/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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>>9829699
I like the PC-98 Yuuka.

So I was wondering, what sort of notable OC has /jp/ come up with over the years? I never really kept up with these threads. Off the top of my head all I can think of is the /jp/ themes and... I guess Dandy Girl.

>>9829748
The fuck is dandy girl?

Where is the wwwwwwwwwCRAZY person to comment on OP's picture?

>>9830265
His name is SPARKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>9830265
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvVVVVvvvVVVVVVVV gureizi!¡¡¡!!

>>9830293
Exclamation points included?

I was going to draw Momiji's partner/underling with the long hair from SoPM but I decided to just draw Momi instead.

I'll post my OC Touhou, you can tell she's really lewd because her t-shirt cuts off below her belly button.

>>9831569
She loves the number 10?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18871186

Please support me!I only need 520 more views before the end of this month

>>9829954

http://vndb.org/v3249

>>9831510

Really cute. That alpaca neck, though.

Pretty much got inspired by >>9831510 and decided to have a bash at drawing for the first time in my memory. I know it's pretty shitty but I have to be honest, I surprised myself with it and am really pleased with what it is so far. I'll finish it soon perhaps - or at least neaten it up some.

>>9831680
Why?

>>9832284
For this

http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Galaco

Is this good? Crits/redline ?

>>9834095
Your coloring is very good for an amateur (I assume you are) but your anatomy is horrid.

>>9834095
I don't really understand anything about drawing, but I think it has potential to be very good. Like >>9834109 said, you need to work on your anatomy a little. Especially the upper body looks a bit off.

Keep going, Anon-kun.

>>9832269
Me again. Had a few spare so I coloured it up some.

Wrote a song for my waifu

youtube.com/watch?v=8oSIFFh5t5Y

Dog girl looking for another job.

>>9838766
The best

>>9838766
The flag got me.

>>9838766
Oh, wow. I really dislike the blend of spam and blog from that guy, but you make it look so cute.

>>9838766

I love you.

marisa
color it as you like

>>9842600
( ；ﾟДﾟ)

>>9842024
Did you really draw that?

>>9842024
That looks cool. It reminds me of old-timey book illustrations, particularly children's books.

color example

>>9843766
>>9842024
I hope you don't mind if colored it too.

>>9844332
Cool

>>9842639
Tenniel is the best Victorian loli artist.

Since the ASSHAT janitor deleted my thread I thought this might be a better place to ask how do you learn to program?

>>9844493
Why do you want to learn how to program? This is important.

>>9844610
My programming 10 Desires

To be pure
To never be mean
To make games for /jp/ OC thread
To always smile
To be cute
To make programs and applications
To learn new things
To never say bad things
To increase my productivity
To waste time during the day

>>9844832
you said ass twice

>>9844832
Pervert.

>>9844832
I like these tutorials but I don't know if theyre good.
http://www.learncpp.com/

>>9844904
Sorry, forgot my sage.

I think that while you're learning it's important that you try to make programs with what you just learned, even if they're really simple.

>>9844904
>>9844920
I already decided to start with Java but i will save these links for when I move on to a new language since people say it's not smart to start out with C++

>>9845018
Depends. I am convinced that C++ isn't really hard to learn compared with any other language, but your success will depend on several factors.
1. Your age (adults have a better capacity to learn new things)
2. Previous experience using programs/computers beyond browsing and gaming.
3. Willingness to use a search engine when you have problems.
4. Leaving preconceptions of learning or technology at the door.
5.Regular daily/weekly practice however small and insignificant.
6. A decent and robust IDE with visual cues for mistakes.

If you can satisfy these points then there is no reason you cannot learn C++ as your first programming language within a few months.

>>9846014
Java is easier to learn than C++, and it improves on a lot of C++'s (design) mistakes.

While there are obvious issues with Java's implementations (gamer kids complaining about their RAM being used and whatnot), C++ is some sort of horrible monster that sits in between C and Java and everyone sensible wants it to go away.

>>9846083
I would actually say that Java is a poorly designed language especially when it comes to things like abstract types.
However there is no real difference between Java and C++ for the basic bread and butter programming concerns. For other beginner and intermediate stuff Java trumps c++, but lets be serious for a moment, it's because of the Java libraries that implement most stuff, rather than the actual language that makes it easy. Then later on when you want to do interesting stuff you have to deal with all of the limitations.

On the other hand, every "simple" thing you do in Java can be done more or less exactly the same way in C++ and infact you can use C++ in much the same way you use C. Most systems, if not all, have windowing libraries for C or C++ that easily trump Java. So if you use C++ with say, gtk or QT, SDL,boost, and/or whatever you need, then you can probably just as easily do whatever you wanted to do in Java but in C++ and build for various platforms.

So I really don't see how C++ is harder to learn than Java, but I do think people confuse learning with being able to make shitty programs that sort of work half of the time with vague code. C++ is just far stricter with that, and you could even argue that it greater incentive to not make careless mistakes and actually learn the language you're using.

>>9846453
I don't give a fuck what you say because I didn't read your post.

