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NEETs, I understand you. I like you. I am one of you. But unlike many of you, I've spent enormous amounts of my time learning about agriculture, handy work, and various other skills that could be useful in an off-grid living environment. Now I offer these skills to all of you. Would you let one of your own provide for your food, clothing and shelter indefinitely in exchange for chipping in to buy a plot of land?

You needn't lift a finger. I want to do the lifting for you. Unfortunately like many of you, my savings are sparse and such a NEET commune will only be possible if each of its members helps to pay for the property. Anyone interested?

>> No.9771311

I thought this was another thread about that suicide forest in Japan for a second.

>> No.9771321

I assume you not giving your place of residence means you're from the US, so even though I would very much like to, it's not viable for me to join this particular project. I wish you luck, though.

>> No.9771317

TLDR give me ur money lol

>> No.9771331

>>9771321
I'm in Canada. American NEETs need not be alienated from our happy little colony though. Relocating to Canada from the US is a relatively smooth process.

>> No.9771354

>>9771331
Only if you have a skill, I've looked. I don't think joining a hippy commune counts as having a job.

I'd love to do something like this temporarily though. I even have experience with farming from living in Arkansas.

>> No.9771362

>>9771331
Where in Canada? Are we going to be the creepy forest murderers in teen slasher films?

>> No.9771356

Only if I can be leader and wear a badass marshal's uniform. I also want to form a "security force" type of group, you know for safeguarding the safety of the commune and "re-educating" problem NEETs hehe.

>> No.9771358

I would love to, but where would I get money for chipping in?

>> No.9771360

>>9771331
More details, please. Why should I/we believe you?

>> No.9771366

1) I don't want to get killed
2) I don't want to get raped
3) Could you provide more details and concrete evidence?

>> No.9771367

>NEET commune

so...just a commune?

>> No.9771368

This reminds me of those /jp/ manor threads, almost.

An idea similar to yours has been posted time and time again on nearly every imageboard I've visited. Not that I think it's a bad idea (I would love to live in a house full of /jp/sies), but it never seems to get done because of general apathy. Why don't you give a few more details and we'll see how this goes.

>> No.9771371

Don't forget your Nikes guys.

>> No.9771377

>>9771368
Exactly my sentiments regarding this matter, but I was too apathetic to voice them.

Speaking of which, whatever happened with the /jp/ Mansion? Is it taboo to talk about or something, because no one gives me a straight answer. Must be confidential.

>> No.9771378

Where in Canada do you live, opee?

>> No.9771380

Will there be kool aid?

>> No.9771384

Can we grow drugs on the commune?

I would like to live there, but without marijuana and psychedelics then it's not really the hippie experience that makes communes enjoyable and promotes friendship and kindness.

I can't imagine that a commune without psychedelics is able to take it easy and love each other anymore than normal communities are able to.

>> No.9771387

Reported, just like those mansion threads. Keep it up and you'll have a commune of faggots sucking cocks all the time and not doing anything. Including you.

>> No.9771390

>>9771384
Most communes ... are not free-love refuges for flower children, but well-ordered, financially solvent cooperatives where pragmatics, not psychedelics, rule the day.

>> No.9771393

>>9771390
Not really. Psychedelics are generally looked at fondly. If you don't want to do them, that's up to you.

>> No.9771411

I'd be fine with living off the grid for everything except the most important thing. No internet.

Plus there's absolutely no reason for you not to run off with the money or poison us all.

>> No.9771412

>>9771390

>but well-ordered, financially solvent cooperatives where pragmatics

That's the problem with them though. If I wanted to live under the iron fist of a pragmatist then I'd just get a job.

Hippie communes were unique because everyone was very loving and kind.

>> No.9771422

>>9771390
Hey, I remember the Wikipedia article too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commune

>> No.9771423

>>9771377
I'm not quite sure what happened with /jp/ Mansion. I lost interest in the threads and haven't seen them since. I guess you could always go diving through the archive.

>>9771411
>No internet
Oh god, the horror. I'm not sure what I would do with all my time.

>> No.9771442

>>9771412
Just because someone is pragmatic doesn't mean he/she is iron-fisted. More like they're concerned with results and won't let the commune go under.

>> No.9771439

>>9771411

What about satellite internet?

It's not fast, but you can get it basically any where.

