/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>9634071
Just a reminder of my request.

FIRST

>>9634082
Whoops, I meant this.

>>9633628

Not mine but I believe it should go here.

>>9634094
That is awful, christ.

Who is the guy starting these threads? It seems like he posts only the OP picture and nothing more.

>>9634241
Well, it's better than nothing.

i am making another arch /jp/

>>9634241
Why do you want to know anon?

>>9634310
XFCE is cute as hell.

But... スタート?

>>9634316

I just wanted to know who he is. I don't recognize his style in anything else that is posted

I want someone to draw Reisen in a cute plugsuit for me, but I don't think anyone will pick it up.

Lunasa x Flan drawing I did, kinda sketchy

>>9634336
this looks traced

>>9634333
What's a plugsuit?

>>9634328

>>9634378
Either the suits the pilots wear in Evangelion, or some kind of BDSM fetish thing.

>>9634399
The Evangelion thing, yes.

Lewd stuff is terrible!

>>9634336
>>9634347
*rustles dick*

Took the opportunity to redesign a character of mine. I still can't do hands or feet correctly. Time for colors!

>>9634404
Out.

>>9634471
Her grin is just silly.

>>9634471

Not-Leonmitchell

Can someone draw me meido wearing an opened dress shirt showing off a classy black laced bra and panties while drinking tea?

>>9634471
Hey is that Worst-princess?

>>9634737
Thats very cute anon I love your art

>>9634737
I love your chibi style.

eyelashes are supposed to be darker than the haircolor regardless of how bright it is

>>9634737
何を貝ているか?
what? 買?

>>9634813
Actually I think I get what it was trying to say. It's stupid.

>>9634813
見ている
ur dum

>>9634813

いええ、「何を見ているか？」と。

Meiling's dad on a trip to Madagascar

>>9634829
>>9634835
More like he can't write.

>>9634499
u mad bro?

>>9634852

More like it was obviously handwritten you should know by context 貝て isn't a conjunction

>>9634847
epic

>>9634861
Which is why I was confused. Lern to rite.

>>9634847
I love it.

>>9634875
Why are you telling me? if you know it's not a conjunction you should have known what it meant this is your problem for not reading properly

>>9634883
>if you know it's not a conjunction you should have known what character he intended to, but did not write

>>9634875
>>9634887
What that other anon says is right. You should know immediately that it's 見 and not 貝. I mean, what else could it be? Or are you the type of person who purposely interprets homonyms incorrectly in obvious context?

I've finished!
Who should I draw next?

Editor here. I'm having a bit of difficulty drawing straight or smooth lines in Photoshop with my tablet. I seem to remember there being a feature in SAI that automatically made your lines look neater though. Should I be using another program for my inking that does that sort of vector correction?

>>9634895
Okuu!

>>9634898
I will draw Okuu!
I will return, eventually.

>>9634892

If you have a problem telling 見 apart from 貝 then you have bigger problems coming when learning to read japanese handwriting

>>9634895
Kogasa or Wriggle dressed as Jiminy Cricket.

>>9634905
I'll try to do that too!
I will write down all of these, I won't forget.

>>9634904
I'm not the one with a contextual problem, the anon I'm quoting is. When people start scribbling the radicals under various kanji starting with 广(魔,麻,磨, etc.,)expecting you to pick the right one from context, he's going to have one hell of a time.

>>9634915

Excuse me but, that's 90% of japanese.
When handwritten, some radicals become indecipherable.
You can only tell through context by looking at the whole sentence.
Same with spoken Japanese, you'll get the hang of it.

>>9634923
Yes, but I know this already. Am I giving off the air that I am >>9634813 or something?

What programs do you guys use? Besides Sai, Paint, and adobe products of course.

>>9634936
Illust studio.

>>9634333
Things I like do include both Reisen and plugsuits, so let's fly to the moon~

Did this the other day, I guess it counts as OC.

>>9634965
Is that a cutout from a white sticker?
Will you make me one if I give you money?

>>9634963
I like it.

>>9635008
It's just contact paper. It's pretty easy to do yourself, just find a good picture, make an outline with PS and print it on the back. Then just cut it out with an Xacto knife/scissors. You'll want to rub the back of the contact paper with some sandpaper or steel wool before printing, it's got a waxy coat on it that will smear the ink.

>>9635043
Oh, that's how I did my laptop stencil too. Picked the one winged eagle logo from umineko since it was nice and subtle for power suppression.
I'm really surprised it has remained solid up there for 3 years now.

I don't care how discrete it is, I don't stick shit on my laptop.

>>9634963
dayum shame

I started learning how to edit film footage
Currently trying to make a music video for the only song I've completed
Spent most of the last few days learning how to use AE to animate my PS documents

youtube.com/watch?v=SnfxEk3jp3U

>>9636335
Cool autotune you've got there.

