/jp/ - Otaku Culture

That's quite the projection there buddy.

>>9290377

>I finally understand just how useless and inferior I really am.

This was my experience. Don't jump the gun.

I've always known I was inferior even during school so I would either sleep through the day or sit in the bathroom surfing the net on my phone till art class.

>>9290381
>How do you deal with the fact that you stayed in a safety bubble your whole life, thinking you were more intelligent/skilled/knowledgable/better anything than "normals"

That's quite the projection there buddy.

I don't care as long as I have fun and enjoy my lifetime
enjoyee
enjoyee
and don't overthink

you don't need social skills why are you getting stressed
the clock is ticking
think-every second you don't take it easy could be a second you do take it easy
every fuck you give can be a fuck not given

>>9290371
No one but you thinks like that. I just like 2D more than 3D ; real persons are of no concern to me and I have no reason to compare myself to them.

>>9290371
I never thought I was better.

Why did I even try to go outside if all that was gonna happen is failure and reality hitting my escapism fantasies like a truck?

>>9290371
Congratulations

>>9290406
ramen

>>9290386
My situation is a bit different but I like how you think

The wiring in my mind is frayed a bit and I am prone to bouts of paranoia
I see a counselor and go to AA to help curb the excesses of my issues
But often times my social anxieties act up and I retreat into myself to the point where I don't feel like interacting with people

When that happens I just try and take it easy, it calms me down and usually reminds me that a lot of what I'm feeling is just my mind flipping out again
And then I'm usually able to right myself and make progress and move forward

>>9290432
that's how I was in the past
that's STILL not taking it easy

the very fact you over think it like that and you meet a counselor and try to suppress these thoughts when they occur means you're still not taking it easy at all

STOP. CARING.
telling yourself to take it easy is still giving too much of a fuck

>>9290462

It's hard to stop caring when your economic and following that physical survival is dependent on how well you do outside your house.

You cant take it easy then, not until you succeed in securing an economic position of safety and can now take it easy with no worries.

>>9290477

you actually believed normie bs?

listen, your economic and personal survival is guaranteed by hundreds of organizations, including the government of your country.

however, that's not the problem. the problem is that you care about survival.
it doesn't matter how or when you die. you'll worry about it when you start dieing. it's how you live, boy.
you die for sure, make sure you live the best you can before that happens.

>>9290462
I wish I could. I've tried to stop caring about everything, but when that happens my brain just finds something else to worry or be angry about

Rather than trying to ignore my cares and letting them fester I've been trying to recognize the fact that I'm worrying about something without ruminating it over and over and inflating its importance in my mind.

It's working so far, though it doesn't work all the time, it works better than not caring at all. When I stopped caring I would drink and get angry and then start having violent revenge fantasies. Those scared me so I'm truly sorry when I say that I can only take it easy my way.

>>9290510
how can you claim you don't care if you get angry and have revenge fantasies?

also, I don't mean not caring about anything. I mean ignoring things that don't give you joy

>>9290371
2/10 you need to work on your tone.

>>9290539
Letting go is a hard thing to do. Many of these things are parts of me that have been there my whole life. It's like having a tumour inside my mind. I can ignore it all I want but I can't wish it away. At least if I recognize it but refuse to let it play on my mind I can try to starve it of the oxygen it needs to continue.

Also I misunderstood you there. Back when I was trying to fix my own problems I tried to force myself to not care about anything by drinking until I couldn't really feel or think. But eventually I got to the point where liquor just made me even angrier.

Frankly I don't understand myself half the time.

>>9290371
>Fellow hikkis,
Fuck off, we're not all useless scum in this board.

>>9290619
>force myself to not care
Different anon here, but you're doing it wrong, friend.
If you're really serious about trying to "let go," I suggest studying up on some Buddhist or Taoist practices. Say what you will about it, eastern philosophy has an incredibly sound viewpoint when it comes to this sort of stuff. Don't expect to reach enlightenment or magically have your problems solved, but putting into practice some of their teachings little by little may help you.

>>9290664
Thank you. I have already read about Daoism and the philosophy of The Way and I find it very interesting

I don't have this problem because I'm not a subhuman, and I AM smarter than most people. The problem is, most people think they're smarter than they are, but I know they're wrong and that's enough for me. But I'm shy; it's not like I walk around lording it over people or anything.

>>9290539
Just out of curiousity, because I try hard to not give a fuck, but I also get mad and fantasize about revenge...serious question here: where do you begin? And please don't tell me "just stop thinking about it." I wouldn't know how to do that. Do you have any advice there?

>>9290656
Norml ppl pls go.

