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I like dodging bullets.

This is a quality thread.

>>9249935
This is a quality response.

>>9249927
>>9249935
Stop being such meanies.

>>9249976
A quality objection.

>>9249885
>SHMUP
Please delete the thread and put STG there.

>>9250045
Not OP but now you are just sperglording for the sake of doing it.

I'm currently trying to 1cc UFO Lunatic at 90fps. It's very fun.
Here is the replay: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=22150

Also, old thread: >>9206222

Delete this thread and rename it to simply "STG".

These threads are nothing but Touhou stream cirlcejerking without any place for other games.

>>9251631
We discuss other games. If you want to discuss them, post about them. Don't complain that we never do.

Lurk more.

Is Danmagine anywhere as good as Danmakufu?

>>9252223
It does not appear to have the same kind of community to me as Danmakufu. It does look like it has some promising features, though. I can't say that I have experience with either, as I usually use raw code to make my bullets.

I can't use Marisa in EoSD because she's too fast. She can move 10 pixels in just a soft press. It's very hard to graze Patchy and Flandre's cards in Extra with that speed. Her unfocus speed is great in many situations but when it come to some dense bullets situations, i can only bomb. If only her focus speed is only half of it.

most annoying danmaku

I did it~! I got my first 1cc! I wasn't expecting this at all. I was playing Imperishable Night as Illusionary Border Team for, like, a tenth time? I couldn't even defeat Marisa on easy, and suddenly I woke up fighting Eirin with 3 lives left.
This run wasn't good and it's nothing in comparison to many people, but... I'm elated nonetheless! I feel awesome now.

>>9254572
Good.
Now beat the extra stage.

>>9254572

>>9254572
Congratulations!
Now go beat Final-B.

>>9254599
>>9254644
>>9254660
I will... but not today. I want to take it easy and learn step-by-step. /jp/ fortunately helps me with this task, so... thank you!

I can't get past the first level on any Touhou on lunatic mode.
I can't get past the second level on any Touhou on hard mode.
I can't beat any single game on normal even with all the continues.
I have beaten Mountain of Faith once on easy, using all possible continues.
Every attempt I have made at Touhou I start with the maximum allowed lives in the settings.
I have been playing Touhou for a almost a year averaging 15-20 hours a week.

What are the chances I will ever reach an extra stage and feel the sweet taste of defeat on a whole new level? My current defeats mean nothing to me anymore.

>>9254831

>I have beaten Mountain of Faith once on easy, using all possible continues.

That's an impressive feat, since MoF has unlimited continues.

I'm not sure what to say, but I'll probably be like that in a few months (aside from the max lives things.) All the drive's gone, and after playing MoF's first level 100 or so times it has become a total chore.

Try playing 7,8,13 on easy. They give you good endings, which is encouraging.

Got my first 1cc playing PCB last night during maintenance.

I'm a little proud of myself after comparing the replays from starting out last month and now.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=22152

>>9254884
>MoF has unlimited continues
I used 5, I was assuming that was the limit because... well fuck I thought the limit was 3 and if it isn't 3 it has to be 5. That's how games work. Except MoF apparently.

I'll work on 7, 8, 13 like you said. Hopefully I can get a good ending for once.

>>9254926

10,11 and I think 12 all give you unlimited continues but put you back at the start of the stage each time.

I prefer the old way (and it's back in ten desires.)

Wow I suck, I have 10 1DNB runs on the MoF Extra now.
1 on stage
2 on red frog
6 on Suwa War
1 on her fucking last card, the fuck... I was sure I'd get the NDNB, but Suwako just had to clip me.
Pic related.

I'm really pissed off, should I take a break or grind the stage some more?

>>9254956
Grind. Grind like you never did before. That`s what I do, though.

>>9254988
Suwa War walled me at the last second again. That's 11.

Aren't STG and Shump acronyms for the same set of words?.

And

Riz, gonna stream this weekend?

Working on Kaguya to complete both IN finals; is there a trick to Rainbow Danmaku? I've been trying to stream, but keep hitting round bullets whenever I'm near either side of the screen.

>>9254831
Depends on how much you play. If you keep practicing (ie playing), you'll keep improving, and eventually start beating games. My first 1cc came about 6 months after I played my first round of Touhou, with somewhat sporadic playing habits. I cleared my third game about a week ago.

>>9255159
SHMUP = Shoot 'em Up. This is the only place I've seen the term STG, and I don't know what it stands for. I used SHMUP because it's the term I'm familiar with.

Mamizou is easy in certain ways, but a lot of her cards have tricks to them and I'm not sure how to do them. I'll figure 'em out eventually. On this latest run I think I managed to get her down to... three stars left?

Also, her nonspells get fucking CRAZY after awhile. Good lord, they start off being SUPER easy, but eventually they're just a slower Eternal Meek with MANY more, larger bullets. It feels like I'll HAVE to bomb them.

At least the music is particularly outstanding.