Me: 1
You: -1000000

The most powerful programming language is Lisp. If you don't know Lisp (or its variant, Scheme), you don't appreciate what a powerful language is. Once you learn Lisp you will see what is missing in most other languages.

When you start a Lisp system, it enters a read-eval-print loop. Most other languages have nothing comparable to read, nothing comparable to eval, and nothing comparable to print. What gaping deficiencies!

Lisp is no harder to understand than other languages. So if you have never learned to program, and you want to start, start with Lisp. If you learn to edit with Emacs, you can learn Lisp by writing editing commands for Emacs. You can use the Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp to learn with: it is free as in freedom, and you can order printed copies from the FSF.

To study Scheme, and programming through Scheme, I recommend Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, by Abelson and Sussman.

>>9846462
Well I didn't really make it for you to read it. I was replying to the general misconception that C++ is some absurd monster and that Java actually makes sense.

It is a shame you didn't read the post though because then you could have pointed out the ironic mistake I made and laughed at me. But then I would probably have recovered with an analogy to help prove my point even though it was needlessly inconsequential.

>>9846498
>>9846453
>>9846083
>>9846014
>>9845018
>>9844920
>>9844904
>>9844832
Shalom!

>>9846498
>State-less shit
C > Shist

>>9846498
>Scheme
It's shit.

>>9846014
>(adults have a better capacity to learn new things)
Didn't read the rest of your post because of this bs.

>>9846498
SICP is a book in computer science, not in Scheme.

Read The Little Schemer if you want to read a book about Scheme.

>>9846498
Enjoy your tendinitis+RSI+carpal tunnel syndrome+SHIT hands, fagstorm.

>>9845018
Java is a good language if you just want to write the program and don't deal with things like pointers, references and dynamical memory management that will steal your soul away.

>>9846014
>I am convinced that C++ isn't really hard to learn compared with any other language.
C++ is actually the toughest language that actually is useful for general shit, other ones may seem harder because you need to know lambda calculus and other useless academical crap to put them on use and even so their performance is mediocre if you're not gonna use recursivity for 90% of your functions, also these ones don't have as much predesigned libraries as C++ or java, even though C++ is discuraged because it's complexity is retarded because most of it comes from stupid syntax.
>Your age (adults have a better capacity to learn new things)
I thought kids were the best learners.

>>9846083
>Java is easier to learn than C++, and it improves on a lot of C++'s (design) mistakes.
Yep

>>9846623
You don't talk shit about lambda calculus, faggot.

>>9846453
>I would actually say that Java is a poorly designed language especially when it comes to things like abstract types.
>public abstract class _______ <? T extends I implements X,Y,Z>{
Sounds kind of abstract to me without going deeper to see what else implements T and impl/extn X,Y,Z. The problem as the anon said above is that Java wastes memory retardly to make the implimentation, polymorphism, and gestion of memory very easy, but the hierarchies that you can make with.
h Java.... show me how you manually manage the memory after the ninth inheritance.
>So if you use C++ with say, gtk or QT, SDL,boost, and/or whatever you need, then you can probably just as easily do whatever you wanted to do in Java but in C++ and build for various platforms.
To this day I've not seen a medium-low level interface for graphics as simple as Swing, in a a few hours you can write a complet interface that listens to the keys, don't talk about the damn canvas and the adapters, is too simple and sweet for a rookie to say no, maybe the only thing I've seen that comes close in simplicity is simple directmedia layer that you mencioned above.
>So I really don't see how C++ is harder to learn than Java
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>C++ is just far stricter with that, and you could even argue that it greater incentive to not make careless mistakes and actually learn the language you're using.
Actually java is more strict, not javascript though, again the complexity of c++ doesn't come from a hard/complex syntax but from it being pants on head retarded, not trying to hide that is a language that can have a much higher potential than java being closer to the machine, but as long as you're not going to be sys admin or you want to make lots of effort and get frustrated, go for java or even C, if you want a simple game visual basic is also a chance.

>>9846626
A shit

>>9846573
Well then you're kind of stupid and prone to believing superstition. It is a fact that adults with a fully matured brain outperform children at learning tasks, up until their 50's at which point learning capacity for new tasks declines rapidly.

>>9846641
[citation needed]

>>9846649
I don't really think you need a citation when commonsense tells you that it takes a child roughly 16 years to gain intermediate proficiency in skills like language and math. Yet an adult could learn either to equal proficiency in just a few years or less.

Don't be lazy.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=learning+maturation&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_
sdtp=

But you know, whether you believe me or not it probably wont apply to you since you will probably sabotage yourself through negative-stereotyping and other quirks. You see learning is a pretty involved process yet more or less standardized so everyone learns in more or less the same way. But most seem to fuck up and ragequit for whatever reason, and then believe that they can't do it when they actually can, or that they didn't learn anything when they actually did.

>>9846854
Children have more disk space so they can learn more.

You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Best way of learning is Japanese in origin:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_method

>>9846854
>>9846958
This whole argument is retarded as everyone is an individual and their are no absolutes.

>>9846958
There are no real hard limits to the amount of what can be learned and memory is more or less permanent. Prior learned knowledge actually helps learning new things.

