/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>Irotoridori no Sekai - 35,781/51,100 (70.02%) lines translated, full common route, Kana, Tsukasa, and Kyou route translated, prologue patch released
Kimiaru - Day one translated
Koitate - Ren and Yukino’s route patch released
Kud Wafter - Translation started
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, Sasami route 66.83% (4472/6691) translated
Majikoi- Yukie + Chris + Momoyo + Wanko + teacher route patch released, Miyako route 40% translated
M&M Enchanting Magic & Sweet Charms- 92%
Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Trial patch released, work on the full game planned
Mirai no Uta to Tsunagaru Hitomi - Translation planned
Muv-Luv Chronicles - Work being done on The Day After 00 + 01
>Never 7 - all 113 scripts and 94 of 111 tips through initial translation, 101/113 scripts through final translation, 67/113 scripts through final translation+editing, preview patch out
Nursery Rhyme - 9049/34410 lines (26.3%) translated
Oreimo PSP - Significant progress made with a youtube translation
Pandora no Yume - 15-17% translated
Parfait- Translation planned
>Period- game total translation: 97.01% complete, translation on last route
Princess Maker 5- 44% translated
Pure Pure The Story of Ears and Tails- Sachi Patch released, 85.48% translated
Real Imouto - 5745/16108 (35.67%) translated
Rance 3 - 75% translated
Rance 4 - 20% translated
>Rance 6 - teaser patch out, 4570/104155 (4.39%) lines translated
>Rance Quest - 6254/101483 (6.16%) lines translated

>Rewrite - 38732.7/101220 (38.27%) lines translated, common route patch out
Rose Guns Days‬ - Will be translated by Witch Hunt with the blessings of 07th Expansion
Sakura Wars 1 - Project started
Sapphism no Gensou - 47 scripts translated
Sensei Da-isuki 2- roughly 25% translated, still active
Sharin no Kuni, Yuukyuu no Shounenshoujo - Fully translated, someone has gone through all the scripts for editing
Shinigami no Kiss wa Wakare no Aji - Common route and Honoka's route translated, overall 12361/18147 = 68.12% lines translated
Sin- 65% of episode 1 translated
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 6- fully translated, 8/15 scripts through TLC
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 8- fully translated
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 9- 4/18 scripts translated
Sumaga Special - KBs done: [193.39kb/8131.54kb] (2.38%)
Tenshi No Inai 12-Gatsu-"Maho route fixed"
Togainu No Chi- 77% translated, partial patch out
To Heart2- 63% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
Tomoyo After - Patch scheduled for July 20th
Touka Gettan: translation status: ~40% translated
Welcome to Pia Carrot 2 - 1st draft translation 35%, as it was found much of the script was originally not dumped
>White Album 2 - Overall: 2990/70253 (4.25%)lines translated, Introductory Chapter: 2990/10769 (27.76%) lines translated
>Yandere - 90% translated
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated, 28% edited
Yosuga no Sora - Roughly 40% translated, goal for greater than 50% patch around mid-to-late february

>Aroduc's secret project - 7 chapters translated

Official work

MangaGamer
Dengeki Strykers - Trial out and preorders open, 6/22 release
Ef - checking final build
Harukoi Otome - TL/Editing complete, Scripting in April, latter half of 2012 release expected
OtoBoku - 8/20 scripts translated
>Eroge - 35/60 H-scenes translated
Da Capo III - Mentioned at AX
Innocent Grey would also like to bring over an upcoming title related to Kara no Shoujo
Negotiations with age still ongoing
Negotiations for Oretsuba are still ongoing
Games from Denbonosu - "Hopefully in the future with MangaGamer, I can do something in the US too."[president of Denbonosu]
Negotiations ongoing with Clochette, would like to bring over Kamikaze Explorers
Picked up a Circus title with gameplay

JAST
>School Days HQ - Golden Master, shipping late June
Yumina the Ethereal - "Script and images translated. Working on insertion and testing"
Moero Downhill Night Blaze- 90% translated, fixing bug
Saya no Uta - 99% complete
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django: Couple more months of translation
Kikokugai - Working out issues
Sumaga- expected to be fully translated this year
Seinarukana- picked up, ~38% translated
Starless - Work ongoing
Starry Sky- negotations with voice actors
Muramasa - Common route complete, 2 of 5 chapters towards true end translated, uncertain what will come from the project
Steins;Gate - 2nd pass: 154/175 Scripts. Phone and TIPS edited, rough patch out, Jast may pick up the project

Other
LUDESIA- English release planned
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
A tracker for these threads put together by Tinfoil: http://vntls.tindabox.net/

>Grisaia no Kajitsu- common route fully translated
Excellent.

So, is Yosuga no Sora dead?

>White Album 2 - Overall: 2990/70253 (4.25%)lines translated, Introductory Chapter: 2990/10769 (27.76%) lines translated

So how much of this is not shit

>Rewrite - 38732.7/101220 (38.27%) lines translated, common route patch out

Ixrec is my god *__*

>Rance Quest progress
What..? Is this magic.

Holy shit, a whole line of WA2 translated since last week?

>>9147883
70253 lines

>>9147895
It's going to be painfully slow and probably terrible like F/HA.

Very disappointing since I want to play it.

First for Cudder.

>>9147895
If you can call what Baka-Tsuki does translation.

>Eroge - 35/60 H-scenes translated
What about the non-H scenes?

The what

>>9147930
I don't understand

A lot of green this week.

The best thread of the week is here again!

inb4 cudder shitting up the thread

Okay, so I installed Rewrite from the original game a couple months ago. I tested it with the "gajin hack" and it launched just fine.

After installing the common route patch, Siglus Engine crashes when I launch it.

Any clue?

>>9147905

At least FHA script size is over two times smaller. At such pace they won't finish translating it even in 10 years.

>>9147970
Haven't tried to play the game myself but Ixrec posted this updated fix earlier today. Should fix the problem.
http://www.mediafire.com/?n9e6oc9wl7rpocg

>Princess Maker 5- 44% translated
I still have hope...
Is it wrong to still have hope?

