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>1.8 Patch Links
Pokemon FireRed based: http://animackid.wordpress.com/category/touhou-puppet-play-enhanced/
Pokemon Emerald based: http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/thmnemer18/

The former has custom music/cries, a slightly modified script, and Johto postgame. The latter allows you to make use of branching evolutions at any point, is more difficult (in a good way), and has a fully functional Battle Frontier. Both have the Attack/Special split despite being Gen 3. Pick your poison.

>Fuck it give me hacks upon hacks
http://www.mediafire.com/?33p16795wtp4plx

Includes patches and ROMs for quite a few Touhoumon hacks. Note that FireRed 1.8 MUST be patched using winips32a.exe. Agastya's 1.8 Emerald patch is not included because it's still being worked on. Go to the provided site to download it. See the FAQ section for more info.


>Resource Links
Type Chart:
http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Type_Chart

Touhoudex:
(has more in-game info) http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhoudex_2
(move and ability descriptions) http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Touhoudex

Touhou Type Analysis:
http://maya.sector-5.net/py/touhou/interactive/

FireRed 1.8 locations:
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhoudex_2/Locations_2

Emerald 1.8 info:
Check the damn folder

Shoddy Touhoumon:
http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/forum/index.php?topic=7.0

Emerald randomizer:
http://artemis251.fobby.net/downloads/emerald/

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>FAQs
Basic 1.8 info: http://pastebin.com/1DU2FLdD

Extensive description of all notable Touhoumon hacks: http://pastebin.com/iFfKieYi

As always additions/corrections are very welcome

>> No.9830144

>Puppet Play Ehanced
>Get all 3 rods
>Hina
>Hina
>Hina
>Nitori
>Hina
>OH SHIT IS THAT A nevermind high leveled hina
>Hina
>Hina
>Nitori
>Hina
>Hina
>Suwako
Jesus fuck I just want an Iku.

>> No.9830148 [DELETED] 

What a dork

>> No.9830151
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9830151

this is useful

>> No.9830211

Just an addition, the starter offsets for FireRed, left to right:
0x169BB5
0x169D82
0x169DB8

And starter's held item:
0x169C8F

>>9830144
Either you're unlucky or looking in the wrong place. You may need to surf, or fish with a specific rod, or be somewhere specific. Check.

>> No.9830240

>>9830211
Good call, forgot to starter changing info

In addition, R/S/E based guide:
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=79818

Touhoumon numbers:
http://pastebin.com/2JfdcfRZ

>> No.9830244

>>9830240
*forgot to include

>> No.9830324

Why does Erika's gym only make use of four Native-types?
Medicine, Yuuka, Minoriko, and Shizuka are the only ones who show up at all. I can name at least four others just off the top of my head that any of the seven or so trainers could have used.
At least include Wriggle so that there's some physical attackers in there. I don't want to be able to clean out the whole gym with a single special tank...

>> No.9830325

>>9830240
That guide applies as well to FireRed except that they're not grouped together. Also that list of IDs is for the Emerald hack, I'm not sure if PPE has the same mons.

>> No.9830330

>>9830151

Explain? I don't get it.

>> No.9830339

>>9830330
In Puppet Play Enhanced they have a bunch of evolved L1 mons for EV training. I was very confused when meeting them for the first time.

>> No.9830375

>>9830339

Oh, that makes sense. Glad I asked since my last save it right in the middle of them.

>> No.9830378

The Kusanagi Item for Rinnosuke increases only Physical Attack, right? I don't always trust the descriptions in those hacks...

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>>9830378
It does. The mirror does physical defense. The thpp wiki has good information on all the items if you need to verify more.

>> No.9830673
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9830673

That means he now has almost 500 Attack. I think can live with the fact that his Special Attack remains so low.

>> No.9831354
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9831354

...figuring out what moves for patchy to keep is going to be a pain in the ass

>> No.9831384

>>9831354
Water and Earth are super effective against the same things pretty much, swap out Muddy Water for Earth Power since EP is like 90/100 base and MW is somewhere around 100/80(?)

>> No.9831398

>>9831384
It's shows right there in the picture he posted that MW is 80/90, not 100/80.

But yeah, get rid of MW

>> No.9831447

>>9831384
>>9831398
I actually kept MW because I'm going to be aiming for APatchouli who'll get stab on it. Maybe I'd prefer Hydro Pump then though? ...it's a 5% difference in accuracy so probably actually. Might go to the move relearner. Regardless what to do about aeroblast is going to be more difficult. I could really use some water coverage on my team, all I have is wriggle who gets blasted to hell by ice

>> No.9831464

>>9831447
In that case you could just get Surf if she can learn it

>> No.9831486

>>9831464
APatch can't use Surf.

Thankfully.

>> No.9831496

>>9831447
What's the rest of your team like? I pity the fool that can't fit Shikieiki with Thunderbolt on their team. Righteous Judgement always comes in the form of a Thunderbolt from the heavens.

>> No.9831504

Anyone playing Another World? It's rather difficult for an edit of a pokemon game. Might just be me though, I'm kind of picky on which I like to use

>> No.9831531

I'm trying to work VBAlink so I can get Aki Sisters, but right when they started to evolve I got a connection error that forced me to reset...
Is it just because my computer sucks, or is there some setting I messed up?
I've got priority set at above normal, turned off pause when inactive, have different controls for each window...

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>>9831531

>> No.9831591
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9831591

>>9831496
Replace CRemilia with Wriggle.

Really I should probably use
>http://maya.sector-5.net/py/touhou/
but I'm too lazy to get on shoddy touhoumon

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>>9831591
also I could never find shiki in the safari zone

>> No.9831651

>>9831601
I got mine at the game corner. Purchasing the ultimate justice from what essentially equates to the mob just seemed too ironic for me to pass up.
Unless you're playing on Emerald? In which case, is your level fifty Patchy still a chibi?

>> No.9831687

is there a way to access a teambuilder without logging on to the shoddy server?

>> No.9831702

>>9831504
>>9831552
Ah, hell. I didn't know the trade evolutions were E4 locked, too. Took me about eight tries, and when I finally get there, the evolution fails.

>> No.9831776

Count: 9 CYoumu tomboys and 3 CLayla tomboys
Still haven't found a single feminine one of either yet.
I'm considering using a code to make all encounters feminine just so I can finally get these two... I need Youmu to complete my All Physical party, and my rules state that I can't move beyond an area until I've caught everything feminine that there is to catch.

>> No.9831785

>>9831776
Wow, and I just now found my first Yuyuko.
Feminine, luckily. Still need Layla and Youmu, though.

>> No.9831937

I swear to god. Any time I freeze something it only stays frozen for a single turn. Two if I'm extremely lucky. Wild Kogasa freezes one of mine with Powder Snow, though? Six, seven, eight turns of frozen solid.

>> No.9831977

>>9831651
Nah, playing on firered I'll slide her over to APatchouli after I beat the E4. Apparently Shiki she can be found in the safari zone but is stupid rare. Really the only realistic way to go about it would be to use nature power (sweet scent) I think. Actually considering if I found one she'd run I'd probably be better off getting her via the game corner.

>>9831937
It's a 20% chance of dethaw each turn. That's shit luck bro. How does this compare to sleep statistics-wise come to think of it? Granted it depends on which gen mechanics they're using. 3 is 1-6 turns, 4 is 1-4 turns, and 5 is 1-3 turns.

>> No.9831988

>>9831937
I've given up on using Hypnosis and Luna Dial for that very reason.

>> No.9832007

>>9831988
I miss when hypnosis had 70% accuracy

>> No.9832016

>>9831988
Maybe you can modify the effects to have more consistent lengths. Ha.

>> No.9832040

>>9831988
>>9832016
This?
How difficult would it be to make it so that you are guaranteed one turn of sleep/frozen, and each turn after that, the chances of waking/thawing go up. Something like:
1. 0%
2. 20%
3. 35%
4. 50%
5. 75%
6. 100%

>> No.9832054

>>9832007
Just use Sleep Powder.

