AKB48 Minegishi Minami

[Anonymous No.]

Have you heard yet? Of this original AKB48 members "crime" and her demotion to trainee? She spent the night with Alan Shirahama from the band GENERATION and was photographed sneaking out the next morning, a mask over her face. Within a day she was demoted from senior member to trainee. The announcement came via the Google + page of AKB48’s theater manager, Togasaki Tomonobu. He posted, “We have decided to demote Minegishi Minami to become a member of team Trainee as her punishment for causing nuisance to the fans because of this scandal. This demotion will take effect on February 1, 2013. Moreover, we will give more information about her schedule as soon as details have been decided."

She posted a follow up video on youtube with her head shaved
link: http://youtu.be/UlzrIgacADU

What do you think /jp/aners?

[Anonymous No.]

Here she is sneaking out with a mask over her face. I really dont know how you can tell that it is her.

[Anonymous No.]

They should really just let them have as much sex as they want. Controlling workers' private lives should not be legal.

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>>10426741

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I just read about this : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-as-21299324
Wtf? Nice human rights there Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

No, nobody has heard about it yet. It's not like we have a thread here to discuss these things without the interference of normalfags talking out of their asses. We were just waiting for your arrival, as one awaits a messiah.

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>>10436432

hehe you owned that n00blet

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>>10436428
Considering how the guy she's engaged with is a member of Exile, the thing would've caused trouble to his own agency as well. Nobody wants to be held accountable for another agency's issues, especially when it's caused by easily avoidable problems like being in a relationship.

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>>10434723

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I think she deserves no sympathy really.
If being an idol meant that much to her she would've stayed out of a relationship or at least been more discreet.
If being in a relationship meant that much to her she would've volunteered for graduation already.
You can't really have your cake and eat it in this business and she knew exactly what she was signing up for.

Much as you wouldn't pity a sports player fined/dropped for having a few drinks too many the night before a match, I don't pity her.
The head shaving stunt is merely a dramatic apology in the hopes that she can win people over again and remain marketable.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow more spam~

[Anonymous No.]

Time to add her name to my filter. It's a shame because I like her but I can't deal with being raided by normalfag crossboard scum.

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>>10436494
You are lucky I can't even filter her because my computer is broken and I'm forced to use a phone. I really wish these people would go talk about it somewhere else because nobody here cares anymore.

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>>10436417
Wow, the whores acting like the whores they have always been.

Nothing to see here

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>>10436431
>The condition for being part of such a successful act is that the girls must not date boys, so as not to shatter their fans' illusions.

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH AH HAHAH A DHA UHDA HUD UFHSFGUFHSDFDFU

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It's just a difference in culture. It was her decision to do it, if someone in the west did it they'd be seen as sad and pathetic. But in Japan it's a sign of being apologetic and humble.

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>>10436428
Look at this fucking fascist. She signed a contract and she broke it, deal with it.

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>>10436515
wota genocide best day of my life

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>>10436540
>normalfag media reporting about ultra-specific topics that would require years of close observation but are instead covered by absolute morons

Oh yeah, reminds me of when AKB publicized Eguchi Aimi as part of a publicity stunt and the Western media took up the news and started talking about it. Nobody had a clue of what or why they were even talking about it but in a matter of days ever site had at least one article about her because "everybody else does, why shouldn't we". The worst part was they couldn't even do any research but kept writing and writing until the matter died down some days later. For comedy's sake, here's The Young Turks taking their own personal spin to it, confusing her with Miku Hatsune, then describing her as a robot. Normalfag media should keep itself away from talking about these topics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNr1h8kYc

[Anonymous No.]

The only reason people care about this is because it's being as "Jpop superstar head shaved for sex scandal" when she did it herself to syltslay in the group (She's probably gonna end up like Kago Ai after AKB)

[Anonymous No.]

Every single person involved or associated with these kinds of groups is a fucking moron. The managers are perverts for creating the groups, the members are idiots for joining, and the fans are pathetic for expecting other human beings to conform to their fantasies.

[typical lit poster No.]

>>10436540
but that is why they don't date boys

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>>10436592
Get out normie. If she doesn't like it she can quit.

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>>10436591
God my typing is getting worse

*It's being spun as

*To stay in the group

Corrections^

But you can't win with the bandwagon public because if you want her to leave her "opressive" group you are just a creepy wota.

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>>10436597
They don't have to uphold the contract or pay for quitting?

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>>10436600
She signed a contract to do certain things, if she breaks it there are consequences. That's how these things work. Why would you agree to do something that you are too slutty to accomplish?

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>>10436595
if you can't see the rationale in distancing sexuality from a group whose youngest members are 14 years old, then I don't know what to say

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>>10436606
Do you still uphold the things you did as a teenager? How long does the contract last anyway? Don't know much about the legal stuff.

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>>10436592
What a cute, unique snowflake we have here. Nevermind this is only instance you have heard of this group, and in warped and heavily sensationalized context to boot, now you have seen the light and are a true intellectual. You haven't spoken to one fan, but you already know how all of them feel. You haven't met one of these idols but you already know everyone is a retard and their managers are perverts. Please, let your reasoning be obfuscated by cheap shock factors, base emotions and wolf pack mentality.

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Yuka was the hero we needed...she went out with respect.

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>>10436614
>How long does the contract last anyway?
As long as you want. And if you want you can just quit in 1 day.

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>>10436614
The contract is renewed every couple years. Go back to tumblr and whine about womyns rights.

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>>10436623
what are those?

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>>10436591
lol you think she did it herself and wasn't forced to do it by management. That's cute.

>>10436573
Idols practically are robots though in that they're expected to behave a certain way as what are essentially concepts rather than human beings with pre-programmed personalities as the airhead, the snarky one, the kiddish one, etc.

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>>10436595
Yes I know but the way they worded it cracked me up heartily

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>>10436631
Yes just keep shifting responsibility.

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>>10436631
you mean just like all manufactured pop groups???
stop the presses

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>>10436608
>distancing sexuality from a group whose youngest members are 14 years old
You think they give a shit about that? They were writing sexual as fuck songs for Momoe Yamaguchi back in the '70s because they know they idea of the cute, virginal jailbait girl offering herself up as a sexual reward for male fans is going to generate interest and sales. Shit hasn't changed at all outside of them being nowhere near as overt as they were with Momoe, the undercurrent of treating teenage girls as objects of sexual desire hasn't changed. It's just that with the rise of moe culture it's turned into the fantasy of being pure and also presenting oneself as being pure because there's a naivete there that the leering male fan can exploit. It's really fucking disgusting.

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>>10436631
>lol you think she did it herself and wasn't forced to do it by management.

The apologizing part? Maybe. The shaving part? Hell no.

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http://www.r3ddit.com/r/videos/comnts/17oq2i/in_japan_pop_star_idolare_forbidden_to_have/

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>>10436617
I don't really appreciate how she used a minor mishap to get out of the group, but it's clear she wanted out at all costs, since her interest in the group had waned over the last year.
It's telling how she didn't even bother to attend the Janken Tournament. Not to mention how she preferred to do rehearsals for her musical instead of taking part in the Tokyo Dome concert, even though performing there had been AKB's dream since their inception.
What bothers me is that she left without saying a "thank you" to anyone for all the years spent in the group, and that she singlehandedly killed DiVA in the process.
The latter, I cannot forgive her for since it was the best subunit of all.

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>>10436649

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Since when has 4chan ever cared about morals?

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>>10436645
At least in America pop idols have the freedom to actually pursue lives that aren't the manufactured fake ones made up by their talent agency. Nobody forced Miley Cyrus to shave her head, give a tearful apology, and then throw her into exile because she was dating a guy in his 20s when she was underage; we just thought "well that's kind of weird" and moved on. Nobody lost their shit about what a whore Selena Gomez was for dating Bieber.

In Japan you can have your career ended because you smoked a cigarette underage. That's on a whole different level of crazy "we expect our pop stars to live up to these standards" level of control to the point where even Japanese people are thinking that it's a load of horse shit she was forced to do this for having a boyfriend.

