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Why do westerners like Chiruno so much?

>> No.9882454

I think nips like her more

>> No.9882465

>>9882454

I don't think so, they love Alice more than anybody else.

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Westerners? I hear she's more widely admired in Russia or something.

Anyway, she isn't my favorite but she's a cool ice fairy who often doesn't give very many fucks. What's not to love?

>> No.9882488

why u no like the strongest?

>> No.9882490

>>9882488

Because she isn't

>> No.9882496

>>9882465
I don't see Alice getting her own game.

>> No.9882580

I like her outfit. Simple but recognizable.
>Why do westerners like Chiruno so much?
Memes

>> No.9882589

because she's the most secondary touhou, obviously.

>> No.9882602

lawl chillyno is so cute and kawayee! xp

>> No.9882663 [DELETED] 

>>9882465

Momiji is pretty much #1 on 2ch and 2chan.

>> No.9882666
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9882666

Because she wears the national colours of Finland thus being the official queen of Finnish 2hu culture and Finland is known to have relatively large amount of 2hufags.

This image was shown to foreign people when they tried to access Kuvalauta, the image board that gave birth to everything the Finnish imageboard culture has to offer, both good and bad things.

>> No.9882688

>>9882666
OP meant the Western world, not some drunk Swedes living in igloos in the middle of buttfuck nowhere

>> No.9882745

>>9882666
>Kuvalauta, the image board that gave birth to everything the Finnish imageboard culture has to offer
Just kill yourself. You know as well as I do that's not true.

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>>9882688
Read his post again, that's what he said;
Finns like her for her palette
Finns make up a large part of the western fanbase
Therefore westerners like her, because large part of them are Finnish, and Finns like her.

I don't really agree with what he's saying, just saying you pointed out the wrong thing.

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>>9882768
The proportions of colour in her flag are more Scottish than Finnish, laddy.

>> No.9882814

>>9882803
I've never heard of scottish 2hu fanbase

>> No.9882823

>>9882814
We have a few Scots here. There was some animation festival and they all came out of the woodwork.

That !DQN guy is Scottish, but I think he's only here for idol threads.

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>>9882803
I think you meant >>9882666
As I said, I hardly with his argument, facetious as his post may have been.

I'm just here to post Cirno images in a Cirno thread.

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>>9882803
I think you meant >>9882666
As I said, I hardly agree with his argument, facetious as his post may have been.

I'm just here to post Cirno images in a Cirno thread.

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>>9882803
Or a Central American flag.

>> No.9882831

>>9882823
>but I think he's only here for idol threads.
Other things too but his main niche is idol threads.

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9882847

'Why do people like x' is my least favorite question.

They just do. Stop questioning everything.

>> No.9882851

>>9882847
>Stop questioning everything.
Why do you hate learning?

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9882864

Because she's cute and badass.

Nuff said.

>> No.9882870 [DELETED] 

>>9882864
I think you should check your canon, secondary.

>> No.9882878

>>9882870
Never played GFW? She kicks everyone's ass.

>> No.9882887 [DELETED] 
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>>9882870
>canon
She's always drawn as some super-cute loli, even though she's a tomboy who's probably somewhere around her teens.

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I like her dress, other than that she's a brat.

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>>9882878
>canon
She's always drawn as some super-cute girly loli, even though she's a tomboy who's probably somewhere around her teens.

>> No.9882896

>>9882892
Meant to quote >>9882870
Fuck you Captcha

>> No.9882897

Cirno is loved by everybody, Japanese and Westerners alike.

>>9882887
>who's probably somewhere around her teens.
She might be a century old or more, but like all faeries, she still looks like a child.

>canon
Nowhere near canon.

>> No.9882898

>>9882892
ZUN draws her as a super-cute girly loli, nerd.

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>>9882878
And if by everybody you mean below boss -level fairies and Marisa, sure.

>>9882890
Her wings are pretty interesting, too.

>> No.9882903

>>9882890
>she's a brat
But doesn't it make you want to spank her?

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>>9882898

>> No.9882911

>>9882892
>who's probably somewhere around her teens.
Touhous don't age, retard.

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>>9882905
I think she's cute.

>> No.9882915

WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAAAACE

>> No.9882923

How hard the the fins cream themselves when they found out she got her own game?

>> No.9882938

>>9882915
Oh hot damn, there's a new Half in the Bag.

I thought they were wrapping those up or something?

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>>9882903
No

>> No.9882950

>>9882831

What are you, his biographer? Creepy.

>> No.9882980

Secondary Touhou Rankings in order of most secondary:

Cirno
Chen
Flandre
Reimu
Patchy

>> No.9882982

>>9882980
What the fuck is Patchy doing on that list? Surely you meant Tewi.

>> No.9882984

>>9882980
Shouldn't it be Okuu or someone else instead of Patchy?

>> No.9882995

>>9882980
+ Okuu, Reisen, Moku, Kaguya

>> No.9882999

>>9882982
>>9882984
I've seen Patchy in secondary material a lot more than Tewi or Okuu

>> No.9883002

>>9882999
All of SDM should just be on that list then since they all have a shit ton of material and the most fans.

>> No.9883003

>>9882999
Secondary material? Sick trips by the way.

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>>9882953
Look at that ripe tush....

>> No.9883016

>>9882903
I'd rather find more subtle ways to punish her that would hurt her more emotionally than physically.

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>>9882923
When the game was announced, the last known place where Finnish Touhoufags came together to post Touhou and guro had already gone under, with most of the people scattered and lost. If there was an opinion amongst them, it would not have been possible to hear it; though if I were to extrapolate, I'd guess not much more than for any other game.