>>9290916
Not that guy, but
>Don't tell me "just stop thinking about it."
People hate it when I tell them this, but this is exactly what I would recommend.
I'm also >>9290664 this guy, and would suggest something similar (unless you're the Anon who already responded to me).

Soon...

>>9290944
Which teachings do I start with? What would you recommend?

>>9290619

>>9290972
Yeah, he seems like an angst teenager who is trying to sound all complicated and what not.

>>9290916
>I don't have this problem because I'm not a subhuman, and I AM smarter than most people

Oh please.It doesn't matter whether you are smart or not.

I generally don't believe in equality. I think some people are just born more talented, better looking, stronger, smarter...better.

I believe I am not of this variety and that I am wicked, weak, and average through and through. Worst of all I accept that I am a man without substance. I can't help my lack of luck or my natural inferiority, but I'm slowly working on becoming a person of substance. I will always be introverted and less than others, but on my death bed I want to be able to say "I tried."

To those of you who were born with luck, good looks, natural athletic ability, and great intelligence and still choose to throw all that potential away, go fuck yourselves. To those who are average or inferior like myself, I wish for you to have a satisfying life.

>>9291007
Spoken like a true normalfaggot!

>>9291021
Don't call me normal!

>>9290371

Yeah, feel so inferior and useless that I have thought countlessly of suiciding. Feels so bad man. There's also depression and paranoia, the latter which spur me to be a shut-in for years. I don't even know what to do anymore. I just continue to live pointlessly. I can't do jackshit, can't take care of myself, feel lazy, lifeless, mood swings, barely eat, body so very fragile.

There should be a limit on how far you can take it easy but...

>>9290955
Well, I was trying to find a copy of the text online, but I can't seem to find one.
I would recommend Zhuangzi's (Chuang Tzu) Inner Chapters (aside from the Tao Te Jing). I find it easier to understand from a Western perspective than something like the Tao Te Jing. In particular, I find the most profound story to be in the chapter "To Care for This Life" (at least in my translation) telling the story of a cook and an ox. I'll see if I can find a transcript online, but I highly recommend the book entirely

>>9291007
Silly idiot. Let's say you suddenly get super intelligent, athletic, and handsome.
Now what?

>>9291050
Here we go. I knew there was a name tied to it. It's often referred to as The Story of Cook Ding.
http://www.bopsecrets.org/gateway/passages/chuang-tzu.htm

I'm not partial to either translation, but read both. The idea is still there.
Don't really expect much from reading a single story, however.

>>9291000
oh I'm sorry, was my response not GRIMDARK enough for neo-/jp/?

>>9290386
This.

Life is shit, and there really is no point in living unless you are having fun.

I could not possibly care less if "normals" look down upon me for enjoying myself, let them be the ones to live embittered existences filled with envy.

>>9290386

>don't overthink
>don't need social skills why are you getting stressed

I wish I could have the same mindset as you. I tend to overthink things excessively together with my paranoia. It gets very depressing and discouraging. I wish I could not give a fuck and go live a normal life in contact with the outside world but it is too much for me right now. There's a void lingering in my heart that won't go away. I could only sigh in return as time continues to pass. I'm aware I can't stay in my comfort zone forever, but I'd like to stay here as long as possible. I don't want to feel more negative feelings by not doing so...

>>9290656

>>9291073
Thank you; I'll give it a read.

>>9291130

I used to think about suicide a lot, and it would really worry me.

Now, I still do, but it doesn't worry me as much, knowing that i'm just a step away from annihilation should anything get too shitty.

>>9291096
No, you were just being a "I am better then other people! I know I am smart!!!11" retard.

I tried to help you by hinting that, if you truly want to take it easy, you should already realize that intelligence, talent, skill etc. are not factors contributing to whether you are happy or not. But if you decided to get defensive and shoot at me shitty lines like that then, well,
TOO BAD FOR YOU

Being hikki is a response to environmental factors that have affected your life. Just try watching TV for 5 minutes and realize how far gone you are compared to the other propagandized normals. There's no way you can even relate to it. I like to think that it's like the Matrix, where we have "woken up" and reaized how much of a fraud being normal is. But I'm like Cypher, wishing that I would just forget it all and go back to being normal.

>>9291142

>>9291196
the original question was about whether we feel inferior to people. I don't. simple as that.
sorry if that offended you, anon.
way to get mad about it.

My presence seems to make others miserable and I wouldn't wish suffering on anyone.

>>9291197
I feel the same way. I can't even hold a conversation with normals because they're too busy getting buttmad that I don't watch TV.

