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Actually haven't even gotten around to try it. It sounds kind of interesting.

Was GoS the first one, or was it a sequel to something else?

Thanks for reminding me bro, gonna go clear stage 17 now.

The drop rate still sucks, but Satori's learning a lot of skills for some reason.

>>9468947
Are you using GoS: Weekend?

>>9468956
Nope, the regular one.

>>9468935
I still play DoD occasionally, but all that's is left is to get all monster shikigami, some overpowered weapons and armor, and train up everyone to 99, but that's all tedious and unnecessary. Other than that, I've played DoD to death. I'm just looking forward to their new game: http://www.gensoukyou.org/nagiri/

>>9468956
Hopefully the translation patch for that comes out soon. I wouldn't mind replaying GoS with of all those amazing drop rate changes.
Also, I just remembered that I've yet to clear the DoD postgame, too.

stopped playing at the final boss of Lingering Summer Heat. Can't be arsed to figure him out. I feel somewhat bittersweet about the whole game.
Haven't really touched DoD.

I beat Lithos a week or two ago.
I was quite underleveled so instead of trying to figure out the final boss I started grinding a bit, scanning everything with Aya, getting missed treasure chests...
I have no idea what I'll do against the three sisters, much less against the second phase. 110 hours already and there's still Zansho after this.

>>9468981
Oh, a new game. I don't know what it looks like going only by the screenshots.

I finally got around to playing Labyrinth of Touhou, so I am going to go to sleep and get back to that. After I beat that, my next game to play should be finished this up.

Speaking of doujin games, does anyone else still play remidoki? I beat Remilia's story mode a few days ago and am now completing Flandre's.

Lost interest in it after /jp/ stopped talking about it. It was the last good thing about this board that kept me coming here. Now there's no where to discuss it, not even Poosh.

I just kind of got bored with it partway through, happens to me with all RPGs.

>>9469094
There is a thread about it there, but it's about as dead as you'd expect.
The DoD one is more active, though.

Kagami is too strong, I'm trying my best to grind to late 50s so I get Reimu's barrier and Aya's dodge field spell.

Genbu's Lake feels really slow to grind, and I don't really want to go back into Lakebed Temple.

Where can i download GoS?

>>9470245
Look for the past threads in the archive. OP had various links.

It's a bit confusing, last time I looked into playing this I felt like it wasn't clear what I was supposed to play. I think there was GoS, a remake to GoS, DoD, and an expansion to one or more of the above things. Where should I start?

>>9470262
First there was GoS (Version 1.X)
Then came GOS` Expansion (Version 2.X)
Then there was DoD, a completely different game, followed by its expansions.

Get GoS Version 2.09 and its english patch, as DoD hasn`t been fully translated yet.

>>9470361
What about the GoS expansions?

>>9470366
Version 2.09 was the last update to the game, so it should include every expansion released.

>>9470377
I believe I have 2.09 and I heard there was actually things to do at Marisa's house in the expansion. When I went there there was nothing..

>>9470400
Well I haven't played V2.09 as I cleared the game in V2.06, but maybe those things at Marisa's house get unlocked later in the game. When you revisit the forest of magic

>>9469309
> Kagami
> late 50s
The final boss isn't hard in late 50-early 60, and it's 3 large levels away. There is no need to grind anything in GoS and that's why i liked it. Everything is doable at low levels/randomly dropped gear.
GoS is the game about planning battles out (tho it's possible to overgear/level bosses, but is that fun?).

One tip for Kagami: mystic damage.
And another, general one: buffs cap at 100 IND

>>9470458
I have nothing to say to Hyper Fang Crusher with my level 43ish party. Reimu's Super Duper AoE Duplex seems like a requirement to me. Last time I tried to Little Legion it, Alice instantly dropped, might've been an equipment issue, but I'm not so sure.

Am I right in guessing that the dialogue in this remains untranslated?

>>9470542
You'd be grossly incorrect.

>>9470542
Unless you mean the remake or the sequel, no you are not.

>>9470548
>>9470551
So there's an actual translation patch or fully translated script files?

>>9470569
There's a patch yes.

>>9470511
>Alice instantly dropped
That's impossible. Not vs Kagami. Properly geared alice can survive Muscle Revolution, something like Hyper Fang Crusher can't be a problem. Even with shit gear.

