/jp/ - Otaku Culture

These people always seem to be dumbasses who accept some unfair plea.

>Project Safe Childhood marshals federal, state, and local resources to locate, apprehend and prosecute individuals who sexually exploit children.
>individuals who sexually exploit children

christ, so we need to have a disclaimer proclaiming that no children were harmed in the making of these doujins?

> a collection of electronic comics, entitled "incest comics,

Oh those crazy cartoonists.

>Bee's wife contacted the Monett Police Department

Reasons you're better off alone.

Wow, he had a bitch of a wife. What a cunt.

>>9896034
There's already a disclaimer in the law that says they don't give a shit:
http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/18C71.txt

> (c) Nonrequired Element of Offense. - It is not a required
> element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted
> actually exist.

I know this suggestion will be unpopular on /jp/, but don't you think he deserved it?

This way, he will think twice before ever acting on his fantasies. You can say he would have kept it to 2D as much as you like, but recently I have noticed a lot of you here on /jp/ are pedophiles for both 2D and 3D, and when someone tells you to keep it to 2D you redirect them to /a/ as if it's accepted here.

Polite sage for not /jp/ related.

>>9896055
http://cphpost.dk/news/national/report-cartoon-paedophilia-harmless

Someone email this story to these guys:
http://cbldf.org/

>>9896051

Good to see they're protecting your freedumbs.

>>9896051
Is this federal law?
I thought laws on loli varied on a state-by-state basis.

>>9896055
Huh

But there was nothing about real kids in the article.

>>9896063
Yes, it's a federal law.

Don't believe that one image. The law is very much in force, otherwise photographic CP would be legal. I think the author got confused because another law (COPA?) got struck down.

>>9896055
Thoughtcrime should be punished.

>>9896073
But aren't lewd photographs of actual children fundamentally different than lewd drawings of imaginary children?

Lawmakers scare me, anon.

>>9896084

Everyone but the defendant.

I know there are tests for obscenity, but who gets to decide whether something has artistic, literary or political value?

>>9896084
Old conservatives.

>>9896081
Not in the eyes of the law. Doesn't matter if it's a photograph, a drawing, a cartoon or a sculpture. You're a terrible pedophile who wants to rape and murder our children, so you belong in prison along with all the terrorists and murderers.

>>9896096
I'm a criminal!

>>9896081
I agree, it's really no different than masturbating with thoughts of loli.

But of course, you can't defend it at all, or else you're a pedophile and need to be sent to prison.

>>9896100
No, that clearly has great artistic value.

Try something like pic related [WARNING: VERY ILLEGAL YOU WILL DEFINITELY GO TO JAIL]

>>9896105
If they had a way to detect recurrent fantasies and criminalize it, they probably would. The whole point of the law is to catch POTENTIAL child molesters. Fap to cartoons? Ooh, soon it won't be enough! You'll want to go out and try the real thing!

>>9896108
fuck, i clicked it. brb, need to dban my hard drive to destroy all evidence.

>>9896114
Aren't fantasies escapist in nature? How does that line of logic make any sense?

>>9896114
Why draw the line there? People who watch films about heists might want to actually rob a bank.

It always reminds me that I live in a country where freedom of consciousness is not being respected.

Feels very bad man

Sweet justice. If you're not a child molester, you wouldn't have those files on your Mac.

>>9896127
banks aren't children

>>9896130
If you didn't think criminal thoughts, you'd have nothing to fear.

>>9896120
ENCRYPT THE SWAP.

Does anyone know if the US has anything like the UK's RIP Act? What happens if the FBI has a search warrant and your hard drive is encrypted? What if you don't hand over the key?

>>9896138
I'd imagine they have legal recourse to waterboard you or something.

>>9896127
And all people who view heterosexual pornography are just rapists waiting to happen!

Why do people save shit to their PC?

>>9896114
What kills me about this is that there hasn't been a single fucking scientific study that proves it, yet there have been plenty disproving it.
But noooo, think of the children!

>>9896138
you get jailed for contempt of court anyway, fifth amendment be damned. EFF had an ongoing case where that happened to a woman with an encrypted hdd, though her crime was fraud.

>>9896156
How do those studies even work? Just out of curiosity.

>>9896146
You know as much as I do that there is nothing criminal about thoughts Devils-advocate-kun

>>9896166
Follow avid lolicon collectors over time and see whether they commit sex crimes.

Man views porn, man gets erection, semen goes inside tissue, semen does not go inside actual child, crime prevented. Why is this such a difficult concept?

>>9896175
Children were harmed in the making of that drawing.

>>9896153
yup. iirc, ted bundy once said, "pr0nz turned me into a rapist and serial killer." so. pr0nz're bad. therefore everyone on 4chan is a future rapist and serial killer. everyone, please turn yourselves in before it's too late.

>>9896185
Which children?

>>9896175
>crime prevented
Except viewing the porn is a federal crime.

>>9896138
"The difference between the two rulings is in previous cases, the courts have held that when the government already knows of the existence of specific incriminating files, compelling a suspect to produce them does not violate the Fifth Amendment's rule against self-incrimination. On the other hand, if the government merely suspects that an encrypted hard drive contains some incriminating documents, but lacks independent evidence for the existence of specific documents, then the owner of the hard drive is entitled to invoke the Fifth Amendment."

>>9896194
Why?

>>9896197
Because it's against the law.

>>9896193
Mine, you sick fuck.

>>9896025
>Monett, Missouri
>Plead guilty
>Obscenity

Nothing to see here unless you live in one of those backwards right-wing states.

>>9896203
Why?

>>9896209
but I live in Nebraska.

>>9896155
As opposed to? Storing it in the cloud? Constantly accessing something over a network, making HTTP requests that are logged and recorded for a minimum of six months?

If something is on my computer, I can do whatever I want with it however I want without fear of being tracked or logged. You don't have the same peace if mind viewing something online.

>>9896193
Children that were conjured in the artist's mind. If you can even use the word "artist" for sick, perverted psychos like >>9896100
Those children have rights!

>Bee's wife
First mistake.

