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in b4 all these stupid "baw she die before me" doujins
i'd rather read My sweet Hakutaku

>>9722161
I agree. This drama is dull already.

Pretty sure her history hacking ability would allow her to rewind her age.

What if she just chops her own liver into tiny tiny bits and puts it into some food without telling her

And how much liver would one need to eat to be immortal, could she grind it into powder and poison the village well to make everyone there immortal?

>>9722154
OTP
>>9722161
Just read your shitty doujinshi. It was awful.

Death doesn't mean shit in Gensokyo when you can be a ghost and avoid hell by beating the shinigami who is too lazy to come for you.

>>9722375
>avoid hell by beating the shinigami who is too lazy to come for you.
it might take a while but they will come for you

>>9722363
/r/ing dump

>>9722401
It's nsfw and i have a static ip. You can find it on /rs/. Do it yourself. And as I said it's not interesting.

>>9722414
/r/ing dump!!!!

cant she just rewrite history and make herself young again?

>>9722445
>>>/r/

I think such a long lived immortal has learned to cherish past lives for what they were, not that they ended.

Looks like Mokou and Kaguya better make up since they'll be the last ones in all of Gensokyo.

>>9723106
Don't forget Eirin!

>>9723099
Woah, Leisen looks awkward as HELL.

>>9723119
>implying she is immortal.
Rather, don't forget Tewi, since she takes care of her health.

>>9723328
Please don't use meme arrows to embellish your arguments.

>>9723119
Eirin isn't perfectly immortal, she's immortal to an extent. Only Kaguya and Mokou are referred to as the eternals as such. Eirin probably just doesn't age or get sick, probably has some wild regeneration, or a drug for that.

There aren't any humans who won't die.

>>9723410
I'll always be eternal.

>>9723262
Oh my.

>>9722161
Hey, I like them, they make me cry everytim. Go be edgy somewhere else.

>>9723353
>meme arrows
Is this a new meme to replace or complement the "Who are you quoting?" phrase.

>>9723653
It can be if you want to.

>>9723678
>safe

>>9723664
want to what?

That's not Mystia...

Why does eating the liver make you immortal?

>>9723083

Too responsible.
After all, Keine is only a beast once a month.

Someone needs to make a doujin of Mokou traveling to the underworld to fight Yama and Komachi for Keine's soul.

And after she kicks their asses, Keine returns with Mokou to Gensokyo.

Sort of like that story of the Greek guy and Hades. Only with a happy ending. And fighting instead of singing.

>>9723739

In-universe urban legend. Supposedly the entire elixir isn't metabolised and some of the ingredients remain in the liver, so it's presumed that eating the liver of a true immortal bestows immortality.
There are a lot of far Eastern folk tales where eating livers has some special magical significance, so it isn't anything new.

>>9723739
It's where the elixir ends up.

>>9723761
It would probably be better to cite the successful story of someone saving someone from death.
Like that time Hercules kicked death's ass for someone he kinda liked, then got smashed and screwed all of the guy's daughters in one night.

>>9723761
Even in the best case scenario, wouldn't keine be lacking physical form?

>>9723761
Speaking of Mokou and the Yama, has there been any official input as to what she thinks of the Phoenix? I'd like to see the two meet some time.

>>9723785

She could be a poltergeist.
With varying amounts of seriousness, in a world where there are poltergeists that manifest entirely through an Amati playing itself there is no reason there couldn't be a poltergeist that manifests entirely through unexplained blows to the head.

>>9723785
That wasn't an issue for that Greek guy. Or Hercules apparently.

I'm sure that Yama could return Keine to her body.

>>9723822
Well, in Hercules' case, he fought Death /before/ he could take the guy.
Fans of guro could also have one where Mokou rips out part of her liver and tries to get Keine to eat it.

>>9723822
It's a hassle to get a new body. Akyuu has to wait 100 years or so between reincarnations.

Although maybe humans would have more problems then half-youkai

Mokou would never make Keine immortal. Mokou knows more than anyone that being immortal sucks really, really hard; why would she condemn her best friend to such a terrible fate?