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>>10436673
They can quit and refuse to sign the contract if it's too hard for them to not take dicks in all holes.

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>>10436631
>Idols practically are robots though in that they're expected to behave a certain way as what are essentially concepts rather than human beings with pre-programmed personalities as the airhead, the snarky one, the kiddish one, etc.

HURR DURR DERP
Unlike you, who is pre-programmed to make snarky comments only fit for a 15 year old.

Do you even know what I was talking about? Because by your reaction, it seems you are in way over your head.

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>>10436664
I guess Jpop culture will be changing due to foreign pressures (Aka destroying idol groups) but do they realize that there are singers like Koda Kumi and Namie Amuro in the buisness?

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>>10436673
>Nobody forced Miley Cyrus to shave her head

And nobody forced Miichan to do it either.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is this website so shit? And why is the name of it censored?

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>>10436673
Yeah, the east is much more stringent with their rules. Does it shock you? Do you need them to conform to only your rules? Oh, just because we do it THIS way over here they can't do it THAT way over there?

And Minegishi wasn't forced to shave her head. Maybe they demanded an apology, but they definitely won't ask her to shave her head.

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>>10436693

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>>10436673
Come on though, I can't think of a single US pop star that has a shred of dignity.

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>>10436685
>foreign pressures

Someone posted a fluff article without knowing much about the matter, then some R3dditards posted another bunch of clueless comments about something they haven't even heard of until today. Yeah, we surely have an Armageddon right there. Especially knowing those same people have the memory retention of a goldfish. Make me.

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>>10436687
Keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread reeks of normalcy.

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>>10436707
Please don't use Britney as an example she is actually depressed and says her life has no passion. She is mentally ill and can't control her money/sign contracts (Her dad does it) and can't see her kids. She is the one American celebrity I feel sorry for because she was basically born into this world and can't leave.

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>>10436721
Is that supposed to mean anything? Are you just afraid you can't be proven right?

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>>10436704
seriously
taking away her hair is like taking away her ability to make aki-p money. oh you've got this girl, and this girl, and the girl who is bald. wait, what? is it a play to try to keep her fans still fans by making her look repentant?

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>>10436729
Fine, how about Lindsay Lohan, or Madonna?

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>>10436749
>lohan
drugs
>madonna
she's still doing okay, isn't she?

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>>10436751
Where do people like you come from?

[Anonymous No.]

i came here solely to laugh at you people when i heard about this

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>>10436749
Yeah they are just sluts.

[Anonymous No.]

Where the hell do these normals come from and how were they directed to /jp/?

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>>10436751
I.. I don't quite understand what you mean. Can you phrase it better?

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>>10436761
Madonna is almost as ancient as Cher. She should have stopped a long time ago.

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>>10436751
Cutting your hair to show remorse is a thing in Japan. It wasn't chosen arbitrarily, and there is a good chance she did it so it wouldn't hurt her image too much. It's kind of had the reverse effect, but in any case, it's not an attempt to make her ugly, or something.

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>>10436693
>>10436706
Jesus Christ these people are retarded. The producing company sells a product, that is the idol. You sign up to be this idol. If you ruin that image, they have every right to fire you or force you to apologize. It's no different than Charlie Sheen getting dropped because of all the controversy surrounding him. Love isn't sacred or special.

[Anonymous No.]

How long has it been since /jp/ got so retarded?
10, 15 minutes?

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>>10436814
it's been that way since your mom shit you out on the bricks at the /jp/ station

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>>10436831
Oh wow, got to love how they look like nothing happened.

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[Anonymous No.]

fuck's sake why don't they just make these girls take vows as mikos or nuns if they're going to push this celibacy thing so hard

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>>10436831
I never knew Tomomi had PS but when you look at older pics it's obvious.

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>>10436721
Okay, let's assume for a moment that this isn't true, despite you lacking any evidence of the contrary. Let's take for granted that all corporate suits are evil, morally bankrupt, absolutely corrupt individuals who don't care about the girls' lives except for the money they bring in. In short, let's assume that life in the entertainment world isn't much different than the worldview of an anarchoid punk from the '80s.
What money benefit is there to gain by letting -- no, wait, MAKING her shave her head?

While you're busing thinking up an answer, here are some sexy facts that might help you understand what an idiot you are.

- While the allegations of her having an affair with another pop singer only caused minor concern among fans, it's the fact she cut her hair in repentance that caused a negative reaction on their part. Contrary to what you want to think, none of them were screaming "YEAH SHAVE THAT WHOOOORE'S HAAAAIR" or were even calling for it in the first place. In fact, fans were the speak out and call her gesture extreme. The result was a general distrust toward her and her agency, which in financial term translates to less money revenue in the long run.

- Miichan is a member of no3b, one of the most notable and longest lasting subgroups in AKB. Of course, her shaving her own hair will cause a hit on the group's image since they regularly get to perform on TV and on music videos. Financially speaking, it's probably going to cause a loss of profits and popularity for the agency managing it, combined with a drop in CD sales.

- I can only imagine the number of magazines and publications dropping their contract offers at the news of her shaving her hair, and they have contracts with pretty much every magazine in Japan. Nobody want a photoshoot like that on their pages. As far as money goes, this means the agency lost an important source of money.

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>>10436850
So again, how FORCING her to shave her hair would've benefited them, assuming they're only in for the money?

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>>10436831
why isn't she crying. what the fuck

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>>10436831
Whenever I see that whores face, I just picture her with a males cum all over her body. She's damaged good.

I'm never buying another CD.

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>>10436831
Takamina will forever be a virgin, until she leaves akb. That is good enough for me.

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TIME FOR A WIG. which would defeat the point of shaving her head in the first place. conspiracy theorist in me wants to say she threatened to do it if they demoted her, they called her bluff, and she actually did it, and then they still demoted her.

>>10436859
brave front for the cameras

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>>10436865
Support Mayuyu and Paruru~

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>>10436831
And like clockwork, here comes the Hello!Project shill from morningcoffee to speculate on the plight of others. Nobody is going to follow Morning Musume, no matter how hard you sling your monkey shit.

Reported.

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>>10436831
takamina does not look impressed

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>>10436876
I was just about to make a joke about them stealing the spolight back.

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>>10436896
"Morning Musume: because our girls aren't sluts. Pick us over AKB!"

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>>10436865
>I'm never buying another CD.

It's not like you ever did. Stop pretending you are somehow familiar with the group, it's clear that 90% of the people who posted just saw an article on some normalfag media outlet and now want to act high and mighty using what little information they gathered.
It's mortifying I have to talk reason with these "people" as one would do with a fellow fan, knowing that half of what I say will fly over their head.

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>>10436902
Normalfags are upset at her company for enforcing her contract, I'm upset because I don't purchase albums music featuring sluts who can't close their legs.

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>>10436615
She wouldn't have shaved her head and posted that video if she wasn't expecting to be lynched by the fanbase. You can't justify this shit, no matter how hard you try.

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I wish I was an AKB member....

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>>10436916
Break your contract and there are consequences. She's a filthy slut and deserves much worse for doing this to her fanbase.

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The real question is why wasn't she kicked the moment her hair was shaved?

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>>10436896
>them stealing the spolight back

Oh, please. They wouldn't even be able to steal a lollipop from a blind, armless kid.

After AKB, only the deluge.

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>>10436925
You're a moron, and if you buy into this idol garbage you deserve to be castrated. Turds like you are the reason people who are into Japanese media get leery looks from others.

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>>10436942
Cry more slut. Why do you care about what normals thing?

>>>/cgl/

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>>10436940
There's only one group full of whores and I'm glad it's not the one I'm following.

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>>10436942
>Buy into sensationalistic garbage, be swayed by an article that only appeals to base emotions and avoids shedding light on real facts
>Pretend to be some sort of enlightened being who somehow understood it all

Ladies and gentlemen, we have the epitome of self-entitlement.
You pillocks have still a lot to learn before you should be allowed to express an opinion on the matter.

[Anonymous No.]

If there was an idol group full of traps called gaykb, would you guys be interested?