>> No.9771457

>>9771439
Horrible ping if you want to play any online games, draconian download limits that wouldn't even cover a days worth of use in a month, and they cost money, which you typically don't have if you're living off the grid.

>> No.9771474

>>9771442

>More like they're concerned with results

The power always gets to people like this. They're already a very controlling type of person since they have a fairly robotic way of looking at the world.

The best leader is no leader at all. Maybe the commune will be a mess, horribly inefficient, and filled with tripping NEETs that are talking to their plants, but they'll be happy. That's more important than whether or not the commune is a "well-ordered, financially solvent cooperative."

>> No.9771475

>>9771354
I'll double-check the laws but I don't see why it wouldn't be considered a valid job, especially if the commune is registered as a business.

>>9771360
>>9771366
>>9771368
>Details
Canada's cheapest land is in Northern Ontario. I routinely see properties of dozens of acres selling for under $50K on the different websites I check. This is because the area is remote. Most people have no will to move there given the lack of amenities and jobs. Quebec is also a good option but some people may have trouble with the language barrier. We'll get a title check on the property before buying of course. The parcel will need to be carefully checked for soil quality and stability, UNLESS we build a greenhouse which is only practical if it's feeding less than 10 people. Power will come from a mix of wind and woodgas or propane. Solar is simply too expensive and too weak in Eastern Canada. Sewage and trash will be either composted or incinerated. Water can be collected from precipitation but it will be more reliable and clean to have a well drilled. Our homes could be either fixed structures (very messy and slow legally speaking), or on wheels. I strongly favor keeping the latter. The total number of people we have should not exceed about 10 in my opinion. Anything more is just begging for fights, injuries, and/or hardship. These are just my preliminary thoughts. This thread is all about discussion and idea-sharing.

>> No.9771480

>>9771475
How would we post on /jp/?

>> No.9771488

Sounds great, and it'd be loads of fun, but let's be realistic here. There's a reason why not many people choose to live this way. Obstacles will arise continually and consistently, and /jp/ers are hardly the type to persevere. I imagine we'll have arguments, financial troubles, Internet woes and general bouts of unhappiness. If you are sure there's a way to circumvent this, or at least come up with a method well-grounded in reality, I'll consider it.

Until then, it's a mere formless thought in our heads.

>> No.9771491

>>9771480
You just talk with the 10 /jp/sies there.

>> No.9771493

>>9771475
1. How would we get internet access?
2. How much would it cost to drill a well, wouldn't it be cheaper to find land with a stream which could also provide electricity?

>> No.9771499

>>9771493
Doesn't matter, we're all dead once the winter comes.

>> No.9771500

Isn't Canada cold as hell?

Won't it be hard to grow stuff when it feels like we're on the north pole for half the year?

>> No.9771503

I would have to talk to you everyday for a year or two before deciding something like that.
That would be very nice though, I've always wanted to live out away from all of the cities with a few close acquaintances. Heh, ever since I played Harvest Moon years ago, I've always wanted to live on a farm.

>> No.9771504

>>9771474
>but they'll be happy
Therein lies the problem. I for one believe that if results aren't at least somewhat coordinated, the issues that will inevitably arise would lead to unhappiness. I can't say if this is a mere difference in perspective, or an absolute truth.

>> No.9771509

/k/ is so far the only board who's even come close to actually doing this so far as at least they've already bought the land the nobody is going to settle.

I'd probably consider killing a few months at a place like this if it took off just to complain about it a few years from now when it's part of the board culture. Or I would if it were in the US. I'm not going anywhere near people from the internet without a gun.

Good luck, I guess. Everyone here is broke, or so rich they'd never need to think about leaving their parent's mcmansion.

>> No.9771517

>>9771509
People from /k/ actually bought land for this? Have they done anything else? That's kind of surprising, really.

>> No.9771518

>>9771500
That's only nothern Canada. I know a guy who lives in Canada and his seasons are very similar to mine (Holland).

>> No.9771522

>>9771509
>they've already bought the land
R-really?

>> No.9771531

If I became filthy rich I'd make a /jp/ haven for everyone here. Of course. no-one would wind up coming and I'd be all alone in big empty mansion ;_;

>> No.9771532

>>9771504

What really needs that much coordination in this kind of scenario though?

