/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Yeah

Yes.

Any objections?

My mother asked me the same thing a couple of days ago.
She then burst into tears when I wouldn’t answer her.

I do what makes me happy every day

It's not nothing!

>ops pic
could this be the birth of an epic, new meme?

>>9279730
Why are you quoting?

What would you do if you had a million dollars?

Why is it that people only think you're doing something with your life if you're doing something that makes you feel bad like working and making money?

If I did nothing all day then I would literally be sitting in one place, not thinking, and just staring at a wall, but I don't do that. I do plenty of things all day.

I don't make money, but I have more fun than the people who are making money and that's all that ever matters. If you're not having fun then you're wasting time.

>>9279735
It's an arrow reference making the text reference directly to the picture OP posted.

>>9279739

I would buy a room to live in and set aside enough money to pay my expenses for the rest of my life.

Money isn't very useful aside from food and shelter. As long as I have a computer then there's nothing I could ever need to buy aside from boring trinkets like figures that would be entertaining for about five minutes.

>>9279751
Thanks

>>9279745
This. Why is time spend not making money considered wasted?

>>9279794
I suppose fools who were brought up by their parents like that think like that. It's sad but what can you do? I'll be over here, enjoying myself however I damn well please.

>>9279739
Worry less about money and continue living a modest, quiet life of reading.

>>9279794
Because that is the view held and pushed by society as a whole

>>9279745
>>9279794
How blind can you be? Unless your parents are rich and willing to tolerate your NEET lifestyle, if you aren't making money then you'll have no food and shelter.

>>9279794

>Why is time spend not making money considered wasted?

People are stupid and they think that having money somehow just magically makes you happy.

I know a person who works a lot and makes quite a bit of money, but he lives with his parents and has very few expenses. I asked him why he works so hard and he just told me that he works so he can get money. I asked him what he does with the money and he said that he doesn't spend any of it and he just saves it. Then I asked him what he's saving for and he said that he doesn't know, he's just saving it.

This kind of thinking makes no sense to me. He works away all of his free time, he has maybe 10% of the day to do the things that he actually enjoys, and the rest of the day is dedicated to sleeping or working. It's like a dragon hoarding gold. What is he even going to do with the gold? He doesn't spend it, he just sits on it his whole life for no apparent reason.

>>9279820
Autism bux

>>9279745
>>9279794
I guess it's because you're not producing anything? If you see human beings as an input-output system, you may be taking in media, oxygen and food, but all you're giving off is pollution and waste. You could be having fun AND making something, or at least making something happen.

Recently it dawned on me that I've done nothing for the world. I know most of us don't care (and I didn't care until about a week ago, and I probably won't care a week from now), but remember when you were a kid and you wanted to make stuff or do things? I wanted to make games, and I actually put some effort into it until my teens. Now I'm in my twenties and I a) haven't made anything, b) can barely program, and c) don't enjoy games.

I don't know. At least irritating bloggers and YouTube girl gamers are making content, even if it sucks. I'd at least like to have some file on a backup disk fifty years from now that says it was made by the late me.

>>9279824
Only viable if you're a snownigger.

Nope!

I might die.
I might never recover.
I might not be able to be a wizard anymore.
I might be imprisoned.
I might miss my times on /jp/.

But whatever happens, things will be different.

Wish me luck.

>>9279794
/jp/ needs to get out more and actually see how people think. I don't know where you guys come up with this bullshit.

You save to give away to powerful independent wymen who don't need your money...

>>9279839
It's the truth though. The majority of people only care about money. The only people who don't are poor people, and that's because they have no money to care about.

>>9279839
Every few years I do, and it blows my mind how wrong I was.

Then after I return to my room for a few days, I go back to being a bitter, misanthropic escapist.

>>9279706
You do realize that's my image, right?

I posted it not even 2 days ago.

>>9279827
Programming is a fun hobby. I picked it up in middle school but haven't written anything of worth all these years.

>>9279836
You're just going to end up back here again.
There's no escape from otaku culture.
You'll live and die by it just like the rest of us.

My mom took away my anxiety and sleeping pills because she caught me getting smashed on alcohol again and she was afraid I might kill myself.

Now I have premature ejaculation, I haven't slept in over 20 hours and can't take it easy with my manga without feeling like total shit

>>9279860
fug out

My mom took away my anxiety and sleeping pills because she caught me getting smashed on alcohol again and she was afraid I might kill myself.

Now I have premature ejaculation, I haven't slept in over 20 hours and can't take it easy with my manga without feeling like total shit.
Sometimes I feel like being independent.

>>9279820

>if you aren't making money then you'll have no food and shelter.

While this is true, there's also a limit to how much you need to make.

What is the point of going to college to get these high paying careers? What is the point in even having large amounts of money in the first place? Very few things in this world are actually worth buying. Most rich people just blow their money on shit that barely entertains them.

If you can look at your life and realize that the time you spend working outweighs the time you spend having fun then you need to realize that you're doing something terribly wrong and you need to get a job that pays less, but has better hours.

It's like that bare necessities song from the Jungle Book. All of the most pleasurable things in life are either free or very cheap. The most valuable thing in life though is time and most people waste the vast majority of their time working.

Working is necessary, but you should never work more than is required to sustain the absolute bare necessities of survival (cheapest food, cheapest shelter, etc)

>>9279827
>remember when you were a kid and you wanted to make stuff or do things?

I used to draw and make websites and also wanted to make video games, share stuff with the world. Now I'm in my twenties and I don't even seed my torrents.

But nothing is all I can do with a biology BA.

I don't even know why I went into bio. My real passion was always computers but everyone told me the market was over saturated and there was no money in it. Now I'm unemployed with a degree I hate and debt up the ass.

Maybe I should go back and get a bioinformatics degree.

http://education.ucsb.edu/janeconoley/ed197/documents/brickman_lotterywinnersandaccidentvictims.pdf

Money isn't worth shit. It won't make you happy (for long) and you derive less pleasure from "the simple things in life".

Doing whatever you want every day of the year with some sort of occasional reward (alcohol, technology, fumos, figma) is the way to go.

>>9279827
>I know most of us don't care
You are very, very wrong. At least if you're talking about people in general.

>>9279869
You just made the biggest mistake of your life, kiddo.

>>9279894
Pretty sure he was talking about /jp/

>>9279899
Eagle san you're the only father figure I have.
Even if you're not the same guy.

>>9279894
I meant /jp/. The vibe I've generally gotten is that most people are fine with not doing thing. /jp/ers don't want to be SELF-ACTUALIZING PERSONS because they're already there, just by sitting at home and playing eroge all day.

>>9279827

I used to want to make video games, but then I realized that it's not fun to make things.

Look at movies or books. People make these so that other people can consume them and so they can become famous/get money in the process. No one writes a book so that they can read it, that would be ridiculous since you just wrote it and you know everything about it. No one makes a game so that they can play it either though.

By the time you finish the game you will be so sick of it that you won't even want to look at the damn thing and the only people who will ever get any enjoyment out of your game are the people who consume it.

>>9279860
Ask me how many fucks I give.
Go ahead.

>>9279908
Problem is, most of us are dependent and need to find a job.
Problem with finding having a job is that it only brings in even more responsibilities and bills.

>>9279910
Truly a curse. In this case, it's best to pay someone to make exactly the kind of game you want to play.

>>9279889
>My real passion was always computers but everyone told me the market was over saturated and there was no money in it.

Oh boy were you lied to. It's one of the fastest growing and most employable sectors (SOURCE: the possibly bullshit presentation that started my computer science course before I dropped out).

Fortunately, you don't need a degree. Learn Ruby and make a startup or something.

>>9279927
Of fucking course I'm not taking advice from an unemployed dropout.

>>9279936
I've heard the same at a similar presentation. Maybe you'll take advice from a double drop-out like me.

>>9279917
less than what i gave ur mom LOL

>>9279943
Have you considered your teachers were just trying to motivate you

>>9279879
Who cares if some people dedicate their life to work? Sometimes you benefit from these people.

>>9279879
The only thing I value is friends but I'm too awkward and shy to make any, even online. No amount of money can buy them either because I'll know they call me a retarded faggot behind my back and that they're just taking advantage of me.

I'm destined to be depressed and kill myself in my 30's when someone on /jp/ tells me to take my normalfaggotry to /r9k/.

Someone has a cure for premature ejaculation.
I want to at least be able to fap for hours.

Anon, why don't you ever go outside of your room? Have you abandoned at least trying to be normal?

>>9279910

Horrible bullshit I've heard in a long time. You disappoint me, /jp/.

>>9279955
take your normalfaggotry to /r9k/

>>9279944
If you said that to my face I'd kick your ass.

>>9279910
But I've often gone back to admire things I created.