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>>10436989
No, I'm not gay.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ - misogyny

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>>10436948
Don't let the door slam on your ass when you leave.

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>>10436997
You're stupid. Leave.

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>>10436997
r3ddit - womyns rights

[Anonymous No.]

Are fans of Morning Musume or other idol groups becoming worried that the issue of love restriction is buzzing? Like are you going to blame AKB if feminists win out in the end and love bans are made illegal? You guys seem to value purity more than the average AKB otaku.

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>>10436997
Not really but you guys that "support" her have yet to talk about the guy (His fans are probably going crazy right now). In my opinion they should be thrown out for their part in this stain on their industry.

[Anonymous No.]

This is ludicrous. I sure hope the commentators and fans are against this.

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>>10436906
I can just imagine the mental pain you went through when deciding whether or not to download Sasshi's single.

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>>10437026
>>>/tumblr/

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>>10437026
against what exactly? publicity stunts?

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>>10437026
Against whores who break their contracts? Of course.

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why is there so much normalshit here now

go away

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>>10437037
Stop calling her a whore. She didn't do anything wrong.

>contract
what contract? Post it or fuck off.

>>10437036
Nobody would generate BAD PR. I'm not even a marketing major and I know you shouldn't generate bad blood.

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>>10437026
I'm a fan and I'm against self-inflicted publicity stunts.

In b4 some ranting retard walks in claiming that OHHBOOBOO THEY FORCED HER TO DO IT. Because it surely fits with the penalties other rule-breaking members had to go through, sure.

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>>10437056
Idols sign a contract saying they won't engage in sex or have boyfriends. If you're cocklust prevents you from fulfilling the contract, then don't sign it. But don't blame other people for your slutty behavior.

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>>10437060
>shave your fucking head or you will be kicked from the group and fade into irrelevancy/AV

yeah she made the choice with no pressure from management whatsoever, sure

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>>10437056
>Stop calling her a whore. She didn't do anything wrong.

She took a cock inside her.

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>>10437068
>Idols sign a contract saying they won't engage in sex or have boyfriends.

That's bullshit and probably violates a couple basic human rights.

>cocklust
>slut

stop saying that, you're making all of us look bad. You may think its funny but someone may see this and won't get that you're not serious.

>>10437080
So did your mum. Do you kiss your mum with that mouth?

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>>10437060
This can't be a PR stunt.

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>>10437086
>That's bullshit and probably violates a couple basic human rights.

You're fucking stupid. She agreed to do certain things and didn't fulfill the contract and thus got punished.

>you're making all of us look bad

Please stop trying to pretend you belong here.

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>>10437086
>mum

How'd I know that you were a yuropoor?

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>>10437080
What if she loves him? What if she's never had sex with anyone else? Are you really going to judge a girl so harshly for making one very human mistake? She's not a robot. She has desires and needs.

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>>10437106
If she desires cocks more than her job, she's free to leave. Until then, she has a contract to uphold.

Was this thread posted on tumblr or something?

[Anonymous No.]

This is the kind of thing that shows Japan is still a turd-world shithole.

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>>10437092
>You're fucking stupid. She agreed to do certain things and didn't fulfill the contract and thus got punished.

Contracts do not supersede federal law.

>Please stop trying to pretend you belong here.
That's not what I'm doing. If you keep this kind of language up you'll invite people from /a/, /b/ or /v/.

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>>10437119
There's no law against requiring your employee to maintain a certain image. If they don't like it they can fucking leave.

>>10437118
This is the kind of post that shows you just came here from leredd1t.

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>>10437086

This brings up an interesting point. A wota said having sex with non-virgins is "gay" because
you'd come in contact with fluids of the last guy she had sex with.

But the mothers of these wotas likely had sex with one or more men before they met their fathers and gave birth to them so that means all these wotas are gay.

[Anonymous No.]

She was too old to be cute anyways

She should have been forced into graduation a long time ago

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>>10437126
Surely a contract that regulates an employees sexual behavior can't be enforceable? Does japan have protection of privacy?

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>>10437079
What are your proof that this ever happened, praytell. Did you personally place some bugs inside the AKS offices and heard the conversation firsthand? If this is how they deal with scandals, why is it the first time it happens? Because this is surely not the first time an idol gets caught dating and is not dismissed for it. Seems like you don't know enough about the entertainment world to justify your mistrust for it.

>fade into AV
Oh just quit this shit, you stupid human turd. We all know that all you heard about AKB from normalfag media is two things (Miichan shaving her head and some member who left the group 5 years ago starring in a porn) and now you're trying to combine what little information you have in any way possible. Don't make it painfully obvious I'm talking with someone who's just trying to bluff people into thinking he's an expert of sorts.

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>>10437141
It's perfectly enforceable. Why are you such a fascist? She's an adult and consented to a contract, no need for some government officials to tell people what they are allowed to do.

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>>10437119
>Contracts do not supersede federal law.

What law forbids demanding in your employee contracts that they uphold a certain demeanor to sell the company image?

>That's not what I'm doing. If you keep this kind of language up you'll invite people from /a/, /b/ or /v/.

But you're already here, please leave.

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>>10437126
>No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

That's article 5 of universal human rights.

Shaving a woman's head and having her humiliated on a public scale is cruel, inhumane and degrading.


> No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

Article 12.

So tell me again, when did some shitty Jap idol agency get the power to invade her privacy and publicly humiliate her ?

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>>10437079
What are your proofs that this ever happened, praytell. Did you personally place some bugs inside the AKS offices and heard the conversation firsthand? If this is how they deal with scandals, why is it the first time it happens? Because this is surely not the first time an idol gets caught dating and is not dismissed for it. Seems like you don't know enough about the entertainment world to justify your mistrust for it.

>fade into AV
Oh just quit this shit, you stupid human turd. We all know that all you heard about AKB from normalfag media is two things (Miichan shaving her head and some member who left the group 5 years ago starring in a porn) and now you're trying to combine what little information you have in any way possible. Don't make it painfully obvious I'm talking with someone who's just trying to bluff people into thinking he's an expert of sorts.

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>>10437141
You do realize that it's not her agency nosing into her private matters, right? It's paparazzi snitching on it, then publishing their reports on scandal tabloids and embellishing them with malicious details. This is how people, including the agency, apprehend that an idol must be dating. Jesus Christ, I knew normalfags were subliterate, but sometimes I wish they were just pretending to be stupid.

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>>10437164
>Shaving a woman's head and having her humiliated on a public scale is cruel, inhumane and degrading.

None of the previous punishments for the people who broke the rules have been like this, she did it on her own.

It wasn't the agency you dumbass, it was a weekly tabloid that stalked her.


Please just leave and end yourself.

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>>10437164
>Shaving a woman's head and having her humiliated on a public scale is cruel, inhumane and degrading.

Her choice.

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>>10437164
>Shaving a woman's head and having her humiliated on a public scale is cruel, inhumane and degrading.

None of the previous punishments for the people who broke the rules have been like this, she did it on her own.

>when did some shitty Jap idol agency get the power to invade her privacy and publicly humiliate her ?

It wasn't the agency you dumbass, it was a weekly tabloid that stalked her.


Please just leave and end yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437164
I guess subhumans aren't even capable of reading. She chose to shave her head.

[Anonymous No.]

Question of the day

Why is she not fired?

No arguing or taking sides she is just causing trouble for a lot of people and a line needs to be drawn somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

It's gross that just because she dates some guy they make her shave her head. Japan is fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

Shitty sluts who make shitty music. Dunno why this crap is so popular on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437203
The agency is probably gauging the public's reaction before going any further.

>>10437207
Samefag harder queerbait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437196
>>10437195
>she did it on her own.

With absolutely no coeercion from the powers that be right? How fucking deluded are you?

>It wasn't the agency you dumbass, it was a weekly tabloid that stalked her.

I'm not talking about the photos you fucking idiot, I'm talking about the contract that invades her privacy. She has to swear to chasity before getting hired? That's an invasion of her private life.

[Anonymous No.]

