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9273921 No.9273921[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Dumb question:

Why are the Japanese such pedophiles?

It's not just the obvious things like lolicon, there are junior idols and lolita fashion and other media. And it's not as though this stuff isn't sexualized or suggestive, so why does it happen? Are Japan just cool with the idea of portraying children this way, or have any government/religious organizations tried to stop it?

I know /jp/ hates Japan, doesn't know about its society, blah blah blah, but this is otaku culture and the sort of thing you lot *would* know about.

>> No.9273932

repressed adulthood, wanting to be children again, living vicariously, etc.

>> No.9273933

btw I'm a girl

>> No.9273934

US, Canada, and parts of Europe have toddler beauty pageants. It's all the same shit.

>> No.9273938

>>9273933
Please be in London

>> No.9273948

>>9273934
They're very controversial though. Toddlers in Tiaras started a shitstorm. In Japan it would be normal, even if it became popular as HELL.

>> No.9273951

If you know it's a dumb question, why do you ask it? Do you get off to people on the internet call you stupid? Are you a masochist? I don't judge, I just want to know what would make you do something this retarded.

>> No.9273956

>>9273951
calling* you stupid?

>> No.9273962

>>9273938
r u looking 4 fukune

>> No.9273963

>>9273951
I act a little bit self-deprecating but without overdoing it, so people are more likely to answer my question or I at least get replies like this (which fuel further discussion).

It works and you know it.

>> No.9273984

>>9273963
So besides a self-aware retard, you also have an inferiority complex. I recommend you become a primary user of the board /r9k/ and forget you ever set foot in this board, /jp/.

>> No.9273988 [DELETED] 

Because prepubescents are hot

>> No.9274001

Because humans find young girls attractive and Japan lacks the supposedly moral high ground to reject that notion.

>> No.9274002

I think asians just look naturally younger.
I mean look at how well Myamoto looked at E3. He's past 70 now.

>> No.9274005

Females of every race try to make themselves look youthful whatever means necessary. Youth is desirable no matter what shriveled bitter gargoyles try to tell you.

99% of the when someone says pedophile, they mean ephebophile.

Do you have graphs/stats/anything to suggest that toddlers are being molested in Japan anymore frequently than anywhere else in the world?

>> No.9274007

because westerners are closet pedos who project their shit on japs

>> No.9274011

>>9274002
wait, he's that old?

>> No.9274012

>>9274005
>graphs
Don't go there, Feminists think that if a guy hit on a woman in any circumsance he's raping her and use that as statistics.

>> No.9274014

>>9273948

Lol no, actually pedophilia is heavily frowned on. Notice that the girl is an adult? Young idols in Japan need their parents permission yes. But portraying children in a sexual manner, like sluts is heavily frowned upon, and is dishonorable. Anime is different, depending on what you watch, most of Japan finds Otaku worst then nerds or losers, but even then the biggest opponent of lolicon in media, the mayor of Tokyo knows the difference between 2D, and 3D. That and Japan has one of the lowest child molestation rates in the world. far lower than the US.

So technically, America sexualizes actual kids and provides more sexual material to actual pedophiles than Japan does

>> No.9274016 [DELETED] 

>>9274002
you just blew my mind as HELL

>> No.9274017

>>9274007
yep, I refuse to believe that a straight man would refuse sex with a 3d loli if there were no consequences

>> No.9274026

>>9273984
I appreciate your advice.

Another good tip is to say, "I know you must get this question a lot," in your original post. It's even more effective than "I'll delete my thread once I get an answer."

>> No.9274028

Milley Cirus is kind of the exact same thing as an Idol, down to her slut phase once she turned 18.
Same as the Jonas Brothers or dislike this if you hate Justin Bieber, etc.

>> No.9274029

google for "teen porn" "18 porn" or "schoolgirl porn"
wanting to fuck little girls is perfectly normal

>> No.9274035

Err, Miyamoto is 60.

>> No.9274037 [DELETED] 

>>9274026
"I'll delete my thread once I get an answer." is way too beta, and I never answer those faggots

>> No.9274040

>>9274002
Didn't we have a thread the other day about how Asians live forever?
Something to do with fish.

Guess they took the "four-inch penis" flaw to add some extra points to Constitution.

>> No.9274046

>>9274029
Do that in Germany and the polizei will seize your shit.

>> No.9274048

>>9274037
so alpha bro.
lets suck each other dicks to prove our manliness
*whips out big cock*

>> No.9274053
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>>9274046
German here, that is not the case.

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>>9274048

>kero feel when no one you know will whips out dick

>> No.9274068

>>9273921
I wonder how many cocks did she suck to get there. women acting innocent are so vomit-inducing

>> No.9274064
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>>9274017
Ego/super-ego, brah. Good old Schlomo's got my back.