Just make a little bulletin board with the community survival objectives for the month. People grow food, once we have enough to survive then everybody just takes it easy. In a commune of 10 or so people living in a very simple way the things that you are required to do are pretty simple.

>> No.9771537

>>9771531
What are you spoiling?

>> No.9771540

>>9771475
Continued...

Depending on where we are, we might be able to get an Internet line. If we're hundreds of miles away from any town of course, then satellite is the only option and it's slow, laggy, and very expensive. Winter needn't be a problem if we plan ahead. Nearly all foods can be canned in a way that preserves quality, safety and taste. Clothing and footwear will have to be brought by each member at first. We simply won't have the resources or climate we need to run a cotton plantation. If we ever get to the point that we make some money from our happy little commune, we can always buy new clothes but frankly mending is very underrated and can push their lifespan ahead by years. For transportation, only one vehicle should be necessary at first. It's not like we'll be driving to work every day. A satellite phone is an absolute must in the event of a medical emergency. Additionally, we'll need a backup tent set up and ready in winter in case of a fire. This shouldn't happen if you remember the basics you learned as a child. I'd strongly prefer that no one brought drugs into the commune but I won't have a hissy fit if someone brings a joint. Drug dealers and other serious criminals are absolutely not welcome.

>> No.9771541

>>9771517
>>9771522
Yeah, the difference is it's just one guy funding it, everyone else was just invited for labor. I stopped following the threads after the first few, but it seems like they plan on clearing the forest it's on and building mostly out of the resulting lumber after the year or so it'll take to dry.

The planned to do satellite internet, though obviously their needs would be very different than typical /jp/ posters. It was designed as more of a flophouse where people would blow through their savings and then fuck off back home, than a permanent place to stay.

It's in rural Maine, I believe, so if they see that as feasible, rural Canada can't be much different. Although, their land has a stream of some sort.

As for it's it's progressed since then, I have no idea. They moved all that shit to a forum made for the project, but it's been long enough for something to have happened by now if it ever will.

>> No.9771545

Not OP, but I grew up in Northern BC, and know what the winters are like. It's not bad if you prepare, and your body acclimates to the cold weather after a few days.

>> No.9771543

>>9771531
I feel so selfish. I know that if I ever got one million dollars, I would just use it all for myself. I calculated that I could survive 100+ years off that alone. No idea what's wrong with me, because I certainly don't want to hold on to that kind of viewpoint. Some subconscious attachments, I suppose.

>> No.9771547

>>9771543
Jesus, I could live forever off 200k. How much fucking money are you planning on wasting a month?

>> No.9771548

>>9771540
>Drug dealers and other serious criminals are absolutely not welcome.
I guess I'm out. This really sucks for drugNEETs. We could have had something nice. Oh well.

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9771549

>meetup threads are considered /soc/ shit
>meetup & living together like cave men threads are A-OK

>> No.9771551

>>9771543
Same here. I might pay some of my mom's debt, but keep the rest for myself.

>> No.9771552

>>9771531
>and I'd be all alone in big empty mansion
Within the confines of a grandiose manor, there is a man, a man whom no one understands. He lives there in solitude, unwatched, ungoverned by anything, anyone. Under the pale moonlight, he slowly whittles away eternity.

Isn't that sort of romantic? I'd love to have a mansion all to myself.

>> No.9771554

>>9771547
I'm not planning to be homeless.

>> No.9771557

>>9771474
>The best leader is no leader at all. Maybe the commune will be a mess, horribly inefficient, and filled with tripping NEETs that are talking to their plants, but they'll be happy.
Yes, they'll be happy for a few months until the commune collapses entirely, but OP is interested in having something work.

>> No.9771562

>>9771554
Me neither. Buy a house, rent it out, live off the rent. I'm pretty sure a 1 bedroom flat costs less to rent a month than a 3 or 4 bedroom house.

>> No.9771560

>>9771532
Hmm, that could work. But is it really so simple? I'd imagine since just one person is difficult to take care of and/or manage, 10 would be hellish. There must be much "behind-the-scenes" work.

>> No.9771565

>>9771493
See my last post for my comments on the Internet. The cost of a well depends on how far down the water table is. A very vague guesstimate I can give is that it would be around 4 figures at the low end. Taking water from streams would require distilling or sanitizing it in some way and that consumes a lot of energy. Also, it would freeze in winter so setting up a water wheel for electricity would only work about 7 or 8 months out of the year.