The Kimiaru guy updated his forumsaying he expects to translate 25 lines a day

Warm and fuzzy feeling general.

>>9148028
Was this the /jp/ one? Or it was at least announced here.

From about two years ago?

>>9148017
Thank ya. Why isn't it on the website though?

>>9148080
Was posted on his twitter. Plans to incorporate it into the next patch.

>Ikusa Megami Zero - Project alive again, 5205 lines translated
Is there any reason for me to believe someone is actually translating this?

>>9147876

It was never alive to begin with.

>>9147952
Weekly drama dose.

I demand it.

>Rance 6 - teaser patch out, 4570/104155 (4.39%) lines translated
Isn't nearly 5% in 2 weeks a little fast?

>>9148255
Isn't a better for you autists to stop freaking out over how much numerical progress happens each week and be more concerned with the quality of the project?

>>9148255
It's still slower than a handful of other translators.

comparing 5% of one game to 5% of another is meaningless because of widely varying lengths... it's impossible to comment on speed without KB numbers

>>9147876
looks we will never have our twincest being treated with dignity...

>>9148255
If he keeps the current rate, it will take him an entire year to finish.
So no, it's not unbelievably fast. It's just that we're so used to 0.2% a week projects that we can't see it.

Togayinu got a real nice update:

>Files Translated:
>Total: 191/191

>Files Edited:
>Total: 155/191

>Files Completed:
>Total: 134/191

>>9147836

You forgot Hadaka Shitsuji this week. It's at 48.59% as of today.

>>9149324
Except that is exactly what the first post says.

>>9149368

Woah, my bad, page load error must've cut it off.

Why keep replaying KS over and over when there are so many other good VNs to choose from?

http://www.mediafire.com/?w73ab83ah36t5h6

There's /vn/'s official recommendation chart, I'm sure you'll find something for you there.

>>9149578
Where do you think you are?

>>9149582
Yeah yeah, I goofed, I feel just ever so embarrassed now.

But it's just so sad these individuals left in KSG replaying their game over and over while refusing to try any other VN. I just want to help them...

KNNWSNY - almost everything is done and we have an eval build to test now.

>>9149764
And let the shitstorm begin. Here, I'll start.
>When voice playback, adjusts automatically volume of BGM
>Wide Mode Configuration
>Decides behaviour of wide screen when full screen
>Invoke save screen
>Invoke system screen

Can't even make a configuration screen look like anybody who can actually speak English had any part in it, can we?

>>9149764
In Soviet Russia, mouse does not have right button. Only sub button. Made of hard Russian turnip.

Downloaded Little Busters! but I can't apply the english patch to it - it asks for for a destination folder but it won't accept anything.

I think it has to do with original game I downloaded. It's the 4GB ISO that you had to get the noDVD thing for. I don't know what the fuck to do with it; any help would be appreciated

Is there an english patch for Happiness?

>>9149819
/vn/ on /vg/ would probably be more helpful, people here are mostly just interested in talking about translation projects than anything to do with VNs already released, tech support stuff included.

You pointed it to your LB install folder, I assume? Both installers run in Japanese locale (not AppLocale) and as administrator if you're on Vista/7? If you already applied the nodvd I'd suggest reinstalling and installing the English patch first.

>>9149833
Not according to VNDB.

Next time just search VNDB, they keep up info on such things.

Damn font issues again...

>>9149845
I think it looks cool that way. Keep it like that.

>>9149846
It's hard to read, which goes well with the translation.

>>9149787
I've mentioned this before, the translator is not native English.

>>9149816
<---

>>9149845
Yoda and Google Translate would be proud of you.

>>9149831
think I just fucked it all up - I'm gonna restart from scratch with a different torrent

I pointed it to the LB folder, but I scoured through the whole thing and couldn't find the install folder - none of the folders are in moonrunes except one, and the only thing in that is the opening

thanks for the response

>>9149867
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sub+click

>I've mentioned this before, the translator is not native English.
You mean you? Yes, we know. Neither is Takajun. But note how he's literate when he translates? You should strive for the same.

>>9149867
"Right click" has a well-defined meaning and is widely used in user interfaces because it's immediately obvious what it means. Changing it to "sub click" is pointlessly confusing because no one uses that terminology (except for you, apparently).

I know, it's meaningless nitpicking when the rest of the patch is as atrocious as it is.

Also, not being a native English speaker is not an excuse.

>>9149867
Protip: attempting to defend retarded mistakes does not make you look any smarter.

Quite the opposite: it makes you look like a complete moron.

>>9149845
Wouldn't this sound better, the english in yours is just a little awkward.

On saying that, Maria stands up while slowly gazing at the bookshelf.

The expression on her face from the side seemed to be partly curiosity and partly a little bit malicious.

A face that Maria puts on sometimes, like a mischievous child.

>>9149881
What do you mean "You mean you?" ? It's not hard to figure out what that's for if you have a brain. Secondary button, M3, sub-click, whatever.

[I think it was named the same in FH too.]

>>9149911
He has it as sub click because that is literally the terminology Japan uses for it. "Secondary mouse button."

>>9149948
So it doesn't bother you at all that nobody in the entire English speaking world uses that terminology. All right, Cud-tan. You keep revolutionizing the language for us plebes.

Cudder is a well known shitposter who knows how to disguise his shitposts.

Just ignore him.

>>9149948
Fucking might as well come up with new words for "menu" "sound" "graphics" while you are at it!

Keep it up translator! they are hard to understand and don't give the full meanting!

Graphics should be "Drawings".
Sound should be "Noise"
Menu can be "Stuff"

There 100% improved cudder translations!

>>9149764
I, for one, am really excited for this to come out. Not because I want to read it, but because maybe then Cudder will go away for a while.

Not likely, but let me hope.

>>9149974
People said the same about Ixrec when he was translating MOON.

>>9149974
Are you kidding? He kept bumping Flyable Heart threads after its release for two months. Almost every single non-sage post in it was "I'm enjoying this and you haters can't stop me." Even Hongfire laughed at how bad it was. HONGFIRE.

Cudder, why don't you do something worthwhile with your hacking? Like put the Muv Luv translations onto the All ages versions or make an English patch for Fortissimo with this guy's http://www.youtube.com/user/COMegamanexe translation?