As already mentioned a decline in learning only really starts to show in old age, even then you can learn most new things with enough motivation.

>>9846997
Everybody is a special snowflake?

Except that isn't the case. That argument is as dumb as the arguments creationists use to argue against evolution. People aren't special snowflakes, and there are no special unmeasurable pathways to the process of learning on the basic level. Biological and cultural distinctions can be made, however this has negligible negative influence (with exception to mental retardation, etc.) when taught how to learn particular concepts.

I feel that I learn faster now than I did as a child. I used to draw non-stop from the day I was born until about 12 or 13, at which point I was still shit.

This year (21 years of age) I approached it again as a hobby and became pretty good in a matter of months.

I imagine the general opinion comes from the fact that children have more time to lean and practise things, so it can come across as they learn faster.

I'm also learning Japanese much faster than I learned to speak English, and that's counting from the first word of each language spoken.

/prog/ pls go

bump

>>9847064
>he doesn't know the difference between identity and selfsameness

Boring shit. can't you guys fucking do something, not only talking about it?

The only reason kids learn better is they don't have that "I know everything I need to know and can't be assed to learn anything else" attitude most adults have.

>>9850680
Changing an attitude is very hard, though.

>>9850848
If you change your surroundings completely then you can free yourself of almost any habitual behaviors.

>>9850895
I know you had good intentions with that one, but that was a bit of a stupid answer. How many people do you know are able to completely change their surrounding on a whim without spending a lot of money or shattering a lot of connections?

>>9850929
Actually I was just saying how it works. If you're in a situation where every day is the same as the last with no apparent control or influence over your surroundings then you are pretty screwed.

>>9850848
I feel bad now that I posted here without some original content; here is an OC Touhou. Feel free to give them a name, and a nice home.

>>9850929

I'm currently in the process of curbing my excessive internet use and thus "freeing myself of habitual behavior".

You have to be creative, instead of eating at the computer, eat at the dinner table. Instead of laying down on your bed to relax, go to the living room or even go outside and take a walk. You do need some discipline and I am most definitely not perfect or reasonably consistent in my changes, but I am progressing and I am better off.

>>9850988
Yes, this guy gets it. Eating, and especially eating things you enjoy contribute to such disruptive behavior patterns. Excessive masturbation accompanied with doing nothing all day or browsing the internet is probably another likely contributor to self-paralyzing when it comes to doing things you want to do but never do.

If you make yourself vomit after masturbation maybe you will either gain a vomit fetish or learn to dislike masturbation...

>>9850568
You're improving. keep drawing

>>9850980
Ah, we should make another toho making thread one of these days. they were funny.

>>9851353
People started taking them seriously and trying to actually draw well and making up names and powers.

They're supposed to be "bully ZUN" threads, not "make original characters" threads.

>>9851376
Well, I liked that also, until a certain point.
I don't remember much seriousness apart from a couple guys at best.

A wide Yume Nikki.

>>9851717
Madokatsuki?

Working on a story about oc content in itself

>>9854812
...what?

>>9856335
Sounds pretty obvious to me.

The /jp/ Milk Tea project could use another person to help compose music. Programmers and a sprite artist (for the settings) would also be very helpful. Check out jpmilktea.freeforums.org if you're interested.

Here is a rough sketch of a witch that will appear in /jp/ Milk Tea.

>>9856353
I'm a programmer myself, mostly web related stuff but I have some experience with Python.

I read on your forums that you have or plan to drop it in favor of C++ and I would advise against it.

C++ takes longer to write and you have to worry about a whole lot more like memory management. Python has good libraries and frameworks available like PyGame if you're doing everything from scratch and not a VN. It's also cross-platform.

I'd post this on the forums but I don't feel like making an account just to let you know.

I'd be interested to join if you decide to go with Python.

>>9856585
>C++ takes longer to write and you have to worry about a whole lot more like memory management.
C++ with SDL is very easy and doesn't really take long to write.

Can someone who is good at drawing explain the deal behind contour practice to me?

I'm supposed to do a rep every day where I draw something without looking at the drawing while I do, and the method tells me to spend 30 minutes on each drawing. I usually finish in about 5~10 min though, even after trying to flesh out the minor details.

I'm using Cecil Hardy - Better Figure drawing. I don't really want to ask /ic/ because I'm kind of a beginner at figure drawing.

>>9856600
It's definitely slower than Python in terms of getting things done. A lot of it is based on how used to the language you are, of course.

I'm not looking to get into a language war here, sorry if I offended your language of choice.

>>9856600
If you're given to choose between sepples and X, you'll be grateful to have chosen X 95% of time, I'm dead serious about this, unless you know 100% what are you doing and why on C++ don't play with it.

Trust me, never go C++, never go full retard.

>>9856353
So what's this about?

>>9856694
Here is the information from the about page of the blog:

/jp/ Milk Tea is a project to make a 2D piece of life game along the lines of Animal Crossing/Harvest Moon. The game will take place in and around a town where players will stay at a mansion. The inhabitants will primarily be little girls. There will only be one masculine male character, a carpenter. Any other males will be traps. There will be futa too. Those details won't really matter much to gameplay though.

