/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Make a blog.

I don't earn money, but my government supports me and I'm very grateful for it.

>>9506984
there's a million ways to make money online

Do Touhou gameplay commentaries and upload them to YouTube.

Is it possible to make a decent amount of money from Amazon mturk?

>>9507001
I agree, I made $102,384 last month and you can to with the help of my new book.

C'mon guys I have no money and need your help.

I ask weeaboos to send me pictures of their rooms, then I print them in books without paying or crediting them.

I don't like figures and that stuff, because I get bored of them quickly, so with the money my dad sends me is enough to afford a couple of candies.

>>9507038
With my new book you can easily begin making money straight away. After only two months this man just got his pay check of over $100,000!

Seriously how do you guys afford to survive as NEETs? Let me in on the secret I'm begging you.

>>9506984

You can try oDesk. I tried it but I never got paid because I had to sign some garbage with my SN and the boss fired me pretty quick cause I'm an idiot.

>>9507091
With my new book you can go from being unemployed to an ace in the boardroom. Within a few months, you'll have not only a steady flow of income but also the capable to expand and have a team of people working under you.

>>9507091
get money from parents/government or win the lottery

>>9507109
>>9507067
>>9507017
Please stop.

>>9507165
Okay, I'm sorry ;_;

>>9507101
So on this oDesk thing, if I score above average for programming and get work, do they HAVE to pay me or this site will help me sue them?

>>9507182

Give it a shot and let us know. I wouldn't know about getting jobs in programming on that site though. I would imagine you would be underpaid and taken advantage of.

I'm going to try translating when my level of Japanese is good enough.

Student loans, online classes
I'm scared for after graduation, but in the meantime I'm livin the dream.

Work security. I sit in front of a computer in a booth all day checking peoples badges. The government pays me $45,000 per year to do this.

Easiest job ever.

>>9507276
I've actually thought about this too, although I was considering night security.

>>9507319
Economic income is related to a culture.

Aren't there enough other places for you guys to discuss these 3D things? This is clearly not the right board for it.

>>9507327
Our culture doesn't exist for those who spend their time outside and interact with other humans.
If these things are really that important to you, then you have to make a choice.
There is no middle way, you cannot have a job and pretend to love VNs, Touhou etc.

>>9507399
Why would you pretend to like VNs, Touhou etc. in the first place? You can be an otaku without liking most of the commonly talked topics on this board.

>>9507431
They treat it as some kind of throw-away hobby that they show off with. They'd replace it anytime with the next "awesome nerdy internet thing" once they get bored with Otaku stuff. This is what makes me really, really angry as somebody who loves it more than anything else in the world. The whole site is infested with these people by now. If they really liked it they would give up on the real world.

>>9507514
Your hobbies wouldn't exist if these people weren't supporting them with the money they get from their jobs.

>>9507524
Screw the support, his hobbies wouldn't exist if the people who make all the Japanese crap we like stopped working.

Shitty thread is shitty as usual.

/jp/ is like a hybrid of /a/, /b/, and /v/ with an autistic touch. In fact, its one of the most worthless boards in 4chan(besides /r/ being the most useless). Why the Japanophile, Internet Culture cultist dork, M_o_o_t, created it is beyond me. Let's rid of the /jp/, and just transfer all the Touhou junk to /vg/. They already have Vn discussions there. And /h/ and /d/ have you covered for all your weird fetishes you may have. I don't see any legitimate point in maintaining /jp/ at this point. The only thing I see going around here are the pathetic lives Japanophiles lead and the basement faggot, cultists, who spend their lives trolling them(which are equally pathetic).

>>9507659
>Why the Japanophile, Internet Culture cultist dork, M_o_o_t, created it is beyond me
We were created to be a trash dump.

Again, startup, you'll be kicking yourselves in two years' time, etc.

ＷＨＩＴＥ ＰＩＧ ｌｅａｖｅ

I have a normal job. $ 52k / year

>at age 18
>ready to move out to another state
>mom is only living relative
>tell her I am moving out to x state
>she doesn't want to live alone
>half good half bad that I still live at home ate age 20
>not sure what to do

>make money online
Oh there's all kinds of scamming, but you already have so much competition you'll probably wind up losing money and getting in trouble for somebody else's shit.

