[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/jp/ - Otaku Culture


View post   

File: 49 KB, 468x702, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9388220 No.9388220 [Reply] [Original]

>Stream(s)
http://www.ustream.tv/user/nyoro123
http://www.ustream.tv/user/tokinoji0123
http://www.ustream.tv/user/aochin12k
http://www.ustream.tv/user/KA_O_RU
>Porn
>Dry humping and hugging with a Hitachi magic wand
http://xhamster.com/movies/972534/kigurumi_14.html
>A lot of sitting around doing nothing but they start feeling each other up toward the end then move off cam to do more. Kinda disappointing
http://xhamster.com/movies/922062/kigurumi_10.html
>More of the same. They kinda get into a little argument though. No idea about what. Ends with cuddling and fondling
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/17044285
>Bondage and Hitachi magic wand use
http://xhamster.com/movies/1252648/kigurumi.html

>> No.9388238

Why is there no penetrative kigurumi porn?
i saw a few .gifs but that's all

>> No.9388248

>>9388238

I guess they don't want their costumes messed up by semen stains.

>> No.9388255
File: 152 KB, 433x650, Hoshi_2fS01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9388255

http://kemonoalley.blog52.fc2.com/

A lot of nice pictures here.

>> No.9388280
File: 100 KB, 800x600, dscn1478s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9388280

http://nyoro-chi.ddo.jp/top.html

>> No.9388292

I'm disappointed in you guys. I liked it when you at least claimed it wasn't necessarily a fetish, even if some people saw it that way. What happened to the FAQ?

And now it's come to this. You should be ashamed.

>> No.9388303

One more stream for the list.
http://www.ustream.tv/user/kigcasey

>>9388292

If you don't like it contribute some SFW content and take the thread back.

>> No.9388317

>>9388292

I have no idea what happened to the FAQ. The guy who made it disappeared and hasn't been posting it.

>> No.9388369

>>9388220
How does the guy untie himself?

>> No.9388378

>>9388369

There might be someone there with them.

>> No.9388761

>>9388292
I got annoyed with all the fetish stuff and barely post to the threads anymore. I get a good feeling it's the same for others

>> No.9388763
File: 63 KB, 427x640, 212615_1697573202_210large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9388763

>> No.9388826

>>9388292
>>9388761
>Complain about all the porn
>Contribute nothing and do nothing about it.

Scumbag /jp/er

>> No.9390095

>>9388826
sorry brah, but I can just go other (non anon) places, these threads were my last reason to stay on this decaying board anyway.

>> No.9390759

>>9390095

same

>> No.9391074
File: 161 KB, 634x950, _MG_0002_S.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391074

captcha: Jolly co-operation

>> No.9391082
File: 469 KB, 1024x685, _MG_050960.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391082

>> No.9391087
File: 435 KB, 1280x856, SG3 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391087

>> No.9391092
File: 126 KB, 640x960, 20101015190702.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391092

>> No.9391099
File: 147 KB, 720x960, 1331741612289.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391099

>> No.9391104
File: 83 KB, 640x960, WHPG 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391104

>> No.9391106
File: 92 KB, 480x640, NT 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391106

>> No.9391110
File: 267 KB, 730x1098, 20101219ca38.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391110

>> No.9391116
File: 79 KB, 480x720, bsp_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391116

>> No.9391121
File: 192 KB, 736x1099, wakayama20110731csm63.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391121

>> No.9391128
File: 225 KB, 480x640, 7101eed47c013c85473d43dc7c2c79ba.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391128

>> No.9391184
File: 158 KB, 480x640, MD2010m01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391184

>>9390095
Would you mind sharing a few names of Kig discussion sites? I wasn't aware that there were many, and would like to visit them.

>> No.9391374
File: 2.94 MB, 320x240, 1342551168151.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9391374

>> No.9392163

>>9391184

Seconding this request

>> No.9394130
File: 439 KB, 1037x1555, IMG_3905_R.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9394130

>> No.9394624
File: 51 KB, 600x474, Ska_naru_lounge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9394624

>>9391184
>>9392163

These are the ones that I'm aware of:
http://www.kigurumicosplay.com/
http://kigup.com/index
http://www.eurokigurumi.com/

Of those, kigurumicosplay.com is the most active. There was also http://www.rabbitinthemoon.us/ which was quite active until last year, but it appears to be dead now (the server is up, but it 404s; the forum was in decline for a while before that, because registrations had been disabled for a while and logins quit working in the last few months).

>> No.9396360

>>9388280
Nyoro is the best! I love watching her stream, her newest one with a guest was very cute.

On the other hand it's sad i wont be able to share that experience with someone.

>> No.9396370
File: 94 KB, 384x576, M89C5042_s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9396370

>>9388292

I wrote the FAQ (and hosted the mediafire account, which is still up and still hosts ALL THE PORN but no one ever links to it for some reason). Eventually I realized I was the only person ever starting threads and figured if I quit they'd just stop. Instead the threads just got worse.

Then my laptop crashed. My wife recovered the FAQ but today I'd rather let the board wallow in filth and get my fix elsewhere.

>> No.9397880

pantsu

>> No.9400324
File: 48 KB, 600x400, 006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9400324

>> No.9400390

Disgusting.

>> No.9400437
File: 39 KB, 469x428, Trollface_HD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9400437

>>9400390
jajajaja :lol:

>> No.9400452

>>9400437
I'm serious, it's creepy as hell.

>> No.9400604

>>9400324
Amazing.

Source?

>> No.9400623
File: 116 KB, 1280x720, 1342371664978.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9400623

>>9400452
If you don't like it then you can hide the thread. It is not my thing but if people enjoy it then I think it's good.

>> No.9401976
File: 77 KB, 367x490, img_981912_31083396_0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9401976

>> No.9402037

is there really no male on male kig penetration vids?

>> No.9402050 [DELETED] 

Penetration vids where?

>> No.9402156

>>9402037
>>9402050

NO, THERE ISN'T.

>> No.9402171

>>9402037
>>9402050
Now kids, lets not get curious about these things. It's best we just forget about it.

>> No.9402185

I can't help but laugh. They seem to be even less subtle with the whole sparkly satellite dish-sized eyes than in anime.

>> No.9402228

isnt it usually dudes who were these or something

>> No.9403007 [DELETED] 

http://fapdu.com/kigurumi-egg-vibrator-masturbation

>> No.9404956

Kig bump.

>> No.9404989

>>9402228
And probably ugly women too.

>> No.9405355

Not sure if want

>> No.9405479
File: 499 KB, 600x848, 20120719205145_original.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9405479

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giarDKAyRR0
I enjoyed this very much...

Any idea where she got that dress from? I would love to have one or something like it for myself.

>> No.9408025
File: 8 KB, 163x294, kigme1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9408025

>> No.9409630
File: 194 KB, 1229x922, Kigurumi_Asuka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9409630

>> No.9412994

Bump

>> No.9414803
File: 266 KB, 457x286, kigsup.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9414803

>> No.9415368

>>9405479
This one looks similar to that one. http://item.rakuten.co.jp/galaxy/yy328/

>> No.9415436
File: 62 KB, 800x600, o0800060011656117029.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9415436

>> No.9416705

>>9396370
Can you link me the mf please? My stupid internet provider hates xhamster.

>> No.9416906
File: 268 KB, 783x1073, SAM_0212_filtered.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9416906

>> No.9418295
File: 249 KB, 1015x747, Otakon2011.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9418295

>> No.9419810
File: 85 KB, 736x689, Otakon0707.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9419810

>> No.9419939

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b9HuH5QMCw

>> No.9420372

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOGg5hfIm1U

>> No.9421114
File: 96 KB, 591x436, sf06tp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9421114

>> No.9421142

>>9396360
>two grown men wear latex dresses, bondage clothes and anime masks while sitting in a cramped room doing nothing
>cute
Did the meaning of cute change? I'm pretty sure that even someone who enjoyed nyoro's streams wouldn't consider them cute

>> No.9421816
File: 36 KB, 436x653, UP8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9421816

>> No.9422361

>>9421142
Actually it depends on how you look at it and the way you see it is most certainly not cute at all.

Your loss.

>> No.9422479

>>9421114
Why? I assume this is why sigma doesn't sell to the us.