>>9832016
>>9832040
Even if I could, I wouldn't. Just use Thunder Wave or Toxic.

>> No.9832064

>>9832040
I think it should be more like this:
0: 90% roll to stay effected this turn
1: 72% (80% previous)
2: 51ish%
etc
where the number is how many turns it's been since the effect was added, not how many turns the affected pokemon has tried to break out of it. Granted, this would probably not be balanced.

>> No.9832114

What do I do after beating Marisa in Another World? It told me to go to Muenduka but the only thing here is this Monolith that does nothing when I talk to it.

>> No.9832158

How's this moveset for Mokou?
Blaze Kick
Brick Break
Attract+Focus Punch
or Sunny Day+Solar Beam
or Earthquake+Will o wisp
Depending on the enemy trainer's gender and theme.
Attract+Focus Punch for male trainers
Sunny Day+Solar Beam for Water and Earth users
Earthquake+Will o Wisp for just general rapeyness. Earthquake will take out any other fire users and Will o Wisp will severely limit the usefulness of non-fire type physical attackers.
I chose Blaze Kick over Flare Blitz and Eruption because I don't like recoil and Eruption doesn't make use of Mokou's good attack stat. I wish there were a useable fire attack that had 100 accuracy, too. I might even replace Blaze Kick with Fire Punch, just because I really dislike missing.

>> No.9832163

it would be neat if we had a hamachi or tunnelge for VBAlink so we can have trades and what nots

>> No.9832174

sometimes i critical with a recoil type attack on my 600+ attack youmu and it just 1 hit kos her is that normal?

>> No.9832187

>>9832174
Things like this are why I dislike recoil.
Just had a thought: Can a substitute take your recoil for you?

>> No.9832224
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9832224

...I'm not too sure about this one. Encore or yawn /jp/?

>> No.9832235

>>9832174
I thought recoil was based on damage actually dealt? A crit shouldn't matter if you would have killed the opponent anyways, that sounds off.

>> No.9832260

>>9832224

yawn for stacking calm mind

>> No.9832352

>>9832260
..yeah that was a pretty obvious choice come to think about it. Thanks

>> No.9832531
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9832531

...and then my save file corrupted for some reason.

Anyone know of why this is? I'm playing the Emerald version, and I have a savestate before entering the E4 just in case.

>> No.9832580

>>9832531
First of all, check your save type.
Flash 128k?
If so, then I don't know. If it isn't...
Make it so.

>> No.9832633

>>9832580
Ah, that fixed it. I completely forgot about that.

It works fine now, thanks a bunch.

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9832634

Uh... what? Too bad this isn't still being worked on, because there's no way that's intentional.

>> No.9832709

>>9832634
>Boneka skills
Oh yeah, stopped reading. This is the most annoying thing about FireRed PP.

>> No.9832722

>>9832634
Inner Power is in Swarm's slot, and Dream is in Bug's slot, so it should still boost Dream moves.

That's quite an impressive fuck-up, though.

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>>9830673
He now has almost as much Attack as EV-trained Deoxis-A.

>> No.9834144
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>>9831687
The Team builder as well (as the sprite downloader) are both available without having to log in to the server.

>> No.9834150

>>9834144
Thank God, that thing's really great for making an in-game team. Wish the move list had an additional column indicating whether a move is learned by machine, level-up or as egg move.

Still no clue why I would have to sign up somewhere to play 2hmon online, though. I don't want yet another account somewhere.

>> No.9834182
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9834182

finally beat the E4. Team's kinda dull but you're somewhat limited in PPE

>> No.9834196

>>9834182
Isn't PPE's selling point that you can use all side evolutions even before the elite 4? I believe that it is quite possible to acquire most exotic Touhous by either fishing, surfing or walking around in the Safari Zone. That should suffice for a cool team. I would start again right now if I wasn't sick of grinding.

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>>9834182
MVP was without question Toyohime. See pic. Good defense + yawn and calm mind was pretty broke. Next up would be Wriggle, if only because I was getting my ass handed to me by renko before I looked at the typings and realized power whip solve a few problems.

>>9834196
Nah, you have to wait till the national dex to access stone evolutions (exception: AKeine). You've kinda merged agastya's Emerald and PPE together. The former allows stone(shard) evolutions at any time but no sliding evolutions. Vise Versa for PPE

>> No.9834213

>>9834210
So, by PPE, you're not referring to ``Puppet Play Emerald''? Guess that's my fault, then.

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>>9834210
and then as a reward I was greeted with a bunch of credit glitches. And some quote I forgot to screencap. Something like "Blah blah great adventures, but it was all dream in the end". 2mariana4me

>>9834213
er, whoops yeah that's an easy mistake to make. I meant for it to mean "puppet play enhanced". I'll just call it FireRed 1.8; much more clear.

>> No.9834599

About to finish off Erika in FR and boy do I hate wasting a slot in my roster just so I can cut down those damn respawning trees.

>> No.9834833
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9834833

That Salon Maiden is pretty weak. She couldn't even deal any real damage and had such brilliant strategies like Ice Punch Patchouli or Tenma with Return, even though it doesn't have any happiness at all.

Guess the A.I. isn't always a cheating bitch...

>> No.9834844

Medicine is Officially my favorite puppet for catching.
Ingrain
Attract
Stun Spore
Leech Seed/Poison Powder
I have both a tomboy and feminine one, just in case. I switch to Poison Powder if I'm going after a Native, which are immune to Leech Seed. Ingrain keeps those pesky Whirlwind/Roar users from ending the battle, and things that run away start off with a Block+Baton Pass user that I haven't put together yet. Leech Seed, Ingrain, and Stun Spore keep my little Buttercup/Suzuran from dying while I throw my balls at puppets. I just have to be careful to get them before Leech Seed kills them.

>> No.9834879

>>9834844
I'd rather go for something with False Swipe. Incidentally, only two Touhou natively learn False Swipe, and they both suck, so they're perfect for getting pounded on when Touhou resists being caught.

>> No.9834935

>>9834879
Block/Shadow Tag+Baton Pass
into
Ingrain+Stun Spore+Baton Pass
into
Appropriate gender Attack Keine with False Swipe egg move and Attract
Wait, does Baton Pass also pass on Lovesickness?

>> No.9834978

>>9834935
Checked, and no. It doesn't pass on lovesickness. So, yeah. Keine gets Attract.
That means, at the end, when I'm throwing balls at the thing, it will have one hit point, be paralyzed, lovestruck, and unable to run, and AKeine will be unable to be kicked out of battle and regaining Ingrain and (maybe) leftovers health each turn.

>> No.9834983
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9834983

Okay...

>> No.9835008

>>9834978
Ah, more efficient method.
Shizuha with
Block
Ingrain
Stun Spore
Baton Pass to

AKeine with
Attract
False Swipe
Blah
Blah

>> No.9835019

does anyone know where to get whatever it is that evolves puppets into their advent forms? I really want an advent reisen, that typing is pretty cool.

>> No.9835042

>>9835019
Emerald or Fire red? In Emerald, you want the Solar Shard. In Fire Red you want... Rainbow... something.

>> No.9835043

>>9834983
Why is Taya upside down?

>> No.9835051

>>9835043
She's doing a flip so she can get a good pantyshot.

>> No.9835087

>>9834983
I wonder why the AI is notoriously too stupid to properly use Explosion, and why hackers still write teams that use that move.

>> No.9835102

>>9835087
Is it really so difficult to have the AI know the typing of you puppet and automatically disregard moves that they are immune to, and only use moves that they are resistant to if they have no others?

>> No.9835189
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9835189

It seems that sometimes the A.I. just picks moves at random, unless of course Aki Sisters don't know any grass attacks for some reason. Sendai is part Ground type and a grass attack should take it out quite easily.

>> No.9835285

>>9835189
But I know that the AI is at least a little smart. They were spamming Magical Leaf when I was abusing minimize in Erika's gym, and Yuuka, who didn't have Magical Leaf, was using Coerce to get me to stop using it.
There's at least a little bit of good programming in there...