>>9254884
>All the drive's gone, and after playing MoF's first level 100 or so times it has become a total chore.
That should not be close to enough to bring you down.
>>9254911
Good job.
>>9254956
I know that feeling. I was the same way with TD Extra. I kept getting 1-miss runs and so I did a 90fps run and called it a day.
>>9255159
STG = Shooting Game
Shmup = Shoot em' up
>>9255579
Start by going under the yellow bullets and then gradually switching to the green ones near the end. It's pretty hard to explain, so you should watch a few replays. Spell practice is your friend. Just remember that it is static.
>>9255580
I am going to Michigan on a vacation for the weekend. I will probably be back Monday, and then I will have school again until Thursday. I think that T is planning to stream during the weekend, and I'm sure that many great players would be tempted to stream if you ask them. I will only have my laptop and I'm not sure if I will have Internet. I've been playing hardcore lately, so it would be nice to have a break. Dodging bullets is hard work.
>>9255886
I don't think any of her nonspells are hard once you get used to them. You can also bomb to get trance. They looked very daunting to me at first when I started with TD Extra, but I don't think they are as tough as they look.

>>9255886
>>9257681

I messed with Spell Practice mode quite a bit, and it's hard to judge how useful it actually is. I mean, I've figured out the tricks to a lot of Mamizou's spells, but then I died like three times to her nonspells on an actual run. Also, while I can get through her spells in Spell Practice SOMETIMES, it's not consistent, which leads to deaths from overconfidence or something during my actual runs. I don't see a lot of those deaths coming, as the streaming you have to do for some of these spells is so fucking tight. I hesitate to use bombs because I think, "I can do this in Spell Practice, I can do it here!" and then I end up wasting bombs/trance to a death I would have NORMALLY avoided because I'd bomb out of fear whenever the streaming got so tough.

An interesting thing, though, is that I began to notice the input delay in TD. The difference between playing with the vsync patch and not is night-and-day for the pre-MoF games, but I didn't use the vsync patch at all for MoF and beyond because I couldn't tell the difference in control at all, and the screen tearing was bothersome. However, in TD's extra I kept dying to things that I really thought I avoided. I'd die, and something just felt... off, about the way I moved right before I got hit. Started using the vsync patch for TD, and things felt MUCH more smooth and I stopped having those weird deaths. Am I getting better for noticing the miniscule input delay when not using the vsync patch, or is the input delay slightly worse in TD?

Also, what do you mean by "You can also bomb to get trance."?

>>9258324
>Am I getting better for noticing the miniscule input delay when not using the vsync patch, or is the input delay slightly worse in TD?
It sounds like the vsync patch did help you. Every game with vsync will have at least some input lag.
>Also, what do you mean by "You can also bomb to get trance."?
You can't milk the spellcards, but you can milk the bosses in order to get spirits. When you get enough you can press C to go into trance mode.

>>9257681
>I think that T is planning to stream during the weekend
oh yeah i'd love to watch some autistic faggot restart over and over until he gets his perfect run and sets a world record in a shitty game nobody cares about

I have already 1cc'd 6, 7, 8, 10, 12 and 13 on normal and I kinda lost the motivation to play on that difficulty anymore.
Should I start working on hard? The thing is I still get buttdevasted on it (except for IN), so maybe I should clean normal with some other characters?

Also PCB was the most difficult for me, I thought it was considered one of the easier ones god dammit youmu.

>>9258449

Play 11. SA's Normal is apparently on par with the hard modes of some of the other games, but I actually haven't played any hard modes yet so I dunno.

>>9258529

Yeah, I'm working on that too, managed to get throught it with continues, but the 1cc is killing me.

>>9255886
I don't like the spellcard where she transforms into Reimu. Besides that, she's not too tough.

Posting tanuki mode.

>>9257681
So the wiki was right. Still, shooting game could be any kind of... shooting game, durrhurr.

It should be something like BEFWGOGWIDT: Bullets every-fuckin'-where game oh god why I'm doing this.

Well, goodnight.

>>9258547
Just a friendly reminder to make sure that you graze every bullet. If you don't have at least 2k graze at the end of stage 1, restart.

>>9258449
Like the other Anon said, SA normal is brutal compared to other games' normals. I would also go ahead and play 9 as well for completion, a good babby's first hard mode (at least IMO) , and because it's fun.

Just got this

I just cleared UFO with all characters on normal. I am so happy. And here is a kiss for you Riz, just because you are cute.
*kiss*

>>9260070
Congrats man. I'm too scared to even try yet.

Would you fuck Riz, /jp/?

>>9260154
Is Riz that guy who streamed clocktower a while ago?

>>9260154
No, his cuteness is not to be sullied.

>>9260154
That looks like Gengetsu. And why are you asking here?

>>9260154
yus :3

>>9259079
>PoFV
>a good babby's first hard mode.

I find SA normal mode not too hard, but it's hard to survive more than 5 minutes against some characters in PoFV in the hardest difficulty.

>>9260154
I want to sodomize Riz while bitting his left ear and meanwhile I would throb my left fist up his throat and jerk him off with my right hand, until he cums from prostate stimulation.

After that we can play PoFV together.

>>9260181
>babbys first hard mode

You don't belong here. Take your esports shit elsewhere

>>9260196
Read the fucking quoted comment, retard.

>>9260196
/jp/ is all about elitism. And don't talk to proREMI like that, asshole.

>>9260254
>is all about elitism
>lol one of us XD

Eat a fucking dick. STG isn't esports.

>>9260268
Calm down, man. You probably don't even score. How cute. Are you from /v/, by any chance?

Baby game. Play a real hard game like SC2. You guys wouldn't last 2 minutes.

>>9260692
star control 2 is one of my favorite games

>>9260268
I wish i could quote as good as you
how big is ur dick?

>>9260703

I wish I could be as ironic as you!

