades to white. I cannot fap to this shit. Any w bros know this chair/kimocheelio?

>> No.12206362,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>12206362,1
I'm the same way with Japanese junior idols.
The music all sounds like its from the carnival in Chrono Trigger.

>> No.12206362,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>12206362,2
lmao sick reference
WARNING!! only gamers will understand ;)

>> No.12206362,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>12206362,3
Uhm, who are you?

>> No.12206362,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>12206362,3
damnm this guy is steaming

>> No.12206405

>>12205722
What in the world would happen if someone called you any of those names?

Tell them to go fucking eat a dick and be done with it. Names never killed anyone.

Fuck them.

>> No.12206411

>>12205610
All pictures or contact with children.

10 years from now if you don't absolutely fucking hate children loudly and publicly you'll be considered a pedophile.

>> No.12206423

>>12205610
Depends on country-to-country and state-to-state.

>> No.12206445

Translated Comic LO at your nearest bookstore.

>> No.12206471

>>12204605
If you were to run for president, I would vote for you.

>> No.12206738
File: 72 KB, 698x658, tsuruya_laugh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12206738

>http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/18/japan-bans-possession-child-abuse-images-excludes-comics-video-games-anime
>The new law requires internet providers and other such companies to co-operate with police in preventing and investigating distribution of child abuse images, which it defines as photos and videos that expose or focus on children's sexual parts.
Aha

Ahahahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHA

All they need to do to skirt the law is apply some sort of censorship filter. This is a total joke.

>> No.12206757

>>12206738

Surprised to see the majority of the comments are sensible.

>> No.12207410

http://kotaku.com/cnn-wonders-why-anime-child-porn-isnt-banned-in-japan-1593067362

Kotaku fail!


>>12205220
They are way too late!!!

>> No.12207413

>>12207410
What the fuck is anime child porn? If it's an anime, it's not a child. Do they let just anyone write these articles?

>> No.12207419
File: 112 KB, 646x727, 1354750443832.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12207419

>>12207413
It's Kotaku, so yeah basically.

>> No.12207439

>>12207419
Why is everybody writing articles for Kotaku so retarded?

>> No.12207467

>>12207439
kotaku is the weeaboo version of cnn. being a retard is a requirement to be allowed to write.

>> No.12207483

>>12204850

Why is /jp/ so fucking stupid when it comes to Twitter? Even otaku in Japan have a fucking Twitter and follow their favorite artists,circles,musicians and other otaku.

Why are you not following @hrrjp and @kenichiro_taka?

>> No.12207489

>>12207483
People in Japan also think Facebook is KUURU.

>> No.12207498

>>12207483
Fuck off, normie. Having a Shitter account is neither cool nor hip, and it's not like you have anything even close to 1/5 interesting to post about anyway.

>> No.12207503 [DELETED] 
File: 221 KB, 798x1000, shine-a-light-for-autism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12207503

>>12207498
>>12207489

>> No.12207601

>>12207498
So what? You just go on cool or hip sites? What are you doing here then? It's not like you have anything even close to 1/5 interesting to post about anyway.

>> No.12207730

>>12207413
They just screencapped /a/nons calling CNN out on their bullshit. It's not exactly like they supported CNN there.

Why the fuck am I having to defend Kotaku of all things.

>> No.12207873

>>12207730
>Why the fuck am I having to defend Kotaku of all things.
Because people don't think. Calling it 'anime child porn' is still stupid. I doubt they called the lastest Wolfenstein a 'Video Game Murder Simulator'. Getting down on a mag for not writing LOLI DOUJINSHI is pretty retarded.

>> No.12207966

>http://www.animemaru.com/all-other-issues-resolved-implies-cnn-report-on-hentai-manga/
Since when do they report real news.

>> No.12208075
File: 40 KB, 599x402, BqfwUj2CIAEKWAV.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
12208075

>>12207966
His father is fully aware. This picture is from 2006.

His Boss is fully aware of these too and who cares besides you?

>> No.12208079

>>12208075
Wrong Tab...

>> No.12208849

>>12207601
People who feel compelled to use such sites invariably have nothing of any significance to say. If I wanted to read lines of randomly generated text, I could likely create a program to do this for myself.

>> No.12208894

>>12204174
bump?

>>
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action