I understand your line of thinking, though. Like I never get why grown men would kidnap a woman but _not_ rape her. Or help a lady in trouble rather than fucking her when they can get away with it. Turns out people have morals even when nobody's around. I don't doubt those morals are pretty superficial, though.

>> No.9274076

>>9274029
Fucking pedophiles jerking off to 17-year-olds.

HOLY SHIT AN AD FOR !!!BARELY LEGAL!!! BRUNETTES!

>> No.9274069

>>9274053
>thinks Germanic bitches actually are blue eyed blondes
They are all brunette hambeasts, and feminist as fuck.

>> No.9274072

>>9274046

>German Popo

Pretty much non-existance as they've been ground down by the minorities they failed to exterminate.

>> No.9274074 [DELETED] 

>>9274053
Face too red looks creepy.

>> No.9274077

>>9274064
>help a lady in trouble rather than fucking her when they can get away with it
white knights, they think she will reward them with respect or sex

>> No.9274084

Feminism killed the west it sucks

>> No.9274089
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>>9274069
Well I have blond hair and blue eyes and so does my sister.

Where are your anti-stereotypes now?

>> No.9274093

>>9274068
She was a junior idol before and works as a model, so probably a lot

>> No.9274097 [DELETED] 
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9274097

Remember that countdown site about Emma Watson? People don't start getting attracted to young girls once they turn 18, they just are forced to wait until then.

That said she wasn't attractive past age 12...

>> No.9274101

>>9274077
Moralfags are truly patient people, I'll give them that.

>> No.9274108

>>9274074
You gay.

>> No.9274112
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9274112

If you like this, your a perfectly normal healthy adult.

>> No.9274114

>>9274053
their armpits. I want to fuck their armpits!

>> No.9274123 [DELETED] 

>>9274108
Don't get me wrong I like small aryan girls, but I don't like those ones (if they are actually both girls).

>> No.9274128

>>9274123
Are you insane?

>> No.9274130
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9274130

>>9274097
Am I allowed to fap to actresses older than 18 if they were younger than 18 in the pictures/videos I'm fapping to?

>> No.9274132

The whole not letting "children" have sex till their 18 is kind of a new thing, is it not? America has a serious overreaction to anything sexual, so try not to base your opinions on what the average Americunt thinks.

>> No.9274137

>>9274130
Am I allowed to fap to pictures of myself naked?

>> No.9274142

>>9274130
Always confusing.

>> No.9274151

>>9274137
I fap to those pictures, so it is probably fine.

>> No.9274147

>>9274130
No

In the same way that if you filmed yourself doing something lewd below 18 and then showed it to someone after you turned 18 it would count as distributing CP and you would be arrested

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9274150

まったく!

>> No.9274161

What you are talking about is not a normal occurrence in Japan.

Most media you see is weird shit, because the weird stuff is LOL SO FUNNI JAPAN U SO SILLY LEL XD bullshit that you find on the internet. Normal Japanese people are not into lolicon, etc.

As for things like junior idols, most countries have them. Look at Justin Beiber, Miley Cyrus etc. They were fucking kids when they started.
As far as lolita goes, that's a fashion style. This is almost exclusively worn by young women or teens.

What you are talking about is a subculture that is within Japan, a subculture that does indeed like children. However, segments like this exist in every population. Maybe they are pedophiles, maybe they are not and just like the drawings or whatnot, but who are you to judge them? They have not hurt anybody. They are looking at drawn pictures most of the time, actual CP is illegal in Japan. These artistic interpretations are just that.

Popular thinking around /jp/ is that most human beings are pedophiles to an extent. Just look at /b/, or hell, any other anonymous image board in the world. Men all over the globe are normally attracted to under-age teenage girls. Most women value youthfulness, and actively try to cover up their aging. Why do you think that is? Of course, to attract men.

Cuteness is the "thing" in Japan right now and has been for some time. Girls are encouraged to be as cute. NHK is actually doing (or did?) a multi-part series on the "kawaii culture" of Japan.
Well, since Japan is obsessed with cute, what's cuter than little girls?


tl;dr: Most Japanese are not pedophiles, phenomenon like junior idols/young kids being put up is normal, men are usually attracted to underage girls, Japan loves cute things.

>> No.9274158

>>9274132
When will children be sexually liberated?
I think its time to march on Washington.

>> No.9274160

>>9274112
Not liking their faces, but I do like their, young, fresh bodies.

>> No.9274164

>>9274132
It appeared about the same time as marriage out of love started to actually, well exist. From today's standpoint it's hard to believe that it's only about 300 years old.

>> No.9274168

>>9274147
I know they're rare cases but I still hate that shit like this happens. Like when teenagers send each other lewd photos and get arrested for CP, or someone takes a photo of them touching each other at prom.

rms should run for President.