Funny thing, shaving head in Japan was reserved only for nobles and clergy

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437207
>make her

Does it really pain you so much to think that the decision came entirely on her part? Does the tought that the "victim" might be doing it for attention somehow destroy a perfect argument in favor of feminazism?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437213
She said she wouldn't do something, and she did it anyway. Contract broken.

Her punishment was demotion. End of story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437208
Thank you for showing us once again that the real animals out there are the normalfags, not the much-reviled idol fans. We'll take that into account for our future discussions.

[Anonymous No.]

Humans should be able to do anything they want if they are not directly harming anyone. Who cares what someone does in their private life. Its 2013

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437203

They're pandering to a niche of subhumans who'll like her more even more because she's so distraught and repentant for daring to be seen with another man and now they think she owes them something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437222
>Contract broken.
Her contract violates basic human rights and therefore is null. End of story.

Again, when did a shitty contract supersede basic human rights.

[Anonymous No.]

That's it, I'm emailing moot to make him get rid of idol bullshit from /jp/. I can't stand the sight of all those idolfags getting mad and owned ITT. Enjoy getting excluded from 4chan, losers.

[Anonymous No.]

This slut raised the bar for attention whoring, the next scandal must result in amputated pinkies.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are there so many normalfags on /a/ and /jp/?

Like /a/ alright but /jp/ seriously has this many faggots around? I would think that /jp/ would be like the last great bastion of anti-normalfag thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437213
>With absolutely no coeercion from the powers that be right?

You 'tard still here?
Why don't you answer this post
>>10436850
>>10436855
before we take this discussion to your own stupid, illogical conclusions.

[Anonymous No.]

I think it's a vast conspiracy to boost AKB48's popularity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437255
stop using normalfag, you sound like a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437140

>But the mothers of these wotas likely had sex with one or more men before they met their fathers and gave birth to them

I was typing up a wall of text but realized I had no good response. Goddammit. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437203
>>10437231
Yeah see this is what I don't agree with.

Personally I'm not beta enough to ever forgive her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437238
There's a new reality tv show where a bunch of people vow not date or have sex. It goes on until the last person gives up. Is that a violation of human rights?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437203
Because they are fucking hypocrites and know she can still make money for them. Just like Sashihara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437255
It's just one person from tumblr samefagging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436831
She did a shit job at shaving her own hair. Some people just can't do anything right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437231
Pathetic ad homines and implied implication might make your post edgy, but it won't win you any discussion outside of the comfort zone that is R3ddit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437255
Tell me what's your poison and show me how abnormal you are.

[Anonymous No.]

I understand the appeal of a pure idol but personally, if someday my oshimen ever decides to have sex or a boyfriend I wouldn't care, I'd be a little sad at the fact that it wasn't me (of course I know it's a delusional thought) I just want her to be happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437245
Fuck off. AKB shitters are the newfags of the idol world, other groups don't need to suffer because these idiots can't handle a scandal.

>>10437249
Popularity doesn't work that way in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437106
I have desires and needs to.

None of them have ever been met. Men in prison have desires and needs too. Sometimes they rape other men. I haven't done that, myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437238
It doesn't violate human rights. This type of contract is normal for all idol groups and has been for a long time.

When are you going back to your homeboard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437263
They willfully went in and they can willfully come out. So no. A contract is binding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437245
You sound like a kid crying for their mother because you got bullied by the fat kid next door

[Anonymous No.]

Please janitor this spam is becoming horrid and it's bringing unwanteds.

On a normal day she would have been called a slut and 1 or 2 idol haters would post and this would fall off the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437278
She willfully signed the contract, and she is free to leave anytime she pleases.

Having a boyfriend is not a human right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437227
You're stupid, see here >>10436443 for the further ramification this scandal might take.
Also, try going to office wearing a wifebeater when a certain dressing code is in place. Or try having a few drinks before playing the next big football game. The two things might either get you fired or be penalized by your boss. Ever fucking workplace has its own set of rule, the whole "I can't do everything I want" will not fly because every slip-up will lead to a consequence for the agency employing you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437273
Oh, its been going on for a long time? That makes it ok then!

[Anonymous No.]

No wonder Japanese are dying out if this is how they react to sleeping with someone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437283
Privacy is everyone's right /b/itch

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437255
/jp/ is not your super secret tree house where you can fellate your unwashed dicks with other losers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437287
>>10437285
>>10437289
>>10437284
When are you leaving?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437285
They should make fun of people who don't have sex they are killing japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437255
This is a board to discuss Japanese stuff. This is Japanese stuff; if you don't like it just hide the thread - otherwise fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

You retarded crossboarders are do not even understand the situation she is getting hate for the video not sex. She begged to stay in the group and thats why she shaved her head. I know you all wish to cast her as the victim of bullying by wota but she is just a desperate slut with no other job offers.

[Anonymous No.]

Denying the sexual freedom of women has no place in the 21st century.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437270
>H!O pariah thinking they can boss someone over and call someone "newfag"
>90% of the H!P fans didn't know the group until 2010 or later

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437295
1/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437290
I'm a regular poster here. I'm not going anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437290
I've been here longer than you and I'm not going anywhere, why don't you take your woman hate back to /v/ or /b/.

We hate bullying here in /jp/, if you support bullying then you don't belong here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437292
>/jp/ - otaku culture

I see you can't read

[Anonymous No.]

I want the idols out of /jp/. By monday

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437301
>>10437299
Enforcing a contract isn't bullying. Lying is bullying which is what she did by promising to not do something and then doing it thus indirectly spitting in the face of her company and fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437287

Then sue the tabloid that reported the scandal and insinuated that she's using her connection with male performers to organize massive grokons, do not blame the agency. Is it too hard for you to understand? Or can't you cope with the fact that the culprit isn't who you initially thought?

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is a ploy to get idol threads out of /jp/. Do not be fooled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437302
To make room for the Jr. idols?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437306
>public humiliation isn't bullying
>Invading her privacy isn't bullying
>Firing her for her private life isn't bullying.
>Infringing on her human rights isn't bullying

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437324
She chose to shave her head.
She signed a contract promising to uphold a certain image.
It's not her human right to have a boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

Please, do not compare this to what happened to Britney Spears.

The latter had serious issues to deal with, including medias saying any kind of shit and rumors about her while she was still a teen, don't giving a damn thing about the consequences of such action on a young person.

I don't think this is the case.

Idols are treated with respect.
Japanese mainstream media could appear weird to Westerners sometimes, but they still have the sense of DIGNITY at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437324
For everything you do there are consequences.

You guys can try to make her into a survivor of social injustice if you want but she honestly just a girl who cared more about sex than her group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437324
>public humiliation isn't bullying
Shaving her head was her own decision.
>Invading her privacy isn't bullying
In this case, the bully is the tabloid.
>Firing her for her private life isn't bullying.
Nobody's getting fired, get your facts straight.
>Infringing on her human rights isn't bullying
Every workplace has its own set of rules, deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437327
>She chose to shave her head.
She was coerced.
>She signed a contract to uphold a certain image
Contract is null. It violates basic human rights
>It's not her human right to have a boyfriend.
It is her right to live however she wants within the bounds of the law without fear of persecution.
>Nobody's getting fired, get your facts straight.
Demoted to a deadend position is as good as firing. They know they can't fire her so they're making her do the stupid jobs and low pay until she quits. It's a way companies take when they know they're legally in the wrong and can't fire somebody.
>Every workplace has its own set of rules, deal with it.

Work place rules don't infringe on personal privacy.

I'm saying human rights, because Japan is a soveriegn nation with it's own laws. Truth of the matter is if they pulled this shit on an American they'd get sued so bad they'd bleed money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437332
The funny thing is that Britney has ALWAYS been a victim but has got shit on by media for 20+ years.

This girl is just big because everyone is responding to her overreacting and lack of critical thinking skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437354
>She was coerced.
Got any proof of it? Don't give me any of that "c'mooon man, we all know she was forced" bullshit because all the arguments so far are against you. Also, burden of proof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437354
It doesn't violate shit you fucking retard. You're just making things up to validate your little social justice crusade. She couldn't control her cocklust and violated her contract. She put her desire for dick ahead of her group and career.

