/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>9710786
Who is your favorite GoS?

>>9710840
You're s'pposed to write ``Wich GoS wud u fuk''

In the last thread, someone said that poison, venom, and toxic were all the same thing, and you just apply stronger versions depending on how high your ind is and how low your target's res is.

Just how much ind do you need to get toxic? I have Satori's ind at almost 100, and even with Byakuren's ind buff on Satori, and res debuff on enemies, poison art/hand is still only giving me venom.

I just got to stage 17, is poison shield formation simply not obtainable until the post game?

Also, is there any reason why Nitori was the only one who didn't have their unique weapon material requirements reduced in weekend?

In the last thread, someone said that poison, venom, and toxic were all the same thing, and you just apply stronger versions depending on how high your ind is and how low your target's res is.

Just how much ind do you need to get toxic? I have Satori's ind at almost 100, and even with Byakuren's ind buff on Satori, and res debuff on enemies, poison art/hand is still only giving me venom.

I just got to stage 17, is poison shield formation simply not obtainable until the post game?

Also, is there any reason why Nitori was the only one who didn't have her unique weapon material requirements reduced in weekend?

English patched 2.09 download for anyone interested:
http://www.mediafire.com/?7br7trchx39q9

>>9711092
Forgot to mention that I'm trying this on the zero resistance enemies in SDM

>>9711084

Have Byakuren buff her own ind before buffing Satori's ind. Great amplifying scroll might also buff ind, I'm not entirely sure. Sanae also has a party buff that raises the efficiency of buffs but I don't think you'll have it at this point. Make sure that the correct skill trees of satori and byakuren are maxed out. Put yourself in a IND buffing formation and use Youmu's commander skill to lower enemy RES.

I got poison shield pretty early on so it should be possible.

>>9710856
I got the Poison Shield formation immediately after stage eight. Try doing it in Koumakan against the fairy maids. I don't know what the threshold is for poison to venom, but toxic happens when you deal more than five hundred damage per turn with it. Five hundred or less and you'll get venom or poison.
If I heard correctly, it is Nitori and Satori whose unique weapon recipes weren't changed. Everyone else's should be easier.

>>9711092
Try adding some +poison damage items, you should've found a Poison Lily from Forest of Magic.

Can anyone tell me how to unpack the .pak files? Thanks /jp/

>>9711376
.pak? I got five .rar files, which you can extract with winrar or something similar.

>>9711399
I mean the .pak files after you've extracted the actual game. Like the Music.pak or Sound.pak

>>9711404
You don't. You just run the application.
If you're having trouble doing that, try renaming the folder into english.

>>9711429
Yea but i want to extract the music/sounds etc

>>9711429
Oh, but first, unless you're using a gamepad, you need to run the config and set the keys.

>>9711432
I think there's a download with a bunch of .ogg files in the OP's mediafire folder link that will have the OST.

>>9711432
pak files are impossible to extract from.

>>9711432
I downloaded a program last year that extracts many kinds of games files, especially those found in VNs. I don't remember where I got it from exactly, all I remember is that the name of the program is crass. It looks like a chinese guy wrote it and translated his documentation with a machine. You may have to tinker around with it for a bit before you understand how it works.

Does anyone know if Sakuya's Illusion Doll 1, 2, 3 also increase the chance for her regular hits to strike twice, or if it only applies to her skill moves?

God, Eientei is so incredibly well designed. Such an excellent dungeon.

I have the 2.08 version,can't change it to easy mode and i love it

should i download the other one? am i losing something important at 2.09?

>You can also turn on easy mode at any time for non-boss battles where the damage is halved for you and you gain minor offensive bonuses. (Such as increased chance to land status effects)

>>9711432
I have the OST downloaded, give me a second and I'll upload it.

>>9711432
no reverse engineering please

>>9712389
You probably have 2.09. It's got a glitch that makes it look like 2.08.

Note that Weekend's easy mode is optional; you can turn it on and off at any time. However, the huge increases in drop rates and decrease in crafting requirements, and the lack of consequence for death, are not.

I can't seem to get the bosses in Heart to stay silenced. That fucking 15k heal is bullshit. Trying to raise Mokou IND as high as I can for silence procs and use Satori silence.

>>9712607
Colosseo World, mate. Get it up, and keep it up.
Can't rely on debuffs against bosses, anyways. Unless they are specifically weak to it, like mind control on Kaguya.

>>9712628
If using Col world how the hell do you keep yourself alive?

>>9712660
Alice and Marionette spam with Poison Wall formation. Only took one healing right after it wore off once, then put it right back up again.

>>9712628
Stat downs work.

>>9712628
Burn through it with slayers, or berserk Kaguya with lunatic voice.

>>9712683
I had Byakuren with full points in debuffing, her Ind buff, and Sanae's Last word up spamming debuffs and the one time it landed out of a great many, they did their end-of-turn dispel right afterwards.
I find it best to rely on self-buffs instead of enemy debuffs against bosses, since those can't miss.

I've heard people being able to get poison shield before Byakuren. How? Satori just can't get it strong enough.

>>9712607
Just overpower them with Nitori, Marisa and Patchouli. Keep them safe with Alice and buffed with Sanae, remember to take Eirin out first, try to dispel their buffs when possible, and it shouldn't take too long.

>>9712722
When I tried that I ended up running out of mana with Nitori, Sanae, and Patchy when Eirin was still at about fifteen percent, and then Marisa alone couldn't keep up with Kaguya's healing.
That was when I decided to just go full melee and won with Alice, Sakuya, Youmu, Byakuren, and Sanae.
Youmu with Weapon Bless was my primary damage dealer, getting about five hundred from her regular attacks, about a thousand from her Crescent Moon Slash, and fifteen hundred from Spring Wind.
The final blow was struck against Kaguya by Byakuren hitting for fifty-five.

>>9712741
>>9712722
>>9712692

Thanks all for the advice was finally able to beat it. I tried a bunch of different strategies. Ended up using the all melee with accuracy buffs and Alice defending to win the fight. It was significantly easier than trying the debuffing route. I would use Bya control to further buff myself.

How Anasthasis-like to ignore Alice with the -90% physical damage thingy, who was even using Hourai Doll.

Anyway, who's your favorite Gorgon?

What's Aya's role? she's not a heavy damage dealer, also very squishy and her support spells are so so

>>9714348
Turn order manipulation, EVA tanking, making sure your party goes first and breath reflecting.

>>9714358
not very convincing, i prefer to stick with mokou or alice

>>9714372
Use Alice, Sanae and Aya in all random encounters to be 100% safe, those 3 can last forever. Cycle the rest of the party slots to keep all characters high level.

>>9714299
It's hard to pick, Anastasia is Yuugi-tier, and Lithos looks so ridiculous it's on par with Okuu.

Biotopos is a little boring, she didn't even have a bomb move in the final encounter.

>>9714348
>>9714358
Aya is exceptionally good in those fields, sure you can use a Reimu barrier, but Aya's doesn't need a bomb, sure you can use Nitori's stuff to heighten evasion, but Aya is so much better.