>>9149985
Because that would require effort. People have yet to accept the glory of ReTrans Inc, so the spamming crusade must continue using preexisting tools until they do.

>>9149838
I checked there but I was not sure if they note down all patches or just recently/popular found patches.

Since happiness was released a while ago I was hoping there might some patch somewhere.

ah well I'll slowly work my way to fucking Jun.

>>9150001
It's publicly editable, so when patches are released they tend to be updated there pretty quickly. Even with old patches, since the number of VN translations is so small it's pretty likely it's been noted there.

>>9149983
But one million people downloaded it, so it must have been a masterpiece.

>>9149970
>>9149960
The translation leaks plenty of Japanese-ness as it is. Honourifics stuff, romanised names, etc.

>>9149945
Are you willing to edit the whole thing? Contact us. You'd probably want the original text too.

>>9149985
Contact us with your detailed requirements.

<-- I deal with stuff like this all the time. Probably makes me rather immune to weird English.

>>9150115
>no CPU on the motherboard
... Fuck, you made me laugh and spill my tea.

>>9150115
Any other time I'd say sure to the offer of editing the whole text but I'm a bit busy and suppose your team would want it to be edited in time, I have a week or so with a lot of work to do so I don't think I will have time to sufficiently dedicate myself.

Hey guys, Ixrec here. I just thought I'd answer any questions about the recent Rewrite Common Route patch, or anything related to Amaterasu.

>>9150200
Why are you so BEST?

>>9150200
Why dont you quit?

>>9150200
Are there any plans to get the FVR version of Inganock and Sharnoth any time soon?

>>9150237
Why would I quit? Especially in the middle of a large project that would be sort of a dick move. But honestly, I enjoy translating, and I enjoy letting other people read titles that I liked. I don't see myself stopping any time soon, unless I find myself so bogged down with other obligations that I am no longer able to translate at an acceptable rate. I don't intend on ever quitting in the middle of a project, though. I feel I owe the people waiting on my translation at least that much.
>>9150245
Unfortunately not. We had our hacker look into it, but it wound up being far more work than he felt like doing for what is arguably a fairly small benefit. Personally I think that the voices that were important for the story are already included anyway, and the effect of having them start and stop lends them a certain weight that they lose if every line is voiced. So I'd hesitate to say that the FVR version is actually even superior. But again, it wasn't my call. I can't force someone to devote hours of their time to a task they have no interest in completing.

>>9150200
Thank you for your hard work, guys.

>>9150200
Can you prove that you are Ixrec?

Lxrec can you do Happiness?

>>9150268
What sort of proof did you have in mind?
>>9150275
Sure, I'll get right on it after I finish Twinkle Crusaders.

>>9150282
Post nude of sheeta.

>>9150286
How about if I just say something on IRC?

>>9150286
I assume you mean besides one of the many that have already been leaked out to everybody and their mother?

>>9150282
>Twinkle Crusaders

>>9150165
Although we're on the verge of a code freeze for the RTM, you don't need to work at that deadline. Anything that doesn't get done by then will go into SP1. Having something for KNNWSNY SP1 would match up nicely with the FHTRANS SP1 which is also going to involve more editing and minor bugfixes.

>>9150200
How's DracuRiot coming along? Any problems?

>>9150295
Saying something as Ixrec on ammy might work.

Still, nude of Sheeta would be preferred method.

>>9150282
I see that you didn't really like Suiheisen, so it'll likely remain dead/untranslated. I'd like to see your review of 失われた未来を求めて, if you have the time for it.

>>9150336
Alright, let me know when you're on there and I'll do so.

>>9150344
Already been there for a while, lurk there every so often.

>>9150200
Are there any plans to go back over Cross Channel's translation at any point (given how it was one of the earlier projects), or are you satisfied with that as it is?
Are there no plans to edit either of the Muv-Luv patches to work with the "All Ages" versions of Muv-Luv/Muv-Luv Alternative?
Is that fixed .exe released for the random crashes with Rewrite the one you'll be using for the final version, and is the Common Route translation fully edited or will parts of it likely change with any later releases? (What was it that caused those crashes, anyway? I'm curious because it never happened for me and my install has been working perfectly without needing the fix.)

And that's all I really have to ask. As always, thanks to you and the rest of Amaterasu for the great work and all that.

>>9150416
Probably at some point.
No.
Yes, unless we release another fix for some reason.

>>9150200
What's the story behind your nickname?

'sup Ixrec,

- Of their current titles, what Liarsoft game are you most likely to translate next/would you like to see someone else start a project on next?
- Any recent or upcoming games you're looking forward to playing?

which is the best heroine in Rewrite and why

also, recommend route order please.

>>9149845
Such a shit lack of ability, Cudder has.

>>9150476
Akane is best for several reasons, she also has the best route of the heroines.
I'd do Kotori->Chihaya->Shizuru->Lucia->Akane.
You must do Kotori's to unlock Akane I think and Chihaya's Shizuru. The first three I wrote are the weakest ones in my opinion.

Wtf? NNL Celebrating 10 years: Top ten "trolls" of all-time... Lol

http://www.nnl1.com/

>>9150494
that's nice NNL devs, but nobody cares.

>>9149859
>liquid n2 burn.gif

>>9150494
>Inserting funny (but still spirited) translations from time to time in humorous scenes was fun for us. Respecting the original work
Well, at least they didn't put "funny translations" and "respecting the original work" in one sentence. I especially like how they don't even mention butchering of Wind.

...that's better. Still a little blurry.

>>9150542

NO, FUCK OFF.

>>9150542
Are you ever going to fix the wordwrap?

>>9150542
>WINE
you working on linux?

>>9150556
Probably. I'm always having problems with fonts.

What is the name of that site where you can see the Japanese and English side by side I want to work on a translation of a visual novel privately.

>>9150566
You can do that with even Notepad++ if you want to.

>>9150566
Did you mean http://translate.google.com/toolkit/ ?

>>9150572
That is perfect thanks.

>>9150552
That'll be done once we figure out the optimum font size, using the final text with the real names.

