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945610 No.945610 [Reply] [Original]

What's with Japan and bullying? Is it a national past-time or something?

>> No.945617
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945617

They have to take it easy

>> No.945621

>Is it a national past-time or something?
>>945617
is proof

>> No.945623

>>945610
they get normal bullies like anywhere else. it's just the they are extremely inept at dealing with bullying, right up to the point where the faculty will ignore it completely even if it hit them on the face

>> No.945627

They don't carebear the bullied because bullies are seen as mentally fit.

>> No.945628
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>>945623
Luckily, they have some teachers that care!

>> No.945631

>>945628
I wish I had a teacher that cared for me.

>> No.945632

>>945610
>bullying
A weak mans excuse for his weakness. Only the strongest survive it's been like that in nature for ages.

>> No.945645

>>945632

i has a gun, u die nao.

>> No.945646

>>945632
>A weak mans excuse for his weakness.
Civilization != nature.

Mankind's success is due to our building of a civilization which directly controverts nature's principles. Fuck you and your ass-backwards mentality.

>> No.945654

>>945646
It's Croatia. Just ignore him.

>> No.945664

>>945632
That wouldn't be such a bad idea if Japan wasn't experiencing negative population growth.

>> No.945674

>>945664
the bullying is so bad kids don't even want to be born, negative population growth is that bad

>> No.945680

god damnit yugoslavia

>> No.945681

>>945674
Nope japs are so inferior to everyone else no one wants to be born Japanese....

>> No.945689

Bullying happens everywhere, but when you combine it with that crazy conformist group over the individual culture of Japan, shit gets real nasty.

>> No.945698
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>>945689
It's just the strong japs trying to kill of the weak ones... just like Nevada-tan did.

>> No.945718

All Baka Gaijin are racist.

>> No.945721

THE NAIL THAT STICKS OUT IS HAMMERED DOWN

>> No.945722

>>945718
Baka in croatian mean grandmother. So all Gajin grandmothers are racist?

>> No.945728

>What's with Japan and bullying?
August 6th, 1945.

>> No.945730

>>945728
You mean they are all retarded mutants affected by radiation?

>> No.945731

アメリカやその他の外国で、いじめで自殺する人はいないのですか?
日本に対する偏見なのではないですか?
あなたたちの日本の印象は、人種差別に満ちた馬鹿なメディアの影響ですか

>> No.945735

>>945722
クロアチアの基地外さんですねw

>> No.945737

>>945731
you're right.

>> No.945740

>>945728
Hey, we actually did that to STOP their bullying of other countries.

>> No.945743

>>945740
Look like the stooped bullying others and started to do it on themselves

>> No.945744

>>945740
yeah yeah ... murder.

>> No.945746

>>945722
The pronunciation is completely different though. Contexts, my friend.

>> No.945748

日頃の生活のストレスを、日本や日本人を貶すことで、発散させるな!
お前ら、陰気で陰湿なんだよ!

>> No.945753

>>945740
I think he meant it more like a reminder of a subsequent occupation and the (misplaced and selective) introduction of western values into Japanese school system.

And the entire war was mainly for economic reasons, but that's beyond the scope of this thread.

>> No.945754

>>945731
英語でおk

>> No.945759

>>945754
韓国の方へ
翻訳お願いします。

>> No.945760

>>945731
We don't like Japan on this board. If we find something shitty about japan, we are going to discuss it and make ourselves happier by learning Japan is a bigger shit hole than we previously thought.

>> No.945764

>>945731
>アメリカやその他の外国で、いじめで自殺する人はいないのですか?
There is. I don't think people kill themselves over it as often as its done in Japan, but from what I've seen on Japanese television, I doubt the problem is entirely ignored. At least, not any more than we ignore it.

>日本に対する偏見なのではないですか?
I've never lived in japan, so I wouldn't know.

>あなたたちの日本の印象は、人種差別に満ちた馬鹿なメディアの影響で
すか?
ここの人は東方やエロゲ以外の日本はほとんど興味ない

>> No.945767

>日頃の生活のストレスを、日本や日本人を貶すことで、発散させるな!
>お前ら、陰気で陰湿なんだよ!
ここでのちょっとした会話でも伺えるけど、GAIJINさんてホント何にでも文句
つけてばっかで偉そうなんだよね
曰く「タダでお前らサルのゲームさせろ、お前ら頭の弱いサルの絵を俺らが
ありがたく使わせてもらおう」だの

>> No.945771

>>945764
>>945767
At least translate that shit.