At best, you'll wind up paying more in electric costs running your computer than you make.

If you actually have some kind of marketable skill, of course, you might be able to sell it over the internet. "Rental coder" type crap for an obvious "board culture"-related example.

>>9507431

What's VN or Touhou? (first time here and I consider myself to be a pretty gigantic otakuu~)

>>9507715
VN stands for Visual Novel, you can look up what exactly it is yourself. A quick google search for Touhou should give you plenty of results too.

is that what you fags call manga? "Visual Novels?"

hhehehehe

>>9507659
It's funny because there's actually very little trolling going on. Random bypassers seem to have trouble understanding it.

>>9507695

Not a chance.

>>9507668

Then stop acting like pieces of trash you guys are and start acting like a legitimate board because /c/, /h/, and /vg/ are quickly rendering your board irrelevant. All I see here is Touhou crap, pathetic ramblings of otaku, and pathetic rants/gotcha phrases from pathetic, basement dwelling, internet culture cultists.

BORING

>>9507774
>Not a chance.
Why not

>>9507774
>Then stop acting like pieces of trash you guys are

What.

>>9507774

Feel free to leave.

>>9507774
If you don't like what's going on here, just leave.

I want to make money like, ``investing''
Stock market
Buying one currency, waiting, changing for another with profit

All these things! They sound so fun, like a game.

But I know nothing, I'm a little stupid.

Is there a book or something I can read about this?

Thank you!

>>9507830
I've been told by people who are supposedly knowledgeable of these things that making money off currency is very unlikely. You lose money most of the time.

>>9507774
Your mom can't stop complaining about your bad attitude even when I'm drilling her and I'm beginning to see why.

>>9507841

I thought so, because of exchange rates, right? People ask for a percentage of what you are exchanging. But I also heard of a parallel market for this. Do you know anything about it?

But indeed, it may be a very little profit. I want to become richNEET!

>>9507774
Bor~riing! You're so boring!

>>9507855
Sorry it was a while ago and I have a very bad memory.

>>9507864

Is that Cirno?

>forex
eep, whoa hell no fuck that shit

>>9507868

>>9507866

Don't worry. Do you invest in anything? Stock market or something like that?
Also, did you that when bitcoins first started,
they were 4 times cheaper? If you had bought $25000 worth of bitcoins right at its creation and waited a few months, you would have $1 milion now!

I wonder if anyone has done that... I would be a little afraid of the creator just take my money and disappear or for bitcoins to die.

>>9507866

Don't worry. Do you invest in anything? Stock market or something like that?
Also, did you that when bitcoins first started,
they were 4 times cheaper? If you had bought $250000 worth of bitcoins right at its creation and waited a few months, you would have $1 milion now!

I wonder if anyone has done that... I would be a little afraid of the creator just take my money and disappear or for bitcoins to die.

>>9507915

two-hu

Is touhou pronounced the way I think it's pronounced?

>>9507919
But Japanese doesn't have any syllables that's pronounced two.

>>9507930

FUK U
ITS 2-HU!

>>9507902
I only save the little money I have, I'm too afraid of the risks to invest.

Yeah the bitcoin increase is very interesting and it makes me feels stupid to laugh it off as a destined to fail project. In the beginning when bitcoins where cheap as fuck and they were easy to main there were people with a lot of GPUs that mined them, I wonder if any of them are still holding on to those.

>I would be a little afraid of the creator just take my money and disappear or for bitcoins to die.
I wouldn't worry about anyone taking your money unless you use an online wallet or try to buy/sell through shady dealers.

>>9507934

No, I mean, someone created the bitcoin system.
I would be afraid that he would just run it for half a year, take all the money people had there, and disappear.

>>9507930
There's a reason why /jp/ writes it as 2hu, you read it the same but it's easier to write.

>>9507933
It's pronounced tåhå

>>9507954
I don't know much about bitcoins, but it's a decentralized system and all the money -> bitcoins and bitcon -> money conversion are all done by third parties.

>>9507930
Actually, some dialects pronounce 「つ」 as "tu."

