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What is the realistic life expectancy of a NEET?

Assuming their parents allow the NEET to live with them and don't kick him out.

>> No.9773186

same as anyone else

>> No.9773187

Is she getting fucked?

>> No.9773188

Parents with no life insurance = Die shortly after death of parents.
Parents with life insurance = 5-20 years after death of parents depending on amount of money inherited and how it's used.

>> No.9773193

With the unhealthy lifestyle most of us lead - probably not much. I can already feel this body fucking itself over and my chest hurts sometimes.

>> No.9773204

>>9773193
Exercise can be fun.

>> No.9773213
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>>9773193
Same here.
I should probably try and do something about it but exercising is such a bother.

>> No.9773215

Get a job you fucking moron.

>> No.9773221

>>9773215
wouldn't you rather live a fun life and die shortly after?

>> No.9773220

I plan to live awhile.

I'm on SSI now and hoarding money. I rarely spend any of it so I've got about 20,000 now and each year it grow by around 11,000. When my mother dies then I get 100,000. Her health is fine at the moment so I don't anticipate this will happen within the next 10 years, so that's around 130,000 in hoarded SSI money alone.

What's the smartest thing to do with 230,000 dollars that will extend my NEET life as long as possible? One of the options I have considered is relocating to one of those poor asian countries where the exchange rate would be heavily in my favor.

>> No.9773226

>>9773215
It would be a pain in the ass to find a job that fits my lifestyle right now, which means I would have to change how I sleep and eat and all of that.

>> No.9773223
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>>9773213
>>9773193

>> No.9773228

>>9773221
I think you're confusing fun with laziness.

>> No.9773230

- No proper exercising
- Bad diet
- Fat, bad teeth, general health issues
- No social contact
- Untidy room full of dust

35-50 years max

>> No.9773234

>>9773220
I wouldn't want to move to a dirty, crime infested country if I were you.

>> No.9773236

>>9773230
What about steal stuff everything and lyingto policeman?

>> No.9773240

>>9773220
Laos is pretty laid back and out of the way, it's also cheap and very safe in general.

>> No.9773256

>>9773220
That doesn't sound too bad. Perhaps one could even adopt a loli there too.

>> No.9773267

>>9773230

>- No social contact

Doesn't that improve survival odds though?

No social contact means no need to go outside, which means reduced risk of sun cancer, entirely eliminates the very real risk of dying in a traffic accident, as well as some less common but still dangerous possibilities (killed during botched robbery, a crazy man with a gun, etc) that only will arise if you're outside in a social environment.

>> No.9773273

>>9773236
Seeing how most neets outside of \jp\ are criminals, yeah.

Those two apply too.

>> No.9773277

>>9773273
I was a thief before I became a truNEET, if that counts.

>> No.9773278

>>9773267
Lonely people tend to die earlier.
Google it, there is like a million links.

>> No.9773279

>>9773193
I don't care about my body anymore and do things to it that I know are harmful.
This way I won't even have to kill myself, I will stop functioning soon enough.

>> No.9773280

>>9773267
How old are you?

>> No.9773284

>>9773273
You mean, most neets inside of /jp/ aren't?

>> No.9773290

>>9773279
Yeah, pretty much the same attitude.
I'd be doing drugs if I could.

I will need to find job soon though, but hopefully this will allow me to pick up a good old alcoholism.

>> No.9773297

>>9773267
>which means reduced risk of sun cancer
Humans need D-vitamin.

>> No.9773298

Does anyone else feel torn about this? I think I want to keep being a NEET, but I don't know for sure. I've got two personalities up here and they both want to do two completely different things.

Part of me wants to just keep doing this. I like staying in and I like being alone. I could keep learning languages, playing games, and having fun, just keep NEETing it up as long as possible until I die.

The other part of me wants to live wild and crazy, work out until I look great, do speed to give me a different personality, and then travel around to other countries partying, sleeping with random women, chasing after wild thrills, and generally just being a stereotypical crazy cokehead that thinks he's invincible.

I know I like the first one, but the second one sounds exciting and wild. I've never done exciting and wild before, I don't know if I'd like it but I'm still intrigued.

>> No.9773303

>>9773298
people like this actually come to /jp/ now. #epic #motivation #decline #YOLO

>> No.9773315

>>9773278

>Lonely people tend to die earlier.

But loneliness is just an emotion. Maybe they drink a lot?

Either way though, if anyone is lonely for longer than a year then they're retarded. There's billions of people out there, if someone is lonely then they need to change their life so they can do whatever they want to be doing and stop being lonely.

If you have no social contact then it should be because you don't want any and then in that case you wouldn't feel lonely. If someone wants social contact but they don't go after it then that doesn't make sense since it's a very simple and easy to fix problem.

>> No.9773326

>>9773298
I kind of know what I mean.
At times, some part of me wants to just do insane things, something like the trip in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas or somet shit.

>> No.9773328

>>9773303
You're not helping.

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>>9773220

Philippines would be a good choice. 230,000 would amount to 10 million. Can buy a luxury condominium unit 1.5 million. then keep 5 million in bank that would yield a good monthly interest rate of about 17,000. You wont need a job but don't spend too much and you can have a great healthy meal for 500 day. The only thing thats expensive here in Internet connection.

>> No.9773335

>>9773315
Socializing releases endorphins that combat against stress for one. Shut ins and NEETS would benefits greatly from this since they stress so much about being lonely and whatnot.

>> No.9773336

>>9773303
You don't have to be truDEPRESSED to post here.

>> No.9773365

How about you stop being a neet and get a job.

You could just get a part time thing masturbating horses or something

>> No.9773378

>>9773365
I do not feel the need. Maybe later.

>> No.9773386

>>9773378
but you could buy even more figmas if you had a source of income

think of the horse ejaculate related possibilities

>> No.9773390

>>9773386
But I do not like horses. Please take this conversation to /mlp/ or some other degenerate board.

>> No.9773397

>>9773335

>since they stress so much about being lonely

Shut-ins and NEETs shouldn't feel lonely though.