Three steps to happiness:

1. Don't go to college.
2. Get a low paying job that is easy going and doesn't have a lot of hours. Make sure it pays enough so that you can afford the tiniest studio apartment available and will pay your bills.
3. Spend all of your free time doing whatever you enjoy.

College is the biggest scam on the planet. Not only do they strap you with huge amounts of debt, but in order to pay off that mountain of debt you have to use your degree to get some job that pays a lot, but gives you almost no free time.

The end result is that you work all the time so that you have the money to buy the expensive things that you wanted, but now you have almost no time at all to enjoy them.

>>9279917

>>9279966
He's not 30 yet dumbass

/jp/ sure has twisted views on reality. Maybe you shouldn't let a few bad experiences dominate the way you see the world.

>>9279971
What the fuck are you gonna do with that?

>>9279976
So what degree do you have?

>>9279976
...Are you authentically retarded? How on earth are you managing to use the internet?

>>9279745
Hedonistic scum.

>>9279991
hedonism is the way to go bro
>>>/republic/

>>9279982

>>9279980
Or just dumb as bricks. Most are just fooling around but incredibly uninsightful comments do occasionally pop out. This thread is exceptionally bad.

>>9279976
>College is the biggest scam on the planet. Not only do they strap you with huge amounts of debt
Your loss living in a third world country.

What is the point of purchasing things or working towards goals when all happiness comes from within your mind?

Why bother travelling the world when you can just master lucid dreaming and then travel the world during your dreams? Just as vivid as real life, but the world you see will be a product of your imagination so it will be completely idealized and have none of the disappointments or unpleasantness that real travelling would have.

Why date someone or get a friend when you could make an imaginary friend? There's no difference except that the imaginary friend will be perfect in every way while the real person will have imperfections.

The mind is the key to all happiness. Try to find happiness inside of your mind and you can have anything that you ever wanted. Try to find happiness outside of your mind and you will always be disappointed.

>>9279976
Pretty sure the biggest scam on the planet is private land ownerships and all its ramifications on the life of the working man.

>>9280061
I used to do the girlfriend thing. I'm also hikikomori. How big of a loser am I?
pls rte

>>9280093

>How big of a loser am I?

You can only be a loser if you're not enjoying your life. Stop caring about what other people think of you. The only person in the world that matters is yourself, everyone else and their opinions are irrelevant.

>>9280111
But I dai kirai myself.

>>9280120
I suki you anon.

Nah just kidding, I don't like faggots on the internet.

>>9280050
College is free in third world countries

>>9280111
Thanks for the advice anon!

>>9280111

>everyone else and their opinions are irrelevant.

If this is true then why should I listen to you and your opinion that the only person who matters in the world is me

>>9280126

>>9280135
You understood it well.

>>9280137
Why doesn't please respond guy use that last one
It has potential

>>9280120

You can only hate yourself if you care about other people though. Everyone who hates themselves is just upset that they didn't meet up to some arbitrary expectation that someone else set for them or that they set for themselves when comparing themselves to someone else.

If you completely ignore every other person and only care about yourself then how is it possible to hate yourself? What is there to hate when you take away everyone else and make it impossible to compare yourself to others? It's only possible to feel ugly when you compare yourself to someone else's looks and it's only possible to feel inferior when you compare yourself to someone who you believe is superior, but if you isolate yourself from the rest of the world and only think about yourself then how is this possible?

>>9280164
But expectations are essential. I appreciate what the modern community has given to me.

>>9280146
Oh?

silly people, they seem to think you an only enjoy things when you have to put effort into them


>>9280164
I hate all humans because of their inherent flaws, including me.

>>9280185

>But expectations are essential.

Why should you care about what someone else expects from you though? If it's not something that you want to do then you have no reason to care about it.

What can the world give you that your mind can't provide you with? There's basic food and shelter, but that's it. Why buy a game when you could imagine that game through a lucid dream and it would be unimaginably superior in every way? This applies to pretty much every single thing in the world. The world can give you almost nothing that you can't give yourself and what they can give you is an inferior version of what your mind would have produced.

>>9280227
And you get all your pleasure from lucid dreaming, right?

I've realized something important lately. We're not the only ones who don't want to work at least 40 hours a week just to get by. No one does. So why are we the only ones who don't do it? We're not. The vast majority of normalfags don't work that much. Sure, the time they spend in their workplace add up to that amount. But it's not time spent working. They spend at least 80% of their day avoiding work, mainly by socializing with coworkers.

So the reason we find it incomprehensible that people are willing to spend a third of their life at work, it's not because we're lazy and lack ambition, it's because we consider that 80% socialization part of the workday just as tiring, if not more tiring, than the actual job.

>>9280227
I think you are unironically autist

>>9280234

Lucid dreaming is only a portion of it. There's also the imagining that you can do during your waking hours which is equally enjoyable. Imaginary friends for example. You can talk to them, see them, interact with them. Once the imagination has been developed to its full potential then the sky is the limit.

>>9280227

lol very f*king gud baron von nerdstein ill just go ahead and drive my expensive sports car 2 work while u can take ur fugin imaginary money 2 the imaginary bank then buy an imaginary old banger XD VROOM VROOM SO MUCH FAN!!!! jesus Hector christ sumtimes i wonder how u ppl come up with this sh!t

>>9280227
I get bored without internet and books. I've tried. I also appreciate shelter, health care and good food.

>>9280241

>I've realized something important lately. We're not the only ones who don't want to work

How sheltered do you have to be to consider this a revelation? Even my dad who was on the surface a workaholic always used to say things to me like "money is just paper, time is the most important thing in life" blah blah blah. Normalfags are annoying because they're normalfags with normalfag personalities, but /jp/ is mistaken in thinking their aversion to work is unique to special snowflake NEETs. Most people hate work apart from those with actual work ethic, drive and/or normalfag goals

>>9280227
I agree with you and I hope you're not excluding OBEs and astral projection

>>9280241
shut up prole

>>9280259
But everyone tries to deny that they hate their work.

>>9280271
What? No they don't.

>>9280259

The problem with normalfags is that they think things make them happy and that they need a good job.

Just go to any suburb in the entire world. These people work so hard for something that is completely unnecessary. They work so hard and for so many hours so they can have the nice sized house and the nice car, but why do you need those things? What is the difference between a big house and an apartment? Both are just places where you live, but one is ridiculously more expensive and requires a lot of work in order to afford.

Imagine how much more time the average normalfag could have for fun if they got a cheaper place, ditched their wife and kids, and sold all of their unnecessary luxuries.

>>9280289
You still need to work to even afford an apaato.

>>9280300

How much do you have to work though? Far less than whatever their old job was, so that means more time for fun.

>>9280289
People work because they know that it is necessary. If they work, they might as well not half-ass it. It's that simple. Extroverted people also get bored or distressed without a family.

who FREEGAN here

>>9280289

I know. That's why I said normalfags are annoying. The "live to work" attitude is like their life mantra and it's pathetic. But they life by it because of the reason you stated, they believe they need it to have a "complete" life. It's not because they love work itself. All most "normal" people ever go on about is how much they hate their job or their boss or whatever.

Also I don't want them to ever figure this out, because we actually really need them to keep things running whilst we take it easy.

>>9280303

>Extroverted people also get bored or distressed without a family.

That's something I'll never understand. Why don't they just make an imaginary family?

It would take maybe a solid 200 hours of focusing to create a fully formed imaginary wife that has a perfect personality, looks perfect to you in every way, and is completely superior to a real woman. Yet these people will spend countless hours pursuing women, getting their hearts crushed, spending thousands of dollars, and at some point after many years of searching and spending they will finally marry someone who is just adequate and nothing close to perfection.

200 hours for the perfect wife or years and years for a mediocre wife who will probably leave you? It is complete insanity that these normalfags pick option two.

>>9280305
The world has changed quickly. This modern era of consumption is new. If the western world continues to prosper, people will surely start valuing time quite soon.

>>9280289
it's funny how I knew all these things ever since elementary school
but other people didn't

I've always been wondering so so so hard why they don't understand such an obvious things
I tried to understand them
I really did
what motivates them
what makes them do all these thing


I've been trying to think like them for a long time
I tried to approach the problem from different angles
that's why I didn't drop out from high school
"maybe there is something I don't see" I've been thinking
"maybe there is something I'm missing?" I've been thinking

I wanted to know how do they think. what is their thought process.
I almost reached the bottom. I almost became like them. And then, almost at the bottom..I finally saw the truth.
and the truth is that..these people..DON'T THINK AT ALL
they don't consider anything. they don't think about anything. they just go in the direction every one else is going.
once I saw that I bounced off the bottom and I will never, ever go there again

>>9280333
I don't see why you need a family, imaginary or otherwise. Fugging normals really just want it because it's the status quo.

Anyone else sit around all day drinking energy drinks and posting on 4chan?