Give her Slash Resistance gear, decent shield and armor.
Take Sanae. give her some IND gear. Buff Pdef and Eva (and MATK). Use Skydance formation(because you can kill 2 others with 7 chars easily). Ressurect important party memebers.
This is going to be a pretty long battle, because mystic damage is low in this stage of the game (and there is nothing you can do about that).

Actually, if you really have problems - use Aya + Sakuya. Make Sak move before the Kagami and use The World to skip HFC. Enjoy free win

>>9470616
>Not learning Hyper Fang Crusher for Satori
Get a load of this guy.

>>9470631
1%(3%) chance to learn useless skill. I am not a fan of grinding. If you want to chase for "status" achievments in SINGLE PLAYER GAME... Isn't that stupid?

Basicly my satori only learned some elemental magic (to proc chasers, because her magic stats are abyssmal), 2 easy to learn heals, startlight barrier, leaf shield and reflect wall. And mind flay, tho i never used it. Because debuffs in this games are only for bosses.

She is only used as support in this game, why bother with useless stuff?

What genre is this game? Is it like final fantasy? Could I have a download link? Can I use Reisen?

Maybe someone here can help me out. I've been playing through the DoD expansion, and I kept seeing these Blue Stop Sign-looking things in various places. I figured that I'd find whatever it is I need to unlock those somewhere, but now I'm at the final boss and I still don't have it.

Anyone know what's up with that?

>>9470691
It's a 99% learn chance with the drop rate patch, which you should be using.

I've gotten Weekend, but I'm not picking it up again until the re-translation is finished. I just can't into moon all that well yet; I can figure out the katakana super-easily, but I don't know many kanji yet and I don't want to miss the dialogue.

>>9470700
RPG
More like SaGa
Check the archive
Once you get to the expansion

>>9470740
I apologize, but I'm quite dull as of now.

May I please have a link to the archive?

>>9470722
I use it against Yukkuris and not much else. Satori's just so much better at support than straight damage that, even if Hyper-Fang Crush were a really powerful attack skill in its own right, I'd rather stick with stuff like Petrification Breath and Acid Rain and so forth.

>>9470262
>>9470361
Actually, there's also a re-release for GoS that raises the drop/learn rates a lot (it's almost like they were watching us and knew about that patch), which is version 3.0, but it doesn't have a translation patch yet.
>>9470400
There isn't really anything in there, actually - just two chests when you're doing a character-recruiting mission that involves the forest.
>>9470691
>>9470722
It's also a 99% (or rather, 33% which goes up to that if you have maxed Learning tree) on Weekend. They WERE watching us, I'm sure.
Also, Mad Thunder (which yo can get from Iku) also got its learn rate bumped to 33% in it.
>>9470707
I believe you need an item from the final dungeon to open the green signs, but I didn't even know there were blue ones as well. Try taking a look at Pooshlmer's past threads, they might have some info.

>>9470700
http://www.mediafire.com/?a8c1by6btaid7

It's an RPG, like final fantasy. It's difficult; don't neglect any party members and be choosy about what items you craft. There's also a drop/learn rate patch somewhere out there that you should definitely use.

>>9470755
Weekend? Is that the one with easy mode and stuff?
Has that been released? Does the translation patch work with it?

>>9470757
Thank you kindly Mr. Anon.

Does this include the expansion with Reisen, or is that somewhere else?

Or am I just terribly mistaken about the whole lot?

>>9470767
It does.

Does anyone have the 2.09 expansion link? THe original link was removed and I can't find a mediafire for it in the archives.

>>9470722
Why? The game was relativly easy even without it, why would you want to make it even easier? Limited resources, at least, make you think about what to craft (tho the only thing you really need to craft is Youmus T6 katana).

Important spells are easy to learn even without patch.

>>9470768
Weekend has been released, but the translation patch does not work with it. It's still being worked on, but a bit slowly, because the translator has other projects as well. Luckily, all the translations are already there, and there's not a whole lot of new text, if any, so it should be a straight conversion when he gets around to it.

>>9470773
You're an awesome person anon.

You've made my day. Just thought you should know that.

>>9470755
>They WERE watching us, I'm sure.
They weren't watching us. The Japanese players are the same as you guys. They cry about Satori's learning rates, low drop rates, and the games difficulty.

Now look what happend to DoD. We got a much easier game thanks to all complaints from players.

>>9470755

Well, I guess they could be described as either Green or Blue really, just depends how you look at them... we're probably talking about the same thing, anyway.

Would you happen to know where in the final dungeon it is? I am basically a terrible moron and don't know how to work things, so I don't even know where past poosh threads would be.