If they feel lonely then they should be socializing, but I can't imagine there's anyone out there who is retarded enough to not understand that loneliness means you need to talk to people.

There should be no shut-ins who feel loneliness. It makes no sense. Obviously they need to go out, but it doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Fear is no excuse in the modern world, I can name multiple drugs off the top of my head that eliminate the ability to feel fear or anxiety.

>> No.9773418

When my Parents die I will get $400,000, plus whatever I am getting after we sell off all the land my family owns.

My grandparents are have millions of dollars in savings after selling my great grandmother's farm and property.

Also I am one of 6 children in the family, also the oldest so I should be set for a pretty long time.

>> No.9773422

>>9773418
About half of that will be eaten by taxes, just a headsup.

>> No.9773429

>>9773422
I'm fully aware and already took that off what I "should be getting" which is like 1/3-half I think.

>> No.9773450

>>9773422
I thought inheritance was only taxed if it was a huge amount.

>> No.9773564

smelly NEET pussy

>> No.9773570

>>9773564
woah dude I was just about to post this
get out of my head man xD

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>>9773570

>> No.9773630

>>9773450
Isn't any sort of income taxed?

>> No.9773636

>>9773630
I don't think inheritance is income. That's like considering birthday money income.

>> No.9773759 [DELETED] 

>>9773630
Income has a lot of exemptions and is barely taxed because that's how a lot of rich people get their money and they rewrote the laws so they wouldn't have to pay taxes.

It was taxed at a much higher rate just a few decades ago.

Ironically income from a regular job is taxed the highest out of any other form of income (something like 33% on average).

Not that I'm one of those political people with a strong opinion on the matter but it is one of those things you'd have to be blind to not see.

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>>9773630
Inheritance has a lot of exemptions and is barely taxed because that's how a lot of rich people get their money and they rewrote the laws so they wouldn't have to pay taxes.

It was taxed at a much higher rate just a couple decades ago.

Ironically income from a regular job is taxed the highest out of any other form of income (something like 33% on average).

Not that I'm one of those political people with a strong opinion on the matter but it is one of those things you'd have to be blind to not see.

>> No.9773889

>>9773777
Wow this is awesome for me then!

>> No.9774021

what's the easiest mental thing to get SSI for anyway

>> No.9774024

I'm probably fine for a long, long time given I'll be inheriting not a lot, but a fair bit of money once my parents and other assorted relatives die.

My biggest concern, really, is healthcare unless I can get on disability.

>> No.9774030

>>9774021
just guessing, but some variation of schizophrenia or autism, probably.

>> No.9774044

>>9774030
shit. suicidal depression, major anxiety, GID, but no schizo.

although i might be autistic, i can prove it with shit i built in minecraft GOD DAMN

>> No.9774051

>>9774044
>i can prove it with shit i built in minecraft GOD DAMN

/r/ screnshoots

>> No.9774076

>>9774044
you can still get on SSI with those.

question for dudes on SSI or have gone through the process for it:
I've only had one job that was taxed before and that was practically a decade ago. would I still be eligible despite not having the required number of social security credits or however it works? or is that stuff determined on a state-by-state basis?

>> No.9774077

I think I'll be okay. I'm an only child and my parents are pretty wealthy so once they die I'll inherit everything they own. I'm pretty sure I'll never have to work a single day in my life. If there are any cute feminine looking neets out here, who want to live rent-free, you can come live with me when that happens because I would like a personal maid :3

>> No.9774084

>>9774076
>SSI stands for Supplemental Security Income. It’s a federal income supplement program funded by general tax revenues – not Social Security taxes. It’s designed to help people who are elderly, blind, or have a disability (as defined by SSA, but we will get to that later), and who also have very limited or no income or assets. It provides cash assistance to meet very basic needs for food and shelter. Even if you have never worked or paid Social Security taxes, you may be eligible for SSI. But remember that one of the requirements for SSI is that you have very limited or no income, and few financial assets or resources.

Only try to get it if you're really struggling, though. Don't go for it just because free money

>> No.9774095 [DELETED] 

>>9774084
thanks. that answers all my questions, but where are you pulling that quote from?

>> No.9774112

I thought I was going to die for awhile there because my chest was hurting every day.
I finally decided it wasn't time to die yet and started exercising in my room for an hour a day. Been at it for 3 weeks and feeling great.

>> No.9774133

>>9774112
What kind of exercise?

>> No.9774142

How bad would anxiety/depression need to be to get SSI for it?

>> No.9774144

>>9774133
Step aerobics, kind of girly, but it's the only decent cardiovascular exercise that can be done indoors without equipment. I put a show or something on the TV that's about an hour long and exercise through it. It's pretty fun and I don't feel like my heart is going to explode when I wake up anymore.

>> No.9774146

>>9774142
Bad enough where you're unable to visit the SSI office.

>> No.9774148

>>9774142

Crippling; to the point where you can't even hold a conversation without mentioning how sad you are, how everything in life is against you, and how nobody loves you.

>> No.9774155

>>9774084
let me phrase my question in another way: if i have worked before, and that work was taxed for social security, but that work did not last for a long enough period for me to qualify for any social security credits, am I still considered as someone that has worked before?

>> No.9774168

23 and I already feel like dying.

>> No.9774175

>>9774148
>>9774146
So anxiety makes my life suck, but not quite enough as to make any use of it.
Shit.

>> No.9774195

>>9774148
so what, how do I prove that, do i have to go to a psych? oh god what even

its like, my parents don't give a fuck about me and dont want to waste money sending me to a shrink but at the same time i cant send myself because im fucking terrified but i also know i need the money because otherwise theyre gonna kick me out and fuck all this red tape just let me live at the cost of tax dollars already america

>> No.9774205

>>9773278
>>9773315
>>9773335
>>9773397

People living alone and with no friends have a significantly increased risk of dying of an in house accident, illness, malnutrition, or substance abuse since no one is ever calling or visiting them to see if they're doing all right. Usually associated with old people breaking bones and having strokes, but it applies.

People with stress have increased problems with all kinds of shit, but they stress is usually work related. Out of all the problems a shut-in would have, the stress of having no social connections should be the least of their worries, if one at all.