>>9280356
i only shitpost though?

>>9280333
>>9280340
Most people enjoy interacting with other people just for the sake of it. It sounds like a small difference but it's not.

so many edgy teenagers in this thread. hurts to read.

>>9280369
yeah bro, everyone who thinks different is an edgy teen

>>9280369
typical normie reaction to any view against the normie lifestyle

>>9280360
I was talking about unnecessary school and work

interaction is fun if it's fun

>>9280369
If you were over 20 you wouldn't give a shit. I know because I don't.

>>9280376
If you don't fit in you peer group, interaction becomes troublesome if not impossible.

>>9280227

>The world can give you almost nothing that you can't give yourself and what they can give you is an inferior version of what your mind would have produced.

This reminds me of a lucid dream that I once had.

I've always wanted to visit the forest since I think it looks beautiful. I had a lucid dream about going to the forest and it was amazing. Everything smelled so amazing and fresh, I had adventures with a deer, rode a bear through the hills, swam in the streams, and did everything that I always imagined about the forest. It was amazing and I was so happy when I had that dream.

About a year after this I had an opportunity to go to a real forest and I jumped at the chance to do this. Flying insects were every where, constantly buzzing around my head and biting me, I saw a dead animal carcass that smelled horrible, I didn't see a single living animal that wasn't an insect that was trying to bite me or a bird, and the ground was so uncomfortable that I couldn't sleep for even a few minutes.

Reality sucks.

>>9280377
hah that's precisely it!
kids have it so tough..they do so many painful things just to be "mature"
adults are already mature whether they like it or not so they can simply do what they want and enjoy their lifetimes

>>9280340
You sound autistic. I don't mean that as an insult, I mean you sound very autistic.

I remember back in the day how my social studies teacher tried to brainwash us all to buy into that "YOU DO NOT WORK FOR MONEY BUT TO FEEL FULFILLED" mindset.

No one really believed him.

>>9280385
that's why I said "interaction is fun IF it's fun". If it's not..well...there goes my entire high-school.
I used to think something is wrong with me, or that I am very introverted..but it turns out that I was simply too different from my environment, hat's why interaction was so painful and forced.

>>9280389
why so? well, I've never been diagnosed so...

I wish I could understand why people are so eager to work. I remember everyone in my graduating class was so excited about either getting a job or going to college.

What is there to be excited about? You may be leaching, but life is perfect when you live with your parents. You have a computer, unlimited free time, a place to sleep, and food. It is everything you could possibly want to feel happy and life is perfect.

What incentive does a job offer me though? It's just like saying, "You have lived a wonderful life up until this point, but now I'm going to take it all away from you and you will have to work very hard just to maintain the same level of happiness that you have enjoyed for all this time."

Why were people excited about this? It's such a horrible and depressing thought and yet I saw dozens of people charge into college or the workforce as if they had been waiting their entire life to do this.

>>9280434
They were happy because if you don't find a job while you're young you'll have a shitty hard time finding it when you're old.

>>9280451

Why would it make them happy though? I could see why it would make them slightly less depressed, but no matter how you look at it the transition from childhood to adulthood is a clear and drastic downgrade in quality of life.

The peak of happiness in your entire life is the time when you live with your parents. Unlimited possibilities, unlimited free time, and even if you could get a job that would provide you with a computer, a place to live, and food then you would be working so much that your free time wouldn't even compare to the amount of free time you had before you started working.

There's just no way to look at it that isn't depressing.

>>9280389
I wouldn't say that. I used to think exactly like him until I just read up about this shit. To be honest, I didn't meet particularly interesting people at all before university. Sure, they were always around but I never talked to them.

>>9280434
You need to be a really big cunt/autist to be able to stand the shame of still living with your parents.

Going to school was supposed to be fun. It was just annoying.
Hanging out with "friends" was supposed to be fun. It was just annoying.
Learning to drive was supposed to be fun. It was just annoying.
Driving was supposed to be fun. It's just annoying.
Going to parties was supposed to be fun. It was just annoying.
Going to college was supposed to be fun. It was just annoying.
Getting a job is supposed to be fun. I already know how I would actually feel about it, so I'm not even going to bother this time.

Very few things that are fun for normals are fun for me. I just want to live in solitude forever, enjoying the short amount of time I have. 60-80 years isn't shit, and yet society expects me to waste time making myself miserable for some pieces of paper?

>>9280465

>the shame

What's there to be ashamed of? I can maybe understand why you would feel guilty about living with your parents, but why shame?

I've seen people say this before, but I've never understood it. Imagine walking down the street and there's some guy with his leg crushed inside of a bear trap, as you walk by he laughs at you and mocks you for how you're over 18 years old and you still haven't crushed your leg in a bear trap. Does this make any sense?

It's basically the same exact thing. They're suffering because they have to work, their quality of life is lower than mine because they have less free time, and they attempt to mock me for this? It's a little ridiculous.

>>9280463
Of course being a manchild is better, I never said that.
You WILL have to live with alone eventually, you WILL eventually find a job, and you'd rather make that drastic transition you mentioned a more gradual one by leaving and earning independence bit by bit.

Which is why you find an internship while studying in college and working hard. Because life is a bitch.
I intend on never marrying, to save money, too bad because I wish I had children and society will forever look down on me as a creep.

Become a homeless person. If you're lucky you'll get interviewed one day and some guys in youtube comments will circlejerk over how DEEP the stuff you're saying is.

>>9280487
YOU'RE A FUCKING AUTISTIC LEECH WHO TALKS TO FUMOS FANTASIZES ABOUT BEING A GIRL WHILE MASTURBATING TO SHOTA TRAPS AND PLAYING OLD VIDEOGAMES ABOUT LITTLE GIRLS

YOU'RE A FAILURE ON EVERY LEVEL JUST FOR POSTING ON JP
I mean I love you guys but can you at least try to be self aware?

>>9280463
My parents were cold, strict and abusive so I was very happy to get away from them. This is much better.

>>9280489

>while studying in college and working hard

Why though? I understand that at some point I will be forced to get a job when I can no longer leach off my parents, but isn't college just overkill? I don't want the debt and I don't want the time-consuming career.

Doesn't it make more sense to find a job that pays very little but doesn't require a lot of hard work and then live very simply? College and careers seems like the kind of thing a normalfag who wants a house and family would be attracted to.

>>9279706

I fucking love not having to answer that fucking question ever again.

After 4 fucking years of effort I have managed to get a degree without owing a fucking cent to anyone ( I don`t live in america BTW), I have got an stable, easy, enjoyable job that gives me enough money to pay the rent of my own aparment and the little expenses I have, I don`t have make a lot of socialization, I barely pay any taxes and I don`t have to give any explanations to anyone or meet anyones expectations. I live for myself and only for myself.

>>9280509
Tell us your secret. Where are you from btw?

>>9280499
why do you shitpost?

>>9280506
Go to community college, I heard eletricians and plumbers are well paying jobs, but probably will take years until you get competent anyway. Either way you're fucked and you'll have to work hard.

>>9280499
Please try to make quality posts.

>>9280516
I was projecting not shitposting.
Sorry I didn't mean to put jp down I like it in here.

>>9280527
> put jp down
don't worry, you're the one who made a fool of himself

>>9280499
Not him, but I don't see why being a failure even matters. We all die sooner or later, just take it easy and enjoy the time you have. I don't get why the opinions of others should even matter. The whole milky way galaxy itself is nothing in comparison to the entirety of the known universe. We're nothing, and aspiring to be something, to prove your worth to others, is just a waste of time. Just take it easy.

>>9280499

>YOU'RE A FAILURE ON EVERY LEVEL

See, this is the problem. What makes someone a failure? Is it just someone who behaves in a way that deviates from the norm? That doesn't make a lot of sense.

Being a failure only makes sense when applied to people who are unhappy with their life because they're failing by living a life that they don't enjoy. It can't just be something that is applied to anyone who doesn't meet up to the status quo because you could meet up to that and still be very unhappy and yet you would be considered successful? Makes no sense.

You can only be a failure if you're unhappy. NEETs are the opposite of failures and their life only degrades in quality and they only start to become failures once they seek an education or a career because both of these things bring unhappiness.

>>9280534
>>9280546
I know, I apologize. I like being a loser.
Still, leeching off your parents and doing all this creepy shit we do will be obviously frowned upon

>>9280549
Don't you have empathy for your parents, for leeching off their hard work? They once had high hopes for you, they also failed in a way.

>>9280551
>doing all this creepy shit we do will be obviously frowned upon
live for yourself, anon. people will always judge you, even /jp/

>>9280558
The only thing he's disputing is shame. He gave you guilt.

Stop moving the goalposts normie.

>>9280464
Yeah, except why the hell are you in university?