>> No.9274182

>>9274161
>As for things like junior idols, most countries have them. Look at Justin Beiber, Miley Cyrus etc.

/r/ images of these people in school swimsuits clearly intended for sex appeal

>> No.9274184

>Why are the Japanese such pedophiles?
The whole world is, it's just more obvious in Japan.

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9274205

>>9274182

>> No.9274214

>>9274205
From the adults controlling her life, not from the slut herself to get some sexual attention.

And no, all Zionism aside, this photo was clearly her decision. Lacks (decent) photoshopping.

>> No.9274215

Japanese people are less likely to intrude on and judge you for your private sex life and interests. So long as it stays private.

Baka gaijins, on the other hand, would willingly have CCTV installed in every bedroom in case any pedoing is going on.

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>>9274205

>> No.9274239

>>9274214
I think I saw her doing a "punked episode" (I had no internet at the time) She's pretty much a slut. most kids will be before they turn 15.

>> No.9274238

>>9274182
/tv/ is pedo visit them

>> No.9274247

>>9274232
>miley cirus dad
Wat

>> No.9274248

>>9274232
The Queen is the best looking of all of them.

>> No.9274243

>>9274215
It's feminism's fault

>> No.9274254

>>9274214
I supplied what you wanted, suck my cock dude.

>> No.9274260

>>9274232
They go above and beyond trying to look like unappealing sluts.

This is why I prefer Japan's predisposition for cute rather than sexy.

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9274276

someone please trace this with lolis

>> No.9274287
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9274287

>>9274276
And this

>> No.9274302

>>9274276
>>9274287
The sad part is she probably considers herself a good artist rather than a shitty sexualized celeb

>> No.9274295

>>9274276
>>9274287
Wow America is messed up.

>> No.9274309

>>9274302
and her millions of fans

>> No.9274303

>>9274276
>>9274287
Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.9274315

I don't know why you picked Kyary Pamyu Pamyu for this thread.

If anything, she's a breath of anti-pedo fresh air in the idol industry. She wears shorts and non-revealing skirts and shit. Just compare any AKB48 video where they are practically in their underwear to a Kyary video.

As for your question, I think young girls (especially idols) cater to the pure/virgin fantasy of their fans, and as such the younger the better. Of course, girls in Japan lose their virginity at like 13-16 (at latest).

>> No.9274316 [DELETED] 

>>9274287
What an unattractive face.

>> No.9274327

>>9274260
Rustle

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9274339

No one has mentioned that the age of consent in Japan is 13?

>mfw I can legally fuck a 13 year old in japan

>> No.9274344

>>9274339
It varies by prefecture

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9274345

thumbs up if you like gomennasai (means sorry in japanese but I meant the artist who draws some loli)

>> No.9274362

>>9274339
That's only on a federal level. Every prefecture has it's own, higher, age. I think the lowest is 15.

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>>9274339
>I can legally fuck a 13 year old in Japan
No you can't

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9274369

>>9274339

>> No.9274380

>>9274362
So if you fuck a 13 year old Japanese girl in a Japanese embassy overseas then you're fine since its on their federal level?

>> No.9274381 [DELETED] 

>>9274339
A pubescent is a pubescent. I don't see what's the big deal. Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed.

>yfw when Americans clap when they encounter ripe <18 pussy

>> No.9274385

>>9274369
Age of consent in BR is NOT 14.
Brasileiro aqui e vocês gringos tão cheios de merda.

>> No.9274408

what's the best part about fucking a 13 year old

>> No.9274411

>>9274369
9 years old in Mexico?
Why so old?

>> No.9274422

>>9274411
12 actually. they're practically grandmas!

>> No.9274425

>>9274411

It's 12.

>> No.9274428

>>9274408

They haven't turned into a dumb bitch yet.

>> No.9274430

>>9274345
I hate his art the most of anyone's. It's not just ugly, it borders on gross, like Hohihone Saizo's or that guy /jp/ used to pust that drew those horribly b&w super detailed guroish touhou images.

>> No.9274433 [DELETED] 

>>9274408
there's ther of them

>> No.9274439

>>9274428
not in america

>> No.9274441

>>9274381
8 year olds have legs and arms and can hold a gun, therefore we should send them into afghanistan
- u

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>>9274430
I'm thumbing your post down....

>> No.9274449

>>9274408
your cock will look huge in her tiny hands

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>>9274441

Learn how to use the quote function you tard.

>> No.9274503

>>9274456
it was a mensaphorical quite, baka

>> No.9274529

>>9274430
>Hohihone Saizo's or that guy /jp/ used to pust that drew those horribly b&w super detailed guroish touhou images.

he still post and he's still better than you cocksucker

>> No.9274546

>implying the average Japanese citizen wouldn't be shocked and appalled at lolicon

>> No.9274593 [DELETED] 

>>9274546
1- Do you know every single japanese citizen?
2- Read on the loliban, the politician who passed it is widely approved and was re-elected, on Agnis Chan and the whole japanese Unicef supported it.