I wouldn't want to go back to being normal, though. It's depressing being like us, but I'd prefer it to being a brain-dead normal.

>>9291214
I remember when life was like that
I couldn't tell you what changed, though

>>9291212
Indeed!
If get mad, then insane way!

OP says he woke up to realize he wasn't anymore special than other people.
Meanwhile in the rest of the thread,
>normal normal normal normal normal normal normal normal normal normal normal normal normal

I always had an inferiority complex and I like putting myself down, being introspective and keeping it to myself, and feeling ashamed of my situation.
I don't get it what you guys are so proud of.
We are all probably already listed in a government database for possible sex offenders or something. What's there to be proud of?

>>9291255
>what's there to be proud of?

my dick!
hahahahahaha

>>9291255
>possible sex offenders
....um...is that a thing? are we already in pre-crime? we fucking minority report now?
And what do you mean "what's there to be proud of?"
Just because normals want you to feel pathetic for not being like them doesn't mean you have to feel that way. I'm proud I'm not like them.

>>9291253
no idea what you're on about now.

>>9291255
The only thing I'm proud off is that I'm fine with the way I am, even if it does mean I'll end up dead in a gutter somewhere one day.

>the life of a racist

>>9291271
All they need to do is track people who download lolicon on NyaaTorrents and ExHentai and get in contact with ISPs.

They do it with people who download movies already. You're not so smart, nerd.

>>9291277
guess what
no matter what you do you'll die
happy?
well, you should be
because your time is running out

>>9291290
Well joke's on you turbonerd; I don't download lolicon because that shit illegal as hell.

>>9291289
wat

>>9291305

Naive children on the internet suffering from illusory superiority and thinking they're better than the rest of the world because they were born.

>>9291303
joke's on you coward, you're pathetic

>>9291255
>we are all listed in a government database

Damn right. For autismbucks.

Take it easy, don't think, just relax.

>>9291271

People like you are the most sad cases.

>I'm proud I'm not like them.

This is a self-defense mechanism like the whole "nerd and im proud" crap. A rationalization attempt because you can't accept you're, in all likelihood, a fucking weirdo.

>>9291337
Normal ppl pls go.

>>9291291
That's kind of the point.

I'll die no matter what I do, so I'll die doing what I want. Even if people consider it a pathetic death, I'll be fine with it.
Even if I never get what it is I wanted, at least I tried. I didn't toss it aside and go live a "fulfilling" life. I'm proud of that.

>>9291355

I'm not a normal. I browse /jp/ and read VNs in my underwear.

However I'm not using a false forced superiority complex to protect my ego. You're not superior for being a fat virgin. Fucking nerds do try to pull that always make me laugh.

I think in the beginning people were sarcastic self haters, then sarcastically arrogant, then just arrogant and some retards thought people were actually proud of being losers.

Right now people act like leading a life of hedonism has absolutely no drawbacks, like the fucking lack of experience OP pointed right there.
You say we are all going to die someday, well we'll all have to work someday too NEETfags.
If you're under 20, it's ok to be pathetic but please, don't listen to the NEETs.

>>9291380
whatever helps you sleep at night, man.
reading VNs and browsing /jp/ doesn't make you one of us, especially since (based on your posts so far), you seem to be a total normal who can't take it easy and can't handle that some people are different from them.

As I said initially, it's not like I go around going "HEY I'M SMARTER THAN YOO LAWL!" like some kind of retard. From my interactions with people, I can tell that most of them have the brain capacity of a fucking protozoa, and I know for a fact I am more capable than a protozoa.
Seriously, just take it easy.

>>9291380
nope
even if you are not normal, you sure have a normal value system

which means you're shit

>>9291380
Uh, you did notice he just said he was proud he's not like them, not that he was proud cause he was better then them.

It's possible to be proud cause you're different, not because you think you're better. I mean in today's society being different usually means you're unwanted or not liked or not needed.
Getting away from that way of thinking alone is something to be proud of I think. Doesn't mean you think you're better..

>>9291395

I'm "one of you" considering I've been here longer than you, and I can very well take it easy.

However that doesn't mean you can try to be proud for being a loser. I'm only giving you a reality check.

Since when being a Hikki is something to be proud of? You people are NEETs, not Hikkis. I bet you a can of TaP you don't even know the difference.

>>9291405
The definition of loser is relative, turbonerd.
Please leave here; this is where we autists can take it easy away from you normals, okay? Maybe go look at some 3D porn or something?

>>9291409
I'm a NEET and a hikki. I don't have a job, not in school, currently getting unemployment insurance (while going to the doctor for myriad problems that may result in a disability case later in life). You normals shitting up /jp/ are kind of starting to piss me off.
I'm willing to live and let live; let you have your messed up normal opinions or whatnot, but maybe you'd be happier on /vg/ where they discuss VNs or something like that? Because you clearly don't belong here.