>>9280551
Well you're only a loser if you're aspiring towards social norms

And why does being frowned upon even matter

>>9280509

My state payed a third of my college, I managed to pay the rest by myself because college is ridiculously cheap here (plus my degree is valid in te US). My income is so low that I don`t have to pay most taxes.

Sometimes rampant populism is such a wonderful thing.

>>9280565
I've been a neet for 4 years and feel horrible, if that makes me a normalfag so be it.

It matters a bit to me because I once had nerd friends whom I played videogames with, so I was once relatively normal if it wasn't for my addiction to loli.

>>9280558
not him, but my parents love me and they understand i'm happier this way. their only concern is that the day they die i'll be completely helpless

That's the plan.

>>9280558

>Don't you have empathy for your parents, for leeching off their hard work?

Nope, don't see why I should.

Should poor people feel guilty for the donations that they get from wealthy people? I don't feel guilty for receiving a gift and since I'm not putting a gun to my parent's head and telling them to pay for me then I just consider it as a gift from them.

If they no longer wanted to give me money to be a NEET then I would be unable to be a NEET and I would have to get a job, but until that point I see no reason for why I shouldn't accept charity and enjoy my life.

hurr the normuls dun understand im so smurt.
you really think most adults dont understand that the whole world and materialism is just a big joke? they just run along with it because what else is there anyway.
not everyone can be content and happy with just sitting on their asses and talking about why normals cant just imagine their girlfriends and egodildos and shit.

im a neet loser and even i understand this.

you are probably just as ignorant and simple minded as the normals you ramble about.

>>9280587
There have always been two types of NEET. One seems genuinely happy and content living a life with a dim future and minimal social interactions.

The other is pretty much the opposite in that they long first and foremost for social interaction. Most everything in their life is governed by their desire for interaction. Following that they would like a promising future, which usually means worrying about entering schooling or training of some sort eventually in the future. Finally, they're discontent with the labels society has put on them and would like to change their lives for the "better".

Disgusting people, that second group. They really are the lowest of the low. Especially all the people here wanting to get a job, longing for friends outside and being depressed about their NEET lifestyle. Just die already if you are so sad about your NEET life.

>>9280558
>They once had high hopes for you
My parents didn't. Is that some kind of middle class cliché talk?

I feel like a burden, a dead weight, a useless slacker.
I'm ashamed for slowing my parents down and giving them so much trouble for 24 years

Don't try to make me feel like I shouldn't be ashamed I obviously have fucked with my old folks life, and they only did me good.

I don't see how this is not clear to you.

>>9280509
>got a degree
that's where you fail

>>9280593
I DON'T long for interactions, I just wish I had children.
OH EM GEE IM SO DISGUSTING BITE ME

>>9280596
it was all their choice, you fucking idiot

>>9280603
Hey buddy, I'm sure the kids on /r9k/ will sympathize with you

>tfw no gf so no kids

>>9280594
no, over ambitious parents happen more often then you think

>>9280607
Not really my mom is super religious and she didn't have access to contraceptives back then, and once you conceive a kid there's not much of a choice besides giving it away for adoption. Which would've been worse.

But whatever if you hate your mom that's like your problem dude

>>9280587

>you really think most adults dont understand that the whole world and materialism is just a big joke?

That doesn't make a lot of sense. If they understood that materialism was just a big joke then why would they put so much money into buying objects?

They must believe that happiness can only be acquired through the acquisition of objects and in that they are wrong. They wouldn't spend the money that they do or work as hard as they do if they thought otherwise.

It's not a matter of whether or not they're intelligent, it's just that they have been influenced by growing up in a culture which never told them about an alternative. The whole American dream for example is based around this endless chase towards an unattainable goal, constantly climbing the ranks of society and always thinking that the next step is better than where you are now. This idea that you become happy by constantly aspiring to be more and more wealthy, but the problem with this is that you never enjoy the present because you always think that tomorrow is going to be better and then at some point you just die.

Happiness exists right now. It's not something in the future or something that you gain from acquiring a certain object, it's just enjoying this moment that you are in right now. The smell of the fresh air, slowing down and savoring each breath of air as you inhale and exhale, the taste of food, the joy of browsing the internet or sitting in a comfortable chair. That's happiness and anyone can feel it at any time if they just slow down and pay attention to what they're doing right now.

Did you guys just shame someone into not being ashamed of being a NEET?

Sound like forcing your own views alright. Not everyone is as autistic as you.

>>9280623
>she didn't have access to contraceptives
So the choice would be not to fuck. Obviously her poor ability to think things through was genetic.

>>9280652
My god you're dense as a brick.

Not everyone is materialistic. Most religious people aren't, for one.

>>9280657
So what she did and I was born. For all I know my father could have raped her or gotten her drunk.

The fact is that it happened and I was born and it was her responsibility and she fucking lived it up.

>>9280652
You sound like a recluse hippie, except with lolicon videogames instead of drugs

>>9280657
You obviously hate your mother.
It's ok, dude. The internet still loves you.

>>9280659
>Abortation
If no abortion due to religion
>Her own fault
Tuff luck, bitchez.

>>9280663
Is that supposed to be bad?

>>9280663
but he's right? happiness is only up to you?

>>9280674
Yeah, that's why I'm depressed.
Tuff luck, guess what we'll have to find a job eventually because we're all alive and in tuff luck. Blaming your parents and making they pay for your internet is still douchebaggery.

see you in a McJob

>>9280659
>responsible
responsible person, your mother
keep loving her and hating yourself

>>9280689
I love her because she pays for my internet not some autistic tough guy on an image board.
You all asked why you should feel ashamed, I gave my reasons.

>>9280687
oh no, such a douchebag I am
i soooooooooo feel bad about myself
I don't want to be douche :( priest told me it's bad for my immortal soul :(

btw, I'm a girl.

Are we being raided by /v/ or something? There are 2-3 really bad posters around, and they don't give the impression of shitting on their own lawn.

>>9280707
Why do people always jump to the conclusion that we're being raided? Nobody gives a shit about /jp/.

>>9280705
Being a pedophile leech with crossdressing fantasies and imaginary friends who watches little girl cartoons is actually pretty bad.

>>9280698
>she gives me money! That's why I love her!

that's sad

>>9280713
She's a genuinely kind person, she just raised me to think I'm better than others, and now I'm too old but I know better.

Also I'm disgustingly ugly and dumb.

>>9280710
I'm also atheist, that's the worst
so going to hell now

>>9280698
>I love her because she pays for my internet
She pays your internet because she failed and it's her fault you are such a turbonerd.

>>9280658
Why is he dense? Religious people are practically nonexistent in my country. Why did you bring them up?

>>9280717
dunno about ugly,. but you sure seem dumb

>>9280720
Yep, you're shaming me. That's the point, it's shameful I'm such a turbonerd and a failure.

You answered the question!

I'm depressed, that's all.
Neet is not all denpa and bright colors

>>9280725
what question?
also, you seem to be thinking you're talking with the same anon, but there seem to be several people answering you, mummy-lover

I just want attention. I want to talk about why I'm such a failure. You're helping.

I'm a mummy lover? Welp, how else can you be a neet without your mom?

You talk about materialism but you keep downloading anime, videogames, vns, porn and music and you can't leave your computers for a single day.

We're all materialistic here.

The imagination is the source of all happiness.

Am I wrong?

Think about that "the chase is better than the catch" expression that many people use. What is it about the chase that is better than the catch? The happiness that comes from the chase is entirely based upon your imagination.

People who work with no hope of any reward are not happy, but people who do the same work and believe that a large reward will come at the end of this are very happy. What is the difference? The work itself obviously does not bring happiness otherwise both parties would be happy. It's the imagination that brings happiness to the second group. As they work their imagination is going wild with all of these thoughts and ideas about what their reward will be like and then they are almost always disappointed once they get their reward because reality failed to meet up to their idealized imagining.

Normal people do this all of the time, for example, dating and retirement are very common examples of this. Most people enjoy imagining what retirement will be like far more than when they are actually retired.

Even normalfags gain happiness through their imagination. This is just a fraction of what the imagination can do though. The happiness that comes from living in your imagination is far greater than the happiness achieved from spicing up the blandness of reality with your imagination.

>>9280756
Turn off you computer then and live with your imagination.

Your computers will break or turn obsolete, consumerism designed them to be depreciative. I'm sure you're aware of that.

What will you do then? Ask mommy for money.

You are materialistic.

>>9280756
bullshit. hope helps, but it can't do that much
what's shit is shit

>>9280752
The joke is on you, I read all day every day.

>>9280742
dad

>>9280776
VNs? Manga? Books? The Internet?

These cost money too.

>>9280761

The computer is a tool for expanding the imagination.

Think of legos for a moment. What you can build is dependent on how many bricks that you have and what types of bricks you have and in the same way the imagination is dependent upon your knowledge.