>> No.9774296

>>9774076
FYI it's pretty hard to get SSI. They default deny all applicants and you have to get a bunch of letters from relatives, doctors, and a bunch of other stuff for a review process, which is usually denied the first time. But a lot of people have success with the second appeal.

>> No.9774298

>>9774175
>not quite enough as to make any use of it.
Not true, I'm on SSI for anxiety and depression.

>> No.9774325

>>9774195

That doesn't sound crippling enough, private spineless. Sound off like you're in despair and don't know what to do, you hopeless maggot!

>> No.9774347

>>9773187
No, she's fermenting her sweaty neet pussy under the heat lamp.

>> No.9774457

I'm a 26 year old NEET living with my girlfriend...I exercise and eat a healthy diet, so I think I'll live just as long as anybody else who does the same.

>> No.9774464

>>9774457
>I'm a 26 year old NEET living with my girlfriend

>tfw you'll never bee a NEET living with a GF who supports you :(

>> No.9774476

>>9774457
Normal go home

>> No.9774492

>>9774476

And what do you suppose makes me a normal?

>> No.9774497

>>9774492
Girlfriend.

>> No.9774502

>>9774492
>Girlfriend

>> No.9774516

>>9774492
Unless your girlfriend is some fujioshi landwhale, it should be pretty fucking obvious what makes you a normal.

>> No.9774527

>>9774497
>>9774502

I'm not going to get into my life story or anything...So I'll just say that my having a girlfriend doesn't make me a normal and leave it at that.

>> No.9774534

>>9774516

And what else do you know about me that has led you to this conclusion?

>> No.9774548

>>9774492
Having a girlfriend is the way of a normal. I don't care if you're a NEET, you're a normal. Get away, scum.

>> No.9774563

>>9774548

And you wouldn't have a girlfriend given the opportunity? You'd be lying if you said you wouldn't.

>> No.9774566

>>9774563
I would not. I greatly cherish my time alone.

>> No.9774584

>>9774563

Not under any circumstances would I want a girlfriend unless she can support me, give me money, house for me, and take care of me like my mother. I am NOT having sex with her.

>> No.9774579

>>9774566

I greatly cherish my time alone as well...Having a girlfriend doesn't change that. I have more than enough time to myself to pursue my own hobbies and interests, and lucky for me I have somebody who supports me in doing so.

>> No.9774587

>>9774584

Finally, somebody who gets it.

>> No.9774601

What's all this talk about loneliness?

I don't really talk to people face to face in person, but I talk to people via IM on a daily basis, and I post on /jp/. That's enough social interaction to me, to be honest.

>> No.9774620

>>9774601

My girlfriend and the one internet friend I have are the only people I talk to aside from immediate family, and that's all I really need.

>> No.9774629

>>9774620
You're talking with strangers on /jp/. How about you stop posting forever?

>> No.9774638

>>9774629

How about you go get castrated?

>> No.9774666

>>9774584
You might be homosexual.

Also you guys are being retarded.

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9774673

So how many of you are NEETs because of convenience/laziness, and how many of you are NEETs because of an actual disability?

Just wondering. It's not all that satisfying to be a NEET, it's kind of depressing actually.

>> No.9774685

>>9774673
maybe you should go back to whatever shit board you frequent.

>> No.9774688

>>9774673
> It's not all that satisfying to be a NEET, it's kind of depressing actually.

falseNEET get out KUDASAI

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>>9774673
I have narcissistic personality disorder.

>> No.9774695

>>9774579
>Having a girlfriend doesn't change that.

Of course it does. You're constantly subject to being dragged into conversations, or to have her come over, or her wanting you to go over there, ect.

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>>9774673
I have don't give a fuck disorder.

>> No.9774700

>>9774673

Both.

If you're depressed with being a NEET, you should stop it and get off your ass and do something about it. Maybe having tons of free time and enjoying solitude just isn't for you.

>> No.9774715

>>9774695

That doesn't describe my relationship at all.

>> No.9774743

>>9773273
>\jp\

>> No.9774749
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It's impossible for a /jp/ poster to die because they will live on in each of our hearts.

>> No.9774752

>>9774749
fuck you

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>>9774752
Please don't be rude to my friend.

Thanks.

>> No.9774786

>>9773178

Rather short...

Between the anxiety and depression... suicide is bound to catch up eventually.

>> No.9774806

what about dependent personality disorder? does that count? :(

>> No.9774862

>>9774806
no betas allowed on /jp/

>> No.9774876

My family has been living on interest for the last ten years or so. I assumed we were somewhat poor because of how tight my parents are with money. I should have suspected something since I've never seen anyone in this house work.

I wonder if I'll inherit anything.

>> No.9774877 [DELETED] 

>>9774806
>Sitting at home
>Fapping to some hot fucking ebony porn
>you make a stupid comment
>grab my shot gun
>kill you in the fucking head
>have sex with my wife and gf
>post on here
>smoke weed

Fuck off /jp/ virg

>> No.9774905

can some explain the "g" on anzuchang?

>> No.9774985

do any of you actually know any old NEETs? my uncle was a NEET up until he was like 60 and that's like the only one i've ever personally seen who's made it past 30

>> No.9775007

If you just include health issues it should be not even ten years less than the average citizen, that would make almost 70 years.
If you include that NEETS eventually change their lifes or commit suicide at one point, than it should dwindle down to about 45 years.

>> No.9775026

>Assuming their parents allow the NEET to live with them and don't kick him out.
TRUUneet doesn't live with her parents!

>> No.9775034

>>9775026
Shut up with that already.

>> No.9776335

Do any of you deal with commitment issues? It feels like I can't commit to anything, especially relationships. I joined a forum two years ago (so I could play the browser game it was associated with), and a few ago months I grew tired of it and the "friends" I somehow managed to make. I just sort of lost interest (I kind of miss collecting all those sprites, though. It fueled my autism quite nicely). The odd thing is this has happened a bunch of times before. Every time I sign up for something I just get tired of it very quickly, much sooner than others it appears. And I get tired of people very quickly, too. I don't understand how people can log on to an IM service, for example, everyday for years and years.

