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The opposite of depression isn't happiness, its mania.

Any person who is depressed is bound to have moments of euphoria and feelings of speed and adrenaline.
As Andy Behrman puts it : "When I'm manic, I'm so awake and alert, that my eyelashes fluttering on the pillow sound like thunder" .

But as long as the mania continues, so will the depression. The maniac mistakes the sources of mania for happiness. The more he dwells into them the more depressed is he bound to become.

So the mania must be cut:
-Denpa music
-Internet use
-Hentai
-Moe
-Masturbation
-Etc

>> No.9903244

>>9903233
btw im a girl

>> No.9903245

Nope.

>> No.9903248
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9903248

http://counsellingresource.com/lib/distress/mood-disorders/mood-episodes/manic-symptoms/

>> No.9903251

What if I'm a depressed maniac?

>> No.9903254

You have to be manic depressive to get the manic phase. Regular depression does not have it.

>> No.9903258

>>9903233
Okay. Would wiping all my harddrives constitute a good start? I want to be happy again.

>> No.9903270

>>9903258

No. OP is using pseudoscience.

Disregard it.

>> No.9903295

Normal depression has nothing to do with manic episodes.

You should count yourself lucky, manic episodes are NOT GOOD. It's like being on speed except you are fully-functional and extremely dangerous to yourself and your status quo. Manic episodes also rape your brain and the rebound depression is often far more dangerous than any standard depressions.

>> No.9903304

>>9903233
>Any person who is depressed is bound to have moments of euphoria and feelings of speed and adrenaline.
No, that's only people with BPD. Which is why they call it manic-depression.

>> No.9903308

>>9903295

Probably better than years of total neutrality.

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9903319

What if the mania is drug induced? Is that still bad?

My doctor prescribes me speed to combat my feelings of depression since nothing else works. This works very well and I feel over the moon for most hours of the day. I would imagine that eventually the pills would wear off and then I would feel even worse at night, but that's why he prescribes me sedatives so I can knock myself out at bedtime before that happens.

Is this bad? Is my doctor just a crazy drug pushing quack?

>> No.9903322

>>9903319

Possibly.

All I ever got were different types of SSRI that dulled my mind.

>> No.9903325

>>9903304

>No, that's only people with BPD

My mother had that. Borderlines are horrible and evil people.

>> No.9903328

I don't get it

>> No.9903333

>>9903319
As long as he is making money for his corporate overloads and you are happy then all is good with the world. You aren't the only one who is unable to function without outside sources anyways. Entertainment exists for a reason.

>> No.9903352

>>9903325
Oops, I'm sorry, not BPD, I meant bipolar disorder. My mistake.

>> No.9903353

Mania is great as long as you can keep the anger/irrational thinking leashed.

>> No.9903355

>>9903308
I, being a bipolar, take pills because I want to stay in total neutrality. Believe me, manic depression episodes are not good, nor fun and are definitely something you want to stay away from.

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>>9903319

Your doctor sounds like Freud.

Treating depression by getting you high every day is a good treatment plan in the same way that morphine will successfully treat the pain you feel from a paper-cut. It's ridiculous overkill, but as long as you don't give a shit about the long-term consequences then it works great.

>> No.9903366

This will make sense if you are mentally ill.

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The thing I dislike about mania is how fast it leaves you and how quickly your opinions can change. It really fucks with your head.

One second I'm feeling all, "I love everyone, the world is wonderful place and I'm wonderful too. You know, I could kill a bear with my hands and he wouldn't stand a chance. I AM THE GOD, THOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME" and then the next minute it's, "I hate everything. Life is terrible. What's the point of this? Nothing is enjoyable, I want to sleep forever."

Having my state of mind jump from such extremes in less than 5 minutes is incredibly unnerving.

>> No.9903392

>Nee, shiteru?
Am I doing what? It's shiTteru, fuckface. There's a glottal stop. Kill yourself.

>> No.9903431

Depression is easy, I wish I had depression. Anything is better than whatever is wrong with my mind that keeps causing me to see shit.

I have jumped seventeen times in the last two hours because I was sure that I saw a spider crawling on my hand only to realize that there was nothing there. I also have a panic attack if I enter the room and see a chair turned away from me because my mind floods with all of these crazy thoughts and I'm 100% sure that there is something evil sitting in the chair and I'll see him if I turn it around.

This shit is terrible. I'm scared of fucking chairs. I would love to trade this for depression.

