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Too complex for me...

i tried to learn to play average/well for like a week.
that was a bad week.

I think there were a couple go players on /tg/.

Personally I think the game looks pretty neat but it'd be too much of a commitment for me to even try getting decent at it not to mention the lack of players where I live. I'd hate to learn a board game just to play it on the computer.

The only thing I find appealing about Go is the fact that it is further from being solved than Chess.
Seems something of a dull game in other regards, despite the number of permutations of the board/complex strategies.

>>9571165
Have you tried starting on smaller boards?

>>9571186
I agree, the complexity compared to other games is great. I find that it is less dull of you think of it as something like a virus/immune system simulation, a zombie outbreak simulator, or something like that. That's probably the lamest thing anybody has ever said about Go, but having an active imagination really helped me get more into it. It's so horrendously abstracted, though, it's fun to try to imagine real-world things it could be allegories for

I know the rules, but never fell really interested in it.

>I find that it is less dull of you think of it as something like a virus/immune system simulation, a zombie outbreak simulator, or something like that. That's probably the lamest thing anybody has ever said about Go
My first impression was, "cool, I can teleport my troops, but they died if they are surrounded. Why the fuck i can't teleport supplies too?" then I realized the enemy (and my men too) should carry some kind of teleport inhibitors. Also they don't have ordinance nor any long range attacks, so probably they have some personal shields, like in Dune, and must kill the enemies in melee combat or with "slow" throwing weapons.

I should add some cute alien/robot girls, make a shitty plot and sell the idea to Kyoani.

Wow, who left all those chocolate buttons all over that chess board? Oh well, I guess I'll eat them then!

>>9571165
there is white stones and black stone. You put stones on the intersections.
So complex.

>>9571407
I almost wrote a similar reply, but I ended up contradicting myself.

The rules of Go are the simplest thing ever. You can explain it to someone in under a minute. It's not like chess where there are different pieces and so on. However, the actual _game_ of Go is crazy complicated.

It's like UNIX: The Board Game.

>>9571179
You can play online. I've played thousands of matches, and none of them were on an actual board.

>>9571186
A few years ago when I was still playing regularly, I could beat AI with ease. The algorithms have probably improved since, but it's still a viable opponent and not a completely lost cause like in chess, so you don't even need other humans to play, there's this option too.

>>9571429
>not a completely lost cause

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Go#Recent_results

Oh shit, scratch that, I didn't realize they're getting this good that fast.

>>9571429
Playing against a person and against an AI are two very, very different things.
First, there is a real difference in play style - traps and tricks dont usually work on AIs, and AIs dont set them up as well, as the AI always try to play the safest way, assuming his opponent is playign carefully.

Secondly, when i know i play against a person, theres always a psychological factor of trying to figure out his intentions and plans. You often can see if the person is afraid, or desperate, especially in lower level games. You can see some trap being set up and try to turn it against your opponent without him noticing too early, and so on.

Not like i play go much, but in this sense its quite close to chess.

I actually have a very nice board with stones in my closet.
I wanna get one of my friend into it.

I play go. I'm not very good though. Probably like 20 kyu or something.

Isn't Go similar to Othello?

>>9572219
No, it's similar to C and Python.

>>9572219
Only in the fact they're both played with similar pieces. They also have relatively similar aims (capture most of board), they play very differently though, and go is a lot more complex.

I'm learning it right now. I was actually thinking of making a thread similar to this one.