>> No.9835294

>>9835189
....Whens the last time you updated because i'm pretty sure your outdated.

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>>9835294
Unless the Emerald hack was updated without anyone saying anything about it, i'm pretty sure that i'm playing the most recent version.

>> No.9835330

>>9835314
What's the date on your zip? Should be... October 2, 2012. If not, then http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/thmnemer18/

>> No.9835345

>>9835314
well considering the salon maiden had an ice punch patchouli and TAya had explosion. I'm pretty sure you are outdate since the salon maiden's silver team is like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aga5xrTp6HY&list=UUudOyEzCQpAWWdruwhq2J5g&index=2&feature
=plcp
and if that was a gold team well why would the creator, who likes balance, put illegals sets.

>> No.9835359

Is there any way to Fly in Johto at all? It's such a pain having to run around...

>> No.9835364
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9835364

>>9835330
>>9835345
Seems like i really have an old version, since my zip says 26.09.12. Well, time to update and get rid off Easy Modo Battle Frontier

>> No.9835513

Well, I'm pretty sure this is where my "Cannot advance past a place if there are feminine puppets you haven't caught" rule is going to screw me.
Safari Zone. *shiver*
Time for hours and hours of searching for those super-rare spawns to come up, only for it to be a tomboy five times in a row.

>> No.9835533

>>9835513
Can't you just breed for female?

>> No.9835534

>>9835019
>advent
In the FireRed one you can exchange 3000 game corner coins for a Rainbow Shard in the Goldenrod Game Corner. Not sure how to get that on Emerald.

>> No.9835621
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9835621

>>9835533
You can't get a female from a male, when breeding. If they're two different species, then the result will be the same as the female's species. If you're using a "ditto" and a male, the result will always be male.
That's part of the reason I always go for a female. A female and a "ditto" can produce a male or a female, so you only have to catch the one and a single "ditto".
Speaking of ditto.
WHY?
Do you even know how hard it was to get here without cheating? I thought for sure there would be something awesome here, but nooooo. Had to stick a rock in the way.

>> No.9835628

>>9835534
In Emerald there's a group of people who will give you shards in exchange for Red UFO's.

>> No.9835661 [SPOILER] 
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>>9835621
Oh. Okay, I get it.

>> No.9835684
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9835684

#1 Badass

>> No.9835724
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9835724

>>9835534
>Goldenrod Game Corner

Shit. Thanks for the answer anyways. Buying coins should be kinda tolerable with speed up. Might get a Shiki while I'm there

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9835731

>>9835724
Wait nevermind shiki is in celadon. Not sure what's in Goldenrod. By the way how is the postgame in FireRed?

>> No.9835782

>>9835364
No it's still kind of easy since the EVs and Natures are fucked up due to how bad I am at making Nightmare modules.

On the bright side, I learned how scary the vanilla Frontier actually is so I'm going to be able to add hellmurderdeath to this one as needed.

>>9834983
This is hilarious, though.

>> No.9835783

Oh, wow. I just realized that a Steel-type using Fury Cutter can get it up to 960 BP on the final hit.
With Sakuya's Focus giving it 100+ accuracy so that it doesn't miss on the way there, that seems WAY OP.

>> No.9835864

>>9835731
Nothing exceptional. Just reached Ecruteak and beat Morty, and until now most maps were really resemblant to the original johto ones, even if they are full of cutoffs and bad mapping stuff.
Wild encounters seem to be randomly levelled, I even I found a wild lv98 AKaguya...
Just don't expect anything pretty and it can be quite enjoyable.

>> No.9836402
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9836402

Oh man, why is the Battle Pyramid so annoying? It already takes forever to get through it 3 times, but in order to get gold you have to do it 10 times. It doesn't help that trainers can apparently have Brightpowder as an item, making you miss half of the time...

>> No.9836535

I'm returning to Blue version for a bit, 1.8 Emerald is just making me miserable. Not because it's bad but because it's unfamiliar and harder. It's at least been a nice change of scenery.

>>9836402
Exaggeration much, it only increases it 10%. And I'll take that over enemy trainers using items any day of the week.

>> No.9836630

>>9836535
Have you gotten to Battle Tower in Blue? If you have a fast and powerful enough user of Fly, its fun to go up against the first person in the Battle Tower by using Fly three times. It's also a great way to powerlevel something else with an Exp. Share. That first guy is the reason my D EX Remilia is higher than anyone else on my team by about six or seven levels.
I was going to load a picture of my Blue Version team, but apparantly my saves have all been corrupted, including my save states. I have no idea how... Y.Y

>> No.9836728

>>9836630
Check >>9832531 about your saves. And I tried that tower once, it is brutal, and I never beat it. And you're talking about the juggler guy with 6 exploding Kedamas right? I thought those had focus bands, or whatever it was to stop OHKOs. Regardless, I just used a Ghost type, they're totally helpless against that.

>> No.9836795
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9836795

>>9836630
>>9836728
>>9836630
After searching and fiddling around with things, I found an old save from immediately before I started running battle tower... Apparently, I forgot to import into VBALink from regular VBA. Silly me.
Here's the team I used, only they were on a lower level. If I remember correctly, China was a few levels below Bruno's and she solo'd her, mostly with Counter and Slack Off.
Indolence is the one.The Mimis don't have Focus Bands. Indolence trains my newly hatched eggs like that, so I know. They've never survived a hit from her.
I got to the top of Battle Tower once, and that shit was hard. The rest of the game may be pretty easy, but he didn't hold back when setting up Battle Tower.

>> No.9836807
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9836807

>>9835864
Hrm, I kinda figure it'd be underwhelming. Kinda disappointing considering I can finally make use of shard evolutions and the outlet to use them on kinda suck. Ah well. First order of business: get RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPED

>> No.9836808

>>9836795
I want to make a run through E4 using only the Darks, now that I've caught them all. I just have to train up Dark Wriggle and Momiji without letting them "reform".

>> No.9837035

>>9836807
Oh but there is still one quality sidequest in the post-game: The ruby and sapphire crystals that grant you access to Cerulean Cave and Navel Rock, that together house 3 legendary touhous. Also there're some PC-98 touhous in Cerulean Cave, so you should do such quest.
Oh and gym leaders still pose a threat in Johto for unprepared teams, so you should have a good use for your shard evos. Also you can re-challenge every gym leader in a 6v6 lv100 battle, so there's a lot to it in the post-game, more so than bad points.

>> No.9837160

A or S Flan?
please respond

>> No.9837207

>>9837160
>please respond
Really? Seriously? Wow...

>> No.9837217
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9837217

>>9837207

>> No.9837237

>>9836795
Thanks, yes it isn't a hard game besides that tower. Which, I kind of appreciate being able to play with cute Touhous without needing to be a great battler.

>>9836808
Just keep them miserable, you monster.

>> No.9837268

>>9837237
My strategy? Torture.
Literally. Have them repeatedly faint and bring them back with Revival Herbs. Guaranteed results.

It's what I had to do to get Thirst into DE.

>> No.9837447

>>9837035
Oh alright. Thanks for the rundown, that sounds good enough. I'm oddly looking forward to seeing what's been done to the map after reading this: http://lkaexe.supersanctuary.net/nitpickzone/

Now I've just got to figure out a new team. I swear all my favorites are either reason or shinto. TByakuren is a given... D or AdYukari would be nice. Toyohime is still awesome; her T form looks interesting but I think I prefer the defense of the normal form...

>> No.9837454 [SPOILER] 
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9837454

Hmm... I'm at Burned Tower in Ecruteak, and I gotta ask, do those shiny starters start roaming johto or are they gone forever, and I could only pick one of the three?

>> No.9837477

>>9837447
It's just ports of the stuff in the Japanese patches, I doubt Ai changed anything there.

Still, that doesn't mean Japan didn't fuck something up themselves.

>> No.9837765
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9837765

>"I see puppets that can prevent escape...And, I see your puppets unable to flee from their terrifying grasp..."

>> No.9837800

anyone know what the touhou equivalent of dragonite is in FR?