>> No.9776357

>>9776335
Yes. The only thing I've been constant with in the past years is visiting 4chan.

>> No.9776386

Maybe I'm just getting older, or maybe I'm just getting more sickly, but I've noticed that my vision has gotten far worse than it was a year ago. When I go to the store I can't read the aisle indicators so I don't know what's in an aisle before I get really close to it.

My asthma and eczema are getting worse too. In the past the eczema was limited to my ankles, but now it's on the tops of my feet and in the crooks of my elbows. Normally during the summer my asthma is at its weakest, but it seems like it's as bad as it is during the winter. I wonder what the actual winter will be like.

I've noticed myself getting more and more bonier. At first it was my arms, and that was fine with me. Then it was my legs, and that was fine too. Now my ribs are becoming more apparent and I just can't gain weight and it's worrying me a bit. I've been feeling really cold and tired these past few days too.

At least I don't get dull chest pains anymore. The worst I get now is a sharp, quick pain, almost like I've been stabbed. I've been getting those since I was a child so I don't think they're anything bad.

I wonder when and if I'll die from some medical issue. Most "natural" deaths are more or less complications of medical issues, right? When I think of an unnatural death things like car accidents or other accidents come to mind, but I don't think those will kill me.

>> No.9776417

>>9776386
You need to take care of the asthma. I'm 21 and My asthma recently got absolutely awful for no reason, and I'm not really a NEET (I'm in education/work at my uni).

As for the NEET stuff. Honestly, I look sort of "normal", but really, people don't really give a shit in the real world. They couldn't give less of a fuck if you're a fatass, a toothpick, long hair, short hair, whatever. Most of them have their own agenda and only get pissed off if you're somehow in their way. Most people I know are incredibly nice to me because I work for IT so they know I can solve their problems, and usually anyone can get into that sort of position with people if they have something to offer. and that's just everyday nonsense.

NEET lifestyle is nice, personally, but if i didn't have uni for 7 months out of the year I'd probably regret it for the rest of my life. It's kind of like validation for the summer i spend sitting on my ass doing nothing. The best part? I'm going into education and have a job lined up, so I'm going to get to do it for the rest of my fucking life.

Don't let social anxiety or highschool trauma affect you decisions about your future. If you NEET, try at least to get education and stay healthy. If you do it right you only spend like 3 hours a day max not being a blob of crap.

However, what I will say is that my mom has been especially helpful to my lifestyle. She doesn't care what I do as long as I secure my future.

I guess what I'm saying is this; living as close to the NEET lifestyle as possible, without actually being complete NEET is the best way to live life the way you want it for as long as humanly possible. Just my opinion anyway.

>> No.9776423

>>9776386
Oh and I meant to mention something about your asthma. I don't know how old you are, but it actually might creep up quite quickly and cause you an asthma attack. If your asthma gets worse as you age, like mine did, and you don't have meds, it's really scary. It'll kill you by the time you're 24.

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>>9774673
I'm trying to live like an urban Thoreau.

>> No.9776463

>>9776451
I actually went to Amherst earlier this year, visited Thoreau's abode, Emily Dickinson's home, and a few other places. I discovered his way of living only works if you really, really enjoy every single aspect about the way in which you live.

>> No.9776497

I started exercising 2 weeks ago. Started out with 10 minutes a day, now I'm almost at 30 minutes (probably won't exceed this). Already I slightly feel better in general. Don't know if this is physical or just mental.

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>>9776497
your ten minutes of fap doesn't count.

>> No.9776699

Has anyone taken Prozac for their social anxiety before? How long is this shit going to take to kick in?

>> No.9776872

I can feel two distinct, hard lumps under the skin of my stomach. They don't hurt yet, so I don't know what they are. Could be harmless hernias, could be benign tumors, could be something worse. Not going to a doctor, I am just too scared of people right now. That's hikki self-preservation for you.

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>>9774638
>>9774579
>>9774563
>>9774666
>>>/v/
>>>/b/
>>>/soc/
>>>/reddit/

>> No.9777254

>>9776872
its cancer

>> No.9777280

>>9777238

Why aren't you redirecting to /a/? Are you a dirty cross-boarder from there?

>> No.9777292

>>9774905
I don't think there's any meaning to it, it's just something that guy who likes talking about how sweaty and smelly her NEETy pussy is made up.

>> No.9777296

>>9777292
Leave, secondary.

>> No.9777364

I don't know. I'm assuming that I'm not going to die anytime soon, or at least not due to how I choose to live my life. I usually eat the right things and whatnot. If I am going to die early, it will probably be from something outside of my control, like cancer.

>> No.9777384

>>9777238
Samefag that was arguing with the other faggot earlier.

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>>9776699
I tried Prozac out once before, but only for about a week and a half. It made me extremely apathetic and caused me to be awfully sick for the period of time I was on it.

>> No.9777414

>>9777406
When I see the word "prozac" I think of delicious pudding and ice cream.

>> No.9777451

>>9777414
Why does it make you think of that?

>> No.9777465

>>9777451
I don't know. I have a feeling there's an early episode of the Simpsons where Homer talks about prozac while eating some kind of pudding. This was before I knew was prozac was.

>> No.9777513

>>9776699
It will take forever to kick in. And I mean literally forever. As in, it's not going to kick in. SSRIs are pretty goddamn sucky for depression, and complete shit for anxiety. Unless your problem is occasional, light ennui, i.e. normal life, they do barely anything noticeable.
In terms of pharmacodynamics, it takes a little over a month for any effects to kick in, so you should give it the benefit of the doubt until around then. I'm a little biased because my psychiatrist made me try out five fucking SSRIs before she then decided that medications just couldn't do anything for me. Woman, it's a single class of medications. What would it take for your to try something different instead of trying more of the same fucking thing?

>> No.9777534

>>9777513
SSRIs also kill any ability to orgasm you may have, and they slow your metabolism to a crawl.

>> No.9777532

>>9777513

>it takes a little over a month for any effects to kick in

Many effects kick in day one. They just tell you certain effects (the so called "therapeutic" ones) take weeks to build up and kick in.