>>9636424
Melodyne actually, which may be a type of autotune, I don't know. I do know that I can't sing so that was my only way around making the song do what I wanted.

>>9636578
I'm sorry if I came across as rude, that was not my intention.

I have a great dislike for auto-tuned songs and in my opinion your song would do better as an instrumental, I liked it up until the singing started.

Keep at it.

>>9635722
Is Patchy falling? Has she fallen? What is happening?

>>9636880
>>9634525
Yogurt if you can draw me my request in your style I dont know what to say!

I started looking into some music theory.

God, this shit is fucking hard.

Also, is there even a point trying to learn music if I don't have access to any instruments?

>>9636880
That's a lovely nobuna.

>>9637184
Your DAW is your instrument.

>>9637184
There are many people who make music without touching an actual real instrument. Even though most of it is based with software, it helps to have a midi controller such as a piano.

>>9637184
Boy oh boy,

Welcome to to the wonderful world of pok... music.
It's the same thing, million and 1 things to remember to be the best.

You should learn piano alongside theory to get the best experience. The only point to learn theory outside of performance is composition.
If you don't want to invest any money, better start singing then, that works too. I advise against using your computer keyboard as a piano, it'll confuse you later.

For rhythm, clapping, whacking a bin with a stick is good practice.

I could go on and on, but in short, yes pick up and instrument and learn both alongside each other, whatever instrument is fine.

>>9637233
>>9637228
Yes that's fine and dandy, but spending the time to learn a real instrument will speed things up for him in the long run, I promise.

Its like drawing without studying basic shapes and anatomy first, sure you can do it, but you'll be better off learning those first.

>>9637246
Can't afford shit, captain.
>>9637228
>>9637233
It's just... I installed FL Studio, played around with it for a bit, and it's not all that bad, but... It just feels like if I got started with it I'd have trouble later on, you know?

Hey /jp/, will I be able to make vocaloid songs and denpa stuff just with a synth?

>>9637316
Well if youre adamant about not investing any money then do it the cheap way, FL studio uses the keyboard like a piano, it's not too different, even though I said against it, it will give you an idea of INTERVALS which are the distance between notes, how they change the way music sounds and form chords.

There is no true best way, it all depends on what you want to do with music, but more importantly that you enjoy it and make stuff you want to make. If you have a logical mind it will come to you naturally, music and math go hand in hand.

>>9637282
Do you know how synths work? presets only offer so much and you'll get frustrated with the lack of variation fast. Unless you can work your way around said snyth and create your own unique sounds then Id advise against limiting yourself.

>>9637316
You'll need a mic first

>>9637350
Actually I do have plenty of money and I can afford expensive stuff, but I just don't have the slightest idea of how am I supposed to compose music. Where to start, which programs to use, which synth to buy, etc. ;_;

>>9637357
Why?

Any requests for drawing?

>>9637358
You can then edit the audio to sound like a Vocaloid.

>>9637363
homu homu

>>9637369
Roger

I'll be back later

>>9637358
Well if you want to speed things up to get to the point where you can compose cool music then you need to do what I said originally. Actually playing and listening to music gives you ideas to create your own music.
If you want to just get straight into making music look up FL's tutorials on youtube and just copy what they do, learn by integration.

On avg I play for around an hour a day on the piano, and listen to music whenever I can, 8+ hours a day when not working.

>>9637362
>>9637358
Yeah, FL studio has a plugin called Vocodex, have a look for it, it alters voice to sound like robots, thought its still limited. I havent figured out how to be the little girl yet, You need a naturally feminine voice to make it easier.

To keep this thread on track here's a piece I wrote sometime earlier this year, nothing amazing, but it was done in FL studio with ONE sample. Keep things simple and you can still make alright music.
http://soundcloud.com/user9072307/guy-sipping-wine-in-castle

>>9637369
>>9637372
>>>/a/

>>9637394
homu homu homu (no)

>>9637363
Orin sleeping in the sun.

If you want to draw something, draw Hieda no Akyuu and Yuuka.

Just talking is fine.

Holding hands/embracing/flirting is good.

Kissing is great.

Still not nearly enough fanart of this paring ;_;

>>9637545
Maybe because it doesn't make any goddamn sense?

>>9637554
Your face doesn't make any goddamn sense.

>>9637545
>>9637566
Are both of these original?
Because if not, stop bumping the stupid thread you shitty faggots.

>>9637554
Only one of these guys is posting image replies, and he's the one who's not saging.

>>9637647
YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THEIR LOVE.

Beginner drawer here again. I'm looking for more criticism. This picture was drawn without any reference and I wanted to make my first drawing with some basic, stylized facial features. I wanted to make this drawing a female Marisa, but it just ended up looking like a teenaged boy so this is Marisa if she was a 16 year old teenaged boy (the cigar means he's rebelling!)

Criticism is much appreciated.