>>9150556 >>9150560
Yes. Everything else is much easier, however.

>>9150566
RWI? Contact us and we'll set up you.

>>9150607
That's a horrible translation. I guess it's someone with no knowledge of the language tidying up a machine translation?

This is not nice at all.
you can't just some vaguely similar word taken from a dictionary I don't give a fuck if the translator is native, if they can't use the appropriate english terms then it is rather fucking pointless.

>>9150641
I have no idea what the translator was, that was part of an import from TLwiki.

Ixrec, if you're still around, do you've any plans to work on Kusarihime? Or Sayonara wo Oshiete?

>>9150258
Hey Ixrec, thanks for all the work you've done.
I've been following since you started on Cross Channel and ever since I read it, I've been desperate to read Saihate no Ima. So if you ever do decide to quit, please don't do it before SnI!

Why don't we move these threads over to /vg/?

>>9150809
Because that's a retarded idea.

>>9150809
Here they can survive the whole week.

>>9150811
No it isn't. Their VN threads are already more active than ours.

>>9150809
because there doesn't seem to be any pressing need to do that
we're all comfortable having this thread here, why change that?

>>9150813
Exactly.
They're more active, we want it to survive the week here.

>>9150813
Last I checked their OP has the vntl status stolen from here anyway, so why would we move?

>>9150809
>to /vg/

N-no, thank you.

>>9150809
Why would you amputate the last leg of an amputee?

Where did Ixrec go...

>>9150989
He got stabbed in osaka.

>>9150491
>The first three I wrote are the weakest ones in my opinion.

Ehhh, but those are the three girls I like best so far ;_;

Does your opinion on route quality coincide with or go against your opinion on heroine ranking?

>>9151073
It's the opinion of anyone sane.
Kotori and Shizuru are 2 of my favorite heroines but their routes are shit

>>9150809
No thank you.
Why would anyone want to go to /vg/.
I am over with muv luv, maou, saya or what feel they are still talking about. They are like king of slowpoke that just found out these games after 3years.

>>9151091
Well a lot of them got into VNs recently because of the KS effect, or simply because they saw the VN thread and got curious.

>>9151084

Why do the girls I like always end up having the bad routes ;_;

>>9151097
Lucia is pretty interesting in her own route while Akane grows a lot on you in hers too, especially the ending.

>>9151091
It wouldn't be so annoying if there weren't so many fags who insist on posting screenshots and witty comments of what they're currently playing like every ten minutes. Holy shit you're playing what everyone else can play I don't need a newsletter about your playthrough dude.

>>9151132
What else they should talk about then?

>>9151151
There is a reason why we have no VN threads nowadays.
That is why I always laugh when people try to ask for a VN only board. Doesnt work unless japanese become a lingua franca language.

Guys, I recently read that it seems that someone is actually translating Subarashiki Hibi though the project is considered to be a secret. Is it really true? If it's true, what is the progress so far? Also, is it possible to also include in the list it's translation status? Thanks for the answer.

>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 80.9% translated, third partial patch out

This shit is getting fucking dooooooone

>>9151206
More than 30% of that is machine translation.

>>9151210
The best kind of translation

>>9151151
I'm just saying you can talk about the game you're playing without updating the thread like it's your twitter feed.

>>9151132
I don't mind if it's something I've already played, since it sort of lets me relive my own feelings at the time. That's why most of us tolerate it, I think.

It is annoying with new releases though, since I tend to be a slow reader so consistently see future events posted. But I guess that's not so different from your average VN thread, and at least they're usually pretty considerate with spoiler tags.

>>9151210
And where exactly is the figure "more than 30%" coming from? Not from BL, it seems. "Not verified" does not mean "was machine translation", you understand.

>>9151231
I'm of the opinion that it's at least slightly more appropriate to do so in /vn/ than in Homestuck threads, so it's fine.

Is there a updated version of this chart?
I realized it was old when Steins;Gate was still under the /jp/ section and not the translated section.

>>9151265
http://www.mediafire.com/?w73ab83ah36t5h6

That's /vn/'s chart.

>>9151270
This is much better, thank you.

Secrets isn't to be exposed

Fake Ixrec posts on vg and like, one person falls for it.

Fake Ixrec posts on jp and like half a dozen people fall for it.

Never thought jp would be more retarded than vg

>>9151307
More like no one even know who the fuck Ixrec is in vg.

>>9151312
/vn/'s composition seems to be something like 50% old /jp/ and /a/ users that have been reading VNs for a long time but don't know moon, 45% new readers that receive recommendations from and share their experiences with the first group, and 5% moonreaders who try to discuss untranslated stuff but the rest don't pay a whole lot of attention to them.

So a good portion of them are as knowledgable on the TL scene as we are. Hell, they link these threads in their own, so obviously some of them browse them.

In case you didn't get the memo, a dude from /vn/ is translating Majikoi S. Just the trial so far but he said he'd probably do the whole thing when he's done. Progress is reported at http://wairu.blogspot.com/

>>9151495
I had a look and it was just discussions about Hoshizora, What a beautiful world and other old stuff.

ie Discussions we had already.

All Grisaia common route scripts are now translated. I'll be taking a semi-break while reviewing old scripts, so don't expect translation progress for 1-2 weeks. Barring any technical obstacles demo should be out fairly soon.

First character route will be Amane. Currently no partial patches planned

>>9152451
>First character route will be Amane
If you do Amane first, better not release partials.

>>9152451
Take your time and thank you for your translation.
Do you have an estimate date for a full patch (I don't know how long each single route is)?

>>9152451
Looking forward to the completed patch. Keep up the good work.

>>9152451
I love you, Koestl.

>>9152451

Great work, take your time. We appreciate your swift and high quality translations.

How do you contact Cudder?

>>9152663
First you must pass the trial of the silver monkey.

>>9151707
>he'd probably do the whole thing when he's done

That would be great. You have my insignificant support, dear /jp/ anon.

>>9151707
Hopefully he does. Very few groups do fan disc translations, which is a crying shame.

We'll never see the Koihime fan disc translated.