However if I need my party to go first, I think I'd just put Aya as my commander, maybe give her a Soul item to boost her bombs. Remember, you're probably going to rely on Aya in the three-way party split and the final encounter.

>>9714299
Lithos is really cute. She's so contrary~
To bad in combat she sucks, except when she's on your team for some reason.

>>9714299
I like Biotopos, her fight was easy but she is cute.

>>9714299
All three are great, and their supporting cast's not bad, either. Shame they aren't canon, aside from Genji.

>>9714830

God i spent like 40 minutes trying to beat her until i realized i could debuff her def and mdef.

Crab Meiling is best.

Has anyone translated the config screen yet?

Just had the oddest victory against Suwako and Kanako. When I beat Suwako, my Alice and Aya were out of bombs so I was expecting to go down to the next Last Word. Everyone except Youmu went down, Youmu dropping really low and activating her Last Word. I went ahead and used it, knowing I was dead either way, and it actually worked! Is Kanako weak against death or was I just really lucky?

>>9715620
Yeah, that's what you party members are talking about in the defeat hints for that boss. [spoiler[Kanako is weak to instant death, Suwako is weak to petrification.[/spoiler]

>>9715620
That fight is actually quite easy. Kanako has a weakness to instant death effects, and Suwako can be petrified, becoming target practice for the rest of the fight. If your induction is good enough, you can take them both out without much difficulty.

>>9715620
Yeah, that's what you party members are talking about in the defeat hints for that boss. Kanako is weak to instant death, Suwako is weak to petrification.

So guys how do I beat all the stages of the final boss? And how should I split my party?

>>9715660
>>9715674

Haha nice, I don't have defeat hints on nor do I usually try permenent effects against bosses. I've been stuck on this duo for at least a week so far, if I hadn't I hadn't gotten lucky with finding the death effect I likely would have spent many more days taking them down.

>>9715725
Looks like I've got a challenge coming up, then.
I'll see if I can beat them without using instant death or petrify.

>>9715610
You mean config.exe? I think it's something like this.
>>9715620
Taking them down without abusing their weakness isn't that hard, either, although I guess Sakuya's Great Maid helped a lot with it. The main thing to be worried about is Expanded Onbashira, which is like a column nuke, so Freefight or Sunshine Lunch are bad ideas.
>>9715720
Trial and error, basically. Just keep trying until you get something that works, and don't forget that:
1. you should kill the second form as fast as possible, if they take nine turns you most likely won't be able to beat the final form
2. if you did well in the second phase, the final form will be weak to the dark element and you'll be able to slay it with Youmu's Doujigiri Yasutsuna or a Kusanagi Sword
3. if the land is maximized for any element but light and dark, she will nuke you, even if it's at the first turn and you had just used Patchouli to reset it

I've run into a brick wall with the gorgon maids. I've been trying on and off all day but just can't get past them.

Mokou and Sakuya turn Akame into a joke.

For Chihiro, I have Nitori, Alice, Sanae, Byakuren, and Youmu. Alice keeps everyone from getting tentacle raped, Nitori puts electric on her attacks and then spams radiate, which usually hits 7-8 times with Sanae's accuracy buffs, Byakuren puts lightning on Youmu who goes to work with her strongest attacks. This usually works well as long as the RNG gods are on my side, and Nitori doesn't get hit with blind/death even through Sanae's res buff, or as long as Chihiro doesn't use acid storm twice in a turn and wipe my entire party even through Alice.

The big problem is Kagami. All her attacks hit like a truck, and Alice is already busy making sure the second team doesn't die. And her insane defense and physical resistances aren't making things any easier. Hitting her as hard as I can with Marisa, Patchy, and Satori, I'm still only able to deal 1500-2000 damage each round.

Everyone is in the high 40s right now.

What do?

>>9716596
Treat Kagami as a real boss. Use Alice, Sanae, etc. Throw up an appropriate barrier when she charges up.

Nitori can wreck Chihiro like Mokou can Akame. Buff her up with appropriate gear to protect her from stuff; put Sanae in the group if you need the RES, and pray. Once you get Kagami's fight down, and get hyper fang crush if you're a completionist, fight Akame first because of the luck involved.

>>9716596
Aya spamming her tree-hiding spellcard can help quite a bit in there. On the offensive side, just spam as many nukes as you can, preferably magic ones that are not earth/elec/fire/water.

>>9716596
>>9716868
I don't remember much, but I fought the maids in the low 40s with highest being Mokou after just learning Fujiyama Volcano.

I used Alice for the chihiro fight and simply used the massive defense buff formation for Kagami, the one that clumps everyone together with Byakuren at the center.

With the defense formation and Byakuren casting PATK down on Kagami, she literally became a joke. I think Reimu was also in that team as well so I was also able to heal pretty easily.

>>9716868
Oh, and Reimu should be in that screenshot.

Guess who's going to die in the very first turn, just like the last four times I encountered a Long Arms Long Legs?

>>9717044
Every. Single. Time.
Screw the fact that I have one of the formations that redirects attacks away from that specific row. What the hell?

>>9717068
Those guys will always, always, always hits the party member with the lowest health. That's what they do.

>>9717044
>>9717068
They always target the character with the lowest HP in your party. For easy times, have Alice cover them and nobody will ever die.

So I have a problem with the english prepatched.
I extracted the .rar's using 7zip in Japanese locale, but when I extracted parts 2, 3, and 4, it gave me a warning(for each .rar file I extracted) that a file was broken. The game starts fine, but when I play through the game, certain sounds are missing completely. Unless the first opening scenes are supposed to be completely silent, I think I have a bit of a problem.

Do I have to extract them a certain way or what?

Did you know that if the enemy uses a piercing attack like Hit and Run and the targeted character deflects it, it won't hit the people behind, either?
So don't put Youmu in the back of a formation.
The more you know...

>>9717196
Maybe you should use Winrar?
I don't know how 7zip works, but if you extract the first part in a multiple-part .rar file winrar will extract them all together, so long as they are in the same location.
Otherwise? Maybe try downloading or extracting again?

>>9717210
Yeah, you may be on to something. 7zip doesn't have multi-part .rar support like you described.

Thanks, I'll try winrar out.

>>9717220
It does. Select all the parts and right click -> extract. Or somehing like that.

>>9717297
Too late, already "borrowed" a copy of winrar and deleted 7zip. The game works fine now! Except there's another problem.

It doesn't start up when I try to run it in applocale, but it will if my computer locale is set to Japanese. How2fix? Is it possible?

Does it have anything to do with "non-unicode applications"?

>>9717325
Try changing the name of the folder its in into English. That's fixed most of the problems in that regard.

>>9717340
didn't work :c
I tried changing the name of the .exe file, too. No dice. What gives?

>>9717367
Eh screw it. I guess I'll just have to change my locale to Japanese during my time playing through this game. Unless someone comes up with a solution I can't say I care too much.