>> No.9771568

>>9771562
Rent it out, and set aside a potrtion of it to live in as a seperate unit. One floor, the attic, an attic built over the garage, something like that.

Then it costs you nothing extra to live in your little NEET hole save for the utilities. And if you were enough of a lowlife, you could scam your way out of those as well.

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9771566

Hmm... Commune. Commune as in communist. Do whatever you want in Canada, socialists, but don't bring that sick ideology down here or there will be hell to pay.

>> No.9771572

>>9771568
I don't like houses. I'd rather live in a basement or in an apartment.

>> No.9771577

>>9771572
I've never seen it happen, but it's probably not impossible to basement dwell in the house you're renting out. You just need private means of egress.

>> No.9771574

>>9771568
Then I have to see them when I leave to get groceries. I'd prefer to keep contact to a minimum aside from repair work.

>> No.9771579
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9771579

Why don't 2-3 NEETs that are on SSI just get together and rent a little apartment?

No job, no work, plenty of extra money, still have internet.

>> No.9771581

>>9771577
Who is going to do all the yard work and house work and all that?

>> No.9771585

>>9771579
I am extremely anal about being in isolation and having everything absolutely clean. The only way I know that a place is clean is if I'm the only one living in said space. I wish I wasn't like that, but such is life.

>> No.9771586

>>9771581
It's your tenant's problem. Make sure that's mentioned in the lease.

Afterall, what do you care if they neglect it?
I mean you're just living on the same parcel of land, you'd even have separate addresses it's not like you'd be sharing a bed.

>> No.9771587

>>9771579
Because they tend to have more money living at home with their parents. Plus, living with other people, especially ones you don't know much, is hell.

>> No.9771589

>>9771585
Find someone like you then, or someone even more of a neat freak.

>> No.9771592

>>9771549
Yeah, I really hate that. I think it would be wonderful if we had a little /jp/ meetup and just hung out for a few hours. I've been to plenty of meetups in the past and visited loads of people I've met on 4chan, and really, they were easily some of the best days of my life.
Only problem with /jp/ is that a large majority of us are poor/can't afford travel, refuse to do any sort of socialising or leave the house, or the ones who have enough money to travel and are willing to socialise typically aren't mentally stable, or at least from what I've experienced.

Sigh.

>> No.9771596

>>9771592
I can already tell that you're a real winner.
I'm sure people are just lining up to meet your stupid ass.

>> No.9771595

>>9771579

I would be fine with living in a small apartment with one other NEET and splitting our SSI.

He would have to be a drug user though. It would be too hard to bond with each other without that. I don't want to live in a house with a stranger, but if he feels like a brother to me then it's cool. That's where the drugs come in, smoking brings people together.

>> No.9771598

>>9771587
It's fine if you've known them for a while, IRC usually helps with this. Also splitting the rent and bills etc keeps costs down by a bit. It would be horrible if one of the people you were staying with was truly suicidal and decided to burn down the place or some shit.

>> No.9771600

>>9771585
What if someone were to come along and make your boy pussy dirty?

Also I have SSI too.

>> No.9771603

>>9771557
>>9771560
We'll need to be have at least a small amount of planning. It doesn't even have to be a chore. It could just be a casual chat about problems/opportunities we see in the near future.

>> No.9771604

>>9771585
>>9771587
You guys act as if it's on-par with being locked in a room with an alien lifeform for a year.
It's another NEET, calm down. You two/three can play vidya to get to know each other and lock yourselves up in your rooms when you want to be alone, of course you would all understand each other.

>> No.9771608

>>9771596
What? I don't think I understand your reply.
I was just talking about my experiences with meeting up with people from here, it's on topic.

>> No.9771610

>>9771595
The exact opposite is more desirable. Only a fellow NEET could appreciate how great it is to never see the person you live with. We could just avoid each other and pretend the other doesn't exist.

Who wants to live with a smoker or a drug addict though? You'd discolor our figures and upset our asthma with your filthy habits.

>> No.9771612

>>9771604
What if you get an epic troll, who decides to kill you for the lulz?