Emphasis will be placed on developing relationships (friendship or romantic) with the other girls/traps/futa. They will develop through various means, primarily like the social links in Persona games, but with more interesting events (as opposed to doing the same thing most of the time).

Aside from that, you will be able to grow plants in the garden (similar to how things work in Animal Crossing/Harvest Moon), visit the puzzle dungeon (temporary name) where you will be able to solve many Zelda-style puzzles, play a cooking mini-game (the details for this haven't been worked out yet), and other things.

Emphasis will also be placed on earning currency, but there will be various ways to do so. You'll be able to purchase clothes to customize yourself.

The main goal is to make a fun, easy-going game that allows players to be a little girl/trap/futa. It won't be a lewd game.

>>9856656
>waaah garbage collection too hard waaah
I share your sentiment.

>>9856723
So what kind of music would you be looking for? Cutesy bgm stuff?

>>9856585
>Python.
Bullshit, slow, and retarded syntax. Who the fuck makes a language based around forced indentation?

If you're not going to use C++, use Java, it's like C++ but without the memory management, which you should learn anyway. It's not like it's difficult or anything, not that C++ doesn't have libraries to manage memory for you.

C++ also does not take a significant longer time to write. You're saying it like it's some sort of hours difference. Besides writing code is fast anyway. That and your ability to write code is more important than if it is in Java, Python, or C++.

>>9856656
>>>/prog/

>>9856739
Simply put, yes. The current composer is thinking something along the lines of upbeat, happy music that is typical in some VNs. As for my thoughts on the matter, I've a playlist of music on youtube that I think sounds appropriate. Most of the music I've had in mind has come from Animal Crossing (Wild World/City Folk, a little from the original) and Hidamari Sketch (since the tone in it is very close to what I have in mind for this game).

I'd love to have jazz and ragtime songs too, though maybe just a few. If someone composes jazz, I will make it fit.

The current composer would like to have someone else join the development team so that he has someone else to talk to about ideas for songs.

>>9856773
>>9856735
>>9856656
>>9856632
>>9856600
>>9856585
Thank you for your opinions regarding programming. However, I've settled on C++ and I don't intend to change that decision.


Here is the original witch design.

>>9856792
Is there some recruitment process or do you just sign up at the forum and say "hay guis imma working here now?"

>>9856585
Store everything in the stack, problem solved.

>>9856929
Anyone can sign up, then help simply by giving opinions. As for recruitment for anything beyond that, I usually communicate with the person interested before anything is official.

Either contact me via e-mail (check the e-mail field) or IRC (#jpmilktea on Rizon). I'm not always on IRC, but I am on fairly often.

>>9856773
>>9856792
I like Java and C++. It's like a playpen keeping retarded corporate cock-sucking OOP children away from good languages.
Have fun hard-coding everything.

C++ OOP being shit doesn't imply it's too in other languages.

>>9857303
OOP is shit period, and any language with just one or two paradigms is flipping retarded and restrictive.

Was listening to Iron attack and felt like drawing fireflies.

Tell me how to draw hands. Don't give me that "practice drawing your hand" it doesn't work. Nor "draw a page of hands" It doesn't work. Tell me how hands should look and what kind of things I should and should not be trying to do when drawing fingers on them. I can't even copy them and make them look right.

>>9858248
Awkward leg position there.

>>9858312
Maybe the perspective? I drew it over a dummy that seemed to be right

>>9858309
When you practice drawing your hand, don't think of it as a hand with fingers and a palm, just think of it as some bumpy object with a lot of different angles. If you think "I am drawing a finger" then your brain will add in extra information about what it thinks a finger should look like, rather than what your eye is actually seeing.

>>9858309
try harder

>>9858309
>tell me tell me tell me
this is why you won't ever be a good artist.

now you have two choices:
-either you search for a mentor who is willing to pass down every and ALL of the observations he has ever done in his life.. (to teach to a incompetent ungrateful brat like you) and guide you into a competent artist.
OR
-you make your goddamn own observations.

now here i could tell you a easy way for beginners to study objects but nah, i don't feel like it.

>>9856792
Oh my. I'd like to help out a bit with music, but... It seems your composer dude is that guy. I'm afraid I will only feel uncomfortable and inferior, not to mention lacking, what with his penis being way larger than mine, figuratively speaking.

>>9859708
That or he could effort some and google it.

Is anybody planning something amazing for the big #100 coming up?

>>9864256
Yeah a stick figure

Wheres the OC at? This threads just mostly talking.

>>9866784
How about you post some then talentless fag

>>9864256
I'm going to hopefully start the thread with a big cute picture of OC-tan (The original loli version not that popular slut version that was submitted after and then someone changed the hair color from blue to green)

>>9859740
Well if you change your mind, we would be happy to work with you.

Finished the draft of another song

youtube.com/watch?v=TRBHSwI3Smk

I hope my music one day reaches her

>>9866788
OOO my feeling are so hurt.

>>9867797
Good melody.

>>9867797
This was actually really nice. The finale was great~

Rika Furude in Space Age.

>>9870102

Awesome

1000/10

>>9870102
It's a bit odd that there's details and shadings on everything but the face. Other than that, though;
>>9870116
What he said.