How can I dream about exploring the world in a plane if I don't know what a plane is? How can I imagine myself in an exciting kung-fu fight if I don't know what kung-fu fighting looks like? The internet expands your imagination by introducing you to new ideas and the more ideas you have the more fun you can have with your imagination.

You can live a great life just through your imagination, but it can be even more exciting with the internet.

>>9280781
clever
Still materialistic though.

>>9280782
then tell me, what is not materialistic in your opinion?

>>9280772
My computer turned obsolete five years ago. Unless they rewrite the HTML spec to be NP-complete, I'm golden.

>>9280792
Fuck off the computer is a product, you bought it, you are a consumer, you're no more materialistic than a normalfag.

Even then what about food, shelter, clothes, personal hygiene?
You're not completely free of the need of money.

>>9280792
for some time I just tl;dr your posts, and just read the replies to them

>>9280772
Don't be an ass. We're comparing minimal lives and spending thousands every month.

>>9280795
Living with my parents and leeching off their money makes me materialistic off their money.

I'm still attached to money.
Being a budhist monk may be only way to avoid money.

>>9280806
Still needs money, also minimal lives I believe you mean minimum wage.
Guess what, still hard work, if you don't work as much as your colleagues and kiss your bosses ass, you're fired.

>>9280815
he didn't mean minimal wage

>>9280820
I never said I wasn't attached, it's just the other autistic retard with the suwako picture and tl;dr posts who did,

>>9280808
according to your logic, Buddhist monks are materialistic, too!
in fact, we all draw air. that makes us so fucking materialistic
like a normalfags!

>>9280803
You can imagine all those things. For example, you can trick your brain into thinking it just ate a Big Mac if you imagine yourself eating one hard enough.

>>9280773

>hope helps, but it can't do that much

That's where you're wrong though. Hope does exactly as much as you think it will do. Self-delusion is the most powerful tool that we have and you can use it to completely transform your life. Just look at religious people. They are extremely happy because they completely believe in something that has no evidence whatsoever. It's all faith, hope, and imagination and through these simple things people have visions, believe that they have communicated with god, and all sorts of incredible things that make them very happy.

If you believe that your life is shit and that it's never going to get any better then your imagination isn't going to make you think otherwise. You have to give in to self-delusion and allow yourself to be swept away with fantasies, delusions, dreams, and all sorts of fun stuff that makes today a lot more fun than it should be.

I work at Wal-Mart for 5 days out of the week for about 5 hours on average, take three college classes a semester with summers included, and spend all of my free time (which is around 7 hours a day) masturbating, playing video games, watching anime, and coming here.

I'm not doing nothing ;__;

>>9280825
How do you plan on living a minimal live without money?

A minimum wage job is the very minimum you can achieve.

Get real, cut the hipster fag and start talking objectively. What is a minimal life besides leeching your parents? That's not sustainable

>>9280831
if you work, why collage?

>>9280815
Since you obviously have a block of wood in your anus I must mention that I'm currently being paid by the government for being a student. What are you even trying to say?

>>9280841
I'm trying to say I'm depressed I'm not going to afford touhou forever.

>>9280841
I can't into autism bucks. I don't live in a liberal country.

I'm trying to say I'm going to have to work eventually

>>9280838
lol looks like its u who needs a ``collage'' education bro LOL

I don't understand where this NEET pride shit came from. Apparently all the retards took the charts like this seriously and didn't realize they were made in jest.

It's just like that copypasta about a community that revolves around being idiotic will soon be full of actual idiots. Being a retarded loser isn't something to brag about, it's something to post about to make other people feel better than you and therefore themselves. It's why people like coming to 4chan; there's always a bigger loser to make you feel better about yourself.

I forgot what my point was but I'm pretty sure it was a good one.

>>9280841
I'm trying to say I have ZERO preparation for the real world, ZERO work in my curriculum, no degree, and will have to turn independent soon.

I hope I return here one day with a job and can pretend I'm neet again with you guys.

>>9280834
there are many alternative ways to get money/items/food/accommodation/etc
you really don't need to work

>>9280866
Tell me, remember I can't into autism bucks because I dropped out of college.

>>9280831
Do you live at home?

>>9280803

>You're not completely free of the need of money.

Who said that we're completely free of the need for money? These things are obvious. Of course you need food and shelter, you can't imagine a piece of bread, eat it, and expect to survive.

This whole conversation is about happiness though. The amount of money that you need is based upon how much you rely on objects for happiness. If you rely on less objects then that means you need less money to sustain your lifestyle and that also means that you don't need as demanding of a job as you would have needed if you relied completely on objects for your happiness.

At some point in our life we will all have to have some source of income to keep us alive, but how time consuming and how grueling that job is will be dependent on how much money you need and if you allow your imagination to be the source of most of your happiness then you need very little money.

>>9280854
what charts?
anyway, you're broken and stop posting

>>9280663
nice, insults

>>9280845
???
change country?

>>9280881
Your computer and high speed connection ARE the source of all your happiness. btw I'm a girl.

It's just that night time jp is comming and you tend to improve at night. I'm just depressed because I can't sleep and regretting dropping out now. yeah yeah scam I know.

>>9280908
jp will turn better now, I hope I won't come in 30 seconds.

I'll get happy in a few moments. : )

>>9280908
are you some sort of spambot?

>>9280891
Charts like the graph I posted.

Anyways, your mom is coming over to my place tonight.

>>9280854
I come to 4chan to take it easy. You sound like a nasty person.

Enough shitposting, I'll go back to my sarcastic self.

You guys are living unsustainable lives, just remember that. I recommend you start working no matter how much it might sucks, it'll be worse if you start later.

Ant and grasshopper, etc

>>9280803
I don't enjoy my computer, i enjoy the thing is see on the internet

>>9280908

>Your computer and high speed connection ARE the source of all your happiness

Maybe it's the source of all your happiness, but it's not the source of mine. I enjoy the internet and the computer, but I enjoy my imagination much more.

What is posting on /jp/ in comparison to a lucid dream? One is text on a screen and the other is a world of endless possibilities where you can do whatever you want. /jp/ and the internet is enjoyable, but my imagination provides the bulk of my happiness.

YURU YURI IN HOW MANY HOURS?
WHERE IS THAT COUNTDOWN I NEED HAPPINESS

>>9280931
You might want to wait until it airs first.

>>9280927
I need to watch second season but I don't feel motivated enough to marathon it, what to do?

>>9280927
It's already out dude.

tl;dr lucid dreaming autistic I hope you die.
Commit sudoku, clear all squares then come back here.

>>9280921
At least I'm not a fucking nerd you assblaster.

My buddy told me that one in geology class today.

>>9280854
you call us idiots and losers but you give no reasons.

here comes the strawman

>>9280933
I mean first season damn.

hehe it's so easy to spot the newcomers.

>>9280938
You think youre though uh ?

>>9280954
Found one.

>>9280838
Because I want a better job obviously.

>>9280955
where?! let's poke him with a stick!

>>9280923

>You guys are living unsustainable lives

Every life is unsustainable though. We're all going to die, some of us may die tomorrow and some of us may die in 40 years from now, but every life is short and when it's over then that's it.

If I followed what you're saying then I would have a source of income, but I would be throwing away the opportunity to live at least another year or two in what is essentially complete bliss. I would have money and I would now be living a more independent life than I was before, but I would be unhappy and the possibility of death looms over me just as much as it always has.

Thinking so far ahead isn't a good idea. It's best to enjoy each day as it comes to you and only change when you need to. If you constantly plan for tomorrow then how can you enjoy today and if you never enjoy the day then what's the point in living at all?

>>9280941
leech, pedophile, crossdresser, autist, hipster, pirate, addicted to games and the internet, disgusting sexual deviant, closet homo, hates his mom and blames her for being alive EVEN THOUGH SHE FUCKING RAISED THE DAMN BASTARD she should have aborted you with a coat hanger

And those are normalfag reasons for being a loser, I feel bad for them, you should too, don't think you will though. I fuqd ur 2hu

>>9280941
I don't need to give reasons, this thread is more than enough.

There's people in here who genuinely think the majority of normalfags enjoy work and don't complain about it. That's clinical retardation right there.

>>9280967
Ant and grasshopper dude

I wish I was the ant.

>>9280961
I'll smoke your ass like grass.

I will get own a cat rather than children.

There I solved my depression, now on to my erectile dysfunction

>>9280977
-the grasshopper had fun then died
-the ant didn't have fun then died

both chose their lifestyle and enjoyed it.
i'm happy for them

We need to hurry up and invent virtual reality or nanobots or genetic modification or something.

Human beings weren't meant to be born into cities, sitting in a chair doing work in front of a bright light for 9 hours a day, then going home and getting way less than the required amount of sleep.