Secondly it doesn't way anything about being Japanese manga. Take it to /co/.

>>9896166
They could do case studies on specific individuals, or take a control group of non-abusive lolicons and compare them with abusive lolicons, or perhaps just ordinary folk to lolicons, and measure the difference in average no. of children abused.

Obviously the sample size (or at least sample size that would volunteer) is quite low, so I have no idea how that Dutch study worked.

>>9896213
In that case, everyone who's ever played a shooter is a murderer. Those monstrous, gun-wielding maniacs!
Get on it, congress! This virtual slaughter has to stop!

>Bee's wife contacted the Monett Police Department
Bitches and whores general?

>>9896209
I live in Oklahoma and I'm pretty sure pornography is completely illegal here. I know it can't be sold here, at least.

Also need ID to buy duct tape.

>>9896227
No. Fuck off.

>>9896227
>>>/r9k/

>>9896230
>Also need ID to buy duct tape.
Wait, what?

>>9896209
I live in Georgia, help what do I do.

>>9896230
>Also need ID to buy duct tape.
What in the fuck.

>>9896230
>Also need ID to buy duct tape.
You're kidding, right?

Wow, his wife really fucked him over.

>>9896153

Bad analogy, you should have said people who watch rape porn (fake or real) are all rapists.

>>9896155

Having a collection of whatever is VASTLY more convenient and organized than going back and forth from websites.

>>9896156

Just to play devils advocate, those "scientific studies" would be nothing but bullshit.

>>9896224

Just to play devils advocate, that's a bad analogy. We're talking about sexual desires and how you go about fulfilling them, not playing video games. No matter what excuses you make, even you know it's two complete different things.

Prosecuting those who posses drawn child pornography is a useless act. Please take into consideration that these laws are in place in order to protect children, and as no children were harmed in the drawing of said children, there was no crime committed. It can be compared to simulated violence in video games, where the player may murder a virtual creation. Would it be right to jail said player? No, for no one was harmed in said "murder". People fail to realize that laws exist to prevent the rights of others being infringed, not to suit their own moral theory or personal tastes.
Pedophiles are the new witches being hunted, along with "rapists". Once you're accused, it is near impossible to clear yourself out of it.

>>9896238
>>9896239
>>9896241
I'm not sure why, but I think some teens apparently were able to smoke it somehow. It's not enforced very often, most cashiers know it's bullshit and won't bother you with it. A few will, though.

>growing epidemic of child sexual exploitation and abuse
I can't wait for a US government sponsored pharmaceutical lab to sell their cure for this.
If we're lucky they'll make nuclear powered microchip to graft in those pedophile brain so that the moment they see a child they get electroshocked.

>Bee's wife contacted the Monett Police Department and reported that she had found files she believed to be child pornography on a computer used by her husband.

Such a patriot, blindly sacrifying her husband in profit of her great cuntry. God bless her and god bless AMERICA. (because the whole continent is ours)

>>9896244
>those "scientific studies" would be nothing but bullshit.
Oh?

>>9896235
>>9896236
Females pls go

Michael Briere, a lifelong paedophile in Canada who abducted, raped, and killed a 10-year-old girl, said in court, "for myself, I would say that, yes; viewing the material does motivate you to do other things. In my case, for sure. The more I saw, the more I longed for it in my heart. The more I wanted it. And that's the one time where I actually tried to do it..."

>>9896250
Clearly she was afraid that her husband would leave her for loli and flipped out. He's lucky he survived with his penis to attached to his body.

>>9896253
Fuck off, retard.

>>9896244

violent video games fill an entertainment desire. You are getting entertained by the killing of virtual people. It IS a similar concept stop with the cognitive dissonance.

>>9896249
I still can't believe that a law like this exists.

I don't mean to brag, but if any /jp/sie has to live under state lawmakers like that, come live with me in California where just about everything is legal, I'll pay for everything and keep you safe and warm and away from those shitty lawmakers.

>>9896244
>Bad analogy, you should have said people who watch rape porn (fake or real) are all rapists.

Not really. They're arguing that, because I view children naked, I want to fuck real children. It doesn't matter whether my comics even depict child abuse.

>>9896241
>>9896239
>>9896238
anon must be troll. i really do live in oklahoma, and yes, we do have porn shops. and no, ID is not required to buy duct tape. i bought some recently.

>>9896244
Reality and fantasy are two complete different things as well. Sexual or not.

>>9896256
False correlation and fallacious argument by appealing to likely coerced response.

The best I can give you is a , step up, ``nigga''

>>9896260
I don't want to sugg your dick, dude.

>>9896249
Pooping is now illegal due to jenkem.

They'll be able to see you jacking it to loli porn with the new Obama drones.

Thanks, uncle Sam.

>>9896262

>They're arguing that, because I view children naked, I want to fuck real children.

WHAT A RIDICULOUS ARGUMENT.

>>9896245
>Please take into consideration that these laws are in place in order to protect children
Officially maybe, but you and I both know that's not the actual reason.

>>9896244
Tearing a piece of paper where a drawn children is depicted is murder.
Tear it more than once and it's savage murder or whatever the legal term is.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr1981

Write to your senator and support this Bill, /jp/!

>>9896256
yeah, but what "material" was he referring to, exactly. probably real cp, i'll bet.

>>9896275

What if he liked racing games like burnout? Would he be a threat to the road because he'd speed and crash into people? no he wouldn't and anyone who DOES is an exception not the rule.

>>9896283

These are horrible comparisons.

>>9896276
We all know the real reason is that the government wants to restrict the material we are allowed to masturbate to and then release their own porn with subliminal message planted in the because people are more open to subliminal messaging when they are fapping and thus reduce the American populace to docile blobs of masturbating fat! It's already happened with mainstream porn. WAKE UP SHEEPLE.

>>9896275
Another fallacious argument. Even if a desire were there, you cannot pursue your silly form of justice based on only that. You can say that many people enjoy expensive automobiles or movie stars, that does not however imply that they are willing to break a law in order to steal or rape.

>>9896260
>come live with me in California where just about everything is legal
Can't fug 16 year olds. Shit state.