>> No.9771614

>>9771586
I don't care personally, I just thought that the tenant might demand it of me. And I certainly wouldn't want that.

>> No.9771616

>>9771604
But I always want to be alone.

>> No.9771624

>>9771595
Well, if you want to live around people who do that shit by all means go ahead, but I think we'd have to keep that separate. Not everyone like the smell of weed and all that,

>> No.9771627

>>9771610

>Only a fellow NEET could appreciate how great it is to never see the person you live wit

You can't pull that off with a monthly income of two or three SSI checks though. The apartment would be way too small, you're definitely going to see them on a daily basis so you might as well like them.

>You'd discolor our figures and upset our asthma with your filthy habits.

Can always just bake it into some food. You don't have to deal with the smoke then.

>> No.9771632

>>9771614
No, I've lived in a few rented houses and I usually had to tend to the lawn myself. It's rare to get someone who actually wants to come down and do it. The landlord has to paint the outside and handle the roof and things, you're required by law to keep the place livable but that's all.

Usually they'll shy away from allowing tenants to make permanent changes to the house becuase you might end up with matte black 13 year old's rooms, carpet nailed to the walls, and water damage.

>> No.9771637

>>9771627
I live with my mom who doesn't even get £8k a year and we've been managing. I'm sure if 2 - 4 people all of which getting ~£8k/year would work out just fine.

>> No.9771640

I'd be up for that but I'd probably only do it after it's slightly more established.

I hate being the first to do anything since I'm so bad at planning things.

>> No.9771641

>>9771627
At least you're reasonable about it.

>
You can't pull that off with a monthly income of two or three SSI checks though. The apartment would be way too small, you're definitely going to see them on a daily basis so you might as well like them.
I'm not so sure. I rarely leave my room more than once or twice a day, even when I have the place to myself and I make an effort to learn schedules so I'm less likely to see anyone during my lightning raids. I'd wager a guess that at least some other NEETs are this way too, rather than super social types who would stay glued to your side the entire time.

Perhaps this is a time when the NEET/hikki distinction is relevant.

>> No.9771653

>>9771640
I doubt anyone here is good enough at planning and leading things such as this.

>> No.9771670

>>9771637

>I live with my mom who doesn't even get £8k a year and we've been managing

Where do you guys live? I live with my mother, she makes about $37k a year as a teacher and we can barely afford a one bedroom apartment. I sleep on a couch next to my computer.

>>9771641

I would probably keep to myself too, but if I didn't feel at least a little comfortable around the other NEETs then the little things would make me uncomfortable after awhile. Using the restroom for example, I was forced to go on a family vacation once, I didn't really know most of the people there, and I was constipated the entire time since doing that near strangers was way too uncomfortable.

>> No.9771673

>>9771670
So just pick one 12 hour block where the rest of the apartment is yours barring emergencies. Of course it gets more convoluted when you try stuffing fifty people in one place, but the savings are lost once you have more than two bedrooms anyway.

>> No.9771869

OP, what's your plan to remain solvent?

>> No.9771900

I do not know how Canada law works.
But you'd need significantly more money than the cost to buy land. You'd need to build multiple facilities.
Not to mention the initial cost of prepping the land for farming, and the cost of supplies between time between its harvest and first planting.

This is a bad plan. The only way it works is if there is one sole person able to fund the project and sustain it alone, this way if things do not work, the original person's kindness is not punished as he could still live on the land himself.

>> No.9771902

I remember when SA tried to do this.

It did not go well.

>> No.9771910

Are you still here, OP?

>> No.9772028

>>9771910
OP was just somebody who made this thread for people to throw around the idea in so it didn't take up room in the one it was originally pitched in.

He has no intention of actually doing it, so it doesn't actually matter if he's here or not.

>> No.9772035

>>9771869
Beg the rich members for monies

>> No.9773156

Back everyone. Bumping for the dayNEETs.

>> No.9773197

I'm a NEET because I find real people abrasive and annoying.

No thank you.

>> No.9773252

>>9773156
Opie, answer this guy >>9771869

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9773264

This is a stupid idea. If you don't have >=1GB/s internet connection how do you expect to play future Japanese VR?

>> No.9773272

>>9773264
We'd be buttfucking each other too much to care

>> No.9773296

>>9773272
You will never travel the stars playing Touhou in a virtual world. How does that make you feel?