>>9637942

Oh and that smudged on her left eye is not intentional, it is a smudge that would not erase.

>>9637942
I want you to look at your picture for a second.
And I don't mean this as an insult in any way- Do you really think drawing without reference is a good idea.

>>9637953

Well if I reference, then I just end up copying it. I learned quite a bit drawing this. I'm quite proud of how my picture turned out.

>>9637942
It's literally perfect

There's nothing you can do to make this any better

>>9637966
The point of a reference is to copy it. And I'm not sure what you learned you're so proud of, but I guarantee you would have learned more if you copied some anatomy instead.

So is delving into fanfiction a bad idea if I've been writing OC works exclusively? I feel like it could be fun, since I have a plethora of characters to use.

>>9637942
Draw Reimu.

>>9638244

Write a Mary Sue slashfic about the daughter of Marisa!

>>9638244
No one likes OC in other's works.

>>9638266
That's the idea, I'm wanting to try and write when it isn't my character.

>>9638264
What?

>>9637942
draw me ZUN!bar picking up Saten at a bar

>>9638262

When I feel like it.

>>9638291

Too advanced.

>>9638271

Marisa and Reimu have a baby, that's a master of Danmaku and Master Spark, trained by Yukari she saves Gensokyo from the Sith invasion

>>9638342
I love it.

They just played my song on the radio
I feel like throwing up

>>9638447
Which radio? Why do you feel like throwing up anon?

>>9638459
She probably has an allergic reaction to radios.

Made our temporary Janitor into a cute character.(It's not very good but I think it's cute)

Here you go, should i colour it?

>>9639536
>From sent from

Autistic bitch Jani

gossun gossun

>>9640436
Every time I'm trying to draw a sword or some pole, that aren't absolutely parallel to the image, something like this broom happens. I have no idea how to evade it. Even the slightest flaw looks too noticeable.

>>9640470
draw a line that perforates ortogonally a square, do it so you can see the line on both sides, then check if the square plane and the line are perfectly ortogonal. If they are erase the part you don't want of the line nad modify your square to whathever other plane you want. This you are asking is more of a geometry concept than a anatomy, shading, etc... issue, so it's somewhat hard to describe.

>>9640436
Very epic

>>9640436
is cute, would fuq

>>9640436
Anorectic legs are a miracle of the universe.

Please don't ever start drawing them fat.

>>9640616
Is this sarcasm? I really can't tell.

>>9640530
>>9640470
Made a lazy picture for you, you should try drawing the plane and then making the 3 axis at the side if you want to practice this. I did it here, you can see the axis in purple and the plane + the lines in red

>>9640470
Eh? My the brooms in my home are actually curved like this for sweeping.

>>9640436
That art style is familiar

>>9640625
Absolutely not.

I fucking love them.

>>9634965
>X-wing missing one of the guns
Haha those fucking things, I lost 3/4 by the end. Great toy though.

>>9640644
yeah generally push brooms are like that.

>>9640761
I lost all four of them.
...actually, that was my brother's. I had a TIE fighter that had both of its sun panels missing along with its top hatch.

>>9640761
>>9640853
haha I have one too. Every one of its guns are also gone. Should have glued them on.

>>9634965
Were those the ones where you could twang the guns and it would make a cool sound?
I had an X-Wing toy like that, and I ended up snapping them all off trying to make music.

>>9634525
I still stand by my original request and waiting warmly until someone can see it

>>9639536
That's disgusting, get the fuck out.

>>9641010
There is no reason to be mean anon if you dont have a critique waiting!

>>9641012
You can leave as well.

>>9641017
dont be mean

>>9641010
But I have been in these threads since the first one.....(I used to do pixel stuff but I want to move on to big kid drawings)

I just thought it was cute but my autism messed up some of the spelling.

>>9641074
>>9641074
Dont worry yourself on that shitposting mean old anon he's just grumpy! Jani is very cute and please do art of her and meido getting into skirt ripping fights. I will be waiting warmly for more of your cute oc.

>>9640436
Delicious meido is delicious

Blue haired meido is the only true meido.

>>9641074
Just pretend you will get out and never actually do. The "getout" imperative is inane on imageboard, I have no idea how it lasted so long.

Personally, I can never draw anything simple or fast enough, it always takes days and dies under the weight of small unnecessary details. So I end up never finishing anything.

>>9640436
Nice. Epic. I like it.

>>9641008
>>9634525

>>9641110
Wont the bra view gets completely blocked by hands holding a cup?

>>9641095
OOH somebody do this for real~!

>>9641117
Depends on the angle you do it from and how she holds it

Im currently writing a story about a man who goes into urinal stalls and stalks women. The twist is he whispers into the stalls causing the women to get aroused and then fall in love with the man.

>>9638459
http://localmusicshow96x.podomatic.com/entry/2012-08-27T09_09_17-07_00

>>9641220
Sounds lewd.