>>9717384
Please don't post that image ever again.

>>9717393
ok anon-kun
don't know what's so bad about it. do you guys just frown upon those kinds of reaction images?

Woohoo! Just beat Kanako and Moriya-sama without using petrify and Instant Death! Final hit was three crits and two regular hits with Youmu's totally OP Slash of Eternity to take out at least a third of Moriya-sama's health bar.
Seriously, goddamnit is that thing awesome.

>>9717384
You may as well keep your locale in Japanese indefinitely, unless you really can't stand having yen signs instead of backslashes.

>>9717422
use something with a touhou and its ok

>>9717384
>>9717456
Just give the image a more feminine face and a weird-looking hat.The idiots in /jp/ won't be able to tell the difference anyways.

>>9717460
Yea man, it's totally impossible to tell Touhous from other lolis.

>>9715720
You need enough punch in the second phase so you can enter third phase perfectly with all relevant buffs already applied. You basically want Youmu to enter third phase with Dark Sword, patk up, manussya up, maybe some additional buffs, and keep covering her while she messes the boss up.
The boss is incredibly ruthless, you don't have many turns to survive. However Youmu's Paschal Moon reflecting slash is somehow capable of hitting 30k+, so you need a few good attacks and it's over. The same applies to the enemy.

>>9718211
So Youmu stays totally awesome, damage-wise, throughout the rest of the game? Because she is wrecking shit for over a thousand per hit on her five hit spellcard right now, without critting, and I've just beaten Kanako and Suwako.

>>9718293
Yeah, she does. The only disadvantage she has is needing a turn to put a stance up, but in the late game that's pretty much a non-issue anyway.

Why is Sanae so fucking ridiculous to beat? Can I get some help?

>>9718793
Just burst dps her down before she can summon or you're fucked. You might want to wait until you have a bigger party before taking her on.

>>9718822
How is it possible to hit 25000 in 1 turn before you get Youmu

My current Party is Reimu, Mokou, Cirno, Lithos, Aya, and Nitori

>>9718830
Try harder, or get better gear, I did it with 4 party members.

>>9718842
I might as well have 4 party members, Cirno sucks.

>>9718793
You don't have much choice other than going completely offensive, if you have Aya, try to rely on her dodgetanking, just so you can have Mokou break out the volcanoes back to back. Taking the summoned gods down is gonna be tough, they have 750 pdef, but no mdef, and you don't have many magical choices.

>>9718793
Nevermind, just beat it. Lithos got her last word and then Aging Drizzle FINALLY worked.

Anon >>9716596
here again

After about 3 more hours of trying, I've still not beaten the gorgon maids. From what I'm seeing, it just looks like this part of the game has abysmally poor design. You have one Alice, but Chihiro and Kagami both require her to mitigate party wiping attacks. It's a cakewalk for whichever party get's Alice, and the other is just at the mercy of the RNG gods. I've tried defense formations with Byakuren's attack debuff in the party without Alice, but even with 146 ind and Byakuren's ind buff applied to herself, I've yet to see attack down trigger on Chihiro or Kagami even once. The only thing I can think of at this point is grind Reimu, my lowest level character at 46, up to 51 so she learns super duplex barrier for the party without Alice. If that doesn't work, I'm just going to delete my save file, 65 hours in, because right now, I feel like the only way to beat this is to win the video game lottery.

>>9719154
...how are you not in the 50's by the end of underlake temple? That's why you're losing, you're underleveled.

Also, use Satori in whichever party doesn't have Alice, Starlight barrier saved me many times from party wipes.

>>9719154

Read a faq. The poison needle bitch dies in 1-2 fujiyama volcanos, so you only need mouko and 1 fodder in the party.

You just need alice for the one with the tentacle attacks.

I give it to you that the blonde gets somewhat hard without any tanks, but use barriers. Yes, you really need super duplex.

>>9719154
Sakuya, Satori, Byakuren and Reimu to cheese through Chihiro with Private Square, with Sakuya buffed with elec damage. Reimu is needed to guard against statuses while 'till Sakuya can PS again. Make sure Sakuya has some RES.

Alice, Sanae and Marisa versus Kagami. The trick is using a buffed Marisa to mystic-damage Kagami down, while guarding everyone with Alice. Marisa'll likely need extra mana.

Kill Akame with whatever's left, it's not like she's difficult

>>9719215
P.S. If you want to see bullshit, wait untill Youmu's re-recruitment.
Yuyuko's spamming high-induction death effects like it's earning her money.

>>9719154
An alternative to stop Maelstrom swirl octopus thing is to have Patchouli turn the land into fire, and equip Nitori and some others with water resistance, and attempt to quickly end the fight with Rage Eight and Lightning Weapon. Make sure to make Nitori the hardest target in the party.

You can do that, cross some fingers, and have Alice against the shellfish. I did this without Super Duplex.

>>9719219
that's why you have instant death prevention and sanae's RES buff, noob

>>9719219
Shinigami formation has 75% instant death protection.
Put some Sanae Res Up on top of that. No problem.

>>9719229
>>9719225
Except it doesn't stop Super Yuyuko, the Harbinger of Death! (She's using the same move she used before getting beaten before, only it's used at random now. RES buffs and death-prevention items don't seem to do anything.)
I admit I'm at a loss here...gotta rethink this.

>>9719154
> I'm just going to delete my save file
Why the fuck would you ever do this?

>>9711432
There was one application for that, I think the name was Jaeder Naub.

>>9719154
It's not poor design, but it IS picky.
Put Alice, Reimu, Marisa, Satori, and Patchy on Kagami, Mokou and...someone else on Akame.
Chihiro is the toughest. What you need to do is realize that Nitori is the only person that needs to survive in that group. Buff her to high heaven, equip her with stuff that blocks whatever you can't buff against, and let her rip. If you can beat Akame without Byakuren, good; she's better at buffing a single person. The rest of the group is really just meatshields; try to keep them alive and hitting the boss as long as you can, but they're really just meatshields.

>>9719154
For Chihiro I mainly relied on Sakuya. Enchant her with lightning and use Private Square to make it so Chihiro can't use Octopus Maelstrom. It's risky because if Sakuya goes down then the rest of her group is going to follow, but if you make it then the other two fights won't be as bad. Kagami because you have Alice to block the attacks for others (And Reimu can nullify her charge attacks), and Akame, as others have said, can be taken down in a few turns if you use Mokou right

>>9720055
But the game does have some genuinely bad choices in it. Introducing new characters at level 1 is my biggest peeve. I know you can just stick them in the commander position, but still, it means that you don't REALLY get a new character until an entire dungeon after they joined you. There's absolutely no reason they couldn't have just made new party members join at the average level of all your current characters.

I also don't think Sanae and Byakuren were handled very well. Until the last couple stages, they've been largely useless outside of boss fights, with the exception of Sanae's res buff being needed against some enemies. But you still have to drag them around with you everywhere, because if they're not leveled when you need them to exploit a boss's gimmick, you're screwed.