>> No.945774
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945774

In USA.

>> No.945777

>>945774
Figures niggers and azns picking on the ginger kid.

>> No.945778

>At least translate that shit.
ね?言った通りでしょ

>GAIJINさんてホント何にでも文句つけてばっかで偉そう

>> No.945779

>>945774

Long division was awesome

>> No.945783

>>945764
君は「統計学」って聞いたことあるかな?数字で示してね。
ちなみに現在自殺率の一番高い国はロシアですが、これ位あなたに言うまで
もありませんでしたね。

>> No.945786
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In USA...

>> No.945787

>>945731
>アメリカやその他の外国で、いじめで自殺する人はいないのですか?
School shootings.

>> No.945808

>>945623
This person here is an idiot who knows nothing of Japanese culture... I've been trying to understand the whole Japan + bullying for a while now... You need to really analyze their society and undertsand how it works to sorta get what's going on... there isn't a quick "it's because..." answer to this.

>> No.945813

俺は、日本と日本人が好きです。
アニメやマンガは、あまり好きではない。

>> No.945824

One thing I've always wondered. Is there a strong subculture theme going on at Japanese schools? In high schools here there are clearly different groups, conforming to all the shitty stereotypes and associating mostly with themselves. Then again, I have friends who said they had nothing like that at their own highschools.

>> No.945828

アメリカでは、自殺より殺人の方が多そうですね。
アメリカに対する偏見ですけれど。

>> No.945830

Is the person speaking Japanese in this thread even Japanese? Thought I read Korean somewhere, with my limited Jap skills.

>> No.945838

アメリカは、日本より精神医療が進んでいるから、自殺者が少ないんじゃな
いですか?
良い効果がある抗うつ剤とか処方されていそう。

>> No.945846

>>945838
lol no

>> No.945848

>>945830
Japと言う言葉を、使わないでください。
あなたは、その時点で、もう人種差別しているのですよ!
気づかないのですか?

>> No.945854

>>945838
NO.

>> No.945860

日本人→侍→自殺
米国人→クリスチャン→自殺はダメって思う
その通りですね

>> No.945861

>>945838
精神医者関係ない。 アメリカ人は、 自分自身で問題を解決されたいんだ

>> No.945862

>>945830
well I guess your Japanese is VERY limited, then
>>945828
いやな偏見だな。アメリカ人ではないが、アメリカには日本をはるかに上回
る数の人間がいる事を忘れないでもらいたい。人が多いからいろいろな事
件がおきるのは当然。基地外な君にはわかりづらいかな?

>> No.945863

>>945848
Eleven.

>> No.945869
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In USA

>> No.945872

>>945860
無間地獄

>> No.945879

>>945830
Well luckily for me I know many people from Japan who can translate this all... Unfortunatly for me... they are mostly all girls who dislike otaku culture generally.... thus me showing them this is.....

>> No.945889

>>945862
総数ではなく、ある一定の人口における、自殺と殺人の確率のことを言って
います。

>> No.945892

>>945848
2chに人種差別ないんですか? 4chanも同じ。 すべてマジにしないで

>> No.945893

>>945848
君はどうやらここが始めてらしいな。4ちゃんで人種の解り合いを求めてる
こと自体無謀なんだよ。自分を日本人だと言い張るな、心を痛めるだけだ
。ここにずっと居たいならば、一人のAnonになるんだな

ついでに、みんなのために英語で書いてくれ。君みたいな人を見ると外国の
空港で無謀にずっと日本語ばかり使う馬鹿な日本人の老人たちの姿が目に
浮かぶ

>> No.945896

>>945862
在日韓国人の方ですか?

>> No.945898

I hate you Japs. Learn some English before coming to a English speaking board.

>> No.945901

韓国人に言われても説得力ないな。

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>>945869
Is it random meaningless chart time already? Here, have mine!

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>>945903
yaaaaaaaaaaay

>> No.945908

日本語を使う韓国人には、基地外が多いから気をつけてね。

>> No.945910

馬鹿な韓国人が、発狂し出しましたね。
また火病ですか?

>> No.945914

>>945908
Half my Japanese classes are always filled with Koreans, some of which who've lived in Japan and who take the classes for easy A's... damn Koreans.