The "average human" was out running and chasing things and eating them, like a boss. Now imagine you took him and dumped him in the middle of Chicago. That's basically what civilization has done to us, and we can't do shit about it. Yet.

>>9280987
The japanese can balance the two.

I'm kinda glad pirating is illegal now, will weed out all the NEETs

We've been through this before, there are plenty of us ex-NEETs here who have cubicle jobs and are unhappy as fuck.

>>9280994
>erectile dysfunction
that sounds lame. how old are you?

>>9280987
the japanese enjoy the same sick fuck you do, are talented, and manage to still hold jobs and raise families.

Just look at Zun. I sound weeaboo but think about it.

>>9280974
>I don't need to give reasons, this thread is more than enough.
Yes you need. It's impossible to know which things you mean if you say it like that.
>That's clinical retardation right there.
No it's not.

>>9281005
25 by november, happens if you don't exercise, smoke weed and fap too much.

>>9280963
you work 5 hours 5 days a week

define "better" in your situation

>>9281021
One that pays the rent.

>>9281009
I'm far too tired to wrack my brain for all the reasons /jp/ is full of retards. Just take my word for it.

>>9280977

I would rather be the grasshopper though. Look at the fable for a moment and think about who really got the most out of their life.

The ant lives longer because he always worked hard and he prepared for winter, but what joy does the ant have? He works and he dies. He survives longer than the grasshopper because he prepared, but the grasshopper enjoyed every moment of his life up until his death.

It's really just a question of do you value survival over happiness or do you value happiness over survival? Personally I think that happiness is most important because what's the point of surviving if you're not happy? I'd rather be dead than prolong a life of constant work and suffering.

I would do more if someone would hire me. :<

>>9281012
You get a saturday and sunday free!
I just want that. And that people don't act weirded out around me while in work, but I'm into r9k zone right now

>>9281005
Not him, but a lot of people here (myself included) have troubles with erections and fapping and whatnot, due to depression or anti-depression medication. SSRIs were linked to sexual dysfunction and now suddenly everyone on prozac is quickly discovering they can't get a hard on.

I hope it's all a psychological thing. Like I'm unconsciously panicking when I can really masturbate any time I like. Please be the case.

>>9280983
ｙｏｕ　ｃａｍｅ　ｔｏ　ｔｈｅ　ｗｒｏｎｇ　ｎｅｉｇｈｂｏｕｒｈｏｏ

ｄ　ｍｏｔｈｅｒｆｕｃｋｅｒ

>>9281035
No, this is Chinatown.

>>9281024
I 100% sure you're a retard. you'll just have to take my word for it
j/k

>>9281008


>they like same things I do
too bad I thought I'm original :(
>are talented
too bad, I thought I 'm special for being talented :(
>have jobs and families
I feel bad for them :(

damn you just ruined my mood

>>9281000
>>9281008

>The Japanese

Really? I don't think there's a single country that could have been a worse example of this. Salarymen are notoriously depressed and suicidal.

Their culture is so obsessed with hard work that you can even see it in immigrants who don't even live in Japan anymore. They work so hard and they're so stressed that I'm surprised every Asian college student doesn't have gray hair from the pressure their parents put them through.

>>9281045
You might not get it, but I have nieces and being around them feels amazing, in a non-sexual way.

Don't even say 3DPD.
Also drawing your own porn would be better than lucid dreaming hipster bulshit in my opinion.

You guys know even if you do start working finding a 3D wife is basically impossible these days unless you're very successful right?

Seriously. Read this book. One of the effects of women entering the workforce has been outright economic competition between men and women. This means that a woman regards whatever she earns as the lowest baseline standard for social acceptability when it comes to dating her. Women basically go for two types of men these days for serious things: 1) Really fucking rich men, 2) Really thuggish, "masculine" men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENGwa7W5-zc

>>9281046
WOW.

What the *FUCK* dude?

Even for a joke that is going WAY too far.

>>9281068

I'll just make an imaginary girlfriend.

>>9281073
i'm sorry...

>>9281068
I've read it, along with all MRA crap. That one is good though, but MRAs sound exactly like feminists just gayer.

I'll just get a cat for company and lots of lube and pills for fapping.

>The Japanese

>>9281063

>>9281080
You can shove your sorries in a s -OOF!

>>9281068
Getting rid of marriage to save money, however, IS the best thing to come out of NEETdom.

>>9281091
MRAs are gay, I agree. Especially PUA types.

Donovan's not really like that though, as he is quite literally gay. He understands that not all men want to GO OUT AND FUCK BITCHES HURRR ROISSYSPHERE so his audience for The Way of Men was, in part at least, people like '/jp/. Essentially people who have no hope of finding a wife in this day and age because of the massive expectations placed on men and high standards women have.

>the suffering of working

HELP I HAVE DONE IT AGAIN
I HAVE BEEN HERE MANY TIMES BEFORE
HURT MYSELF AGAIN TODAY
AND THE WORST PART IS THERE'S NO ONE ELSE TO BLAAAAME

BE MY FRIEND
HOLD ME, WRAP ME UP
UNFOLD ME
I AM SMALL
I'M NEEDY
HOLD ME UP
AND BREATHE ME

It starts with one thing
I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind
I designed this rhyme
To explain in due time
All I know
Time is a valuable thing
Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings
Watch it count down to the end of the day
The clock ticks life away

It's so unreal
Didn't look out below
Watch the time go right out the window
Trying to hold on, but you didn't even know
Wasted it all just to watch you go
I kept everything inside
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me
Will eventually be a memory of a time when

I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn't even matter

>>9281112
so deep~

I tried being a normalfag and dating a girl. I dated her for three years. She told me she loved me, both her and I thought we'd get married.

Guess what, her father tells her that I don't make enough money and they she needs to find someone who makes more money. She agrees, dumps me and literally cuts off all contact with me.

FUCK the real world.

>>9281075

Why doesn't everyone do this? It makes perfect sense.

Don't want to get a real women? Hate how real women act? Make one inside of your mind that is perfect!

Problem completely solved.

Fags, I still want little girls of my own.
I heard gay adoptions were all the rage now, we should marry each other and adopt a brown girl from africa.

I sit and wait.
Does a Touhou
Contemplate my fate?
And do they know
The places where we go
When we´re gray and old?
´cos I have been told
That salvation
Lets their wings unfold.
So when I’m lying in my bed
Thoughts running through my head
And I feel that love is dead
I’m loving Touhous instead.

And through it all she offers me protection
A lot of love and affection
Whether I’m right or wrong
And down the waterfall
Wherever it may take me
I know that life won't break me
When I come to call - she won't forsake me.
I’m loving Touhous instead

When I’m feeling weak
And my pain walks down a one way street
I look above
And I know that I'll always be blessed with love
And as the feeling grows
She breathes flesh to my bones
And when love is dead

I’m loving Touhous instead.

>>9281068
Does it really matter? You could just find a starving liberal arts student if it's like that. Women having some economic power is a good way to prevent the family hells. Broken war veterans terrorizing their families was a real societal problem not too long ago.

You can tell by the way she walks that she's my touhou. You can tell by the way she talks she rules the world. You can see in her eyes no one is her chain. She's my touhou - my supertouhou.

And then she'd say : "It's okay. I got lost on the way, but I'm a supertouhou, and supertouhous don't cry." And then she'd say: "It's alright, I got home late last night, but I'm a supertouhou, and supertouhous just fly. And then she'd say that nothing can go wrong. When you're a touhou, what can go wrong? And then she'd laugh the nighttime into day, pushing her fear further along.

And then she'd shout down the line, tell me she's got no more time. 'cause she's a supertouhou, and supertouhous don't hide. And then she'd scream in my face, tell me to leave - leave this place - 'cause she's a supertouhou, and supertouhous just fly. Yes, she's a supertouhou. She's sewing seeds, she's burning trees. She's a supertouhou - my supertouhou.

If you could stay here for just
a little bit, a little while, a little bit with me
you're what makes me,
and if god could keep you with me
I'd trade just about anything

You're what makes me want to change things
I would die just to live and yet we all live to die
You're what makes me want to change,
you will not die
you will not die
you will not die
you will not die

If you could stay here for just
a little bit, a little while, a little bit with me
you're what makes me,
and if god could keep you with me
I'd trade just about anything

I'd trade anything...

Take a step further back to where you belong
Take a look at your life what have you become

I never had the chance to explain myself
I never had the chance to apologize
I never had the chance to explain myself
I never had...

You will not die
You will not die
You will not die
You will not...

>>9281136
I was called ultra autistic for going to high-school just to see how normalfags are

what are you?