>The depictions clearly lack any literary, artistic, political or scientific value.

>Artistic...
Who decides this, honestly?

>>9896291

Want =/= Acting upon desires

Never said anything about what you're implying. It's a safe bet that someone who masturbates to child pornography, also WANTS to have that in real life.

>>9896293
Oh I always love seeing /new/ conspiracy theories

>>9896301

The art police.

>>9896301
Feminists

>>9896301
The Adversary.

>>9896302
The point is that you can't prove it. There are going to be cases where that's true and cases where that's untrue. There shouldn't be a law persecuting people for something they haven't done yet.

>>9896293
No. It's more like a basic erosion of freedom. By targeting something greatly unpopular you set the foundation for "free speech only applies to things I like" and "the majority have the right to oppress the minority" mentalities.

>>9896315

Never said there should be.

>>9896325
Or you could have just removed the "yet".

>>9896289

No they're not and until you give everyone a good enough reason to believe otherwise then leave the argument. You are not productive to the discussion. The argument is reality versus fantasy.

>>9896315
> they haven't done yet.
Semantically incorrect as it implies they will do it.
Should've said "There shouldn't be a law persecuting people on the supposition that they might commit something illegal"

>>9896260
I live in California, and the average people here don't seem tolerant enough to be pedo friendly. I feel like if I tried to ship a loli dakimakura I'd be lynched by the jury.

>>9896325
Yeah, that is better. Thanks for being a better technical writer than me.

>>9896323
Hello newfag/shitposter, here's a guide on how to spot a troll
>>9896289
1) asspull claims with nothing backing it up, but presents it as a fact and strong opposition to any opinion/hypothesis presented.
such as:
>These are horrible comparisons.
Thanks for participating in internet 101.

That feel when you cache a CP images and it counts as producing CP because you've made a copy.

These threads make me laugh a little, but I worry a little bit about how far the law will go to restrict me into becoming a citizen the majority want.

>>9896302
It does not matter what they want. If I may continue playing devil's advocate, a pedophile may be free to desire children for the rest of his life, but if he does not infringe on the rights of children or any others involved then there is nothing legally wrong with what he is doing. You'll need to make a distinction between the legal and moral, and I believe the man who has just been prosecuted on the basis of drawn child pornography will have a very strong case if he chooses to appeal to a higher court.

>>9896334
That feel when you believe /g/'s old wives tales and think you can be caught that way.

>>9896341
Actually, this is the case in the UK. Fortunately you can make a mens rea defence and get away with it.

>>9896326
i have a loli daki and i live in the backwards-ass midwest. and two more just came in and are waiting for me to pick them up.

Am I the only person happy about this? I'm all for freedom of speech and most anti-censorship, but I'd rather live in a world where lewdness is completely abolished. I'd rather we have stricter sex/pornography laws than more liberal ones.
In before move to Iran.

>>9896336

You're not playing devils advocate here.

I am.

>>9896337

I'm not a troll.

Pretty much every human on Earth has real life sexual desires. Only VERY few have real life desires to kill people, or go through extremely dangerous reckless driving.

Media pandering to the former is much more influential on the general populace/userbase than something like cawoodooty is.

Not even you believe it is. I know you don't.

>>9896336
>You'll need to make a distinction between the legal and moral.
People seem to have forgotten that justice and moral are two dinctincts things, even sometime polar opposites.

>>9896356
Congrats for the mental illness.

>>9896334
>making a digital copy counts as production
Why is murrikan law so retarded?

>2012
>Obscenity laws

And the US has the nerve to complain about things like Pussy Riot...

>>9896374
American lawmakers have never seen a computer before.

>>9896362
>Only VERY few have real life desires to kill people, or go through extremely dangerous reckless driving.
Pretty sure everyone wants to do those, actually.

>>9896362
>go through extremely dangerous reckless driving.
You have never driven a fucking day in your life.
0/10, people fucking love speeding.

>>9896374
Law made for feminists is retarded

>>9896394

>speeding


Watch out guys, we got a badass who loves extremely dangerous reckless driving. I heard one time he actually took a right on red, even though there was a sign saying not to.

>>9896399
do you even drive

>>9896399
He yielded though.

>>9896403
no right turn on red signs override the standard traffic pattern

>>9896412
I know, but he still yielded. He may be reckless but he's not CRAZY.

>>9896356
"I'm all for freedom of speech, except when I disagree with it."

>>9896362
>Pretty much every human on Earth has real life sexual desires. Only VERY few have real life desires to kill people

>[citation needed]

I read a story about someone getting caught with Loli somewhere in Europe. One of the people they quoted was the police chief (or something like that), saying that "This was waste of police resources. We should focus on actual crimes."

For once Europe is actually smarter than America.

>>9896483
It was the Swedish one where he was let off, I think.

>>9896483
Good on him.

It's the fucking cunt's fault and he made the mistake of getting an unfaithful squeeze. Nothing more to be said.

Is there even a technical barrier for this? I don't even know if my keion images count.

>>9896531
I mean, is there any sane argument that separates 2d porn from 3d porn?

>>9896531
There's not, these things are intentionally made as vague as possible. Laws like Obscenity are literally just catchall bullshit for the explicit purpose of screwing over people who either can't afford a non-shit lawyer or are dumb enough to take plea bargains on thought crimes.

>>9896531
"Your honor, the last arc of the manga is over, and Azunyan is now officially an adult college student..."

>>9896382
Just so all the European /jp/sies know, this is literally a fact. American politicians are very spoiled and have servants to handle all their shit.

So question 1: who makes these retarded laws?
and 2: How do I go about changing them?

>>9896570
1: Rich old Congressmen
2: You don't.

>>9896570
Old rich guys.

Kill them and create your own regime.

>>9896570
>How do I go about changing them?
Nobody is quite sure. The US law system is quite convoluted.


http://youtu.be/cdTgKarqTQ0

>>9896580
I understand petition things don't actually work,
so if I light myself on fire in a public place to protest convicting people on non existant crimes will people listen?

>>9896586
Nope.