Her choice.

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>>10437363
>burden of proof
It's on you to prove that she did it of her own free will with no coercion. Common sense will dictate that public humiliation isn't something a normal woman would do under normal circumstance.

>>10437368
>Making up things

Bullshit, it literally takes five seconds on google to verify the existence of laws that prohibit this sort of thing and the rights of hers that's been violated.

Don't play that card with me when google is a click away from verifying my arguments and sources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437324
2 of them are delicts, the other 2, in normal circumstances and in a normal country, are delicts too. Not bullying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437354
>Demoted to a deadend position is as good as firing.

Sayaka also self-demoted herself from Team K captain for a short while, due to a similar scandal. It didn't change anything. The demotion never came into effect if not symbolically and during the demotion she was still holding her position within the group and her activities weren't halted in the slightest.
Normalfag, please go. You obviously have no knowledge of the precedents and without them you have no say in the matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>She was coerced.
Don't make up fantasies
>Contract is null. It violates basic human rights
Which human rights? The right to have sex?
>It is her right to live however she wants within the bounds of the law without fear of persecution.
Then don't be an idol.
>Demoted to a deadend position is as good as firing. They know they can't fire her so they're making her do the stupid jobs and low pay until she quits. It's a way companies take when they know they're legally in the wrong and can't fire somebody.
That is her punishment for not being a proper idol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437354
She was free to leave her job any time she wanted if she felt the contract was too restrictive. Instead she chose to violate its terms, knowing full well the possible consequences of doing so. If she wasn't okay with this kind of thing then she shouldn't have gotten into the business, I think most people would know what they're going to be in for by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437372
>It's on you to prove that she did it of her own free will with no coercion.

Then read the thread from the start, I'm not going to repeat the same things over and over again.
You can't make statements without solid proofs to back them.

[Anonymous No.]

『明日大阪で握手会、明後日仙台で握手会、来てね』と言って、飛んで来てる男なんかいない。
彼氏でも旦那でも、そんな男は、いない。
ファンだけです、 そんな我儘に付いて来てくれるのは。
だから恋愛は、絶対に隠さなければいけない。
それがファンへの礼儀です。

Anyone translation please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437372
>It's on you to prove that she did it of her own free will with no coercion.

She stated that it was her choice. What evidence do you have to the contrary?

>it literally takes five seconds on google to verify the existence of laws that prohibit this sort of thing and the rights of hers that's been violated.

Are you a lawyer? If this is illegal then why has it never been challenged before? It's not like this is the first time it's happened, but I guess you wouldn't know that considering you know dick about Idol culture and are only here because you saw an article on tumblr.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437389
Get the fuck back to /morningcoffee/, harokasu scum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437383
>I'm not going to repeat the same things over and over again.

Same here, Ive been repeating myself.

>solid proofs
Yes, because the agency isn't going to try to cover this up. We're not going to get any confession from them, we're going to have to infer and until you give me a good reason why a person would publicly humiliate themselves for no reason, with the blessing of the agency using their youtube channel, then I won't consider that she did this to herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437394
Literally five fucking seconds on google. Five. Seconds.

>She stated it was her choice.
You're an idiot if you think this was her choice with no pressure whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437416
They have courts to interpret the law, not people on an imageboard. There is no evidence that the consensual contract she signed broke the law.

>You're an idiot if you think this was her choice with no pressure whatsoever.

So in other words you have no evidence besides "my feelings :((("? Just kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437416
The only "pressure" they could put on her was the possibility of losing her job. Given that she violated the terms of her contract originally that is more than fair, they could have just cut her loose without going through all this bullshit. She had every option to leave rather than subject herself to it, she chose to stay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437408
So it's the typical conspiracy theorist's reasoning?
"Jews and Reptilians caused 9/11 but of course there's no proofs because they covered everything up with their holograpic technology"? And you're the one calling me delusional, for fuck's sake.

>give me a good reason why a person would publicly humiliate themselves for no reason
The "no reason" is actually that other, unrelated agencies and other, unrelated members were mentioned in the tabloid article and this didn't cause trouble only for herself, but also for all parties involved. Did you even read the original article, or did a friend of you give you a link of the YouTube video along with a trumped-up description of what happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436623
You're a pretty sick in the head fella.

[Anonymous No.]

Idols have always been banned from dating, it's just how it is. This stupid shit is now the #1 story on BBC.

At least AKB don't get molested like Johnny's do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437435
Nice argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437439
If only they bothered to expand on the background information.
That BBC article seems to have been written by a clueless idiot, it's the chief reason foreign news are best left on foreign newspapers.

Might as well post this link here:
http://www.akb48wrapup.com/2013/01hunkan-bunshun-reports-akb48-mineshi-minami-had-sleepover-with-a-mber-of-exiles-brother-group/

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437389
No men would fly from Osaka one day and Sendai the next (this is several hundred miles) to go to multiple handshake events. Boyfriends and husbands won't do that. The only ones who will go along with that selfishness are the fans. So, any relationships have to be hidden. That is just good manners towards all the fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437408
> a good reason why a person would publicly humiliate themselves for no reason

Because she doesn't want to lose what she's built up for all of her working life. Because being seen as a shameless bitch is death in this industry. Because public apologies are the norm in Japan, and the more groveling the better. Don't talk about this shit when it's clear you have no experience with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437467
>No men would fly from Osaka one day and Sendai the next (this is several hundred miles) to go to multiple handshake events.

Except nobody does that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437469
Some dedicated fans will. In any case, I only translated what was posted.

[Anonymous No.]

>ITT: Virgins cares a lot about their idols's virginity

[Anonymous No.]

this was just an stunt for akb being discussed everywhere and expanding its popularity even more around.
they plotted a shitty event where they could get more people interested in them.
too bad it seems to be working.

I mean a girl fucks and get exposed and shaves her head to apologize the fans? oh no, ny stomach full for that kinda shit.

[Anonymous No.]

If you knew anything about her, you'd know that she WOULD shave her own head. She is like one of the clowns of the group. And I don't mean being a jokester. She would let snot slip out of her nose if it would make people laugh. It's not that she has no dignity; she is dignified in the eyes of fans because she would forgo her appearance in order to be entertaining. Before this scandal, her fans would probably say they liked her for her professionalism rather than her cuteness. Which is why so many fans will insist that she wasn't coerced into shaving her own head. Because it's not something that she would feel deeply shameful for. If it were another member, I think more fans would say she was forced to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder about jap little/young girls's reaction on this scandal.
No matter how glitter and ganbare speeches they put, this shit is fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437501
>>10437522
Go back to where you belong

[Anonymous No.]

>ITT leftist social justice warriors defending a random slut they didn't know 48 hours ago.

[Anonymous No.]

Wotas feel powerful forcing to a young girl into pretend to be a virgin and later shaving her head in search if their aproval.
It's the only kind of empowerment they can get

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437535
>having sex
>slut

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437536
Leftists feel inferior so they take out their anger on those who they perceive to be in positions of power over others but in reality they are just insecure and upset.

I hope one day you will mature and realize that adults are responsible for their actions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437544
Leave it to an upset normie to resort to "epic memes" they found on tumblr.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437545
>adults
You mean manchildren

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437557
I'm referring to the idol being responsible for her actions and the violation of her contract. Please learn to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437501
The only ones getting riled up here are normalfags who read some article on a mainstream site, didn't get informed of what the original tabloid article showed or said, and now are running around thinking that it's standard practice for idol agencies to FORCE (this verb is important, it's where the entire argument hinges on) to shave their head for wanting to date.

So no
>ITT: Feminazi care a lot about a skewed report on a group they ignored until now

[Anonymous No.]

It's nice to see that sluts still get shamed like they deserve somewhere in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437522
Your post pretty much admits you don't know any Japanese, so what point in asking when all you're going to get is similarly clueless responses or filtered information?

[Anonymous No.]