>>9867797
Good, but where's the bleep bloops?

>>9870102
Excellent, both in quality and the amount of detail!
>volume 1
Are you planning something bigger with this or is this a would-be teaser?

>>9870102
I'll explode in her planet, if you know what I mean.

>>9870102
this is beautiful, I wonder how big was the original psd file.

This idea soon, prolly tonight.

>>9870812
And I did this yesterday. I should learn some CS soon, I think.

>>9831510

I like it

Whatever happened to that guy that did the b&w pictures of touhou mostly and sometimes 2kreepy4you touhou?

I lost my old touhou folder trying to get most of the quality stuff like his back

The 1st one he did was of Aya

>>9870826
The scratchy line guy? Didn't he post a Miko pic a few threads back?

>>9830265
>>9830293
>>9830295

wwww

who programmer/composer/pixel artist here?

if you are please come here
irc://4ch.maidlab.jp/yotsubanome

>>9870914
I am two of the three things you've listed, b-but what are you going to do if I go there? Y-you're just gonna do naughty things, aren't you?

>>9870943
.... wwww

>>9870381
No boops this time, using a guitar. I like to keep the ukulele with the gameboys. I still need to figure out how to play my new snare and record that track to add.

>>9870863

Probably I don't know but if anyone has a link to any gallery or pages he might have i'd like them

if not could you re-up any pics of his you have

>>9872171
Someone already edited that one LOL Comics comic to add Chen, then that one guy did a voiceover because it apparently wasn't annoying enough:
http://youtu.be/WssU1yiuNX0
And this is intended to be funny rather than ironic, so you'll have a hard time topping it.

>>9872181
I have failed as a human being, I'm so sorry.
I didn't even know Reddit knew about Touhou as I was making my oc

>>9872195
There's a whole subreddit for Touhou:
http://www.reddit.com/r/touhou

They look up to us though. It's cute.

>>9872201
How horrifying...

>>9872201
>subreddit of Touhou
Oh my fucking motherfucking fucking ass God

What the fuck

>>9872201
The layout for Reddit is so awful.

>>9872195
What's your reason for the spoilers?

>>9872233
Because why the fuck not. There's no other purpose for them here, and I like to use them to give off the idea of a footer, or something.

>>9872247
You don't need to explain yourself. It's his gimmick.

>>9872181
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LnhOWkniX4&feature=g-user-u

>>9872223
I still don't get it. I respect that they're going for simplicity and avoiding JavaScript bullshite, but the site is confusing as fuck. Threaded comment systems don't work when you're arranging them by arbitrary votes.

>>9872249
I guess so, but it explains my use of spoiler tags in general, in case anyone actually doesn't understand it.
>>9872253
Make it stop

>>9872253
I like the way he randomly adds swear words. Everyone knows that makes things funnier.

>>9850568
Is that supposed to be Kanako?

>>9872522
Yup.

>>9872568
She looks evil.

Struggling struggling!

made this for someone in /a/'s weekend waifu drawthread~

>>9872666
It really looks like a 5-year-old made it. Not even joking.

>>9872604
I like the dark outlines and shadows. Gives it a charm

>>9872674
I don't think a 5-year-old could do that, it has this artsy feeling all over the picture.

>>9872857
I think you're imagining it.

>>9872666
Please take your stupid drawing back to your ''/a/ weekend waifu thread"

No crossbaorders allowed

>>9872674
They're both shit

>>9872861
art is all about imagination. Obviously you can't see it's effort was put in the coloring. It's like it was painted in watercolor.

>>9872892
No, it looks like half-assed shit.

>>9872892
>>9872666

You shouldn't have mentioned /a/, that's why people are bullying you.

>>9873364

it is okay

it is the punishment i deserve for betraying /jp/ and making people mad because of my creation

this is the weight i must bear for my sins

Added lyrics from >>9867797
Can hopefully get to the snare part tomorrow

youtube.com/watch?v=mi-2AtBxTeE

>>9873379
you're gonna carry that w/ä/t

>>9873710
You sure have guts reposting that pic like nothing happened.

>>9874030
It is not a repost. It is the original. Both its creation date, and post time happened before the fake version was made. I chose this one to be the original as it better fits in with what I made before as comprehensive set, even though the other is a better aesthetically as a standalone picture.

I'm sorry if this caused worry, or offence. However, I thank you for your concern as it shows people do in fact notice these pictures.

Any advice about how to improve it and give a "final touch"? I'm totally green in that aspect.

>>9874254
nice boat

>>9874266
Shit, I realized it after 2 seconds of posting.

>>9874288
looks like complete shit, to be honest. i seriously don't know how anyone could look at that and think to themselves ``huh, this is good enough to share with the world.'' there's just so many faults. i'm not sure where to begin, but someone experienced may be able to tell you where to start. or not.

>>9874547
If you try that hard to discourage me it sounds too forced and unbelievable, anonymous.

But even so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and thanks you for the harsh critic. maybe I'll manage to get something good from it.

I'm still looking for a more constructive opinion though.