>>9470749
Satori is just plain HORRIBLE at dealing physical damage. The best way I guess you could do it would be with a spear, enough points in its growth tree to reduce cooldown by one, all of the damage and attack buffs you can get to her learned skills, and even then all physical characters are still going to beat her even if she's using Acala Sword or another strong skill. She's much better for magic, as with enough points in Learning and Third Eye her basic elemental spells are stronger than Marisa's, and Demon Shock (which you can get in the SDM) is stronger than Byakuren's basic dark spell.
>>9470768
Yes, and yes, although it's obviously optional.
Yes (in Reitaisai 09) and no, although TheNewGuy said he's been working on it... when the game was released. Apparently he's busy with life stuff at the moment, but the patch will come out eventually I guess
For a list of things that changed in it, see this page of the wiki:
http://www26.atwiki.jp/touhou_souzin/pages/251.html

>>9470775
It really just makes grinding less of a pain in the ass. You're not going to get tons and tons of materials even with the patch; just a little more. It doesn't make the game easier, just less annoying.

Trust me. I was thinking exactly like you before I grabbed it.

I started playing the pre-patched version I had downloaded, which is 2.08.

Anything extremely painful waiting for me if I don't update to 2.09?

>>9470786
The only people crying about the difficulty were people who were terrible at video games and were trying to just bum rush everything.

>>9470804
More stability and stuff. I've never had the game freeze or crash on me with 2.09.

>>9470796
>http://www26.atwiki.jp/touhou_souzin/pages/251.html
Can't read a word of that.
Does it make the game any easier outside of easy mode? I certainly fucking hope not.

>>9470804

It's very possible you are playing the 2.09 version. Check in the root folder if there is a file named README english or something similar, open that, and under the applying patch section, see if it says anything about the game window incorrectly showing 2.08 for a 2.09 version

>>9470822

It kindasorta makes things easier, since you can get materials easier (meaning you can probably get better equipment) and learn Satori's spells easier (meaning you're more likely to have her really useful spells).

You still can't be a dumbshit though, or you'll get rocked.

>>9470807
Yeah, I didn't really think the game was hugely difficult. Farming for materials is a chore, though, and not really difficult so much as tedious. I think people just think of it as difficult because the bosses sometimes require a bit of creative thinking to deal with rather than raw grinding or overpowering.

>>9470822
Much easier. Items make such a huge difference and a lot of those changes make getting items easier.

>>9470757
Part 5 is broken.

Any other links? ;_;

>>9470843
Exactly.
I don't think it's a coincidence that whenever there were people complaining about the difficulty, there were people complaining about how grindy the game was among their posts.

>>9470786
The expansion still seems pretty hard, though. But yeah, the early part of it is ridiculously easy, and the game only starts to get really annoying in the final dungeon of the main game. Those fucking tanks, man.
>>9470792
No idea, I just recall them being mentioned in one of the threads on Pooshlmer, but I haven't gotten there yet in my game.
>>9470822
Just scroll down a bit and you should be able to understand at least some things. Lots of recipes were changed (for example, you only need 5 Iron instead of 30 to make a Kusanagi), all of Satori's blue spells got raised to at least a 10% chance, some items and spells had their stats and costs altered, and the drop rate of everything got raised considerably.

>>9470852
Redownload it, it works fine for me.

>>9470852

http://www.mediafire.com/?fzydyu1ngg8a4

>>9470849
Depends on how easier you can get said items. If the drop rate boost is similar to the what our patch did, it won't change the difficulty much at all.

>>9470876

>>9470869
>for example, you only need 5 Iron instead of 30 to make a Kusanagi
God damn it. God fucking damn it, why?

>>9470878
It's a lot easier. You need less materials to make items too, so it's an even bigger boost than it seems.

>>9470900
Is the game-mod.dat balanced? I don't want to make the game easy but I don't want to be plagued by bullshit drop rates.

>>9470843
That part of the difficulty only changes on Weekend if you're on easy mode, if you're curious. I believe there was a boost to how much experience you get, but I'm still unsure if it's in general or if it's only for underleveled characters (as one of the common complaints I've seen is how you get new characters at level 1).
>>9470895
Come on, it was pretty much impossible to get 30 Iron by the end of the game by just playing it even if you never used it once. The only thing that does is considerably reduce the amount of time you'd spend grinding.

>>9470909
Might as well use the regular drop rate patch then.
Do we have any numbers to the Weekend version's drop rates?