Cut my life into pieces
This is my last resort, suffocation, no breathing
Don't give a fuck if I cut my arms bleeding
This is my last resort,

Cut my life into pieces
I've reached my last resort, suffocation, no breathing
Don't give a fuck if I cut my arms bleeding
Do you even care if I die bleeding?
Would it be wrong, would it be right?
If I took my life tonight,
Chances are that I might
Mutilation out of sight
and I'm contemplating suicide

'Cause I'm losing my sight, losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Losing my sight, losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine

I never realized I was spread too thin
'Til it was too late and I was empty within
Hungry, feeding on chaos and living in sin
Downward spiral, where do I begin?
It all started when I lost my mother
No love for myself and no love for another
Searching to find a love upon a higher level
Finding nothing but questions and devils

'Cause I'm losing my sight, losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Losing my sight, losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Nothing's alright, nothing is fine

I'm running and I'm crying
I'm crying [x4]
I can't go on living this way

Does anyone else on /jp/ do hiking?

Being out in nature is life affirming, way more life affirming than work, trust me.

>>9281021
I get just a little more than minimum wage and at my job I get treated like shit. I want to get a job that pulls in 25/30 per hour so I can live by myself AND be able to take part in my hobbies as much as I want.

stop posting lyrics.

Let's go

With blood shot eyes I watch you sleeping
The warmth I feel beside me is slowly fading
Would she hear me if I called her name?
Would she hold me if she knew my shame?

There's always something different going wrong
The path I walk is in the wrong direction
There's always someone fucking hanging on
Can anybody help me make things better?

Your tears don't fall, they crash around me
Her conscious calls, the guilty to come home
Your tears don't fall, they crash around me
Her conscious calls, the guilty to come home

The moments die, I hear no screaming
The visions left inside me are slowly fading
Would she hear me if I called her name?
Would she hold me if she knew my shame?

There's always something different going wrong
The path I walk is in the wrong direction
There's always someone fucking hanging on
Can anybody help me make things better?
Your tears don't fall, they crash around me
Her conscious calls, the guilty to come home
Your tears don't fall, they crash around me
Her conscious calls, the guilty to come home

Ow yeah

This battered room I've seen before
The broken bones they heal no more, no more
With my last breath I'm choking
Will this ever end? I'm hoping
My world is over one more time

Once more I'll say goodbye to you
Things happen but we don't really know why
If it's supposed to be like this
Why do most of us ignore the chance to miss?
Oh, yeah

Torn apart at the seams of my dreams turn to tears
I'm not feelin' this situation
Run away try to find that safe place you can hide
It's the best place to be when you're feeling like

Me
(Me)
Yeah
(Yeah)
All these things I hate revolve around

Me
(Me)
Yeah
(Yeah)
Just back off before I snap

Once more you tell those lies to me
Why can't you just be straight up with honesty?
(Honesty)
When you say those things in my ear
Why do you always tell me what you wanna hear?
(Wanna hear)
Oh yeah
(Yeah)

Wear your heart on your sleeve, make things hard to believe
I'm not feelin' this situation
Run away try to find that safe place you can hide
It's the best place to be when you're feeling like

>>9281147
>You could just find a starving liberal arts student if it's like that

No you couldn't, because women actually expect you to earn significantly more than them. Whatever they earn is just the baseline standard.

And even liberal arts majors can get a decent entry level job if they know where to look.

He posts the shit as a meditation ♪
And those he trolls never suspect ♫
He doesn't post for the 2hus he wins ♪
He doesn't post for respect ♫
He posts the shit to find the answer ♪
The sacred geometry of trips ♫
The hidden law of a probable shitpost ♪
The homu lead a dance ♫

I know that the spades are the swords of a 2hu ♪
I know that the clubs are weapons of NEETs ♫
I know that diamonds mean money for Saten ♪
But that's not the shape of my shit ♫

He may play the Ran of diamonds ♪
He may lay the Chen of spades ♫
He may conceal a shit in his hand ♪
While the memory of it fades ♫

And if I told you that I trolled you ♪
You'd maybe think there's something wrong ♫
I'm not a man of too many shitposts ♪
The shit I post is one ♫

>>9281170
I do, I also go exploring the city at night (and early morning).
walking down the streets of the dangerous zones is so exciting

>>9281173
that's what normalfags think
you are no different then them

If I had to
I would put myself right beside you
So let me ask
Would you like that?
Would you like that?

And I don't mind
If you say this love is the last time
So now I'll ask
Do you like that?
Do you like that?

No!

Something's getting in the way.
Something's just about to break.
I will try to find my place in the diary of Jane.
So tell me how it should be.

Try to find out what makes you tick.
As I lie down
Sore and sick.
Do you like that?
Do you like that?

There's a fine line between love and hate.
And I don't mind.
Just let me say that
I like that
I like that

Something's getting in the way.
Something's just about to break.
I will try to find my place in the diary of Jane.
As I burn another page,
As I look the other way.
I still try to find my place in the diary of Jane.
So tell me how it should be.

Desperate, I will crawl
Waiting for so long
No love, there is no love.
Die for anyone
What have I become?

Something's getting in the way.
Something's just about to break.
I will try to find my place in the diary of Jane.
As I burn another page,
As I look the other way.
I still try to find my place in the diary of Jane.

>>9281068
is it one of these books that suggest that being a man is being a protector and whatnot?

>>9281068
I don't really care. If I ever get a job it'll be because I'm no longer able to be a NEET.

>>9281207
Nah, it's more nuanced than that. It's about why so many modern men are the way they are and why women are bitches and whores.

I will break into your thoughts
With what's written on my heart
I will break, break

I'm so sick,
Infected with where I live
Let me live without this
Empty bliss,
Selfishness
I'm so sick
I'm so sick

If you want more of this
We can push out, sell out, die out
So you'll shut up
And stay sleeping
With my screaming in your itching ears

I'm so sick,
Infected with where I live
Let me live without this
Empty bliss,
Selfishness
I'm so sick
I'm so sick

Hear it, I'm screaming it
You're heeding to it now

Hear it! I'm screaming it!
You tremble at this sound

You sink into my clothes
And this invasion
Makes me feel
Worthless, hopeless, sick

I'm so sick,
Infected with where I live
Let me live without this
Empty bliss,
Selfishness
I'm so sick
I'm so sick

I'm so sick
Infected with where I live
Let me live without this
Empty bliss, selfishness
I'm so
I'm so sick
I'm so
I'm so sick

Telling Layla's story spoken
'Bout how all her bones are broken
Hammers fall on all the pieces
Two months in the cover creases

Fully alive
More than most
Ready to smile and love life
Fully alive and she knows
How to believe in futures

All my complaints shrink to nothing
I'm ashamed of all my somethings
She's glad for one day of comfort
Only because she has suffered

Fully alive
More than most
Ready to smile and love life
Fully alive and she knows
How to believe in futures

Fully alive
More than most
Ready to smile and love life
Fully alive and she knows
How to believe in futures

Fully alive
More than most
Ready to smile and love life
Fully alive and she knows
How to believe in futures

Sometimes life seems too quiet
Into paralyzing silence
Like the moonless dark
Meant to make me strong

Familiar breath of my old lies
Changed the color in my eyes
Soon he will perforate the fabric of the peaceful by and by

Sorrow lasts through this night
I'll take this piece of you
And hope for all eternity
For just one second I felt whole
As you flew right through me

Left alone with only reflections of the memory
To face the ugly girl that's smothering me
Sitting closer than my pain
He knew each tear before it came
Soon He will perforate the fabric of the peaceful by and by

Sorrow last through this night
I'll take this piece of You
And hope for all eternity
For just one second I felt whole
As You flew right through me

And we kiss each other one more time
And sing this lie that's halfway mine
The sword is slicing through the question
So I won't be fooled by his angel light

Sorrow lasts through this night
I'll take this piece of you
And hope for all eternity
For just one second I felt whole
As you flew right through me
And up into the stars

Joy will come

My hands are searching for you
My arms are outstretched towards you
I feel you on my fingertips
My tongue dances behind my lips for you

This fire rising through my being
Burning I'm not used to seeing you

I'm alive, I'm alive

I can feel you all around me
Thickening the air I'm breathing
Holding on to what I'm feeling
Savoring this heart that's healing

My hands float up above me
And you whisper you love me
And I begin to fade
Into our secret place

The music makes me sway
The angels singing say we are alone with you
I am alone and they are too with you

I'm alive
I'm alive

I can feel you all around me
Thickening the air I'm breathing
Holding on to what I'm feeling
Savoring this heart that's healing

So I cry
(Holy)
The light is white
(Holy)
And I see you

I'm alive
I'm alive
I'm alive

And I can feel you all around me
Thickening the air I'm breathing
Holding on to what I'm feeling
Savoring this heart that's healing

Take my hand
I give it to you
Now you own me
All I am
You said you would never leave me
I believe you
I believe