>>9260070
(＾o＾)
You know what to do next.
>>9260154
Well, you can't, so forget about it.

>>9259079

I have abandoned it because I hate playing it, I find it plain boring.

>>9259756
Best shooter compilmation.

Started playing this like it so far.

>>9261102
I read that as "For Sunday Shitposters" and "For Active Shitposters".

Guys. Where do I download touhou.

Welp I installed vsync patch and it didn't do shit besides make the bullets laggy. Did I do something wrong, /jp/?

>>9261180
http://pastebin.com/TDq4gZW0
>>9261212
That depends. Don't you notice the difference in input lag? Also, how bad does it lag, and on which games?

>>9261225
Only tried it on PCB so far. I guess it feels like I can control Reimu more smoothly, but the bullet's lag is very noticeable. I mean, it's playable, but bad enough so that it will fuck me up when I try to make precise dodges.

>>9254911
This guy, here.

Trying to decide what to do next.

Should I grind out a more competent 1cc, move up to hard or just move to a IN and work on 1ccing that on normal?

>>9261266

What I did/am doing, and what I can't imagine is a bad idea, is to work your way through a Normal 1cc of all the Windows Touhous (though you can skip PoFV since it's kind of its own thing), then do Extra Stages, then Hard 1ccs.

If you just did PCB, I'd say you ought to go back and do EoSD. From there, you can choose between IN, MoF, and TD. SA is the hardest one to Normal 1cc, followed by UFO.

>>9261311
B-but, China's lifeless eyes haunt me...

>>9261247
you're supposed to run the games through vpatch.exe each time, not th07.exe

Should I invest time in Garegga or Batrider?

>>9261340
no

>>9261340
battlegaregga because its got style

>>9261340
Batrider because unbalanced character tag system, awesome endings and shitload of secret hidden bosses.

Purchased Gradius Collection, on PSN which one is the easiest for a newb?

>>9261481
The gameboy advance one is like a mix of the three first titles and I think you can turn on ressurrection mode on that.

You should start with it.

>>9261481
Salamander 2 oh wait konami was too retarded to include the salamander/lifeforce games . Well atleast they are not on CAPCOM level yet.

>>9261493
Current Capcom devs do not even know about the CPS systems or even the 19XX series.

>>9261334

What? Meiling isn't even difficult.

>>9261311
Nah, I'd argue that UFO is harder to 1cc on normal than SA, then again, both are relatively easy once you get the ball rolling and start 1ccing games on normal.

In Ichirin's midboss nonspell she shoots her lazers in two waves, yeah? Well, she keeps doing this thing to me where her second wave of lasers is aimed directly at the spot where I have to dodge the first wave and there's just no escape from that. Is there a way to get her to aim her lasers differently?

>>9261835
>second wave of lasers is aimed directly at the spot where I have to dodge the first wave
>the spot
This is what you're doing wrong. There's no "spot" to dodge lasers like that, it's an entire corridor up and down the screen.

>>9261839
I mean, I always dodge them at the bottom of the screen since the gap is biggest there, and this keeps happening to me.

I just 1cc'd PoFV on easy.
This might not be a big deal to you guys, but I started playing Touhou about three months ago having never played an STG in my life. (I had only ever played RPGs). I can beat PoFV on normal, but I've never 1cc'd anything ever ever ever before today.

Finally, I'm getting better at these games! STGs are hard for me because the bullet patterns are so mesmerizing.

>>9261973
Well done! Keep up the progress anon-san.

>>9261973

>>9261973
The first 1cc feels so great, doesn't it? I will never forget mine.

>>9262011
>>9262031
>>9262131
Thank you guys! I'm trying to go for EoSD 1cc next. I can beat it; but I want the 1cc now. Feels so good!

>>9261932
>>9261932

Why the fuck would you even try to dodge there? Are you playing on Lunatic and things work differently? Dodge HERE. The gaps through which you can dodge are wide as fuck.

>>9261336
Yeah, I did that. There's a slight difference in lack on input lag, but it made the bullets quite laggy as described in this >>9261247 post.

Surely there must be a way to make this not happen, because playing with slightly laggy bullets would defeat the purpose of the vsync patch in the first place, no?

In vpatch.ini, do you set Vsync = 1 or = 0 for reducing input lag ?

>>9264220
0

>>9264213
What does that even mean, though? How can you move more smoothly but have bullets lag? How would you even notice bullets lagging?

>>9261493
That's because the Salamander games are on a different collection, as are all the Parodius and Twin Bee games.

>>9264225
Basically the tradeoff in using vpatch is that you have better control of your character, but the screen tears and the bullets skip frames slightly, making them look like they're lagging.

>>9264225
I mean, I can control my character more smoothly, i.e. less input lag. At the same time though, the bullets become slightly laggy and choppy.
Like I said, it's playable like this but when it comes time to make precise dodges, my judgement will be off because of it.

>>9264245
Your monitor must be really fucking bad to have a noticeable effect other than some screen tearing.

>>9264260
My monitor is rather new. What exactly is "screen tearing"?

>>9264274
If you had it you'd know what it is, so my bad. Basically a thin vertical line of artifacts across the screen. It looks like the screen, uh, tears.

In no way should the patch be making the game skip, really. It's made so the game plays properly at 60fps all the time, or adjusts to your monitor's refresh rate. And if the bullets become choppy, your player (and everything else) should too. I'm not entirely sure what's going on.