>>9470909
The unofficial learning/drop patch pretty much only doubles the rates of the basic materials (iron, bamboo, etc), while the re-release boosts nearly everything. Details here, linked again:
http://www26.atwiki.jp/touhou_souzin/pages/251.html

>>9470917
Yeah, 30 iron was a bitch. I had to grind a bit for that. But down to FIVE? For the single strongest weapon in the entire damn game? When iron drop rates are already who knows how much higher anyway? That's fucking ridiculous.

Is DoD good? I've heard a lot of talk about it, and pretty much everything I've heard sounds terrible.

>>9470945
Seems to high and I don't want to wait for a translation patch that could take weeks. I'll stick with the /jp/ patch.

>>9470958
Do you like 2hu and JRPGs?

>>9470616
I'm pretty heavily reliant on Alice to stop Chihiro from killing me, how would I counter-act the stupidly strong water attack without Alice.

This damn section wouldn't be so hard if I wouldn't have to min-max 3 parties, or if Reimu got her superduper barrier earlier, maybe I'll go grind her to 50.

>>9470951
>For the single strongest weapon in the entire damn game?
It's pretty useful against the final things in the main game and at the beginning of the post-game, but it's definitely not the strongest thing in it. The slayer effect might seem like an amazing things but if I recall correctly, it's a lot weaker than, say, Sakuya's weapons.
Still, yeah, I guess five was a bit too much. Maybe 10 would have been a fairer number.

>>9470980
>how would I counter-act the stupidly strong water attack without Alice
You wouldn't.
Give Nitori anti-water and anti-death gear, have her enchant herself with elec bullets, and let her rip. Electric Rage-8 does TERRIBLE things to the boss.

What I did for those fights was Have Byuakuren and Mokou fight the needle one (or was it Byakuren and Sakuya? It's been so long), get an actual boss-fighting team on the hyper fang crush one, and throw whoever I had left and Nitori at the instagib bullshit octopus one. Worked pretty well.

>>9471001
You're forgetting the big stat boosts all over the place, perfect exorcism, and if I recal correctly, divine barriers for the wielder.

>>9471041
>divine barriers for the wielder.
Nope, I don't think it goes that far.
>[退魔の力：100]
>[強打：ドラゴン・異神・巨人・精霊・超越]
>[隠し効果:HP+10%、MP+10%、速度+10、物理防御10]

>>9471096
>[Lives+1], [Bombs+1], [MaxHP+19%], [MaxMP+9%], [DEF+~75], [EVA+20]
Yeah, you're right. Still ridiculous.

>>9470829

You are right. Thank you for the information.

I have a question. I heard about these "character quests" to get certain characters, but do I really have to go back and recollect characters that were previously already in my party?

I haven't played this yet, I'm downloading it now.
But this 99% learn rate patch thing I'm hearing about, could someone please explain exactly what it is? And where do I get it?

>>9471556
It's not 99% for everything; just one very irritating to learn skill.

The patch boosts the drop rate of basic materials to reasonable levels. They're still rare, but you should consider yourself lucky to see them drop at all without it. It also boosts Satori's learning rate for a lot of spells by quite a bit. which is really nice, because Satori is a lot of fun.

You can find it in this thread, as well as a lot of other stuff.
>>9025292

>>9471605
Thank you!!

>>9471509
Yes.
It's annoying, but also makes you use party members in ways you might not have thought of before.

>>9471736
But Aya's my favorite 2hu and I love her and want to keep her. And Mokou is really useful, and the Youmu battle was really hard. This makes me sad.

I don't have to level them up all over again or anything like that, do I?

>>9471850
High five, fellow tengu.
I sympathize with you on Aya. Don't worry, you can get her back pretty early; she's one of the easier character re-recruitment fights.
And no, you don't have to re-level them.

>>9470757
I downloaded this, but I can't play it. When I open it, nothing happens and when I run it on Japanese local is immediately crashes.
Does anyone have a solution? This looks like lots of fun!

>>9470958
I personally liked DoD a lot more than GoS. I'm probably the only one though. I found it a lot more fun and had me playing it for a lot longer than GoS did.

>>9473571
Why are you so fucking useless?

>>9473571
>nothing happens and when I run it on Japanese local
Wrong.
Your computer needs to be set to Japanese local from the start, before you download it. Don't use applocale; it won't work.
You'll also need Direct X 9. Not 10, not 11, 9.