Requesting someone draw the final bit of this scene described here: >>9641177

>>9641516
Shitposting not allowed.

Who is OP? Does he draw somewhere else ?

>>9641557
Your opinion isn't allowed, fag.

Please be nice to each other everyone

>>9634525
I will keep waiting until my request is fulfilled no matter what

>>9641741
With bated breath? Pretty please?

>>9641672
Shut the fuck up.

>>9641908
I love you too.

>>9642141
dat filename

I tried to draw her naked but then shit happened, and then I decided to give her a swimsuit I guess

>>9639536

Cute pic, I wonder how that situation really is though

I hope our new janitor will not be labeled as NNSJ

Janitor should be just the nameless janitor.

>>9642533
It should be meido like always. At least we get cool art.

hello friends

I still don't have my tablet so no color in this one either.

>>9642802
Them thunderthighs.

>>9642802
I want to drink your delicious art through a straw

>>9642706
cool

>>9642802
Not bad
Make sure you practice those hands though.

>>9642802
what?
then how you explain that beauty linework?

>>9642802
Do you have anything you want drawn ?

>>9642845

Well, Miku's birthday in coming up and nobody ever seems to draw her these days, so... Either that or Yayoi from Deardrops.

>>9642848
Ok I will try my best !

I have a stupid request

Did anyone ever see a picture of an American spurdo bear riding a small car and a Jewish guy riding the same car, holding a Patchouli doll with a fishing rod?

I'd be very grateful if someone posted it again.

>>9642782
No. This kind of thing always end up being fuel for drama and meta shitstorm, inside and outside of these threads.

>>9642848
> and nobody ever seems to draw her these days
Really now?

>>9642862
That sounds very stupid and awful, keep 'spurdo bear' and all the dumb shit out of here please.

>>9642953

Of course I'm talking within the context of these threads.

>>9640436
Sayonara, my friend.

>>9637369

Homer

>>9642958
I know it's a stupid request, sorry.

But I wanted to save it and apparently it's not in my HDD. Oh well.

>>9640436
Oh sweet lord, there are people who actually know how to draw.

Thank you.

>>9643265
She moe

>>9642802
Hot.

>>9640436
I love it.

>>9640436
Thanks for helping me grow this past year. I learned a lot thanks to you. I got to meet a lot of artists and do things I never thought I would be able to. You changed my life, no lie. Good luck on your adventure!

>>9642848
I wish I could do something really grand for her birthday, but I don't think I have the time these days...

>>9643748
Nice Mags.

>>9643748
Do you not have time to draw anymore?

>>9642802
I want to marry you

Anyone working on any writing?

>>9644491
I am working on three different works at the moment. But I'm not a fan of posting things unless it's finished.

>>9644491
I made a short CYOA for /tg/ but I noticed the shitstorm in /q/ (https://boards.4chan.org/q/res/138595)) and now I don't know what to do with it.

>>9644504
>three different works
Why not work on only one and actually finish it?

>>9644511
I can't work on a single thing at once. Besides, working on one at a time wouldn't help me go any faster.

>>9644491
Yeah, most of it is never seeing the light of the day, though.

It's all horrible anyway.

today's practice

>>9645614
What type of practicing do you do. Do you want critique

>>9633133
Are you going to deliver?

How do you learn to draw?

how do you learn to draw?

>>9645912
Some people are just born with it, it's not like they practice or anything.

>>9645912
I've asked my friends to help me learn. I'm quite bad now, but I hope I become great some day.

What has helped me is not only my friends, but I used lots of reference pictures to help me learn the shapes and all that. Always use a reference.

>>9645946
Oh, and practice. Practice, practice, practice. Anything from doodling to taking a big step forward, PRACTICE!

To anyone wanting to know how to get started in drawing, or thinking that drawing is a talent you're born with, or just plainly looking for some inspiration,

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=870

Check his first and last drawings. It's really inspiring to see how far this man has gone.

>>9646122
Things like this just make me frustrated. I've put in my hours this past year but I still draw like a donkey.

>>9646162
Take in mind that that's around 9 years of progress.

>>9646162
His beginning pictures already look better than anything I have ever drawn....

>>9646122
Dude why give me a link to lazy white guy who took 9 years for a task that takes 2?

I think 4chan lost my post... Anyway, there is a new post up on the /jp/ Milk Tea blog (jpmilktea.blogspot.com). Also we still need programmers. Please let me know if you're interested in programming for /jp/ Milk Tea.

>>9646122
It's true. Practice makes perfect. Just keep drawing and it will all come to you naturally.

>>9647068
>this was also when I started to develop my style
Heeeeeere's his problem.

See kids? THIS is why you learn basics before trying to do any stylized bullshit.

All you need to do is practice!

>>9647068
>>9647084
Yeah, those are quite perfect for the "I don't need no anatomy or anything else to draw anime style!" crowd.