>> No.9903438

>>9903431
Ain't that schizophrenia?

>> No.9903449

>>9903431

Do you drink excessive caffeine?

My hallucinations stopped after I stopped having it.

Might be worth trying.

>> No.9903450

>>9903431
Schizophrenia.. it's a gift, not a curse, although it might look like one at the first sight. You can control it and use it for the better, change the perception of the world with ease; catch is - you need to learn how to tame it. Meditation, Buddhist techniques, everything around these things will work, stop being afraid of it, learn to live with it and use it for your own gain. It's all just you, mind is the key.

>> No.9903453

So your great plan to cure depression is to cut everything that makes you happy so that you'll kill yourself and not be depressed anymore?

>> No.9903462

>>9903431
I have the same sort of thing, with different delusions but similar feelings. I thought it was schizophrenia at first but on my self-diagnosis searching I found it to be closer to "schizotypal" which is basically, for lack of a better term, "entry-level schizophrenia."

You really do not want to become depressed while having this. They play off each other terribly and what starts off as slight depression might quickly escalate to suicidal thoughts.

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9903465

mania is so fun though

>> No.9903468

>-Denpa music
I don't even listen.
>-Internet use
lel xd
>-Hentai
Porn.
>-Moe
I don't even watch/read.
>-Masturbation
Well the less you do something more exciting it is when you do it.
>-Etc
How do I do etc?

>> No.9903470

>>9903450
If he already has so little control over his mind, I have a feeling he'd end up as one of those anons who gets bullied by his tulpa.

>> No.9903475

My mania episodes last a couple of hours, but visit me very infreqently. Most of the time I'm apathetic and not depressed.

>> No.9903476

>>9903468
could you possibly be more autistic

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9903482

I'm so happy I could just tear out your intestines and strangle you with them!

>> No.9903491

>>9903482

CHEESE FOR EVERYONE

>> No.9903514

>>9903453

No. A fate worse than death: he is suggesting become a normie.

I have no doubt that if this list had been made x0 years ago, it would be prohibiting activities of that era: CDs, Television, Radio, Books, what-have-you.

>> No.9903516

>>9903450

>Schizophrenia.. it's a gift, not a curse

I wish our culture understood this. Many of the cultures that still practice shamanism understand this and the members of their community who we would consider schizophrenic are often trained in spiritual practices and become the spiritual leaders of their tribes.

In our culture though, schizophrenia is looked at as if it's some horrible, horrible thing and the only way to treat it is to dope these people up until they don't have a single clear thought in their mind.

These people are drowning inside of their own minds and instead of teaching them how to swim we just give them medications to make them so sedated that they stop caring about how they're drowning. These people have so much to offer to the rest of the world if we would only embrace schizophrenia and teach them how to control and benefit from this unique perspective that they were born with.

>> No.9903521

>>9903514
>A fate worse than death
hardly

>> No.9903524

>>9903521

Yes.

Death is neutral.

Being a drone is negative.

>> No.9903554

>>9903516

I remember seeing a lecture by a psychologist saying something very similar.

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>>9903325
Don't generalize.

Having BPD sucks. It's like the worst of depression coupled with mood swings, co-dependency and hallucinations. Being gender dysphoric doesn't help the case either. I hate my life.

>> No.9905883

>>9903554
Terrance Mckenna said something like that although that man loves the smell of his own shit so I'm not sure if he had anything to back that up.

>> No.9905951
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9905951

I like my bursts of mania.

Yelling as loud as I want, listening to ultra-fast electronic music and denpa, Having insanely extreme reactions to anything and everything, Running up and down the hallway until my legs stop working for a few hours, pretending to be a bird with my budgies, making orgasm noises and posting them on /jp/ and then after all of that, impulse purchasing $60-$100 of alcohol and getting wasted, drawing some birds with touhou faces and passing out into a lucid dream of Gensokyo.

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>>9905951
I wish I got periodic ecstasy doses.

>> No.9906013

I all welcome my manic episodes with great festival, since it's a nice change up from the apathy of an empty cycle or rebound depression. But then I end up spending every penny I have on stupid things, end up taking all the risks a NEET can (which usually ends up with my computer taking the worst due to questionable files and poor safety habits), sometimes I throw away important stuff, or blow off things that absolutely cannot wait, and my opinion on things takes a horrible turn.

I'm glad I have no social responsibilities or obligations of any kind, talking to people when on a manic episode always ends terribly in a way that nothing else in my life can measure up to.

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