>>9896586
How can people listen if you don't say anything? There's already too much unintelligible protest, nobody knows what the protesters want and everyone loses interest.

>>9896601
He will have a giant banner with a Rustle drawing behind him or something.

>>9896603
FREEDOM

>>9896601
Even if you argued clearly they wouldn't listen. They're disgusted with the thought of it so they won't bother to think about it.

You may as well protest to make child rape legal.

>>9896601
His pained screams would probably catch the attention of someone important, who will then ban self-immolation on all federal property.

Wouldn't help what was originally being protested, of course.

Cases like this are so fucking unfair. Nobody will be saved like this, the only thing it does is to ruin lives and waste money. I hope they will wise up and change the laws.

This thought crime things scares me. I have some different political beliefs and activities and I know one of these days I'll disappear.

I'm gonna miss you fellas.

>>9896627
Maybe we'll see each other in the Ministry of Freedom.

>>9896627

unfortunately military technology is so far ahead of what civilians have access to in terms of quality and quantity, we've passed the point where armed protest is literally a non-issue for the government. we are probably the last generation that will have had access to actual freedoms

>>9896627
You won't disappear if you fight with me. I can't promise your or my safety, but you won't die in obscurity.
Fight together with me by my side anon. Others will join me.

These /jp/ posters... their rioting has intensified to the point where we may not be able to contain it.

>>9896639
Why contain it? 's cool.

I always wonder. Is it really abnormal to be attracted to elementary schoolers? I mean, I was attracted to elementary schoolers in elementary school. I saw no reason to stop. Why is that abnormal?

Yupe. It's time to ban all those violent murder simulation games as well. Also, thoughtcrime.

It's like people read 1984 not as a warning, but a how-to guide for grabbing power and eroding individual rights.

It has actually happened in the past. The popular "don't yell in a theater" was actually just an arbitrary example given by judge Holmes, and later he regretted it. But now it has become acceptable that free speech has certain "limits". And now with all this CP business, no one can say "you can't be arrested without actually committing crime or deliberately planning to" anymore.

Me? I'd volunteer to live in a special child-free zone where no children are allowed just to say FUCK YOU to these politicians.

>>9896621
You have to understand, anon, that American laws are not made to protect the peace or make anyone safer. American laws are designed to put the maximum amount of people in prison for the maximum amount of time, so they can churn out cheap goods for free. American prisons are nothing more than labor camps, and now that privately-owned prisons are becoming a thing, the corporate sector (the REAL lawmakers) will push for even more retarded and vague laws for maximum occupancy.

And these laws will never be changed, because The Constitution™ was expressly written to bar anyone but geriatric business owners from any kind of office. Also lobbyists, but that's an argument for a different day.

>>9896636
>you won't die in obscurity.
That's all I want.

People 100 years from now will know that there used to be a concept called freedom and that men were willing to die to defend it.

>>9896636
I'll join you as well. I think we can save this world if we just get ahold of nukes and hold it for ransom

>>9896652
So your not willing to fight for your freedoms.

>>9896483
HE MUST SUPPORT CP AND PEDOS SECRETLY. WE MUST LAUNCH AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON HIM AND IF NECESSARY CATCH HIM ON SOME MADE UP BULLSHIT UNTIL HE RESIGNS AND WE GET A REAL POLICE CHIEF IN.

literal and complete quote from most people in thread;

>WAHHHH, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO WATCH CP ALL DAY EVERY DAY IT'S COMPLETELY HEALTHY WAAAAH PERSECUTION!

suck it faggots.

I wanted to grab some 1984 quotes and change them so that they involved loli, but I just ended up not changing enough stuff in them because they fit too well already.

Feels good to live on a shithole of a country, where I can torrent GB of CeePee, and the police wouldnt even notice or care, because they are lazy faggots themselves.
Not saying that I do download CeePee, but I has a friend who has.
I just loli my way out.
Fug da poliec.

>>9896662
Loli isn't CP Gaylord.

There's no real disgusting 3DPD in my doujinshi

>>9896669
who even cares? you guys bitch even more than weedfags and they're legendary for it

>>9896662
No one's talking about that though. CP is actually harms the children so it actually has a logical basis to be illegal. Loli does not because it hinges on protecting fictional children and preventing things that may not happen anyway.

>>9896675
>CP is actually harms the children
It can. But so can normal porn, and I think that sort of thing may already be illegal anyway.

>>9896662
It's not even child porn because there are no children involved. This is a case of old rich fucks wanting to ban thinking.

>>9896673
So you wouldn't say shit if they made laws baring you from reading certain books, watching certain shows, because the government doesn't like it? Fuck that.

>>9896690
Well, that's a whole different discussion that's even less board related.

>>9896690
Porn is made with consent of both parties.
CP is not, and if it is, the kid in question usually doesnt know what the fuck they are doing.

>>9896689
if they were niche pornographic materials, i wouldn't care. correct

>>9896705
That is because sexuality is not really anything special. Normals fail to understand it, yes, but they are retarded and fail to understand the most basic of concepts.

>>9896635
I'm not so sure about that. If a handful of muslims with AKs can put up a fight against the US army for so long then any sort of force inside the country's borders would be very bad news. The US military can't bomb it's own land so guerrilla warfare would be even more effective than in Vietnam or Iraq.

That said, until the welfare lines run completely dry there's not going to be any form of violent protest whatsoever. People simply have too much to lose, even if their freedom and livelihoods are being trampled on.

>>9896706
I feel like there's an appropriate quote for this kind of mindset, something about how first they came for the communists, or something. Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter.

>>9896721
i know the one

they came for the cp, and i said nothing because fair enough

then they came for the loli and i bitched up a fucking storm on an anonymous image board because it's essential to my very being to pummel my dick to it

and then nothing else happened because nobody gives a shit.

>>9896738
australia tried to ban pornography with flat chests, some people cared

>>9896738
Then they came for piracy, and everyone who used the internet was already in prison.

>>9896738
You'll be going to thought prison for visiting the child porn site 4chan at one point in your life. You are a thought criminal and need to be "rehabilitated"

>>9896772
Not him, but I fear nothing. And why should I?

