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Ability to untie ribbons

nuclear war

Love
Honor
Integrity
Justice

Just to name a few.

Yamaxandau

>>9354958

Those arn't dangers

>>9354954

Gaps

>>9354944

Gap them off

Time stop.

menopause

niggers

>>9354994

No one ages in Gensokyo

>>9355003

Gaps

>>9354991

Anyone who could stop time would get gapped

>>9355015
>Anyone who could stop time would get gapped
Not if they stop time before getting gapped.

Labor unions

Politics

>>9355054

Not if they get gapped before they stop time

>>9355055

Gapped

>>9355062

Politicians get gapped

Loss of touhous purity

>>9355094
Can they be pure in the first place with such huge gaps?

Human nature

Radiation.

I remember that doujin where Yukari had to sleep a lot because she had received a dangerous dosage of radiation when tried to invade the moon.

>>9355133

That's fanon, Yukari would have just gapped the moon

Yukari's perversion

An over-abundance of gaps couldn't be solved with more gaps.

>>9355166
Gap away the gaps?

Batman wielding Gold Experience Requiem

>There is no potential danger in Touhou that can't be solved with gaps.
What about gaps?

>There is no potential danger in Touhou that can't be solved with gaps. Name one, I dare you.

Yukari's power is infinite in potential but very limited in actual range of effect.

Even trowing rocks at her would be enough if you have enough rocks and power to overwhelm her.

>>9355187

Gap away the world temporarily, leaving Batman in space, then Ungapping it.

just because she opened a gap doesn't mean you get sucked in or some shit

it's not a goddamn vacuum in there

>>9355218
I assume gravity would do the rest.

How about the ability to destory the concept of ``Yukari?''

anyone have one of those pictures where it shows what happens if the ribbons on the edges of the gaps are torn off?

The Gland

>>9355218

That may be true that it's not a vacuum, but gravity plus natural motion can do the rest.

>>9355205

Gaps can close themselves

>>9355238

A concept isn't dangerous

>>9355253
If you destroy ``the concept of Yukari'' then Yukari would die accordingly.

>>9355268

A concept is an unrealized idea, Yukari is a realized thing. And even if there was ability to destroy such a thing, ignoring the literal definition. It would only destroy people's memory of Yukari.

And that can be solved by gapping something important.

>>9355288
Concepts are the underlying nature of the subject. Without the ``concept of Yukari'' there is no ``Yukari,'' literal, hypothetical, or anywhere in between.

>>9355299

Well considering that only Yukari has the power over such things, real or imaginary. It would only be possible if she gapped herself. But if Yukari became a danger to Gensokyo, she could gap herself.

>>9355318
Both Flandre and Yuyuko have the best powers for full combat. Flandre can destroy anything, remember, by grabbing the target, which she uses on a meteor, so clearly it's more a more conceptual than literal grab. Yuyuko's power works on living things, but Yukari is alive, so Yuyuko's power could kill Yukari.

>>9355356

Yukari can gap the conceptual things, including Yuyuko's ability, despite the fact that Yuyuko would never use it on Yukari.

And I believe Flandre's ability requires physical contact to destroy it.

>>9355416
I covered that already. PMiSS, I think, explicitly mentions her using it on a meteor heading towards SDM so it doesn't hit her house.

>>9355422

Well, potentially it will come to whoever pulls the trigger, of whether the power itself can be gapped, or Flandre before Yukari is destroyed. Or if Yukari can gap away.

>>9355574
I'm going to put my money on the character with the power to destroy anything.

>>9355610

Considering that Yukari has innumerable ways to avoid it, not really.

>>9355626
Yukari is pretty overrated, really.

The police.

Let's be real guys. Yukari is the strongest character in Touhou. The ability to Manipulate Boundaries is a fearsome power to begin with.

She can manipulate godly powers to a level cap fairy. Hell, if she wanted to, she could just manipulate her power to omnipotence. No wonder Yukari become a lazy girl.

>>9355644
>implying i can read taht moon

>>9355668
I post on /jp/ with the false hope that at least some Touhou fan here can. ;_;

>>9355671
If you take her power to a theoretical maximum extent, but any of the touhous are pretty much unbeatable if you do that. How much of that can she actually live up to. Also, omnipotence is a self-defeating concept.

>>9355675

>>9355671

It's interesting how Zun made a nearly omnipotent mary sue that doesn't fall into the trap mary sue's typically do.

>>9355671
She became lazy so that she wouldn't be too OP. She's only thinking of us in the end.

>>9355705
It's sadly not that easy.

How about bringing back her loved ones after they are dead? Could Yukari possibly take on the Yama?
Could she gap away the pain as well?

And what of the powers of other Touhous?
Could she out-gap destiny? Or eternity?
Or what about her subconscious? Or state of mind? If her mind isn't in complete working order, could she successfully gap it back to normalcy? Obviously gapping takes some mental effort on her part, if she is brought with insanity or a misty, drunken mind, would her ability to successfully gap be compromised? Would it be bad to drink and gap, perhaps causing her to gap the wrong thing or do it too much?

Realistically speaking, plotarmor.
She can't do shit to the word of the writer, for their say is law.
If ZUN decided to kill her off for whatever reason, there isn't shit Yukari could do about it.

Firstly, Yukari has demonstrated limits in scope for her ability
Secondly, Yukari has demonstrated that the complexity of a boundary makes it more difficult to manipulate and/or more time-consuming, possible due to the manipulation of one boundary directly affected another
Thirdly, Yukari's intelligence, while nearly without match, is still limited
Fourth, Yukari can be beaten, even with an army of youkai

okay now go

>>9355763
I was just thinking this.

>>9355257

>>9355774

Yukari can gap the concept of her own limitations.