>>9647088
The second one really makes me feel completely hopeless...

>>9643748
Yeah, being NEET is really hard.

>>9647096
What makes you completely hopeless? Whoever drew those NEVER TRIED TO IMPROVE.

It's exactly like those faggots who come here from time with shit like "don't tell people how to draw properly if they're just drawing for fun!".

If you PRACTICE you improve.

Practicing means drawing new shit you are NOT good at constantly to try and improve. Over and over again.

Not masturbating with some random doodles.

>>9647096
That's how I felt when I first saw that image. I started drawing in April- every Friday I'd sit down with pencil and paper and try to copy photos of animals, people, houses, etc. I made no progress whatsoever, even the simpler stuff looked like a 3rd trimester abortion. I stopped a month ago and I'm now planning to take some classes in the local community college, which is what the guy in >>9646122 did if I remember correctly.

>>9646889
Hnnnngh. Your works are the the only ones I actually wait to see in these threads, thanks a lot for making such nice pictures.

>>9647144
>literally hundreds of drawing books and tutorials out there
>fuck that, I don't need no instruction, let's figure everything out myself!
And you wonder why you failed. Don't even bother with classes, you're just going to blame them for your own shortcomings.

>>9647068
>>9647084
I can't help but think those are just material to troll people in threads like this.

Well, if that's for real, then I'm glad that all the idiots that like fanfic, behave like idiots and shit are actually as bad as I think they are.

>>9647173
Instruction is really invaluable when it comes to plastic arts. It really is. Especially if you are such a fuck up like me that didn't even know how to grab a pen correctly.

>>9647144
you gotta try drawing daily and using books as reference on how to construct your drawings. It helps if you know what to do instead of copying.

>>9646202

He had a good grip on tablet technique at the beginning, but you can see that he was still bad when it came to the actual product.

>>9647173
If you had actually tried reading some of them, you'd know that books for beginners tell you to draw from life. That's all I did. After a while I realized that I needed to construct things and see the human figure as a combination of geometric shapes instead of simple lines, but extremely poor spatial reasoning is not something that you can easily fix by yourself. That's why I want to take some figure drawing lessons.

Learning to draw takes as long as it takes, don't concern yourself over not improving fast enough.

>>9647257
...this post proves just how little you were able to "figure out".

Pro tip: no, you don't have to construct things when you're drawing from life.

for progress charts, is it better to focus on works that show noticeable difference from month to month, or on a particular character? The last one I did seemed to be more of a showcase of styles rather than improvement.

i feel in this case the only noticeable difference i see is in the coloring.

>>9647307
Every resource I found claims that you should compose your models out of simple shapes to draw the human body, hell, to even draw a fucking anime face. My elementary school art teacher thought so to. I don't even know what are you on about, nor what are you even berating him for, let the dude assist his course. Maybe you are drunk.

>>9647341
Can you please post Mar 2012, Apr 2012 and May 2012?

>>9647307
Are you fucking retarded? Construction is for understanding and utilizing planes. COPYING LIKE A FUCKING CAMERA IS WHAT YOU GET BY NOT CONSTRUCTING EVERYRHING YOU DRAW.

YOU DONT BREAK IT INTO GEOMETRIC SHAPES EITHER, YOUR SUPPOSED TO CREATE SPECIFIC SHAPES YOU MEMORIZE FOR EACH PART OF THE BODY. YOU KNOW WHY PEOPLE DONT IMPROVE FAST? BECAUSE THEYRE DUMB MUTHERFUCKERS THAT CANT FUCKING THINK. ART IS MORE RELATED TO MATH THAN LITERATURE.

THERE IS TALENT AND IT DEPENDS ON YOUR FUCKING IQ LEVEL LIKE EVERY OTHER SKILL GOR HUMANS. Sure you do need to practice a lot, but higher IQ always will trump your efforts. Just have fun drawing. If you aren't even enjoying what you're doing, why do it? Products don't even matter unless you're an attention whore. If there's feeling put into the work it's art. Making it look good is just a side bonus. Drawing is the mos enjoyable activity in the world.

Touching on the subject of art looking good requires an analogy. Let's create an environment where there are three individuals keen on learning how to draw. They do studies of humans every day. Person A does more than B and B does more than C. Assuming everyone has the same level of intelligence A would obviously have the greatest results. Who is the best artist then? God is.

>>9647372
shut up, dork.

>>9647341
In your case, there are other pictures that can show improvement better. You made this one too right? I think it shows quite clearly how much you improved compared to your first drawings (the Irisu ones at least).

Regarding a particular character or month to month, I think both are good to have a look on, but focusing on just one character might show less improvement than your skill in general. Or at least it might be harder to notice.

>>9647385
Forgot the image.

>>9647052
I'd consider helping but python a shit.