>>9896767
Btw, what's your worst fear? Just for an unrelated, anonymous survey.

Wow, I leave for two hours and this has accrued another 150 posts.
The same discussion we have had hundreds of times, and yet this remains /jp/'s most popular topic.

>>9896774
So the Ministry of Freedom can trap your head in a cage with it.

>>9896781
They can do nothing to me. Even if for some unknowable reason they attempt to lock me up, it is a matter of time until I get out. They cannot kill me. We mean very little to the other, and if they come for me, I shall in turn come for them. I have nothing to fear, not even fear itself.

>>9896792
Careful with those edges man, you'll hurt someone!

>>9896798
Do you even know what the words you use mean? All I was saying was that given there is no possible result which contains my death, there is no reason for me to fear anything.

>>9896812

We've got a truPHILOSOPHER on our hands, here!

>>9896812
And all I'm saying is that you sound like a fagoot.

>>9896818
Not what edgy means.

>>9896820
Thanks Anon-sensei, I hope this will help me on the next exam. I noticed you didn't correct my spelling of "faggot" in the last post, was there a reason for this?

>>9896828
I did not pay any attention to your post beyond determining you had missed the point.

>>9896812
lamo how u get so EDGE?! is like ur post was folded 1000 times before post

>>9896838
So now you're telling me that it wasn't about edges it was about points? Geez, I don't think I'll ever pass this exam!

>>9896849
Study harder and you will make it. I have faith in you.

I think I'm going to rename my loli folder to "2D midget porn".

ITT fascists and conformists trolling a guy with a different mindset for being different

Anyone who doesn't have their hentai in AT LEAST a TrueCrypt hidden volume is a fool. Loli or not, you're asking for trouble.

>>9896942
How many times a day do you have to insert your password?

>>9896942
Truecrypt has backdoors for the government.

>>9896959
Depends. I generally only lock it when I leave my house, and I only keep my sensitive stuff on it.

>>9896968
Except it doesn't.
Mexican drug lords have used it to protect their dealings, and it's defeated the FBI on multiple occasions.
If the people after you are higher up than the fucking FBI, then you have much bigger problems.

>>9896968
You better cite that info, 'cause it smells like bullshit

>>9896989

Actually the authority doesn't need to beat TrueCrypt. They only need to tell you to decrypt it and in some places not complying with them can be an obstruction of justice and net you jail time. You can pull all the hidden volume shenanigans but that can indeed be detected by forensic experts (even though they can't actually decrypt it).

Unless you are already an outlaw like a drug lord, in which case "obstruction of justice" would be the least of your worries.

>>9897013
Somehow I doubt obstruction of justice is worse than what they would find if the average /jp/edo gave them his password.

>>9897013
>You can pull all the hidden volume shenanigans but that can indeed be detected by forensic experts (even though they can't actually decrypt it).
Not if you actually follow the directions and do the encrypted OS shit. If your country's legal system isn't garbage then it gives you enough reasonable doubt

>>9897013
Protip: The legal system prevents them from legally opening a safe (or other encrypted data) if they don't know what's in it. If you say nothing about what's in it- absolutely nothing, and leave no evidence lying around about what might be in it, you are under no legal obligation to provide the password.
Even if you are, the hidden volume does provide significant plausible deniability.

The way forensics detect if there's a hidden volume is by the file system's 'last modified' dates. If the last modified dates in the normal archive don't match the ones on the file system, you can bet your ass that there's a hidden volume, since the volume was modified without anything in the standard volume changing- ergo there's a hidden volume.
Not strong legal ground though, since it isn't reliable data, so keeping quiet is still the best option. Even if they shout at you "we know you have a hidden volume, our tech geeks figured that out right away", they're fucking lying, or they'd be beating you over the head with a court order.

>>9897013
>. You can pull all the hidden volume shenanigans but that can indeed be detected by forensic experts (even though they can't actually decrypt it).
Not true. They can't detect a hidden truecrypt volume, since it appears to be random empty data within another volume. That's the whole point of it. Provided you set it up properly, of course.

This is bullshit I thought one case guy got off because it was drawings.

>>9897113
There are tricks to see if one is probably there- like a suspiciously empty standard volume, last edited like 2 years ago, and shit like that.
There are clues, but there's no hard evidence.

When will it get to the point that our legal system is just run by robots?

Having humans do this sort of thing is such a terrible idea. People are so easily influenced by their emotions and they allow feelings like disgust or anger to override rational thought. The whole court system is basically just a form of acting. If you can get the jury and the judge to empathize with you then they will let you get away with murder, but if they don't like you enough then you're screwed.

Robots would be best. If this man had been in a robot court then the robots would have found him innocent since he never actually harmed anyone, but humans find his behavior disgusting and their emotional reaction is enough to get him three years in a federal prison.

>2012
>thought police
>moral panics and decandent society

Hoo boy. This isn't going to end well, is it?

>>9897478
Move to eastern yurop, cheap, fast internet and nobody cares what you do with it.

Its bs because they dont even have ages so how hell could you tell.

>>9897486
Fuck that VPN through a dead box in Ukraine or someshit.

>>9897464
>letting robots run anything

>>9897507

What a faux pas. Weren't you aware that /jp/ is populated by sentient robots, biological scum?

This is when you realize that Some European countries have stricter laws regarding loli than the US.

>>9897514
Does that mean here aren't even any cocks to suck?

I think I'm just going to castrate myself.

What's the point of this? I don't want to risk jail time over something as stupid as masturbating to drawn pictures. Might as well just chemically castrate myself so I won't feel any more sexual desires.

>>9897578
I think that is taking it a bit too far.

>>9897578
They'd still find a reason to imprison you. If you castrated yourself they would lock you away for being insane and dangerous to yourself and other people around you or some shit.

>>9897598
Epic screencap dude.

>>9897598
He's talking about chemical castration. It's actually a good idea.
It will make no negative difference to our lives, and will also improve the quality of our lives. No more 'I gotta fap'. No more hoarding porn for no reason, there are literally no downsides.