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>>9274546
I sometimes wonder if you showed a Jap or Usa a (non-porn but still lewd) loli image and asked them what they thought, would they take the time to do anything more than go "ew gross" and immediately forget while going back to whatever they were doing.

>> No.9274724

>>9274161
>Most media you see is weird shit, because the weird stuff is LOL SO FUNNI JAPAN U SO SILLY LEL XD bullshit that you find on the internet.
This is the most blatant bs I've read this entire week.

Firstly, you can easily see videos of child models doing obscene positions in Japan like in no other place (e.g Nico nico douga).
They even import children from other countries (candy dolls).

>However, segments like this exist in every population. Maybe they are pedophiles, maybe they are not and just like the drawings or whatnot, but who are you to judge them? They have not hurt anybody. They are looking at drawn pictures most of the time, actual CP is illegal in Japan.
CP in Japan is just sex with children (though this isn't very clarified about the age).
While in other countries anything that has something to do with sexuality and children is considered CP.

>Men all over the globe are normally attracted to under-age teenage girls. Most women value youthfulness, and actively try to cover up their aging. Why do you think that is? Of course, to attract men.
Men around the world value what is called "jail-bait", not children.

>tl;dr: Most Japanese are not pedophiles, phenomenon like junior idols/young kids being put up is normal, men are usually attracted to underage girls, Japan loves cute things.
Most Japanese are not OPENLY pedophiles.
There's a difference between liking cute things and sexualizing cute things.

>> No.9274751

>>9274724
Isn't Candy dolls illegal in the west?

>> No.9274754 [DELETED] 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ4pGehXwuA

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Calm down, mofos. It's just CP.

>> No.9274787

>>9274751
Not in Russia (if you consider Russian western) and other slavic countries.

>> No.9274846

>>9274724
Nah you're full of shit since 1999 any nudity was banned.

Of course there's lots of risqué shit, in which case the biggest offender are their parents for putting their own kids in that situation.

Also cut down the sensationalistic crap feminist mangina.

>> No.9274871

>>9274724
>CP in Japan is just sex with children (though this isn't very clarified about the age).
>While in other countries anything that has something to do with sexuality and children is considered CP.
Google Bill 156 or loliban.
Doujin artists only get away with it because their work is self published and has a small print.

>> No.9274879

>>9274724
>Firstly, you can easily see videos of child models doing obscene positions in Japan like in no other place
There are child `model' agencies in the west too. Webeweb was in the US, as is RebelShooter (Who is a giant faggot, and sometimes removes large numbers of pictures from sets (it jumps from pic55.jpg to pic95.jpg, too lewd?)). There are several in Europe, such as the agency that Cherish was with, Talent's R Us, A Little Agency,.... In France, there is even a company that produces lingerie for little girls (http://www.jours-apres-lunes.com/ , SFW, but I wouldn't risk it, wageslave). Not to mention all the Eastern European and Russian agencies that handle all the `harder' material.

>> No.9274880

I don't know, but I'm glad they are the way they are. Without 2D loli I wouldn't have many legal options left for sexual satisfaction.

On another note, why are Americans so aggressive against anyone who are perverted? They would sooner kill a pedophile who has broken no laws than a murderer. Their morals are so twisted.

>> No.9274892

>>9274879
56-94 was the sex

>> No.9274893

>>9274880
That's how it's becoming in every western country, thanks feminists

>> No.9274910

>>9274892
Given how terribly he tries to make them look adult, what with make-up and stupid facial expressions that are obviously coaxed, I doubt that he would even be interested.

>> No.9274924

>>9274893
Fuck yeah, sexual liberation*!

(* for matriarchal values of "liberty")

>> No.9275390

>>9274879
>There are child `model' agencies in the west too
Yeah but they their videos are not on popular western sites.

>> No.9275394

>>9274846
>Nah you're full of shit since 1999 any nudity was banned.
Good thing children using clothes aren't banned.
>Also cut down the sensationalistic crap feminist mangina.
You are the one that is full of shit.

>> No.9275399

>>9275390
Western sites are just more nazish about moderation. Japs like to stick their head in the sand and pretend it isn't there.

>> No.9275401

>>9275390
Thats because western girls just don't have the charm of the U15 girls.

>> No.9275417

>>9275399
>Japs like to stick their head in the sand and pretend it isn't there.
Yeah, 80,000 + views and they pretend it isn't there.
>>9275401
Strange, they seem very popular in Japan.

>> No.9275421

>this is otaku culture

No it isn't.

>> No.9275422

>>9275401
american 15 years old look like college sluts

>> No.9275429

>>9275417
>Yeah, 80,000 + views and they pretend it isn't there.
Link or it didn't happen.

