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Did any of non-English /jp/anons have problems with their own language after spending so much time here? I feel so detached and weird when i'm not writing in English...

>> No.9318978 [DELETED] 

btw im a girl,

>> No.9318988

Yeah, I often find myself looking for a word that doesn't exist in my language when I speak with my family.

>> No.9319000
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>>9318988
I know that feel...!
It's one helluva feel

>> No.9319011

>>9318988
This happens far too often.

>> No.9319008
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>>9318988
>looking for a word that doesn't exist in my language when I speak with my family.

Yep. Been there done that.
In fact you could say you think differently as well.
And possibly turn less alpha and more beta.

>> No.9319017

Not anymore difficult than what it was before, however I did find out that I can read kana faster than the script used to write it.

>> No.9319018

>>9319011
>>9319008
>>9319000
>>9318988
>>9318974
What's with all the terrorists?

>> No.9319022

i actually try speaking to my mother in english, i only realize after she gets confused. i often find it hard to translate my thoughts, i can't find the right words.

>> No.9319025

I'm not English, but English is my ``own'' language. So, no.

>> No.9319028

Yes, I speak german outside of /jp/ and find it hard to find certain words.
I also speak turkish with my family, then it's even harder

>> No.9319029

No problems with my native language and english. My only issue is with japanese, because I'm still studying it.

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>>9319028
>german
>turkish
sad aryan frog.jpg

>> No.9319045

i even think in english now more than in my native one.

>> No.9319046

>>9319028
You almost got me, you silly you.

>> No.9319048

I know what you mean, good thing I don't have that problem anymore since I immigrated to english-speaking country.

>> No.9319051 [DELETED] 

>>9319048
>mexicans

>> No.9319060

I don't even think in my native language anymore.

>> No.9319065
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>>9319051
I'm german

>> No.9319067

>>9318974
No I do not have that problem.


Rob nikada!

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>>9319065
don't need to be sad, I'm sorry anon

>> No.9319073

>>9319028
what's with all that turks? all the germans i've ever seen are either actual turks or look like ones. how did you all end up there?

>>9319018
now that i think of it, what languages are you all speaking?

>> No.9319076

>>9319073
Arabic

>> No.9319078

Yes and that even though I go to university.

>> No.9319085

>>9319073
It's the same in UK,
turks have invaded germany
they are kind of like blacks, always in groups, causing trouble on the streets and hating germans

>> No.9319091

>>9319085
But everyone hates Germans.

>> No.9319095
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>>9319085
what do you want to do about it, turbonerd

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>>9319095
Nothing since I already got out of there

>> No.9319106

I think in english for many years now, clearly thats a normal ocurrence

>> No.9319108

>>9319095
*turbanerd

>> No.9319127

When I was at most isolated I forgot most of my own language, it came back though, slowly.

I still talk and think to myself in English though.

>> No.9319141

>>9319127
Forgetting a language must be a terrible thing.

>> No.9319154

I'm polish
but I stopped thinking in polish many years ago
don't read and write anything in polish
and don't talk a lot so...yeah I find it hard to speak in this language and when I do I keep making up weird grammatical structures or using the word I imagine are not very popular in polish language. but it's not my fault this language is so poor and it's so hard to find appropriate vocabulary to express my thoughts in it!

>> No.9319173

Globalisation needs to be smashed.

>> No.9319184

>>9319141
Not sure about that guy, but in my language there is an extensive usage of foreign words. It does not matter if I forget most of the vocabular as I would be able to English (or any other language) words in my sentences and get my point across if the other person knows the word I used. Theres a term for this type of language in English but I have forgotten it.

>> No.9319199

>>9319184
Anglicism.

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>>9319184

>> No.9319232

Play videogame in english
Watch animu in english
Read VN in english
Read Books in english
Browse shitons of english boards


So yes, i'm confused as fuck.

>> No.9319241

>>9319184
Anglicism. It makes you look like an idiot, by the way.