>>9507902

>I would be a little afraid of the creator just take my money and disappear or for bitcoins to die.

That actually happened to someone.

I can't remember the details but he exchanged a lot of his money into bitcoins and the site hosting his wallet went under.

It was quite the scandal.

>>9507970

Oh, I see.
I also don't know much about bitcoins either.

>>9507934

>I'm too afraid of the risks to invest.

But the results can be so good sometimes!

lol buttcoins

Actually, I like the blog idea right up top, if you can author content without somehow saying something TOS-violating, you could maybe make a few cents on ads or however that works, right? Or draw a shitty webcomic.

>>9507976
That's why you shouldn't host your wallet online, they can take your bitcoins any time they like. You should keep your own wallet and make it secure.

>>9507982
>But the results can be so good sometimes!
True. They can also be bad though.

>>9507976

That's pretty sad...
If he had just chosen another host he could have quadruplicated his money...

>>9507955
So it's a "thing" to intentionally pronounce it incorrectly?

tow-hoe

So guys, do you know a good book so I can know of these things?
To see how I can ``invest'' my money and such. Any options, as buying and selling things (even money), stock market, all that.
I also know quite some mathematics. I believe statistics is a requirement right?

tcha-hah

>>9507695
What do you do guy?

tiggity higgity

Professional cock sucker

>>9507999

>True. They can also be bad though.

But have you never wanted to try it? What if you can predict with reasonable accuracy whether you can profit out of it? Many people can, by analyzing and calculating and something (I don't know)

ツーフー

>>9508031
I write decision basis reports for politicians.

>>9508011
Go to Amazon and look for books on stock trading. Read the reviews. Search for e-book versions of the popular ones.

>>9508032
le epic /g/ meme xDDDD lol :p

>>9508049

But can I trust amazon people? I don't know if they are trustworthy...
But if nobody has any recommendation I may try that! Thank you for the idea.

>>9508041
I don't like to take risks but I have wanted to try it once just for the heck of it. I know there are companies that invest your money for you in the US, I have no idea if those exist here. I assume those guys know more about it than I do plus they want to make me more money so they have more profit.

>>9508062
Generally you can, and that's why should try to find the e-book version. This way you can skim it and see if it's any good.

Have in mind that there's a lot of theory in stock trading, without any hard evidence to support it (like how to predict shares).

>>9508065

But than it wouldn't be so fun, would it? And they would be taking part of your money. Moreover, the best ones on these things don't work like that, they do it for themselves.
Why don't you try learning, so you know more than they? It can't be that hard... (can it?)

>>9508074

>theory [...] without any hard evidence to support it

I think those are called hypothesis.
Anyway, I will try that out, then. Thanks!

don't listen to these faggots telling you to invest your own money.

You need at least $100,000 or so to make a profit (due to the fact you need to pay transaction fees when you buy / sell a position)

even then its a crap shoot, small day traders are getting pushed out of the market because you cannot take it easy and the markets are constantly manipulated by either hedgefunds / banks or the government outright.

73% of ALL us equity volume is done by a very small percentage of massive HFT'ers. It's a scam, stay out.

That doesn't even include the shit economy we are in and Quantitative Easing / bond manipulation / rampant fraud.

even for rich people who can manipulate it, its a fickle master.

>>9508075
It looks fairly easy but I bet it's actually very complicated. What I imagine it will be like is finding stocks of a starting business with low stocks and follow it for a while. If you notice a trend then you can try to make money, but that sounds wrong.

>>9508098

What would you suggest then?

I have only $10000 saved and would like to multiply that to at least $1 million. (I know I can't do that at once, obviously)

But besides investing in stocks, what can I do?

What kind of jobs would you recommend to a /jp/er with some experience but no education whatsoever? I'm currently working as an accountant (my mom got this job for me) but it will only last till October.

I've delivered newspapers before but the pay is so lousy that I wouldn't be much worse off if I just lived on benefits.

>>9508098

What about this?
https://archive.installgentoo.net/sci/thread/S4718775#p4721021

>>9508153
The "fuck off to another board"-job.