>> No.9773338

>>9773296
I only feel the pleasure of being cummed inside my butt.

It is overwhelming me too much to care.

>> No.9773401

Will I still be welcome if I don't have the initial money for the land, equipment, etc.?

>> No.9773437

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_community
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_community
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecovillage

>> No.9773438

Afraid I'm a uk NEET.

Good idea in theory though if it were done seriously and with a lot of planning. Unfortunately a lot of NEETs are very apathetic or just enjoy being alone.

>> No.9773467

Is real life building anything like Minecraft?

>> No.9773471

BritNEETs, lets organise a squat or something.

A UK /jp/sie was looking for a flatmate a while back, but it never worked out.

>> No.9773480

>>9773467
It's more like Haven and Hearth in many aspects, including the marauding gangs of murderous Russians.

>> No.9773485

I would do this if I could be a brewer, but i doubt that's a priority.

>> No.9773514

I can take on the role of cook.

I wonder if there is a lot of game in Canada, because I'd hate to go vegetarian.

>> No.9773523

>>9773471

I'd be willing to do something this as I don't think I can keep up this lifestyle much longer. The hints of moving out from my parents are getting firmer.

>> No.9773545

>>9771475
>>9771540
So it's dwarf fortress except with /jp/sies?
Count me in.

>> No.9773629

>>9773252
The recurring expenses will be trivial once divided between us all. They will include things like property taxes (very low in remote areas), insurance for the vehicle, the emergency satellite phone and so forth. This can be covered with a mix of investment income and the occasional sale of lumber and produce. Chopped lumber gets top dollar in remote areas of Canada. Selling agricultural products in Canada is a bit of a regulatory mess but most of the BS can be avoided by planning things from the beginning with food safety in mind. I strongly support the idea of building a greenhouse partly for this reason. It can be done very cheaply with flexible polymer sheets that let the entire light spectrum through. They can even be layered with air pockets to keep warmth in during winter.

>> No.9773652

>removing yourself from 'The Matrix' (best analogy I can come up with ehehe)

Enjoy fighting off armed DEA and FBI agents who have been specifically trained to kill people like you, dude. Good luck.

>> No.9773657

>>9773629
Eh, I don't think that lumber and produce will be able to keep the community financially independent. Especially if we're not planning on bringing in modern equipment.

But speaking of more pressing matter, have you calculated how much the whole thing is going to cost? It will obviously be variable depending on the number of people inside of it, but do you have a rough figure of the cost for 5, 10, and 20 people respectively?

>> No.9773663

>>9773652
On a side note, check Ruby Ridge and the Waco Siege if you want a real life example of what happens when you try to escape the system.

>> No.9773659

>>9773652
Just like in the movie!

>> No.9773661

>>9773652
>FBI

But this will be Canada. Land of the free, home of the cowards.

>> No.9773662

>>9773652
>Live in Canada
>Own a remote property
>American law enforcement attacks us

Does not compute. I'm afraid you're hopeless Anon. So many Canadians own cottages, hunting properties and other remote land that the very idea of us being singled out as a drug operation is ridiculous. Besides dealers and other serious criminals aren't welcome to join this project anyway.

>> No.9773676

>>9773662
>>singled out as a drug operation

Yeah, that's the excuse they'll make as they scoop up and bag your chubby bullet-riddled NEET ass from the forest floor.

>> No.9773675

>>9773662
Speaking of hunting, are there a lot of wild animals that we can hunt/poach?

>> No.9773678

>>9773662
I'm imagine we'd have more than a few illegal Americans if someone actually does this.

>> No.9773686

>>9773657
$100,000 per person

>> No.9773700

>>9773629
Can opiates grow in Northern Canada? The weather is probably very hostile

>> No.9773704

>>9773700
Nobody said anything about Northern Canada.

We're trying to be farmers, not hunter-gatherers.

>> No.9773723

Real life Swan Song minus the females, earthquakes and eternal winter eh...

>> No.9773795

I'm a little interested, but I need Internet too much to give it up.

>> No.9773820

>>9773523
We could move to the Lake District, no one will find us there. Am I allowed to wear a skirt?

>> No.9773824
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>>9773820
Sure thing. I live near there, anyway.