I use vpatch with vsync on. It gets rid of the latency in EoSD and PCB for me. Having a single frame of latency in exchange for a beautiful and clear experience is worth it.

Vsync shouldn't cause more than a frame of latency unless you have strange hardware. The main point of the vpatch is to get rid of the 3+ (and I really mean +) frames from the older games, which apparently can be fixed by tweaking certain graphic card settings for some people anyway.

>>9264300
For some people, the timing is inconsistent without vsync, so the tear will not only travel slowly in some direction, it will jump around and be jagged on a frame by frame basis, which can be incredibly visually distracting.

Perfect! I was just looking for a place to vent my anger!

UFO Normal, Sanae A.
Defeated Shou with 1 life and 2 bombs left.
Gain two extra bombs in the beginning/middle of 6th stage, will totally be fine, I got this.
RUN INTO STRAY BULLET, GAME OVER, FUCK.

MFW.

>>9264381
>two extra bombs

Not an extra life along with the free bomb? You are stirr grasshopper

Practice Murasa's stage more, I'm fairly certain you lost half your lives there. No, not Shou's, Murasa's. If you can't get past at least Stage 4 with minimal losses, you have no chance of 1CCing, whatever the difficulty.

So, to unlock the phantasm extra in PCB, I need 60 spell cards. Does capturing one in practice mode count?

>>9264427
Well, your certainty would be wrong, unfortunately.
I lost one life and I think 2 bombs to Murasa. It's only her final spellcard that fucks me up.
Got to Shou with almost full lives and 4 bombs, I believe? That's when it went to shit.
Stage? Fine. Mid-boss Nazrin? Fine. Shou's Lasers? Babby's first 2hoo game all over again.

so how 'bout dem mooshy heemey samas

Muh 360 tate theme.


also who likes to loop Gradius II forever and ever in here?


http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dark560over

>>9264468

Yes. If you're running out of cards to capture, just run through hard once and capture a few in the early stages. Despite the upped difficulty rank, most of them aren't as hard as a lot of later normal cards.

>>9264506
Eh, you're talking about the curvy lasers? Or the two big green ones? Probably both.

I don't get why so many people have problems with the curvy lasers. When they are about an inch away from you, you align yourself to where their tip is currently pointing, as if you want them to hit you, since, you know, they're gonna curve and miss.

>>9264519
No, wait, forgive me, I wasn't being quite as much of a faggot as the original image.

also 4chan x is wonderfully disallowing me to delete my own posts

>>9264573
Yeah, both.
I think it's just a matter of me panicking and not using my brain to move my character correctly. But yeah, you're right with that strategy and I need to think about that instead of freaking out, haha.

>>9264519
>>9264610
I don´t get the point of these pictures.

>>9264658

>>9264668
Meh do a TOAPLAN is harder with 1 bullet onscreen from Tatsujin Oh or something.

>>9264675
Naw, it's not that there's just three bullets on the screen, it's that that's literally her final attack on Novice iOS Ultra.

She shoots... upwards. Away from you. And never changes the angle towards you.

>>9264685
>She shoots... upwards. Away from you. And never changes the angle towards you.

Then you better not take a look at the early cellphone ports pre smartphone era.

Seibu is harder best TLB ever.


http://youtu.be/Medtd8PUDoQ?t=3m

Needs Gradius III is harder

>>9264610
I detest streaming so all my runs eventually end up looking like the garbage on the left everywhere on the screen.

Flying about aimlessly is just too much fun.

>>9264519
>>9264610
Can't remember the font I used for it, so I can't help it be as similar as ideal. Oh well.

>>9264658
>>9264668
Anyways, it was never explained over there, but the phrase "Touhou is Harder" should be pretty self-explanatory if you look at Youtube comments. So yeah, in-joke. Most of shmups farm ridicules the series, and then last year a group of Touhou players called "Touhou is Harder" stormed the fuck out of STGT to take first. Was the most glorious thing.

>>9264991
>, and then last year a group of Touhou players called "Touhou is Harder" stormed the fuck out of STGT to take first. Was the most glorious thing

Its funny because they barely even play touhou these days.

Ironically, the hardest Touhou is the one with very few bullets

I found EoSD to be easier than IN.
Is there something wrong with me?

>>9265014

Which one is that?

>>9262306
EoSD is kind of a hard one, and if you're starting with easy mode it won't let you fight Remilia. I'd do PCB first.

>>9265058
"Hardest" can vary greatly depending on which skill level you play on and what you do with the various games' settings. If you're using default lives on normal I'd say 1cc'ing Remilia is easier than defeating Kaguya. If you're on easy, EoSD is a cake walk because you don't play stage 6 at all.

>>9265538
>what you do with the various games' settings
You don't.

>>9265007

Nonsense. I played PCB just yesterday.

Where does Ten Desires store its replays?

>>9266565
C:\Users\xxxx\AppData\Roaming\ShanghaiAlice\th13

>>9266576

Well that's fucking annoying. Thanks.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=22204

This is the furthest I've gotten against Mamizou so far. There were a couple of wasteful deaths, but damn it, this boss is a lot harder than people made her out to be.

For the record, I do know a proper way (though it might not be the best way; I'm going to experiment a little later) of dodging "Tanuki's Monsterous School", but for some reason I just never managed to get into proper position to do that strategy. I'm surprised I dodged it for as long as I did while improvising, though.