What sort of programming do you need done? What roles are filled, what libraries/engines are you using, what's the feature list you need implemented? Is there a single statement about the entire vision for the game, or is it all going to be random ideas pasted into the blog?

there isn't anything wrong with deviating from the normal style :)

this ones from younger and more adventurous years.

i wasn't as good as now but i put a lot of effort into it

>>9647416
>>9647427
Go back to whatever shithole you came from.

>>9647385
Yeah, that was the same thought I had. I should redo an Irisu-character progression from the first drawing to the most recent then, just to see progression

>>9647371
I don't know if this is the best way, so bear with me

for the March 2012 (http://i48.tinypic.com/256z0ie.png)(http://i49.tinypic.com/sztxzd.png)

for the April 2012 (http://i50.tinypic.com/2dlqih0.png))

for the May2012 (http://i46.tinypic.com/23kst50.png))

>>9647427
>i wasn't as good as now but i put a lot of effort into it
Me too. What's up with that? I can draw worlds better than when I was younger but I don't put any effort besides drawing backgroundless solo images of people.

Also that pic screams "ur a fagot"

>>9647433

>>>/b/
go back under your bridge.
i didn't provoke anyone.

>>9647438
Alright. Got the drawings, thanks.

>>9647444
You are in the wrong neighborhood, son. Just pick up your faggotry, smileys, etc and leave.

>>9647452
you tell him dude.

>>9647444
A trip with trips

>>9647470
A trip with trips responding to dubs.

>>9647452
>>9647460
>anons earlier saying to just have fun drawing
>next, they say I can't draw in that style because they won't let me
>logic

the artists here are good at what they do. new or old, they should keep drawing.

the rest of you, just no. if it's really that easy to piss you people off, you're a very ripe target on a site like this.

>>9647493
Oh you poor thing, it's like you can't see what's going on right in front of you. What a pitiful, yet common, sight, Mr. NewRandomTripidiotThatJustLandedOnTheBoard.

Looks like you literally have no clue of where you are, just head back to the other boards you frequent, deviantshit, whatever and be happy there.

>>9647502
I love how this kid thinks 4Chan is some exclusive club.

>>9647502
it's an OC thread on /jp/. it's really not the place to get high and mighty. i won't judge the community on one headstrong kid, but i will leave.

start coming into these things to draw instead of to get pissy with people. you'll like it better.

I'll take a quick request. Try not to ask for touhou or meido, though...

>>9647563
Jani on a unicycle.

>>9647493
Hey I think I remember you from a drawthread in /b/. You were posting Soul Eater fanart I think

>>9647563
How about a dragon?

>>9647563
Draw this
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Fluffy_wambler

>>9647052
I think I proposed something like this a few years ago and nobody bothered responding. Fuck everyone I hate you all.

>>9637942
>>9637953
>I really don't mean to insult you...

>>9647416
>>9647433
>FUCK OFF

/jp/ spends so much time pretending to be little girls that they actually start thinking and going off like little girls do. I love it.

>>9647619
please don't bother us with your inane use of spoilers.

>>9647623
Agreed. It's really annoying.

>>9647623
>easily lured an anon into proving my point

>>9647639
Can you please stop misusing the quote feature as well? There always seems to be one guy in these threads that posts like some kind of idiot with greentext and spoilers.

>>9647662
You're really intent on proving my point.

To clarify, what I'm saying is that when something doesn't fit your idea of fashionable, it bothers you because "That's not the one I wanted!" It's what little girls do. They'll throw their new toy against the wall because they wanted a different toy instead.

>>9647674
Just stop harassing us. It's an OC thread, not your thoughts on the dynamics of /jp/, ok?

You think a drawing tutor is worth the money? I found someone who charges 10 bucks an hour. I'm an absolute beginner and I think it'd be nice and effective if I got someone to personally show me how to get started on all the techniques of pencil drawing.

>>9647577

Glad you asked for a dragon because I'm enjoying this game a lot.

>>9647674
I didn't read anything you've even posted, because of the greentext and spoilers. Posts like that aren't ever worth reading.

>>9647704
Glad I could help you choose Anon. It's a very cute drawing. Thank you, I appreciate your time.

>>9638271
>>9638244

Here; does /jp/ like to read?

>>9647563
Draw ZUN!bar hitting on Saten

>>9647683
I'm pretty sure a guy got harassed in here just because he didn't fit the fashion. Besides, I'm just stating facts and making a comparison, not actually harassing people.

>>9647715
>response
... what?

>>9647724

What does Zunbar even look like anyway?

>>9647739
I dont know I guess its up to the persons interpretation of him. I always view him as a comical nerd.

>>9647728
>>response
>... what?

I don't know, you tell me.

>>9647756
I thought you said you didn't read any of my posts.

Hi, my name is Reimu, and I like to make people feel stupid. I'm done here~

>>9647767
7/10

Is /a/ in here? I see the quoting function being misused.