So is this one of those threads where something "controversial" happens and Western idiots who don't even know Japanese filter it through their Western feminist cultural perspective and complain about things they don't understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437577
Nail on the head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437544
I am not a boy and am not attracted to women. She is a slut and created a media storm that might put Mayuyu's (And other members) career on the line all because she was a horny slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437225

Yeah, sure. Be proud because you're were jew-trapped into an industry which makes hollywood look like some fucking underground club, scum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437536
>forcing

Ahahaha, oh wow.
The only sort of influence we have over the group is when we get to vote for our favorite songs on the yearly Request Hour. The fact you are blaming me for being a bully just because you really wanted to use your ad-hominems is simply surreal. You are becoming more and more idiotic with every post.

[Anonymous No.]

What's so wrong about NTR? Japan loves that shit. It's part of their culture and they should accept it, much like groping girls on the train, saying itadakimasu before eating food, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

its true it is her fault, but at the same time its easy to sympathize with her. the contract is bullshit to begin with, but like everyone said it was her choice. you people need to calm down and stop being harsh, its completely understandable she would do that.

[Anonymous No.]

Please try not to import your Western views of things like "misogyny" when discussing happenings in an Eastern culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437592
I'll remember that next time I download their newest single or watch the latest variety show for free on the Internet. Those greedy, greedy people really have their hands deep inside my wallet. I have been caught unwittingly and I have to thank the moral guardians of the net for making me realize it.

[Anonymous No.]

I want Mayuyu to shave her head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437604
The contract isn't bullshit just because it hurts your feelings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437631
Hopefully Mayuyu will keep her interests 2D only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437631
She doesn't look good with short hair. That Bimyo skit was proof of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437648
I just want her to shave her head, not be a slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437642

contract is complete bullshit... was made just to cater to tons of delusional fans. its naturally for people to have boyfriends/girlfriends thats actually how the real world works :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437544
Theres a film called ruby sparks. Its pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437661
>:)

I want non-4channers to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437623

It speaks volumes that you aren't even capable to grasp the meaning of a very basic sentence while trying to conceal your lack of intelligence by superficial irony, scum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437661
>was made just to cater to tons of delusional fans

Fans are the first people to realize that their idols might be dating and have come to deal with it. Sometimes reality isn't a representation of the stereotypes you come up with in your mind, normalfag-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

Clara Meadmore is the purest woman in the world. She is almost 110 and attributes her long life to her chastity.

Virgins - 1
Sluts - 0

[Anonymous No.]

I work in the Japanese music industry,

and you all AKBfags have pretty much ruined the Japanese music industry.

You turned my job into shit. Shit like AKB48 is ruining Japanese music and there is no chance in hell for good Japanese music to go back to the charts.

AKBfags along with Johnnyfags can go fuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437661
Please try not to view happenings in an Eastern culture through your ignorant Western perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437701

really how about you actually try proving me wrong instead of spouting nonsense, that actually is the reason its part of the contract.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437698
lol yeah, the reason its in the contract really has nothing to do with the fans and their image of the idols. ok kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437700
Who cares it's still better than when Ayumi Hamasaki was super popular. Unless we can go back to the 70s/80s with singers like Yumi Arai then I would rather have AKB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437721
>Unless we can go back to the 70s/80s

but then i wuldnt be alive LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437700
If your enjoyment of a song depends on how high it ranks on the sales charts, then you probably don't care about the song in the first place. Whatever your obscure piece of shit hipster group is, I'll be glad to bury it into further irrelevance and I promise to do my part next time the chance arises. Now off to listening to DiVA, because sales numbers aren't a life-breaking problem for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437721

Dude, we need to go back to the 70's and 80's.

Back then, you have the likes of Toshiki Kadomatsu and YMO. Also, there were tons of enka and traditional music singers on the charts too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437714
If you knew how packed the schedule of an idol actually is, you'll know that there's a bunch more reasons to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437730

Fuck you. I want 90's J-rock to go back to the charts.

I mean, the UK has the likes of LCD Soundsystem and Bloc Party, and what does Japan have? Johnny's and AKB48 crap.

Also, where are the Kei Oguras of today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437707
I don't have to prove anything "wrong," because you are taking the situation out of its context and interpreting it through a Western perspective. Nothing you have to say about it matters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437745
>>10437751

regardless of anything you say it is a reason for being on the contract. it doesn't matter if there are other ones, and "time" is a horrible example to begin with. even if their schedule was "packed" your acting like its not possible to balance it out. if they cared about their career they would easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437763
Yes of course it's a reason. And what of it? What does it matter if it offends your Western sensibilities? They don't give a fuck what you think and your opinions don't matter there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437714
>lol
Did you really just laugh out loud there as you typed that?
I hate you so much, and I don't even know you.

You obviously aren't from this board and yet here you are trying to preach to us about what is right and wrong. I'll have you know that I won't listen to your shitty views on this topic. My views are obviously superior to yours, and I'm sure you feel the same way about your own stupid opinion.
I can accept this fact, you obviously cannot
Why do you have to be such an asshole?

Why not spew your femnazi bullshit at some religion. I hear some girls get their clitoris removed so that they cannot enjoy sex in some cultures. They have no freedom of choice.
Please go make a thread about that, somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437772
yes i actually did laugh out loud when i typed that

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437784
I knew you would respond only to that.

Well, enjoy trying to preach your views to this shithole. No one will ever listen to an obvious cross boarder in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437796
the only thing that makes that contract valid is the fact they agreed to it. i already said its her fault, so your pretty fucking stupid. nor does it "offend" me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437803
Not the guy you're talking to, but holy shit you're fucking retarded. Kill yourself out of here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437690
Next time try using actual words to express your (frankly worthless) opinion, because "jew-trapped" sure is not a word of the English dictionary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437803
Actually you're pretty stupid.
You are quoting text from a post that is not even mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437812
its funny how people can only throw mindless insults instead of actually making a point. you honestly all act like animals, and its laughable how you place emphasis on being a "cross boarder" or being a member of 4chan when it doesnt fucking matter to begin with. grow up

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437816
your all the same to me, literally like a pack of animals. theres no different or variation between any of you

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437816
i knew that, its called i dont care.. guess your pretty stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437536
oh man those wota faces
i thought i was a pretty hardcore nerd but wotas put me to shame

[Anonymous No.]

ill go back to redd!t where at least i can have meaningful discussion..

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437832
Took you some time to get the fuck out and be a moron somewhere else, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437840
your all fucked up in the head, fuck you pathetic loers

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437840
i am by far the smartest person on this board, as ive proven im actually the only person that can even state my opinion , or make a statement thats not a blind insult. btw that wasnt me >:D

[Anonymous No.]

We poplar on akb48matome nao

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437848
<== more mature, handsome, intelligent and talented than the collective of jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437699
You seriously think long life is a pro on a board constantly trying to commit suicide?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437844
No sir you are the pathetic one. I am a God.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437850
yeah niggahs we hot up in hurr
gotta take off all our clothes like micchan
bikiniiiiiiiiiiiiiii timeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437850
Fug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437850
>熱い

笑

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437815
>"jew-trapped" sure is not a word of the English dictionary.

No shit, you brainless zombie? It sure took a lot of time for you to check this. And yet your reply doesn't even reach the tip of something which could be called a retort, not to mention a logical chain of arguments. Instead, you're using 7 graders tactics to distract from your mental retardation. Quite pitiful, but not unexpected.

And now proceed to grope in the darkness, tortured by the question "What did he mean, anyway?". It sure is funny as hell, dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437827
Could not agree with this more....

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437850
I doubt anyone will care enough to click the link.

[Anonymous No.]

>I doubt anyone will care enough to click the link.

俺クリックした

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437919
I'm trying to find a semblance of a point in your post, but all I see is just a mess of words and some half-baked attempt at self-entitlement. Funny you call me a 7th grader when you can't even come up with a real word and have to make one yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

There is also a shame of akb, Japan is also a shame

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437950

I won't help you if you still are not able to understand the initial post. I'm not your special school teacher.

>mess of words

Yeah. All these, like, bunch of words, y'know?

>Funny you call me a 7th grader

"Mirror! Mirror!"