>> No.9773828

>>9773820
Only if you're scottish

>> No.9773855

>>9773471
haven't they changed around the law a little so squatting is more likely to get you arrested? But I'm interested in any case.

>> No.9773857

>>9773855
Wear a burqa, complain about prejudice. If they point out you are male, tell them to check their cis privilege and complain about prejudice some more. You will eventually get what you want.

>> No.9773867
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OP. You want to live away in an off-grid living environment? I am somewhat a town-guy too, so I've often though about the same. Heck, I have a goddamn farm on my backyard with ducks and chickens and a pig.

Well, it's not really off-grid since it's part of a town already. That means you'd have some sort of internet access essential for /jp/sies. And you'd have to work around migration issues as well, I suppose. I haven't looked very into it yet since I just found out last night before going to sleep.

The property itself, like you wanted to suggest, is dirt cheap. 1 cent per square meter. Anyone could buy as much terrain as they needed there. Heck, if I had enough money (for building a house) I would buy land for myself. There are a few "catches" though, if you want to look at it that way.

The most important one is that you need to build a 65 sq m house within 3 years. I'm sure if you were to do a /jp/ commune though, you'd need a house of that size, most likely more.

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>>9773867
I'd be more than glad to chip in for a project of a house like this. The town is a small town in Hokkaido called Chippubetsu, so it's not that different from cold temperatures in Canada.

I guess you'd need some dominion over the Japanese language as well, but every respectable /jp/sie does their reps already, don't they?

Some links for further clarification:
http://www.town.chippubetsu.hokkaido.jp/images/0113/011300003.pdf
http://www.town.chippubetsu.hokkaido.jp

>> No.9773893

>>9773872
I've always liked hokkaido the most. Let's do it, my contribution will be £20.

What were you expecting more? NEETs don't have money.

>> No.9773899

>>9773867
>square meter
>meter

Is this Europe or Canada?

>> No.9773905

>>9773899
It's Japan, silly. Read my second post.

>> No.9773911

>>9773872
B-But Visa and stuff.

I don't think Japan will give out free visas to people for living in communes.

I live in Japan. If this can somehow become a real thing, I'd be willing to relocate to Hokkaido

>> No.9773921

>>9773872
>Hokkaido
>Farming

Oh boy. We better take up horseback riding.

>> No.9773926

>>9773899
I thought Canada used meters?

>> No.9773927

>>9773911
I'd just travel there as a tourist and never come back. It's not like anyone will come looking for me in the countryside

the problem is finding a source of income.

>> No.9773933

I can cook stuff, can I join? I can learn to make all your favorite meals and can make japanese food like curry

>> No.9773935

>>9773926
I can't tell the difference between shitposting, ironic shitposting, and genuflecting dumbfucks anymore

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>>9773911
I am not very versed in how immigration works in Japan, but there has to be a way if you own land there.
Maybe you can help out in consultation and see if it's a viable thing then. There's this.

http://www.town.chippubetsu.hokkaido.jp/index.php?id=100092

>> No.9773940

>>9773927
1.Teach English.

2.Fuck schoolgirls.

3.Get arrested.

4.TruNEET 4 Lyfe!

>> No.9773946

>>9773937
I can check out the visa situation again, but it is fairly stringent last time I checked.

I can checkout the specifics later, because I haven't really looked into investor/property visas yet.

>> No.9773951

Noo... I don't trust you. You guys would just end up eating my legs during winter.

>> No.9773950

>>9773927
On the contrary.

Police occasionally stop you for being a foreigner. Not to mention that the neighbors will talk about the strange gaijin farmer(s).

Unless you decide to not go outside at all, visa is necessary.

>> No.9773956

>>9773951
Why eat your legs if I can just squeeze out ur dik 4 delisous PROteen?

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Fuck no, I wouldn't consider living with one of you crazy neckbeard turbonerds in the slightest. Would consider adopting cute hiki girl that's good around the house though.

>> No.9773975

>>9773968
A cute girl wouldn't be a hikki

>> No.9773988

>>9773950
I guess I could set up a fake employee-entrepeneur relationship with whoever owned the property and get a work visa, if such a thing exists there. But he'd have to pay taxes and similar things, no?

>> No.9773994

>>9773988
Hmm...I'm not sure if they accept work visas for manual labor and such.

