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9344920 No.9344920[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Why are the Japanese allowed to show children naked or in sexual situations as though it's nothing? Doujinshi and stuff I can understand, but it even happens in popular culture. Pic related, it's from a cartoon called "Dance in the Vampire Bund" (I'm just using it as an example, cool the /a/ redirects).
This obviously wouldn't fly in most civilized countries. Case in point, this image/thread is likely to be deleted.

>> No.9344922

>>9344920

Because Japanese are not retarded christians, and understand 2D != 3D

>> No.9344928

>>9344920
Photography of naked children was considered art just 1 or 2 centuries ago. The Japanese merely haven't catched up to modern civilisation standards.

>> No.9344925
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9344925

>Mina Tepes
>Child
Nigger please.

>> No.9344933
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>> No.9344929

>>9344922
What about junior idols, then?

>>9344925
Physically a child. You know what I mean.

>> No.9344939

Child porn was legal in Japan until 1999.

>> No.9344935

>>9344920
Describe children

>> No.9344938

>>9344920
because it is nothing
its just a naked kid
only insecure pedos will have a problem with it

>> No.9344947

>>9344938
this
In normal countries nacked children on the beach is normal. No one cares.

>> No.9344948

>>9344920

Rachel Alucard isn't a child. She's like 500 years old.

>> No.9344950

>>9344935
Anyone under the age of 18. I'm happy to accept ephebophilia is fine though, and fuck anyone who says it isn't. I guess I'm mostly referring to prepubescent children.

>>9344938
But it's in a sexual context. That's the point. Again, I don't like to gamble with my own thread, but I'll bet this gets deleted.

>> No.9344958

>>9344950
>sexual context
yes the human body is sexual, thats kinda its point

so what?

>> No.9344963

>>9344939

But Japan also has one of the lowest % of child molestation cases in the world. America, which is insanely prudent towards sex and censorship has one of the highest.

It's a fact that the more socially acceptable sexual material is (not CP, any sexual material at all) the less that society commits sexually related crimes. The rest of the crimes are made by power rapists, which don't even care about sex, just power and humiliation.

>> No.9344970

There is nothing intrinsically sexual about a nude person, and especially a nude child. It's the social constructs that make something like that sexual.
Studio SHAFT decided that having Mina nude in some scenes was more interesting than censoring it in some hamfisted manner. In fact, by displaying it normally, it was actually robbed of most of its potential sexuality, which I found very interesting. Granted, the show/adaptation of the source was garbage, but I liked what SHAFT did there. An upper-body-nude child is still intrinsically sexual to some people, I give them credit for having the guts to pull something like that. The OP, not so much.

>> No.9344968

>>9344958
So you're okay with sexualizing children?

And even if you are, why is Japan in general? How does stuff like this make it past the censors, and why aren't there public outcries?

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>>9344929
>What about junior idols, then?

I find funny that this happen in the west aswel and nobody is flippin their shit just because he's male, is that sexist or what?

>> No.9344976

>>9344968
Why would there be a public outcry? It's just a naked drawn girl.

>> No.9344977

What the fuck guys? I see British documents with African girls their breasts hanging out in all their glory. That's ok.

Then when there comes shit like. "I'm pumping my sperm in my freshly raped bloody five year old!!!" When that becomes mainstream outside horror category. Then we are going to have a problem.

>> No.9344986

>>9344970

Oh shut the fuck up. I agree with what you're saying, but this show was HERP DERP I NAKED PLS RUB MY BODY I TEASE U NAO.
It was pedo-pandering bullshite.

>> No.9344985

>>9344981

Yes

>> No.9344988
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>> No.9344991

>>9344986
That's just how your pedo brain sees it, don't project your own desire to touch young children on the rest of us please.

>> No.9344992

>>9344968
Because different cultures obviously.

Also this: >>9344976

>> No.9344997

Japan is the land of freedom.

>> No.9344998

please don't turn this into another pedo morality thread.
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>> No.9344994
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9344994

post more naked girls

>> No.9345002

>>9344994
Why does she have a cell phone? Filthy whore.

>> No.9345001

I've heard rumors that Nozomu Tamaki traces CP. Is it still harmless?

>> No.9345006

>>9345002
It's pretty normal for young kids to have cell phones these days, anon.

>> No.9345003
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>>9344998
How about we turn this thread into...

>> No.9345004

>>9345001
That's Rustle you're thinking of.

>> No.9345007

>>9345001
Is it harmful if I trace your post right now?

>> No.9345008

>>9344928
>centuries
Nigga please.

Think decades. Hell, it still is. One of the Brooke Shields photos from when she was a child was posted on a local newspaper's website like it's nothing, and that's full frontal nudity.

It's the context that matters.

>> No.9345009

>>9345002
I- um what?

>> No.9345010

>>9345008
Are you implying decades are longer than centuries?

>> No.9345011

>>9345001
CP itself is already harmless.