>>9874818
why the hell would i try to discourage you? i'm just voicing my opinion on your pic, or is that illegal in these threads now? for fucks sake...

>>9875529
I agree with that anon. The keyword is constructive criticisms.

>>9875569
He wasn't exactly discouraging him either. If you get discouraged by so little you shouldn't post your work in an OC thread to begin with.

>>9874288
I like it, it looks like a Gurren Lagann eyecatch.

>>9873610
I'm surprised when I say this, but it's actually pretty good.

>>9874288
Let me butcher it.

>>9873610
Heh, nice. The melody's plenty fine, too. Don't really dig the lyrics, though, but could be just because I misheard some of the words.

Hey, pretty soon you'll have enough song for a whole album! Have you ever thought about doing one?

>>9875916
Your criticisms are too lax. Should've used more bully language because he's obviously a newfag who reacts to criticism with
>"BAWWWWWW WHY YOU TRY TO DISCOURAGE ME HATER"
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>>9873710
I had a dream about you and your odd art.

>>9877263
I hope it was a good dream, and that you have much success in what you do today.

>>9875916
I got a bit annoyed at "heads don't work like this". What part doesn't? Why doesn't it? Where can it be fixed? That looks lazy.

A lot of your assessments are pretty fair(if worded cruelly), but I think there are certain things that would give the wrong impression. The strange outlines and awkward shading ARE poor, but using generally the same colors as the background for the character is just fine, and actually how a low-light situation would work. That's obviously not the case here, but if I put myself in his shoes, reading that makes it sound like that's never a good idea.

Also despite the high contrast, I think you should have explained that the skirt and socks are not a very reflective surface and a strong highlight probably wouldn't have been applicable. The shadows are, like you say, missing, but a midtone is enough. She's not wearing latex.

>>9876024
Great! Now clean and color it.

Alright, tried to fix some of the problems pointed above.

>>9877438
you got annoyed that he pointed out one problem vaguely amongst that shitload of problems? >>9875916 is already basically spoonfeeding level, and he should give more? fuck, if a picture has so many faults that it merits that many complaints, then the artist should have taken the hint and not post it at all if he has any common sense. should have practiced until his art gets to a satisfactory level first before sharing it for ``criticism'' (which will either end up being perceived insults or spoonfeeding level criticisms). unless that level of art already satisfies the artist's, in which case, hey artist, you have shit taste and a very low satisfaction standard, and you should just go and off yourself.
>>9879362
doesn't change the fact that it still looks like a grade schooler's scribble.

I got an idea for a sex toy. It's like a wet rubber wheel used to stimulate your most private place.

Pic is a typical /jp/er using it.

>>9879885
Saved for future use.

>>9879885
It should have controls on top and interchangeable wheels for different textures.

>>9879362
Now looks like a bit better Gurren Laggan eyecatch, keep up the good work.

>>9879362
Here is a special gift for you.

>>9880567
>>9880576
Now that's just mean, you bully.

>>9880763
His efforts are something very valuable. I believe that independent of skill, or talent, effort will always find a way to make itself seen. I hope he does continue his picture till he reaches a point where he is satisfied it with it whether or not that means having other people satisfied with it. When I saw the picture for the first time, I thought it is was kind of neat. I knew I wanted to make a rendition of it.

I finally got around to it, and I am very sorry if you found offence in it for mean no ill will; it is an homage to the concept, and work put in by his part.

This lazily composed sketch is certainly all kinds of out of whack, but at the same time I'm satisfied with it in a weird kind of way.

So... who wanted free eye bleach?

>>9881341

looks like shit

>>9881341
Not again futa... please make also a non-futa version! Thanks!

>>9881341
make her penis smaller with huge balls instead

>>9881341
Why does futa always have really big weiners?

>>9881413
because it's hot

>>9881413

Not all of them do, just most of them. Besides JADF is a giant weiner kind of fan, so you havn't much to compare it to.

I'm not good with lighting, how it is /jp/ ?
It's ok to start coloring?

>>9881831
The light on the wall coming from behind the curtains should fade rather than be so binary. Her hair, the knife and the top of the lamp are too well lit for that amount of light, so either let more light in or draw more shadows. Speaking of which, they should also cast shadows on surfaces like the table.

Other than that, her fist is facing the wrong direction. We shouldn't be able to see the fingers. The folds on her shirt are a nice try, but somewhat off. Try adding a crease or two from below her arm toward the shoulderblade, for instance. Given the way she's leaning, there shouldn't be much anything slacking on the backside.

>>9881341
>Miku futa
REPORTED

Haven't made anything in ages.

Don't know if I could do better anymore. ;_;

>>9882267
It's lovely anon.

>>9882267
You'll always have a support with me, no matter how good, or rusty, you maybe.

>>9882278
>>9882292
Thank you anons.

Errrrrrrgh.

I want to do better.

I have to do better.

I'm getting tired of constantly having to tell people to just study some damn anatomy. Draw from reference. Trace if you have to, it helps to start.

>>9882341
And in your case, looking into perspective would be good too. At least you try, but that arm looks painful.