>> No.9837910

>>9837800
By equivalent, do you mean using the same ID number, Dex number, or being a total boss at winning shit?

>> No.9837945
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9837945

>>9837910

The latter.

>> No.9837981

>>9837945
Uuuaaaaaaahhh... Really a matter of opinion, there. Any Steel-type user of Fury Cutter has great potential, especially Sakuya with Focus. Obviously the Legendaries are pretty badass. Shizuha is a more subtle badass in that she is great for baton passing. Patchy has a really good spread of elemental damage, and proper use of her different forms can get you some nice STAB.
Rinnosuke, apparently, can get ungodly amounts of Attack, especially if you give him Kusanagi.
I don't know if there's anyone as universally powerful like Dragonite is. It's pretty balanced as far as I've seen.

>> No.9838056

>>9837981

Hmm, well thanks for your thoughts. Even though it sounds like there might not be one, the balance that just reinforces is a nice positive.

>> No.9838143

My one question in this thread iiiiss.
How do I get this hack version?
I already have a firered rom hack with the patch that achiya had but it never works for me.
It still the same firered game with no maribel/renko in it.

>> No.9838179

>>9838143
Did you read the patch instructions that came with Aichiya's game?
Did you patch with winips32a?
Which ips file did you patch with?

>> No.9838214
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9838214

Stop being so awesome, Murasa, you're making the rest of my team look bad.

>> No.9838321
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9838321

Things that would never actually happen.
I'll go first.

>> No.9838369

>>9838214
Man
Reisen was like that for me
Now which one of these has Sakuya as a starter?

>> No.9838385

>>9838179
Yes and the touhou puppet play enhanced

>> No.9838388

>>9838369
Blue Version does. You can also hack the game to let you start with whoever you want. >>9830240 has details on that.

>> No.9838393

>>9838369

I believe some of the older 1.5 ones did, and from what I remember Blue did as well but I'm not certain.

>> No.9838401

>>9838388
>>9838393
>Blue version
Lucky me
blue is my favorite
thank you

>> No.9838419

>>9838385
I don't know what the problem might be, then. Are you... opening the rom called Fire Red (U)? Because it doesn't change the original rom, it creates a new one when you patch...

>> No.9838450

>>9835783
I originally hated Fury Cutter, and never learned it with anyone. Then I passed my PSP to my sister for a change, who promptly got hooked on Touhoumon, and ended up learning Fury Cutter with one of her Touhou (Yumeko, I think?). I secretly laughed at her, but only a few minutes later, she completely devastated a gym only with Fury Cutter. That's a pretty damn nasty move.

Oh, and that's a true story, by the way.

>> No.9838478

>>9838419
Yes I am using that :o
If it creates a new one then what am I suppose to use?

>> No.9838480

my lvl 24 Genji just single-handedly took out some trainer's lvl 40 spider bitch...so good

>> No.9838485
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9838485

>>9838478
The other one, It'll have the same name as the patch.

>> No.9838492

>>9838485
Thanks for helping me out all this time but sadly I do not have the GBA file of it for some reason D:

>> No.9838499
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9838499

Geriatric NINJA tortoise

>> No.9838579

>>9838492
Looks like natural selection is preventing you from playing.

>> No.9838692

updated em again. it's primarily frontier stuff so you can hold off on updating if you're not that interested in it.

>> No.9838703

>>9838321
bwahahaha, holy shit ;_;

>> No.9839169
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9839169

so fycjking lucky
cleared Gym 5 using the most underleveled team (Genji lvl 30, Kedama lvl 25, Kedema 30, CKomachi lvl 25, Shanghai lvl 27, CYuugi lvl 34)

one of the most epic battles i've ever played..Genji literally dealt a magnitude 10 death blow to the to last Hina on 1hp which saved the day. no joke. my Komachi dealt the final strokes to the last Hina (paralyzed) with pain spilt and her whirlpool...fuck

>> No.9839184

wop, wop, wop..

Genji Style.

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>>9839184
forgot pic

>> No.9839897

>>9839169
Two Kedemas?
u wot m8

>> No.9840187

>>9839169
Is that gym seriously running Hina x 3?

>> No.9840195

>>9840187
It seriously is.

>> No.9840275

>>9840195
Holy shit, they're even all the same typing.

>> No.9840829
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9840829

what do I do /jp/?

>> No.9840835

>>9840829
Master ball

>> No.9840846

>>9840829
Save scum, attack her with not effective attacks or just simply use ultra balls

>> No.9840848

>>9840829
For guarantees use a Master Ball. Otherwise be very conservative with your attacks. If you don't mind being a bit of a cheat save state right now.

>> No.9840856

>>9840829
Save scum and catch it and give it to me.

>> No.9840861

>>9840829
Do you have any lower level Touhou on your team? If so, use them to catch her.

>> No.9840872

>>9840829
Seriously just use ultra balls until you catch her, she have a high catch rate.

>> No.9840933

>>9840829
savestate like a mother until you catch it

>> No.9841007
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9841007

Caught her in a nest ball for the hearts animation, then duped her till I had all the evolutions

>> No.9841022

>>9841007
You're not even going to use her? And I thought my nicknames sucked, at least try.

>> No.9841028

>>9841022
He could throw Sanae in and fight with team slut, glistening from fresh semen.

>> No.9841056

>>9839897

I brought two along because I knew the trainer would have at least two Hinas use explosion, so I wanted to use self-destruct before that. Didn't actually go that well really since I lol-forgot that their being underleveld by comparison wouldn't result in a KO. I did get one of their body slams to inflict a crucial paralyze on one Hina which I then whittled away before self-destructing >>9839897

I brought two along because I knew the trainer would have at least two Hinas use explosion, so I wanted to use self-destruct before that. Didn't actually go that well really since I lol-forgot that their being underleveld by comparison wouldn't result in a KO. I did get one of their body slams to inflict a crucial paralyze on one Hina which I then whittled away before self-destructing

>> No.9841091
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9841091

Ugh, I'm never gonna get past Brawly at this rate. Damn.

>> No.9841095

>>9841007
yo. whats with the fake HLetty you got there?

>> No.9841207

Should have just brought a Youmu.
My Youmu cleared out the entire gym on her own, starting around the mid-thirties.
Because she was holding a lucky egg the whole time, when she finished, she was level fourty-five.
Let me list off the benefits of using Youmu in Koga's gym.
Steel makes her mmune to Poison. Ghost makes her immune to Explosion.
Need I say more?
It's like she was made specifically with Koga in mind.

>> No.9841211

Is Dark Alice supposed to be from some doujin, like the Advent Forms?

>> No.9841256

>>9841207

That would have been a good idea..too bad the only Youmu I have is quite underleveled at lvl17. Where did you pick up a lucky egg at before the gym?

>> No.9841271
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9841271

I tried using the Focus Sakuya + Fury Cutter strategy in Battle Tower, but it doesn't really work that well there. Too many enemies there can kill her with one hit and the A.I. likes using Quick Claws. When it does work by chance though, you sweep an entire team like it's nothing.

>> No.9841306
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9841306

Couldn't have done it without letty

>> No.9841329

>>9841211
This is the only lead I have on her.
http://hijiribe.donmai.us/pool/show/363

>> No.9841398
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9841398

>>9841329
Looks like that's her. Seems like a pretty random character choice, but i won't complain since her stats are quite awesome.

>> No.9841450

>>9841256
CTewi carry them. They show up rarely before Mt. Moon, and I got lucky hehe with the first one I caught.

>> No.9841465

>>9841450

No kidding...guess i'll be on the lookout when I see them

>> No.9841616

>>9841306
this team is adorable

>> No.9841668
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9841668

Oh boy look what I found instead of a Red Gyarados...

>> No.9841702
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>>9841398
Dark Alice just solo'd the Salon Maiden rematch. One must not underestimate the power of SO DEEP AND DARK JUST LIKE MYSELF ;_;

>> No.9841757

>>9841668
It would be cool if shiny Suwako had Kanako's colours.