Finally beat the maids by the way. Once I got super duplex barrier it was a easy. I don't know how I ended up under leveled for this. I've been full clearing every single area as I go through them with experience boosting accessories. Was the game balanced with the expectation of constantly dying and get kicked back to the overworld, making enemies respawn? I really haven't had any trouble outside of boss fights playing on normal mode.

If you're using both Reimu and Alice on Kagami, which is a good idea, you don't need to grind Reimu to Super Duplex Barrier. Regular Duplex Barrier combined with Alice's Little Legion will do just as well. Hell, considering how durable Alice is, Little Legion alone might be enough with proper gear; the magic charge up is shadow, the physical charge up is slash.

>>9720284
I guess they want you to feel the thrill of learning the new abilities one by one, rather than just load you with a character with 40 unknown abilities. At least they did balance the game so that underleveled character get many times the experience.

It's true that Byakuren was underwhelming for any regular encounters, but Sanae for a while early-midgame had her damage snake whip gimmick that lets her essentially hit all enemies for free since she drains the MP back.

You didn't have trouble with the enemies that can 1-shot most of your team? Petrification, Evolution Breath, ect, or the Angel/Demons with their Divine Barrier?

>>9720284
>Finally beat the maids by the way. Once I got super duplex barrier it was a easy.
See >>9720288. You weren't underleveled.

Sanae's buffs are good in random battles, and gets more so as the game goes on. Byakuren...well, you've got a point there. She needs to be paired with a badass attacker to be good.
They don't really need to be as high-level as the rest of your team, though. Byakuren's usually a handful of levels behind everyone else.

>>9720298
*many
Byakuren was still useful for Death/Petrify on enemy parties along with decent light/dark damage, just that a number of enemies resist them

Has anyone figured out how to get to Akyuu's room with her rotting self and parents in it?

So I got Reisen...how did she even pass game testing? Did the devs know how blatantly overpowered she is?

I started this game last night and it's easily becoming one of my favorite turn-based RPGs. not even cuz of the 2hu. shit's just great mang

>>9720362
Takes forever to get debuffs going, it's like a Youmu with more ramp-up time.
And bosses tend to clear their debuffs.
Oh and you need to get that one specific growth point that prevents Reisen's ability from dispelling debuffs on enemy.

>>9720434
>Takes forever to get debuffs going,
Byakuren.

Just made it past the main game and started Lingering Summer Heat. Is it just me or did they really want to try to make even fights against only two enemies frightening?

>>9720434
Byakuren, Satori, and Reisen herself can set up debuffs quick, I never had many issues with debuffs being cleared before their time in the expansion, and needing to invest points for a character to be good isn't even an issue.
Youmu and Reisen don't even compare. Buffing Youmu just helps Youmu, while debuffing the boss helps the entire party. Reisen's damage also makes Youmu cry.

Reisen is absurdly strong. Anyone who says otherwise is either terrible or hasn't gotten her yet.

>>9721059
It's just you. Your new character is a beast.

Start from the ground up; do the low star quests first, switching to a different quest if one is giving you to much trouble, and go from there. If you didn't learn how to use all the characters in the main game, you better start now.

What to do in the Alice+ Marisa fight? I'll start off by buffing Sakuya's attack and giving her the sword that slays Warriors/Transcendents/Magicians, and have her go to town on Marisa during private square. She usually goes down in turn 3. My method of getting rid of Alice is fill the light gauge up and have Reimu, Byakuren, and Patchouli use their strong Light attacks. But then Alice will spam Alice Guard, and I can't hurt her. What do? My team is Reimu, Byakuren, Sakuya, Sanae, and Patchouli

>>9722680
I think taking Alice out first is recommended because otherwise you'll have to deal with the Straw Doll Kamikaze spam. Maybe you could try debuffing her DEF? No idea if she's vulnerable to that, but since RES is not her strongest point in the main game I doubt it could be in her boss fight either.

>>9722680
>Spam Alice Guard
Huh? Her last word where she turns invulnerable? She even has that move as a boss? She never used it against me, maybe you're somehow triggering it.
Debuffing Alice may not work, she still has an absurdly strong shield with like infinite pdef (Mokou could not get through that, maybe with something that [Ignores shields]).
Kamikaze is not too dangerous, as its damage gets weaker, and Alice is shaving considerable amount off her health off every time.
I ensured a kill by silencing Marisa, and using tank Mokou to cast Xu Fu's Dimension on every party member, leaving Mokou out/last.
You can also silence Alice, but that's a little more difficult.

>>9722911
The turn after you kill Marisa, she'll always start off the turn with Alice Guard if it's not already up.

Also, I FINALLY beat them. Do the character quests get any harder? I have everyone but Satori, Youmu, and Yuugi.

>>9723263
They're not too hard. It's just a matter of updating your strategy since you're mostly revisiting old fights now. Yuugi has a surprising gimmick the first time you fight her, but you should be able to easily figure out a way around it since it's not that complicated (and you could always ask if you're really stuck).
Honestly, I think Yuugi's dungeon is the most annoying thing you're going to have to face. It has some really annoying enemies (think one of those high class demons, except fire based, and spamming moves like Firebird).

Ah, I need to finish this game. I only got to the Tenshi's cloud stage.

>>9723540
Funny. That's about where I lost interest the first time I played. A pity, too; that's a pretty good stage, what with how in melds together with the previous one.

The stage after that can kiss my entire ass, though.

How do I convert my save file? I started this game like last year or something and i'm on 2.06.

I need in depth instructions as my mind has been degenerating ever since I became a NEET.

>>9724320
I don't know about an in-depth, but there's a SaveDataConv.exe in your save folder, and I believe it automatically converts the .sav in the same folder to the latest?

>>9723263
Satori is the easiest one simply because one of Sakuya's weapons has a slayer effect on her entire party.
>>9724495
Yes, that's what you need to do.

where do i find Hijiri without waiting an hour in her temple? I'm currently at Eintei trying to kill kagura and Eirin

>>9724853
Right after you've dealt with Eientei.

God fucking dammit! i was so happy after killing Kaguya after 10000 times trying, but suddenly Eirin uses hourai elixir...

damn...

>>9724982
Sakuya. No-healing field. Starts with a C. I can't check right now because I'm fighting Iku, but I'm sure I'll die some time in the next ten minutes...

>>9724991
Iku is pathetic.

>>9725000
Not when she always stun+Instant Death's Sanae in the very first turn before she can get her Res buff cast, she isn't.

>>9725010
Actually yes, she still is. Have alice Little legion on the first turn, and have Sanae be prepared to resurrect her. Have patchy use that one field move that increases earth and decreases elec, and have Satori use self induced hypnosis. Then annihilate her with Patchy's Diamond cutter and whatever earth move you have on Satori.