>> No.9319244

>>9319141
Not as terrible as knowing that oneself is just a mish-mash of other people you meet and read 'bout, and having no real "self".

OT tho, I didn't forget all of it.

>> No.9319265

>>9319154
i gotta admit i have the same thing with grammar. and i usually talk in some weird polish-english mix with people i know who can into english. it's easier that way.

>>9319184
what language is that?

>> No.9319274

>>9319199
Its either Creole or Pidgin. But I think Creole is more appropriate in this case.
>>9319241
No it does not make me look like an Idiot, at least when I speak to my family.

>> No.9319275

>>9319241
Why?

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>>9319244
>knowing that oneself is just a mish-mash of other people you meet and read 'bout, and having no real "self".

>> No.9319280

>>9319274
So you're a negro?

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>>9319244
is this guy serious? or what?

>> No.9319285

What if you guys were truNEET and never talked to anyone, completely forgetting your home language, then the internet goes out?

>> No.9319301

>>9319284
It's true, there is no real freedom, you are just a product of your environment

>> No.9319305

>>9319284
you never got that feel? it's obviously not true, but i thought it's pretty common to feel/fear that.

>> No.9319306

>>9319265
>i usually talk in some weird polish-english mix

I used to do that in high-school, but it didn't cut it either
it sounded retarded and fake
so now I use either weird structures or extreme generalizations

>> No.9319307

>>9318988
>>9319060
>>9319232

This.

>> No.9319309

>>9319285
But that would be a hikki.

>> No.9319311

>>9318974
I think in a mix of english and japanese. In the rare times someone speaks to me, I immediately try to answer in japanese. I immediately stop myself and answer properly, in english.

That's when I realize I'm Spanish.

>> No.9319313

>>9319284

He's probably quite serious, and his is a philosophy I also subscribe to. What we call "us" is just a mishmash of our environment, our needs, how we grew up, and a bit of chemical makeup

At the workplace, I am the gregarious and guffawing faggot who will always chuckle at a joke no matter how fuckawful it is. I act lively, spirited, and fun at all moments of the day

At home, I become someone far closer to what "I" am; a reclusive introvert who has little to no interest in the day-to-day affairs of other people

It's why I love 4chan so much, incidentally. It is the only place where a human mind can be truly free

>> No.9319321

Way too often, I'll find a really elegant way to phrase my thoughts, only to realize it only works in English. I hate how extensive the English vocabulary is, gets really frustrating when trying to express myself in other grammatically similar languages.

>> No.9319322

>>9319275
Because you can't even speak your mother tongue properly, that's why.

>> No.9319326

>>9319313
You're so deep man

>> No.9319328

>>9319305
when I was 13, maybe
then I realized that although we are influenced by all the factors(not just people and society) what shapes us is how we react to all this shit, not the shit itself
so, nope

>> No.9319329

>>9319301
it's based in reality, but it's not exactly true.
>>9319313
>What we call "us" is just a mishmash of our environment, our needs, how we grew up, and a bit of chemical makeup
this guy got it, IMO.

>> No.9319334

>>9319328
And why do we react to things the way we do?

>> No.9319341

>>9319265
I don't really feel comfortable with that.
>>9319280
No.

>> No.9319358

>>9319334
you don't seriously expect me to know all that complicated stuff that hasn't been discovered yet, do you?

anyway, why does it matter? you make choices, as long as you can do something does it matter "how" you do it?
no, it doesn't

>> No.9319352

>>9319329
oh and i would add genes and stuff like that to the mix. but my point was that while it's partly true we are shaped by lots of other things besides enviroment.

>> No.9319360

>>9319322
Heh, scrub.

>> No.9319365

>>9319313
>>9319352
/r9k/ pls no

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Since this is a /soc/ thread already and I don't feel like shitposting right now:

Has anyone ever felt weird after not masturbating for a considerable amount of time (4 days for me)? I'm having weird attacks of roneriness and attraction to 3D pigs.