>> No.9275440

>>9275438
fuck yea america! pedo #1

>> No.9275438

Pedophile:
United States >>> Japan

>> No.9275444

>>9275429
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6164288

>> No.9275455

>>9275438
It's funny because America actually don't lie about their number of pedophiles.

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>>9275444

>> No.9275459

>>9275444
Great, now post some more.

>> No.9275476

>>9275444
>>9275474
I'm pretty jelly of that cameraman.

>> No.9275474

>>9275451
Want more?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8298243

>> No.9275481

>>9275444
am i getting fbied now? i want more

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>>9273921
I don't think you know what pedophile means, if anything they would be Hebephilias

lolita has nothing to do with age and lolita is a fashion based of vitorain style cloths

Why doesn't the west ban tanning since its bad for you. idolize total fucking retards (jersey shore, kim kardashin, justin bieber)
>>9273933
btw i don't care

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Don't be such a square, OP. It doesn't hurt anyone, so where's the problem?

>> No.9275516

お前ら、中学生や高校生SEXしたいからって、犯罪者予備軍の英語教師になっ
て日本に行って、中高生とSEXしたら淫行で捕まるだけだぞw

淫行条例 (地方条例)
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B7%AB%E8%A1%8C%E6%9D%A1%E4%BE%8B

>> No.9275519

>>9275474
>>9275444
ハァハァァ

>> No.9275522

>>9275516

Translate it, weeaboos.

>> No.9275536

>>9275516
FUG OFF, WEBOO

>> No.9275533

>>9275516
butthurt.

>> No.9275863

>>9274369

>The national age of consent in Japan is 13 as specified by the Japanese Penal Code Articles 176 and 177. However, prefectures can have ordinances that prohibit sexual activities with any minor under 18.

>‘Rape’, Art. 177 Penal Code 'A person who, through violence or intimidation, has sexual intercourse with a female person of not less than thirteen (13) years of age commits the crime of rape and shall be punished with imprisonment at forced labour for a limited term of not less than two years. The same shall apply to a person who has sexual intercourse with a female person under thirteen (13) years of age.'

>'Indecency through compulsion', Art. 176 Penal Code 'A person who, through violence or intimidation, commits an indecent act upon a male or female person of not less than thirteen (13) years of age shall be punished with imprisonment at forced labour for not less than six months nor more than seven years. The same shall apply to a person who commits an indecent act upon a male or female person under thirteen (13) years of age.

Then does this mean that prostitution of girls 13 and above are possible/available?

>> No.9275989

>>9275863
>>9274002

This. Jav companies use this into their advantage like making a loli-esque pornography, thus the jav star appearing being a "legal loli".

>> No.9276360

>>9275516
Can anyone translate that in English please.

>> No.9276399

>>9276360
Whitto Piggo go Google Language Tools

>> No.9276416

I thought it was pretty obvious responsible law abiding citizens frown upon loli, and it's just that the country in general has a thing for cute things.


As for nicovideos of clothed children, ah come on don't tell me you never saw one of those lewd teens dancing to Beyonce on synchtube or whatever.
That always had over 80k views too.

>> No.9276628

Are you telling me other countries (I'm from USA so I'll use their media as an example, since I know more about it) don't sexualize underage people? That Miley Cyrus girl is like what 16 or 17 now and every guy I know would violate her. Another thing I've noticed lately is how acceptable it has become for older women to fawn over young boys. I always hear older ladies (30+) talking about doing sexual things to that werewolf kid from Twilight and the Jonas Brothers and Bieber and shit.

What I don't get it is, if it's acceptable for women to act this way, why does everyone act so disgusted when men admit thinking an underage girl is attractive? Like that Ashley Tisdale girl.

It's not like you get a free pass on being a pedo too just because you have a vag. Bitches, man.

>> No.9278494

>>9276628

Roricon here. That's the exact thing I'm wondering. We've all went into being a teen, we've all been attracted to our opposites and yet it's frowned upon to say you still like them (adolescent girls) when we turn into adults even if it's law-abiding. Why is this fine for MILFs to do while not for their men counterpart? Fucking bitches, man.

>> No.9278506

>>9274112
dem chink eyes

>> No.9278516

>>9278494
>Fucking bitches
Because society wants you to be doing this instead for whatever reason.

>> No.9278540

ITT:
Guy A: Hey guys, according to these articles about ZANYLAND Japan, the country is full of pedophiles.
Guy B: Nah brah, according to my superior experience with VNs and manga, that's not true.

Both A and B have never set foot in Japan.

Audience
>ara ara doushio~ who should I believe <3

>> No.9278542

>>9278494
Because kids are too easy. In addition, people usually do something about their romantic desires so they automatically assume that all pedophiles are potential child molesters. Pedophilia is also a difficult topic to discuss which inevitably leads to ignorance.