She's not actually any more popular in Finland than anywhere else, she's just recognizable enough and the colours happened to fit.

>> No.9883021

>>9883008
I'm pretty sure I saw a "chek'em" variation of this picture somewhere.

>> No.9883023

>>9883003
You do realize that Primary/Secondary are derived from the material in question, correct?

Primary would be all the official touhou material, be it the games, soundtracks, manga

Secondary is any non official works such as fan art and doujinshi.

Hence why people who have not played the games/read the manga are usually referred to as secondary, some characters are much more well known by this secondary crowd and that is what the list made was for.

>> No.9883024

>>9883021
You should return to the place you saw it and not come back.

>> No.9883057

>>9883024
What if he saw it here?

>> No.9883228

>>9882923
they creamed so hard it snowed

>> No.9883234

>>9882663

>Momiji
>loved

don't lie to me asshole

>> No.9883868

>>9882980
That's terribly wrong, it's like this, from most to least.

Flandre
Cirno
Chen
Alice
Marisa

Those are the touhous that introduce the series to people the most thanks to iosys.

>> No.9883892

The japs like her a lot too. You should be more specific and just say "secondaries" next time.

>> No.9883960

>>9883868
But I legitimately like Marisa, she's not my #1 favorite, but she's definitely in the top five.

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>>9883868
I definitely disagree with Alice, she doesn't seem that popular in japan and I rarely see her in stupid comics and meme images

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>>9883998
``rarely see her in stupid comics

Minus the alice x marisa unrequited love ones?

>> No.9884124

>>9883998

>meme images
>rarely

posted one

riiiiiiiiiiiiight...

>> No.9884146

>>9884124
Thats not well known across all boards like cirno baka/9 shit and bkub chen

>> No.9884235

>>9882814
Scotland represent!
I'm in Ayrshire. The only place that exists in Scotland. The rest of it is just a myth so we get tourists. Just like all the Haggis in our back gardens.

I know of at least a couple other people in here from Scotland. If they are to be believed that is.

>> No.9884800

Where did the Marisa x Alice pairing come from? I know in a few of the games when you can pair with characters Alice is a choice for Marisa. Is there any other reason? Is there something in one of the games that gives off this impression?

>> No.9884811 [DELETED] 

http://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

>> No.9884814

>>9884800
It's a secondary fanon from IOSYS Marisa stole the precious thing.

>> No.9884847

>>9884800
>Is there something in one of the games that gives off this impression?

I don't know I don't play that nerd shit. I just like the music and the porn.

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>> No.9884961

>>9884800
The original Japanese dialogue of Imperishable Night gave Japanese fans the impression that Alice was tsundere for Marisa. ZUN also made a comment about how Alice was reintroduced in the windows series specifically to be Marisa's partner in IN. This was not too long after Marisa's route in EoSD, which was really gay. Early on, most Touhou doujins were either pairing Marisa/Sakuya or Reimu/Marisa. The authors of these contacted ZUN with questions and asking for feedback to try to make their doujinshi as faithful to the original work as possible. After IN was released many of the Marisa/Sakuya artists began producing Marisa/Alice works, though Reimu/Marisa is and has always been the most popular even with ZUN.

Since then IOSYS and excessive fanon and shit have made most of the original artists of Marisa/Alice less interested and most of them have moved on to newer characters. This is also partially due to a lot of those artists still being in contact with ZUN, who encourages people to take interest in the newer games.

>> No.9885147

>>9883998
SHE WON SECOND PLACE IN THE POPULARITY CONTEST.

A contest made to determine which touhou is the most popular in the most accurate way possible in the current period of time, since pixiv only counts artists and said artists' works go far back to years prior as well as the fact that each artist could as many ''votes'' as he/she wants with each tagged image submitted.

This poll is also rather focused on the core fanbase. This is clear since Chen and Cirno are nowhere near the top TWENTY ever. Cirno and Chen get posted everywhere because of bkub for the latter and...well general popularity for the former.

>> No.9885156

>>9883960
And?

You liking her conflicts with her being one of the introductory touhous because...?

>> No.9885180

>>9884961
I'm pretty sure it was just IOSYS that sparked it, the IN bad ending scenario just gave off hints.

IOSYS was also responsible for jamming patchouli in, even though she would have done so anyway by herself when SA came out and by law every MC's partner gets a pairing with said MC. This was also the case with Reimu's partners.

>> No.9885228

>>9885156
As a general rule, you can't like popular things without being looked down upon.

>> No.9885232

>>9885147
I'm not sure which way you were going with this post


Are you trying to tell me that Alice is, or is not secondary (As well as chen/cirno)

>> No.9885291

>>9885180
I disagree since right after IN the content of doujins shifted so dramatically. IOSYS is no doubt responsible for the fanon version of the pairing, but there was already significant Marisa/Alice content before they released maidens orchestra.

>> No.9885486

Wow, there's no better scapegoat than IOSYS! Everything you don't like you can just blame on IOSYS, and sit back with a feeling of relief as if there aren't a couple thousand of other sources contributing to it. What a damn shame. In reality though, they were actually the ones always following the fads rather than creating them or making them popular.

>>9884961
While the fact that Marisa x Alice pairing was due to IN is undeniable, you're spewing too much bullshit with everything you said after that.

>>9885291
>right after IN the content of doujins shifted so dramatically.
I really doubt you were some doujinshi connoisseur back in 2004, but it's always safe to say that doujinshi content shifts when a new game gets released (as if it isn't obvious enough already).

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