>> No.945916

>>945896
ドイツ人だ。人種差別をするなとか言って奴がいると思いきや悪いレスはみ
んな在日チョンのせいか?これだから日本人はだめだな。俺は日本語と日
本の文化は素晴らしいと思うが貴様みたいな人間を見ると反吐が出る。ま
ぁ、でも、それは人間である以上仕方のないことなのかもしれない。どこの
国にも悪い奴やいい奴はいる、お前の嫌いな朝鮮にもな

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>>945916

>> No.945924

>>945898
http://cgi.2chan.net/i/futaba.php?res=1409
http://cgi.2chan.net/i/futaba.php?res=1532
http://cgi.2chan.net/i/futaba.php?res=1497
http://cgi.2chan.net/i/futaba.php?res=1413
http://cgi.2chan.net/i/futaba.php?res=1713

>> No.945928

>>945916
韓国系ドイツ人ですか?

>> No.945934

Now we got people trolling in Japanese... great.

>> No.945941

このスレは結論は
いじめは、世界中のどこでも起きることで、日本特有のものではない。
いじめで自殺することも、日本特有のものではない。

で、よろしいですか?

>> No.945952

>>945928
あのなぁ、俺が本当に在日チョンだったらなぜわざわざアメリカを保護する
ようなレスをするんだよ…もっと物事を落ち着いて考えるようにしようぜ
。それに何でもかんでもチョンのせいにするなここは日本のサイトじゃな
い、当然在日や日本人以外の人間もいる。第一、貴様らみたいな黄色い肌と
豆みたいな目の人種と一緒にしないでもらいたい。やはり日本人は個人で
は弱い人種なんだな、まぁ、団体行動に特化している民族としては仕方な
いのかもな

>> No.945954

>>945941
Considering only a handful of people could even understand your argument to begin with... uh, sure.

>> No.945959

>>945941
Nobody ever said it was unique to Japan, just that it was worse.

>> No.945969

>>945952
ドイツ人だと言う何か証拠はありますか?
疑ってすみません。
あまりに流暢な日本語を使うもので。

>> No.945973

>>945941
いじめは、世界中のどこでも起きるけど、日本では特にそれがひどいと思う
ね。まぁ、少なくとも日本と韓国と中国はひどい。

まぁ、アメリカではちょっといじめ方が違うんだよねぇ。説明しにくいけど

>> No.945986

まあ、日本の社会問題を、無知な脳みそで、興味本位だけで、議論している
だけのスレですから、日本の方は大目に見てください。

>> No.945989

>>945973
学校内のいじめでも、裁判とかになるのですか?

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>> No.945995

>>945969
解ってくれたなら幸いだ。でも免許や旅券はあるけどネットで公開できるレ
ベルの証拠はないね。子供のころ俺は父の仕事の関係で日本で8年間暮ら
していたんだ。だから日本語ができるんだよ。こういう人間って、意外と
多いんだぜ?

>> No.945996

アメリカでは、集団無視といういじめ方はあるのですか?

>> No.946000

>>945996
>>945995
>>945989
You sure ask a lot of questions. Too bad you can't do it English you inferior Jap.

>> No.946005

>>945995
日本の学校に通っていたのですか?
それとも、インターナショナル・スクールですか?

>> No.946006

>まぁ、少なくとも日本と韓国と中国はひどい。
どのような条件を満たしたら「ひどい」と言えるのか、その定義を教えてく
れませんか?
「日本はひどいという人がいたから」ですか?
「日本はひどいという日本人がいたから」ですか?
「日本人全員を調べ上げて「日本はひどいという日本人」の割合を調べたか
ら」ですか?

>日本の方は大目に見てください。
最近英語話者の横暴が目につくんだよね・・・

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>> No.946012

>>946000
お前それ違う人だぞーw

>> No.946015

>>945989
ああ!それだ!アメリカでは何でもかんでも裁判に持ち込めるからいじめと
かはあまり問題にならないんだよ。だから異性交際するときも怖いんだよ
ね。彼女と同意セックスしたのに後で金出さねぇとレイプしたって訴える
ぞ”ってことにもなるんだもの。まぁ、いいところもあるけど、悪いところ
もあるってことさ。

>> No.946031

>>946000
I'm sorry sand nigger, but in Japanese, not all sentences ending with "?" mark is about asking questions. I was actually answering questions. lulz was ensued

>>946005
普通に日本の小学校と幼稚園に通っていたね、日本はある意味、俺の故郷だ

>> No.946044

>>946031
>lulz
Go back to /b/.