But now that you mention it, that'd be a really awesome plotline for a fight.

>>9355689

As far as we know, everything is built upon the existence of boundaries. (Truth-Lies, Weak-Strong, Mortal-Immortal, Old-New, Defeat-Victory) . Basically this power is HAX and Yukari has this ability. She could just cheat her way in and become the strongest in Touhou. However, it looks like she respect the "Spell Card Rule" and "Danmaku" so all is fair.

>she could just manipulate her power to omnipotence
why would you even say that
you can't just go "herp boundary of omnipotence", that's just using dumb rhetoric to try and convert her ability into what would already be omnipotence and might as well be saying "manipulation of anything and everything"

no

>>9355843

This power can manipulate conceptual and metaphysical as well. It is also base on what I read on Perfect Memento in Strict Sense.

>>9355826
>Yukari can gap the concept of her own limitations.
That isn't necessarily a boundary, and you're just presupposing that Yukari is already able to break her own limitations, or else she wouldn't be able to break her own limitations. It's shown that she does have limitations, so it's unreasonable to say that she can break them.

>>9355833
>As far as we know, everything is built upon the existence of boundaries. (Truth-Lies, Weak-Strong, Mortal-Immortal, Old-New, Defeat-Victory) . Basically this power is HAX and Yukari has this ability.
As I said, her powers demonstrably have limitations. Everything is built upon boundaries in that otherwise everything would be together and have no distinctions, but this doesn't necessarily mean that any two opposing things you can think of constitutes a manipulable boundary. Particularly "Truth-Lie" and "Defeat-Victory" are concepts that don't seem to actually possess a boundary, they're merely opposites.

>>9355774
Just because her power is "Manipulation of Boundaries" doesn't mean she can do whatever the fuck she wants with them without breaking a sweat. An obvious example is how Cirno has the ability to "Manipulate Cold", but she isn't able to freeze the entirety of Gensoukyou on a whim.

How about a Touhou in an upcoming game that is given an even more hax power than her?
What then?

An example would be the complete manipulation of luck and/or probability. No matter what Yukari can do, said Touhou could always manipulate the probability of her winning to 100% and the probability of Yukari winning by 0%, or a 100% chance of loss. Or manipulate it so that her gaps will fail. Or manipulate luck so that she will always win no matter what, just by sheer luck. Just like the concept of boundaries can be broad and thrown around, so can the concept of "luck."

Does /jp/ think such a Touhou could take on Yukari?
Do you have any other ideas for a Touhou with a power that could take on Yukari? At least one that is interesting and isn't Deviantart/Demonbane quality.

>>9355898
If your knowledge of Yukari's powers are limited to PMiSS then you best get some more reading done~ All that's really said about her ability in there is a vague explanation of it and some things she's actually done.

>>9355929
Cirno can manipulate cold.
Therefore she can manipulate entropy.
Therefor she is the strongest Touhou in existence.
Checkmate, Yukari.

Manipulation of Boundary's ability:
From Weak to Strong
From Age to Ageless
From Mortal to Immortal
From Dumb to Genius
etc...
.
.
.
.
Yep, hax....

>>9355940

Here's the one way we know would work.

>>9355959

Yukari can gap Cirno's ability to be liked.

Double Checkmate

>>9355940
>>9355963
>NEW TOUHOU
>Frilly McTubelegs
>Race: Celestial
>Ability: Manipulation of the abilities of other Touhous

My dick.

>>9355999

>NEW TOUHOU
>Hikki power
>The less she does the stronger she becomes

ZUN

>>9356021
That's Kaguya

>>9356052

Kaguya is pretty lame power wise except for immortal

>>9356054
She has power over the instantaneous and eternal. That's pretty bitchin'.

>>9355947

Well I did. If you just wanna talk about the "Manipulation of Boundary", then it's basically hax...

>>9356054
Manipulation of eternity and the moment seems pretty powerful to me.

Couldn't she manipulate it so Gensokyo and Earth will exist forever? Or that Yukari's gap would take an eternity to affect her?
How do we know that the Hourai Elixir isn't just a placebo and in reality Kaguya is just manipulating eternity so that the drinkers will live forever and she is just messing with Mokou this whole time?

>>9356067
As we covered, if you take every touhou to their theoretical limit, they're all pretty broken. They are based on manipulating concepts after all, save a few.

>>9356074
I choose to believe her power extends to those things which are themselves instantaneous and eternal. That is to say, I disagree that she could falsify the Hourai Elixer.

>>9356067
It's hax, but it (as well as Yukari herself) has been shown to have limits, so people extrapolating to have the ability fit whatever they want is akin to the example of Cirno manipulating entropy, and is stupid. If you want to have a legitimate discussion on possible problems that Yukari can't solve, then you sort of have to present the fact that she isn't omnipotent, or else it's completely pointless.

>>9356081
That makes sense and seems to be more logical than what I posted.
But if she can manipulate things that are eternal, couldn't she affect those that drank the Hourai Elixir, since the immortality basically makes your soul eternal?

>>9356128
How much she can affect the living is yet to be seen is questionable.

This argument is futile. Bare minimum is given about her power and limitations, since we are not supposed to care. And that one fag in this thread will counter everything with his "no u" and "boundary that" logic.
I have more important things to do, like that fumo thread.

It's been proven by that whole deal with Lunarians that sufficiently powerful magic can counter her gap powers.

We all know who the true champion is!

>>9354931
The dangers that come with gap manipulation.

>>9355197
I love these pictures. Insecure christmas cake Yukari is so moe.

aids xD

>>9356769
gap a nuke on the moon, that will solve the lunarian problem

>>9358632

>>9358690
Calm down.

Fantastic.

>>9358688
But they have basically the same power but even stronger so it would be simple for them to send it somewhere else.