>> No.9841765
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9841765

Well this is what I get for trying a blind nuzlocke run ;_;

>> No.9841799

Where do you find Nue at in the fire red hacks, specifically Aqua+Yui version?

>> No.9841807
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9841807

Pokemon Emerald predicting Jojolion?

>> No.9841832

>>9841757
Well, ASuwako's shiny colors match Sanae's.

>> No.9841840
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9841840

>>9841832
Forgot pic

>> No.9842203

>>9841799
Please respond

>> No.9842245

>>9842203
No idea, check your dex, or if it came with a readme or something. Or maybe ask on Pooshlmer.

>> No.9842264

>>9842245
I don't have her in my dex, unfortunately. The Touhoudex doesn't even HAVE an entry on her either. Who is Pooshlmer?

>> No.9842278

>>9842264
Well if the dex doesn't have an entry it's because she's under the nationaldex numbers. Maybe she's only available in the postgame?
And it's not WHO's pooshlmer, more like WHAT's pooshlmer.
http://pooshlmer.com/wakaba/

>> No.9842277

>>9842264

>http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Nue
>http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhoudex_2/Nue

?

>> No.9842281

>>9842277
Irrelevant to A+Y. She's an unofficial puppet, but I thought A+Y came with locations?

>> No.9842285

>>9842277
>Aqua+Yui Version
That hack is 1.5 stuff, not 1.8.

>> No.9842293

>>9842285

Wait, really? I have been using them both as reference for my FR playthrough

>> No.9842296

>>9842277
I'm playing a 1.5 version, sorry.
>>9842278
I don't have my dex filled out, I'm only at Saffron trying to train my Yumemi. I'll look around there though, thanks.
>>9842281
I didn't get anything besides the .gba

>> No.9842304

>>9841765
Byakuren: "Just as planned"

>> No.9842315

>>9841799
Safari Zone entrance has her at a 10% spawn rate.

>> No.9842333
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9842333

>>9842315
Thanks, friend!

>> No.9842354
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>>9837477
Got it. I was looking forward to ledges: the region too ;_; . Of course I'm assuming their fuckups aren't as bad as world link's.

>>9841807
uh-oh. Looks like her emo is contagious.

also that team analysis thing is pretty nifty

>> No.9842357
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9842357

Alright, so I'm training up my team to go up against Giovanni, and I thought I'd throw some statistics out there, just for trivia's sake.
If you catch one of every puppet available, excluding evolutions (CTewi and Tewi only count as one), then you will have caught exactly seventy-two puppets before starting on Victory Road.
My dex reads at Eighty-seven right now, so that means that I have evolved fifteen puppets.
I plan on my final team for E4 being as shown, only some will be on a higher level. Going for pure physical punishment.

>> No.9842363

>>9842357
It's shit
I say it just to say it

>> No.9842370

>>9842354
Their fuckups are both more and less subtle at the same time. The Sanzaka(sp) patch that most of the extra content is based off of was double battle spam, and most teams were just Attack Yuugi/Attack Flandre/Speed Utsuho/three whatever elses.

I haven't played Enhanced so I don't know how bad it is, and I don't care enough to since only the Red gauntlet interests me, so I have no idea how bad Johto will be.

>> No.9842439

>>9842363
Its shit because physical attackers get the fuzzy end of the lollipop in Touhou. Most of them can't learn their most useful stab physical attacks, and even when they do, the attacks just aren't as good as a special attack of the same accuracy. I don't believe there is a single physical attack with a 90 BP and 100 accuracy, yet there are at least three special attacks with that and also a chance to set off a secondary effect.

>> No.9842455

>>9842439
The only actually -good- physical attack is Earthquake, and three of my puppets know it.
Aside from that one attack, though, you have to deal with some combination of low accuracy, recoil, and low power.

>> No.9842466

>>9842439
>>9842455

There are loads of great physical moves. It's just that for every good physical attacker, there's at least two special attackers that function equally well.

A lot of physical attackers also get Tailwind (Dragon Dance) so if you let them they'll happily sweep you, or they can just Band themselves to hit you hard out of the gate. Here, have a list.

Body Slam - 85BP - Heart - Paralyze
Crunch - 80BP - Beast - Def drop
Drawn Line - 80BP - Steel - +2 crit
Earthquake - 100BP - Earth - 2x damage on Dig
Force Palm - 80BP - Faith - Paralyze
Heart Break - 80BP - Dark - Nothing
Ice Ball - 90BP - Ice - Def drop
Leaf Blade - 90BP - Nature - +2 crit
Poison Jab - 80BP - Miasma - Poison target
Return - 102BP - Illusion - Nothing (Only use if you have nothing else to use)
Sculpture - 95BP - Steel - Never misses, Bypasses Detect
Slash - 90BP - Beast - +2 crit
Soar - 90BP - Flying - Can hit through Fly/Bounce
Strength - 80BP - Dream - Raise Attack
Waterfall - 80BP - Water - Flinch

>> No.9842513

>>9842466
Maybe I just make bad choices on which puppet to use. Wriggle can't learn the most useful physical Native move (leaf blade) and Yorihime can't learn the most useful physical Faith move (force palm).
The only good physical fire move for Mokou is Flare Blitz, which pretty much requires you to keep Recover on her moveset as well.
Murasa can't learn the most useful physical Ghost attack (Shadow Hit)...

>> No.9842518

>>9842513
>Native

>> No.9842562
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9842562

>>9842518
Just calling it what the game calls it.

>> No.9842581

>>9842513
Wriggle gets Soar and Tailwind. Camo Needle Arm is passable for a 90 BP Nature move, and it has a handy flinch rate.

Yorihime learns Drawn Line which is far more useful than Force Palm, and has crazy mixed elemental coverage. Unfortunately, she's in an environment that doesn't have Life Orb.

Mokou can use Blaze Kick and Strength, but she doesn't get 100% accurate 90+ BP Fire Stab sadly. Still cool though.

As for Murasa.. Shadow Hit is a lame move anyway. She's really hurt by the stupidly late Waterfall TM, but her defenses are passable. Not my first choice for a water ingame, though.

>>9842562
I have no idea why Aichiya localized it to "Native" honestly.. the characters for it can only be translated to "Nature." He might have been going for a "Native Faith" joke but there's not even a Nature/Faith Suwako form.

>> No.9842620

Is there Japanese version of patch?

>> No.9842623

>>9842620
I'm working on one, right after I finish my Japanese patch for the English patch of Saya no Uta.

>> No.9842641

>>9842581
To be honest, I'm not that disappointed with Yorihime not learning Force Palm, since her equal arrangement makes her my team's token special/physical mixup and she learns Extrasensory.
Plus, there's some equally annoying omissions from the Special attackers' side, like Tenma not learning Earth Power.

>> No.9842663
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>>9842623
I'll fugging kill you bitch
:DDDDDDD

>> No.9842668
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9842668

curse you noland

curse you and your defense murasas and reflects

>> No.9842670

>>9842623
No, I mean is there japanese version of this mod for japanese game?

>> No.9842676

>>9842668
What are special attacks?
or did he have light screen also?

>> No.9842685

>>9842670
I'm pretty sure that the Fire Red mod was originally Japanese, and Aichiya localized and translated it. You'll be wanting the original, right?

>> No.9842686

>>9842668
i want to make a complaint about wattson being strangely hard in your hack compared to any of the other gym leaders, and I couldn't find any fitting pokemon to grind against because I beat all the trainers and the only wilds I could find were 10-15 levels under him.

his highest level puppet seems "too good" because of mirror shot, don't remember what puppet it was and I'm not 100% positive about how I'm remembering this, but I felt somewhat cheated and had to savescum the battle despite being slightly overleveled than him

>> No.9842701

>>9842676
The entire team he rolled was specially bulky (HLily White w/Mana Charge, Advent Alice, Defense Murasa), so Tojiko was dead weight. Lily set up Reflect shortly before it died and Alice finished Tojiko off.

Reflect let Alice survive a Momiji EQ in the red to burn her, so Momi was helpless against DMurasa.