What is happening, /jp/?

>> No.9319377

>>9319370
Since you stop yourself from masturbating, your subconscious is forcing you to get rid of the excess sperm in your testicles by trying to make you fuck some girl.

>> No.9319378

>>9319370
it's not connected to masturbation

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I would also like to add that everything that happens is a reaction to something else on a very complex scale. Free will does not exist. I'm outta here, see you later weeaboos.

>> No.9319383

>>9319365
why /r9k/ of all things?

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>>9319370
/jp/ is a harsh environment,
and only the best trueNEETs, who can completely eliminate their carnal desires for 3D women, can survive here.

Short story shorter,
get out of /jp/

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>>9319378
I'm certain it is. I've never had this before and I've never went more than a day without masturbating.

>>9319377
I guess that makes sense. I only have to wait one more day anyway.

>>9319392
Wow, I've never been told to get out of /jp/, yet. How rude.

>> No.9319405

>>9319396
Sorry I popped your cherry on that one

>> No.9319415

>>9319378
>>9319396

I can only masturbate on my left side.

>> No.9319412

>>9319379
So I really am just watching a movie.

>> No.9319418

>>9319396
What do you mean, you only have to wait one more day? Why can't you do it now?

>> No.9319419

>>9319396
whyd you stop fapping?

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>>9319418
>>9319419
I'm waiting for my onahole.

>> No.9319429

>>9318974
Depends on the subject matter.

>> No.9319431

>>9319028
What's it like living in Germany as a Turkish guy? I would like to hear a different viewpoint on this matter. Do you sit with your families hating on Germans or are Turks tolerant of Germans?

>> No.9319450

>>9319200
Sometimes I wonder how many other Finns there are on here.

>> No.9319456

>>9319450
Far too many

>> No.9319457

>>9319450

Probably all of them. It's like they just managed to finally get internet and they're all trying to figure out how it works.

>> No.9319460

>>9318974
Some things feel more natural in my second language. Since I'm an amateur author, I tend to think a lot about the right way to express things and the language chosen is an important part of that.

Besides that, when using my second language for a while, I encounter difficulties with my mother tongue, forgetting important vocabulary and even employing foreign grammar to create linguistic abonimations.

>> No.9319468

>>9319428
Ah, I see! Will you collect all the sperm and drink it afterwards? You'll probably blow huge loads.

>> No.9319500

>>9319450
there are no real finns. there are only poles and jews pretending to be finns to blame their shitposting on someone else.
the only finns here are actually quality posters, so they don't count.
name the fallacy i just used.

>> No.9319501

>>9319468
N-no, I probably won't. And I hope so.

>> No.9319522

>>9319500

argument from suck my cock, dude

>> No.9319560

>>9319309
Some people can't tell the difference.

>> No.9319579

>>9319560
Does truNEET even have a proper definition other than that it's what we are all supposed to aspire to be?

>> No.9319598

>>9319579

truNEET was to seperate people who were actually NEET from those going "Imma NEET desu ne v^_^v" but in the end this was taken by them too to mean super-awesome NEET.

Like any Japanese word, foreigners have no concept of what the word actually means.

>> No.9319621

>>9319598
NEET is not a Japanese word and it has a clear-cut definition. There is no semi-NEETing.

>> No.9319612

Yes, sometimes I'm doing the reverse translation of some terms from English to my own language because I already forgot about them. Even so I majorly think in my own language...

>> No.9319636

>>9319579
well, i think about it this way:
NEET = not engaging in official work (job/education)
work = "exertion or effort directed to produce or accomplish something" (just copied that from dictionary)
truNEET = no work at all = only engaging in unproductive, but enjoyable activities
which basically boils down to:
truNEET = taking it easy as much as possible

>> No.9319680

>>9319636
It actually has to do with how long someone has been unemployed/out of college.