>>9882367
I would but it's hard finding good not ugly nude people that don't make me want to vomit.(I also don't know how the parts go together even if they are right in front of me)

I wish /ic/ was more useful but it's just full of traditional artists and hipsters yanking their dicks at their own art these days.(I wonder if it was ever useful actually)

I want to learn how to use photoshop properly for digital art though so I'm searching around for PDFs about digital painting techniques.

I am at lost.

Which one looks better?

>>9882466
They look alike enough for it to not matter.

>>9881341
Good as always. Some futa miku with luka would be better though.

>>9882466
1

2 would be good without niggerdick
the other 2 have lifeless eyes and worse shading

>>9882466
Is 4 Sanae?

>>9881341
>not posting the rest of the follow-up images
all of my why

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=30835330

>>9882651
that's not ugly just a bit indecisive
keep drawing you're good

>>9882651
>ugly
Anon, you're too humble

>>9882651
It's tewiffic.

>>9882491
>>9881341
>drawing stuff like this
All the why in the world.
seriously.

>>9883010
>>9883033
>>9883039
Self-degradement-for-more-comments-plan:
Success.

>>9883041
>thatismyfetish.jpg

>>9883043
Of fucking course it would work, you smart ass. No one likes unjust markings.

>>9883043
Are you a Jew?

>>9882341
Something looks weird about her mouth and nose.

>>9881973
uhh.. Thank you, somehow

There's so many thing wrong at my draw that I don't feel like finishing anymore...

>>9883757
Don't feel that way. You are already on the way to something nice. Think of it this way: you are much closer to a complete picture from that than a blank document.

>>9882651

Tewi-beautiful is a better file name

It's cute and I like it

>>9883041
You're in the wrong place >>>/v/

>>9882483
Yea just because those legs are brown doesn't mean they belong to a nigger. Ive seen Japanese dudes darker than most sun baked Mexicans and they're know for light skin.
Most people can be brown skinned if they want. Unless the guy that drew it says its a black guy/mexican then you cant assume hes black/mexican just because hes not light skinned.

>>9882367
>>9883085
Tried to fix it a little, plus detail.

>>9881341
Please do this to more Touhou, please. Healthy Patches with futa cock would make me happy.

>>9884629
Her nose is way to much to the left.

Drew this the other day. Any tips?

>>9884888
Adorable.

I love it!

i like to draw idols can i post them here?

>>9884973
Of course

>>9884137
Do you want to make me cry <:( ?
>>9884646
try /a/ drawthreads, dick hungry mongoloidthey're stuffed with dicks and bestiality, just like if they were /d/ or paheal ;>!

>>9886375
You are a bad person.

>>9886375
I can't tell if you're retarded or not.

>>9886604
It actually sounds like he's the troll stirring up those problems in said threads.

>>9886380
Yes, I am.
>>9886613
>problems
judging from what people says and requests, those things aren't a problem, but the raison d'étre of the drawthreads.
apart stalking and pursuing away from the board female drawfags like a real pack of wild potatoes from five years ago, I mean.
I'm not entirely sure about the dynamic of this though, as I was more interested in trying to understand if there was at least an artist that didn't trace.

>>9886682
There are like one or two people who request bestiality and one artist who traced a bestiality figure.

It's just that people don't care.

>>9886893
>and one artist who traced a bestiality figure
And even that was a one time deal because it was specifically requested to be done in that way. Not to mention it was done in /a/, not in /jp/.
I haven't seen any other bestiality figures before or after that.

Can you guys please stop talking about what happens in ANOTHER BOARD?
we all know that /a/ is 99% retarded, there's no need to explore the topic further.

>bestiality
thank god there's jaypoo...

>>9873610
not quite there yet but really nice!

>>9884888

Thanks to your input I've finally cleaned this one up. I think the "lag" in the bass from earlier was a poorly drawn triangle wave which has since been re-drawn.

youtube.com/watch?v=_pjzD2G70Lo

Thanks to your input I've finally cleaned this one up. I think the "lag" in the bass from earlier was a poorly drawn triangle wave which has since been re-drawn. (accidentally uploaded a broken mp4 in the deleted post)

youtube.com/watch?v=XFnOo4qbghI

Now for something else than futa...

Does /jp/ /f/lockdraw at all?

>>9887408
That is a beautiful hitbox.

>>9887408
>something not futa

Man...

>>9887429
Not sure what type of reaction that is intended to be.

>>9887408
Very nice, but she needs a futa cock warming inside her thighhigh.

>>9887408
As an ass lover, I approve.

>>9887449
It's fantastic and all, but I did expect futa. Can't say I'm disappointed or anything though.

>>9887408
it's a nice ass, but you could draw a nice dick there too

>>9887486
>>9887429
>>9887453
Well, that isn't exactly impossible to arrange.

>>9887501
>Foreskin

>>9887508
Who are you quoting?

>>9887501
nice

>>9887501
Mah nigga. I was wondering whether or not you ever draw futa with foreskin or phimosis. Guess this answers it.

>>9887534
I always assume my futas with foreskin. It's just that it's 98% of the time peeled back, so it's hard to tell.
I also always assume they have their pussies, even if the balls often block the view.

>>9887550
I like the way you think, bro.

http://w17.shellmix.com/canvas/

>>9887408
Thank fuck.