All I had left for DMurasa was ALily Black with Outrage/Extremespeed/Selfdestruct/Steel Wing, so.. yeah.

>>9842686
Yamame walls Iku, Shizuha and Minoriko can Leech Seed it, and Medicine walls 3/4ths of Wattson's team.

>> No.9842713

>>9842701
This. Leech Seed is probably my single favorite move. Full Stop.
Combine it with Stun Spore, Attract, and Ingrain/Double Team/any move that raises defense or special defense for extra Jew.

>> No.9842714

>>9842701
>all that shit
Brick Break sounds helpful

>> No.9842730

>>9842701
well, at that level I don't have the utility moves with most of the puppets that I had to beat his iku without countering her directly, I just think that MAYBE being able to grind without it being a slow sludge (not as bad a world link, though) or even waiting until the next gym leader before taking off the gloves would be better, JUST because of the levels of the wilds in the accessible area. and the fact that frankly half the puppets suck in terms of diversity until right before level 30. I really don't want to be forced to counter something so early in the game, being slightly overleveled with type-evenness should be fine; in Yellow, brock only worked with your starter choice because Mankey was easily accessible and 50% of the pokemon you could catch before that point either had high speed or countered rock, and because it was so early there was no shame in throwing away a pokemon that you got a gym leader's worth of levels on.

>> No.9842752

> (not as bad as world link, though)
Didn't World Link unlock the Match Call Rematches at the start of the game instead of after you beat Norman?

I remember grinding off the breeders and aroma lady rematches for watson there

>> No.9842783
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>>9842730
>at that level I don't have the utility moves

>> No.9842811

>>9842783
Sorry, not into the nature type touhous. At all.

>> No.9842818

oh no poke encyclopedia doesn't work with this

how will I check IVs now? fffffff

>> No.9842821

>>9842811
then boy are you not gonna like Kasen.

Also prepare for grinding to death or get yourself a miko and work with that mon.

>> No.9842822

>>9842811
Just get rid of it after you beat Watson next time and stop making excuses.

>> No.9842845

>>9842811

Who do you have on your team then? I've been struggling so far, I'm almost at Wattson and wanna see if it'll be tough or not.

>> No.9842844
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9842844

>>9842811
I'm sorry, could you repeat that, young man?

>> No.9842882
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9842882

Any suggestions as to who my final friend will be? All I need is a water type.

>> No.9842884

>>9842882
what version are you playing?

>> No.9842888

>>9842884
Aqua+Yui, it's a 1.5 version. Is Murasa any good? I like her anchor.

>> No.9842894

>>9842882
>water type
Captain Motherfucking Murasa!
Ghost-typing nullifies her normal weakness to miasma makes her immune to dark. Her water-typing and attacks let her take out beast-types before they can make use of her beast weakness.

>> No.9842897

>>9842822
"You don't have the right puppets" is a bad excuse for a gym leader that I either need to counter, or grind hard and savescum against if I pick the starter that /they/ counter.
>>9842844
I can't even get her by that point.
>>9842845
If you have Alice as your starter, make sure to pick up a puppet that's not countered by Wind or Heart before you do all the trainer battles. That's my only advice, you should be fine otherwise. You shouldn't have any trouble except with TIku's Mirror Shot and only if you put a lot of effort into an Alice. Man, the game isn't open enough at that point to make something totally counter the starter. One gym leader later or earlier and I would've been fine with it, but that was obnoxiously placed.

>> No.9842899

>>9842894
1.5, bro.

>>9842882
Murasa wasn't that bad if I recall, she had a pretty monstrous HP stat. It's just most 1.5 waters not named Nitori were pretty terrible.

>> No.9842900

>>9842888
Been awhile since i played that version but Murasa, YHSanae (http://amarilloviridian.co.cc/wiki/index.php5?title=Ayanote/YHSanae)), Cirno and Komachi are pretty good mons. Swimsuit forms can be a thing also.
YHSanae is a bit of thing though since she can either get drizzle or intimadate.
Nitori is a thing because of rain abuse

Nothing else comes to mind since I never really use water types.

>> No.9842904

>>9842900
appearently i like to say "a thing" alot. I need to learn to stop saying that as much.

>> No.9842911

>>9842897

So it's just Mirror Shot then? I picked Sanae, so that part shouldn't be much problem since she resists it, and Decision always hits. Everything before it was a nightmare though. Beast type first gym combined with enemies that knew Rock Tomb made them counter my entire team. Unkillable CSara and TIchirin ran a truck over everyone. It was horrible.

>> No.9842914

>>9842911
Heh, yeah Mirror Shot is the only major problem with Wattson. It just stood out way too much. First or second gym I was okay with the possiblity of countering a starter because the wilds were well tuned.

>> No.9842915
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9842915

>>9842894
>>9842899
This version doesn't have any of the Beast/Nature/etc typings, but if I'll try to look for her.
>>9842900
I wasn't aware Swimsuit forms were a thing. If I would have known about all of Wriggle's alt. forms I would have just made a team almost entirely out of Wriggle. That makes me kind of sad, now that I think about what could have been.

>> No.9842916

Is it possible to play and enjoy this game without knowing the ins-and-outs of Pokemon?

>> No.9842920

>>9842916
It's possible, but you'll need a lot of grinding. You should at least learn about the Type system (which is different from Pokemon)

>> No.9842937

>>9842916
Its a very simple game to learn, 1.5 and 1.8 are both pretty nice versions but they are different from each other. I recommand 1.8 because everything is pretty much usuable besides for a few mons.

>> No.9842945

>>9842914

I was about to disagree, but then I remembered all the fliers in the start that'd make the gym a breeze, but I didn't want to use them because they weren't Reimu or Aya.

>> No.9842959
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9842959

>>9842897
>I can't even get her by that point
I try to make a funny about one of the scariest touhous getting offended at your statement, and this is the kind of response I get...

Also... what is this? I... don't quite get the logic of having this move in her learnset? Is it some sort of joke about her being a "firebug"?
Because it's not funny and less than useful to say the least when her Sp. Attack is less than half her Attack.

>> No.9842976

>Also... what is this? I... don't quite get the logic of having this move in her learnset? Is it some sort of joke about her being a "firebug"?
Because it's not funny and less than useful to say the least when her Sp. Attack is less than half her Attack.

Heatwave is just a move that flying types ussually get.

blowing hot air, or something.

Cannot find a save game editor that works the romhack ahhhhh how will be perfectionist with my breeding now ; ;

>> No.9842984

>>9842976
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=265635
Does this have a save editor? Most of its tools worked with the emerald hack, so if it does it probably should work.

>> No.9843003
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9843003

Just beat Red in FireRed. Is that the last piece of story present in it, or is there nothing else but fill the Dex?

>> No.9843050
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9843050

GODDAMMIT!
You see how close that was? That one hitpoint was the difference between Wriggle sweeping what was left of Giovanni's team with Needle Arm and me having to struggle through with Yuugi, Yorihime, and Mokou...
Fire Punch didn't even beat Wriggle, but the permanent Sandstorm that Giovanni's Suika kicked up at the beginning of the fight did. Fucking hell.

>> No.9843058
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9843058

Soon™

>> No.9843081

>>9843058
>PWriggle
What did you do to her!?!
>EWriggle
The Ara-ara is strong with this one...
>BWriggle
>Bug/Water
Look out Fire and Ice users, Wriggle is no longer weak to your powers, and she's out for revenge in a cute bathing suit!

>> No.9843093

>>9843058
What overwhelmingly great taste. Only drawback being the glaring weakness to flying. But hey, it's not like every other mon can learn a flying move.

>>9843081
What's wrong with Princess Wriggle?

>> No.9843107

>>9843081
Nobody is a match for me now!
>>9843093
It's cool, I have Nue for that.

>> No.9843181

>>9842984
>http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=265635

I think this only rom data and not saves, but thanks for trying anon!

>> No.9843186

I'm lillywhatever cove in emerald, and I haven't found a Speed Shard yet. I desperately need to use one now. What item does it replace? I want to see if there are any hidden ones I might have missed.