>> No.9278549

>>9278540
>ara ara doushio~ who should I believe <3

That's not what doushio means

>> No.9278552

>>9278549
Yes it does.
どうしよう = What should I do?

>> No.9278555

3D is still disgusting, regardless of age.

>> No.9278556

>>9278540
There's links here with evidence here for both arguments sperglord.

Also the thread is now about straight shota.

>> No.9278559

>>9278552

what should I do =! who should I believe

>> No.9278564

>>9278559
>Oh my what should I do~ Who should I believe
It's one sentence, you retard.

>> No.9278570

>>9278540
>ローマ字

>> No.9278574

>>9278570
あらあらどうしよう~誰を信じたら良いの<3
Happy now?

>> No.9278578

>>9278564

You're getting trolled, retard.

>> No.9278582
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>>9278574

Yes

>> No.9278583

>>9278578
>H-Hurry, I gotta make them think I did it on purpose!

>> No.9278590

>>9278583

>implying i'm samefagging

Confirmed for full retard.

>> No.9278630

>>9278516
>>9278542

What I dislike is how just the attraction itself will eventually lead to and labeled as this "disorder" called pedophilia. It's the same notion as taking an attraction to mature people/MILFs.

>> No.9278639

>>9278630

It is inevitable given how the society functions today.

>> No.9278656

>pedophiles

But that's wrong. A pedophile is someone who lusts after girls who are prepubescent. Most "lolicon" stuff is girls who have just hit puberty or are past it. This isn't pedophilia.

Throughout history this was completely acceptable. It was only until recently that 12-13 year old girls have been considered off limits in the western world. Even as early at the 1800's in the US 40 year olds marrying 13 year olds wasn't uncommon or shunned.

I'm not pro 13 year old girl marriage, quite the opposite. I just think that we've watered down the term pedophilia and it's caused more harm than good. Now people joke about pedobear and pedophilia rather than taking it seriously.

>> No.9278662
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9278662

Hey Mr, what's going on in this thre...oh shit! Stranger danger!

>> No.9278664
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9278664

FREE THAD
First report: http://www.freep.com/article/20120229/NEWS03/120229035/southfield-child-pornography-FBI-Facebook
FBI's request for arrest/search warrant: http://www.mediafire.com/?5b3cnad1ibrvcy2
Thad pays bond: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012120301054
Various court docs: http://ia700806.us.archive.org/4/items/gov.uscourts.mied.267304/gov.uscourts.mied.267304.docket.html
http://ia600801.us.archive.org/0/items/gov.uscourts.mied.267305/gov.uscourts.mied.267305.docket.html

Stallman's wise words: The nominee is quoted as saying that if the choice of a sexual partner were protected by the Constitution, "prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia" also would be. He is probably mistaken, legally--but that is unfortunate. All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness.

Some rules might be called for when these acts directly affect other people's interests. For incest, contraception could be mandatory to avoid risk of inbreeding. For prostitution, a license should be required to ensure prostitutes get regular medical check-ups, and they should have training and support in insisting on use of condoms. This will be an advance in public health, compared with the situation today.

For necrophilia, it might be necessary to ask the next of kin for permission if the decedent's will did not authorize it. Necrophilia would be my second choice for what should be done with my corpse, the first being scientific or medical use. Once my dead body is no longer of any use to me, it may as well be of some use to someone. Besides, I often enjoy rhinophytonecrophilia (nasal sex with dead plants).

>> No.9278685

>>9278656
>Most "lolicon" stuff is girls who have just hit puberty or are past it. This isn't pedophilia.
No. Lolicon stuff is definitely about prepubescent girls.

>Now people joke about pedobear and pedophilia rather than taking it seriously.
Only edgy 4chan communities joke about.

Most places even on the internet take pedophilia way too seriously. Like Reddit getting rid of any subreddit even slightly jailbait related.

>> No.9278688

>>9278664
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/sep/29/cloud.computing.richard.stallman

>> No.9278692

>Girl has huge tits, looks about 21

"omfgggg so many lolis in anime and games now :("

>> No.9278716

>>9278685
>No. Lolicon stuff is definitely about prepubescent girls.
Do you even LO?

>> No.9278721

>>9278716

LO varies significantly, from like 5 - 12 years old.

>> No.9278727

>>9278721
>5 - 12
>5

No.

>> No.9278731

>>9278685
>Only edgy 4chan communities joke about.
Someone linked some Nyanners song a few days ago and for once I was actually pleased to look at the comments. Everyone was making crude pedophile jokes and nobody was getting butthurt. It was kind of relieving since I always saw pedophilia as the "Holocaust of sex jokes" to normal people.