>>9291409
You sure seem confident that you know more about my life than I do.

>>9290371
>How do you deal with the fact that you stayed in a safety bubble your whole life, thinking you were more intelligent/skilled/knowledgable/better anything than "normals", just to find out that once you are put in a social situation you come to finally realize that you are just a soft, ignorant person while everyone is much more sophisticated and experienced than you?

Whoa now nigger, I don't recall thinking that.

>>9290371
I never thought I was inherently superior to other people because I was never an arrogant little cunt.

>>9291441
I think OP realized he was normal.

>>9291422
> You normals
You have no base to claiming that I'm a normal, you are just a butthurt son of a bitch because I told you "you're not a Hikki" and you can't deal with it for not being in the cool kids club.

A Hikki couldn't see the doctor you claim, they don't leave their room, they have heavy psychological problems and almost go apeshit (if not go apeshit) when forced into social interaction.
You are just a fucking idiot playing cool saying "being a hikki is cool roflol" because, as any human being, think that being different is cool, even if they don't know completely what they are talking about.

>>9291438
Describe yourself, oh poor teen.

Being proud that you're a virgin or close to it is like swandiving into Darwin's pool of fail. Same goes with "social Darwinism" if you are (by normal standards) a loser.

>>9291409
if you're so proud of being normal then that's ok, but stop being a faggot

>>9291438
I think he is just mad.

>>9291409
A NEET is someone Not under Employment, Education, or Training.
A Hikki is a shut in, a recluse.

You can be a NEET and still go out and have fun with people while living of your parents' wealth. Being a NEET simply means you are not, or have no plans of giving back to society and the people around you.
Of course you can also be a NEET and a shut in.

A Hikki is someone who is cut off from the outside world, they can actually be training, or working, they just do it with little to no other interaction. Of course because they are cut off from society, whatever it is they are doing would more then likely be shunned by people.

The main difference is that NEET just want to enjoy doing what they want without having to work for it and Hikkis actively tried to avoid human confrontation or contact.

>>9291460
>>9291438
>>9291422
you guys seriously get so mad if you aren't called weird
we all here are NEETs or sad fucks, the hikkis here i'm sure wouldn't post shit in this shitty threads.

>>9291458
You already described me in the fourth line of your post.

>>9291467
Or there are NEETs like most of us who have no problem if put in a social situation, but they are not because they don't want to, and can deal with their parents but they don't want to, and there are those who CAN'T neither of those at all.

>>9291474
lol u are a freak gaaal XDD

>>9291458
>You have no base to claiming that I'm a normal, you are just a butthurt son of a bitch because I told you "you're not a Hikki" and you can't deal with it for not being in the cool kids club.
This post is a pretty good suggestion that you are.

>A Hikki couldn't see the doctor you claim, they don't leave their room, they have heavy psychological problems and almost go apeshit (if not go apeshit) when forced into social interaction.
No, that's not the case. You're the "fucking idiot playing cool" by spouting off shit you don't know the first thing about.

>>9291458
Hey dumbass, hikikomori means withdrawing or secluding. Like, being a hermit basically. Hermits gotta eat, dude.
Yeah, I go to the doctor. They're literally the only people outside of my house I can see without sperging out and going all hyperventilating crazy.
Glad they teach that HIKI AND NEET 101 course in jr college now so you guys can make fun of people on the internet.
YOU GOT ME. I GO THE DOCTOR. GUESS I'M A DAMN SOCIAL BUTTERFLY NOW.

Seriously, if it will get you off my dick, I will concede that SINCE I GO TO MY DOCTOR, I am not a hikki. I don't leave my house for any other reason, though, and I don't hang out with people or invite them over. I guess I just hate being around other people. I don't fucking care about being NEET or hikki as a status symbol; you were the one that brought that up.

I love that normals can come in here and start bullshit and then when we call them on it, the tune changes to "OH LOOK AT THOSE NERDS TRYING TO BE COOL LIKE THEIR CHINESE CARTOONS LOL NEET IDOL LAWLAWLAWLWCH2HUFUG?"

Please fucking kill yourself

>>9291495
That's predictable. Why bother bringing it up if you're not going to believe that anyone can live differently than you?

>>9291483
If you don't use it, you loose it.
You may be that way now, but keep avoiding it and it will get harder and harder to the point where you'll eventually be unable to do so.