>> No.9843195

>>9843186
There's one in New Mauville next to the generator. Additionally, Chibi Rins hold them at 5%.

>> No.9843200

>>9843195
Thank you.

>> No.9843671
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9843671

>>9843050
The enemy surviving with one HP left happens way too often in Battle Frontier. Some versions of Yuuka and Goliath Doll even tend to survive a Fire Blast coming of 140 base special attack. That's of cource without Focus Ribbon, which actually almost never seems to work for the A.I. or is never used.

>> No.9843673

>>9842466
>It's just that for every good physical attacker, there's at least two special attackers that function equally well.
This is one of my biggest problems with Touhoumon 1.8. All the pure, cute and stylish Touhou use special attacks, while all the lame, ugly and slutty Touhou use physical attacks. I wish the score was a bit more balanced.

>> No.9843687

>>9843671
I believe some Touhou have abilities that prevent one-hit KOs.

>> No.9843694

>>9843687
Sturdy doesn't work like that in this generation.

sturdy would only block.. what.. sheer cold and judgement in this game?

>> No.9843692

>>9843673
>momiji
>lame

>> No.9843697

>>9843673

My favorite character favors special attacks in 1.8. She has one form that can go mixed but I want to punch faces in with her more.

>> No.9843726

>http://thpp.supersanctuary.net/wiki/Akyuu

Holy shit is that a big movepool
Is she the Ditto of 1.8?

>> No.9843727

>>9843673
>slutty Touhou use physical attacks
Look Yuugi may be promiscuous, but she's promiscuous like a guy is. When she has sex, she doesn't let the other person have something, she scores. Yuugi is a hardcore Viking warrior-king in a rocking hot woman's body. It is not possible for her to be a slut, even if she sleeps around more than Marisa, Nue, or even Sanae.

>> No.9843734
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9843734

>>9843726
Does this answer your question?

>> No.9843735

>>9843726
Akyuu can learn anything because she knows Sketch

>> No.9843736

>>9843726
No, she is that Sketch Pokemon whose name I forgot. Ditto is Kedama.

>> No.9843738

>>9843736
Smeargle?

>> No.9843781
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9843781

I just fought a random trainer in the Battle Arena who had Shingyoku-o, Shingyoku-f and Yuugenmagan. I thought those were special Touhous that only the best trainers can use...

>> No.9843782

>>9843736

Ah okay that makes sense now...didn't know Kedema was the Ditto.

>> No.9843809
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9843809

This is how I Genji.
Chen had brought her down to a tiny sliver of red with Soar right before Ran used Roar and pulled out Genji. Ran insisted on using Tailwind six turns in a row while Genji used Fly three times and actually beat her. The split experience (half to Chen and half to him) leveled him four times.

>> No.9843845

>>9843809

Mah Tortoise

>> No.9843886
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9843886

If this man gets paid by commission, he must love me so much right now.

>> No.9843899

>>9843886
bad idea

>> No.9844125
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9844125

It's too bad the game can't understand why I'm laughing, because I'm pretty sure it would have a very cute blush on its face if it could.

>> No.9844194
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9844194

That last battle got a bit cheapened by the fact that Kuro-chan had a streak of good luck with Kogasa's Blizzard missing, and was able to get a bunch of Tailwinds in, pretty much ending the fight with Slash/Soar spam after that.
The fight that gave me the most difficulty was Lorelei. I barely scraped past her with a single puppet.

>> No.9844443

>>9844125
Owned like hell right there.

>> No.9844791
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9844791

Why would anyone even make sprites for the 5 Magic Stones...

>> No.9844874

>>9844125
Does 100% accuracy in heavy rain apply to gen3? Bulbapedia says that was introduced in gen4.

>>9843738
Yes Smeargle.

>> No.9845164
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9845164

Why does Kasen have Inner Power? It really doesn't seem that usefull if you're not Dream type...

>> No.9845226

This trainer sent out GMystia out against my Princess Wriggle, that's a bit humorous.
>>9845164
Might be an accident with the abilities, I think someone else was pointing it out earlier.

>> No.9845247

>>9844874
I'm pretty sure that was started in gen 2, but I could be remembering wrong.

>> No.9845264

>>9844874
>Does 100% accuracy in heavy rain apply to gen3?

Thunder could hit 100% accuracy on rain in gen 2

>> No.9845287
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9845287

>>9845226
To be fair, it has a second ability which is much more usefull. The other thing was about Inner Power's description saying that it raises Reason instead of Dream. That one was in Aichiya's hack. This Kasen is from the Emerald hack.

>> No.9845307

So my Wriggle team got swept because somebody thought it was a good idea to make bug weak against ice

Why

>> No.9845320

>>9845307
Bugs can't handle the cold. Unfortunate, but true.

>> No.9845323
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9845323

It took way too long to find this...

>> No.9845331
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9845331

>>9845320
That doesn't mean you should make them weak against a fourth type, three was enough

>> No.9845344

>>9845331
Bugs are not very resiliant. They will die to absolutely anything.

>> No.9845347

>>9845331
Besides Mothra
bugs are crap

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9845364

>>9845344
>>9845347
Bugs are strong!

>> No.9845366

>>9845364
Let me put it this way; be very impressed they only have four weaknesses, because if not for balance reasons, they should have a weakness to fucking everything.

>> No.9845370

>>9845366
You should have a weakness to my dick

>> No.9845376
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9845376

>>9845364
Sup

>> No.9845378

>>9845370
You will never have me, fag.

>> No.9845387

>>9845331
>>9845366
At least they're not still weak to poison.

>> No.9845393

>>9845387
I dunno, I use it at my house and it is super effective.

>> No.9845778

>>9844125
does that aya/team benefit from rain dance in the first place? It sure did help my toyohime sweep

>> No.9845787

>>9845778
Well, that Aya is the Wind/Flying type, so it might know Thunder, as does Sariel. Since I started with a Steel type, she might have been planning on taking Yorihime out the next turn with it. Only reason I didn't have to deal with that is because my Thunder got a critical. It wasn't super-effective.

>> No.9845832
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9845832

>>9845164
Seems like it's supposed to run an Endure + Inner Power + Reversal set, but Meiling and Speed Meiling can do the same thing and get STAB for their Dream type.

>> No.9846032
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9846032

The hardest part of this game is choosing who to bench and who to keep on your team.

>> No.9846039

>>9846032
More like, the hardest part is deciding whether to go for battle strategy or use your favourites and have to go through tedious grinding.

>> No.9846056

>>9846039

Who says I can't have both? The problem is that there are too many characters I want to use but only 6 team slots.

>> No.9846061
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9846061

Oh man, this took way too long. Also, his Sendai is apparently so bulky that it can somehow survive STAB Luster Purge from modest, EV-trained Dark Alice, even though it's super effective.

>> No.9846169

>>9846061
Sendai is probably one of the hugest threats ever. Super Bulky, Awesome Physical attacks, really good movepool variety to add to that.

>> No.9846344
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9846344

>>9846056
I find it impossible to use a team made with just my favourite characters in Battle Frontier, especially since you can only use 3 characters in most matches and can't just switch out after beating an enemy.

Unless Lily Black is your favourite, stuff like Baton Passing Speed Boost will also be impossible, making sweeping even harder. Most of my favourites are also Faith or Reason types, making diverse teams that much harder to create...

>> No.9847211

>>9846344

Well, I really like Aya so that part shouldn't be a challenge. I really like a lot of characters so I have a large pool to choose from, but the difficulty comes from picking who to keep on a team.

>> No.9847277

what are "MagiStones"

>> No.9847312

huh, the goliath doll is pretty awesome

>> No.9847416

>>9847277
The Five Magic Stones from... I believe it's Story of Eastern Wonderland. The only Touhou boss that isn't actually a person, if I remember right.
Unless you count Yugenmagan, but at least it has eyes...