>>9897598
Epic BLACK AND PINK cute but edgy 4chan theme, bro!

great

>>9897598

Isn't castration a pretty good thing though? I've often thought about it just for the value of being castrated.

Imagine a life that isn't ruled by primal sexual desires. I know that in the moments immediately after an orgasm I experience this state of clarity where all of my sexual desires are gone and the fog has been lifted. Immediately I lose all interest in masturbating or anything that is lewd and I just want to do something else since rubbing my penis and looking at naked pictures feels about as pointless as rubbing my toe and looking at a picture of a car. It just feels so stupid.

This clarity lasts only a few minutes, but if I could somehow extend that then I would be much happier. I would imagine that chemical castration gives that to you.

>>9897631

After I masturbate I lose the will to live for several hours and life seems more meaningless than usual.
Normally I go to bed at that point.

>>9897620

>there are literally no downsides.

The only downside I can think of is that one of the main side effects is bone loss. I would gladly take depo-provera shots to castrate myself if there wasn't the large risk of developing brittle bones.

I wonder if there are any bad side effects to good old fashion "slice it off and throw it in the trash" castration.

Well, Eastern Europe might not be great, but such shit is one of the reasons this pace doesn't completely suck(as well as piracy).

Why is everyone so mean? All I did was screencap something.

>>9897641

What drugs do they use to chemically spay women?
Anti-oestrogens or something?

>>9897641
Hmm, I didn't know about bone density loss.

The only downsides with physical castration I can think of are the ones that are the same as surgery in general.
Pain, blood loss, infection. I don't know if you could get a doctor to do it for you, so you might end up having to do it yourself.
With some local anaesthetic you'd be able to do it without the pain (it'd still hurt after the surgery, so you'd need painkillers afterwards too). Blood loss wouldn't be that difficult to deal with, infection would be a little bit of a problem. Would need an air purifier, and some nice sterile blades, sterile cloth and so on. You can sterilise blades by putting them in the oven for half an hour at like 250C, air purifiers you can buy.
It'd be tricky if you want to do it really safe.

>>9896055
I agree. These paedophiles need to be locked up. It's disgusting and shouldn't be tolerated by civilised society.

>>9897657

What part of the penis needs to be cut to kill sexual desire? Is it the whole thing or just the scrotum?

>>9897658
Let's lock you up too just in case, because you are visiting the same website as those evil evil pedos!

>>9897660

Are you le serious?
The nuts, dude - those things inside the scrotum.

>>9897658
If I was in charge of law, I'd use a two strikes system:
1st sex offense: One testicle removed.
2nd sex offense: Second testicle removed.

Violent crime too.

Bam, crime shoots down.

When it comes to women I'd remove ovaries, I guess.

>>9897660
All you really need to do is pop open the ballsack and remove the testicles inside.

>>9897578
I've already done this. Just take Spiro twice a day and you'll be sterilised. Absolutely no pain.

>>9896667
Where do you live?

who eunuch here?

A protip to those thinking about a little slice and dice:
Why do you think there is a high incidence of depression among post-menopausal women? Sex hormones have an influence on mood, and lacking them (almost) altogether is unlikely to be particularly good for your mental wellbeing.
Moreover, low testosterone in particular is associated with lethargy, decreased bone density, muscle loss (as well as the aformentioned depression) - that's why they offer testosterone shots to people who had orchidectomies for cancer, etc.
Seems a pretty dumb move to me.

>>9897699

I think the problem has more to do with people applying too much importance to sex.

If you take sex away from them then they don't have much else to live for. Monks are very happy people and they don't castrate themselves but they go the extra mile and expel sexual thoughts from their head through sheer willpower. Eunuchs are historically very motivated and ambitious people, often the exact opposite of lethargic.

Life without sexual urges can be a great life because you are no longer distracted by the ever present desire to fuck things, but if you based your life around sex then when it's taken away from you you're just going to be like those lethargic spayed dogs that lie around all day and have no purpose in their life.

>>9897734

How hard is it to masturbate once every two or three days for five minutes?
Comparing /jp/ to monks is hilarious when /jp/ seemingly has so little control over their sexual urges that they consider castration.

I've said it a bunch of times. I've offered my hand in solidarity to crush this oppressive regime. But nooooo. They call me evil commie, murderer, stalin, worse than hitler etc. I try to help people and I get spit on.

>>9897742

>Comparing /jp/ to monks

I'm not comparing /jp/ to monks. Most people on /jp/ seem to masturbate chronically. I'm just saying that monks are people who live without allowing sexual desires to influence their life and they are better off for it.

The problem with sexual desires is that it doesn't only exist during the times when you masturbate. That is the peak of it, but nearly every moment of each day our minds are clouded with subconscious sexual desires that motivate many of our actions. This is extremely apparent in more normal people, but the same is true when you look at /jp/ and see the hours and hours that people spend talking in lewd threads.

If they had no sexual desires then they wouldn't feel any desire to participate in discussions about "smelly NEET pussy" or what their favorite touhou looks like when she's pooping. These are just strange desires that only exist because our minds are clouded with so much sexual fog.

>>9897742
>How hard is it to masturbate once every two or three days for five minutes?
Try 3 times a day for 30-60 minutes and that's likely to be more accurate for me.

>>9897755

There are plenty of non-monks who can go about life without posting in "smelly NEET pussy" threads or otherwise wasting time in that manner. You, for example (I assume).
What /jp/ needs to learn is some self control. Also, I would suggest that much of /jp/'s sexual activities and thoughts are motivated by boredom.

>>9897767
why dont u shut the fuck up

>>9897767

>who can go about life without posting in "smelly NEET pussy" threads or otherwise wasting time in that manner

Don't most people in the world allow their desires to compel them to do far more reckless and wasteful things though?

Just look at romance for example. Countless numbers of people have killed themselves because of feeling upset about a failed romance, others have ruined their entire lives by rushing into a marriage with someone they thought they loved, and all of them spend obscene amounts of money on making themselves more attractive so that they can have sex. Smelly NEET pussy threads seem like nothing at all in comparison to the lengths that most people will go to satisfy their libidos.