The best thing honestly would be to get a working holiday visa for a year and find a desperate Japanese girl to marry. It wouldn't be too hard to marry a christmas cake.

>> No.9774004

>Hokkaido
Fuck that shit. The J-cops will deport everyone in days. We should keep it to the US/Canada.

>> No.9774005

>>9773994
How does "consultant" sound?

>> No.9774028

>>9774005
Honestly speaking, I'm not going to go through the trouble of setting up a fake company, applying for visas, and forging accounts just to bring /jp/ over to Hokkaido.

That's the exact opposite of taking it easy.

>> No.9774047

>>9773872
Can you say why a 65sq m house needs to be built within 3 years?

Is it a regulation or something?

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>>9774047
It's one of the contract clauses. The town decided so, I suppose.

>> No.9774202

>>9774028
Guess not, but I spent a long time (2yrs) backpacking through Europe and never had any problems with law enforcement. I've been longing to try it in Asia for some time now, got any experiences with them that you'd like to share?

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What does /jp/ think of earthbags? You could have your own cute house, and for little money too!

>> No.9774304

>>9774202
>them

Them as in the police or the Japanese?

>> No.9774306

>>9774267
Sandbags a shit.

>> No.9774317

>>9774304
Either is fine!
I was stopped by police once near Lake Balaton because I looked very "disoriented" (I was nearing the end of my journey and was very tired) but not arrested.
Do you think the same thing could happen in Japan?

>> No.9774318

This sounds nice, but my main question is: Will I be able to pave dicks and swastikas all over the place instead of doing actual work?

>> No.9774367

>>9774267
Bugs everywhere.

>> No.9774373

>>9774317
As long as you're white they'll just assume you're a backpacker and not a hobo up to no good.

>> No.9774396

>>9774317
I got a warning for lighting firecrackers on a deserted beach at night. Japanese kids got off scot-free. I had all my personal data profiled.

I got stopped for running with my earbuds. I forgot my wallet at that time, so the police decided to follow me back home to check for my passport.

The cops aren't exactly fond of the foreigners. Sure, they're polite and friendly, but they're out to get you.

>> No.9774401

>>9774396
wow you got told scrub

>> No.9774424

>>9774396
Oh wow... overstaying could be very difficult. I'll cut it down to a few months, or try somewhere else. Thanks for the info.

>> No.9774434

>>9774396
What ethnicity are you?

>> No.9774612

>>9774434
Asian. East Asian. Korean American to be exact.

I blend right in when I keep my damn mouth shut. It's just that I hang around other foreigners who are more noticeable.

>> No.9775537

I always thought these threads (m/a/nsion, /jp/ mansion, /k/ fort "inna woods") were just a big joke. The fun is in its planning, but never beyond that.

>> No.9776080

>>9775537
If the plan is good enough, you'll want to follow through.

>> No.9776104

>>9773911
>I live in Japan. If this can somehow become a real thing, I'd be willing to relocate to Hokkaido
If I marry you, can I also live in Japan?

>> No.9776124 [DELETED] 

http://pooshlmer.com/wakaba/res/539864.html

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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/jp-mansion-a-neet-place-to-be/

Let's do it, /jp/!

>> No.9776194

Get raped and robbed: The thread

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If I ever win the lottery, I'll buy you a mansion so we can all live in it together. It'll have maids and food and comfy beds and a garden and a pool and lots of fun stuff to do.
I love you, /jp/.

>> No.9776232

>>9773471
>A UK /jp/sie was looking for a flatmate a while back, but it never worked out.

I wouldn't want to room with a gypsie, since he would steal all my stuff when he left.

>> No.9776248

I have no intention of leaving my comfortable home, but the idea of a bunch of soft NEETs trying to live off the land is very funny to me, so I'm willing to contribute to the cost of this.

>> No.9776253

>>9774612
>Korean

Being Korean in Japan is suffering.

>> No.9776261

>>9776104
Only if you're a little girl

>> No.9776274

>>9776248
I thought that there was a couple of ex-military /jp/ members. They should know a couple of things at least.

>> No.9776319

>>9776274
>They should know a couple of things at least.
We know that getting internet is particularly difficult when you're living "off the grid."

>> No.9776339

>>9776261
No! I can dress in kigurumi and pleasure you. I'm a virgin, I am saving my butt virginity for you!

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