>> No.9847599

>>9847416
10:45 PM - Reisen Udongein Inaba: INCOMING IKU LOL
10:47 PM - Reisen Udongein Inaba: okay so I stand no chance because he has pokemon considerably higher leveled then his gym
10:47 PM - Reisen Udongein Inaba: hate it when they do that

>> No.9847605

>>9847599
>>9847416
Oops, I didn't mean to quote you. Sorry.

>> No.9847626

>>9846032
pretty much. During a normal pokemon game I'll have a "bench" of 2 somewhat viable contenders/pokemon that have had a place on the main team at max. In this game I have nearly half a box full.

>> No.9847646

>>9847599
that persons like a retard

>> No.9847685

>>9847646
youre like autistic

>> No.9847708

>>9847685
how?
of course the gym leader is gonna have higher level mons
and he hates when they do that? come on

>> No.9847726

>>9847312
ran is interesting too. Nasty plot, binding voice, mana burst, thunderbolt/flamethrower/fireblast off of 100SpAtt and 110Att ain't shabby

>> No.9847733

>>9847726
*110 speed

>> No.9847746

>>9847708
keyword:
>considerably

>> No.9847800

>>9843671
The Battle Frontier things could have perfect IVs or something

I wonder if RNGing works for this game the same it does for vanilla emerald..

>> No.9848440
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9848440

Fuck canon, I need an HM slave.

>> No.9848472

>>9848440
Remi has Fly, Cut, Strength and Rock Smash. REMI STRONG!

>> No.9848483

>>9848472
You missed the part where Namazu doesn't have Shadow Dive.

>> No.9848657

Has anyone caught a Namazu in the Safari Zone? All i'm finding are Nitoris, Hinas, and vare rarely a Suwako. Haven't even seen the big guy once..

>> No.9848829

>>9848483
Try Kogasa. It has both Surf and Shadow Dive.

>> No.9848983

>>9848829
I also need rock smash, strength, etc...

>> No.9849094

>>9848983
You'll never fit 8 HM moves on one Touhou, you know.

>> No.9849141

>>9849094

If only people were able to somehow hack the game and fix these ancient HM gameplay antics..

>> No.9849165

Does anyone know what pokemon cKasen replaces so I can make her my starter?

>> No.9849185
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9849185

>>9848657

Well finally...only savescrumed about 100 times or so in the smae location, but ro, thar she brows!

>> No.9849286

>>9849141
The games should just give you key items which allow you to use the HM without having to learn it. Like a Power Glove which lets you use strength or a surf board.

>> No.9849434

>>9849185
>100 times or so
Lucky bastard. I spent about two hours real time at 600% speedup fishing before I found him. To maximize my efficiency, I had autofire B going so all I had to do was hit shift, then down left A. Rinse and repeat until you go into a sort of foggy state where you aren't awake but you aren't asleep.

>> No.9849436

>>9849434
>down left A
*Down Right A

>> No.9850255

Which starter should I chose?

>> No.9850535

Somehow my savefile vanished. Are there any cheats that let you set the nature of encountered Touhou in Puppet Play 1.8? If there's one thing I really don't want to go through again, it's that,

>> No.9850539

>>9849434

Yeah not fun. I don't have speedup on the emulator i'm using, so what I did was just to make a save state right as it said I caught something and then reload that until I had him. I didn't know if all the ponds in the zone would have him or not, so I was just crossing my fingers.

>> No.9850584

>>9850535
There are some ActionReplay codes on Gamefags for Emerald, but only the alternative ones worked for me without instantly crashing (I didn't actually try the nature cheat though). If you're desperate, you could go to Safari Zone, catch as many of Kedama as you can, and breed the one with the right nature with the Touhou you want, while having Kedama hold an Everstone. 50% of the resulting eggs will have Kedama's nature.

>>9850255
Personally, I think Alice is best, since Reason is way overpowered in my humble opinion. If you want fast instead, you could go with Reisen. Heart is a solid defensive typing, but she will still go down fast if something actually hits her. Sanae sucks. You wouldn't want a slut on your team, right?

>> No.9850591

>>9850584
>You wouldn't want a slut on your team, right?
Of course not. TO what do Reason and Heart roughly translate to in the original Pokemon?

>> No.9850597

What's the easiest way to trade in this game if you're playing with yourself?

>> No.9850605

Are there any PSP emulators that allow speedup?

>> No.9850621

Autosage?

>>9850255
Look at what they do and decide from that? Otherwise go with whatever is cute to you and hope for the best.

>> No.9850640

>>9850605

bsnes/hikan might be able to, but its not been ported to the platform yet, but the source code is libre so that might be possibilty at some point.

>> No.9850643

>>9850640
Bsnes never will. I mean you need an i5 to play with it properly.

>> No.9850653

>>9850255
Sanae has the most difficult early game with stuff hitting her SE right out the game. Can't say much else. Reisen is what you'd expect from a fast sweeper.

>>9850591
Reason is most like psychic. Heart is pretty unique. Check out the typing chart.

>>9850597
I've not done it but I keep hearing about vbaLink

>>9850621
>Autosage?
very much so

>> No.9850668

>>9850584
>>9850591
Sanae has Water Pulse and Serene Grace, she's very annoying. One particular trainer in the fifth gym shows this.

>>9850597
Emulators with link capability are unfortunately quite rare, but there's VBALink, hopefully VBA-M some day. Basically don't expect trading to work.

>>9850643
I think he's trolling. I hope he's trolling.

>> No.9850683

>>9850668
So no chance of getting DAlice for example if you play alone?

>> No.9850686

>>9850668
>Basically don't expect trading to work.
It works fine as long as your computer can handle two instances of the emulator.

>> No.9850704

>>9850686
>>9850683
I meant to say "don't expect it to work if you're on a handheld, or don't like using Wine, or what >>9850686 says" my bad.

>> No.9850713

>>9850704
Oh I see. No problem then.

>> No.9850737

Can someone tell me how do you get a Dark Alice/Advent Alice?
The official wiki lacks lot of informations and the shitty wikia isn't more helpful.

>> No.9850765

>>9850737
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhoudex_2/Chibi_Alice
Unless it was changed, this should be correct. For Emerald, all that information is in Stone Evolutions.txt

>wikia
Update your bookmarks already.

>> No.9850821

>>9850765
Thanks a lot. Totally forgot about that file.

I don't use the wikia eh, that's the first result on a fast google search. Didn't think the good wiki would have informations about Touhoumon.

>> No.9851165

Alright, so Block is on Minoriko's egg move list and I bred a male Meiling who knows block with a female Minoriko.
The resultant Minoriko did not know block.
Is there a step that I'm forgetting?

>> No.9851203

So, if I picked the fossil on the right side at the begining of FR, does that mean i'll get Hijiri at some later point?

>> No.9851223

>>9851203
Hijiri is from the Amber in the museum. Orb and Hakkero are Reimu and Marisa.
So, in short, yes. But you will also get Hijiri if you choose the other one.

>> No.9851300

>>9851165
What hack? It doesn't apply to Emerald, but does to Blue version.

>> No.9851388

>>9851300
Fire Red 1.8.

>> No.9851623

>>9851223

Thanks for the clarification.

>> No.9851771
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9851771

Holy shit, that was a close victory. Good thing that Technical Toyohime is so slow...

>> No.9851981
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9851981

Soon...

>> No.9852037

Whoa, page 9 no thank you~!

>> No.9852040

>>9852037
This is long past bump limit.

>> No.9852042

Then how did you see this~?

>> No.9852052

>>9852042
Huh?

>> No.9852060

>>9852042
just because it reached the bump limit doesn't mean the thread is gone. It still has one page left to go.

>> No.9852194

>>9851388
The Aichiya one listed at the top? Her egg moves appear to be the same as Emerald, and Block isn't among them.

>> No.9852319

>>9852194
Well shit. How am I going to get my perfect catching setup now? It was supposed to be Shizuha with Baton Pass, Block, Stun Spore, and Ingrain passing it off to Attack Keine with False Swipe, Attract, Sharpen, and whatever.
Now I'm going to need a third puppet to set up the perfect catching scenario. One that can learn Block and Baton Pass.

>> No.9852491

she's plumbing the depths. New >>9852477

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