>>9152748

Do be honest, most fandisc really aren't worth the effort.

>>9152451
What font is that?

>>9152823
That's because they're fandiscs, additional fan service which is nice.

>>9152953
Not the guy that posted that, but it looks like OsakaMono. Image for comparison.

I going start learning how to reverse engineer and program, I have do small things before like remove nags/serial code check from a simple php editor.

I want to be able to learn how to unpack visual novels (mostly eroges to be honest) and be able to insert text into them.

I also want to be able to hack better a psp game I'm working on, I can insert text but only within a limited space else it crashes.

If anyone has any small demo VN's/Eroges they want worked on then I can try and work on them of course that is if I can figure them out.

>>9154481
not same person but /prog/ /jp/, how does one go ahead and "learn" reverse engineering? Isn't it mainly analytical work?

I guess there are a handful of things you have to know though, like cryptography, and another handful of tools to work with. I have a small background in C, C++, Java and Python but I feel that's not really important when it comes to things like this.

In the end, I'm curious as to how one starts off a project like reverse engineering engines, after I start I think I can learn as I go, but I need a push in the right direction.

Maybe if I need a push in any direction I don't make the cut for work like this, but I just want to try and fail miserably if I am fated to do so. I can learn that way too.

>>9154591
Well you learn the basics of ASM code, learn how functions work and programming basics such as if, for ,while, case loops and how functions use system dlls .. etc.
There are a number reverse engineering tutorials out there that aren't specific to visual novels but cover typically things like nags, timers and packers.

Visual novels tend to be the deep end since they often use packers and variety of encryption routines that need some experience working out.
Also you will need to know how to program to write your own unpacker and patchers.

The best way is to pick up something small or something already done, I recall a cross channel tutorial somewhere that goes through the process of how they hacked it.

>>9152663
The email field is not only for entering "sage", did you know that?

>>9154481
>>9154591
Cryptography is actually not too significant in VN work. If you want to learn RE, the best place to start is at the bottom. Read something like http://www.amazon.com/Code-Language-Computer-Hardware-Software/dp/0735611319 to get an understanding of how the whole SW/HW stack fits together. With the exception of C/C++ and Asm, prior language knowledge (especially high-level ones) won't be very applicable except for one thing --- if you've written something in a compiled language before, disassemble the binary and try to mentally decompile it back to it ssource; the correspondence between machine instructions and source statements is the important part.

>>9154620
The majority of the "tutorials" out there are not really useful for gaining any sort of deep understanding. They're just "do X; do Y; do Z;" for a very particular circumstance. But except for that, read all the documentation you can. Intel processor manuals, file format documentation like DOC(X), PDF, PNG, SWF (even though it is unlikely you will encounter PDF in VN engines, the idea is to gain an understanding of how file formats store information and how to write your own documentation.

As for which engines to start working with: try something older (mid 90s), they tend to be less complicated and smaller. Another alternative is to take something that's open-source like ONScripter and approach it like it wasn't.

I don't have a great deal of time but if you contact me with any specific questions on this subject I will try to answer them.

>>9154797
>The email field is not only for entering "sage", did you know that?

No, I know about noko too. What's your point?

Fuck you Cudder.

Fuck you Cudder
Fuck, you Cudder
Fuck you, Cudder
Cudder, you fuck?
Cudder you? Fuck.
You fuck Cudder?
You? Fuck Cudder.
You fuck? Cudder!

>>9154960
Bored sperglord? play that drill remilia game.

>>9154965
http://www27113u.sakura.ne.jp/drilluna/drilluna1101.swf

>Rewrite - 38732.7/101220 (38.27%) lines translated, common route patch out

I can't love Ixrec any more than I do right now. Let's make this moment last forever.

>>9154960
You missed "Cudder, fuck you"

>>9154960
You Cudder? Fuck!

Thread goes fine... and suddenly! a cuder! Thread is shit now.

>>9154591
While VN hacking guide linked to at http://vn.i-forge.net/tools/ isn't extremely useful in a real life, it's aimed at novices and gives some idea of how it's done. Author (not me BTW) is willing to answer the related questions too.

>>9154481
Read "So You Want To Be a Hacker?" series of articles at sekai.insani.org (it's down, so use web archive), it's what >>9154620 meant by "cross channel tutorial".
http://web.archive.org/web/20080910044341/http://sekai.insani.org/ and so on.

Rewrite girls tier list:
Brotori tier:
Kotori

Why is her standing sprite so beautiful tier:
Akane

So cute I want to have sex with her tier:
Shizuru

Oh look it's this character archetype again/I can't believe she's not voiced by Kawasumi Ayako tier:
Lucia

Cherry tier:
Chihaya

Why are VNs so expensive?

>>9156264
Niche market. Higher price point needed to turn a profit.

>>9156260
Awesome route tier:
Akane

Good route tier:
Lucia

Shit route:
Kotori
Chihaya

WHY route tier
Shizuru

Question, what do you guys think, make good VNs? What might be a certain thing lacking in a VN you didn't enjoy that might have made it better?

>>9156875

Yes, leave the VN thread on the board that talks about VNs to go to a video game board.. that doesn't talk about VNs. This makes sense

Fucking slavs

>>9156894
Well /vg/ does have a constant VN thread too, but that guy was still an idiot.

Western and translated visual novels go to /vg/
Japanese visual novels and Light novels go to /jp/

That are the rules.
That doesn't mean that /jp/ must devoid of translated VNs and neither does it mean that /vg/ must be devoid of Japanese language VNs.

Please keep your autism in check, sperglords please leave.

>>9157099
Those weren't the rules.
The rules were
>japanese in /jp/
>western in /vg/
>translated are fair play

>>9157099

We're on /jp/, jerkface. YOU leave.

>>9157105
I was saying this to the fucking idiot who was redirecting to /vg/
shut your face you stupid idiot.

>>9157099
No. Moot's stance on the matter was that translated VNs can go in either, with OELVNs being the only ones that are /vg/ specific.

These days people talk about untranslated stuff too sometimes in /vn/, and nobody really minds that much.

>>9157104
/jp/ is Japanese visual and light novels. Western visual novels should be posted to /vg/, and translated visual novels are fine on either board.