>Like Reddit getting rid of any subreddit even slightly jailbait related.
Blame Something Awful for that. I'm not a Reddit fan and I don't have an account, but I actually liked /r/jailbait because of how autistic they were. They named, organized, and categorized sets pretty well, and there was a lot of friendly sharing going on. It felt like how a site like Reddit SHOULD work. And as for accessible jailbait communities, you'd struggle to find better.
Earlier someone was actually complaining that Reddit was *too* liberal, but as a result of pedogate, they really narrowed their terms of service:
http://www.reddit.com/help/useragreement
Half the shit in here isn't even illegal, they just don't want people to post kids in bikinis or teenagers drinking alcohol because they're now paranoid about getting into trouble. It's fucking pathetic, especially for a site whose userbase think it's the anti-censorship, freedom of speech forefront of the internet.

>> No.9278748
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9278748

>>9278731
I assume you mean the pomfpomfpomf song. I'm amazed it's still up considering the original pomf =3 video she made which made her so popular got reported to hell and back and removed.

>> No.9278759

>>9278748
Me too. I mean, it has a few hundred thousand views. And both the song and the doujin it's referencing are pretty explicit.
Surprised bored /a/ nerds haven't mass-flagged the video.

>> No.9278766

I think everyone should read this very tl;dr text file:
http://up02.ayame.jp/up/download/1317296819.zip

It's about teenage nudity and sexuality in commercial media. The bulk of the file is an index of where teens have appeared nude in films and magazines, but there's a lot of information on court cases, moral issues, legal issues, misinformation, and stuff like that. It's seriously one of the most fascinating things I've ever read.

>> No.9278771

>>9278766
> 5 alerts
You can't hack me, I have Norton Gaming Edition.

>> No.9278777

What I want to know is how the conversion of hebephilia and ephebophilia into pedophilia in the minds of the majority benefits the Zionist conspiracy.

>> No.9278788

>>9278777
Reduced goyim breeding? ¯\(°_o)/¯

>> No.9278898

I miss the good old days, when grown men would marry girls in their early teens.

>> No.9278913

>>9278777

sex later = people infantilized longer

generation of ``manbabies''

>> No.9278931

If CP is illegal in Japan, can someone explain what makes this okay

http://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=mum00014/

>> No.9278942

>>9278931

The girl in the video is an adult.

>> No.9278947

>>9278777
>>9278913
It's not Zionists. It's women who don't want to compete with young girls.

>> No.9278970

America is afraid of sex because of God and because you need to be puritan to hold together a continent-wide empire.

>> No.9279023

>>9278970
There's a really people who think sex is taboo in USA?

>> No.9279028

Because Japs are non-religious Master Race who haven't been brainwashed and controled by retard and hysterical moralfags.

Lolicon is everywhere in the world, but that's the difference.

>> No.9279032

>>9279023
That's how it looks like to the outside world yes. You guys have shitstorms each time some piece of media shows a nipple, not to mention a higher age of consent than is usual.

>> No.9279045

>>9279032
Average age of consent in America is 16.
Just like it is in Europe.

>> No.9279043 [DELETED] 

>>9279032
America IS the world. Japan is no different, really.

>> No.9279058

>>9279032
nice spotlight fallacy, NERD

not everyone in america is some crazy christian lunatic
there also spics and niggers

>> No.9279178

>>9278931

Read >>9275989

>> No.9279240

>>9279032
American TV is filled by vulgar real-tv show, RnB music videos full of almost naked dancers, gossip shit where they show us Hollywood panties etc... We eat the same shit in all the West. Japan's TV are pretty prude and conservative in comparison.

>>9279028
Retarded argument. Religion in Japan is really not seen as evil or harmful like in modern West, especially Europe. That's do not mean they have faith, they are Shintoist just like we are Christians...
Don't you find weird the omnipresence of Christian (well, more like Catholic in fact) symbols, music and architecture in Japanese stuffs who have nothing to do with religion?
Also religious people are far from being the most brainwashed people by cultural marxist mass medias.

>> No.9279304

>>9279240
>Also religious people are far from being the most brainwashed people by cultural marxist mass medias.
That doesn't mean they're any less brainwashed, though.

>> No.9279355

>>9275444
Cute. Especially the bit where she accidentally showed her goods while innocently adjusting her pantsu.

>>9275474
Newstar Diana? This is no good. Why would you even link that?

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LO 100 is finally up by the way

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9279421

>>9279304
I don't deny that. Might of medias are too strong and humanity too conformist. It can't help.

>> No.9279470

Kyary is 19, so she doesn't really fit your post...

>> No.9279472

>>9278970
god is in reality an evil, despotical tyrant, not any better then a demon.

christian god is the devil. you've been praying to and worshipping satan all along, christians/catholics/mormons/etc who believes in jesus and his posse.

>> No.9279486

What are those gravure videos with underaged girls called again?