>>9508153

pls gtfo

>>9508086
Well, they are theories trying to explain how the market works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_analysis
compare this to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficient-market_hypothesis

Also read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_analysis

/jp/ is not /jp/ anymore

Spam some shit to get this 3D garbage thread deleted already.

>>9508177

I think you are right, then.
Just found this, interesting reading:
http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistry101/a/lawtheory.htm
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/footshooting/Iterminology.shtml

BITCOINS

>>9508197

>>>/a/

>>9508127
save more money.

There is no such thing as a free lunch and if you expect to grow your money 100 times over you are insane.

you would be a pro at 3-9% a year... and even after more than a decade you will have barely doubled your money ... this doesn't include inflation, taxes, markets being rigged, etc and the average person being a fucking loser in the pyramid scheme.

Don't be an idiot... put it in something secure or well hedged and let someone who has more capital manage it for you so you mitigate as much risk as possible. Most Equity right now is probably 50% OVER valued due to govenrment manipulation (QE1,2, operation twist, low interest rates)


I am completely risk adverse and am currently in fixed income because I understand its a fucking scam that needs to end soon.

North America will have its pops and depression but the real growth is in BRIC countries which are ALSO highly speculative, in bad economic/demographic shape and have even worse fraud then North America.

There are no safe heavens so sit in something relatively stable and hope you don't get reemed on inflation.

tl;dr run...run and don't look back.

Isn't it very unwise to start trading stocks if you're an average NEET?

Firstly, you need something to start with.
Secondly, you should expect to lose quite a bit of dosh before, and even if, you get the hang of it. After all, you'd be competing with other people who've been at it for years. And, chances are, who have access to many more resources - specialized education, work experience in related fields, personal connections.
Thirdly, even if you consider all factors, it's just a giant lottery. Gambling. Probably fairer than in a casino, but it's still heavily based on luck. Some gamblers get rich. That doesn't mean that it's a stable source of income.

Not to stomp on anyone's ambitions. But I'd just hate to see anyone as vulnerable as the average person here is, fail and get into [even more?] debt.

>>9508160
Why do they have music playing on their archive? Do they have an archive owner even worse than Woxxy?

>>9508225
There are websites/companies that lets you play around with fake pretend money, and invest them in the real market.

It's a good way to see if you have the skills to do real stock trading.

>>9508215

3-9% profit a year is of no interest for me.

What about bitcoins? They granted 400% profit in some months.
I believe the biggest thing out there is emerging markets, right? But how would I "discover" them?

Also, I am on a BRIC. Could I use that on my favor? I have studied their relation in the past...

>>9508127
you can also try your hand at a paper trading platform (there are many but are usually locked into 1 market IE. US equity, forex , etc)

investopedia.com

take my word, stay the fuck out of the markets.

>>9508247
There's probably a lot of people going into bitcoins right now because of the fast spreading news of the increasing value. I don't know if that is a good or a bad thing.

>>9508247
your entire mentality about money and markets means you will probably end up turning that 10,000 into 0 chasing stupid retarded returns that rarely exist unless you win the risk lottery.

you will probably make more money scrubbing toilets at minimum wage than investing.

The stock market is perfectly reasonable as long as you don't go in with the goal of making huge profits in short amounts of time. Therefore, it's probably not what most of you are looking for. If you already have a lot of money saved up, then investing in stocks (and maybe some bonds, if you so choose) is the best way to build wealth over the long term.

Keyword is long term, meaning 15+ years, usually much longer. Therefore, it's probably not what you're looking for, and if you don't already have a source of income, you should not be investing much money. Your survival comes first.

I would stay away from things like forex, binary options, day trading, and the like. They are incredibly risky, and if you don't even have experience with the slow and reasonably safe stocks, you don't have much of a chance.

>>9508225

I won't ever get any debt, that's for sure. At the very most I will have $0 saved.
The money I plan to invest ($10000) is all from my previous savings. Besides, if I am really in a bad situation, I could ask my parents to help me.
And besides actually ``working'' and having to listen to a bully boss and have ``social interactions'' with shitty people, this is the only way of me getting rich.
And I have a reasonable education! I under-graduated in engineering before becoming a NEET.

>>9508202

Hopefully it will be better when summer is over.