I know it can absolutely destroy someones libido the very first day they take it.

>> No.9777541

If I am chemically castrated, will I stop feeling romantic things as well as sexual things?

>> No.9777554

>>9777532
I guess I assumed that the asker was already taking said medication, and thus was asking when the supposed therapeutic effects would become noticeable, not when the nausea and shit started, which would become quickly known without our help.

>> No.9777588

>>9777534
If they also did what they were supposed to, I'd be easily able to overlook that. The main problem, as far as I'm concerned, is that they don't.

>> No.9778359

I was just an average fag in middle school, started to watch anime in 7th grade and got unrealistic expectations. Highschool wasn't like I thought it would be and I became depressed. Never made many friends until junior and senior year in highschool. Now I'm in a large university and haven't made a single friend, I just talk to the few people who go here from my highschool. It feels pretty bad, maybe I'll make a friend some day. Really hard to do it when I'm a commuter, because I live so close I'm not going to pay outrageous room and board fees.

Also having trouble deciding what to do. I'm a math major and don't think I'll stay on it, but I'm interested in too many things to decide what to change into.

What should I do /jp/, I can't go NEET because I need to start supporting my family but I feel bad all the time.

>> No.9778372 [DELETED] 

>>9778359
You don't sound egotistical enough to be a NEET. Worrying about supporting your family? Pffthaha, you'll never be a NEET at this rate. NEET are selfish leeches who couldn't care less about the lives of others. If you can't reach this level of badassery, you might as well give up, nerd.

>> No.9778388

>>9778359
kill yourself fag

>> No.9778406

>>9778359
kill yourself

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>>9773178
Fooooor-EVER!

>> No.9778426

>>9778418
>>>/mlp/

>> No.9778445
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I hate that the NEET lifestyle has become associated with depression, apathy, feelings of boredom, and a whole bunch of stupid shit that these /r9k/ rejects brought over.

Fuck off, you weak willed pussies. If you don't like your life then do something about it and stop shitting all over the rest of us with your suicide threads and whining about your depression.

You have the internet right here. What is wrong with you? It's a fountain a knowledge and fun. You can learn whatever you want, download whatever you want. Want to learn how to make music? Want to learn a language? Want to learn how to make a game? Want to learn an art skill? Do you want to consume basically any form of entertainment for free? It's all right there.

Jesus christ, some of you are pathetic. It is infuriating to hear this shit every single day on /jp/. Wasting away their lives, not even attempting to do what they want, and then calling themselves NEETs and giving a bad reputation to everyone else.

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>>9778445
yeah seriously. if you want to cry about not having a qt otaku gf just go post in /soc/ instead of shitting up /jp/ NEET threads.

can't even take it easy in fucking NEET threads because of these lonely school kids.

>> No.9778452

>>9778445
Have you learned any of those things?

>> No.9778456

>>9778445
That's how it's always been.

That's why people begin living like this in the first place.

>> No.9778464

>>9778452

Yes, it's the whole reason I'm a NEET. What the hell are you doing all day if you're not having fun and doing the things that you want to do?

My only worry in life is that I'll die before I get a chance to learn all of the things I want to learn and consume all of the entertainment that I want to consume.

>> No.9778462

>>9778452
there are people who are happy doing things they enjoy even if they aren't productive. hope this helps dumbass.

>> No.9778467

>>9778462
I just find it funny that people mention that as if people who aren't NEETs don't have access to those things
It's not like you spend the entire day on them

>> No.9778468

>>9778464
>What the hell are you doing all day

No idea. I just kinda idle by.

>> No.9778470

>>9778445
You have internet even when you are not a NEET.

NEET life is all about the struggle of maintaining full access to the internet without having to work. It can be rough when your mom tells you off for being lazy.

>> No.9778477

>>9778454
>>9778445

There are no prerequisites towards posting in a thread.

>> No.9778480

>>9778464
Why don't you tell him what he's doing, nerd. After all, you're here with him, on /jp/, just reading and making posts. Probably refreshing constantly. I don't find that particularly exciting, myself. Maybe you disagree.

>> No.9778485

>>9778359
Become a programmer. Also kill yourself.

>> No.9778487

>>9778477
- typical retarded /v/ermin, 2012

>> No.9778489

I enjoy the outdoors but not so much the people, so I stay indoors whenever possible. I don't associate with anyone else outside of immediate family, with perhaps some exceptions. So no job, no schooling, ect.

I do like going out late at night, like past midnight when the shops are closed and the streets are empty. I can lay down in the middle of the street, or sneak up to the roof of a building or car park, look off into the horizon and pretend that I am the only person in the world.
The only thing that would break this illusion is perhaps the occasional sound of cars traveling along the highway in the distance. Other then that, I could believe it entirely.

Is that NEET like?

>> No.9778493

>>9778487
I'm not seeing why you needed to quote me to make such a statement, Anonymous.

Care to explain yourself?

>> No.9778498

>>9778489
If you aren't in education, training or employment, then you are a NEET. So that's NEET. But it would be disputed as to whether you are a truNEET or a falsNEET. Some factions[1] hold that truNEETs are necessarily hikis. While others[6] believe that a lack of social contact in hikikomori is the essence, and therefore the physical confinement is not essential.

>> No.9778503

>>9778456

>That's why people begin living like this in the first place.

This right here is the whole problem. This shouldn't be the reason that people live like this.

Living as a NEET should be a conscious decision that you make because you want to live like this. You should live how you want to live. No one should settle for anything and they certainly shouldn't give up to the point that they desperately try to find other losers to identify with. Those NEET/hikki threads where no talks about anything but depression for example.

What is the fucking point of this misery circlejerk? They're not trying to improve themselves, they're not trying to get themselves to a point in their life where they can be happy, they're just wallowing in self-pity and depression like dying rats. They have no fight in them at all, it's disgusting to see someone just roll over and die because they're too scared or too lazy to do what it takes to be happier. It's even worse when I have to see them every single day on /jp/. At least have the decency to kill yourselves, you're like homeless people breaking into my house and sleeping on the floor all day.