>>9265007
.ASP still plays Touhou
Erppo still plays Touhou
Naut still plays Touhou
Baity still plays Touhou

???

>>9266708
>barely

>>9267034
.ASP did some shit serious stuff with UFO lunatic this summer.
Erppo has been having fun with PCB for a while already.
Naut plays UFO every day since the game is his husbando.
I don't really know about Baity.

The only one not to have played Touhou much lately is VgameT, he's been too hurried with IIDX.


Also, I've done 7D and 6D runs of PCB normal lately. Today, I got it down to five.

Maybe I'll do four some day next week.

What does the history mean for spell cards?

>>9267159
How many times you managed to clear it over your total attempts.

>>9267159
Amounts captured/amounts seen

>>9264381
UFO Normal, Sanae A.
Get to the Byakuren with 5.66 lifes and 2.33 bombs.
There is no way to lose, right?
Get to the last spell with 2.66 lifes and 2.33 boms.
There is just no fucking way to lose, right? Right?

Honestly, suicide doesn't look all that bad, if you think about it.

I should get back on track with my playing. I have been lazy as of lately.

>>9267399

God damn man, I feel sorry for you.

>>9267399
Remilia and Kanako have both curbstomped me after phenomenal stages 1-5. Grind out some more practice runs and you'll get her.

>>9267399
I once got wiped by Byakuren on UFO normal during my first 1cc attempts with something like 7 lives and 2 bombs, it's silly but if you keep dying without having used up all your bombs you're wasting alot of resources.

how come the vsync patch feels weird with EoSD and not the other games?
Even when using the vsync patch the controls feel slightly unresponsive

i won 2hu in my first attempt

>>9268306

>>9266708

Baity and Erppo, nor VgameT (might as well add Moogy while you're at it, lol) are not in the running, though. The only people to have an impact on system11's scoreboards are Naut, Jaimers (actually doesn't give a shit for score), Heartbeam (who isn't part of this crap) and ASP.

I don't like to judge people based on their progression (the shmup genre is not a pissing contest) but this is what I've seen so far.

>>9268472
Erppo is the best player out of all of the Touhou faggots. I don't know why you'd mention Naut when he's only decent at one game.

>>9268494

He isn't, but standing out and being dedicated to one or two games is more recognizable than having experience among all. It's just how it is. Prometheus is "the" dodonpachi guy. MrMonkeyMan is "the" Ketsui guy. Gus is "the" Futari guy. It's just how it is.

>>9268758
So wrong. It's far more impressive to be good at a large number of games than to be great at a single one. That's versatility versus being a one trick pony.

MMM is "the" Ketsui guy, be he has impressive scores in a lot of games. That's what makes him the best western player.

http://www.livestream.com/Tplays

Playing Ten Desires Extra with Sanae. Pretty much exactly as >>9258390 explained. Watch me die and restart forever.

>>9268160

This is where is old (or at least, not-TD) stage unlock system for practice mode kicks you in the dick.

Who seriously ever thought that was a good idea?

>>9269302
I know what you mean. It doesn't let me practice against Utsuho until I beat her. That defeats the whole purpose of >PRACTICING<.

>>9269302
Yeah, I don't understand either. Sometimes I just want to drive a stake through ZUN's heart.

>>9269302
It makes as much sense as most NES continue systems.

Hold B, Left and Start.
Also moving in the menu with the select button so you accidentally start a new game when mashing A.
Or returning you to the stage you died unless you die in the final boss in that case you go two stages back, etc.

It's supposed to make you play LONGER.

>>9269272
Congratulations on the world record T!

>>9270527
Thanks.

And thanks to those that stopped by. The chat immediately broke when I started streaming, so I missed everything anybody said within the first... 4 hours.

am I GIL yet

If anyone is interested, Gundemonium series is on Indie Royale right now

http://www.indieroyale.com/

it has been a year since I played subterranean animism...

It was good but mostly due to nostalgia

>Dat feel when you read the story after skipping it infinite times in the past.

should I start a stream of "a guy who hasn't touvhed Touhou in more than a year"?

>>9271126
You shouldn't touvh Touhous. It's lewd.

>>9271157

what? never seen a tylo y your life?

>>9270723
Good job Phar. Do you think NDNB is possible?

>>9270723
Woah, Phar, that is some sick shit. I didn't know you visited /jp/, and you for sure have left MotK for good, have you not?

Do you use IRC?

Hitbox, how does it work ?

>>9271321

Doubt it. The probability of everything going right in one run is just too low.

>>9271344

I don't really play much anymore, so I'm not active anywhere. And I know of these threads but rarely post in them. Just happened to get a good run to boast about this time.

Has anyone got a save data of Double Spoiler that's completed up to like, stage 6? I just nuked and reinstalled my Windows recently, then pasted the saved games to where they should be located, then started Double Spoiler and for some reason it eradicated both my Double Spoiler and Ten Desires data. What the hell. :/

>>9271706
I didn't have any problem with UFO or PCB or the like when I copied them back from my external, which might have to do with how the score.dat is inside the game folder instead.

>>9271521
You really should visit #pofv, you have some fans over there.

>>9271481
Sometimes you wonder how it's even possible to get hit in these games.

I love STG and would love to participate in these threads, but the sheer amount of competitive, tryhard esport faggots always scare me.

Should I give it a chance?

>>9272602

Esports faggotry?