>> No.9423204
File: 206 KB, 675x825, Otakon080202.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9423204

>> No.9424425
File: 144 KB, 922x691, Otakon080112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9424425

>> No.9424696
File: 218 KB, 328x300, 4234.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9424696

>>9424425

why

>> No.9425396

>>9424696
That's just gross.

>> No.9425405

>>9424696

Is that a fraggle on the right?

>> No.9425526

>>9425405
I don't know, but I do know something he wrote before he quit:

"Kigurumi is far too small to have that kind of generalization. I am a very tame performer, and because of some recent events on another forum, strange people have found my pictures and have assumed I'm the same as the freaks because I used the word "kigurumi" in the tag section. That's why I've dropped that tag and will refer to what I do as costuming from now on. Those of us that don't want that reputation will do everything in our power to stay away from those of you trying to destroy things with your fetish. See what's already happened? A small community that's already begun to divide."

>> No.9425532
File: 556 KB, 842x1191, CIMG4208.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9425532

i managed to make some new pics today

>> No.9427347 [DELETED] 
File: 187 KB, 640x428, IMGP3235.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9427347

>>9425532

It's excellent to see you still posting! Any chance you could link to the rest or post them?

>> No.9427359
File: 187 KB, 640x428, IMGP3235.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9427359

>>9425532

It's excellent to see you still posting! Any chance you could link to the rest or post them?

>> No.9427364

which kig would u fuq?

>> No.9427436

these are spooky :P

>> No.9427743

New Kamsys video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcWvVI2oQuw

>> No.9427798

Any more frotting from the pros?

>> No.9427832

I'm usually fine with Kig threads, but goddamn OP's image looks like it'd be something out of a horror movie.
Killer dressed in Kigurumi costume to avoid identity being revealed, stalks person they're after and kills them gruesomely all while the mask has a giant smile on it's face.

>> No.9428399

>>9425532
Very glad to see you back again, been checking your page recently for new updates.

Keep up the good work!

>> No.9428628
File: 267 KB, 842x1191, CIMG4222.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9428628

>>9428399
>>9427359
oh thanks :)
i was prevented for a while and then there was this hot summer phase.

here are the new photos
http://www.kigurumicosplay.com/gallery2/thumbnails.php?album=291
The light is always bad if you take pictures at night :o

>> No.9428665

>>9416705
http://www.mediafire.com/?xtqkc2yn75u54
Is this the link you are looking for?

>> No.9429277
File: 19 KB, 500x400, ghh23.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9429277

>> No.9430068

>>9429277
the preview video:
http://video.fc2.com/en/a/content/20120626uuaYyLAN/

>> No.9430428
File: 267 KB, 1200x798, 20120401higasiyama119.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9430428

>> No.9430446
File: 259 KB, 533x800, Snow14.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9430446

>> No.9430444

argrhrhhghgh this thread.
Plushies should just be plushies, this is terrifying

>> No.9430458
File: 213 KB, 535x800, DSC_9698_20120512221418.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9430458

>> No.9430469
File: 84 KB, 664x1000, IMG_20111230_003a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9430469

>> No.9430490
File: 191 KB, 1152x1536, 1302730636474.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9430490

>>9430444
You mean to say you don't want a life-size plushy that sometimes turns into a human? You and I live in entirely different worlds.

>> No.9430557

That feel when you're part of the non-fetish minority, then people start posting threads like this.

>> No.9430868

>>9430557
As someone who enjoys both you need to realize that this is really the only place we can talk about the fetish side of things.

>> No.9432043
File: 40 KB, 375x500, Lucky Star.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9432043

>> No.9432933
File: 48 KB, 640x428, 529492_394453127279654_608920987_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9432933

>> No.9434356
File: 29 KB, 426x640, hrhi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9434356

>> No.9434382

hello im a fist time poster in /jp/.
but WHAT IS THIS!
im confused.. there chicks underneath these "kigurumis"
and im a newfag blah blah blah

>> No.9434387

>>9434382
my bad are there chicks underneath

>> No.9434412
File: 173 KB, 494x500, getoutofjp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9434412

>>9434382

>> No.9434419

>>9434382
The vast majority are men.
Leave while you can.

>> No.9434426

>>9434419
thank you kind sir

>> No.9435939
File: 77 KB, 824x618, kigtube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9435939

>> No.9435949

hi, kigs. I am just fags who love kigurumi, but sadly I don't have ones.

can you help me guys, I hardly find kigurumi website/blog with full of gallery.

all I found is site/blog from japan (i' am confused).
anyone know site/blog with english, as far as I know is www.kigurumicosplay.com

sorry if it's bother you guys.

>> No.9436338

>>9435949
Hey! Its simple, learn japanese. Thats what i'm doing right now so i can buy a mask and bodysuit and read those japanese blogs too.

>> No.9436344

I find this sexual fetish to be highly disturbing.

>> No.9436387

>>9435949
learn to browse the Japanese blogs. You don't even need to be able to read it. Just learn what to click, they have TONS of pictures.

English sites are good for instructions and details, but please don't use western typical quality as your primary examples.

>> No.9436418

>>9436344
if this was primarily a fetish there would be a lot more actual porn.
notice how the fetishists in the threads struggle to get new material

>> No.9436447

>>9435939
uhm, these are actual dolls.

>> No.9436469 [DELETED] 

>>>/cgl/

>> No.9436960

>>9436338
>>9436387
sorry i am new here ;_;

btw, thanks guys

>> No.9437387

ALIENS

>> No.9437614

Who's the genius that linked this thread from an outside source???

The amount of autists crawling in this thread is gross, what happened?

>> No.9438939
File: 46 KB, 553x340, smk-03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9438939

>> No.9439524
File: 2.88 MB, 320x240, 1326858291513.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9439524

>> No.9439544
File: 2.90 MB, 400x225, 1321174190280.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9439544

>> No.9440100

>>9437387
AND MONSTERS WERE ATTACKING HIS PLACE!

>> No.9440175

>>9439524
Haru is cute

>> No.9442357
File: 34 KB, 500x750, kiggrope.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9442357

>> No.9442990
File: 109 KB, 480x640, 0712satueikai46.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9442990

>> No.9443831
File: 79 KB, 400x644, luckystar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9443831

>> No.9446288
File: 22 KB, 375x500, 1293674891257.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9446288

>> No.9446916
File: 481 KB, 800x1202, DSC_8462.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9446916

Just so cute. I'm going to watch the K-On movie Saturday night.

>> No.9448101
File: 99 KB, 396x627, kirarakig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9448101

>> No.9448129
File: 48 KB, 320x331, noyoupieceofshit.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9448129

>>9443831
luckystar.jpg

>> No.9448465

>>9446916
I watched it, it was awesome.

>> No.9449314
File: 42 KB, 489x540, Azumanga Kig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9449314

>> No.9449379
File: 68 KB, 444x800, Sailorman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9449379

>>9448129
that made me laugh

>> No.9449814
File: 411 KB, 800x600, kiggroup.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9449814

>> No.9451698
File: 97 KB, 640x427, 0712satueikai29.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9451698

>> No.9452812
File: 253 KB, 1024x768, ndp_smars.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9452812

>> No.9453181

>>9451698
I didn't like these outfits before, but i like them now.

I think she is very cute.

>> No.9453189
File: 126 KB, 426x640, sailor moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9453189

>>9449379
More like this guy.

>> No.9454365
File: 108 KB, 576x768, unsorted_2848629.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9454365

>>9453189
okay, but the whole point is that the beard shouldn't be visible...

>> No.9455903
File: 233 KB, 480x640, 0712satueikai26.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9455903

>>9453181
I'm always glad to see new converts!

>> No.9455934

>Porn
>No Penetration

DAMN IT! Why is there no good Kigurumi porn?

>> No.9455959

>>9455934
Penetration is boring.

>> No.9456027
File: 667 KB, 682x1024, 081220hakuba84.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9456027

>>9455934
Because it's not well known and very expensive to get into.

>>9455959
I have to agree. I watch porn to see dominance and submission. The sex is unnecessary and usually unappealing.

>> No.9456560
File: 109 KB, 518x774, DSC_1381_ss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9456560

>>9455934
because realistic porn is rarely good.
And Kigurumi is meant for cosplay, to become the anime character and not for better sex.