Someone between jobs is not a NEET. Neither is someone who just finished college.

>> No.9319671

>>9319636
Nice idea. I could work with that, if the rest of /jp/ gives its consent.
(no point using words in a way that nobody else agrees with)

>> No.9319693

Arguing about this shit?

Again?

>> No.9319768

>>9319621

That's exactly what I said... except NEET is an abbreviation used primarily by the Japanese government to specify a specific kind of person.

>> No.9319888

All the sites and forums I visit, all the books I read, all the subbed anime, and the TV I have been watching for the last 3 years are in english. Most of my thoughts are even in english.

Spanish is starting to sound stupid.

>> No.9319909

to specify a specific kind of specifism

>> No.9319962

Yeah.
For example, I can say think about "frilly dresses" in English, but if I say something like that out loud in my language it sounds cheesy as fuck.

>> No.9319964

>>9319888
>starting to

>> No.9320018

>>9319962
I don't even know how to say "frilly dresses" in my own language.

>> No.9320046

>>9320018
Röyhelöinen puku.

>> No.9320104

>>9319962
>>9320018
>falbaniaste sukienki
bloody hell, it sounds retarded.

>> No.9320213

フリルドレス

Everything sounds better in Japanese, what's your excuse for not learning it?

>> No.9320219

>>9320213
Does laziness count as an excuse?

>> No.9320231

>>9320213
Kanji.

>> No.9320240

>>9320213
but i am learning it.
i'm just going really slowly and taking long breaks.

>> No.9320241

I like how the janitor leaves this clearly non-/jp/ meta thread, that even has an anime screencap in the OP, meanwhile he will delete an LN thread if it simply has an anime adaptation.

>> No.9320247

I had a period when whenever I was arguing with someone, the word "implying" popped in my head but there's no way to say something like that in my native language.

>> No.9320254

>>9320241
LNs go in /a/ moot agreed don't bother him about it.

>> No.9320256

>>9319309

That is what the "tru" in the truNEET is for you sperglord

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>>9319313

You are me!

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>> No.9320461

DEUTSCHEN VOLK BERICHTEN IN

>> No.9320477

what are you talking about, I want to be your friend

>> No.9320491

>>9320213
But I did. That's what I use. English for technical/fantastical terms and Jap for cheesy garbage.
I'm now enjoying 恋の発車オーライ!, and I don't even want to think about how cringe-worthy would hearing the lyrics in Spanish be. Just the title is... ugh.
But hearing those things in Jap is オーライ!
Strange, to say the least.

>> No.9320513

>>9320461
Was ist mit diesem Rätselwort gemeint?

>> No.9320530

>>9320513
Es ist 4 uhr. Bitte geh schlafen.

>> No.9320602

>>9320513
du bist wütend?

mein Deutsch ist perfekt

>> No.9320679

>>9320602

sukt mein cock, mensch

>> No.9320735

>>9319244
you're stupid.

>> No.9320770

I got to the point where I always install my PC software in english, since I feel more comfortable reading english rather than my own mother tongue (portuguese).

I'm somewhat in NEET mode too, so when I do have to talk to someone in portuguese it comes out awkward and weird. I tend to think in english first and try to translate what I thought into portuguese later.

気持ち悪い。

>> No.9320934

>>9320770
Yeah, I use all my software in English. No shitty translations, no text cut-offs, and more.
それがニュータイプの証かもしれない。

>> No.9320994

>>9320213
>all those r's
It doesn't sound better at all.

>> No.9321029

>>9319232
>Watch animu in english
Hopefully you're talking about subtitles.

>> No.9321250

>>9319379
I really hope you realize this is an incredibly debatable opinion.

>> No.9321265

>>9319500
Appeal to ignorance? Please correct me on this.

>> No.9321566

>>9320770
The only reason why I install almost exclusively in English is because games are so obviously better in their original language and with other programs I don't trust them anymore.

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