You're reaching new heights, dude. Keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437968
Every citizen of Japan should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437971
>I won't help you if you still are not able to understand the initial post.
You're making some point about how he's been "jew-trapped" into the industry, but nobody is able to take you seriously because you expect a post like that be taken seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437971
How long do I have to humor you before you go away?

[Anonymous No.]

I think suicide is her only option.

[Anonymous No.]

AAA+++ Quality journalism you can trust

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437980

Like I care what you think of my post. Go back into the corner and don't look in my direction.

>>10437986

Sorry, I know it's not nice to bully the retarded. You can continue your cultural garbage circle jerk.

Maybe one day you'll realize what I meant. Ganbatte!

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438006
I hate western news....but I hate the Japanese tabloid readers more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438006
The masochist in me wants to go read the comments on ABC. I must resist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437648
She talks about her boyfriend all the time though....

[Anonymous No.]

Why the bloody fuck is this thread still so active? It's just an attention whore doing it for publicity and gaining sympathy points after people found out what a slut she is. Divert attention from being a slut to 'possible' victimization by AKB management and earn sympathy from the public.

[Anonymous No.]

Every Western Media has AKB48 on their front page.

Did she go too far by shaving her head? Yes.

But I NEVER SAW AKB48 on front page news in England before.

So who's laughing now? Even bad PR is good PR. Now people will click AKB48 vids and drive up their profits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438043
No they won't. Westerners don't care about Japanese music.

[Anonymous No.]

Smart move by the attention whore. Divert attention from the situation at hand (her being a slut and sleeping around) to controversy and playing the victimized role. No wonder Mayuyu said this slut had nothing to look up to in terms of progression.

[Anonymous No.]

Like clockwork

All of Western and European media:
>Shaming Japan mode
>Japan weird mode

Meanwhile the western world is burning to the ground, QUICK LOOK, AN ATTENTION WHORE IN NIHON! NIPPON IS SOOOOO SHITTY

:(
D:

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438042
disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438051

Japanese economy has been in the shitters since '93 and declining. My country is doing just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

I just remembered--on Iitomo didn't Rui Kurihara say this coming year was going to be very bad luck for her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438059

Said she was going to have a scandal late in the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw Americlaps care more about some girls shaving her head than they do about the US embassy getting terror bombed, killing two people

It's fine to see that Murrika still has all the priorities in the right place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438042
And this is not the only thread, redd!t or something caught on this story and now we have a colossal influx of misinformed people shitting up the board with their feminazi crap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438057
>Japan's GDP per capita
>Increases each year
>Japan's GDP grew 2% in 2012 / Forcast 2.9% growth in 2013 (Growing GDP with shrinking population... mein gott)

EU zone shrank by -0.9% and Germany's GDP is in recession and shrank -0.1%.

The thing is, Germany has full bore trade with China, and got all the benefits with the Japan v. China spat of 2012. So the fact that Germany is still shit economy despite having all the advantages in trade shows how fucked Europe is.

And if you live in America.

"Google Atlanta Security guard"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438043
>But I NEVER SAW AKB48 on front page news in England before.

You should've been around when every news outlet was reporting about Eguchi Aimi. Good times. Half of them were writing their own pieces without knowing why they were even doing that.

[Anonymous No.]

Many japaneses are horrified of the shaving and the no-dating rule.
Don't act like it's a Japan thing, it's a wota thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438086
Wotas were actually the first to say that her gesture was extreme, so shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438068
MSM:
>"Look how terrible Japan is!"
>"THIS POOR GIRL DRIVEN TO HOLOCAUST SUICIDE" (By literally none of her fans...and she did it to stick with her contract to not lose her $$$ aka. self preservation)
>"Aren't you glad you are stuc- *cough* I mean born in the West!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K095RK510&list=LLKAYKym4kFKdhnyJvbo6A

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438068
I'm an American and I find this more interesting

That Atlanta mall cop is cool too...I love how he puts those sheboons in their places.

[Anonymous No.]

In all my years of fapping to japanese porn I have only seen one girl with a shaved head and she wasn't very attractive.

this is a huge fetish of mine. please give links to bald head JAV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438077
I don't ever remember seeing any of that. Though my daily source of news is BBC website.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438031
You should, because they're probably some of the more competent I've read. Some are even giving the author shit for making fallacious claims.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438107
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in67hNzoc

Not JAV but shaved head all through the video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438068
There were more people interested in what the Sheboon Queen wore during the US presidential inauguration than in the Burger King's address to the nation.

99% of people are retards and don't deserve to vote.

[Anonymous No.]

http://youtu.be/KEuQEDbFycI

The parody vid is pretty funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438099

>Reading YouTube comments
>Any video

[Anonymous No.]

I am not an idol fan, but I don't see how you can disagree with them here.
She violated her contract. If she didn't want to be subjected to these rules, then she shouldn't have become an idol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438125
You're looking at this from an assburgers technical point of view. What people don't like is that this kind should even be part of the job in the first place or that her reaction was to shave head, when didn't need to (unless execs made her do it for publicity, which is what some people are saying)

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438129
>What people don't like is that this kind should even be part of the job in the first place

That's like whining that porn stars shouldn't be forced to have sex because "bawww only WOMYN can choose when to spread their legs for a man".

I don't get why people get so overly defensive over women. They're the most privilege, cared for, and easiest living people in the Westernized world; they don't need any more help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438131
Because feminism is the dominant cultural perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438131
This.

But Japan will be speared in the rip like Jesus and people will cast the first stone...

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438144
Getting speared in the rib would be preferable if you were being crucified.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438141
I know. I know the west is trying to become a matriarchy and that it's all about treating women like infallible gods, but it just depresses me that so many people believe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438149
?? the contract is stupid either way, doesn't matter if its a woman or man. this place is autistic as HELL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438164
>$4,000,000 yr salary

"OOOOOOOOOH MY GOD"
"SHE IS BEING FORCED TO SHAVE HER HEAD"
"HOLY SHIT HER LIFE OF BEING PAID $4MIL A YEAR IS SOOOOOOOOOO AWFUL"

Stop. Just stop. The fact is, find me a positive western mainstream news report about Japan that isn't trying to make it look "weird Japan". Anything.

Yeah, so Toyota net sin $8.9 Billion in profit (not revenue) each Quarter, world's largest wind farm is being built off of Fukushima, Japanese baseball is big news in Taiwan.

But isn't it odd that in western MSM, its 100% negative? Why would western news outlets want to demean Japan 24/7?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437079
This is the same anti-logic which gives rise to terms like "wage-slavery".

People make choices based on the perceived outcomes. Other people can influence these outcomes, or the perception of them, in order to affect the decision-making process. This is not a breach of autonomy, where one party makes the other party act (or not act) in a certain way, against their will; it's mere use of the agency which all people naturally have, with the purpose of directing (n.b. not controlling) the agency of others.

Trying to get others to do what you want is a fundamental aspect of all human interactions. It only becomes "forcing" if you actually use force (or the threat thereof) to enact your will.

It's likely that your personal biases have lead you to support the "underdog" against "The Man", as most peoples' sensibilities tend towards this. But at the logical extreme, the solution to this conflict is not some kind of free-love no-consequence utopia - no, when social influence is taboo, we live in a self-imposed nightmare of isolation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437086
>That's bullshit and probably violates a couple basic human rights.
Come back when you understand that "basic human rights" as the radical left (for instance, feminists who are pro-slut, or communists who are anti-contract) speaks of them are arbitrarily constructed in order to act as a buzzword for their malicious political agenda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438194
why the fuck should that be part of it in the first place? i dont give a fuck about how much she makes, the core reasons of why its even in the contract to begin with are laughable. justify it by giving her money or other props? none of that matters. she agreed to it, so she deserves this, but it doesnt change the fact its fucking dumb to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437106
Life is balancing your opposing desires and needs. One of her desires was to keep her job, and another of her desires was intimacy with a man. The conditions of her job obviously exclude the latter, so she is now trying to fulfil the former despite indulgence of the latter desire. She has desires and needs, but the fact that she may sometimes have to sacrifice one for another is only natural.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438225
Yeah. And why the fuck does my job contract require me to "dress in company uniform"? It's dumb as HELL and it shouldn't be part of my contract.