Austism plz leave.

>>9157135

No, YOU leave.

>>9154620
>>9156227
>>9154797
Thanks, I'll take it into consideration and check out that article at insani. I think I read it back when that site was online, but I was much less educated back then...

I've only done some ASM in C, but I think I need to get familiarized more with Windows and things like DLLs in particular.

> Mechanical and electrical representations of words and numbers, number systems, logic gates, performing mathematical operations with logic gates, microprocessors, machine code, memory and programming languages
I'm a third year in Systems Engineering, so I do know a bit of how computers work, but my country and education are shit (using retardedly outdated compilers like Borland, I had to rebel a bit and started with GCC myself) so most of the useful things I learn are by my own volition. I think I know all of this already but will give it a glance.

> The email field is not only for entering "sage", did you know that?
Why bump the thread? My post wasn't (and isn't) of true relevance to the main topic. I'm not working on a specific VN atm, even though I want to. Whenever I sage, that is the meaning I try to get across. Doesn't stop shitposters from bumping it with inane comments but I know my post isn't the one doing it.

>>9157188
Fucking hell he was saying his fucking e-mail is in the e-mail fucking field and isn't a sage for the person who was retardly wanting to contact him.

God fucking damn stop being fucking autistic or you will never be able to fucking reverse engineer shit... unless you are some fucking abomination like cudder who has some intelligence but is undeniablely autistic.

>>9157209
I just realized, sorry for not keeping my autism in check while browsing /jp/. It slips.

>>9157135

Considering all I did was ask a question about VNs as a whole, as a medium in general. In a VN thread on /jp/, a board that likes VNs. I wonder how this applies to me at all.

Hey guys. We're just getting started with poking around the PSP version now that most of our technical problems solved or disabled within this short amount of time and as you can it, we've been able to port most of our hacks to it and it has the same scripts as the Ebikore+ version on the PS2. While there might some minimal porting involved, we will need more time to find a deswizzler for the images and for editing the images.

My question is that should I release a PSP version along with the planned support for both PS2 editions, even if we're not going to be able to have time for us to let it reach the same parity as the the other two versions of the game? This would include not having a menu translation and the GUI will have to stay very much Japanese. I would appreciate your feedback very much, /jp/.

>>9157508

Forgot picture.

>>9157508

I think it's better with the menu/GUI translated.

>>9157508
If you have the ability to do it, and the will to do it, why not? Even if you can't tl the menu/GUI, anyone who wants to play the game and has a semblance of logic can trial-and-error the menus and/or look for the menu translations themselves. Alternatively you could just translate an external picture not included in the patch, hosted somewhere for those too lazy.

>>9157525

Main point is that most likely, we will not be able to do it with the projected deadline of July 2nd. So if we release it, I dunno if people would like to see it if it was missing parity in terms of progress in comparision to the PS2 versions.

>>9157540

The thing is we might not have enough time, as stated above. Also, I don't know if the demand is there for people to appreciate it.

>>9157593
You shouldn't worry about demand. If you want to do it, do it. At least that is my viewpoint.

I have both a modded PS2 and PSP, but I'd play a PSP version due to its mobility even if it didn't have tled menus and GUI.

I'd still wait if it isn't released in conjunction with the PS2 version, though.

>>9157593
If you are willing, please do. I would love to be able to play it on my PSP. I don't worry much about untranslated UI stuff, that's easy enough to figure out.

>>9157624

Then i guess we'll try and see what we can do then.

Also, I would suggest really to play the PS2 version, the scaling in the PSP version is less than ideal...

>>9157633

Alright then. If you guys don't really have complaints about playing the PSP version like that...

Again, you can use PCSX2 to play the PS2 versions if you wish but that's really up to you.

I imagine the PS2 version would be easier for people to play? Most people seem to have already fiddled with PS2 emulators whilst only a few have used PSP emulators, mainly for stuff like Fate/Zero.

I'm one of those people who has a SwapMagic PS2 and a custom firmware PSP so I don't mind either way, although I imagine Amagami wasn't redrawn for widescreen on the PSP...

>>9157740
No, it wasn't redrawn, but it still looks decent enough IMO. To me, the portability factor makes up for it.

>>9157508
Quality > quantity, go for polished PS2-only release instead of two half-assed ones.
I'd even skip PSP demo entirely and go for polished simultaneous release of the full game for PS2 and PSP, in addition to milestone releases for PS2 ("milestone" = "common route", "N days" or whatever Amagami can be split into).
I can only run this on emulators, and PS2 quality > PSP quality.

any idea on what Aroducs secret project is

>>9158112
門を守るお仕事

but doesn't the PSP version of Amagami have more routes?Naturally that would be the better version,plus it's portable.But I will support whatever you guys preffer to do,just the fact that we might see it translated already is a major deal.

The Period translator is really chugging away at the last few percent, 97.73% now.

Never7 is completely through initial translation + editing.

The Period translator is also chugging away at the last few percent, 97.73% now.

>>9159163
>but doesn't the PSP version of Amagami have more routes?
nope, it just has a mahjong minigame. Possibly a couple new CGs I'm not sure, but no new routes.

>>9154954
>>9154960
To paraphrase a well-known quote, "There are only two kinds of people: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody knows."

>>9157188
>using retardedly outdated compilers like Borland
Your education is to familiarise yourself with the principles. The basic principles like conditional flow and loops have not changed; if you've understood them, you should have little difficulty with ANY system. To give a concrete example, recognising a loop in 50s mainframe code should not be any harder than one in an x86 or x64 application today, or in a PSP/PS2/etc. binary. [BCPP/BCC was quite popular in the 90s, so you might come across a VN engine compiled using it too; as I mentioned above, older compilers have simpler output.]

>Why bump the thread? My post wasn't (and isn't) of true relevance to the main topic. I'm not working on a specific VN atm, even though I want to. Whenever I sage, that is the meaning I try to get across.
I know about the "meaning", but the reality is different; sage has more effects than that, and if you don't bump a good thread it will fall off the end precisely because of the "shitposters" bumping their contentless threads. The ones complaining about the quality of /jp/ and continuing to be passive and yielding aren't going to do anything. If you want a more interesting discussion YOU have to make it happen.