So this is probably not all that original of an idea but whatever I don't give a shit I just thought of it.

I want to make a novelty chess set based on SDM characters. I think it would be an interesting piece of fan memorabilia.

King: Remilia
Queen: Flandre
Bishop: Patchouli
Knight: Sakuya
Rook: Meiling
Pawns: Fairy Maids

Like I said, probably not too original of an idea but if done well I think might look pretty cool.

Sage'd so no one will read my stupid idea.

>>9889105

Too late far too late

now you have to make the other side too

King: Yukari
Queen: Reimu
Bishop: Ran
Knight: Marissa
Rook: Chen
Pawns: Alice dolls

>>9889217
King: Kaguya
Queen: Eirin
Bishop: Reisen Udongein
Knight: Tewi
Rook: ???
Pawns: Bunny youkai

>>9889528
King: Satori
Queen: Koishi
Bishop: Okuu
Knight: Orin
Rook: Yuugi
Pawns: zombie fairy

>>9889545
Rook could probably be Wriggle, no?

>>9889217
That list is shit. Here:
King: Yukari
Queen: Yuyuko
Bishop: Ran
Knight: Youmu
Rook: Chen
Pawns: Random fairies

>>9887408
YES!!!!!!!!!!

That thing this board is about? yeah that.

left done in oekaki board-tool-shit-turd-thing, right in SAI

>>9887262
Wow, my lines are really THAT screwed compared to yours. Thanks for improving my design.

>graepas embracing
Yeah, I'll embrace whatever god now.

How will you be celebrating the 100th thread?

I am going to do something related to OC-tan either a short comic (10-30 pages) or a PDF light novel.

Pic related the original loli OC-tan.

>>9891446
Here is the original version of the more popular OC-tan but people (Not the artist) recolored her hair because OC-tan must have green hair.

>>9887408

FINALLY!

goodjob dude

>>9891906
Totally not creepy nor disturbing in anyway whatsoever. Nope, no sir!

>>9891906
saw that, too many shitposts of late pushing everything off. Not sure if I want to bother finishing my sakuya now, or bothering to edit the stupid list to start another thread.

>>9892447
Cute, would hang on fridge.

>>9892447
Who is it on the left? I guess it's Kaguya on the right?

>>9892506
Mokou I guess.

>>9892447
>>9892506
>>9892513
Mokou and Kaguya on a treasure hunt to steal everybody's artifacts, and tewi sends in the helicopter buttplug shanghai to ruin everybody's fun.

>>9892447

Tewi peeking through the curtain

I LIKE IT! ANOTHER!

For some reason I really like the paper texture in sai.

>>9892447
>igaveup.jpg
Don't give up!

Practice I know it looks like shit but I just started color paractice

>>9895312
It doesn't look like shit, but, if you keep working on it, it could become even better. You've started your way to a nice picture, keep at it.

>>9895312
ASPECT RATIO!

>>9895323
Thank you I will keep trying then!
>>9895328
Can you explain more?

>>9895336
Oh please, you don't even know what he means by that?

>>9895336
think he/she/it means it looks vertically stretched.

>>9895350
No I don't know what is so thats why II asked

>>9895354
Thank you for explaining

>>9895312
It's not that bad, you can improve. Without any knowledge and just personal opinion, I think it would be better if you show more the strokes following the curves of the body and clothing to make them pop up better instead of being groups of heavy color. The hair would be better lighter on the tips. I like the color focus on the ribbon and how it seems to bleed into the rest of the blouse, but it'd be nice if it was more organic (curves and following natural lines) instead of the boxy lines in the pocket seams.

I like the skin coloring, specially how you chose to do the cheek blush and lips. The sketchy lineart around the defined facial lines allows for an interesting style with the sparse coloring you're doing. Like something out of a dream, not quite defined but very vivid.

Oh, and maybe do something so that the gradient between heavy pressure and the rest is more subtle. As it is it's a hard drop between the darker, more colored parts and the surrounding areas which are almost the same flat shade.

I hope this was useful and not just confusing. Really not my place to give proper critique since I can't draw a rock.

>>9895382
It was really useful and I am always happy to get critiques so that I can improve so I will keep what you said in mind.

>>9887322
Good work.
I like your taste.

>>9892447
Finish it nerd

Here's some sketch, I'm going to make the linework and stuff later

I feel like I need some help in hands...

>>9894748
You seem to like lolis too.
Very cute.

>>9895745
Practice makes perfect. Keep at working at it, and I am sure you can get better.

>>9895949
Almost fooled me with the pretty colors and cute face. The sword looks a bit weird, as well as the sleeve (no folds or creases, too rounded, not cloth-like enough). Also, I think I know what you were trying to do with her hand, but the way it's shown it's like her thumb is on the wrong side. Her pose seems unnatural and doesn't feel like she's in a slashing motion. The thigh seems too big, and might be too long as well?

Still, nice coloring, and it still looks decent.

>>9895745
Poor Futo, she has the case of mini-hands. I think her left hand should be larger based on that perspective.

Post limit already?

>>9901480
maybe time for new thread.