>>9724991
Thank you man! i just killed her thank to you

>>9725018
I started doing all of that except Satori for the last few fights. It always ends up with her getting through Sanae's res buff and killing everyone except Alice the next time she uses her shock ability.
What's this "Self-induced Hypnosis"? Do you mean her multi-target sleep-inflicting spell? Or is it a blue mage ability I haven't seen yet?

So this may seem like a dumb question... But how pointless is the +10 stat growth?

>>9725048
I only ever put points in there if I have one or two left over that can't be put somewhere useful.

>>9725010
Reimu's barriers should be able to take care of that, although they alone aren't enough because of Iku's erratic pattern.
Also, Iku's is weaker to Dark than she is to Earth, so you could use that unless her regen is annoying you too much.
>>9725037
It's a self-targetted buff she gets with some points in her eye weapons. It raises her MATK, PATK and IND at the cost of PDEF and MDEF, and I have no idea if they're better than just using a staff.

Put 13 points into Eye (the weapon) It increases her Physical and Magical attack by a lot, at the cost of reducing her physical defense. She dies in one hit anyway so it's not a big deal.

Alternatively, get Sakuya's weapon that slays Dragons, and have your party be Sanae, Alice, Sakuya, Byakuren, Patchouli. Have Byakuren enchant Sakuya's sword with earth, and then buff her attack. Then abuse private squares. Alice should still little legion whenever possible, and Patchouli should still be using the +earth -elec and then Diamond cutter.

>>9725056
It's so much better than using a staff.

What the hell? Iku just fucked Patchy in the ass with Magic Absorbing Staff. Patchy dualcasted Diamond Cutter and now she's completely broke of mana.

Well that was easy as fuck. Tore up Kanako/Suwako without much difficulty, and on the first attempt. Satori even got face smash out of it.
I'm kind of disappointed.

About Iku...
Iku uses both Thunderclap and Mad Thunder, two very nice skills for Satori. You can learn them both much, much latter, but they're really nice skills to have, especially the second one. Take note.

>>9725109
I'll try to bring her in in place of Mokou, since the Instant Death palace spell seems to ignore auto-revive. Which is stupid. And retarded.
My current position is
Alice: fine, like always
Patchy: Ran out of mana about three turns in
Mokou: Out
Sanae: Out of bombs
Marisa: Out
Iku: About fifteen percent to go, poisoned, and summoning Oarfish. Also healing about three hundred per-turn, even after poison damage.

>>9725126
>and summoning Oarfish
She does that?

And what's killing you?

>>9725150
Mostly, it's the occasional Shock effect getting through Sanae's Res buff and the subsequent Instant Death that ignores Auto-Revive. Sanae's got my Pocket Watch, and I don't have any other items that buff defense against Quick effects.

>>9725174
Get an electric runestone. It's just one electric shard. I'm not sure if anti-death gear would help, probably not, but maybe.
Have you tried debuffing her induction? Does induction boost quick effects?

Shamefully, the only consistant way I've found to deal with Iku is what's listed on the wiki; rolling Reimu's barrier with Alice's little legion. I have no idea how I'm going to get mad thunder for Satori with that in mind.

>>9725203
>>9725174
You guys are approaching it wrong, the tactic isn't to "make Sanae survive long enough to get RES buff out." it's making Sanae faster than Iku. Try it, load her up with all your speed accessories or use Aya as commander,

>>9725236
What? No, fuck Sanae buffs for that fight. RES buff isn't reliable enough.

>>9725174
I believe her shock attack ignores resistance, or maybe it's the instant death thing that ignores any kind of resistance if the character got shocked. Either way, Reimu is definitely the safest way to deal with that.
>>9725203
It's pretty simple, actually -- put Satori in the front of Poison Shield, guard everyone in the first turn with Reimu, then just have Alice protect Satori while waiting for Iku to use Mad Thunder, which shouldn't take too long (she always does it in the second turn for me). After that's done, try to beat her as fast as possible, and keep note of when she might use Thunderclap so you don't accidentally copy that instead.

>>9725244
>keep note of when she might use Thunderclap so you don't accidentally copy that instead.
Huh?

>>9725259
I believe she only used that spell under a certain amount of health, of after enough turns have passed.
Also, if you didn't know, you can only copy one skill per battle.

>>9725259
Actually, Satori only needs to get hit with Thunderclap without learning it once. So long as she doesn't learn Thunderclap the first time she's hit with it, she won't replace it with Mad Thunder.
Of course, the same goes for Mad Thunder.

>>9725269
Damn it, why!?
How have I played this game so much and never realized that?

>>9725272
>サンダークラップ 確率33%→40%
I find that pretty difficult, even if you're not playing Weekend.
At least Mad Thunder got boosted to 34% as well in that.

Just beat Iku and got Mad Thunder off her, too.
Poison Shield with Alice in front using Marionette Parrar, Satori using Earth Javelin, Patchy using Cluster Move and Diamond Cutter, Marisa just lasering and sparking, and Sanae keeping everyone alive and keeping Iku poisoned. I stuck Reimu in the Commander spot just for her passive.

Why is Cirno so terrible? Is there even a reason to use her?

>>9725376
She's got that interesting magic/melee mix going for her, so if you're looking for that "5th man" character when it seems you have all your other slots set, Cirno isn't a bad choice.

>>9725376
She's good at making sure Mokou doesn't get a turn I guess

>>9725376
Her instant death attacks are cool. She's just overshadowed by Yuugi, Reisen, and the first expansion character.

>>9723540
>>9723760
That's where I've been for a long time. Think I may cave in and synth weapons for the first time so I can just plow through it.

>>9725692
You've gotten all the way there without synthesizing anything? Not even Sakuya's badass Zweihanders?

Ugh. All that stands between me and the shittiest level in the game is Tenshi.
I don't want to do Forest of Magic 2 again, /jp/. I really don't.

The sea of clouds is packed with UFOs, but Nue's nowhere to be found. How disappointing.

>>9726057
Why not? I just beat it again recently and I don't remember there being anything especially annoying about it. The enemies are assholes that like to hit everyone (which means Alice can be helpful) and the final puzzle is annoying if you want to explore it (although it can be solved instantly if you go on the bottom pipe firsthand), but then again the whole game is packed with assholery.

>>9726152
I don't know, I just hate it so much. There's just nothing fun about that shithole, besides the boss.
Maybe it's how unnecessary it is. Hey, the villains have finally shown themselves, and we know where their base is! Let's go dick around in the woods for awhile and fight random bullshit that didn't make it in to the good stages.
Hell, it COULD have been good! It's right before the endgame, so let's have something to increase the stakes. It's just another section of the forest of magic, so let's have stuff appropriate to that stage go on a mist-induced frenzy! But no, fuck that, here's some eye things and unicorns and greek-looking guys that should really be hanging out with the big bads but got lost on the way.

>but then again the whole game is packed with assholery.
Nah. If it was I wouldn't play it.

>>9726194
Screw Spartoy. Screw them so much. You can barely hurt them unless you have Earth, and since they're so fast and spam whole party moves, Patchouli's not likely to survive long enough to get anything off. I don't think I've ever seen an enemy piss me off so much.