Stay strong anon.

slut 2hu thread

>>9508301

What is she doing?

>>9508313
Hanging herself obviously.

Do you guys think it's possible to reliably make ~$200 a month without leaving the room?

Right. Fun part of the thread's over, now it's all >>9506984
>Post bad advice recommending bitcoins, forex, day-trading and similar scams ITT

>>9508353
Nobody actually recommended buttcoins.

Marisa in pain is also very cute~

>>9506984
I recommend bitcoints.

>>9508361
I love to suffocate myself. Not through strangling or things like that in the picture, but by using plastic bags, or putting tape over my nose and mouth, or binding myself under water in my bathtub...

>>9508367
I recommend you to visit the guys at /soc/ to discuss this shit.

>>9508286

Still, can you respond to this, please?

>I believe the biggest thing out there is emerging markets, right? But how would I "discover" them?

I know that the stock market is about long term profits, but now and then, there are some things that skyrocket. Isn't there a way to stay on par of these things and analyse when they appear?

For example, let's say tomorrow a company that has some revolutionary product becomes selling stocks for an extremely low value, since nobody know about it yet.

Then after a year, it becomes very famous and everybody is buying from this company, so their stocks now are 7 times more expensive.

So, if I had bought if on the start and sold after 1 year, I would have a 700% profit, right?
But how would someone "discover" these emerging opportunities?

P.S.: Was these kind of things that ``InvestmentBanker'' did?

>>9508379
I like ropes. Bags a shit.

>>9508379

Play safe.

>>9508384
The issue here is that there are gigantic teams of people with MBAs working sixty hour days to try and find the opportunities before you do. Not that you can't compete because big businesses dislike a certain risk threshold and you can just chase returns, but, well, there it is.

>>9508384
The banned retard pedo tripfaggot attention-whore on /g/? I think he got himself arrested, you could try that.

>>/soc/

>>9508424

You need 3 arrows, like this:

>>>/soc/

>>9508415

Well, i'm up to some risk.
I need $0 and I want at least $1 million. Anything between is useless. And the monthly costs I have to live are paid already. My investment money is independent.
I think I will just stay checking on new companies on a daily basis. If I reduce my /jp/ time from 8 to 6 hours, I will have 2 whole hours to check on opportunities every day! I may come across something, eventually.

>>9508420

I don't know, I only visit /jp/
Is it this person? http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=&search_subject=&sear
ch_username=&search_tripcode=%2159AkbuTs8U&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_
dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=old&sea
rch_res=post

Also, was he really arrested?! What happened?

>>9508543

Why the hell do you need $1 million?

But your autismbux in bonds. They are set and forget and give better rates than a savings account. You are only fucked if the business files for bankruptcy and their liquidation can't pay you back and then your stuck with stock to a shit company. So get bonds with an established business.

>>9508543
dork

>>9508570

If I really want to do all I want, I would need at least that. For example, they started building some really nice robots lately. Kurata, or something. They are very shitty, but in some years, I will really want one! Also, I want to give some people money, because I like their work. And also, I wanted a 2hu anime that covered at least all games already launched. I would also desire to have a parallel 2hu anime, but very lewd. As I want it to be very well done, I would need quite some money.
Those are just some things I have in mind, you see? I have some other desires as well...

But I don't need any of this, so, having $0 is not a problem. But having, let's say, $400000 is useless, as I can't do anything with it

>>9508584

That sounds good. I've heard about Government bonds once. But it seems to be not too profitable. I mean, it looks better than stocks, but still far from becoming rich.

>>9508685

Well I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours.

>>9508726

Thank you

>>9508730
2D characters wouldn't like you if they were real.
You will fail at whatever you try in the future and kill yourself while crying in a corner.

Hello. If you can learn to program, you can make decent
money online.(Craigslist webdev) Unfortunately, I cannot personally program. I am a typical white guy that is only
good at English :p

>>9508952

What? I don't care about 2D characters ``liking'' me, I just want to be entertained. And why did you even get that idea from? Also, supposing things like that without basis is quite silly. And why do you say I will fail whatever I try? I don't understand your post at all...
Are you sure you wanted to quote me?

>>9506984
rsgp staking business easily 1k+ a week