>>9291489
>No, that's not the case. You're the "fucking idiot playing cool" by spouting off shit you don't know the first thing about.
Then instead of stating that, why not add a description of your so-poor life?

>This post is a pretty good suggestion that you are.
Just because I'm not a seriously retarded dipshit who says "i hikki i hate peoplez :(", or having a third-party view on what a Hikki is makes me a normal? I think it's more that you are just recurring to calling me a normal to try to reduce my power of word in the argument, even if I am making "shitty" conclusions about you, how about you? You are seriously in no place to speak any bullshit.

IAM SO PROUD IM NOT A VIRGIN LIKE U GUISE LOL XD

>>9291519
>Then instead of stating that, why not add a description of your so-poor life?
I'm not the one you were talking to. I'm neither NEET nor hikkikomori. I just happen to know that your statement is retarded because I actually know what the term means.

>Just because I'm not a seriously retarded dipshit who says "i hikki i hate peoplez :(", or having a third-party view on what a Hikki is makes me a normal?
No, it's because you're acting ludicrously aggressive over something I really doubt a "real hikkikomori" would give any shits about if you weren't either trolling or retarded.

>>9291505
>I love that normals can come in here and start bullshit and then when we call them on it, the tune changes to "OH LOOK AT THOSE NERDS TRYING TO BE COOL LIKE THEIR CHINESE CARTOONS LOL NEET IDOL LAWLAWLAWLWCH2HUFUG?"
>Implying

>I guess I just hate being around other people.
That doesn't make you a hikki at all. Having personality disorders happens to everyone, yet you don't see everyone with a personality dissorder overdoing it and claiming to be a sick hermit.

>>9291540
Fair enough, you win that argument.

>>9291519
Alright, guy, really, you are the one who brought up being hikki and NEET. No one had said shit about it in a while until you brought that shit up.

>instead of saying that, add a description of your so-poor life?
He doesn't owe you an explanation, you bully! We can tell from your posts you've never even googled the term hikikomori or NEET, so there's no point in us trying to prove ourselves to you. You think people on the internet give a shit about what some guy says like "OH NO WHAT IF HE FINDS OUT?!"

>>i hikki hate peoplez. :(
No one ever said you had to be a hikki to be here, but when I called you out on your normalness originally, you're the one that brought up VNs as though VNs automatically made something /jp/-related. You're being intolerant and rude, and I for one hope you are banned.

>>9291551
Hi, not sure if you read the post you linked to, since I said in the post that YOU'RE RIGHT AND SINCE I DO LEAVE THE HOUSE TO GO TO THE DOCTOR THAT MAKES ME NOT A HIKKI BY YOUR STANDARDS.

I don't fucking care. I want summer to leave.
I. JUST. WANT. TO. TAKE. IT. EASY.

>>9291556
What the fuck? I stated those people where pretending to be Hikkis since they are the ones who went batshit when I said people here pretend to be Hikkis when they are just heavy NEETs.

>you're the one that brought up VNs
...What?

>>9291573
Then if you don't pretend to be a Hikki, why did you go apeshit when I said that a lot of people here pretend to be Hikkies while the... blah >>9291582

>>9291592
>why did you go apeshit
Cause hikkikomori go apeshit when pressed during social interaction.

Clearly he's 100% hikki, this one's your loss.

>>9291602
>he

>>9291592
>>9291582
OK so apparently I misunderstood/misread you on the
>people here pretend to be hikkies blah blah
part. sorry for that. my bad.

Also, VN reference, I must have gotten one anon confused with another, because the guy that got all buttmad that I called him a normal tried to say he played VNs in his undies and shit trying to build his cred or whatever. That's all I was referring to.

trolled

>>9291621
>Also, VN reference, I must have gotten one anon confused with another, because the guy that got all buttmad that I called him a normal tried to say he played VNs in his undies and shit trying to build his cred or whatever. That's all I was referring to.
No I'm not that guy, I'm the one of the can of TaP reference.

>>9291613
WAT.

>>9291625
I want /v/ to leave.

>>9291613
lmao btw im a girl

>>9291628
alright, sorry I got you two confused. I'm not always very good at that.

>>9291629
>WAT.
It meant "I"

>>9291412

Aww sorry that I hurt your feelings. Please learn reading comprehension; this is where we autists can take it easy away from anal-pained try-hards who think they're better than everyone. Ok? Maybe go look at some 3D porn or something?

I think most of them aren't actually skilled/knowledgeable/sophisticated/etc. but rather, they are better at pretending that they are. When pressed, most buckle under the pressure. I acknowledge that there are people better than I am at a particular subject, but it's rather transparent when they aren't.

I'll fucking ageru this/