Take it easy and dodge some bullets.

>>9272602
>the sheer amount of competitive, tryhard esport faggots always scare me.
In these threads? On /jp/? Heck, even playing Touhou in the first place?
I have no idea how you see this.

>>9272602
When did competition become a bad thing?

>>9272584
In all fairness, the difficulty of those wide open spaces can be compensated with the sheer speed of the bullets.

Am I the only one who thinks Shoot the Bullet and Double Spoiler are insanely difficult? I've 1cc'd all the games on normal and cleared all the extras (going for hard 1ccs now and almost achieving them), but these photo games are just a whole new level.

>>9272671
You aren't. They are insanely difficult.

>>9272671
They take the riddlesovling aspect of touhou and focus on it.
With the right approach most spellcards in DS are easy, while in StB you still have to dodge a fuckton of bullets even when going the right way

>>9272602
Why don't you try hard?

>>9272671
The scene difficulties range from the equivalent of Easy spells to over Lunatic, but the spells are only tackled individually, so it's manageable.

It has the whole spectrum, but you aren't able to "choose" your difficulty like in the other games. If they were only "Normal" in difficulty, they'd be a lot less fun. You're supposed to play the whole game. Beating Normal in the other games doesn't mean you've fully played them.

I can't clear 2hus when playing on lunatic, yet when I try hard mode I feel like dying of old age when the bullets finally get enough time to move an inch. maximum annoyance

>>9273430
Play Hard at 90fps. Problem solved.

>>9273430
Try Shoot the Bullet at 90fps, it's pretty fun and not too glacial.

>>9273430
Try scoring

Scoring is suffering.

Image from a SakuyaA run.

Anyone got a highres version of this pic ?

>>9278475
>highres
Touhou?

>>9278475

http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/jp/image/1339/94/1339948324169.jpg

This?

>>9278532
Now that's just silly.

Fuuuuck I was so close to my first 1cc ;_;
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=22257

>>9281500
I don't think you did anything too bad other than messing up a little on Yuyuko. I think that all you have to do is keep trying. Also, you may want to consider using another shot. You might like it.

>>9281500
Watching the replay, even though you bombed alot you still had alot of deaths with unused bombs, if you had used your bombs more you'd be at least 2 or more lives better for the Yuyuko fight, also you were pretty close to the 1000 point item extend, you just needed to be more active with collecting point items.
Stage 4 is all about streaming, alot of your deaths and bombs were because you weren't able to properly stream or restream the bullets (ie. the section where the fairies shoot a fistfull of blue/red bullets aimed at you, which can all be streamed), and note that when the waves of wisps come which shoot both fast walls bullets and slow red bullets you can just stop shooting and stream the green bullets then shoot when left unharmed.
It might help to know that you can misdirect Youmu's first nonspell during her midboss and final boss appearance of stage 5, but you seemed to be fine with doing it eitherway.
You were pretty close to the 1cc, so with a higher bomb usage this should be more than possible

>>9281814
>and stream the green bullets then shoot when left unharmed.
and stream the green bullets which* shoot when left unharmed.

Please tell me that the difficulty curve of Extra Stage bosses lessens very soon.

Time it took me to beat Flandre: 3 days
Time it took me to beat Ran: 3 days
Time I've taken trying to beat Mamizou, whom I still have yet to defeat: 7 days

Everyone keeps telling me how 'easy' Mamizou is, and it's only serving to make me more frustrated, which doesn't help anything.

>>9282084
I think TD Extra is pretty hard compared to the other Extras. Maybe you should post a replay?

>>9282084
Something similar same happened to me, I blame the hitboxes of animal danmaku.

I have never played a Touhou game.

Is it a good idea to start with these?

>>9282125
Yes. That is almost the complete collection.

>>9282109
I like the animal orgy one.

>>9282132

Thanks. I've had those on my hard drive for quite a while, it's time to give them a try

>>9282096

It feels like every time I capture a spell card, it's luck, even after running them several times in the Spell Card Practice. I didn't save the replay, but in my last run, I made it to that "monsterous school" spell card with two extra lives and managed to lose them both to that card, even though I know perfectly well how to do it. Also, the spell card after it, where birds and dogs FLOOD in from the sides of the screen, feels rather impossible. Also, I'm trying to beat her MYSELF, without watching any replays of others.

Thanks for describing it as 'pretty hard', though. I was beginning to think that the other Extras were going to be damn near impossible for me, if Mamizou was considered 'easy'. I mean, Koishi is going to be pretty ridiculously hard if the rumors are to be believed, but it's a lot less scary if a boss I'm trying to defeat NOW is one of the harder ones.

>>9282109

The hitboxes aren't a problem. It's not as if I get hit by things I think I dodged, it's just that I get hit because there's so much stuff going on the screen.

>>9282179
It will get much easier once you clear it. Just keep trying and learning from your mistakes.

>>9282096
>>9282187

Welp, just beat the card where animals flood in from the side of the screen. Pardon me acting like a moron for the card following it, but it was my first time ever seeing it and I had no idea what to do. I'll mess with it in Spell Practice.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=22258

I know that the time I used the Trance wasn't very good, but I wanted to get a chance to use the Trance in a way that DIDN'T make me lose a life.

>>9281500 Here
I took some of your advice and managed to make to to Youmu only dying once. However, I ended up goofing and died some stupid deaths, leaving me about where I was on my replay. Oh well, I guess I'll try again tomorrow.