>>9157510
A wider font with decreased line spacing would be better than a narrower font and what looks like double spacing.

>>9160903
are you sure?I heard they add some routes like the one with his teacher

>>9161397
>本編内容は、極一部のイベントなどを除いてオリジナル版と同一だが、
プレイの利便性を向上させるための一部改良が施されている。
there's a scant few new events but no new routes/capturable characters
I checked when it came out because I was interested in this too

Why are Cudder's posts always so entertaining to read?

Speaking of fandiscs, the guy working on Hoshimemo Eternal Heart needs some assistance, namely:
>Disable name
>Disable 「」 <<-- the goddamn brackets
>Disable spacing between each line.

http://forums.novelnews.net/showthread.php?t=36066

By the way, did anyone read his translation? Does it resemble the original?

>>9161397

Those are the Tech Gigan fandisks, which we might translate, pending if the translators are willing. They're all done in Kirkkiri 2 so it should be relatively easy to do with the tools we have.


In any case, I appreciate all of your feedback.

>>9160873
so will we see it by next week?
cant waiut for it and also then they can get started on I/0.

>>9160873
does the never 7 guy have a blog or something? I never have seen his website..

>>9163578
http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=Never_7

>>9157508
I'd be very happy with PSP translations; I also have a PS2 but I think the English PSP VN scene is very lacking, while there are a tons of PSP VNs out there untranslated. I'd say go for it.

Is school days coming out soon?

>>9164091
End of the month.

>>9157508
Sure, VNs on PSP sounds great

>>9158131
>門を守るお仕事
Well, the first letter appears to be one of those tanks from TRON. It must be a clue!
...
Or not.

>>9161884
The fuck?

Hmm. Should I help out...? I'll keep an eye on this, just in case...

>>9161884
Fuck, Message has appeared. That project is now cursed.

>>9157508
PLEASE do so.

<--- How's the font?

>>9161884
>.docx
That's even worse than .doc. But going by what he says about it being a table, CSV would be the ideal format to use here.

>>9165784
>CSV
It begins

This is the second style of font that will be offered as an option.

Do you like this or >>9165784 more? If there's a unanimous loathing of one style we'll consider something else in its place.

>>9165799
The translator wanted to use a tabular format. It's the same as RWI (>>9150607) except he's reversed the two sides. [In case you're wondering, we haven't had any previous affiliation with this translator either.]

>>9165930
I think >>9165784 is better, it's more 'readable'

>>9165784
>>9165930
Reading that actually makes me want to cry.

>>9165930
Better font. I like it. but who ever wrote that does not have any ability at story writing at all, it horrible, a real butchering of the story.

>>9165930
The second is better&#822; less bad. The background is already dark and relatively uniform, black outline only adds even more contrast.
However, I have more problems with vertical and (especially) horizontal spacing.

>>9165930
The second is better^H^H^H^H^H^H less bad. The background is already dark and relatively uniform, black outline only adds even more contrast.
However, I have more problems with vertical and (especially) horizontal spacing.

>>9166932
>^H^H^H^H^H^H
The fuck is happening here.

>>9165930
The second is less bad. The background is already dark and relatively uniform, black outline only adds even more contrast.
However, I have more problems with vertical and (especially) horizontal spacing.

>>9166933
Nevermind, markup fuckup.

Hinomaru Common Arc released.
http://tengutranslations.wordpress.com/2012/06/13/hinomaru-common-arc/

>>9167041
Huh... Never heard of that project before. Is this the first announcement they've made, or did I just miss noticing it so far?

>>9165784
Putting aside the translation, I like the first style of font more, looks cleaner to me.

>Eric Hitchcock ‏@Ixrec
>For those of you worried about Baldr Sky, we have reestablished contact with Futsuu. He cited internet downtime and debilitating heat.
>(also laziness, but we're going to start nagging him from now on)
>And he just fixed the Baldr Sky stats too, so they finally mean something again.

>>9169701
wow so all these weeks he was doing nothing.
Why do i have a feeling it will never get done.

>>9169732
Either way we have Ixrec as a backup if Futsuu gives up.

>>9169940
he could of been done with the whole first game by now..
I hope he starts to pick it up now that Ixrec is on his ass.

>>9170053
Well either way he would have finished Rewrite first. He implied heavily that Baldr Sky was his next project after Rewrite, so I imagine that if Futsuu isn't making adequate progress by the time he's done (and has taken his obligatory month or two break in between projects) he'll grab it up himself.

>>9170053
Considering how fast his progress was at first, I don't think it's entirely fair to expect him to maintain that pace long-term. Though it would be great if he could.

>>9170079
yeah but its been like 2 months and a couple of weeks since he actually had that decent progresses rate. maybe he well get faster now, well see this week.

>Majikoi- Yukie + Chris + Momoyo + Wanko + teacher route patch released, Miyako route 40% translated
;_; at that speed i won't get delicious miyako until years from now.

>>9170118
Should i read this now or wait for that last route to be done?
Also man i dont get it, the translation scene is slow down completely even though its summer, that makes no sense.

So, in the VNTS twitter we have:
>Big project surprise cooked up in the coming weeks (or days). Look forward to the reveal!

What are your bets?

>>9165930
What the fuck is a mobile?

>>9170169
a portable telly phone

>>9170163
Well, JAST is expected to reveal Trample on Schatten at AX.

>>9170139
>Also man i dont get it, the translation scene is slow down completely even though its summer, that makes no sense.

A lot of translators are successful borderline normals. What do you think normals do when it is summer outside?

>>9170163
Could it be a actual read deal game and not shit?
What game has the highest chance if it being?

>>9170206
but shouldn't it be faster than when they have school?
I mean im disappointed at how its been going at a snails pace lately. ive been waiting for the summer vn explosion all year...

>>9170241
>real deal
>not shit

>>9170200
It's probably this. Or maybe the super-secret Subahibi project will finally be revealed.

Don't crush my dreams. ;_;

>>9170270
Could it be the vn that came before kara no shojou? thats fully translated right?