>> No.9457543

>>9455934
no penetration?

you don't say >_>

hpsart.net

and don't ask for download link

>> No.9457682

>>9455934
The damn kig jews want us to pay for it.
PAY FOR IT!
this just proves that no one honorable has yet paid for it and we must wait longer.

>> No.9457904
File: 153 KB, 480x640, 0712satueikai27.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9457904

>>9457682
Y'know, if you lie down and close your eyes you can probably see something better than what an amateur porn studio would produce. As an added bonus it will be specifically tailored to your tastes.

>> No.9458157

>>9457543

All of that costs money :(

>> No.9458780
File: 59 KB, 338x450, 20120728090354[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9458780

Must be really hot in there!

>> No.9459059
File: 23 KB, 300x400, 1135773212628.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9459059

>>9458780
So take off all your clothes!

>> No.9460036
File: 154 KB, 774x518, DSC_1375_ss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9460036

>> No.9460051

>>9458157
yeah, and why don't you buy it and share to us.

>> No.9460921

>>9458157

Take one for the team!!

>> No.9460940
File: 52 KB, 720x396, 03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9460940

b-b-back that ass up

>> No.9460996

>>9457543

It's actually really easy to find downloads for these. The problem is that some are hosted on sites that require you to register and some were put on Megaupload.

>> No.9461020

>>9460940

http://115.com/file/anc2u7rs#

Good luck downloading.

>> No.9461287

>>9460996
I googling a day, but I can't find any.

just find like >>9461020 but I don't know how to download it

>> No.9461334

>>9461287

We got ourselves a dilemma.

I can't fap like this.

>> No.9462617

Bump because of nerfed previous.

>> No.9463795

>>9461287
>>9461020
>>9461334

are you guys even familiar to the interwebs?

1. go to dat page
2. click login
3. get pass from bugmenot
4. enter captcha
5. click green download button

>> No.9463817

>>9463795

its password protected. you have to buy the password.

>> No.9463837

>>9463795
> 2. click login

i failed there

>> No.9463850

>>9463837

top right 登录
chinese page
http://translate.google.de/#en/zh-CN/login

>> No.9463923

from what i understand from http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2F3939889.org%2F
they want 5.5 USD per movie. you have to download it via 115.com and send someone a message.. you pay per paypal and get the pass for the archive you downloaded

>> No.9467050

There might be a program out there that cracks those zip/rar passwords.

Just a thought.

>> No.9468288

juer juer.

>> No.9468480
File: 143 KB, 480x720, 1143287415206.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9468480

>> No.9468783

Anybody else notice the wand on Wyu's desk in her new video. I fapped so hard.

>> No.9469975

>>9468783
Really? You just now noticed wyu is into kigurumi for fetishes? There are quite a few photos of her tied up and even naked in some if them. Its not attractive at all and i have no idea how you can fap to that.

>> No.9470078
File: 51 KB, 544x800, 1299085555345.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9470078

>>9468783
I couldn't find it. Was it the thing that looks like a pen?

>>9469975
Lucky for me that I don't need you to understand the things I like.

>> No.9473301
File: 613 KB, 1024x768, 13007744569071.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9473301

>> No.9473349

but isnt it usually dudes who wear these things

>> No.9473433

>>9468783
Pic of this wand?

>> No.9473454
File: 177 KB, 600x1200, xxx.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9473454

>>9473349
what a story, mark

>> No.9473485

>>9473433
The video's so blurry I don't know how anyone can see anything.

>> No.9475481

bedtime bump

>> No.9475536

>>9470078
Fap to that crap all you want, i'll stick to fapping to the superior japanese kigs

>> No.9475912
File: 311 KB, 700x963, 1_20120509221852.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9475912

>>9475536
and I'll fap to both. Is there really so much kig porn that it makes sense to exclude the poor quality ones?

>> No.9477492

What happened to Wyu's website? Did she move or something?

Where'd it go?

>> No.9478228

>>9475912
Well i have low standards, but Wyu is below that.

>> No.9478691
File: 52 KB, 331x331, aliceassburgers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9478691

>>9477492

>> No.9479298

http://kigurumicosplay.com/ google wyu kigurumi, not hard

>> No.9481347
File: 88 KB, 576x864, 155_1000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9481347

>>9478228
I still don't understand. How can you have standards for kigurumi? The good ones all blend together. It's the terrible ones that I like. They just want to be cute, but due to lack of money, time or effort they never can be, and I think that's cute.

>> No.9481367

I saw a kigurumi at Otakon, if you're ITT then you were awesome.

>> No.9482053

>>9461020
do you know the password of .rar?

>> No.9483445

Moar bump.

>> No.9483631

>>9482053

Depends, did you manage to download it and are you gonna share it?

>> No.9483690

>>9483631
I already download it, 024 and 037. I can't play it because of shit password.

sadly, my internet connection is poor, it took me 3 day to finish it.

would you share the password, I beg you :(

>> No.9483827

>>9483690

I don't know the password unfortunately. You're gonna have to find a way to brute force it.

>> No.9483855

>>9483827
brute force?

how?

use rar password cracker just wasting a time.

>> No.9483890

>>9483855

No idea.

I'm not much of a tech guy.

>> No.9483994

>>9483890
>>9483855
>>9483827
>>9483690
>>9482053

no way to brute force a winrar password. it could take you years easily if you have no clue about the passords lenght, used symbols etc.

tbh, the only way would be figuring out how to buy that stuff. it seems hardly legit tho.. i don't think someone gives away his high priced video for 5USD.

>> No.9484536

w

>> No.9484759

>>9483994
I think the same way.

my last hope, can someone can translate this, any word meaning of password?
http://3939889.org/viewthread.php?tid=5624&page=1&authorid=2

>> No.9484934

wait, but isn't it usually dudes who wear these or something...

>> No.9484975

Wow, I didn't think Japanese people could hate themselves any more than they already did

>> No.9485655

>>9484975
Really? where?(−_−;)

>> No.9486196

>>9484759

Did you try "dlamn-024.rar"?

>> No.9486260
File: 122 KB, 720x960, 120706-211028.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9486260

>>9486196
I try all possible words which came of in my mind, it doesn't work either.

still searching some hope.

>> No.9487025

Anyone have some links to Wyu's lewd stuff?

>> No.9487062

>>9487025
here's some:
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/486599/edd5511301/
or do you mean the old stuff which he'd only let you see if you asked?

>> No.9487100

>>9487062
>or do you mean the old stuff which he'd only let you see if you asked?

I didn't know about this old stuff but now I want it.

>> No.9487703
File: 84 KB, 454x737, 4999417_orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9487703

>> No.9488170

>>9487100
There used to be a hidden page on his website which he would give you a username and password to see but now it 404s

>> No.9488574

>>9488170

That's a shame.

>> No.9488802

>they didn't have access to Wyu's hidden pages

LaughingGirls.jaypeg

>> No.9491141

Holy bump.

>> No.9491410
File: 201 KB, 750x1000, YuNYukariMeet67.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9491410

>> No.9491767

>>9488802

Just answer one question. Did he make any videos like this? http://xhamster.com/movies/972534/kigurumi_14.html

>> No.9491841
File: 54 KB, 341x512, SnH.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9491841

>> No.9492193

>>9491767
None that I've ever seen.

>> No.9492469

>>9473454
source?

>> No.9492670

This is the first time I open one of these kigurumi threads and thanks to you guys now I have a new fetish.

http://xhamster.com/movies/779644/kigurumi_8.html

But I want more than just some dry humping.
I'm looking for videos with penetration, handjobs and things like that. Do you guys know where I can find it?

>> No.9493099

>>9492670

http://hpsart.net/download_page/downlord_anime.html

Gotta buy them. Downloads can't be found anywhere.

Also Kigurumi dry humping > penetration

>> No.9493969

>>9493099
My favorites are heavy petting and shiny clothing. Bondage is nice too but there aren't that many videos of it.

>> No.9494139

>>9493969

Heavy petting is really nice.

>> No.9494410

>>9494139
I want to try it in real life

>> No.9496718
File: 90 KB, 480x720, Mitsuki10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9496718

>> No.9498538
File: 53 KB, 500x753, Chii ass.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9498538

>> No.9498942

Bump to avoid unfair 404.