>> No.946052

>>946044
>BAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW

>> No.946060

this thread is AT FULL FORCE

>> No.946080

良スレ認定

>> No.946107

I refuse to read any Japanese written on 4chan unless it's actual proper Japanese. Is this thread safe?

>> No.946141

>>946107
Are you incapable of telling yourself?

>> No.946176

>>946141
I could, but I'm not that confident in my moon skills. I'd rather not fuck it up.

>> No.946233

>>946176
because most people learn to speak by intentionally limiting their exposure to ONLY "proper" versions of the language.

>> No.946241

Japanese bullying is exactly the same as American bullying. Anyone who seriously believes otherwise is on some nihonjinron Japanese uniqueness high.
日本のいじめとアメリカのいじめは一分一厘も違わず。違い思う人は日本人
論あほうだ
Apologies for the poor Japanese. 甘くない日本語ためにごめんなさい

>it's just the they are extremely inept at dealing with bullying, right up to the point where the faculty will ignore it completely even if it hit them on the face
Exactly my experience growing up at many different schools in the US. Hell, some faculty even encouraged it.

>> No.946247

>>946233
0/10

>> No.946266

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT DIFFERENT CULTURES ARE DIFFERENT
ALL BULLYING AND REACTION TO IT ARE EXACTLY THE SAME EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD WITHOUT EXCEPTION

>> No.946276

Bullying still exists? I thought that was a 90s fad.

>> No.946322

A lot of the cultural observations that North Americans make of Japan are the same things that occur in their home country and it's only the myth and aura of Japanese exoticism gives people this idea of Japanese uniqueness. If you use the Japanese word for universal concepts in English you can go "Oh, look at his crazy foreign culture. Oh Japan, you so zany"
Examples:
Honne, tatemae = Private thoughts, public face
Ijime = Bullying
Tachiyomi = hanging out at Barnes & Noble being a freeloading dick
Anime = CARTOONY TOONS
Hikikomori, NEET = Reclusive shut-in, jobless parasite

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>>946247
>0/10
>0
Sounds like 100 to me.

>> No.946361

>>946266
The second sentence is more right than the first :P

>> No.946371

>>946350
TROLL THE UNTROLLABLE
RAGE THE UNRAGEABLE
RAH RAH JOIN DA CANCER

>> No.946375

I'll try my best at translating a few comments because the German guy here didn't do that even though he's probably more qualified than I am

>>945731:
Aren't there suicides due to bullying in America and other countries too?
Isn't there a prejudice against Japan?
Your impression of Japan, is this a result of your foolish media?

>> No.946402

>>945848:
Please don't say "Jap"
When you say that, that's more racism!
Understand?

>> No.946417

>>945838:
Isn't mental health care better in America than Japan so that suicides are relatively few?
Prescription antidepressants must be so effective

>> No.946421

>>946402
Jap.

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>> No.946444

>>945860:
Japanese person → Samurai warrior → Suicide
American person → Christian → Wouldn't even consider suicide
That's how it is, isn't it?

>> No.946446

>>946421
Hey I'm just the guy translating I'm not the Jap here.
Oops

>> No.946465

>>945910:
Stupid Korean crazy something
something something

>>945896:
I'm German. Why the horrifically racist replies toward every single Zainichi Korean? This sort of Japanese person is horrible. I find the Japanese language and culture to be wonderful but shitheads like YOU make me vomit. It's unfortunate that people like you exist, something Korea something hatred

>> No.946468

>>945879
some of us in here actually have the skills to read this on our own without our imaginary girl friends.

>> No.946490

>>945941:
So the conclusion of this thread is,
Bullying is a worldwide problem, there is nothing unique about bullying in Japan.
Suicide due to bullying, nothing unique about that in Japan either.

Are we clear on this?

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In USA..

>> No.946514
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>> No.946518
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>> No.946520
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946520

All three in USA..

>> No.946547

>>946031
>not all sentences ending with the question marl mark is about asking questions

GODDAMMIT, JAPAN. STOP FUCKING AROUND WITH OUR GRAMMAR SYSTEM! USE A PERIOD OR EXCLAMATION POINT IF YOU'RE MAKING A STATEMENT. QUESTION MARKS ARE FOR QUESTIONS.

AND CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL.

>> No.946579

>>945610
lol go ask Cho Seung Hui about that.

>> No.946626

>>946579
Who's that?

>> No.946641

>>946626
Learn to google or watch the news.

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>> No.946671

>>946626
Whoops. I didn't know his first name.

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946710

Problem solved.

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