>>9170339
Oh im talking about Cartagra ~Tsuki kurui no Yamai~, and i was sure it was fully translated by jast but just not released, i really hope thats is. I need something good to read.

how big of a game is Grisaia no Kajitsu/what percent could it be at considering the common route is done? will it be done this summer?

Should i read steins gate now or wait for the better translation? was the translation really bad?

>>9170369
According to their blog there are a common route patch before the end of this month
http://www.doddlercon.com/main/

>>9170415
how long as this translation been going on for? i didn't even noticed this one, what is this vn really about? I checked vndb but the description really didn't explain it well. is it considered and good?

>>9170354
They need to fucking release Cartagra already. It's been translated for ages.

>>9170442
I know its fucking bullshit, i loved kara no shojou and really want to read his other works. If its 100% why haven't they released it yet?

>>9170451
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

>>9170462
in this "industry" it's really more like ¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢¢

>>9170462
If they wont even release it, why did they stanch it from us when it was fucking complete like a bunch of assholes.

>>9170442
Perhaps negotiation with Innocent Grey isn't going well ?

>>9170401
The old translation is fine. The editing is slightly wonky in places but it's perfectly readable.

Exactly 50/50 split between the two choices. That confirms my premonition that it's a good idea to make it a user option.

>>9166938
The spacing is taken directly from the font used. I think it's a little too wide but there's not much we can do about that in time for a release... at least it's better than >>9157510 but not as good as >>9152451. (If anyone knows how to get the latter, do say. All the OsakaMono fonts I could find don't look exactly like that, and either way we're not going to ship a 2MB+ font that doesn't have a free license.)

>>9170169
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mobile_phone
This is the UK version. The US version uses "cellphone" instead.

>>9172065
The font is OsakaMono. The game's engine just adds some effects

>>9172065
There are some places that use "handphone" too.

/vg/ needs a Cudder General

>>9174868
Whatever it is we can't use it due to the license and size (and the fact that 99% of the glyphs in it are useless for this application.) The engine does either offset or outline but >>9152451 looks like both. We'll work on trying that out.

>>9174889
Not enough reach.

>>9176121
Maybe that would be useful when we have the ability to release one translated VN every few weeks or so, but working 24/7 on R&D that sort of ability is probably at least a decade away. This is a spare-time thing.

I think Cudder has good intentions and you guys give him way less credit than he deserves.

Cudder 2012

>>9177513
I think Cudder is pure evil and people go too soft on him.

>>9177513
That doesn't change the fact that he is a clown.
And I do respect him for making me fall outta my chair everytime he posts.

>>9176652
>can't use it due to the license
>worries about license
>hacks games which breaches just about any license that exists

>>9177644
That's fair use.

>>9177657
Forgot your trip, Cudder.

>>9177662
I'm not Cudder. I just think that for all the work she puts in for you guys, you could be a bit more appreciative.

>>9177513
point is, those "good intentions" going in a way wrong direction.

>>9170339
>>9170354
>>9170442
>>9170451
>>9170546
>>9170566
Come on, it's been this long and nobody even corrected the obvious problem? What happened to /jp/? I haven't kept up much lately, but sheesh.

Cartagra was fan translated by the same guy who also did Kara no Shoujo. They got C&D'd and after some negotiations the Kara no Shoujo project went official with MangaGamer. MangaGamer eventually released Kara no Shoujo, but there's no word on Cartagra yet. JAST is completely unrelated to this matter.

>>9177678
"all the work" produced 1 crappily translated VN and some misc crap, no self respecting translator/translator group want to use cuders crap, constant shitposting in weeekly VN thread is annoying.

>>9177725
Progress updates are not shitposting. The ones shitposting are you assholes who get in her face whenever she posts anything and ensure that every legitimate Cudder post is met with 20 shit posts by faggots like you.

>>9177734
nice one cuder, what's why everyone hates you.

>>9177740
I already told you, I'm not Cudder. But even if you dislike Cudder, you have to admit that it's not productive to start a big debate every time she posts about anything at all. If you just ignored her posts rather than shitposting every time then it wouldn't be a problem.

>>9177747
nice one cuder(or its shill), what's why everyone hates you.

>>9177747
Progress updates done by "VNTS", cuder just shitposting.

>>9177759
>>9177763
Stop posting while you're drunk.

>>9177759
>>9177763
Okay, but Cudder herself only made like five posts, and you all assholes are responsible for another forty. And you have the audacity to call her the shitposter? You're retarded as fuck! Even if she was a shitposter (which she isn't) why would you reply like this? Fuck, man, even /vg/ understands that you don't feed the shitposters like that. You're slipping, /jp/.

>>9177784
and yet another ship poster born.

>>9177792
Every post replying to a shit poster is also a shit post.

You are also a shit poster.

>progress updates
This reminds me of that Milky Holmes spam where Cudder got "accidentally" permabanned after 3 months of forcing her >Files added/Files updated bullshit.

>>9177784
If that isn't shitposting...

>>I have a free Sunday afternoon to spend. Besides, it's fun to watch trolls try to prove things wrong. (by Cudder )

>>9177766
But then I'd never end up posting!

Grisaia has a TLWiki page, and Moogy is working on Subahibi

>>9179036
>Moogy is working on Subahibi
>Project on indefinite hiatus. I've realized that I respect SCA自氏 too much to work on this for the time being. If I ever pick it back up, it will be with his acknowledgement and cooperation.

>>9179036
If by "working on" you mean tl'ing a few lines here and there and leaving the vast majority of the work to other people but taking credit for it anyway, then yeah, he's working on it.

>>9179036
>Grisaia has a TLWiki page
I have a bad feeling about this.

>>9179328
Lots of TLwiki projects turned out just fine.

>>9179698
But the others were stalled or dropped. Discontinued projects are more or less than completed projects. It's about 50:50. Hope Subahibi and Grisaia proceed smoothly

>>9179328
nothing in the project's workflow is changing in any way, so that's kind of silly on your part, but whatever

Cudders gonna Cud.

>Grisaia on TLwiki
>Moogy as moral support

oh, I laughed so hard