>> No.9279515

>>9279486
Candydoll?

>> No.9279517

>>9279470
Not going to post pics (Because it's illegal) but Kyary most definetly did do child modeling in swimsuits (school ver) and shit

>> No.9279559

ITT: Pedos don't understand that children aren't fully mentally developed and will use their twisted logic to justify their abnormal urges.

>> No.9279570

>>9279559
Rape is always bad no matter the age, but I don't think modelling hurts the children unless they're told every day that they were abused and that they are victims while everyone feels sorry for them.

>> No.9279590

>>9274724
Hello! I am the poster you were replying to.
>Firstly, you can easily see videos of child models doing obscene positions in Japan like in no other place (e.g Nico nico douga).
Why in no other place? Have you bothered checking?
The reason I ask this is because if you have lurked this website long enough, you will have come across this material coming from every country. In addition, there are chans dedicated to this sort of material, and when it was still kosher to post about them (I'm not mentioning any names because they are instabanned) you could easily see these images come from all sorts of countries.
>They even import children from other countries (candy dolls).
Which then raises this point: Those Children didn't go to Japan by themselves. This was endorsed by their family or even an agency that the kids are signed up with, which would mean that this does indeed happen on a much wider scale than just Japan.
>CP in Japan is just sex with children.
>While in other countries anything that has something to do with sexuality and children is considered CP.
This is a lie. Either you have made this up, or you are forwarding a lie. The Japanese law specifies that even images of clothed children can be considered child pornography.
>Men around the world value what is called "jail-bait", not children.
Depends on your definition of children, but it seems like you're changing the goal posts here. I view anybody under 18 to be a child, and the definition of "jailbait" can go pretty young, overlapping with the age of most junior idols.

>> No.9279640

>>9274724
Now I will point out some of the general flaws in what you were saying.

First, you haven't provided any evidence for the claim that more Japanese people are attracted to children than other cultures, which was the point of this thread. Perhaps Japanese people are indeed more open about that sort of thing, but that doesn't mean that they are more or less attracted, but just that it's accepted.

You forgot to draw a parallel. For many thousands of years, once an individual was of pubic age (or later) then they were "free" for the taking, so to speak. Marriage and sex with young people was incredibly common in human history, and in some places (Arab countries come to mind) it still goes on. I am not saying that something is good if it is common, but I am stating that perhaps the attraction to children is a natural thing.

Related, you seem to be arguing on the premise that the attraction to younger people is a bad thing, but you have not yet justified that premise. I take a pretty freedom-loving view of most things, and I do not see how a cartoon image of children, or even a picture of a clothed child can be harmful to anybody. If you have any scientific evidence that people are damaged in any way by looking at or producing this type of imagery, you should share it with me

>> No.9279657

>>9279590
you're still a kid for 3, 2, 1, boom, you're an adult now!

doesn't work this way, it's gradual. some people are already fully developed mentally (so, adult) below 18, some are still like kids well into their 20s, sometimes even 30s like chris-chan.

>> No.9279664

>>9279657
I did not say that it wasn't a gradual change.

However, you have to draw the boundary, legally, between a child and an adult at some point. Every point is going to be arbitrary, which means no point is better than any other. Therefore, I presupposed my own point.

>> No.9280114

>>9279664
>very point is going to be arbitrary,
Except, you know, puberty, the point where someone physically becomes an adult and at which any other animal on the planet is considered an adult.

>> No.9280125

>>9280114
Except that point differs from the point where the average person can make decisions that they likely won't regret in the future, and the law has to reconcile those.

>> No.9285145 [DELETED] 

お前ら、中学生や高校生SEXしたいからって、犯罪者予備軍の英語教師になっ

日本に行って、中高生とSEXしたら淫行で捕まるだけだぞw
犯罪者になるぞw
「旅の恥はかき捨て」どころじゃなくなるそw

淫行条例
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B7%AB%E8%A1%8C%E6%9D%A1%E4%BE%8B

>> No.9285162

お前ら、/jp/の嘘の情報信じて、日本の中学生や高校生とSEXしたいからって
、犯罪者予備軍の英語教師になって日本に行って、中高生とSEXしたら淫行で
捕まるだけだぞw
犯罪者になるぞw
「旅の恥はかき捨て」どころじゃなくなるぞw

淫行条例
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B7%AB%E8%A1%8C%E6%9D%A1%E4%BE%8B

>> No.9285304

>>9285162
I don't see how this negates the proven fact that all Japanese men are pedophiles.

>> No.9287114

>>9285304
日本は、お前らアメリカ人みたいに、児童性的虐待が多くないんだよ。
日本人の聖職者が児童性的虐待することもほとんどない。
日本において、韓国人の聖職者が児童性的虐待で捕まる事件はたくさんある
が。

>> No.9287260

>>9287114
translate it, weeaboo

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