Oh wait, now I remember. The upgraded DoD mines. Now those were some real bastards.

>>9726331
>DoD
That made me remember those tanks. Oh god those fucking tanks. Spartois are manageable enough if you have Alice spamming her Parrar every turn like what she always does, as well as every magic user spamming magic as much as they can, but those tanks? The only way to reliably take them out is with Cirno's ice nuke (and maybe a chaser), but your magic users will rarely be faster than them. And even then, the nuke is single-target, and they often like to spawn in groups of two or three.

It seems that people getting stuck on (or rather, dropping the game at) Tenshi's level is a common occurrence. Applies to me too.

>>9726455
Level up your autism.

>>9726455
It's not as tough as it seems. Don't overthink it.

>>9726511
I'm not saying it's tough at all, but rather that people simply lose interest for some reason.

>>9726569
Oh.
...please don't drop the game.

I'd guess the overall tepidness of youkai mountain might have something to do with that.

>>9726591

those fucking long arm long legs

>>9726455
Wait till you have to split your party into 3 groups.

>>9726649
Oh, I'm eagerly waiting to tackle that again.

played this a lot a few months ago; kind of dropped the game at Forest of Magic 2 since killing generic monsters while trying to keep everyone similarly leveled was starting to feel like a nightmare

any tips on continuing?

>>9726684
There's not many tips for that. Just switch people in and out. Use people's big attacks more often, then switch them out for fresh fighters as you go.

It's hard to encourage you to keep playing when we're talking about that god-awful stage.

>>9726684
Isn't that the place were those harpies which call for help show up? Grind them for massive power gain quickly.

>>9726402
Speaking of that game...uh... I never found Yorihime(the moon sister with the sword). Where exactly is she supposed to be? I finished all three towers again and I've yet to see her.

>>9726812
She's somewhere in the fourth (expansion) stratum. Don't really remember where, though.
Or maybe I only got her sister and never found her. No idea.

>>9727118
Found her eventually by looking at the trailer. She was in the dungeon before the first expansion tower, down a ladder at the bottom of the sewer. I'm confused as to how I missed that ladder previously, I'm wondering if it's unlocked by some plot trigger.

>>9725727
Yep. Been using death Sakuya. That's about to change though.

holy shit nitori's armors are good. Time to grind some rocks

Even if she's such a letdown, I still like fighting Tenshi. I wish she was playable.

Also, I will never get bored of the villain's theme. So snazzy.

Wish I could say the same about the music for forest of magic 2. What the fuck is this supposed to be?

What is the point of petro cloud? What makes it better than petro breath?

>>9728279
Music for masochists.

>>9728572
DUHDADODADODODODU
Masochists have shitty taste.

>>9728265
Villain's theme? Which song are you talking about?

>>9728620
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ7Q_STu0f4

that one?

Also does anyone know if the guy who did the music for this game has any other works?

>>9728651
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ7Q_STu0f4
No, this.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItCh_fxJJow&t=0m28s

>>9728683
Huh? That one?
What's wrong with it?

>>9728686
But didn't he say he liked it?

>>9728692
Never mind, just mixed up two different discussions.

>>9728683
As far as the cutscene themes go I prefer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOIa1PmQbXQ
I especially love the 3rd rendition, and how it plays on the fake final bosses that pretend to be the ones behind the incident.

>>9728279
It's Selene's Light, a Marisa-exclusive PC-98 song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4tTdu01z5U

It was much more badass in Touhou Soccer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj6qrpJ_x00

>>9728700
Those are nice, but don't match the out-of-nowhere menace/intrigue of the villain's theme.

>>9728700
Heh, I liked that as well, it was pretty neat, though too bad the last variation only played twice.They did the same thing for DoD, with three different variations on the same theme for bosses of different importance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXz__HINESw

>>9728651
I couldn't find anything about who composed the music on Strawberry Bose's site, but regardless, Touhou Soccer, Defiant of Shrine Maiden, and Devil of Decline have some great soundtracks. The latter's expansion pack's good for PC98 themes too.

>>9728706
....That's what it was supposed to be all along?! I thought someone just took too much acid and fell on a keyboard.
Though that reminds that I like the use of Legendary Fish in the Genbu Ravine/Lake. Pretty appropriate association what with the whole fish thing.

>>9728651
http://kikk.uunyan.com/p2.htm

>>9728706
That's weird, I've heard this song before but I didn't really associate it with the Forest of Magic 2 theme, and even now I can't really hear it. I could tell just fine with all the other themes.

>>9728834
Ah hell looks like it's all vocaloid. Thanks anyways.

Oh well, picked up the game again, I guess.

And down goes Iku. Poor Alice, your repeated sacrifices won't be forgotten.

>>9729060
Do yourself a favor and go get poison shield. It's amazing.

>>9729077
Something poisonous soon coming up?

>>9729081
No, it's just generally the best formation for Parrar spam and Bosses, in my opinion.

>>9729081
No. The poision resistant part isn't the important thing.
The person in front gets targeted almost all the time, gets defense bonuses, and everyone in back is all in one row, meaning Alice can marroinate parrar them them all. It's simple and extremely effective defense.

>>9729094
Also, with Post-defend and Parrar /always/ going first, you essentially halve all damage Alice takes. I can't remember the last time Alice died while in Poison Shield.

>>9729094
Oh, but I don't have such a formation yet.

>>9729103
Go to SDM with Satori and some all the poison damage up and IND up items you can. Try to kill something with Toxic. That's more than five-hundred damage per tic on a poison effect.

>>9729107
After you've done that, go to the circle in Kazami's flower patch with Alice in your team.

>>9729103
It's been available for awhile. Kill an enemy, anywhere, with toxic, then go to the garden of the sun healing circle. I think you might need Alice in the party.
Toxic is the third stage of poison, when it does well over 500 damage per tick. Stack induction and poision-boosting gear and power on Satori, have Byakuren boost her induction, and hit something weak with poison art.

Did anyone find out if Sakuya's Illusion Doll growths (increases chance of getting high amount of hits with multiple-hit attacks) apply to her regular hits when she also has Double Attack?

Gonna fight the forest of magic two boss. I don't remember if it's got anything worth learning...didn't ite have some giant light/dark attack? Wiki doesn't say anything about it.

>>9729115
I can't seem to get my poison skills stack more than once. What gives?

>>9729212
It doesn't 'stack' as such. If a poison skill lands with impressive IND and + Extra Poison Damage on a low RES monster, the poison upgrades itself into venom, or the next level: Toxic.

Ah...what exactly uses leaf shield again? I remember it was a fairy in a specific formation, but nothing beyond that.

>>9729131
Neutral Breath

I didn't bother though, like most other things it can be gotten in expansion and it's not good. I supposed Hyper Fang Crush is still the only lost forever in Weekend, except now with much higher learning rate?