It's that fundamental craving for sexual activity and romance that almost every human seems to have and it robs us all of most of our lives. It's so senseless and animalistic, it's just this primal lust of powerful emotions that compels everyone to do things that they would never even think to do if they were in a clear state of mind.

Castration is one of the few escapes from this insanity that we're all born with.

>>9897783
Hey how about you shut the hell up that's my friend right there.

>>9897784

Yeah, I understand what you are saying.
My point was that people could overcome those sorts of thoughts and their related problems mentally, as you say the monks do, rather than altering their hormone levels through surgery or otherwise.
Surely it is better to attempt that than to undergo a procedure with a raft of related health problems.
I now have a primal and powerful desire for sleep, which I am going to satiate. Goodnight.

>>9897784
Pretty sure people don't pursue marriage primarily for the purpose of getting laid.

I only masturbate when I accidentally end up paying attention to something lewd on the internet, which only happens every few weeks.

>truecrypt
>truecrypt
>truecrypt

For fucks sake its not that hard

>>9897807
you are voluntarily going to prison if you say your forget the password u fucking retard

>>truecrypt
Winrar password would do, most manga readers has the option to input the passwrod once you drop the .rar on it, just don't name the files: "Hot loli getting raped in the ass.rar" inside of a folder named "CP don't click".

>>9897814
Maybe if I was black

>>9897810
You double nigger, aka really fucking stupid nigger, if he truecrypt his shit, his stupid wife can't see the fucking delicious lolis, and if she can't see it she can't call the party van on you.

>>9897810
It's time to learn the law, idiort. You only go to prison for withholding if the authorities have reasonable idea of what is inside the passworded thing. If they have no idea what's inside, you're not in legal trouble.

>>9897810
You are a fucking ghetto nigger if you think that shit. Fuck off retard. Its against the law to force a password unless the incriminating has been seen by LE, not some 3rd party faggot, and you can say you forgot, cant be proven that you are lying, and you can always have hidden OS that cant be proven exists while you give the password for the dummy safe OS with nothing on it.

Now kindly fuck off.

>inb4 you post cases of people being forced to give passwords
>inb4 you fail to realize they already admitted to the content

>>9897825
>LE
fuck off to reddit

>>9897833
LE stands for law enforcement.
Hope this helps.

>>9897833
Moar like le /v/ amirite?

>>9897833
Nice one faggot

>get told
>turn to massive faggot

>>9897680

>>9897801

>Pretty sure people don't pursue marriage primarily for the purpose of getting laid.

The root of romance is sexual desire though. When you eliminate sexual desire then you eliminate the desire for romantic relationships as well.

The problem is that people have gotten love all tangled up with the passion of romance and it's difficult for most people to separate the two things. The love between two close friends is no different than the love between a married couple, love is love, it's just that the married couple also wants to fuck each other and do other things which are motivated by sexual attraction and lust.

Attraction, lust, these things are not genuine because by their nature they are not rational and they do not make sense. You can feel attracted to someone for a completely arbitrary reason and then lose that attraction just as quickly, it's chaotic and wild.

Love is different though. Love is a strong bond that is gradually formed between two people and it's based around things like compatible personalities, common interests, enjoying each other's company, a history of trusting each other, etc. These are real things that have meaning and that's why friendships typically last far longer than romantic relationships. It doesn't have that passionate lust that clouds your judgement and most people love their best friend far more than they love their wife or husband.

>>9897855
mfw when english doesn't have different words for love between couples and love between friends and family members.

>>9897862
That feel when english doesn't have a word for female friends, nor for female cousins.

Pedohysteria needs to go, already.

>>9897862
It's called platonic love.
English has more words than any other language on Earth, so you can be certain we have a word for everything, or at least to describe something.
And if there isn't one, you can invent a new word.

its like no one has heard of encryption..

>>9897902
It's like that hasn't been mentioned several times in this thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law
This is especially a problem here in the UK. Basically, law enforcement can ask for your cryptographic key. Refuse and you get up to 2 years in prison. This is especially dumb because you could have a hoard of illegal materials that would get you 10 years in prison, but you can just encrypt it and take the 2 years instead.

Fortunately, there are ways around this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deniable_encryption

>>9898203
That's where truCRIP's hidden volume comes into play. There's no way to convincingly prove that it exists, as they're 2 passwords.
Personally I think this is flawed. Truecrypt should be changed to allow infinite hidden volumes. It gives infinite plausible deniability.

welcome to the totalitarian emirates of america, still pretending to be democratic/republican so that people don't catch what's up and use their second amendment for rebellion.

that's probably the only reason they're trying to ban it, they're afraid once the gig's up people will arm themselves and revolt.

tl;dr lol murrika, freedom my ass

>>9898203
give fake keys, make the archive get corrupted through repeated wrong keys.

claim brain damage and faulty memory later, say you're sick and it's not your fault this happened.

just like it's not the criminally insane people's fault they murdered over 50 people, they still get comfy isolated rooms instead of a chair because they weren't in full control of their actions.

>>9898203
They have to actually have evidence that you may be possessing illegal material before you need to give them the key.

If you don't have the key but can still prove what's in it then you're pretty safe from prosecution. Say you downloaded the wikileaks encrypted file, then that's legal.

The only way you're going to get into a bad situation is if you have a roommate who trawled for CP and they don't know if it was him or you.

But if you're actually a paedophile then you deserve it anyway.

If you want to know what it's like to feel castrated go ask your GP for some prozac.

>>9898279
>But if you're actually a paedophile then you deserve it anyway.
You mean someone who molests or rapes children deserves to get his life ruined.

>>9898293
This. Most people ITT are paedophiles but they're harmless.

I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but if you like 2D children then you are sexually attracted to children and you are using child pornography, just as >>>/y/ is full of homosexuals using gay porn. We need to get over this normalfag moral panic mentality that paedophiles are inherently bad or always child molesters, and that child pornography is always in some way harmful, regardless of how it was made or if there were any real-life children involved.

>>9898310
I don't get it. Am I the only one that thinks that sex with children is completely disqusting, but still likes loli?