>> No.9778506

>>9778498
Woah dude how did you go from reference [1] to [6] in two sentences

>> No.9778507

>>9778503
>At least have the decency to kill yourselves,

That is not at all decent.

>> No.9778508

>>9778503
Not everyone is a confident closeted normalfag capable of living however they want like yourself, anon.

>> No.9778516

>>9778480

>I don't find that particularly exciting, myself. Maybe you disagree.

Of course I disagree. I enjoy posting on /jp/, especially when there are good threads.

If you don't find it enjoyable to be here then why are you here? It makes no sense at all. Why would you do something that you don't want to do?

It's like all of you have just lost your minds.

>> No.9778520

>>9778503
It is a societal norm to think people that kill themselves as selfish. It seems to be looked down upon as a bad thing to do.
I don't particularly understand why. Maybe it's to do with the investment of time and effort that's required to craft a person.

>> No.9778526

>>9778520
People don't have the right to take lives.

They have the power to, yes. That doesn't mean you should.

>> No.9778527

>>9778498
Well if the latter part is true then I can say that I am fairly happy being a NEET. My life is not full of joy, and I'm not "dancing on rainbows" happy, namely cause I'm not on drugs. There are points when I get depressed and sad over things but I imagine that happens to everyone regardless of how they live.

I do enjoy having all the free time to myself, doing what I want, when I want, having little to no responsibility. One of my biggest fears is that I'll have to start supporting myself by getting a job, in fact it is often that thought that makes me depressed.
Other then that though, I am grateful for all the time I have to do the things I want, even if it benefits no one but myself. I'd pick "time" over wealth, status and power any day. Health is a close second however.

So +1 happy(somewhat) NEET here.

>> No.9778529

>>9778520
Because after you are dead you no longer give a fuck, just you weren't giving any fucks before you were born.

But the people around you have to clean the shit after your death, sometimes literally. It's very hard to do clean break, especially with your parents. Can you put yourself in their place on imagine how they would feel and all the bullshit they would have to deal with?

>> No.9778535

>>9778527
I was a lot more depressed when working than I have EVER been as a NEET.

>> No.9778537

>>9778529
Not as much bullshit as one puts up with in their entire lifetime, to be sure.

There's no reason to be thankful for your parents for creating you. Bringing new life into the world is selfish.

>> No.9778538

>>9778508

So you just do nothing at all, don't even attempt to face your problems, and just linger here and wait to die?

If you just want to die then why don't you just finish yourself off early then? What reason do you have to continue living if you feel depressed and won't even try to improve yourself?

Hell, you don't even have to be strong and do any actual work to improve yourself in today's world. Just take drugs and get your confidence from that. It's pathetic, but at least it will get you off /jp/ and you can go get a girlfriend or whatever you wanted to do.

>> No.9778542

Even in the person is a trueNEET at heart he can still be depressed and anxious because of the lack of financial security. It's very hard to take it easy when you have no idea when you might go homeless.

>> No.9778547

>>9778526
Untrue, we kill to survive, law of nature. Some might consider that human lives are more valuable then the lives of other creatures on earth, but I don't see it that way.
In fact the only logical reason I can think of ATM that would make a human life more valuable is as >>9778520 said, the amount of time and resources invested into a person.

So we do have a right to take lives, it's necessary for our species in order to survive has been for thousand of years.

>> No.9778548

>>9778537
>Bringing new life into the world is selfish.

It isn't at all, actually. There is that whole survival of the species thing, y'know.

>> No.9778549

>>9778527
>One of my biggest fears is that I'll have to start supporting myself by getting a job
This is how I am as well. It's a constant threat looming over me. Many others here seem to have a rather secure NEET support net, I don't. My parents are both poor and they don't really support me as much as they do simply let me live in their house. I was a NEET for many years, but then I worked, and now I am living off the money left over from that. But it can't last more than another 6 months at most.

>> No.9778553

>>9778535
I know, that's what I'm afraid of and that is what makes me depressed. Wish that was not something I had to worry about.

>> No.9778574

>>9778542

>It's very hard to take it easy when you have no idea when you might go homeless.

That's understandable, but what's the point of being depressed or anxious? It doesn't do anything helpful.

You start making moves to either avoid or lessen the potential damage. I was in the same position that you were several years ago, but I started making moves to ensure that I could continue being a NEET. I trained myself to fake schizophrenia so I could get on SSI and that was good enough for me since now I have a source of income, my parents are still alive so this money can be saved, and no more financial worries.

If SSI isn't an option then you can mitigate the damage. Spend your time learning things now so you won't have to get a real job later. It's what the internet is for. Learn languages, learn skills, learn anything which can be used to freelance on the internet and make money without needing to get a real job and wasting away half your life in a warehouse or cubicle.

>> No.9778579

>>9778574
>If SSI isn't an option then you can mitigate the damage. Spend your time learning things now so you won't have to get a real job later. It's what the internet is for. Learn languages, learn skills, learn anything which can be used to freelance on the internet and make money without needing to get a real job and wasting away half your life in a warehouse or cubicle.
If you accept and work towards that, you are already plunging yourself into the despair. That's not NEET.

>> No.9778583

>>9778579
No kidding.

What happened to the whole "do things you enjoy" spiel?

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>>9774749

Mediator, you certainly will live on in my heart forever.

>> No.9778603

>>9778579

It's not ideal, but it's realistic. You can't live without money.

Option A: Be forced into getting a real job, throw away half your life in this job, be surrounded by obnoxious assholes nearly every single day for the rest of your life until you die.
Option B: Learn something you at least slightly enjoy that you can use to make money through the internet. Spend a small fraction of your day doing this, all while in the comfort of your home and in your pajamas. No real socialization required, simple work, short do-it-whenever-you-want hours, don't even have to go outside.

It's not ideal because obviously no one wants to do any form of work, but being a long-term NEET is based around either conning the government or being lucky enough to have parents who will support you and then living off their life insurance when they die.