>>9282340
In the stage, I think the timing of your first trance could have been better and that you used too many bombs. I would hold the resources dropped from Nue's second spellcard into the third, and then collect that along with the resources from the third spellcard by trancing them both. You could also get away with another trance in the stage without bombing if you do it correctly. You were probably trying to save a trance, but you really have no reason to hold on to it for that long.

You can see how I would do it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_WSljJF0ig
It's 90fps, but you should still get the idea.

I know I should man up and do it myself but is anyone willing to upload a save of TH12 with Lunatic clear? I can't quite finish stage 3 yet, which means I can't unlock it in practice mode. (which is fucking backasswards) I'd like to practice the stage on lunch breaks and such, when I don't have hours of time on hand but then I spend all my time getting there instead.

>>9282389

>I would hold the resources dropped from Nue's second spellcard into the third, and then collect that along with the resources from the third spellcard by trancing them both.

I don't know what that means, and I'm sorry, but I'd really like to beat this without seeing any replays from anyone else. You gave me that fucking awesome replay of Stage 5 in UFO awhile back, and while it helped me greatly, I pretty much just ended up copying exactly what you did. Admittedly, the way you did it was pretty much the best way to do it, but I'd like to discover a way to beat this Extra Stage without relying on a replay. If I watch you do any part of it, I'll either end up copying it or just consciously doing something different just to avoid copying it, and I don't want either of those things. Tips, however, are always very much appreciated, and I thank you for them.

I gave up trying to capture Nue's second spellcard. I figure that I can get away with a Trance, that way I don't use any bombs, since Trance is regenerated much more easily than bombs are.

The Trance that I was actually apologizing for was the Trance used on that Amphibian spellcard that Mamizou has. That card in particular has always felt like luck; in Spell Practice, I can beat that card about 50% of the time without moving hardly at all, but I usually can never tell whether or not I need to move until it's too late. My point is, though, that it probably would have been better to use a bomb at that point instead of the Trance, since the Trance can do damage during spell cards and would have been more useful against one of the later spell cards. Bombs can destroy those frog danmaku, so one bomb would have sufficed to get me through that card instead of using the Trance.

>>9282447
Here is mine: http://www.mediafire.com/?weaxwkmwtrwpknp
I can't currently find the blank one that was modified to have everything unlocked with no other stats. If you want, you can upload your score.dat and I will do a Lunatic clear for you with your conditions, and then I'll send it back.
>>9282463
Well then I think you have it figured out. Just keep trying.

>>9282486

All right, I will, but could you explain what you meant by "I would hold the resources dropped from Nue's second spellcard into the third, and then collect that along with the resources from the third spellcard by trancing them both."? How can you Trance both spell cards? How would you 'hold' resources?

>>9282522
Don't collect them. Keep the pink and green spirits there until they are tiny and about to disappear, then trance.

>>9282533

What purpose does that serve?

>>9282543
You get double the resources that you normally would from picking up the spirits.

With no trance, you get one resource.
With trance, you get two.

Also, you get to trance into more spirits if you want, giving you even more resources.

>>9282447
>>9282486
Ah, I found it: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33903796/th_unlock/index.html
There are blank score.dat files with everything unlocked.

>>9282486
Thanks for the score.dat. I appreciate it.

>>9282573
Cheers.

>>9282561

>With no trance, you get one resource.
>With trance, you get two.

Shiiiit, I had no idea. That's neat. I'm not sure if there's a good way for me to utilize that information at all right now, but three extra lives and two bombs ought to be enough starting resources to take down Mamizou.

Also, TD's death bomb timer seems SUPER strict, compared to what I remember from EoSD and PCB. Does anyone else feel the same way?

>>9282623
I dunno about TD exactly, but it feels pretty short to me in UFO as well, so I'd guess it's something to do with the newer engine.

I've been trying forever to beat MoF on easy mode because I suck at Touhou, and I always wind up losing all of my lives on Kanako's 4th spell. I try not to continue. Any tips from someone who's beaten the mountain hag before?
Maybe I'll try it on normal, and see how far I can get. I doubt I'll ever unlock extra mode, though. Which is okay, because Suwako would horrible murder me anyway.

>>9282887
Use a bomb.

>>9282905
By the time I get to that spellcard, I've already used up all my power. My bomb finger has a tendency to react before my brain does. Guess I'll just have to try and save up my power, then.

>>9282950
Easier to explain with pictures.

I've cleared the game 3 times, but never captured Otensui. Enjoy Mountain of Faith (the spell).

>>9284716
That's extremely helpful. Did you make that image yourself, or do more like that exist?

>>9284760
Yes, there are many pictures like that. I was thinking about doing a complete one for UFO.

>>9282887
Just a tip, but Kanako's last spell is WAY harder on easy than in normal. I suggest you play on normal instead.

1cc'd every game on normal and finally cleared that heian alien today. Beat almost every extra boss now except I can't seem to get through Koishi's giant caterpillar card (last). Oh and screw Mamizou and her animal orgies, I find that even harder than Koishi ¬.¬

>>9284823
Try Marisa
Or Alice
Or Gengetsu
Or Evil Eye Sigma

>>9284786
>I was thinking of doing a complete one for UFO
That would be awesome, Riz

>>9284760
I actually did make it. It uses the normal version, but afaik you use the same strategy anyway.