This is a violation of my human rights.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you realize that you guys have almost spent an entire day going in circles and slinging shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438237
yeah because those are really comparable and on the same scale huh? really intelligent statement. typical autistic logic. i can name multiple crucial differences between that shitty comparasion

[Anonymous No.]

>Meanwhile in America
>Unemployment increases back up to 8%
>Secretary of State Clinton having to resign after Benghazi scandal (Where people died and real shit etc)

"B-b-but a girl in Japan gets paid $4mil a year to be kute and virgin"
"Horrible warcrimes, Japan"
"We must give freedom and punishings again"

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438237

"my contract claims i can't eat. but i agreed to it, so the contract isn't dumb."

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438240
You're right, let's relax with some music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLSoIj64o

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437164
>Shaving a woman's head and having her humiliated on a public scale is cruel, inhumane and degrading.
She did that herself. By the way, "cruel, inhuman or degrading" means "things that aren't quite torture but are close enough that we are upset about it", which probably doesn't include head-shaving, even if it was forced - that would be mere battery.

>No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
Guess you'd better pursue the newspaper, then. This is about ethics in the news media.
>correspondence
That means no bugging phones or stealing mail.
>arbitrary
If the conditions of your employment stipulate that you maintain a certain public image which is central to your effectiveness as an employee, and your "private" life is negatively influencing this public image, then I imagine we have an issue with this being anything to do with "privacy", and an issue with it being arbitrary. Her actions are public knowledge, not because of the employer, and this public knowledge represents a likely financial disadvantage to the employer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437164
Why is a problem to shave a WOMAN's head? What are you trying to say? That women should have long hair? Why are you trying to hold women into these gender roles, you fucking misogynist?

Isn't that the type of things you people go for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438269
The same thing has been said numerous times in this thread, retards can't even bother to read the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

You know what you guys should do?

Simple:

Boycott AKB48 and support the independent scene instead.

Here's Shugo Tokumaru. He deserves more fame than AKB48:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Wx__BOk

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438277
Shaving your head? It's just hair. This is why it's no big deal in Japan to begin with. Yeah yeah you cut some hair and ill grow back.

I think shaving hair is bad in the west because it's associated with the Holocaust and with KKK skin head hangs.

In Japan, a shaved head is associated with Buddhist traditions.

Seriously, Orientalism in 2013 ladies and gents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438288
>here, watch this pitchfork-approved hipster crap instead
Oh great, I'll just turn myself into completely different kind of obnoxious douche, that's much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438288
Except I'll keep supporting AKB even more seeing how there's profiteers like you in this world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438298

>Not watching the fucking video

It's 99% better than the shit that is on the Oricon Charts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437213
>I'm talking about the contract that invades her privacy. She has to swear to chasity before getting hired? That's an invasion of her private life.
That's not an invasion of privacy.

For comparison, if a sporting brand were sponsoring a professional athlete, perhaps one part of the contract would be that the sponsorship would end if the athlete was found to dope. But doping is done in private, so this would, by your measures, be an invasion of privacy. But the sponsor brand clearly has a legitimate interest in not sponsoring drug-cheats.

Just the same, an idol group which functions on image cannot be seen to endorse flouting of this image. If an idol behaves in such a way in private, as could detract from the prescribed image, then the group has a legitimate interest in ceasing endorsement of such conduct by terminating employment of the idol.

In fact, these things - drug-cheating, not maintaining the appropriate image, and others - aren't really private issues at all. If an athlete dopes a lot, but never gets caught, or an idol sleeps around a lot, but never gets caught, then 1) there's no risk to the sponsor/idol agency because there is no public knowledge of the cheating/promiscuity to damage the brand's reputation/group's image, and 2) the sponsor/agency never knows about it so it cannot be punished. A doping athlete/promiscuous idol only caught by their sponsor/agency (but not publicly exposed) then represents a financial risk in case they are exposed, and it's not a breach of privacy, but a legitimate move to preserve profitability, to either cover up the issue, or to terminate them and publicly explain.

So we see, a contract which dictates aspects of "private" life is only meaningful in the sense that the "private" issue is no longer actually "private" - and so, it can never breach real privacy, but only intervene after that privacy is lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438305

What do you mean by profit?

AKB48 doesn't deserve all the fame. Shugo-san does. He's talented and does everything by himself. He deserves to have his work paid off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438292
>I think shaving hair is bad in the west because it's associated with the Holocaust and with KKK skin head hangs.

Shaving the head of an unchaste woman is actually an old punishment in Europe, dating back to the early middle age and was used until the 50s (at least in France).

[Anonymous No.]

>Break the contract
>Get demoted
>Cry and make a scene on youtube
>Feminists and whiteknights rally behind you, supporting your breach of contract.

If you didn't like the contract, why did you sign it? Oh because you are showered with millions of dollars and live in sublime wealth.

Boo
Fucking
hoo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438315
Working harder does not mean that you should be paid more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438320
Muh Hair

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438315
>What do you mean by profit?
Exploiting someone's plight to get ahead because you are unable to do it by your own means. Stay the fuck away from me, slimeball.

>Shugo-san
Are you a fan of that shit? Because if so I already one valid reason to ignore it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438006
The ABC article is actually pretty good compared to some others out there. My guess, since it's now been fixed (to say that the photo is of "Japanese group AKB, in China"), is that that was an editorial oversight. Generally the people writing the captions aren't the people writing the article, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438325

Yes it does.

>>10438333

Well, give me an example of good music that isn't AKBshit then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438395
>Yes it does.

Okay, if labor equals profits, then I'm going to work as hard as I can digging holes in my yard all day. Give me my millions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438403
if labor equals higher wages*

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438403

Move to Sweden or Norway then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438405
No, I want it here. I am entitled to extremely high wages for extremely hard work, as you have said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438408

Then move out then.

My life got better when i moved to northern Europe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438416
Surely you realize that people aren't paid more based on working harder anywhere, because it's nonsensical. I think you are a troll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438422

Well i work in a Norwegian IT company, and i got extra work leave and bonuses for excellent hard work.

And we are one of the hardest workers in Europe, so see us in action how we work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438429
A bonus is not the same thing as your pay being determined by the difficulty of your work. Consider a simple example. Let's say someone works on a video game, as a programmer or some such thing. They work extremely hard on this, put all of their time and energy into it. They work harder than anyone else in the company, or just for the sake of example, in the industry as a whole. But the game is bad and it does not sell. Why should they be paid proportionately to their labor (and thus be paid a large amount) for working hard to make something no one wants? Where is the money going to come from when their product is not selling? Their labor was not useful and it did not produce profits. Whether or not they worked hard does not matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438438

Regardless, people would rather work in Norway than in Japan.

Infact, Norway is basically Japan that got its shit together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438446
Just wait until the oil runs out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438465

We still have Royksopp and Scottish oil is basically Norwegian oil.

And we can just import Bjork and Robyn and make them citizens too you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10436467

I agree 100%

Ultimately whole this issue is just get MORE attention to AK-whatever and their respective producers to generate income.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438446

i'm from Finland.

Hiroshima.

Haista Vittu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438887
FUG :---DDD

[Anonymous No.]

>>10438429
>Well i work in a Norwegian IT company, and i got extra work leave and bonuses for excellent hard work.
>And we are one of the hardest workers in Europe, so see us in action how we work.
Pigg av, troll.

>>10438446
>Infact, Norway is basically Japan that got its shit together.
You can't possibly be this retarded. The government has been run by a bunch of monkeys for the last 8 years. Our transport infrastructure is light years behind our neighbours (especially public highways) and is still being constructed at a snails pace for insane contruction costs. There has been numerous failures of major highway projects (for instance, oslofjordtunnelen) due to lack of funding and horrible administration.

The government could be doing everything wrong and we'd still have the highest HDI in the world because of our ridiculous profits from our fish, oil, gas and arms exports.

Norway is in a sad state, but has an enormous potential. Sadly, there has been none of that in modern times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>10437740
And when were running out of drugs
and the conversation is grinding away