>>9723861
Because it would fix the worst part of being immortal (watching everyone but the person you hate most die)?

>>9723761
Something similar has been done, but not much fighting.

>>9723861
Keine wouldn't technically be immortal if Mokou forced Yama to return her from death each time she died. Or at least, forced Yama to make Keine reincarnate into Gensokyo.

>>9722161
It's a stupid concept. Someone that old would be mature enough to accept the fact and move on

It's simple. We kill the Yama.

>>9723410
they kind of live by being a part of their offspring

>>9723873
>but not much fighting

Well why the hell not? Yama versus Mokou would make for such an awesome fight.

Yama would keep hammering Mokou, but Mokou would refuse to give up. Eventually Yama would relent because she'd realize that, no matter how many times she destroyed Mokou's body, it would simply regenerate, and Mokou's spirit could not be broken.

>>9723894

Enma too died once. Doubt death in the company is more than an inconvenience in the celestial bureaucracy.
As for the concept of death-within-death... well, a lot stranger things have happened around here.

>>9723400
What about Yukari, Yuyuko, Kanako, Suwako, Byakuren, the vampires and the onis?

>>9723889
I don't think so.

Mokou is deeply introverted. That's why she lives alone in the woods and she won't even talk to the people she rescues from Youkai.

But somehow she seems to have developed a close friendship with Keine.

I would assume that, after centuries of losing everyone she cared about, Mokou tried to prevent herself from forming relationships. That's why she became so introverted. But somehow she ended up befriending Keine, even after trying to force herself away from other people.

I think that would make the loss of Keine especially bitter.

>>9723919

Oni lead long lives and are hard to kill, but they are not even close to anything that could be called immortality.

>>9723919
Except for maybe Yuyuko and the gods, they're all subject to death by bodily destruction.
Gods are special and Yuyuko is dead already.

>>9723915
Are all Buddhist deities subject to the reincarnation cycle like everyone else?

>>9723935
I liked the part where eirin hesitated.

>>9723944
Knowing Yukari, she's probably got some plan to avoid that.

>>9723969
Same with Remi. And knowing Flan, she's pretty much immune to death by bodily destruction out of sheer overpower.

>>9723946

Variable depending on the branch. Not familiar with all of them, but Enma may be an exception since at least according to one account, he was specifically made ruler of the underworld as a substitute for failing to achieve immortality.

Nobody seems to be a very good sport about dying

>>9723991
End of Maiden's Illusion featured a pretty peaceful death.

>>9723989
>Variable depending on the branch.

There's so many fucking sects of Buddhism.

And aren't the majority, at least in terms of numbers of practitioners, non-theistic?

And do the non-theistic Buddhists actually reject the notion of a God or a pantheon of gods, or do they just think that the question isn't important?

And do the theistic Buddhists who believe in multiple gods also believe in God, like many Hindus? Those polymonotheistic Hindus. Like there are all these deities out there but they're all part of a single, supreme entity like the Abrahamic God, or something.

Man Buddhism and Hinduism are weird.

>>9724002
That feel when you see Japanese and habitually move your cursor over it to see the translation.
I need to spend less time on Danbooru...

>>9724002
This was hilarious.

>>9723946
As far I know, the reincarnation in Buddhism and Hinduism are to reach the "perfection" until then, you will keep reincarnating. If we consider a deity a perfect thing, it means that they can't die nor reincarnate like a mortal, but they can choose a mortal body to reincarnate and teach stuff to the humanity.

Buddha for example is the reincarnation of Vishnu, who was trying to learn about humanity.

>>9724006

To be honest? I have no clue.
I thought I was getting the hang of it upon realising that the majority of buddhist "deities" are simply mortals that have dropped out of the cycle of reincarnation, but I lost it again upon realising said "majority" is actually spread all over the place, with sects in Tibet, China, Japan, what have you. And in Japan there's supposedly a theist buddhist sect that has the original Hindu pantheon, but none of the Hindu teachings.