>> No.9499244
File: 266 KB, 400x600, 090902msk04.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9499244

>> No.9499355

>>9499244

This is probably my most fapped to kigurumi.

>> No.9500096
File: 419 KB, 547x800, rym03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9500096

>>9499355
me too

>> No.9502941
File: 619 KB, 533x800, m02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9502941

>> No.9503126

Why do some of the performers constantly nod? The good performers manage to have subtle expressions but most of the less practiced ones do exaggerated unrelated gestures and nod unnecessarily during every pause. It's like they're asking the audience "You understood that I was trying to convey generic cuteness just then, right? You knew it wasn't just me failing to copy a pose I saw in an anime once, right?"

>> No.9503210

>>9503126
XD DOSE WACY JAPANEEEESE

>> No.9504169

>>9503126
yes, some overdo it .
i try to move naturaly during my live shows but still watch my posture.

>> No.9504220

>>9503210
Let us think for a moment. Was this post really necessary? Perhaps we will read our posts before submitting next time.

>> No.9505272

Bump...

>> No.9506811

>>9503126
it could be like a mini-bow, if they're japanese. That and subtly has never been a priority in japanese suit acting, just watch any sentai series and you'll see how exaggerated everything is, kigurumi stage shows too.

It is good to think about multiple ways to express your intentions/emotions though, yes.

>> No.9507391

>Bondage and Hitachi magic wand use
That was a genuine female orgasm?

>> No.9507787

>>9502941
I love this picture

>> No.9509456
File: 2.91 MB, 334x246, Funtime.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9509456

>> No.9509656

>>9506811
I meant people who just got a mask and costume and who notice that some of the good performers nod so they nod constantly. It's like they're camera shy or something.

>>9507787
Shiny dresses are probably my favorite thing in the universe

>> No.9511106

Cici is live.

Check her twitter for details. I keep getting told I'm spam trying to link.

>> No.9511154

>>9509656
I love how she posed with it. Cute and erotic at the same time.

>> No.9511184

>>9511154
>she

>> No.9511535

I know, i just like to refer to them as girls. The part i find most attractive is the fact it's actually a guy underneath.

>> No.9511570

>>9511106
Who is Cici?

>> No.9511608

>>9511570
Western performer, has a few masks from Wyu.

>> No.9512654

>>9511608
worth caring about ?

>> No.9513080
File: 94 KB, 550x827, 110822f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9513080

>>9512654

Nope. Cici has poor content. I would rather see constant updates from the better performers in the community. Nobody seems to have standards in the US since this Wyu wave of performers hit.

>> No.9513124

Does Cici do lewd things or does she just act cute on cam?

>> No.9513204

Please link penetration kig.

Thanking you.

>> No.9514587

>>9513124
neither, she doesn't know how to act.
>>9513080
these wyubots need to just go away...heck, most of the good kigs seem less interested in kigging too

>> No.9515368
File: 232 KB, 800x532, DSC_0061.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9515368

I remember a while ago Mecha mentioned that some of the clothes Kuri wore while in kig was stuff she wore every day, and that's why it looked a bit worn out. I've got nothing against Mechataku, but I don't know if I agree with that practice of wearing "every day" clothing like that. Even if your costume is in "casual wear" I still think it should be special, presentable clothing that is put together with just as much care as a cosplay outfit. Kigurumi shouldn't be as casual and homely as say, zentai (as a hobby), in my humble opinion. Does anyone else have thoughts on this? Try not to bash anyone, if you could. Just expressing my philosophy about it.

>> No.9515436

>>9514587
what kigs do lewd things on cam

>> No.9516013

>>9515368
I don't think cosplay is a requirement unless we're really trying to impress someone. It's realism.

>> No.9516017

>>9515436
>>9515436
>>9515436

>> No.9516153
File: 1.52 MB, 1288x1936, _MG_0620.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516153

>>9515368
i can understand that, and i kind of agree, but a big dampener to having a "kigurumi exclusive" wardrobe is budget. neither of us really has the money to go out and buy special clothes. i'm lucky in that the stuff i buy only gets worn when i'm in kigurumi, so it doesn't wear out as fast. when she gets clothes, she has to be able to wear it in and out of kigurumi. sucks being poor, but wanting to do a lot.

>> No.9516174
File: 831 KB, 1288x1936, _MG_0002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516174

>>9516153
she does try and get special stuff from time to time though. of course, she also enjoys dressing up without kigurumi.....so the clothes still get worn a bit

>> No.9516214

All of these Kigurumi porn performers are male, right?

>> No.9516319 [DELETED] 

/sp/ here
you guys are fucking pathetic

enjoy never getting laid and dying alone

>> No.9516324 [DELETED] 

Get a load of these nerds.

With love,
>>>/a/69629082

>> No.9516329 [DELETED] 

>>9516319
Uh... why exatly? just asking.

>> No.9516332

Any more high quality frotting?

>> No.9516338 [DELETED] 

bullies pls go

>> No.9516391 [DELETED] 

All this dry humping is fucking retarded, at least post the penetration ones, you fucking weirdos.

You fuckers are pathetic btw

>> No.9516384 [DELETED] 

/sp/ here

what

the

fuck

all my why

>> No.9516396 [DELETED] 

where the hell are the ones with the kigurumi girls getting fucked

>> No.9516395 [DELETED] 
File: 34 KB, 267x181, 1341469558787.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516395

>you will never be as autistic and depressing as /jp/

>> No.9516400 [DELETED] 

You faggots should be ashamed of yourself. Never met people as pathetic as you faggots are. Your parents must be real proud.

>> No.9516413 [DELETED] 
File: 8 KB, 250x250, 1265004526992.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516413

/sp/ here,

I would've understood if this thread about chicks wearing the Kigurumi getting fucked, since that shit is hot, yet you faggots are posting pics of men wearing this shit or dry humping the fucking floor.

And good god this board is shit

>> No.9516410 [DELETED] 

>>9516400
what are you talking about man? I came across this thread and while kigurumi is creepy for lots of people I don't get where the "pathetic" part comes from.

>> No.9516421 [DELETED] 

You know, I'm usually open to alternative sexuality, but why, /jp/? Why?

>> No.9516424 [DELETED] 

>>9516413
are there any chicks doing kigurumi porn? I thought every single one of them was male.

>> No.9516426 [DELETED] 

What's wrong with you

>> No.9516434 [DELETED] 

>>9516413
Yeah and /sp/ is /b/ with sports.

>> No.9516436 [DELETED] 
File: 50 KB, 453x435, 1325024412575.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516436

>>9516413
dude, I don't even care if they were dudes getting fucked in them but these closet faggots won't even do that. They either go hardcore or fuck off, all this garbage is just boring.

"Tee-hee just look at me wearing this, I-I feel so awesome, just look at me wear this for 30 minutes and nothing else"

BORING
AS
HELL

>> No.9516437 [DELETED] 

>/jp/

>> No.9516448 [DELETED] 

>>9516434

You wish, we actually make fun threads until the shit you make.

"WAAAA WHY AM I SO PATHETIC, SOMEBODY LOOK AT ME, I WANT ATTENTION!"

Get off your lazy ass, find a job and move out of your mom's basement, loser.

>> No.9516449 [DELETED] 
File: 43 KB, 512x380, 1342159918406.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516449

>/jp/

>> No.9516451 [DELETED] 
File: 90 KB, 288x288, 1338834071295.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516451

>/jp/

>> No.9516454 [DELETED] 

>>9516319
>>9516384
>>9516413
>/sp/ here
Wait, the entire population of /sp/ is now in this thread? I don't know how you guys managed to that, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of activity here so I am assuming that you are lying and only a few people who are bored that visit /sp/ are here.

>> No.9516459 [DELETED] 

>>9516436
I agree with that, one thing is looking at some of those Kigurumi cosplayers in YT for a minute or two with their actual teasing, and the other is a long video which is supposed to arouse but gets completely stale after the first 2 minutes.

For me is like a 20 min video with the first 15 min being a stupid blowjob.

>> No.9516460 [DELETED] 
File: 52 KB, 627x477, adrian-gonzalez-red-sox-gods-will.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516460

>the city of /jp/

>> No.9516463 [DELETED] 

>>9516448
The place is just >tfw no gf or dubs threads. Pretty much a /b/v/a/ clone.