I wouldn't classify myself as a paedophile, because i think lolis are cute. Real children however, are not.

>>9897080
> The way forensics detect if there's a hidden volume is by the file system's 'last modified' dates.

Deleting a file within normal volume will provoke 'last modified' date to change. So it doesn't indicate that there is a hidden volume.

>>9898333
That's a lot of people.

I could only call such people a pedophile in the sense that they like the "concept". The idea of it is attractive to you but the reality is far different.

So are literary depictions of underage children fucking illegal too? Because if they are I'm going to spend the rest of my life writing De Sade level smut

>>9898279
>But if you're actually a paedophile then you deserve it anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUkt59vY1Q

>>9898446
Oh, I see. Fair enough, I guess.

>>9898333
I'm heterosexual but I find male-female sex disgusting.

>>9898446
no one has any?

>>9898473
You should make those paper cutout characters and spend your time making comics where you torture them to death.

>>9896643

I've always wondered the same thing. Everyone has been an adolescent in the time of their lives, everyone has been attracted to their adolescent opposites, yet the moment we grow up out of our teenager years it becomes considered as a taboo and is looked down upon as something shocking or unnatural to be still attracted to said subject.

This is ridiculous. He shouldn't have married that bitch whore of a wife.

>>9897658

pedophilia*

Pedophilia =/= Child Molester =/= Lolicon

Mutually exclusive terms, also most child molesters are not pedophiles.

>>9897670
Honduras. Central America. You see, even if the cops try to fuck me up, is way to easy to bribe them. Unless you severely fucked up (murder, theft, rape) is pretty easy to get around.

never accept the first plea deal fucking idiot.

well good thing I live in Nevada where everything's legal

>>9904178
> Mutually exclusive

I wouldn't go that far

>>9904178
>Pedophilia =/= Child Molester

How does that work?

>>9904215
it doesn't really.

all child molesters are pedophiles, but most pedos aren't molesters.

>>9904215
Is a pedophile who never molested a child in his life a child molester? No, of course not. And of course an innocent person like that shouldn't be punished for crimes he didn't commit.

>>9904178
Not mutually exclusive. I'm sure being a pedophile is tied to molesting children (as opposed to molesting something else). I'm also sure that being a pedophile is correlated with lolicon as well. They boil down to similar fixations.

>>9904215
Molesting a child doesn't necessitate pedophilia. You can molest a person without sexual attraction; it could be a dominance issue. At the same time, being a pedophile doesn't mean you molest anything.

>>9904225

There have been numerous rapists who molested children for power (as rape is about power, not sex) In many cases CMs are Pedos, but in some cases they arn't. So you can't say all.

But you can be a Pedo or a Lolicon and not touch a kid. And most Pedos actually commit suicide when they learn they are only attracted to kids.

There was a letter sent to Comic LO where a girl found her brothers Lolicon, and actually wrote to the Magazine to ask them about why they make this stuff. And they said that, as long as it's a fantasy it's harmless, they are just ideas. But if he actually tried to touch you, or steal your underwear he's not a good person, and you should kick his ass and call the police.

>>9904247
>There was a letter sent to Comic LO
Wasn't that just a fake story?

>>9904240
>I'm also sure that being a pedophile is correlated with lolicon as well
They are one and the same, lolicon is the Japanese colloquial word for pedophilia.

>>9904264
As I understand, it isn't as specific. Pedophilia only applies to prepubescence, but lolicon seems to refer to anything underage. This is only how I've seen it used in a western context, though.

Lolicon = elementary & middle school
Pedo = Elementary & below

Pedos don't like development, lolicons love the beginning stages of puberty.

you can determine the difference by asking them if they like toddlerkon

>>9904290
Most lolicons like both, actually.

>childhood exploitation and abuse
Wait what the fuck. Drawing pictures is now child police? What the fuck am I even reading?

Congratulations 'Merrika. You have become Canada2.0. How long until porn is illegal in 'merrika?

>>9904309
Is it really that surprising? Normalfags have never made sense.

>>9904324
15-20 years probably.

drawn loli is always bad, what do you ignorent fucks think they used for reference

>>9904309
Yeah, it's so silly and sad. Only adults and drawings were involved in the whole case and yet everyone acts like children were somehow harmed.
Maybe I should feel pity for the man but since he was married...

http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ104214

Can we Americans please go to Japan and set them right? Again? Maybe another nuke will shock their senses back.

>>9904343
Kill yourself.
Do us all a favor.

>>9904355
We should threaten that website to give us the credit card numbers of those pedos who bought that, and then trace the cards to them and kill the pedos.

>>9904343
newsflash: they became that way thanks to america. your bombs and then continuous military occupation turned their country that way. you created them. now you have to live with consequences.

i wonder how many nukes to the capital and other major american cities would it take to make america shape up.

>>9904393
Can we not think about that? I live around there...

In America, justice is an anti-american communist concept.

>>9904324
Porn is illegal. That's what obscene material means.

It's only legal if it make as pretense of being artistic. You also can't send it through the mail, so you'll be arrested whether its loli or not if you ship with USPS

>>9904420
Yuropoor bitch you can't even comprehend my freedoms. Stay jelly you third world bitch.

loli bitch is my favorite pixiv tag

>>9904438
How do you write it in Japanese?

>>9904444
ロリビッチ

>>9904462
roribitchi

http://www.news-leader.com/article/20121016/NEWS12/310160009/Monett-man-cartoon-child-porn?nclick_ch
eck=1

So we see
>A Monett man has pleaded guilty in federal court in Springfield to possessing cartoons that depicted child pornography.
Is an untruth.

>Ledford explained, however, that there is a federal statute that prohibits obscenity and that actual children need not be depicted in order for material to be considered obscene.

>“That’s the statute he pleaded guilty to,” Ledford said. “He’s pleading to obscenity, it’s not a child pornography charge.”

Dumb nigger ass motherfucker.

>>9904307
I don't mind a little breasts but it just makes me sad to think they're growing up. They'll soon become disgusting adults.

>>9906039
Sounds about right.

>>9904329
Are you really this fucking stupid?