Although reality kind of pales compared to the suggestion that Shikieiki may have been a statue in "life".

Wouldn't it be sad if Keine just erased all of her history and time spent with Mokou right before she died, so Mokou wouldn't be depressed over her passing away?

>>9724272
It's still the accepted scenario.

>>9724486
And she didn't even invit Mokou? That's why she is the worst touhou.

It's as if you people think Mokou hasn't witnessed a trillion deaths before. Sure she'd be a little sad over a friend's death, but she knows everyone will die one day but her, she's always known. She wouldn't go "OHHH NOO KEINES DEAD WAAAHHHH"

You guys are seriously autismal. Keine can not and will never die because ZUN won't ever have time advance far enough in canon.

>>9724551
And you're completely missing the point.

>>9724555
No you're missing the point because there's no discussion to be had.

>>9724515
She's only around thirteen-hundred years old, so even if she were a social butterfly she would only have met tens of thousands at the most.
Since she lives such a reclusive life, she's probably only actually known a thousand or even less.
And the reason she lives such a life is because she /can't/ deal with the people she loves dying, and knows it.

>>9724561

How do you know that?

>>9724570
http://exhentai.org/g/54950/03b8905787/

>>9724577
>>9724577

>And the reason she lives such a life is because she /can't/ deal with the people she loves dying, and knows it.

This part.

>>9724584
Elementary, my dear Anon.
Really, though, it's just a logical interpretation. She talks about how being immortal is so torturous, she lives all alone and the first thing she assumes when people venture into her vicinity is that they were sent as assassins by Kaguya.
Unless the Hourai Elixir has the unforeseen side-effect of causing constant, literal pain, it's pretty obvious that she doesn't want to form an emotional bond with people.

>>9724584
Common sense.

For her to have been worried about Kaguya leaving for the moon and feeling relieved when she discovered that Kaguya isn't planning to leave - despite how much she hates Kaguya in the game - says a lot.

>>9724593
>>9724592

Ah so you're just making this up. Thanks for admitting it.

>>9724598
Common sense and making shit up are different things, my strangely butthurt Watson.

>>9724598
Oh, I didn't know you wanted only literal and direct canon character interpretations.
Are you also against all romantic pairings in Touhou?
Because there's no direct canon indicating any sort of romance between named characters.
Some things can be interpreted that way, sure, like Alice and Marisa sleeping in the same bed in one of IN's endings, but nowhere does it say for any characters "these two are an item".

>>9724592
>the first thing she assumes when people venture into her vicinity is that they were sent as assassins by Kaguya.
What? She always asks what they are doing at night there and only reacts when the others talk about Kaguya.

>>9724600
You're exaggerating it though, Mokou wouldn't be super sad.

>my dear Anon.
>Watson

You're a faggot

>>9724615
I should point out, >>9724592 is not >>9724600.
>>9724613
Mmm, I knew I shouldn't have said something I wasn't positive on. It's been too long since I played IN. My point is still valid, though.

>>9724609

>Are you also against all romantic pairings in Touhou?

Why the fuck did you suddenly bring that up?

>>9724628
Because it is a logical extension of sticking to only direct canon personalities. Why would you allow interpreted relationships but not interpreted personalities?

>>9724644

I don't.

>>9724644

They're not the same

>>9724665
Oh. I thought this thread was based on Keine and Mokou having a romantic relationship, what with the "one true pairing" comments and all.

>>9724679
Understandable, with how gay vivit gray is.

>>9724689
It's canon that Mokou is the only one for Keine.

>>9724679

>Keine and Mokou having a romantic relationship

That's retarded

>>9724679

Keine's already married and had a shitty daughter that looks like her.

Plus Mokou's straight and has probably fucked a guy before.

Agh fuck, I had no idea this thread would get infested with fart-breathing primates this quickly.

>>9724713
lel

>>9724713
Best post in this thread. I was waiting for something like this.

>>9724764
stop praising your own posts.

>>9724764

Better than shitty overused yuri garbage

>>9724770
>mad

>>9724713