>> No.9516467 [DELETED] 
File: 311 KB, 966x812, 1328218420266.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516467

>>9516395
lel

>> No.9516471 [DELETED] 

It's actually pretty funny, I once saw in an image that these two boards are tsundere for each other. It's entirely true.

>> No.9516478 [DELETED] 

>>9516463
>tfw no gf
We don't do that shit with gf that's more like /mu/ or /v/, we do the tfw but it's usually funny
>dubs
Only for really shitpost threads

>> No.9516482 [DELETED] 

i have been here a long time and don't get the kigurumi thing either. they are right n the uncanny valley for me.

but there's no point berating them or raiding because their minds are set on doing it.
>>>/sp/
>>>/a/

>> No.9516486 [DELETED] 

>>9516463
>/jp/

The place is just anime stream or waifu threads. Pretty much a /cm/mlp/a/ clone.

>> No.9516490 [DELETED] 

>>9516319
>>9516324
>>9516329
>>9516338
>>9516384
>>9516391
>>9516395
>>9516396
>>9516400
>>9516410
>>9516413
>>9516421
>>9516424
>>9516426
>>9516434
>>9516436
>>9516437
>>9516448
>>9516449
>>9516451
>>9516454
>>9516459
>>9516460
>>9516463
>>9516467
>>9516471
>>9516478
>>9516482
Hey you yes you! Listen to me I have a tale of what happened to /jp/! Yes, that /jp/
There once was a story of a poster who was a respected member of his anonymous community. He was diligent at keeping the peace with his fellow
Anons. Suddenly, one day he couldn't handle the influx of off topic posting. This off topic drove anon mad! He then decided to use his quick wit and irony he made defamatory remarks and wud tell ppl 2 suk dik rofl thn he shitposted so hard nerds flt it in their colons xDdd he ended da day makin an epic new memes

>> No.9516492

>>9516459
>For me is like a 20 min video with the first 15 min being a stupid blowjob.
I heard is because them guys take too long to get hard, why? maybe they got too used to the job that they no longer feel any stimulation.

>> No.9516496 [DELETED] 
File: 1.47 MB, 320x180, 1333589196060.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516496

Hey man, at least these guys aren't fucking little kids...

>> No.9516499 [DELETED] 

Japs are so fucking boring with their porn, if this was done anywhere else it would involve the kigurumi player getting fucked

>> No.9516503 [DELETED] 
File: 11 KB, 287x303, 1328220910548.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516503

dnt worry guise, lel her 2 sav form weabus

>> No.9516504 [DELETED] 
File: 722 KB, 400x222, 1333557162822.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516504

>>>/jp/9514027

>> No.9516517 [DELETED] 
File: 22 KB, 654x431, 1343275767568.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516517

HUMOROUS BRONZE

>> No.9516507 [DELETED] 

wow what an autistic board

>> No.9516508 [DELETED] 
File: 69 KB, 311x283, 1329445995013.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516508

>>>/jp/9514027
>>>/jp/9514027
>>>/jp/9514027
>>>/jp/9514027
>>>/jp/9514027
>>>/jp/9514027
>>>/jp/9514027

COMEDY GOLD

>> No.9516510 [DELETED] 
File: 1.14 MB, 800x800, 1338599067242.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516510

Oh man I love late night beta threads

>> No.9516512 [DELETED] 
File: 41 KB, 383x661, Tony - WHY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516512

>> No.9516524

>>9516499
there are always pros and cons in any porn, my problem with the japanese is 90% of their porn having always a "rape" or "submission" theme, stupid japs can't get off unless they see some humilliation.

>> No.9516525 [DELETED] 
File: 1000 KB, 450x253, hype.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516525

/sp/ we da bes mayne

we deed it

>> No.9516526 [DELETED] 
File: 312 KB, 1440x956, 195826.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
[ERROR]

>> No.9516521 [DELETED] 
File: 41 KB, 383x661, Tony - WHY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516521

>> No.9516523 [DELETED] 

I need to fap, one of you /jp/ betas help with finding some decent godamn kigurumi porn

>> No.9516528 [DELETED] 
File: 51 KB, 360x360, 1302928076268.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516528

LGTSS

>weeaboos

>> No.9516532 [DELETED] 
File: 17 KB, 545x503, 1328918786211.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516532

COMICAL SILVER

>> No.9516535 [DELETED] 
File: 12 KB, 177x278, What 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516535

>/jp/

>> No.9516539 [DELETED] 

>/jp/ mods in charge of letting newcomers have discussion as well

what's our favorite Kigurumi guys?

>> No.9516542 [DELETED] 

I can't sleep tonight thanks to this

>> No.9516547 [DELETED] 

>>9516539
>mods
Janitor. One.

>> No.9516564 [DELETED] 

The janitor will delete this post.

>> No.9516561 [DELETED] 
File: 28 KB, 309x421, ewwnigga.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9516561

>> No.9516593

>>9516524
Yeah, it seems like there always has to be such an element. A girl can be depicted as really wanting sex, but once it starts you will get ”Ah! no! Not… there!”.
It’s a cultural thing that has bothered me in all these years of reading H manga and occasionally watching JAV.

>> No.9517723

Bump...

>> No.9518665
File: 64 KB, 800x600, 594b826e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9518665

>> No.9518717

>>9518665
source?

>> No.9518799

>>9518717
kamsys I think.
http://blog.livedoor.jp/kamsys/archives/cat_50035144.html

>> No.9519841
File: 91 KB, 598x900, 530049_338978832854680_446973285_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9519841

>> No.9519947

>>9518665
whats with the foil? thats silly

>> No.9520065
File: 685 KB, 600x800, rym02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9520065

>>9519947
sexily silly

>> No.9520071
File: 103 KB, 640x960, 391661_331283036960383_561105227_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9520071

I was actually just looking at mecha's stuff the other day, i myself am not a big fan of the mask but some of the outfits are quite cute.

this being one of my favorites.

>> No.9520945

>>9520071

That wig makes me want to cry.

>> No.9523027
File: 156 KB, 600x800, 1ae337aeb6c4e790f1d8fc49357a14cc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9523027

>> No.9523038
File: 1.27 MB, 1288x1936, _MG_0299.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9523038

>>9520945
makes me cry too....way too thick, pain in the ass to manage.....needs to be redone

>> No.9523238
File: 958 KB, 900x1200, 20120519_m048.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9523238

>>9516153
thanks for the response. That I can understand, budget really makes things difficult. I wish we could all be like those japanese hyper-nerds that can somehow afford the best cameras and cosplays.

>> No.9523325
File: 1.26 MB, 1288x1936, _MG_0311.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9523325

>>9523238
it helps that they also live in the source country for all the high quality gear, don't have to pay all the overseas shipping charges etc.

>> No.9523346
File: 185 KB, 1061x891, 1341859131830.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9523346

I have lurked the Kigurumi threads since it started to be a General on /jp/ occasionally chiming in. I'm so glad there are streamers now. I've watched every video I can find and seen a lot of pictures and streams. I'm a lonely person.. pretty much the stereotypical shut-in although I am underage until later this month. It depresses me sometimes when I think about how I'll never be able to hang out with one in person or be close friends with one but at least I can still watch and dream.! I don't like the naughty stuff though, Kigurumi's have always been cute and innocent in my mind. I love you guys!

>> No.9524045

How do you go to the bathroom in any of this?

This honestly confuses me.

>> No.9524061

Generally you don't go to the bathroom while in kig

>> No.9524333

>>9523325
yes, i buy my stuff mostly from chinese sellers, some have okay quality but it still looks different from high quality stuff.
I would pay a higher price for better quality but most japanese shops.. well they are all in japanese and not english and do not sell overseas, at least i could not find any so far.

>>9524045
you go before you put on your cosplay, most zentai suits don't have a crotch opening.

>> No.9524538
File: 45 KB, 537x720, 562785_458233127530267_1676295234_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9524538

>> No.9524541
File: 76 KB, 480x640, o0480064012118895317.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9524541

>> No.9524542
File: 68 KB, 581x778, o0581077812118895316.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9524542

>> No.9524544
File: 89 KB, 581x778, o0581077812118895438.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9524544

>> No.9526888
File: 98 KB, 664x1000, 12051601.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9526888

>> No.9526897 [DELETED] 
File: 28 KB, 771x739, mene.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9526897

>> No.9526901 [DELETED] 
File: 42 KB, 640x480, 1338231585555731.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9526901

ei satana wtf is this Mage?