>> No.9345013

>>9345008
All re-releases of Pretty Baby (and that other one) have the nudity cut. And it's not like it was in a sexual context. Okay she works in a brothel and has sex with people, but it's not like the nudity is intended for weirdos to fap to.

>> No.9345012

Because the Japanese are capable of differentiating fictional characters from real people, thus restrictions on fiction -especially 2D fiction- are less strict. It serves as even more proof that they're more sane than the supposedly morally superior west.

>> No.9345014

>>9345007
Yes. Comments are owned by the post so that would be against the law.

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>>9344970
>some hamfisted manner
Every single time.

>> No.9345018

>>9345002
I guess she is apart of the new sexting cp market. 25 percent of youth are doing it now.

>> No.9345025

Released in UK, it's art.

Stop being a paranoid pedo. Beyond that, nudity of any type is not allowed on a worksafe board, and this will be deleted.

>> No.9345019

>mina
>child

>cartoon
get the fuck out

>western "values" must be valid all around the world
fuck off

>> No.9345022

>>9345006
Is this true?

I am upset by this if it is.

>> No.9345023

>Why are the Japanese allowed to show children naked
>This obviously wouldn't fly in most civilized countries

Finnish and Japanese don't think SEXSEXSEX the moment they see naked children. Here there are quite a few (usually drama) movies with mild child nudity in them and no one gives a shit.

Though obviously DitVB's Mina was pure fan service. Luckily Japanese are able to distinguish between fantasy and reality and not replicate everything they see on TV. If we couldn't, half of Facebook users would be real life farmers.

>> No.9345026

>>9345010
I don't think he is. Why would you think that?

>> No.9345031

>>9344968
So you are fine with violence in movies and video games that provokes people into killing people in real life?

>> No.9345033

Don't french show 3DPD underage on TV all the time?

>> No.9345037

>>9345022
I've heard about 10 year olds with iPhones. I have no idea how common this is though.

>> No.9345040

>>9345033
Yes, the French don't give a fuck

>> No.9345042

>>9345022
Kids these days have cell phones, wear ear rings, dress in short shorts, swear at people for no good reason, and never shut up about Family Guy. I know because my little sister always has her friends over.

>> No.9345043

Mina is fucking hot, I'd bang her all day and night.

>> No.9345044

Um, dudes, le janitor just emptied the report queue. I think it means we can post nipples on blue boards now.

>> No.9345046

>>9345023
>don't think SEXSEXSEX the moment they see naked children.

I only do because of the overprotectiveness surrounding children. Like even actual pedos on the internet don't affect me, but the whole PPL R OUT TO MOLEST UR KIDS!!!! moral panic makes me think of fucking children whenever I look at them. I don't *want* to, I just feel like it's expected of me. Or that other people are thinking it. Or something, I don't know.

>> No.9345051

>>9345044
There's nothing wrong with nipples as long as they aren't sexual.

>> No.9345050

Do not post NSFW content. Please review the rules before posting.

>> No.9345053

I'm not sure how Europe works but USA is afraid of sex pisses me off. Especially when extreme violence is welcome.

>> No.9345055

>>9345046
Oh god I know exactly how you feel. It actually scares myself I little since I have no desire to but I keep thinking about it whenever I am outside and see a kid.

>> No.9345056

>>9345031
Pretend murder isn't a crime.
"Pretend" CP doesn't exist--it's either CP or it isn't.

This analogy doesn't work because, yes, downloading photographs of kids to masturbate to is illegal. You can go your entire life without touching a real child, this wouldn't change.

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>>9345050
Don't tell me what to do bitch

>> No.9345068

>>9345056
Read the post I am quoting. I never said that downloading cp is a good thing. I'm arguing for lolicon since they don't exist.

>> No.9345070

>>9345056
>downloading photographs of kids to masturbate to is illegal
This is false in two ways. Downloading images of kids isn't illegal and masturbating to them in itself isn't illegal either.

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>> No.9345075

>>9345056
What does crime have to do with anything?

>> No.9345077
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>>9345058
Please don't post lewd images of Taiga.

>> No.9345078

I wish I had some massive control over society.

We have two choices:
1) Take your sexual liberty to its most liberal extreme. You can't promote SEXUAL FREEDOM "for N values of freedom". Do some research, let kids have sex. Pedophiles are fighting for the same things you are, and they're suffering all the same prejudices you had problems with.
2) Grow up a little. Get out of this horny teenage phase, realize sex is serious business and save it for marriage. There isn't some magical, metaphysical thing about sex, and it doesn't have to be religious, but you wouldn't kiss a random stranger on the lips, so don't fuck people you've known for a few hours.

>> No.9345079

>>9345056
What if you don't masturbate to them?

>> No.9345079,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>9345044
This janitor mang, he is like perma-high, or something.

>> No.9345079,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>9345079,1
It was a mod. I was banned for ten days for posting NSFW content on a SFW board.

But I called it, so that totally makes it cool.

>> No.9345079,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>9345079,2
You got banned in this thread?

Shit son, I think it means that the janitor has to keep the thread alive until the mod fulfills the ban request.

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