>>9647775
They're always in these threads. It's really annoying.

>>9647767
Like I said, you tell me.

>>9647814
>>9647775
proving reimu's point, etc, etc

the shitposting was from a troll. apparently,
>this
and this are incredibly easy ways to screw with /jp/. you guys get offended so easily . especially in these threads.

>>9647846
wow you are a master troll.

>>9647391
None of the programming has been done. I'm trying to learn for the sake of the game. For that reason, I'd be willing to program with anything other than Python so long as the game runs fine and can be played on Windows and Linux distributions.

We have more work done aside from what is on the blog. We have a message board where we gather all of the information. We have an artist that makes pretty pictures, a sprite artist, and a guy that is working on music.

If we can get a team of programmers, the project will move along much faster. Otherwise it will be slowed down by my lack of experience with programming.

Anyone know where else I could go to recruit programmers?

I drew a cock but we are not allowed to post pics of cocks.

>>9647870
Why is the artist drawing these if the game doesn't even exist yet? In my opinion it's like sewing a dress for a stranger without knowing their measures... I know everyone does things in their own way, but I'd put the game together first, use programmer graphics (placeholders) and then call in the artist. It just seems kind of unpractical to me

>>9647713
No one like fanfiction besides actual little girls and Touhou secondaries.

>>9647989
What about incest stories?

>>9647980
He may have more planned that what we're seeing. For all we know he already has all the characters written out. Besides, concept art and things along those lines are started during the process as well.

>>9648000
Only if they're blood related.

>>9647870
>and Linux
lol fuck Linux

I primarily use C++ and Java myself. As much as I hate saying it, Java is probably a good idea for a small game with inexperienced programmers that is multiplatform. I don't have any experience with Java game libraries though (I have more experience making games with pygame than making games with Java, although I don't like or commonly use python)

As for recruiting programmers, there's the amateur game dev threads on /vg/ is all I know, but taking the project off boards may garner hate from /jp/. There's a lot of programmers in /jp/ though. They might help if your project doesn't look like it's going to be dropped soon. You need to have more than just an idea and some art to start.

You should come up with one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_design_document because programming haphazardly will lead to situations and wasted time. Doesn't even just have to be complicated, just a list of things you want in the game that will be mostly adhered to except when they need to be changed. It would take "is most easily described as a Animal Crossing type of game with elements borrowed from other games such as Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 FES and Harvest Moon." and specifically describe what concepts you take from each, as well as what you do in the game and things you probably aren't thinking of right now like what the controls will be and so on.

I don't know if you've done that or not already though.

Is your forum private or can you link it?

>>9647980
On the other hand, getting music and art is probably the harder part of indie games. Having access to that begin with will be better than ending up with something that resembles a roguelike unless you pay people to make art for it.

Takami Akai, the producer of the series and a co-founder of Gainax, announced that he would resign his position effective episode five, which aired on April 29, 2007, over comments that he made regarding posts on the Japanese Internet forum 2channel. Akai and another Gainax employee, Keiko Mimori, made disparaging remarks about comments criticizing the animation style of the fourth episode of Gurren Lagann, which was completely directed by guest and friend Osamu Kobayashi. With regard to reading the fan criticisms, Akai stated that it was "like putting [his] face next to an anus and breathing deeply." Fans later became aware of his comments, and he announced his departure from the company he helped to found.

>>9648138
Thanks for the response. I do have quite a bit more planned out, actually. Not much is on the blog right now. This was a solo project until last week, so I didn't really need a better way to communicate at the time.

Here is the forum: http://jpmilktea.freeforums.org/index.php

You'll need to make an account since guests can't view everything. Otherwise I could try uploading/sending a .rar archive with everything in it. It actually has a bit more than the forum currently has since I've just recently made the forum on Sunday to make communication easier.

At the moment, I'm adding a separate page to the blog that will explain the game better than trying to read through blog posts. I realize that I haven't had a good way to explain it posted beforehand. I'll work on a game design document now though.

Thanks for the tips.

>>9647989
Alright, thank you for your time.

>>9648138
I suppose the message board and the gathered information that it is based off of would qualify as game design documents. I've a folder with several sub-folders to keep everything organized. These folders have the artwork as well as descriptions for characters, locations, and important systems (time system, social system, gardening system, etc.) . The message board is just the same information copied and pasted so we can discuss each aspect in an organized manner. Also, most information there is available for guests to read now.

So I've taken up drawing and I am really really fucking bad at it, and I don't have money for art classes or anything. Did any anons learn through straight experience (I try to draw a couple hours a day to get better) but any advice will help.

Here's a picture of Sanae.

>>9647870
I'm keeping a folder of all Milk tea related images because I love it. And now I'm going to back up that folder on another computer and an SD card because I want this art to exist forever.

Maybe some day when I'm not a gigantic faggot and can draw I will mimic whoever drew that art.