>> No.9528047

Awesome...

>> No.9530395
File: 94 KB, 638x960, 120508-191632.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9530395

>> No.9531276
File: 51 KB, 426x640, 002_20101008160035.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9531276

Does anyone get interested with "kigurumi maskoff"?
I do.

>> No.9532288

>>9531276

I love it. I would kill for a video of a person starting off naked or in under wear and then getting into zentai, costume, and finally kig.

>> No.9533578
File: 43 KB, 480x640, Precure Kigs (31).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9533578

>> No.9533939
File: 488 KB, 1339x569, derp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9533939

>> No.9534089

>>9533939
Why don't they understand that Wyu masks are shit?

I wish the western community didn't suck so bad... There are a few nice people that know what they are doing but others just really fuck it up.

>> No.9534118

>>9534089
i honestly am torn on the wyu masks. wyu herself wears them quite well, when she doesn't do stupid stuff like not wear her zentai. but the big problem is most of the people she sells to don't know how to take care of them, or just don't give a crap about improving how they look.

>> No.9534153

>>9534118
Very True, i remember someone earlier posted a picture of before and after pics of some of the masks that were bought. It was just terrible.

>> No.9534165
File: 51 KB, 604x453, 561440_256143091143007_100002419554737_544002_152207900_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9534165

>>9534118

They all look the same. It's like Attack of the Clones only with badly designed anime masks.

>> No.9534180
File: 97 KB, 525x514, hikari_ptleo_240212_3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9534180

Wyu customers are the worst.

>> No.9534222

>>9534180
>>9534165
really bad part is they bitch about if they suck that bad why doesn't anyone help them....because when we try to help them they get all pissy about it. they can't take being told they need to fix something

>> No.9534223
File: 177 KB, 667x1000, IMG_20120729_047.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9534223

>>9534180
>>9534165

They have no concept of moe.

>> No.9534235

>>9534222
thing is, i've TRIED helping them before... people have TRIED helping ganon before..... they just pretty much ignore any constructive advice because they still have fanboys who go crazy for any person who has a mask regardless of its quality

>> No.9534249

>>9534223
Now that's moe.

>> No.9534266
File: 22 KB, 403x403, 389164_301307716632393_996825726_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9534266

>>9534235

I remember Miharu trying to help Ganon for a period of time. Too bad Ganon didn't listen.

>> No.9534510

>>9534223

source please

>> No.9534521
File: 86 KB, 612x816, 120516214752-o0612081611976657587.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9534521

Fact: Miina is the best kig.

Also by virtue of not having a penis.

>> No.9534759

>>9531276
I was wondering, I've met a few people through this community who seem to have a thing for masking/de-masking and things like that. Can you explain the appeal? Pictures with the mask off can be cute, but I don't understand when people have a big focus on the taking off or putting on process.

>> No.9534868
File: 55 KB, 411x616, koha090509_016.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9534868

>>9534759

I think it's the mystery of what lies beneath combined with the common arousal and intimacy that removing clothing is associated with.

>> No.9534879
File: 82 KB, 411x616, koha090509_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9534879

>> No.9534922

>>9534879
I wish i could put on that other kig with her...

>> No.9534995
File: 639 KB, 1728x2592, 545990265.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9534995

Honestly I think Cici is probably the best performer who's bought a wyu mask so far.

I'd say don't give up trying to help newbies. Yes, some are (literally) too autistic to take advice, but so many more are well-meaning. I wish I could help out more person, because explaining really simple shit over the internet is difficult.

Too many people think a mask doesn't come with maintenance, despite the readily available information. Perhaps care/etiquette guides need to be more on the forefront? People NEED to know what they're getting into before purchasing a mask. A lot of recent folks don't even browse the japanese sites, so they don't even have a clue about what the best is supposed to look like. Their only mental idea of the hobby is a casual "act like an anime girl in chats and live stream with a mask on".

I think the western kigurumi culture needs to be shifted away from the direction it's gone in the past few years before a real improvement can be seen. It's not anyone's fault that some of the earliest Wyu-forumers decided to adapt honorifics and a naive way of behaviior. But people have to be more present in the community even if it means just increasing the amount of people who initiate good and constructive discussion. Letting them stew in their own banality won't help anyone and will only cause like-minds to feel right at home. Just my thoughts.

>> No.9535013
File: 112 KB, 327x440, off26.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9535013

>>9534995

good luck with that

>> No.9535036

>>9534995
keep up the dialog...
Silly people... try and out yourselves and not hide behide the walls of ignorance...
go ahead give me your worst.. hahaha

>> No.9535057

>>9535036
I honestly can never understand your posts.

All the periods and tabs don't help much either.

>> No.9535060
File: 2.98 MB, 243x218, 1326866275121.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9535060

This is officially the worst kigurumi thread ever.

>> No.9535077

>>9535060
They have been quite shitty as of late.

>> No.9535104

>>9535036
I say nothing out of disrespect, Cici.
I think thoughtful discussion is important to any and every hobby. How can we look inside and improve ourselves without it? We are performers, and the chatrooms and forums are our backstage. A healthy artistic community needs available resources, tutorials, AND critiques. We have these things, but I believe they need more visibility.
I suppose one sticking point is that the community is slow, not much happens. The empty time zones between big projects get filled with nothing of meaning. We should fill that time with more discussion of suit acting, cosplay resources, wig-care, the latest from japan, personal performance philosophies, plans for the future! I'm not saying these discussions DON'T happen, they do... but it feels few and far between.

>> No.9535102
File: 53 KB, 400x599, sapporomyu03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9535102

>>9535077

Agreed.

>> No.9535108

>>9535036
I'm not "trolling", I'm not trying to grief anyone. I simply have frustrations about this hobbyist community not feeling like a hobbyist community at all. It's important to have fun, but we can't prioritize the hurt feelings of the sensitive or a fantasy, escapist mindset over actually talking about what people need to improve. I think the community is a bit mixed up because the "audience" is always blended in with the "actor". It's great to talk to fans, but the performers themselves cannot think like a fan. Watching and doing is COMPLETELY different. Even anonymously here, retoric gets muddled with the fetishists (fans) adding their own biased input. Not that they shouldn't be able to talk amongst themselves, but I think that people forget that we should understand the difference between being on stage, being in the audience, and being backstage. Don't mistake that for saying maskers should be elitist, not at all. I suppose to boil it down: fans get the idea that kigurumi is nothing more than "playing pretend for fun", and when they drop half a grand on a mask, they take that idea with them and it shows in their presentation. Actors are supposed to make a show LOOK like fun and games, but any seasoned masker knows what needs to be done behind the scenes (and behind the mask) to create a quality performance.

>> No.9535170
File: 132 KB, 577x720, 311596_324290860994896_2095860195_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9535170

>> No.9535177
File: 140 KB, 591x720, 558414_324377790986203_922064259_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9535177

>>9535036

Your suit is ill fitting. Colors do not match and the bathsuit chosen is not flattering. Before posting content give more thought to the content being posted. Does this look professional, clean and have a good flow throughout the photo? Arm warmers and cat ears can only do so much and can sometimes work against you. Your biggest issues is lighting, your suit and matching outfits.

>> No.9535359

>>9534223
now thats a Kigurumi in perfection, thats the image i strive for.
But sadly i can never reach it, although i am not very manly its impossible to produce the picture of the petite anime girl for me and there is no way to change that.

>> No.9535444
File: 1.12 MB, 1920x2560, fc2lu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9535444

>>9535359
I COULD pull it off, but can't afford it ;_;

>> No.9535457
File: 44 KB, 480x720, 562723_128887943921927_1245903862_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9535457

>> No.9535810

>>9535457
where are these pics coming from? they only seem to pop up here

>> No.9536820

>>9535810
Well that's a facebook filename.

>> No.9536943

>>9535077
was there a time when they were good?

>> No.9536994

wyuchat spectators stop looking and start contributing to the thread

>> No.9537140

>>9534223
I what to know what the character is this?

>> No.9537546

>>9536943
Yes.

>> No.9537615
File: 107 KB, 518x774, 120601_0042_S.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537615

>>9536994
sorry, I don't have anything more to add.
anons stop spectating and be more honest in the non-anon community.
i'll even fight to not get you banned for being critical.