>>9284786
Got anything like that for Kaguya? I've beaten her, but it wasn't pretty at all.

>>9285091
All that I can recommend you at the moment is this: http://youtu.be/Me1TymHrXww

Do I just blow or is stage 3 of UFO really stingy with resources? I can summon around one red UFO and destroy it without killing myself in the process in the whole stage.

I've been trying to beat EoSD on Hard ever since I first played it, but something I keep asking myself is whether I should continue to use Reimu's Homing, or if I should switch to either her other firing option, or to Marisa. Anyone?

>>9286576
I'd say it depends on whichever of them you like the best. I like the power of Reimu's forward-type so I use that whenever possible.

Phew, cleared stage three in UFO and unlocked it in practice. Feelssogoodman. Now, why is it that stage 4 feels so much easier than stage 3? I made it up to Murasa with relatively few problems on my first time playing stage 4 on the same run.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=22266

It is fucking infuriating how quickly things can fall apart. I was doing beautifully for so long! Using a bomb on that Avian card? Perfectly fine to me. On the Amphibian card? Also fine. But then I die to that nonspell and then die TWICE to the 'Monsterous School' card, which I have practiced the FUCK out of in Spell Practice, and there was just no fucking hope after that.

I'm trying to 1cc IN lunatic

I have reached stage 5 a couple of times today but i always start that stage with only 1-2 lives due to stupid mistakes in Keine and Marisa

also 3rd mystia's non spell is almost impossible to complete without using a bomb for me

>>9286012
I think it is pretty stingy, although the situation you described is pretty extreme. Focus on trying to get to stage 4.
>>9287992
I don't like the way you did Nue's third spellcard. You should barely move horizontally at all, and you didn't even milk her. You could have avoided that bomb, but it's still better than your last run. You don't need to stay on the bottom of the screen for Mamizou's third card. You got nervous and started dying after that. For her sixth spellcard, you have to remember to improvise. You were not in your ideal situation, so you should have found a way to extend the amount of time that you could have shot Mamizou, even if you had to use resources. What you did was hopelessly try to force yourself into an impossible dodge. Also, her seventh card is easier than it looks. You were just very nervous on it. There's not much to it other than dodging bullets. I think the stage version is harder than the overdrive version.
>>9288018
The bullet density on it is very low. You should be able to do it without problems.

>>9288907
This is low density?

Hello /jp/,
I did a lunatic no-focus run on EoSD with MarisaA, and I just uploaded the video on youtube. Please tell me what you think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTlw0dHvV5g

>>9288992
I think you cheated.

>>9289007
I didn't.

Yes! Just 1cc'd PCB, my first normal 1cc!
Replay, if anyone cares http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=22272

I'm thinking of either giving Extra a try, or trying to 1cc IN first. What shot would I use for IN if I've been using Sakuya A? I'm thinking probably Border team. What do you guys think?

>>9289233

Border team is a good bet, lots of homing and long deathbomb window.

You should play the magic team instead though, because they have the best dialogue.

>>9288907

>I don't like the way you did Nue's third spellcard. You should barely move horizontally at all, and you didn't even milk her.

Does it matter as long as I can consistently beat that card? The reason it lists my capture rate for that card as so low is because I'd be disqualified due to my Trance continuing from the second spell card. I don't see much benefit to milking her for spirits, unless it's possible to get enough for a Trance against the first wave of baddies that drop resources AND to get enough spirits AGAIN to Trance that last wave of baddies that drop resources. As it stands, starting against Mamizou with nearly four extra lives and nearly four bombs is pretty nice in my book.

>You don't need to stay on the bottom of the screen for Mamizou's third card. You got nervous and started dying after that.

Interesting, thanks. I'll experiment with it. I never really got NERVOUS until I was already dying a lot, hence my retarded ragebombspam on her seventh spell card. I expected that I'd have to use a bomb on her fourth card; clearing a card with a single bomb doesn't count as a loss to me. I've never cared about capturing cards or score; I just want to win.

>>9288907
>>9289658

>For her sixth spellcard, you have to remember to improvise. You were not in your ideal situation, so you should have found a way to extend the amount of time that you could have shot Mamizou, even if you had to use resources. What you did was hopelessly try to force yourself into an impossible dodge.

It just seemed bizarre that, if you couldn't START a spell card correctly, that you couldn't EVER get in to the correct strategy. That though never even occurred to me; I just simply tried to get back into position and fix things. Trying to improvise a new strategy on a card where bullets are being fired at you from all points on the screen at the same time wouldn't have seemed like a good idea even if I HAD thought of it. I'll remember it for next time, though.

>Also, her seventh card is easier than it looks.

Yeesh, if you say so. I'll practice that card, but dodging fast, dense bullet fields from both sides of the screen at the same time seems like it ought to be EXACTLY as difficult as it looks, which is VERY.

Thanks for all your tips and feedback!

>>9288952
To me, yes. Just find where the gaps are widest and shoot the familiars as a human.
>>9288992
I think you did a great job. I need to play EoSD more.
>>9289658
>Does it matter as long as I can consistently beat that card?
You do it in a more dangerous fashion that necessary and you miss out on spirits.
>The reason it lists my capture rate for that card as so low is because I'd be disqualified due to my Trance continuing from the second spell card.
Nobody has a way of knowing that but you.
>Yeesh, if you say so.
Okay, it's pretty hard, but it's far from impossible.