>>9473786
Why are you so mean?
Don't do that.

>>9473821
Don't tell me what to do.

New game trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HEzzC2smq8

>>9475685
Looks godawful

>>9475685
So it's a Touhou version of Plants vs. Zombies? Huh. Not too interested.

>>9475685
Why oh why did they have to replace the perfectly good GoS character sprites with these GODAWFUL derp-style sprites in DoD and this new game?

>>9475800
Not sure, but DoD's sprites make me not want to try it. Which is a shame, because I was excited when I heard Meiling was playable in it.

>>9475823
I hate that Aya, Alice, Reisen, Cirno, and Satori aren't playable characters in it, even though they were in GoS.

>>9475885
I just checked, and apparently Sakuya isn't either, even though Remilia and Patchouli stayed. I'm so disappointed right now. The game itself better be amazing.

>>9475800
Different sprite artist for the characters, I believe. If I'm not mistaken, he did either the backgrounds or the monster sprites in DoD instead.

>>9475923
Instead of strategy = power as in GoS, DoD is levels = power. Shit is fucking annoying, I had to stop and grind for 20 levels at a point in the post game since I was horribly underleveled since I beat the final boss at the level when the zone's enemies started giving reduced xp.

>>9475956
GoS really had potential for a good sequel, it's too bad we had to get this. I'll probably still try it when the english patch comes out, but I can't see myself playing it all the way through if it's as bad as it seems.

>>9475956
How can you say that levels are too important and then say right after that you were underleveled? You should be complaining about bad balancing.

>>9475987
That's true, I guess, but I could have been 20 levels underleveled in GoS and if I had the right strategy it'd work out. I could spec Sanae to heal & rez fast and heal & rez well, instead of this shit where the enemies either kill the healer or healee before I get to move, so if I lose a character I'm pretty much fucked since I can't revive her half of the time, and if I do she'll be at 1 HP. Alice could tank in GoS, now I just have to hope that party-wide death spell (this is fucking cheap, Tenshi) or explosion or whatever doesn't kill too many characters.

There's no way to outlast bosses with careful planning, it's just bumrushing all the way.

>>9475956
I beat Angra at around level 50 and had no problem at the early post-game. Then again, it might have been because I got a lucky Lesser Dragon and one-shotted all those Creepers with his fire breath.
The only time I've had to grind so far was to get a Great Demon.

>>9476006
I beat Angra at around level 50 and had no problem at the early post-game. Then I got to the arena where you have to fight two demons at once and had to grind for 20 levels to match them in power.

>>9476024

It's been a few months since I played that section, but... that's the one where you fight that Earth demon and he summons a Lightning demon, isn't it? I think my strategy for that was to equip someone with the Plasma Knife and Deathrider for using Blood Sword on the Earth dude. When the Lightning dude came out, I used that corn monster's 350 Power earth attack and he pretty much crumpled.

And I got to Mima and realized the game-ending combo of Rumia and G-3 using their elemental weakness attacks, and then using one of those 350 Power attacks. Pretty sure I did like 16000 damage in one attack, or so.

>>9475998
That's interesting you guess. How would you contrast those items anon? >piss and shit on the floor.

>>9476006
You could spec sanae to heal rez fast and heal rez well, instead of this shit where the enemies either kill the healer or healee before you get to move, so if you lose a character you are pretty much fucked since you can't revive her half of the time, and if you do she'll be at 1 hp. Right, and women get breast implants to appeal to weird nerds.

More tactical fun incoming!

>>9475956
>Instead of strategy = power as in GoS, DoD is levels = power.
So it's less than garbage.
Aaand that's the final nail in the coffin for it in my book. Thanks, /jp/.

>>9475956
>DoD is levels = power.
That is not true at all. If you think that, you simply refused to take the time to organize a good shikigami setup. There is a lot more to fighting in DoD than buff, heal, attack, debuff, rinse and repeat. In fact, with the huge number of shikigami and skills, DoD requires a lot more planning, testing and strategy than GoS. If you have a good shikigami setup, you can breeze through the game. It seriously feels like all of this heavy negativity towards DoD comes from people who only pay attention to levels, and who wouldn't spend the time to read the skill descriptions, take note of passives and use the wiki to their advantage.

>>9481002
>If you have a good shikigami setup, you can breeze through the game.

That's why I didn't like this game. It's already easy enough with a bad shikigami setup, a good one just makes it even easier.

Any have experience running this on linux? how well does it work?

Bump.