>> No.9537721

>>9537615
>banned for being critical

What kind of retardation is this?

>> No.9537727
File: 113 KB, 427x640, 572_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537727

>>9537615

I'm the anon that said what was wrong with Cici's content. I'm not going to openly give anybody critique. After seeing how Cici acted after having the issues pointed out I feel it is pointless and a lost cause. If you try to help people publicly in this community you are made into a "drama" monger according to those who you try to help. Nobody really wants true critique in this community but the few who already aspire to be better. The others including most Wyu mask owners just want to circle jerk.

>> No.9537743

>>9537721
well okay, that wouldn't happen. but I would totally have anyone's back if they participated in the community constructively even if someone got their feelings hurt.

The only way for things to change is to be more vocal than the current userbase.

>> No.9537761

>>9537727
well, we could use a larger critical community, at least. forget the ones who don't listen. there are some who are plenty willing to listen, they just never get the chance to because no one speaks up. I've spoken to many members privately and they've thanked me for my honest input. I think speaking through more private means is the best bet for now, it avoids embarrassment and shows the recipient that you mean them well.

>> No.9537780

In fact, the more people that speak up (in a kind way) the more the hyper-sensitive ones will make themselves look like idiots for overreacting. If they ragequit the fandom just because of some polite advice, nothing of value would be lost anyway.

>> No.9537819
File: 42 KB, 350x525, _MG_0077.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537819

>>9537761

I gave honest input and Cici paraded around to each chat mocking that input. I don't want to deal with the drama so I'll just keep my views anonymous.

>> No.9537828
File: 100 KB, 479x720, Sonyaplaza (26).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537828

>>9537743
i remember one time i called someone out on wyu's site for claiming they were a kigurumi, but all they had done was stolen pictures from a japanese kig. they weren't too happy about that, next day i had a PM from a forum member bitching me out and threatening to get me banned...

>> No.9537840

One more: it doesn't have to be in a chatroom or anything either. There are many forum threads with self-posts. If you're shy about a personal note or don't want to cause drama in a chat: post in a thread with your critique of the images. Obviously, use discrepancy - convention photos should be judged by post and gaze, not so much but photography skills - but it's a great way to give your thoughts on a performance that a lot of people neglect, I think.

>> No.9537870
File: 60 KB, 400x600, koha060817_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537870

>>9537840

No thank you.If anybody starts now then they'll be attacked by Wyu's community. Again, don't want drama.

>> No.9537876
File: 275 KB, 900x900, 120216_wfad_03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537876

>>9537819
Cici seems a bit defensive, yeah. Too many people are focused on the ideas of "trolls" and "haters" but the fact of the matter is that people that don't like kigurumi generally don't give enough of a shit to comment. The people who go out of their way to comment are the one's that do it because they CARE. (or have a personal vendetta, but that's another story entirely)

Going around boasting because you ignored some critical comment isn't winning against trolls, it's hubris and being blind to the fact it's not just people trying to grief you.

>>9537828
That's pretty retarded.

>> No.9537884
File: 68 KB, 325x487, 120801_homu_an_14.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537884

>>9537870
I don't think letting things remain the same is the solution, but all right.

>> No.9537908
File: 143 KB, 479x720, Sonyaplaza (7).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537908

>>9537615
i also feel that the anonymous nature of 4chan is somewhat of a good thing. yea, there's the trolls that show up sometimes saying "you look bad and you should feel bad!" or the like, but i've actually gotten quite a bit of good constructive criticism from here. sure i'll get people from time to time offering critiques in private chats, but it doesn't happen often. it's refreshing sometimes for a little unsolicited thoughts. i tried making a kigurumi critique group on facebook, but it just doesn't really get used that often.

>> No.9537915
File: 142 KB, 900x600, koha060817_017.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537915

>>9537884

I wouldn't really say it's letting things remain the same. I think it's more giving up on a lost cause and focusing more on getting the better performers to produce content.

>> No.9537921
File: 226 KB, 1556x1037, IMG_4931.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537921

>>9537908
I suppose the man problem is that people feel they HAVE to be anonymous for that sort of thing.

>> No.9537932
File: 179 KB, 864x1296, IMG_2285.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537932

>>9537915
Ah, makes sense. I hope more talented young individuals join in. I mainly worry that the atmosphere of the most active forum will breed more of the same at faster rates.

>> No.9537933
File: 61 KB, 411x616, koha090509_003.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537933

>>9537921

It can't be helped when your mad out to be a monster for trying to help. It's often seen as pushing yourself and views onto the person your trying to help. It is also looked at as you saying your better than the person being helped.

>> No.9537939
File: 92 KB, 924x616, koha090509_033.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537939

>>9537932

I worry about the same thing anon.

>> No.9537966

What the community needs is a place where you can give advice anonymously and this is the closest thing to that...

Should avoid some of the drama. A more official setup would be nice.

>> No.9537972
File: 1.16 MB, 1936x1288, _MG_0196.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9537972

>>9537921
>>9537933
i can admit that when i've gotten non-anon advice in the past, there was a time or two that i got hurt feelings about it. at least when people act anonymous you have no one specifically to be mad at, and that butthurt goes away a lot faster.

>>9537932
might be slightly unrelated, but one thing i've kinda noticed is a lot of people that make regular cosplay, and are really good, tend to be very forthcoming in their construction techniques. however, on the kigurumi side, i seem to notice the words "trade secret" cropping up a little more often than properly should. i understand that some people want to make money with masks or bodysuits, but those same cosplay makers that share how they do what they do seem to STILL get commission requests. you might see a slight dip in sales, but fact is it takes a bit of skill (and time)to make masks or sew suits. you're still gonna get a lot of people coming to you to buy stuff

>> No.9538005
File: 1.15 MB, 1288x1936, _MG_0253.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9538005

>>9537966
i was actually thinking something exactly like that. maybe a forum or something where the admins are the only ones who have access to usernames, everyone else only sees "anonymous"? that way there is something of a grief control, but there's still a sense of anonymity so people are more willing to speak their minds? it's a rough idea sure.....

>> No.9538010

>>9537972
Love that outfit sonya is wearing there.

>> No.9538020
File: 67 KB, 768x1024, 20120707012643eae.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9538020

>>9537972

Who has used the phrase trade secret recently? Most people don't share how they do things because it's common knowledge now. If you can't find the "know how" then your not looking hard enough. I don't see how this is an issue. The issue is the quality of the community and how people have a issue accepting critique. Wyu tried introducing that knowledge to the community and you've seen what came of that.

>> No.9538072
File: 130 KB, 350x525, tscdp167.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9538072

>>9538005

Even admins talk. There's even proof of that. Most figure heads in this community can't go two seconds without talking trash about someone or something somebody did. Does nobody else remember the log of Wyu putting down the English community for "causing drama". Saying that we were "Dangerous". I honestly think 4chan is an ideal place for good critique of individuals where people don't have to worry about the backlash of being honest about others performances. Yes, there will be trolls but if you ignore trolls they have nothing to feed on and eventually leave.

>> No.9538083
File: 1.15 MB, 1936x1288, _MG_0226.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9538083

>>9538020
it was in a private chat with someone, talking about an overseas seller they're a friend with. the way it was worded in our conversation reminded me of some stuff i had heard from wyu years ago (before he really exploded in popularity) about how they're concerned mostly with the bottom dollar. plus some interactions with other sellers and the way i've sometimes had issues getting information about what they do rang a similar bell all-in-all. japan side seems pretty forthcoming of techniques, but that's all in japanese, and auto-translation will only take me so far.... plus there's always new ways of doing things, so it can be nice to learn about something other people might not have thought about.

>>9538010
planning on putting together some slightly more elaborate outfits for this year's renfest. been planning them for a while, but have only made some slight progress (sewing practice projects had to come first). hopefully we'll have stuff done soon, local renfest starts in about a month or so

>> No.9538086
File: 64 KB, 299x450, 20120322012451.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9538086

>>9538020
Yeah, the way to do most things IS findable. Any dig through the forums will find you just about everything, even if some bits are harder than others. I think it's that those things aren't necessarily on the forefront? The actual forum posts are still by FAR the most constructive part of the website, and there's good stuff in there, but the community attitude is still removed from that most of the time. But maybe it's less of a problem than we make it out to be? It's mainly just a small group of poor content producers. Perhaps we really do just need to focus on bringing in new talent and the current talent producing more content. I think a comprehensive "How To" and "What is Actually Involved in Looking Good" guide would be great, there's a few things LIKE that scattered about... but it's mostly just about the unspoken rules.