>>9648742
Is that a sanic dick-ear pikachu?

I haven't taken drawing classes, and I like to think that I've gotten pretty good just drawing something every now and then. I've drawn things since I was little. Many people seem to put a lot of weight to the importance of practise and drawing regularly, but I think it's best to draw when you have a good idea or concept which you really want to draw. It also helps because you may already have an image of it in your mind so you know what to do. Go all-out, music helps.

here's an old screencap from jp´s flockdraw room

>>9648909
Yeah it's Chrischan's sonichu medallion instead of the usual frog thing. And yeah that's a poorly drawn dick. I think the reason I can't really draw is because I haven't really studied like, anatomy and shit. I'm pretty stupid in general. Like, when I think of dicks? Nope. Sure as fuck ain't drawing mine.

Thank you for the advice, and is that something you drew in flockdraw or what? I wish I could draw anime porn.

/jp/ - Life aspirations.

Totally late.
Try to use thinner lines this time.

>>9649004
Late to what? and okay, about the lines.

>>9649175
Finally. I've been waiting for this!

>>9648742
Self-taught drawfag here, never took classes or looked at a book or a tutorial. I've spent most of my life doodling, but it wasn't until a little over a year ago that I actually started trying to improve. I'd love to grab some books but I have zero discipline and can't learn shit without someone forcing me to. Also lazy as fuck.

>>9648909
Man that shit has to be ancient since I haven't been on the flockmod in like months and I'm connected there.

>>9648667
You need to explain the core gameplay first before explaining various features like events. Go to the very basics, like how many buttons are needed for controls and what do they do, and what is the actual objective of the game, how to reach it and consequences if you fail, and so on.

Man, I think I should finish this.
Or just not make it in general.

>>9649414
Yeah, I suggest starting a new drawing.

On a side note that is one of the creepiest drawings of Kaguya I have ever seen.

>>9647724
>>9647739
>>9647741
No retarded circlejerking crap please.

>>9649175
Ears look bad. Futa with testicles is disgusting.

>>9647870
If I was programming this, I'd rather it be on C# with the XNA library. because fuck C++ and pointers and fuck Java and fuck Linux.

>>9649548
>fuck C++ and pointers
Trying to figure out pointers with C++ is a pain. Try C, where you're pretty much forced to understand them - which surprisingly makes it a whole lot easier in the end.

>fuck Linux
MonoXNA exists

>>9649368
You're quite right. I haven't made that completely clear. I've information regarding the focus of the game, but I need to revise it. Some more details have been shared with the team previously that explained things a little better, but not clearly enough. Thanks for your thoughts.

I realize that I don't have the game development experience that would be ideal for leading game development, but I believe I have the vision in my mind that could lead to enjoyable results. Furthermore, I will not give up on this project. I've been formulating ideas with some of my spare time for nearly a year now. Had I been more focused, I would have more done. Now that people have joined though, I've put a lot more time into /jp/ Milk Tea.

Pls

>>9649548
>rather it be on C#
>fuck Java
Isn't C# like java: the MS version?
Java itself is just C++ for dummies. You can get libraries to handle them for you in C++ too. Or you can learn to program. It's not really THAT hard.

>>9649368
I don't think buttons are really that a big deal that early on, but it should be decided if it's going to use keyboard or be able to use a controller, since a keyboard will allow lots of hotkeys. If it's a controller, then you need to assume it has ~10 buttons and limit the actions to that.

>>9650101

Some other things to note:
1. Make a map, if you haven't already, marking off where the locations are in relation to each other.

2. Decide and specify what sort of libraries you're going to use. It might be more worthwhile to learn how the use the libraries along with programming. It wouldn't take to long to actually have something to show once you've got your tools set up.

3. Decide how you're going to get multiple programmers to work together, how you're going to split up the tasks, etc. You might* want to look up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Subversion
*But you probably won't have many programmers and it might not be that big a deal, if you divvy up the tasks properly and have those who are responsible be the only ones allowed to change a file. Still, you have to be able to submit and compile everything into one game, so think about how you're going to make that happen.

4. It's a good idea to have some sort of feature checklist so you know what is implemented and what needs to be and what is working properly and what is not. By which I mean a single document/forum post containing them all collected so that it's easy to examine.

5. You might want to think about how you're going to test the game besides playing it directly. (e.g. a dev menu to test weather effects)

Anyone gonna start a new thread

>>9651060
When this one dies.

>>9651071

waiting until then

>>9651071

waiting until then

>>9651784
These loading screens will be the death of me.

>>9651784
Oh god, you unlocked the wonderful world of gifs. I will be looking forward for more in the future, so take responsibility.

I really like these clothes you made for her, they are extremely cute, really good job. Thanks for drawing, as always.

>>9651784
my goodness

>>9649175
Draw her fucking Eirin or Kaguya

Less than 5 minutes of speed sketching for oni ass.