>>9729231
Yes, I think it was near the end of stage 8 in a formation with a lot of enemies, and a fairy uses it. If it's the right one it will always use it first turn I think.

>>9729242
Found it. The sword fairy in a formation of there different melee fairies and a basalisk uses it sometimes.
Of course, I finally get the bitch to cast it on Satori and I notice she's level 39. See pic.

>>9729077
>>9729212
>>9729219
Yay. I got it!

Which moves are actually worth the 6 slots for Satori? Right now I have Self-Induced Hypnosis, Holy. Shadow Flare, Starlight Barrier, Mind Blast, and Mass Heal.

>>9729288
Mass heal is garbage. Get area heal. And if you're in the post-game, get meteor.
That's quite a question. It depends on what you want her to do. I switch her skills in and out a lot to cover whatever the party she's in can't.

>>9729306
How is Mass Heal worse than area heal?
And I want my satori to be a burst mage, hitting things hard and fast, which is what Holy and Shadow flare are for. Starlight barrier just cause it's always useful to have, and Mass Heal for some utility.

>>9729266

Hm... I managed to get 500 dmg per turn with poison but it didn't get upgraded to Toxic, just Venom. My Satori is just level 24, though, so that might explain it.

>>9729329
Mass heal costs more, heals less, and has a fucking four turn cooldown. I think it takes longer to cast too, but I'm not sure.
If you want damage from Satori, again get meteor, and mad thunder, flare, and maybe medoroa.

>>9729367
Yeah, it's sketchy what the game calls toxic and not.
Get more ind. Use an induction formation, get the green eye, move her power around, give her Sanae's all-stats up. I think I first got toxic on one of those little angel guys in SDM.

>>9729371
Holy shit Meteor has a high MP cost that I am unwilling to pay. It's not like she has Patchy's stupidly high mana reserves.

>>9729389
It's not something to be spammed, for sure.
But it's fucking Meteor. You cannot pass up meteor in one of these old-fashioned RPGs.

>>9729288
Also, are starlight/dark web any good?

>>9729386

Finally got it, thanks.

We should probably put together a short series of things to keep in mind for new players.
If you're having problems running the game, try renaming the folder into English.
Growth point abilities that give an increase like Patk +10 don't stack, it only takes the highest one into account.

Stuff like that.

>>9729452
I think reading the manual, and perhaps the "gameplay" section in the wiki is ample information. (And still leaves some things to be experimented and found out)
The folder naming is already mentioned in the OP.

>>9729452
>Growth point abilities that give an increase like Patk +10 don't stack, it only takes the highest one into account.

Fuck.
I knew it was too good to be true, oh well.

God I wish Satori could learn the enemy buffs. Like hyper weapon and all that.

Just a bit more information on that Iku fight. When she summoned Giant Oarfish, one of the attacks they used was Tsunami, and they used it pretty often. I don't know how long it will be until you can ordinarily learn it, but if you would prefer Satori learn that over Mad Thunder, then you should try to prolong the fight. She started summoning them after quite a few turns.

>>9729553
You fight those same oarfish all over the stage. They aren't unique to that fight.
I'm surprised you didn't notice the thunder breath spam.

>>9729553
When I fought Iku she didn't use mad thunder once. fffffffuck. ...Though Sanae res buff was able to keep anyone from dying till the entire time so I guess the odds were generally stupid there. That or she doesn't use it with max earth land.

>>9729586
I've fought them a bunch, but I've never seen them use Tsunami before outside that fight with Iku, where they pretty much spammed it.

>>9729627
And now I'm stuck in Bhava-agra part 2. Anyone know how to open this electric gate? And where this gold key I have is supposed to go?

>>9729634
Before you do this, clear out the two side-sections.
Hit both switches you can reach, so you're in the bottom of that left area and electric fences are blocking you from the entrance. then take one of the paths back to stage 13 and loop back around past Iku. The fence should be open.

>>9729627
They do. It fucked me over more than once, when I was focusing all my defense on thunder.

>>9729645
Ah. I had been all the way through before, but I didn't have the switches flipped. I had tried both of them individually, but didn't think of having them both flipped at once. Thanks.

Ok, what the fuck. Satori's 40, has 25 points in learning, got leaf shield on her, and she didn't learn it. What the fuck?

>>9729723
That only brings it up to either thirty or fourty-five percent chance in Weekend, depending on what it's base percentage is.

>>9729733
The base chance is 50% percent.

>>9729754
That can't be true, or she would have a 150% chance to learn it. I thought Weekend raised learn chances from the one and two percent range into the ten and fifteen percent range...

>>9729723
I had similar problems. It has to be this specific enemy group. Yes, really.
The sword fairy up top is the one that casts it, and there used to be a cockatrice in that empty spot.

>>9729762
Nevermind, I just checked. That still can't be right, unless your Satori isn't on level fourty yet.

>>9729762
...all skills have different learning changes.
Support skills (heals, buffs, etc) that you need to charm or control for have very high learning rates.

>>9729762
...all skills have different learning chances.
Support skills (heals, buffs, etc) that you need to charm or control for have very high learning rates.

>>9729767
Are you fucking kidding me?

Just got this now.

Well that's a bit unsettling.

>>9729812
Well. Huh.

>>9729812
Creepy.

Does Meiling not give a formation anymore in weekend? Sakuya's been posing at her for awhile now.

>>9729812

>>9710840
Youmu very solid, very strong and very versatile.

Not to mention a self-target Status Heal and HP Heal.

>>9729949

She's also cute as fuck.
What Stance do you use? I'm using Asura and it's great.

>>9729966
Manussya is king.

>>9729983
yeah, those crits

>>9729884
She still does, just keep stabbing her until she gives up. I believe the exact amount of stabbing is 256 times.

By the way, since you guys mentioned music, my favorite tracks in both GoS and DoD are their versions of OUT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJyYZJ-aLoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Y77Y7y1jA
That music alone makes me want to try other Hachikuma RPGs.

>>9730022
God that song is so good. I love how it just bursts after 20 seconds; it sounds like whoever you're about to fight should say some dramatic pre-battle stuff right there.

Asura and Manussya stances are both great, but what about Deva? I've never used it, but it looks tank-like. Can Youmu tank?

>>9730127

With Deva, I guess so. But why wouldn't you use Alice instead? Youmu's main charms are her critical chance and high PATK, using Deva looks like a waste to me.

>>9730186
Hell, I don't know. Variety? Options?

Youmu would be a pretty good tank if you were sure that the enemy won't use any magical attacks, especially if you get that twenty-fifth point in Manussya, since she gets a pretty good chance to deflect physical attacks and almost always counters deflected attacks.
It would help with area affect physicals, too. If a physical attack that isn't specifically [multi-target], but instead [pierce], [wide pierce], [small area], or [wide area] will target a character, and if that character deflects it, nobody else gets hit, either.

>>9730532
Deva stance skills cut magic attack and defense, and she's got that one skill that boosts her elemental resistances.
How would she actually protect the party, though? At least Mokou's got reraise stuff; what's Youmu got?