If you can't do either then you have to either work or kill yourself, but if you take a little bit of your day while you still have the unlimited free time of a NEET and dedicate that to learning a skill that you enjoy then you can make working no where near as horrifying as it is for most people since you can still be a NEET for the majority of the day and you won't have to leave the house.

>> No.9778608

>>9778603
But being a NEET like myself, that little bit of time is enough to send my stress levels shooting up. Not to mention the amount of time I'd have to spend learning a skill that I can use for that purpose, assuming I can even find one.

It's silly I know, but to me I don't really see it as much better. It's like two kinds of extremes

>> No.9778611

>>9778603
The competition is too damn high for B. Its nowhere near small fraction of day.

>> No.9778636

>>9778611
depends where you live. my friend who is a total dork that happens to know some basic programming is pulling crazy money just doing random shit. if you live in the US though its probably pretty unrealistic to get work as a freelancer in stuff like programming.

>> No.9778641

>>9778608

How much time do you think you have until you're kicked? Is there any reason to believe that you will be kicked out within a few months?

How much time you have to spend is based around how much time you left, so if you procrastinate then that means you might have to work more. If you have another year or two then you could easily get by with just studying for just 2-3 hours a day, you probably spend more than that each day feeling depressed or thinking about financial worries, so at least you can use that time productively now.

If you prefer Option A though then just let your depression and anxiety go away and enjoy the time you have since there's absolutely no point in being anxious about something you can't change.

>>9778611

It's not that bad in my experience. What kind of work were you doing? I did a fair bit of translation work on freelancing sites and I didn't make a lot of money, but I made about as much as I currently get each month on SSI and I barely did much work at all.

If you're a NEET then you probably know how to live simply. You can live off a lot less than most people need. I know that I only need basic food to survive, shelter, and a computer to be happy. Everything else is non-essential to me, so I can happily survive off a lot less money than most people would be able to.

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>>9777513
Some SSRIs are absorbed differently by different people. Prozac in particular either wont get absorbed in the gut or pass the blood-brain barrier, except in small amounts, in like 1/4 of people. Lexapro which is almost identical to prozac much more readily gets absorbed by people who don't absorb prozac.

Also some SSRIs are short acting, others long acting etc. I agree though I had the same problem with a psych like 2 years ago. Tried at least 4 or 5 different SSRIs. The only thing that ever helped was beta blockers which I had to practically beg to get. But god damn it do beta blockers work, especially long term. They re-wire your mental circuitry after a while and you just stop being anxious. There are studies which show this effect (in some people anyway, something about an overactive sympathetic nervous system) and it continues even after you stop taking the drug.

>> No.9778668

I think the extreme laziness and lack of motivation that some of the people in these threads exhibit may be a disorder, like depression or social anxiety. It's like a light variation/combination of those two things without the sadness and self-hatred.

>> No.9778673

>>9778574
>schizophrenia
>SSI

Heh. In my country I see every day people in wheelchairs with both legs missing, begging for money. Their disability payments barely cover rent, food is out of the question.

>> No.9778679

Why did this thread get flooded with annoying self-help shit?

>> No.9778683

>>9778679

Reading about self-pity is more annoying than reading about self-help.

>> No.9778686

>>9778574
You sound like a normalfag who just decided to be NEET. There's nothing wrong with that but not all of us are healthy, mentally or otherwise.

I agree with your point about not being depressive all the time (which I personally avoid as well) but I think you're overestimating most people on this board.

>> No.9778687

>>9778679
Oh no, a shitty /r9k/ thread became a shitty /adv/ thread. Better call the maid.

>> No.9778690

>>9778652
Escitalopram isn't "nearly identical" to fluoxetine. I'm not sure where you got that idea. Also, different SSRIs don't have different effects to the extents that psychiatrist would like you to think. There are marginally differing affinities for different neurotransmitters, but by far the largest differences are in their side effect profiles. Choosing an SSRI is essentially a process of singling out which one fucks you up the least.

>> No.9778692

>>9778641
>How much time do you think you have until you're kicked?

Honestly I have no idea, it doesn't seem like something that is going to happen any time soon but I'm not 100%. Also I'm not depressed every day, it happens maybe once every few months and even then maybe for a day, sometimes less. Thinking about it causes mild anxiety attacks but not full blown depression.

I've looked into making money online but many of those things either A. Require too much work or B. Are things I consider underhanded/wrong/stupid/ect. and don't want to get involved with.
Basically I would just like to have fun, my ideal would be being able to live on my own terms without people having expectations of me and me having to fulfill those expectations for a paycheck.
Living as a hermit somewhere has actually been a dream of mine, only problem would be the lack of internet.

>> No.9778696

>That's understandable, but what's the point of being depressed or anxious? It doesn't do anything helpful.
Whadda you know, you're right! I guess I'll just stop getting nervous every time I leave my room. Who knew that it was so simple all along?

>> No.9778698

>>9778603
>No real socialization required, simple work, short do-it-whenever-you-want hours, don't even have to go outside.

I somehow managed to acquire half-decent web programming skills. Now if anyone would be so kind to point me to this dream job thing. Freelance websites are filled with 3rd world country residents willing to drink your piss and eat your shit for $10. I couldn't possibly compete with that.

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When I get depressed I just stop being depressed and become awesome instead. If I can do it anyone can.

>> No.9778705

>>9778698
There is also nothing simple or easy about these jobs. You would still have to deal with the clients and their bullshit.

>> No.9778710

>>9778692

Have you thought about translation?

You kill two birds with one stone since you can pick a language that has some media that you want to consume and then make some money on the side.

Just try not to pick a language that Indians might know. They drive the price of freelance work down to pennies.

>> No.9778711

>>9778698
This is what I meant by competition in >>9778611 and I don't really know any other means of freelancing.

>> No.9778720

>>9778710
Well, other than English I know my native language (Russian) but still I believe there are tons of people who do that. Also, translation needs writing skills, sometimes rather decent, and imagination.

>> No.9778726

>>9778611
In my opinion it depends on how rare the skill is. like the other anon said I think learning languages is the right idea, Asian languages like Chinese and Japanese are listed as some of the most difficult languages to learn in the world for native English/latin langs speakers. That's gotta be a rare skill and a fluent person should be able to make money easily as a translator.