I'm remembering a really helpful blog post by a japanese(?) member talking about how to do a successful outdoors shoot. That was really great and we need more things like that.

It's difficult because the hobby combines acting, photography, cosplay, tons of stuff that you need to be aware of and practice at. I think the community needs to focus MORE on the fact that it IS acting and it IS photography and it IS arts and crafts. These are the things people should be aware of about the hobby, not just the "fan" viewpoint of "omg a club of cute anime girl make-believe"

>> No.9538098

>>9538072
yea, it was a rough idea for sure. nice on paper, but when you bring the real logistics of it in, it starts falling apart real fast.

not sharing a picture this time, starting to get tired of self-spamming

>> No.9538113

>>9538072
but the english community IS dangerous, to an extent. The biggest enemy is ourselves. People with great opinions get caught up arguing about miniscule details of definition or kig philosophy instead of being REALLY constructive. It's just being human, and I won't fault anyone for doing it, but for all this talk of people getting offended and freaking out, we ARE dangerous.
People definitely need to chill out. It's not a crime to voice your opinions on other people, I don't think.

>> No.9538122
File: 104 KB, 427x640, 0612satuei04.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9538122

>>9538086

If everybody has a issue with the general response Wyu's board gives why don't we push for another board to be more active?

>> No.9538137

>>9538086
i'll admit i have honestly been a little more lazy within the past year or so in actively looking for the english-ready information. i keep up with what the japanese share but pictures only get so far

i believe the blog post you were talking about was written by TAKA, and casey from australia translated the whole thing to english. it was a really good read, i think it'd be great if more japanese information pages were translated. though i'll admit ignorance if there is more translated stuff out there, particularly if it's only been shared on wyu's forums.

big key word i like to use is "performer" all of us are first and foremost performers. we perform as our characters, everything we do is a performance....and to perform you need to practice, and look to your peers for input on how you do. there is too much of a lack of that mentality, as you mentioned

>> No.9538141
File: 50 KB, 427x640, 0805satueikai07.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9538141

>>9538113

I haven't seen anybody pushing for their "ideal of what kigurumi is" lately but rather for better content. I think a lot of people confuse the two however.

>> No.9538146
File: 38 KB, 600x400, 1207774662489.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
9538146

>>9538122
also a solid idea.

>> No.9538161

>>9538122
>>9538146
solid idea, but difficult. we've essentially painted ourselves into a corner just by shear numbers. there's too few out there that would make effective use of a full blown new forum. or at the very least it would last for optimistically a year before it turned into how wyu's forums are now. though rabbit's forums probably were never as bad as wyu's are as far as mentality, it also had some issues with "kigurumi can do no wrong". being said, i will support any moves to create a new forum. never hurts to try after all!

>> No.9538168

>>9538161

Why not take it to Kigup's forums?

>> No.9538170

>>9538137
I think a vocabulary switch would be nice. It seems trivial, but language is SO important in attitude. If we talk about kigurumi performers as though they're some kind of magical entity that you can transform into "im a kig now!", the way things are approached are going to be way different than if we choose words like performer and cosplayer. Not that it's wrong to be whimsical about things (referring to your costume or character in ways other than just calling it an "it") but general attitudes are really swayed just by linguistics, in my opinion.

>>9538161
Tsuki's forum, maybe? it's so tragically deadish.

>> No.9538175

>>9538161

Creating a new forum only dilutes numbers. There are already too many existing in the community currently.

>> No.9538182

>>9538170

Tsuki has a forum?

>> No.9538187

>>9538182
http://kigup.com/index

the UI is kind of clunky but it's a very fresh pallet compared to Rabbit's or Wyu's. Unfortunately that means it doesn't have the same depth of information already there.

>> No.9538198

>>9538187

I believe Miharu owns that domain. I think it's interesting that you see it as under Tsuki's ownership but whatever. I think this is a good idea. Let's start by building up the missing info on that website. I think Tsuki did a good job by starting that with the mask maker and suit maker masterlist. Every person who contributes helps create a brighter and more insightful community. I think there is even a constructive critique section if I remember correctly.

>> No.9538211

I'd love to post on kigup.

>> No.9538223

>>9538211

Starting tomorrow let's focus on building back up information and content. Let's focus on making it a content heavy forum with useful information to newcomers.

>> No.9538224

>>9538198
Co-ownership, whatever. details, details.

Good ideas. I know the chatroom there is already pretty active, more attention can be brought to the forums that way.

>> No.9538229

>>9538170
linguistics is a big part of it. it's perfectly acceptable to see your character as "real" and develop a "life" for it, but it's also really important to have a foot in reality. that very character you give life to will only suffer and wilt if not given the nourishment that real life information offers.

sonya is both real and seperate from me (personality) but at the same time intrinsically one with me. ie, i AM sonya, i control and determine how she is seen, but sonya is not me, when she is out (i am performing her) she exists as her own personality. it allows me to gain information in a healthy way, as well as still maintaining the depth of character that the "roleplaying" side of things offers.

>> No.9538235

>>9538224

Agreed. There has been a lot of performers there lately from Wyu's forum so don't be too discouraged. If we keep at it we can build a better community with our efforts.

>> No.9538249

>>9538235
Yeah, cici has brought a lot of the Wyu people. Letting them see a better community could greatly change their mindset on things. Which is good.

>> No.9538273

Nice to see people being more positive!
I think Passion is the most important thing here. Apathy and defeat are the worst that can happen.

>> No.9538350

>>9538224

Tsuki's just a mod.

>> No.9538427

See you all on kigup i guess.

>> No.9538934

>>9538427
I'd rather die than contribute to that dried up old tranny's ego.
As bad as the current forum is, I can't imagine anything worse than Miharu.

>> No.9539039

Bump!!!

>> No.9539244

just a question seen as you guys seem to be more (properly) critical that the community outside of 4chan

okay here it is do you guys think its okay to do kigurumi iff you're not really thin? id like to do it in the future but im not exactly blessed with a body like Mechatakus :(
The character i want to do isn't exactly petite (picture attached) what do you guys think,
should i quit while i'm ahead or should i give it a go?

one thing id like to point out is theres nothing worse than a half assed kigurumi so I'd try and do it the best i could (japanese mask and such)

maximum image amount reached apparently so I'll link it: http://www.zerochan.net/190229

>> No.9539364

>>9539244
If you are prepared to put in the necessary effort, you should definitely do it. You don't have to be skinny to be cute.

We don't dislike Ganon because he's fat, we dislike him because he puts no effort into his kigurumi.

>> No.9539501

I have a great suggestion. Instead of searching for kigurumi thread in 4Chan or using wyu forum, why not someone create a main huge kigurumi forum where people all over (including japanese) can discuss kigurumi stuffs. Something like furaffinity for furries.

>> No.9539874

criticized me, i dare you.
But be objective ;)
I never hear anything bad, so i am not sure what i do is good or not, i mostly make pictures at night time , so i have problems with light and i only have a normal casio digital camera.

I am waiting for a convention this month , there are so few in my range and i don't even have a car >.< .
however, i want to improve myself to make a good impression when in public and i was no so satisfied with last time.
>>9537727
and where do we get a cosplay like that, the red dress i mean.
I am looking for a japanese cosplay shop for a while now but always end up at chinese sellers.
I don't even know if they ship to EU or not because they don't have their shop page in english.
when i search on ebay its always the same stuff from every one as well, you can't even tell if the photo they show is accurate or not.


image limit reached :O

>> No.9540311

new thread?

>> No.9540632

>>9538934

Hostile much? What did Miharu ever do to you?

>>9539501

It would only be seen as starting another forum. Kigup and Kigurumi Cosplay both have content submission areas plus I think the most influential people in the community can't come down off their high horses enough to contribute to anybody but their own websites. The issue with this community is that most are treating it like a popularity contest. I.E. "If I only help people and post content on my website then I become to prettiest and most popular cheerleader."

>>
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action