I can feel you all around me
Thickening the air I'm breathing
Holding on to what I'm feeling
Savoring this heart that's healed

The notes emoticon is a really nice touch

When I said good morning
I was lying
I was truly thinking of
How I might quit waking up

He pointed out how selfish
It would be to kill myself
So I keep waking up

It feels so much like falling
Dying while I wait to die
The fear of something or nothing
Lonely empty lie

I don't want to be here, lying
I don't want to be selfish anymore
I want so much to change
Learning your love everyday
There's still so much to know

You grip my wrists
I let go

It feels so much like falling
Separated from the fear
Aware of a destination far away from here

It feels so much like falling
Separated from the fear
Aware of a destination far away from here
Far away from here

Unified diversity
Functioning as one body
Every part encouraged by the other
No one independent of another
You're irreplaceable, indispensable
You're incredible, incredible

[Chorus:]
Beautiful bride
Body of Christ
One flesh abiding
Strong and unifying
Fighting ends in forgiveness
Unite and fight all division
Beautiful bride

Strengthen your arms now
Train your fingers for battle
Urgency's here now
Train your fingers for battle
Fighting this violence
With your feet wrapped in peace
Sad tears and silence
Now screams of joy
Victory

[Chorus:]
Beautiful bride
Body of Christ
One flesh abiding
Strong and unifying
Fighting ends in forgiveness
Unite and fight all division
Beautiful bride

Beautiful bride
Body of Christ
One flesh abiding
Strong and unifying

We're not gonna fall and forget
How far You went to pick us up
If one part's hurt the whole body's sick
If one part mourns we all mourn with Him
Rejoice, we'll sing with you
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

[Chorus x2]

Tell the swine
We will make it out alive
There’s a note in the pages of a book
So sleep tonight
We’ll sleep dreamlessly this time
When we awake we’ll know that everything’s alright

Sing to me about the end of the world
End of these hammers and needles for you

Hold on to the world we all remember fighting for
There's still strength left in us yet
Hold on to the world we all remember dying for
There's still hope left in it yet

There's snow on your face
And your razor blade
The twilight is bruised
And there you lie

Sing to me about the end of the world
End of these hammers and needles for you
We’ll cry tonight
And in the morning we are new
Stand in the sun
We'll dry your eyes

Hold on to the world we all remember fighting for
There's still strength left in us yet
Hold on to the world we all remember dying for
There's still hope left in it yet

Sing, sing
Arise

Arise and be
All that you dreamed
All that you dreamed

(Hold on to the world we all remember fighting for)
Arise and be
All that you dreamed
All that you dreamed
(Hold on to the world we all remember fighting for)
Arise and be
All that you dreamed
All that you dreamed
(Hold on to the world we all remember fighting for)

Circle encircles the earth
Chance and choice break his heart
His innocent arm moves to save me and I am spared

His beautiful arm
Is bloody and cut off
His heart ripped out to show me he loved me

But I would not believe him
He did all that he could
I still would not believe him

I left his arms empty and tied
Outstretched for me until he died
Left his arms empty and tied
Outstretched for me until he died

No man shows greater love
Than when a man
Lays down his life
For his beloved

I left his arms empty and tied
Outstretched for me until he died
Left his arms empty and tied
Outstretched for me until he died

Here I’m alive
And I don’t have the right
He gave me the right
Costing him his life
New mercies in the morning

I believe
What if I believe you now
Could it ever change this heart
Forgive me, believe me
Please come back tonight

I believe
What if I believe you now
Could it ever change this heart
Forgive me, believe me
Please come back tonight
Come back to my life

I believe
What if I believe you now
Forgive me, believe me
Please come back tonight

I have made you an enemy
I have been my own enemy
I am asking for you to forgive me
For everything

If you don't
You're worthy of compassion
If you do
You're a better man than I am

If you don't know, you're my family
Enemy
I'm sorry
Oh, enemy, family
Forgive me

If you don't
You're worthy of compassion
If you do
You're a better man than I am
If you do
You're a better man than I am

Enemy, enemy, family, family

dae kim faggot just lashed his revenge

I'm so glad to be here
This day has become sacred
I'm trembling with thankfulness
For all of this

Who am I
Who am I
That you have brought me
This far, this far
Who am I that you have brought me so far

All those years of spoiled complaining
I said its not enough
And you have forgiven me for everything
Everything
And you have given me everything
Oh its too much, its too much
You're too much, you're too much

Who am I
Who am I
That you have brought me
This far, this far
Who am I that you have brought me so far

Who am I
Who am I
That you have brought me
This far, this far
Who am I that you have brought me so far

We can't be oblivious
We are not ignorant

Blood in our hearts
Blood on our hands

We're human
We reason
We're breathing
Protecting
You're living and dying, surviving, we're trying
To breathe in safety
Come home safely

Mercy screams its violent love
Justice..
And mercy
Justice..
And mercy
The death of us created for
Justice..
And mercy
Justice..
And mercy
This is where they kiss

Life, here sacrificed
Someone who payed the price
Blood in our hearts
Blood on our hands
We cry out, we're fighting, it's warfare, we're dying
Believing we're winning, it's ending, we're singing
It's already done
We've overcome

Mercy screams its violent love
Justice..
And mercy
Justice..
And mercy
The death of us created for
Justice..
And mercy
Justice..
And mercy
This is where they kiss

With a life on the line (the fire..)
That consumes or refines (the fire..)
To ascend or decline
To retreat or to climb
Out of sight, out of mind
'til attacked from behind
Will this fire..
Consume or refine?

Mercy screams its violent love
Justice..
And mercy
Justice..
And mercy
The death of us created for
Justice..
And mercy
Justice..
And mercy
This is where they kiss

I know
Days will come and go
Maybe I'll grow old
But I will die

For now
Is it worth it to be sad
If it's harder to be glad
To be alive

But the trouble I have caused
I wonder
Where do I belong
Is it here

Believe in dreams
You love so much
Let the passion of your heart
Make them real
And tell
All the ones you love
Anything and everything you feel

Laugh about the past
And secretly
Wish we could go back
And save the child

As I look around this room
Seeing worried eyes that know
It's time we cannot buy
Was this worth the time to write
Was this worth the time to write

Believe in dreams
I believe in dreams
I believe in dreams
I believe in you

Believe in dreams
You love so much
Let the passion of your heart
Make them real
And tell
All the ones you love
Anything and everything you feel

Believe in dreams
Believe in dreams

Lewis said there plainly seems to be
Moral standards in humanity
And this all makes perfect sense to me
Except we can't keep them can we

We are all guilty
Not being all we should be
Look at your own self and see

His voice cut through the war in my head
Screaming something I could understand
And somehow we knew me when He said

Is there anyone who's desperate
For anything more than this
I'm the anyone who's desperate
For anything more than this

We are all guilty
Not being all we should be
Look at your own self and see
We are all guilty
I am so guilty

Nobody move
I want that person to hear me
Yes, I'm talking to you
If you don't believe then
Lift up your arms
Open your hands
Receive
I’m free
I’m free

Said the night wind to the little lamb
Do you see what I see
Way up in the sky, little lamb
Do you see what I see
A star, a star, dancing in the night
With a tail as big as a kite
With a tail as big as a kite

Said the little lamb to the shepherd boy
Do you hear what I hear
Ringing through the sky, shepherd boy
Do you hear what I hear
A song, a song, high above the trees
With a voice as big as the sea
With a voice as big as the sea

Said the shepherd boy to the mighty king
Do you know what I know
In your palace warm, mighty king
Do you know what I know
A child, a child, shivers in the cold
Let us bring Him silver and gold
Let us bring Him silver and gold

Said the king to the people everywhere
Listen to what I say
Pray for peace people everywhere
Listen to what I say
A child, a child, sleeping in the night
He will bring us goodness and light
He will bring us goodness and light
He will bring us goodness and light

I still recall the taste of your tears
Echoing your voice just like the ringing in my ears
My favorite dreams of you still wash ashore
Scraping through my head til i don't want to sleep anymore

You make this all go away
You make this all go away
I just want something
I just want something i can never have

You were always the one to show me how
Back then i couldn't do the things
that i can do now
This thing is slowly taking me apart
Grey would be the color if i had a heart

Come on tell me

You make this all go away
You make this all go away
I'm down to just one thing
And i'm starting to scare myself
You make this all go away
You make this all go away
I just want something i just want something i can never have

In this place it seems like such a shame
Though it all looks different now,
I know it's still the same
Everywhere i look you're all i see
Just a fading reminder of who i used to be

Come on tell me

You make this all go away
You make this all go away
I'm down to just one thing
And i'm starting to scare myself
You make this all go away
You make this all go away
I just want something
I just want something i can never have

I just want something i can never have

Fuck. All this and no CRAWLING IN SKINNNNNNN?