>> No.9778734

>>9778710
I've done translating before, not online tho. I don't know if doing it online would be any different but the people who I translated for before could be quite the pain up my rear.
I generally don't mix well with people who can't just shut up and take what I give and assume just cause I work for them they have some sort of dominion over me.

When I was in high school I thought about writing books for a living, seemed like the ideal. Sadly it never panned out, so eh.

>> No.9778735

>>9778701
BTW i'm a guy

>> No.9778746

>>9778720
>>>/2ch.ru/

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>>9778746

>> No.9778753

>>9778748
Slavs please go.

>> No.9778760

>>9778734

>I don't know if doing it online would be any different

In my experience there was basically no socialization at all. Just got some work from one of the listings on one of the freelancing sites, translated whatever they wanted me to translate, sent it back when I was finished a couple days later, and get paid. It was a couple hundred dollars for not that much work.

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9778762

School is out in the states, that's when this thread started getting shitty.

/jp/ is for fun NEETs, depressed retards who don't know how to have fun belong on /r9k/ and /v/.

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>>9778746
2ch.ru has been dead for about four years, I think.
RIP in pieces, sweet dvach.

>> No.9778776

>>9778762
There's no point to these threads other than discussing our apathy.

>> No.9778778

>>9778771
http://2ch.so/rf/

>> No.9778784

>>9778771
>>9778778
Okay, everyone calm down, I forgot that it's not welcome here to mention you're from ruboards. I'll take note on that.

>> No.9778785

Is the gud ol' uncle's guide for SSI still applicable?

>> No.9778787

I'm surprised there aren't more drug dealers on /jp/. It seems like the easiest NEET job since most of you are getting pills anyway.

You can flip one adderall prescription for $600 very easily. It's all as anonymous as possible since you're dealing drugs through the mail using silkroad so that eliminates the bother of talking to people and the extent of your labor is packaging pills when you get an order and then mailing them from some place that isn't your house.

>> No.9778782

>>9778776
Apathy =/= depression even then.

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>>9778778
Which part of the "2ch.ru" you don't understand?

>> No.9778806

>>9778787
I sold some crack and cocaine a couple of times. Wasn't nice.

>> No.9778839

>>9778806
I'm not that other guy, but for some reason I've always imagined that selling prescription pills is a bit more pleasant because it attracts a different crowd or something.

I'm probably wrong, though.

>> No.9778882

>>9778839
Where I live all the prescription pills being sold are sold by upper-middle class people or Doctors.
The people who buy them are just average joes for the most part.

I dunno where you live though so I can't really say.


My mom used to be addicted to prescription drugs and she was reffered to the doctor through the pastor at her church.

>> No.9778944

>>9778882
Yeah, I think the reason I get this feeling is because I once saw my near-60 year old grandmother sell some Vicodin. She had a prescription for it but it was too strong for her so she made a quick buck off it.

>> No.9779138

I'm of the camp where I enjoy being here and prefer it. But i still get depressive and sometime I really want to hug something warm.
I honestly have no idea why i get depressive anymore but i do.
the hugging part could easily be could easily be fixed by getting a daki/hugging pillow
or just waiting for huggable waifus or something

I hope the depressive parts go away soon. I may never get through my backlog if it doesn't

>> No.9779385

>>9778690
>Escitalopram isn't "nearly identical" to fluoxetine. I'm not sure where you got that idea.

>Also, different SSRIs don't have different effects to the extents that psychiatrist would like you to think.

You're contradicting yourself. What I meant is that they're similar, with the main difference being that some people don't absorb prozac (like 1/4 of people) and this is why lexapro is "more effective" in some people. Usually a psych will perscribe prozac first, and then lexapro if prozac doesn't work. It's not because they're radically different drugs -- They do mostly the same thing. Psychs will prescribe both because sometimes prozac (which is the cheaper drug) isn't metabolized/absorbed very well.

>> No.9779428

>>9779385
As to their similarity, I was speaking with respect to their chemical structures. In terms of their indications, I completely agree that they're nearly identical.
I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that different people metabolize these drugs differently. Your blood-brain barrier is exactly the same as mine. It's not about how your body processes the drug, it's about how your body otherwise responds to the drug and its metabolites.

>> No.9779453

>>9779428
Idk a couple years ago I was cycled through a bunch of these drugs. I think it was prozac <-> lexapro that were supposed to be almost identical, but some percentage of people don't absorb one or the other (in the gut I guess). Lexapro, the brand name super expensive drug, only has a benefit over the other in that percentage of people.

>> No.9779481

4 years doing nothing cept jacking off and playing video games.
Yesterday I was bored so I tried to learn some Japanese. Now I have nearly all of the hiragana down. it's not easy but definitely not as a hard as I expected it to be.
If I had started back in 2008, studying 1 kanji a day, I would know over 1000 kanji now. I'd probably be able to play some untranslated games as well.
Why am I so retarded? I shouldn't have put it off for so long.

4 years wasted. Anyone else felt the same?

>> No.9779501

>>9779453
It sounds to me much more like you're comparing Celexa and Lexapro. Lexapro is specifically the primary active isomer in Celexa. If you don't have any bad side effects from the inactive components in Celexa, then Lexapro won't do anything different for you, but if you do, then you could notice a significant improvement.
Even then, though, it has nothing to do with how your body processes them. It's about, as I said earlier the side effect profile and, very occasionally, the differences in the different SSRIs' binding affinities.

>> No.9779576

>>9779481

>Anyone else felt the same?

A little, but not too much. I'm doing it now, so that's better than me realizing this next year.

>> No.9779735

god damn this thread is shit

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>>9777465
I know what you mean. I can vaguely remember seeing prozac (or some other pills) mixed in with some rubbery gooey pudding stuff from one of the older episodes. I can't seem to find a screenshot though, which isn't particularly suprising I guess.

>> No.9783060

>>9780219
>>9777465

Alright retards it was fucking ice cream not pudding.


Jesus everyone on /jp/ is so dumb

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