>>9730616

>>9730616

>>9730609
Haven't thought about that yet. I'm not very far in right now, anyways. Still fighting Tenshi. It's just an idea I've had for a while, but never felt like trying out.

>>9730622

Why am I so bad at posting lots of images.

>>9730629
One thing to try is only posting it once.

>>9730632
What?

>>9730638
Yea.

>>9730629
You could just use autodump

Fine. There. God.

I love this scene.

>>9730652
You could also have put them all together as one image.
Only takes about seventy hours in mspaint.

>>9730659
I'm not sure why I didn't think of that. Probably would have been to big or something.

>>9730665
It wouldn't have been.

>>9730665
>>9730714
Where can I find the resolution limits for each board? Sage for off-topic.

>>9731082
Best level.

>>9729452
>Growth point abilities that give an increase like Patk +10 don't stack
MOTHERFUCKER

>>9731337
>>9729452
>However, if another tree boosts the same stat (this often happens with weapon trees), both bonuses will apply
Ahh, phew, thank God. I got worried.

>>9731357
Oh, hell. I was sure that it was the opposite, but I just checked again with Sakuya and now I have to entirely rearrange how I allocate my growth points.
I want to be happy, but I can't help but be frustrate that Sakuya could have had at least fourty-five more Patk this whole time.

>>9731337
>>9729543
Only if they're in the same tree. Different tree stats do stack.

I know what weapons are worth crafting, but what about armor?

>>9733008
Get the big shields. Not the ones for specific for this or that element, the ruby/platinum/etc ones. They're very strong, can block just about everything, and you're not going to use pretty mirrors for much else anyway.

Character armors mostly aren't that great, and you're better off using the character-specific materials for weapons in most cases. If you aren't getting their weapons much, though, go for it.
Satori's robes are an exception to this. Get them; they've got lots of induction. The higher-level elemental robes aren't bad either, just for the damage boosts.

>>9733008
Check the wiki. Generally tier two stuff is good and cheap for some characters. It's all about the special effects. Off the top of my head nitori, sakuya, patchy, and youmu have good ones... Actually just check this post: http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/8911857/#8944021

Only thing I don't agree with is Sanae's armor

What kind of status effect is instant death?

>>9733087
Permanent

>>9733087
Quick

>>9733089
>>9733091

>>9733099
It's really permanent, quick effects are like daze and frozen, they wear off after 1 turn, death doesn't wear off after a turn.

>>9733087
>>9733089
>>9733091
>>9733099
Pretty sure instant death is permanent.

>>9733107
I'm pretty sure its a quick effect.

>>9733115
No, shut up. It's permanent, PERIOD.

>>9733124
Quick.

Quick effects are things that don't last any time at all.
Stun and the like simply change their action that turn to idle.
Instant death changes their state to dead.
Its a quick effect.

>>9733124
http://www26.atwiki.jp/touhou_souzin/pages/74.html
The wiki goes into it a bit.
！マークのアイコンがクイック。
即死系は「その場で死亡する」という効果なのでパーマネントではなくクイ
ックである。

>>9733141
And what's that say? Is it trustworthy?

>>9733152
It says its a quick effect and not a permanent. Instant death has been a quick effect even before this game came out.

>>9733156
>Instant death has been a quick effect even before this game came out.
...what?

Does Satori get an MP-draining attacks? She's always running dry so fast.

>>9733169
I was mostly talking about Hadikise when I said that. These two games are very similar. I had to equip quick accessories to stop a lot of enemies from instant killing me.

Damn, these guys are right, it really is a quick effect. Used Reimu's barrier and cast Evil Eye on my own party.

Oh, that was just perfect. I met a Yukkuri Sisters, but didn't have Illusionary Dominance up, so I had to just line up a set of attacks and hope they wouldn't run before I killed them, and what happens?
Youmu gets first move with Yukkuri Slash and double casts it for a first move kill.

Would poison be a variety effect?

>>9733295
No, it's a permanent. If it fills the slot on the far left, then it's permanent. Anything that fills any of the other slots is variety. Anything that doesn't show up in either is quick.

>>9733302
Thanks.

How can i get toxic with Satori? she's lvl 30 and only infect with venom using her poison art

>>9733317
If you have Byakuren, use her IND buff. Get your hands on some kind of Poison Damage +% items like Poison Doll Arm and such.
And do it on the fairies in SDM.

>>9733177
I've heard of that game. Someone said it's pretty much GoS except not Touhou. I was interested in it but searching for it was pretty fruitless on both youtube and niconico (kept getting unrelated results). Could you link a video or a picture?

>>9733317
>>9733320
Byakuren's 25 point scroll buff will stack with that I think. Also satori's green eye? Obviously stack her with int+ items

>>9733326
*ind+

>>9733320
Do this. Get as much induction on Satori as you can. You should have an induction formation by now, and there's several commander spells that boost it or cut enemy resistance.

>>9733320
>>9733326
>>9733329
>>9733330
thank you

>>9733336
Now we are talking

>>9733325
Try searching for はぢきせ. It turned up a lot of results for me.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/28696744

Oh, god. I think I'm just gonna keep killing until Konpaku Flash activates. This is just too perfect.

>>9733416
Hmm...
Ganbatte, Aya-san!
Please get back up, Moko-tan?

So, I've been using satori a bit, and I wish to bump her damage up a bit. Is it better to use one of her last Eye weapons and the buff or simply give a staff?
Also, is it worth getting Mad Thunder/Thunderclap, Holy, Flare and Meteor for her? I've been using Hypnosis, Tornado, Acid Storm, Area Heal, Enervation and Shining Stars
If they are, I'm guessing Holy and Flare I can get from that ultra-flayer subquest, and which one and where should I get the Thunder spell?

>>9733474
Mokou... didn't get back up. I think I need to be more prepared for that particular farming session. They couldn't damage Mokou while she had Sanae's Def buff, but Sanae ran out of mana before Konpaku Flash went off, then they just tore right through everyone's health.
I need Sanae set up for aoe mp regen so I can keep her mp up.

>>9733406
Ah, so that's what is it! Thanks a lot for that. I guess I must have made a mistake while trying to type the title. Looks like pretty similar to DoSM too! Hachikuma's monster designs and OCs are all over the place it seems.
Hm, can't repay you, so here's all the versions of OUT that preceded the GoS and DoD ones:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10839536

Just used Last spring wind with Youmu, she was the last one alive. It went off twice, both being criticals.
Fucking Manyussa, man.

>>9733501
Give her a staff if you're going to use magic. The Terralightning/Rivalry Staff/Holy Grail/Gambanteinn will do wonders on her.

Mad Thunder, Holy and Shadow Flare are worth getting, yes. But as for Thunderclap, Flare and Meteor, these spells aren't really that strong.

>>9733625
Wow, how did you deal that much damage? Byakuren buffs and what else?

>>9733649
453 MATK, Holy, Holy Grail and light land at max.

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>>9733852